@@derekg5674 Yeah, if by knows you mean dosnt know. Its not the impact hammer that i was confused by, i mean it really shouldnt break from it, its the fact he turned it on without realizing he just loosened the other side, if it actually broke in half there could have been some catastrophic failure there.
I just went straight to the source of the problem and got unmarried. You start noticing a lot of problems that you had before start vanishing. "I can do this now." "I'm just gonna leave and not have to tell anybody where or when I'll be home." I can take extra time... all the time I want to do anything and not have it be such a buzzkill if I don't finish in time. Actually, I don't even know what that feels like anymore because I don't ask myself how long is this going to take me. I'm done when I'm done. I don't have to argue. I don't feel like a disappointment because I realized I'm not. I was disappointed. I'm not advocating divorce. I'm just saying it's so much better than being married.
@@ohms5054 Sounds like you just had a bad marriage. No offense. I've been in the same relationship for 10 years and marriage for 4 of them. Also "not have to tell anybody where or when I'll be home" sounds more like *nobody cares if I'm gone* which is kinda sad mostly. Hope you can find a relationship or person more suited to you though in the future.
@@Dangerpurple I was in the same relationship from 21 until 32 years , married for two. She was a good person and I may be exaggerating. For some reasons, marriage changed things. I'm just glad we didn't have kids to put through that. I had immediately jumped into another relationship for four years, bought a house, got engaged, she comes home and doesn't think she loves me anymore. Oh well. Single for the first time in my life for the past few years has helped me break out of autopilot mode. I'm glad for you though. Some marriages just work out better than others. It's not that they don't care that you're gone, you just haven't given them reason to worry. I wish you and your family the best.
Not witchcraft. The threads on the left side of a bench grinder are reverse. when you used the impact gun on the wire wheel the mass of the grinding wheel wanted to stay still and the friction between it and the nut and washer was enough to loosen the nut when the torque hit the shaft. The threads are reversed on the left side so they will self tighten. That is why the problem resolved itself when you turned the motor on.
My thoughts exactly. Who ever wired a 3 phase grinder wrong knew that right away when in the best case scenario had to retighten the nuts rather than pickup grinding wheel pieces from the floor
this also has a benefit of ensuring that the nut isn't over-torqued (in my experience last time I changed a stone). Those loose/flappy gloved fingers really shouldn't be anywhere near that wheel...
A drill pres is the third item needed as a minimum of three items for a small shop. By way, HF offers the same grinder but with shields for 19.00 USD cheaper. love your videos. I don't comment much on any of them because they are good. Thanks for the good videos.
"The right tool for the right job". If you spend 50 hours a week working metals and making a living from your trade, the Baldor is worth every penny and it will pay for itself over and over. If your a handy homeowner who needs to grind and sharpen and remove some rust once and a while, the WEN should last you a life time with a little care.
I'd say drill press. The main things people will be doing is cutting a material or putting holes in a material. you have the vice to secure the item to cut, you have the grinder to clean up the things you cut so logically the only thing left is to put holes in things. Yes you can use a hand held drill but a drill press is so much easier to use over all. or a big old box of loctite and hair pieces
My first cheap bench grinder was a dual shaft motor from an old washing machine and two arbor adapters from Sears. No switch, just a plug in power cord. No tool rest or shields, just open grind rock and wire brush. I used that grinder for years, until I could afford a store bought one. I leader end safety and how to make things work the hard way. A lot has changed since those days.
Funny I see this comment. Me and my father did the same thing last year to clean some large bolts and sharpen chisels. At the time it seemed perfect, but when I finally got a real grinder I quickly realized the danger I was playing with when using that ole washer motor. No guards, no lights, no covers. BUT, you can't beat those old days with your pops in the garage making things. Wouldn't trade those days for anything in this life.
I would put a small neodymium magnet on the underside of the tool rest to catch those loose wires. For a third tool, I would guess either a drill press or a miter box.
I hope that's part if the video series. Im desperately trying to get a small shed rebuilt into a small shop starting with the bench and this design is far better than mine.
I thought about it for a while and I have a bench grinder and a vise and when I buy or build a better and larger bench I will get a small drill press that can run at least 3000rpm. So a drill press is my guess.
Just a quick bench Comment, I mount my bench grinders on a 2 x 4 that way I can set them in any vice in my shop that I choose, And not using up any permanent bench space.
years ago I had an antique grinder, actually fit a kanoe seat swivel under it, with like a hundred ball bearings. Used valve springs to make the depth top side adjustable and a small cabinet door lock with holes at various favorite positions. Left it behind for the next tenant it was so well excuted.
I lucked out and found a returned Delta 8" variable speed bench grinder at Lowes for $39.00. The paint was chipped in a few spots on the cast iron base.
My takeaway: don't judge others unless you walk in their shoes. I like that. You're right. For some people, a full line of Ryobi tools will be all they need. Sure, they're not Snap-on, Hilti, etc. but not everyone needs that. Thanks, Cody.
I have a lot of Ryobi tools and have been completely satisfied with all of them. I’m your average DIY’er and those tools have serviced me well. I find that people who bad mouth Ryobi are just doing so to justify spending Tool Truck prices for their choice.
I have a Wolf brand drill press, you can remove the drill for use separately. I'd say it's '70's maybe '60's judging how I got it. The rubber starting to perish however it works like a treat. I say starting as these things were maid to be repaired. I need a bench grinder. Thanks for the video.
Put the spacer outside of the large washers. Large washer, then wire wheel, then the other large washer, then the spacer then the nut. That will give you proper thread contact and proper contact with the washers.
Dwarfracer88, I was thinking the same thing when I saw him do that. On my workbench in addition to my Baldor I had a 6" vice and a drilling/milling machine. Way better than a common drill press.
@@jonathanbetenbender307 But worth it. You can do so much more with a drilling/milling machine. IE: cut keyways in shafting, mill thicknesses to name a couple
I’m three years late but I wanted to reach through the screen and slap him for putting the spacer next to the wheel. I swear I just don’t understand how some people successfully survive in life without common sense the spacer and not understanding that the hut was loose on the other side had me shaking my head.
@@CDNBVR1 What do you mean by drilling/milling machine? Is this what most people call a milling machine? I am just getting going and was wondering why not to just get a milling machine instead of drill press because it seems like a mill would do both. Are there downsides? Thanks
Inertial..?? No... i got one.. one nut is reverse thread other is not.. when you tighten the one the other gonna loosen.. you gotta fanagle it to get em both tight.. he just loosened the nut on the stone when he used a damn gun to put the other nut on.. also your never supposed to use a gun on a bench grinder, especially the wheels.. ive cracked a stone by hand tightening.. on top of top the spacer should be put after the cupped washers because the outer washer would be putting a force around the spacer which was smaller than the washer.. needs equal pressure against both washers to keep centered.. the threads on cheaper grinders are cut different so if you put self centered washers on both sides they take up for the allignment issues of the. Nut...
I was thinking exactly the same. I changed a dozen grinding stones and stuff and I never ever used an impact driver. It wouldn't even cross my mind, but hey... everyone has his own methods ;)
@@SPECIALIZED95711 acting like a genius then what? Event if has settings, the basic setting or not, hearing the impact (hammer) is indicative of a strong force acting on a tightened nut Smoothly and gently indicate a sensitive hand feeling the nut cathing and no more, hope you get what other people are saying
@@SPECIALIZED95711 that is incorrect. Every impact tool does not have a torque setting. Impact drivers are just what their names are for, IMPACT! They hit like a hammer till tight. With or without a torque setting bro. Hits like a hammer. The internal parts shows why they hit like that and are called Impact Drivers. Just some quick info, not trying to insult anyone. And oh btw the manual does say do not tighten with an impact wrench.
I'm a machinist, and we have that exact Baldor. It is as reliable as the sun, which is what you need in a production environment. We also use DeWalt grinders, which deliver a great value for the money. The cheap ones just don't hold up - the proof of the pudding is in the tasting, I guess.
@@AS-ug2vq I have a baldor 7" grinder that I think is either 1/2 or 2/3hp and 3 phase. It was left in a business suite that I cleaned out and rehabbed after the tenant was evicted. Luckily, I took it and figured out what a variable frequency drive is and spent $150 to get a $700 grinder going. It is a great size for a home shop or small business and it is very powerful and smooth as silk. I figured it was broken when I saw they left it behind, but it turns out it was 3 phase, so maybe they thought it was only good in a commercial shop. The 120v version looks like it only pulls 4 amps which is 480 watts.
Same here. Im a heavy equipment operator for a demo company and we are constantly breaking buckets and grapples ect. We have a couple bench grinders but usually go with our big and ref Milwaukee angle grinders. The dewalts kept burning out on us. The key is try to find the highest amperage angle grinder if you’re running it hard and for long periods
The left wheel on the Baldor needs to be dressed with a wheel dresser. Instead of wearing gloves to prevent burning your hands when grinding, use vice-grips or pliers. The wheel can catch the glove and draw your hand or fingers into the grinder. You should replace the wheels when the wheel when it is approximately one-half the original diameter of the wheel. Keep the same face on the wheel as when it was original. Wearing the wheel unevenly can cause it to be unbalanced and disintegrate. Thanks for the tip on the Mora Chisel Knife.
I don't wear gloves with anything that spins; also on a table/circular saw you can feel when something is going wrong (something in the wood. pinching etc).. your literally cutting off a sense when you wear gloves. Also safety glasses always fog up, I've got a pair of goggles that fair well... point is I'm all about the face shield, if it's glasses I'll end up going without (I'm gonna get a face shield that's a bit more robust). Wanna get a leather apron eventually too (have a canvas one atm). Btw he said repeatedly that the wheel needs replaced, and mentioned in the video about dressing the wheel (even said he'd make a video on how to do it).
You loosened the nut on the grinding wheel side by using an impact driver. You might want to tighten that. Also, the spacer you put on should probably behind the other cup so that both cups are against the wire wheel.
Toffie47 you can hold the tight side and just snug the other side up then hold that side to finish tightening it. At least that’s what I’ve always done.
No heavy baggy clothes,huge gloves,big hanging chain, no glasses ever.. loose cool points and last u must wear sandles while grinding.. prooves your tough 😂
@@Eluderatnight I would laugh, but here is Dawn Machinery India and one of their videos where they pour a base for a planer... "Shoes? We don't need no stink'in shoes!" th-cam.com/video/JFJVdFGbHMA/w-d-xo.html
Eluderatnight lol I was poring aluminum and stepped on hot slag didn’t realize about a few minutes later I noticed my shoe getting really hot and when I realized what had happened immediately kicked them off there’s goes 100 dollars
You might not see This but Hi from the UK. England. I'm a DIY person on a budget I love that you have taken time out to us explain the differances with cheeper tools. And depends on what we're doing what I should buy..and pay . Big thank you xx
Great series of practical evaluations! Third thing in the shop is a drill press. For a machine shop --4th is a gas torch or if you are serious, a lathe then a metal band saw. For a woodworker -- 4th is a table saw then a jig saw then a table router, or wood lathe. For those that said "dancing hula girls" very impractical and distracting that is - but if you insist, they must wear safety glasses and I always made them remove their lose hula dresses (for safety)
"That doesn't inspire confidence" Lol! That was great! I would guess your grandpa had a bench top drill press, because he sounds like he was a logical man, and logical men, have drill presses. He also sounds like a logical man, who liked his work bench, so a bench top drill press would be the logical choice of drill presses. If not a drill press, he would've had a light of some sort. Thanks for the videos Mr. Wranglerstar!
I have my Dad's vintage Rockwell grinder from the 60's I believe. It's an old beast. I just built a table for it, cleaned it, gave it a new gray enamel paint, and new wheel and wire brush. She's a proud unit once again. And it has a light as well.
Thanks. I couldn't put my finger on it. Great song for a banjo cover. Made me like the song more because I realize it would sound at home hundreds of years ago.
What ever you do please make sure you have a shield or protective glasses on. A close family friend who was once an engineer for GM lost an eye because of a broken wire frome his bench grinder wire brush. His eye became infected atrophied and had to be removed.
"Unless you walk in a guys shoes, you really don't know what fits best for him"! Honestly one of the greatest statements I have ever heard and will ever hear! You Officially got my subscription. Well said.
Let me point out a couple of things: What happened when you impacted the wire wheel on, was that you loosened the nut on the opposite side. There is a left and a right hand thread so tightening one side with impact will loosen the other. The direction of the thread on either side results in rotation tightening the nut.... or rather it is to prevent rotation from loosening the nut. Any grinder will to this... but the very low inertial mass makes it more likely with the little one. Second. the printed horsepower rating means nothing at all on modern motors. To know the relative power you look at amps. They lie about horsepower on almost everything. A drill press of course is the next indispensable tool.... I own a floor stand drill press, two electromagnetic drill presses, and a light weight drill press stand that will take a half inch cordless or corded drill..................... I rarely use the latter, and use the floor stand drill virtually every day. I use hand held grinders far more than a bench grinder...
Yes! My 4 HP Craftsman air compressor has a 15 amp GE motor in it. GE, for obvious reasons, does not have the horsepower on the motor. I would believe the rating of a Baldor motor but not the HP rating of most electric tools. Fifteen amps at 115 VAC will get you 2.3 HP no matter how it's calculated.
Drill press ofcourse! Cannot go without! Would be nice to test these Drill jigs that hold drills upright, and definetely not the cheapest once (they will break just by looking at them) but the more pro stuff, really intrested if they would work
Thanks for sharing. A female like me who does not have anyone to help needs someone like you to show us how and what tools can work well. Appreciate it.
"that doesn't inspire confidence.." I LOVED that!! 😀 To be honest..I would spend the extra bread and buy a good heavy grinder with the strongest motor I could find! I did in 1972, and that big B**ch is STILL to strong to stall down with a mower blade or a tire iron!! I HAVE tried!Great grinder! I paid $285 1972 dollars for it..no regrets ever! I know a budget IS important..VERY. I'm simply saying brother that IF the money is there, or almost there..save a little more, and pay what you need to to buy a HD "quality product!" Thanks for the video pal..great job!!
I feel like the entire beginning of these videos is him trying to justify his more expensive purchase on the "better" tools until he tests them. 90% of people watching these videos are people who don't need the best of anything so we're watching to see if the cheap one is good enough lol
Put a spacer under your nut. Nut. You can flip the outside dished washer over also. Most grinders won't have a big enough guard to let the wire brush run free after a bit of use and "blooming".
Buying cheap tools for the casual DIY homeowner is typically the best option. Professional high-dollar tools can be justified when needed every single day on the job. I purchased cheap tools to do a home remodel and then sold most of the tools, after the remodel was complete. I recouped from 25 percent to 75 percent of my purchase prices, depending on the type tool. That way I did not have to worry about rental times, etc. Some of the tools I kept for other projects. I purchased my bench grinder for $25 from a friend. It was fifteen years old at that time. I've had it for 18 years and it still works great.
About 15 years ago, I bought a brand new Baldor 8-inch grinder that can turn a battleship into a pile of powdered iron in about 30 minutes. It's probably one of the most versatile tools to have around...often just for fun. Metal grinding is a great skill to perfect, and I'm still learning. I also modified a Delta floor stand drill press to be heavier duty by swapping out the cheap Chinese coffee can motor for a 2-1/2 horsepower Baldor pump-house motor. I can drill through damn near anything now without the slightest drag on the torque. Amazing mod! As to that third tool you wanted us to guess...I'm gonna say an anvil...
thats why you dont put your fingers in the wheel it will do even worse to skin also if you wear proper fitting smooth leather gloves you wont have the issue of them getting grabbed
Sounds like you're the man to ask. I looking for a bench grinder to mainly sharpen electric shaving blades like the Andis T liners, lawnmower blades, kitchen knives, hunting knives, axes, machete etc... what grinder, size wheels, speeds name brand do u recommend for the average DIY guy ? Great video. Thank u.
Some people spend thousands a year on take away coffees yet balk at spending $ on something thats actually useful and should last a lifetime,personally i dont understand it...Id give up coffee if i couldnt afford toy... i means tools!
@@dunxy IDK, I like good coffee and toys, and building things, so I built a mobile coffee shop, hired my ex (before she was ex) to run it, drank free coffee, and spent the profit on more toys.
Third tool would be a drill press. Move your spacer to the outside of the convex washer, the wire or stone wheel needs contact with both of them on each side to spin correctly, and not slip. awesome videos, keep em coming!! CHEERS!!!
Awesome choice. I was thinking battery charger or power bar but I don't know how long ago he was talking. Then a radio but that probably would be on a shelf.
Awesome review.. I like the Wen, especially with the built on light... Heck, I'm three months away from 83. what do I need with something that will last 50 years?
Best to move the workpiece side to side on the grinding wheel to prevent uneven wear on the wheel. Just commenting so anyone inexperienced knows. Cody was just trying to bog down the unit's for a test.
When I was a young guy I bought a 3/4 hp Craftsman bench grinder. Still runs great. If you are young step up and buy a lifetime unit, if you are old a cheep unit will work. I have always run the wire wheel without covers so I can clean odd shapes items. The third item at least in my case was a small drill press.
doubt you still read comments on this old of a video. But, I just wanted to say thanks for doing a great job at being objective for the common man with your videos.
I have a WEN zip saw that I inherited from my dad that was made in the late 50's early 60's and the label says that it was made in Chicago. Mine must have been made before the company moved to China.
ive been a big fan of the channel for a long time now.. been tooling up my personal shop as of late. I find it amazingly funny how i have purchased the same press and bench grinder combo. Also went through the same struggles mounting the same wire wheel to the bench grinder. It all worked out in the end.
dylan trerise you said it. A workbench without a drill press would always look incomplete. No matter how many other tools you try to use as a substitute.
OMG did you just put the spacer inside the cup washer?, thought you knew a few things about bench grinders? you are suppose to put the spacer out side the cup washer right behind the nut, first one cup washer then the wire wheel then the other cup washer then the spacer then the nut...
Pillar Drill is No3 .. heavy duty English Record 5 1/4 inch jaw vice No2 and a 8inch grinder with 2 different grit stones No1.. bench wire wheel, bench polishing mop, wet stone and leather strop wheel. Disk sander. Belt sander, bobbin sander, 3 wheel band saw, fret saw/ scroll saw.. wood working vice. These all live on my bench !
You want the spacer behind your supporting washer, NOT against the wire brush. Supporting washers need to support each side of the wire brush for it to operate safely!
I bought my pap the wen bench grinder for his body shop. It works great for what we do with it. I would highly recommend it for people who don't need or want to pay alot of money for one
@@madisonhill3175 A drill press can take a wider range of drill sizes. Has more power and torque. The work can be held down, with a vice and you have more control on the operation. A hand drill is one of the necessary tools, but its more for field work, on the job etc.
@@madisonhill3175 precision work can be done with a drill press. Easier to complete a job. I've drilled broken steel bolts out of aluminum before by hand (more than once) but by far many jobs are easier completed with a drill press. Don't forget about a few dabs of cutting oil. I use 5w30 or 15w40 engine oil!
The long shaft 600 dollar bench grinder gives you longer strokes before interfering with the opposing wheel. Thus, you keeping a safe working distance/environment and they usually have sturdier guides that allow for safer operation and more accurate angles for dressing edges. Not to mention the rpms tend to be lower so you can worry less if you are using very course stones, because course stones come to pieces more easily. The 600 dollar grinder also boogs down a lot less, usually from gear reduction. For 600 bucks it is also not uncommon for them to have integral filing collection and sometimes even a catch can for coolant. I've even seen them with cast pedistals at that price point. I'm a 22 year vet of the mechanical dark arts, and I wish I had all the money I ever spent on chinium junk just to have great gear sooner. I'd have had more beer and egg money as a young man and I'd have not struggled so hard to do some jobs a few years ago, and I'd have had most of the great equipment that I have now much sooner. Sometimes cheap, is just too cheap, and that becomes very expensive over time. Thanks for the videos Mr. W. I've been liking them for a few years now. Blessings to you and your family for showing, young people and not so young people, that independant living doesn't mean hard living.
Vise, belt sander, drill press. I have a grinder and a wire wheel that I can chuck up in the drill press. The belt sander works very well for sharpening mower blades!
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Wranglerstar the 3rd thing granddad had was a compound miter saw/ chop saw
Thanks for mentioning me about the LocTite Cody, your all class buddy.
#3 was a drill press. Just my guess.
The third was a drill press
what song is in the intro
I watched the whole vid and i'm not even looking for a grinder
I wasn't until I saw this video, now I feel something ismissing in life :O
Thanks wranglerstar, I've now seen the light!
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I wasn't looking for a grinder and I watched the video and read your comment.
Me too.
Now I gotta get one.
Me to And now I've to get one 🙄
"All I did was tighten up that bolt a little bit and very carefully." Hits it with the impact like he's in a Nascar pit crew!
Lmao
My thoughts exactly lol 😂
@Nedd Flanders He knows what he’s doing.
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Yeah, if by knows you mean dosnt know.
Its not the impact hammer that i was confused by, i mean it really shouldnt break from it, its the fact he turned it on without realizing he just loosened the other side, if it actually broke in half there could have been some catastrophic failure there.
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The shafts thread in with one side being reversed threads. Your impact gun loosened the shaft threads, starting the grinder tightened them back up.
Good thinking. Open the thing uptrow locktite in.
I was just going to say that, did the same thig my self
This whole channel is a ploy to justify to his wife buying the most expensive tools for his workshop.
Genius though.
I wish I thought of that, that way I don't have to fight every time I buy something, lol
I just went straight to the source of the problem and got unmarried. You start noticing a lot of problems that you had before start vanishing. "I can do this now." "I'm just gonna leave and not have to tell anybody where or when I'll be home." I can take extra time... all the time I want to do anything and not have it be such a buzzkill if I don't finish in time. Actually, I don't even know what that feels like anymore because I don't ask myself how long is this going to take me. I'm done when I'm done. I don't have to argue. I don't feel like a disappointment because I realized I'm not. I was disappointed. I'm not advocating divorce. I'm just saying it's so much better than being married.
@@ohms5054 Sounds like you just had a bad marriage.
No offense.
I've been in the same relationship for 10 years and marriage for 4 of them.
Also "not have to tell anybody where or when I'll be home" sounds more like *nobody cares if I'm gone* which is kinda sad mostly.
Hope you can find a relationship or person more suited to you though in the future.
@@Dangerpurple I was in the same relationship from 21 until 32 years , married for two. She was a good person and I may be exaggerating. For some reasons, marriage changed things. I'm just glad we didn't have kids to put through that. I had immediately jumped into another relationship for four years, bought a house, got engaged, she comes home and doesn't think she loves me anymore. Oh well. Single for the first time in my life for the past few years has helped me break out of autopilot mode. I'm glad for you though. Some marriages just work out better than others. It's not that they don't care that you're gone, you just haven't given them reason to worry. I wish you and your family the best.
Isn’t it genius!?
Not witchcraft. The threads on the left side of a bench grinder are reverse. when you used the impact gun on the wire wheel the mass of the grinding wheel wanted to stay still and the friction between it and the nut and washer was enough to loosen the nut when the torque hit the shaft. The threads are reversed on the left side so they will self tighten. That is why the problem resolved itself when you turned the motor on.
My thoughts exactly. Who ever wired a 3 phase grinder wrong knew that right away when in the best case scenario had to retighten the nuts rather than pickup grinding wheel pieces from the floor
Beat me to it BladeWorks.
this also has a benefit of ensuring that the nut isn't over-torqued (in my experience last time I changed a stone). Those loose/flappy gloved fingers really shouldn't be anywhere near that wheel...
@@AN-kg4ei yep, I was thinking the same thing. Especially with the wire wheel.
Seems like he should have KNOWN that. I mean, he already has one.
A drill pres is the third item needed as a minimum of three items for a small shop. By way, HF offers the same grinder but with shields for 19.00 USD cheaper. love your videos. I don't comment much on any of them because they are good. Thanks for the good videos.
I said anvil but drill press is prob it
The third thing granddad had on his workbench was one of those dancing hula girls.
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@@franknada8235 ya LOL My grand ma would have beat him with that...(she was roman catholic)
@@brianmartin7964 Good for her!!!
shout out to hula girls
Haha my grandad had a hula girl made out of wood. 15yrs since he passed and a had forgotten. Thanks for the memories 👍
The third thing he had was a calendar with naked women, probably Rosie the riveter.
I thought of a drill of some sort, maybe a drill press, but yeah a calendar would make more sense
yea... my dad has those... bruhh...
if Rosie looks right, I'll rivet her!
nah thats on the wall so you could see it from every angle
Yeah pillar drill or bench/band saw maybe
"The right tool for the right job". If you spend 50 hours a week working metals and making a living from your trade, the Baldor is worth every penny and it will pay for itself over and over. If your a handy homeowner who needs to grind and sharpen and remove some rust once and a while, the WEN should last you a life time with a little care.
Like my Grandpa always said...."Ya get what ya pay for"✌️
I'd say drill press. The main things people will be doing is cutting a material or putting holes in a material. you have the vice to secure the item to cut, you have the grinder to clean up the things you cut so logically the only thing left is to put holes in things. Yes you can use a hand held drill but a drill press is so much easier to use over all.
or a big old box of loctite and hair pieces
My first cheap bench grinder was a dual shaft motor from an old washing machine and two arbor adapters from Sears. No switch, just a plug in power cord. No tool rest or shields, just open grind rock and wire brush. I used that grinder for years, until I could afford a store bought one. I leader end safety and how to make things work the hard way. A lot has changed since those days.
Funny I see this comment.
Me and my father did the same thing last year to clean some large bolts and sharpen chisels. At the time it seemed perfect, but when I finally got a real grinder I quickly realized the danger I was playing with when using that ole washer motor. No guards, no lights, no covers.
BUT, you can't beat those old days with your pops in the garage making things. Wouldn't trade those days for anything in this life.
I’m going to take a wild guess that the third thing was a drill press
Good guess
Since its an old timer, im going to guess file.
BEER.
Everyone is close but it's the friends you make along the way
that’s what my buddies dad had when he left the garage behind.
Bench grinder, vice 2x (vert. and hori.), and a drill press.
I would put a small neodymium magnet on the underside of the tool rest to catch those loose wires. For a third tool, I would guess either a drill press or a miter box.
My graddad had a drill press. So i'll go with that as the 3rd item.
I hope that's part if the video series. Im desperately trying to get a small shed rebuilt into a small shop starting with the bench and this design is far better than mine.
Yeah, I'm betting drill press as well. :)
Drill press also.
My guess as well
I thought about it for a while and I have a bench grinder and a vise and when I buy or build a better and larger bench I will get a small drill press that can run at least 3000rpm. So a drill press is my guess.
Just a quick bench Comment, I mount my bench grinders on a 2 x 4 that way I can set them in any vice in my shop that I choose, And not using up any permanent bench space.
joe Rogers that’s a good idea
I mounted mine on a piece of plywood and put it on an old Black & Decker Workmate when needed.
Sweet idea !!!
years ago I had an antique grinder, actually fit a kanoe seat swivel under it, with like a hundred ball bearings. Used valve springs to make the depth top side adjustable and a small cabinet door lock with holes at various favorite positions. Left it behind for the next tenant it was so well excuted.
Genius if space is at a premium,
I lucked out and found a returned Delta 8" variable speed bench grinder at Lowes for $39.00. The paint was chipped in a few spots on the cast iron base.
I have that grinder. It's been fine.
Third thing on the bench: A beer! 1:40
No! Can of Coca Cola, Mexican made with real cane sugar.
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 or coffee!👍👱
@@sharronkelly115 Yes, coffee with doughnuts. Follow the adage "never do a job on an empty stomach".
@†ANGÉ|† nice! A bible to rip all the pages out, roll a joint and smoke some pot
Omg 😱 so true
On the baldor the main thing that makes it so superior is how far the wheels are frim the motor it gives you so much more useable space . VERY USEFUL.
The Baldor also has a much smaller motor.
My takeaway: don't judge others unless you walk in their shoes. I like that. You're right. For some people, a full line of Ryobi tools will be all they need. Sure, they're not Snap-on, Hilti, etc. but not everyone needs that. Thanks, Cody.
I have a lot of Ryobi tools and have been completely satisfied with all of them. I’m your average DIY’er and those tools have serviced me well. I find that people who bad mouth Ryobi are just doing so to justify spending Tool Truck prices for their choice.
The third thing you had on his bench was a drill press
air compressor
@@jakegarrison787 an air compressor resrs on thr ground and is huge af
A vise and then the drill press...
I have a Wolf brand drill press, you can remove the drill for use separately. I'd say it's '70's maybe '60's judging how I got it. The rubber starting to perish however it works like a treat. I say starting as these things were maid to be repaired. I need a bench grinder. Thanks for the video.
My grandfather also had only this triple combo on the work bench (although technically the grinder was wall-mounted, but in the area).
“All I did was tighten it very carefully”
*impact go dakdakdakdak*
Put the spacer outside of the large washers. Large washer, then wire wheel, then the other large washer, then the spacer then the nut. That will give you proper thread contact and proper contact with the washers.
Dwarfracer88, I was thinking the same thing when I saw him do that.
On my workbench in addition to my Baldor I had a 6" vice and a drilling/milling machine. Way better than a common drill press.
@@CDNBVR1 Way more expensive too.
@@jonathanbetenbender307 But worth it. You can do so much more with a drilling/milling machine. IE: cut keyways in shafting, mill thicknesses to name a couple
I’m three years late but I wanted to reach through the screen and slap him for putting the spacer next to the wheel. I swear I just don’t understand how some people successfully survive in life without common sense the spacer and not understanding that the hut was loose on the other side had me shaking my head.
@@CDNBVR1 What do you mean by drilling/milling machine?
Is this what most people call a milling machine? I am just getting going and was wondering why not to just get a milling machine instead of drill press because it seems like a mill would do both.
Are there downsides?
Thanks
I believe the Wen has an inertial clutch, a safety device which will stop rotation if jammed.
@Doc French Mr. W doesn't read manuals.
I tought that the bolt on the stone wheel was loose
Inertial..?? No... i got one.. one nut is reverse thread other is not.. when you tighten the one the other gonna loosen.. you gotta fanagle it to get em both tight.. he just loosened the nut on the stone when he used a damn gun to put the other nut on.. also your never supposed to use a gun on a bench grinder, especially the wheels.. ive cracked a stone by hand tightening.. on top of top the spacer should be put after the cupped washers because the outer washer would be putting a force around the spacer which was smaller than the washer.. needs equal pressure against both washers to keep centered.. the threads on cheaper grinders are cut different so if you put self centered washers on both sides they take up for the allignment issues of the. Nut...
@@Z-Ack yep was going to say the same thing! all the grinders in the uk have the same feature with the reversed thread on ever side :)
It's called lack of power. Or otherwise your "safety" feature
** Rams bolt with impact driver**
"All I did was tighten that bolt a little bit"
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I was thinking exactly the same. I changed a dozen grinding stones and stuff and I never ever used an impact driver. It wouldn't even cross my mind, but hey... everyone has his own methods ;)
I am very new to the world of tools and making projects and even I thought that lol
@@marcodhaene -👍Same
@@SPECIALIZED95711 acting like a genius then what?
Event if has settings, the basic setting or not, hearing the impact (hammer) is indicative of a strong force acting on a tightened nut
Smoothly and gently indicate a sensitive hand feeling the nut cathing and no more, hope you get what other people are saying
@@SPECIALIZED95711 that is incorrect. Every impact tool does not have a torque setting. Impact drivers are just what their names are for, IMPACT! They hit like a hammer till tight. With or without a torque setting bro. Hits like a hammer. The internal parts shows why they hit like that and are called Impact Drivers. Just some quick info, not trying to insult anyone. And oh btw the manual does say do not tighten with an impact wrench.
The third thing on Grandad's workbench was a reloading press.
joe_mule no it wasn’t ..... It was Grandma in her lingerie waiting for Grandad to give her one.
I'm a machinist, and we have that exact Baldor. It is as reliable as the sun, which is what you need in a production environment. We also use DeWalt grinders, which deliver a great value for the money. The cheap ones just don't hold up - the proof of the pudding is in the tasting, I guess.
What's the wattage and size of the wheel on that?
@@AS-ug2vq I have a baldor 7" grinder that I think is either 1/2 or 2/3hp and 3 phase. It was left in a business suite that I cleaned out and rehabbed after the tenant was evicted. Luckily, I took it and figured out what a variable frequency drive is and spent $150 to get a $700 grinder going. It is a great size for a home shop or small business and it is very powerful and smooth as silk. I figured it was broken when I saw they left it behind, but it turns out it was 3 phase, so maybe they thought it was only good in a commercial shop. The 120v version looks like it only pulls 4 amps which is 480 watts.
Same here. Im a heavy equipment operator for a demo company and we are constantly breaking buckets and grapples ect. We have a couple bench grinders but usually go with our big and ref Milwaukee angle grinders. The dewalts kept burning out on us. The key is try to find the highest amperage angle grinder if you’re running it hard and for long periods
You're teaching me everything I wish my dad and uncle never taught me and I appreciate it more than you know. I'm a very grateful subscriber.
I’m here to learn because my dad left the world and my uncle never taught me. Basically I’m retarded.
Third thing you need on your bench. United States Postal Service bin to hold your miscellaneous parts!!!!!😉
Hiding a loctite bottle sounds like fun to me!
Respect for playing Metallica in the beginning
The left wheel on the Baldor needs to be dressed with a wheel dresser. Instead of wearing gloves to prevent burning your hands when grinding, use vice-grips or pliers. The wheel can catch the glove and draw your hand or fingers into the grinder. You should replace the wheels when the wheel when it is approximately one-half the original diameter of the wheel. Keep the same face on the wheel as when it was original. Wearing the wheel unevenly can cause it to be unbalanced and disintegrate. Thanks for the tip on the Mora Chisel Knife.
I don't wear gloves with anything that spins; also on a table/circular saw you can feel when something is going wrong (something in the wood. pinching etc).. your literally cutting off a sense when you wear gloves. Also safety glasses always fog up, I've got a pair of goggles that fair well... point is I'm all about the face shield, if it's glasses I'll end up going without (I'm gonna get a face shield that's a bit more robust). Wanna get a leather apron eventually too (have a canvas one atm).
Btw he said repeatedly that the wheel needs replaced, and mentioned in the video about dressing the wheel (even said he'd make a video on how to do it).
You loosened the nut on the grinding wheel side by using an impact driver. You might want to tighten that. Also, the spacer you put on should probably behind the other cup so that both cups are against the wire wheel.
Thinking the exact same thing!
The nut on one side is right handed, the nut on the other side is left handed. So when you tighten one you loosen the other.
my thoughts exactly.
@@stevedarnell8444 So how should you tighten both then?
Toffie47 you can hold the tight side and just snug the other side up then hold that side to finish tightening it. At least that’s what I’ve always done.
I didn't have $50 back then, so I made one with scrap water pump motor
I made mine with a pool pump filter motor
Third thing was a drill press ?? Or possibly a kit of some kind
I also bet my money on that.
Drill press was my guess too !
My money is on drill press too
Same
Yup, drill press is my guess too.
first safety rule working with a bench grinder, never wear heavy gloves.
No heavy baggy clothes,huge gloves,big hanging chain, no glasses ever.. loose cool points and last u must wear sandles while grinding.. prooves your tough 😂
@@chrisjones6165 I wear flip flops casting metal and welding...
@@Eluderatnight I would laugh, but here is Dawn Machinery India and one of their videos where they pour a base for a planer... "Shoes? We don't need no stink'in shoes!"
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Eluderatnight lol I was poring aluminum and stepped on hot slag didn’t realize about a few minutes later I noticed my shoe getting really hot and when I realized what had happened immediately kicked them off there’s goes 100 dollars
Never wear gloves in general
You might not see This but Hi from the UK. England. I'm a DIY person on a budget I love that you have taken time out to us explain the differances with cheeper tools.
And depends on what we're doing what I should buy..and pay . Big thank you xx
Was the third thing on granddads bench a $700 flat screen tv?
"Unless you're walking a man's shoes, you really dont know what fits well for him"
Now, thats a good phrase right there
Cold beer
Ash tray
Anvil
Drill press
Ice pic
Ball sack
Magify glass
Lighter
5lb hammer
Monkey wrench
Pocket knife
Safety glasses
WD-40
Come on I'm dieing here. What was it?🙏🏾
Great series of practical evaluations!
Third thing in the shop is a drill press.
For a machine shop --4th is a gas torch or if you are serious, a lathe then a metal band saw.
For a woodworker -- 4th is a table saw then a jig saw then a table router, or wood lathe.
For those that said "dancing hula girls" very impractical and distracting that is - but if you insist, they must wear safety glasses and I always made them remove their lose hula dresses (for safety)
hhhahhaha
"That doesn't inspire confidence" Lol! That was great! I would guess your grandpa had a bench top drill press, because he sounds like he was a logical man, and logical men, have drill presses. He also sounds like a logical man, who liked his work bench, so a bench top drill press would be the logical choice of drill presses. If not a drill press, he would've had a light of some sort. Thanks for the videos Mr. Wranglerstar!
I have my Dad's vintage Rockwell grinder from the 60's I believe. It's an old beast. I just built a table for it, cleaned it, gave it a new gray enamel paint, and new wheel and wire brush. She's a proud unit once again. And it has a light as well.
That intro of Metallica's Nothing Else Matters in banjo got my like already
Indeed.
Thanks. I couldn't put my finger on it. Great song for a banjo cover. Made me like the song more because I realize it would sound at home hundreds of years ago.
It's by Steven Seagulls, one of the best covers ever IMO
Just getting to this video. Recognized the mandatory metallica right off! Love it
What ever you do please make sure you have a shield or protective glasses on. A close family friend who was once an engineer for GM lost an eye because of a broken wire frome his bench grinder wire brush. His eye became infected atrophied and had to be removed.
"Unless you walk in a guys shoes, you really don't know what fits best for him"! Honestly one of the greatest statements I have ever heard and will ever hear! You Officially got my subscription. Well said.
Let me point out a couple of things:
What happened when you impacted the wire wheel on, was that you loosened the nut on the opposite side. There is a left and a right hand thread so tightening one side with impact will loosen the other. The direction of the thread on either side results in rotation tightening the nut.... or rather it is to prevent rotation from loosening the nut. Any grinder will to this... but the very low inertial mass makes it more likely with the little one.
Second. the printed horsepower rating means nothing at all on modern motors. To know the relative power you look at amps. They lie about horsepower on almost everything.
A drill press of course is the next indispensable tool.... I own a floor stand drill press, two electromagnetic drill presses, and a light weight drill press stand that will take a half inch cordless or corded drill..................... I rarely use the latter, and use the floor stand drill virtually every day. I use hand held grinders far more than a bench grinder...
Yes! My 4 HP Craftsman air compressor has a 15 amp GE motor in it. GE, for obvious reasons, does not have the horsepower on the motor. I would believe the rating of a Baldor motor but not the HP rating of most electric tools. Fifteen amps at 115 VAC will get you 2.3 HP no matter how it's calculated.
You sir are a true workshop dweller, in North America its like a millwright, , its a cross between a mechanical ( practical) technician / engineer,
@@David-hm9ic yeah that's about right 2.3 hp,
Drill press ofcourse! Cannot go without!
Would be nice to test these Drill jigs that hold drills upright, and definetely not the cheapest once (they will break just by looking at them) but the more pro stuff, really intrested if they would work
There called drill presses or mills
Thanks for sharing. A female like me who does not have anyone to help needs someone like you to show us how and what tools can work well. Appreciate it.
"that doesn't inspire confidence.." I LOVED that!! 😀
To be honest..I would spend the extra bread and buy a good heavy grinder with the strongest motor I could find! I did in 1972, and that big B**ch is STILL to strong to stall down with a mower blade or a tire iron!! I HAVE tried!Great grinder! I paid $285 1972 dollars for it..no regrets ever!
I know a budget IS important..VERY. I'm simply saying brother that IF the money is there, or almost there..save a little more, and pay what you need to to buy a HD "quality product!"
Thanks for the video pal..great job!!
Kudos on the flat panel TV comment. It IS all about priorities. I weaned m'self from TV in about 1992. Never have missed it, not one iota.
Oldman, so you don't know what you have missed since 1992 ? Nothing, but has gotten even worse.
Older than dirt :-(
I feel like the entire beginning of these videos is him trying to justify his more expensive purchase on the "better" tools until he tests them. 90% of people watching these videos are people who don't need the best of anything so we're watching to see if the cheap one is good enough lol
I’m guessing the third thing was his wedding ring, cause safety first
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Put a spacer under your nut. Nut. You can flip the outside dished washer over also. Most grinders won't have a big enough guard to let the wire brush run free after a bit of use and "blooming".
Buying cheap tools for the casual DIY homeowner is typically the best option. Professional high-dollar tools can be justified when needed every single day on the job. I purchased cheap tools to do a home remodel and then sold most of the tools, after the remodel was complete. I recouped from 25 percent to 75 percent of my purchase prices, depending on the type tool. That way I did not have to worry about rental times, etc. Some of the tools I kept for other projects.
I purchased my bench grinder for $25 from a friend. It was fifteen years old at that time. I've had it for 18 years and it still works great.
freaking killing it lately with these VS videos!
Drill press? That's what I would put on my work bench
About 15 years ago, I bought a brand new Baldor 8-inch grinder that can turn a battleship into a pile of powdered iron in about 30 minutes.
It's probably one of the most versatile tools to have around...often just for fun.
Metal grinding is a great skill to perfect, and I'm still learning.
I also modified a Delta floor stand drill press to be heavier duty by swapping out the cheap Chinese coffee can motor for a 2-1/2 horsepower Baldor pump-house motor.
I can drill through damn near anything now without the slightest drag on the torque. Amazing mod!
As to that third tool you wanted us to guess...I'm gonna say an anvil...
I like to have an articulating work light with a magnifying glass on my work bench.
The third thing was a highly interested grandson
Niels Cremer This comment takes the cake! Love it!
I agree...and that was me. I had a lot of great memories with him at his work bench. I really miss him.
On my bench I added a midsize drill press ... though I also added a 10" compound miter saw. Great review thanks. I bought the DeWalt ...
I was taught to not use gloves when working with spinning tools. We had a guy in the shop lose some fingers because the wheel grabbed his glove.
Dang! Scary!
If the piece im holding it too hot i just hold it with vice grips. No gloves
thats why you dont put your fingers in the wheel it will do even worse to skin also if you wear proper fitting smooth leather gloves you wont have the issue of them getting grabbed
No joke. I say one of of ex's get her finger sucked in a disk sander from wearing gloves. Took all the skin off her finger. It wasn't very good
keep the gap between your wheel and your rest less than 1/16 of an inch and you will be okay.
Props on the Metallica intro. Cant go wrong.
cover by Ironhorse - "Fade to Bluegrass" album I believe.
Am I the only one that immediately noticed “nothing else matters” on a banjo in the intro?
I was wondering if wranglestar knew what it was
No you weren't
I noticed it too, and now I want to listen to the whole rendition.
I have noticed and now want to play my guitar
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The 3rd thing was a bottle of English Leather cologne, cus a mans always gotta smell good 😎
that was my grandfather
Great video cody! I'm gonna guess a drill press
Sounds like you're the man to ask. I looking for a bench grinder to mainly sharpen electric shaving blades like the Andis T liners, lawnmower blades, kitchen knives, hunting knives, axes, machete etc... what grinder, size wheels, speeds name brand do u recommend for the average DIY guy ? Great video. Thank u.
“Sit in front of a 500 dollar tv all night. It’s all about priorities. “. I love it man. Love your channel
Some people spend thousands a year on take away coffees yet balk at spending $ on something thats actually useful and should last a lifetime,personally i dont understand it...Id give up coffee if i couldnt afford toy... i means tools!
@@dunxy IDK, I like good coffee and toys, and building things, so I built a mobile coffee shop, hired my ex (before she was ex) to run it, drank free coffee, and spent the profit on more toys.
Btw a 55in 4k tv 2 years ago was less than $250 brand new and it still works great.
Vice, bench grinder, beer
P.s. I love the metallica cover
Third tool would be a drill press.
Move your spacer to the outside of the convex washer, the wire or stone wheel needs contact with both of them on each side to spin correctly, and not slip. awesome videos, keep em coming!!
CHEERS!!!
Awesome choice. I was thinking battery charger or power bar but I don't know how long ago he was talking. Then a radio but that probably would be on a shelf.
3rd thing probably wasn't a first aid kit 😂🤣 so a drill press
Thats the last thing in the shop... after the thrown (toilet) was built
radio
I think the Loctite Easter egg hunt is a good idea. 😉😆
I always run a wire wheel for a few minutes when it's new, whether I'm using it on a bench or hand grinder to help any loose bits work themselves off.
Maybe the space should have gone on the outside of the washer so both large ends of the washer make contact with the wire wheel
I'm going with a BFH or drill press. Though may favorite tool is my head lamp.
I was taught never to wear gloves when working with any rotating machine that can grab the glove along with your fingers . What’s your take on that ?
Your impact wrench backed off the nut on the other end of the shaft, when you turned it on the motor spun it back tight.
Clever fellow!
I thought i was the only one to notice that 😅
You managed to fit 5 sexual innuendos in a single sentence... Color me impressed!!! Lol
My Papaw had a round grinding stone about 14" . You had to sit and peddle to turn the wheel . Old school lol .
Hey. east coast guy, here. I would get the smaller one because it would fit better in my one bedroom apartment. This is east coast guy signing off.
Awesome review.. I like the Wen, especially with the built on light... Heck, I'm three months away from 83. what do I need with something that will last 50 years?
Best to move the workpiece side to side on the grinding wheel to prevent uneven wear on the wheel. Just commenting so anyone inexperienced knows. Cody was just trying to bog down the unit's for a test.
That is correct! It really pisses me off when the grinding wheel has been abused by someone who should know better.
When I was a young guy I bought a 3/4 hp Craftsman bench grinder. Still runs great. If you are young step up and buy a lifetime unit, if you are old a cheep unit will work. I have always run the wire wheel without covers so I can clean odd shapes items. The third item at least in my case was a small drill press.
doubt you still read comments on this old of a video. But, I just wanted to say thanks for doing a great job at being objective for the common man with your videos.
I have a WEN zip saw that I inherited from my dad that was made in the late 50's early 60's and the label says that it was made in Chicago. Mine must have been made before the company moved to China.
ive been a big fan of the channel for a long time now.. been tooling up my personal shop as of late. I find it amazingly funny how i have purchased the same press and bench grinder combo. Also went through the same struggles mounting the same wire wheel to the bench grinder. It all worked out in the end.
drill press??? coming from a east coast guy ;)
what would you call it otherwise. I am in Newfoundland.
Oh man, i was going to say it was a drill press, but if they use those on the east coast then that can't be right. :)
Piller drill
I would say grand dad had a drillpress on his bench. It would be my choice.
adam boylan that was what i was thinking right away classic drill press a staple in the workshop
dylan trerise you said it. A workbench without a drill press would always look incomplete. No matter how many other tools you try to use as a substitute.
An air compressor
Belt sander
Thumbs up before I even watched the video. I like Steve 'N' Seagulls.
The third thing was a bottle of goose hidden behind something so the Mrs. could not see it.
OMG did you just put the spacer inside the cup washer?, thought you knew a few things about bench grinders? you are suppose to put the spacer out side the cup washer right behind the nut, first one cup washer then the wire wheel then the other cup washer then the spacer then the nut...
Exactly what I thought... bad practice in my eyes.
Y'know, I'm no tool guru but I saw that, too. :)
I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you there
Pillar Drill is No3 .. heavy duty English Record 5 1/4 inch jaw vice No2 and a 8inch grinder with 2 different grit stones No1.. bench wire wheel, bench polishing mop, wet stone and leather strop wheel. Disk sander. Belt sander, bobbin sander, 3 wheel band saw, fret saw/ scroll saw.. wood working vice. These all live on my bench !
The 3rd thing had to be a can of beer.... At least that's what my grand-daddy always had on his bench
You want the spacer behind your supporting washer, NOT against the wire brush.
Supporting washers need to support each side of the wire brush for it to operate safely!
I bought my pap the wen bench grinder for his body shop. It works great for what we do with it. I would highly recommend it for people who don't need or want to pay alot of money for one
Drill press too, as the third most needful shop item.
Call me a novice, but why is a drill press more useful than a portable drill?
@@madisonhill3175 A drill press can take a wider range of drill sizes. Has more power and torque. The work can be held down, with a vice and you have more control on the operation. A hand drill is one of the necessary tools, but its more for field work, on the job etc.
@@madisonhill3175 precision work can be done with a drill press. Easier to complete a job. I've drilled broken steel bolts out of aluminum before by hand (more than once) but by far many jobs are easier completed with a drill press.
Don't forget about a few dabs of cutting oil. I use 5w30 or 15w40 engine oil!
@@trentwheeler6161 TY!
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 TY!
Who else was disappointed that he didn't connect them together? Because I was.
The long shaft 600 dollar bench grinder gives you longer strokes before interfering with the opposing wheel. Thus, you keeping a safe working distance/environment and they usually have sturdier guides that allow for safer operation and more accurate angles for dressing edges. Not to mention the rpms tend to be lower so you can worry less if you are using very course stones, because course stones come to pieces more easily. The 600 dollar grinder also boogs down a lot less, usually from gear reduction. For 600 bucks it is also not uncommon for them to have integral filing collection and sometimes even a catch can for coolant. I've even seen them with cast pedistals at that price point. I'm a 22 year vet of the mechanical dark arts, and I wish I had all the money I ever spent on chinium junk just to have great gear sooner. I'd have had more beer and egg money as a young man and I'd have not struggled so hard to do some jobs a few years ago, and I'd have had most of the great equipment that I have now much sooner. Sometimes cheap, is just too cheap, and that becomes very expensive over time. Thanks for the videos Mr. W. I've been liking them for a few years now. Blessings to you and your family for showing, young people and not so young people, that independant living doesn't mean hard living.
Was it a drill press? I didn’t read all the replies.
for my tiny beginner projects, that 50$ bench grinder would be so cool
Vise, belt sander, drill press. I have a grinder and a wire wheel that I can chuck up in the drill press. The belt sander works very well for sharpening mower blades!