You are the second pro this year (Dixie Dixon being the other one) who told me they set their camera WB to cloudy. People pay top dollar to have strobe lights that consistently produce the same temperature so it makes sense to do something similar with our cameras. I like Lightroom's eyedropper feature showing me the RGB as I move it around searching for something neutral.
Just discovered your tutorials. At last, content that I understand and a great help for my beginnings working in Lightroom. Thank you for creating your Lightroom tutorials and please keep them coming. 🙂
Hi Terry enjoy vary much the way you teach ! I have just purchased lightroom for the cloud , when I see a learning videos for lightroom classic is this the same teaching instructions for my lightroom cloud app ?
Hi Dan, no not really. Most of my tutorials are on Lightroom CLASSIC. Which is different. Lightroom for the cloud is kind of a lesser version of LRC, so I only use the Classic version. Sorry.
Thank tou for a very informative video - with clear explanations of the reasons why you use those settings rather than simply "this is what I do" Thank you 🙂
Thanks so much for these videos - the best I've come across for an introduction to LrC. One question. Why does Lightroom recommend ProPhoto RGB as opposed to Abobe RGB (1998) if it can't be synched with a Nikon camera? Since my camera doesn't have ProPhoto RGB as an option, is it best to stick with Adobe RGB in Lightroom? Thanks!
Thank you Terry for your clear and concise overviews of a few of the Lightroom features. I absolutely love your delivery style. These have helped me a lot as I venture into Lightroom (and shortly into Photoshop). I've gone through the current seven LrC videos available and I look forward to your upcoming ones. Thanks for setting up the playlist. Do you plan on putting together Photoshop Tutorials?
@@tv510 Terry, I do have one question. Does it matter which numbers should be equal, or is it okay as long as all three numbers are pretty close? For example, do higher numbers indicate something versus lower numbers? I realize it is all about finding a balance but I'm curious about whether or not a particular number range is better than another.
@@mariecostanza3975 No issue Marie. You are looking for balance. You want all three numbers close to one another. If you find one number way off, then likely you are not zeroing in on a neutral color. (that can even be a good reminder to you to find another spot to put the eye dropper tool and take a sample. You can test this by shooting something you know is gray, black or white. I used to bring a gray card with me to shoot in one shot, just incase I had weird lighting. Good luck!
It doesn’t matter if you set the camera to Adobe or sRGB if you only shoot raw. The colorspace is only applied when raw is converted to ex tif or jpg. Also you should set your colorspace on your monitor to adobe if you really want to use that.
@@tv510also to clarify… you should set all your devices to Adobe, including the printer, if you are going to use it. So my general recommendation would be to use sRGB. Also, the reason why you don’t see a difference is because you should raw. You see your photos in sRGB or what ever your monitor is set to. Lightroom just opens the raw image which has no colorspace.
Thanks for the fine video. My camera allows me to select various color spaces for jpg files but it does not have any choice as to color space for the DNG file. Is a DNG file the issue? I know they are not the same as the RAW you were presenting. Shooting a Q2
It's either DNG (which includes RAW data?) or JPEG. The Leica software only allows you to change the color space of JPEG's. I thought the white balance didn't really matter as it could be adjusted in post individually or globally? Thanks for the reply!@@tv510
@@MichaelSaylor-l8x Lightroom and Photoshop will let you change it. I just try to get all my devices and programs to be in the same color space, so I don't get warnings when I am compositing images that one won't match another. Good info to know.
thank you I had my camera color space on srgb and I did not know I could change it to adobe which I now did, is there a reason why you don't choose for profoto rgb in photoshop and lightroom?
Very informative video. Great work. I have one question. I use lightroom classic and photoshop. In lightroom mine is set to prophoto rgb (this is the recommended choice) message shows. If i wanted to change to adobe rgb(1998) it shows (adobe color space cannot encompass the full range of colors available within lightroom, etc) Should i just set both to adobe(1998) instead of prophoto? 🤔Will it make any noticable different? thank you 🙂
Hi Dreamship, I have found that indeed I started with Prophoto RGB and over time, I saw the same message and figured I wanted more colors! However, I had strange results from images I sent to my professional printer. Since I have set up for Adobe RGB, no problems. Just my take.
@@tv510 - I took 3 printing workshops this year from Moab paper and from Canon. Canon sent their top ICC profiler to teach the class and in all three cases, we were told to use Adobe RGB. We were shown color charts showing the difference between sRGB, Adobe RGB and Prophoto RGB and then told that human eyes cannot see all of the colors of Prophoto anyway, so don't bother with it. It would be the equivalent of buying speakers that could produce 1-100,000Hz.
Hi, Terry! When shooting in RAW, the color space in the camera is meaningless; in fact, the binding of the RAW-image to one of the color standards occurs at the output of the RAW converter. Let me repeat a little differently: a RAW file has no color space in principle. Therefore, when shooting in RAW it doesn't matter what color space is set in the camera.
And in addition, if you want to post your jpgs with AdobeRGB straight to the web, this will usually lead to issues without reconverting them to sRGB in advance. So sRGB is always the safe way to go.
You are the second pro this year (Dixie Dixon being the other one) who told me they set their camera WB to cloudy. People pay top dollar to have strobe lights that consistently produce the same temperature so it makes sense to do something similar with our cameras. I like Lightroom's eyedropper feature showing me the RGB as I move it around searching for something neutral.
Yes, I use the eye dropper tool quite often as well.
More invaluable advice. Thank you!
Thank you Sue!
Agree with all below. One of the best tutors on YT. All at the right pace. Bookmarked all your videos from your website.
Wow, thanks! I appreciate the kind words and for the time you spend watching.
Thanks!
Wow Ray, how cool is that! Thank you so much!!!
Hi Terry, love your series! Could you kindly make "LrC tutorials" a playlist in your channel?
Great idea! I just did that - Lightroom Classic Tutorials - I hope this helps!
Just discovered your tutorials. At last, content that I understand and a great help for my beginnings working in Lightroom. Thank you for creating your Lightroom tutorials and please keep them coming. 🙂
Will do Ed, thanks for watching!
This video was very helpful. Simple tips that make a big difference. Thank you. Just subscribed for more tips!
Hey Paul, thanks for the subscription!
Hi Terry enjoy vary much the way you teach ! I have just purchased lightroom for the cloud , when I see a learning videos for lightroom classic is this the same teaching instructions for my lightroom cloud app ?
Hi Dan, no not really. Most of my tutorials are on Lightroom CLASSIC. Which is different. Lightroom for the cloud is kind of a lesser version of LRC, so I only use the Classic version. Sorry.
Loved this one. Very helpful. Thank you.
Fantastic, glad it helped.
Thank tou for a very informative video - with clear explanations of the reasons why you use those settings rather than simply "this is what I do" Thank you 🙂
I appreciate that Steve, thanks for watching.
Thanks so much for these videos - the best I've come across for an introduction to LrC. One question. Why does Lightroom recommend ProPhoto RGB as opposed to Abobe RGB (1998) if it can't be synched with a Nikon camera? Since my camera doesn't have ProPhoto RGB as an option, is it best to stick with Adobe RGB in Lightroom? Thanks!
I shoot Nikon and switched to Adobe RBG. I was also having problems with how an image printed with ProPhoto RGB so two strikes, you're out.
Thank you!
super helpful..... thanks so much! I'll be back for more..
I appreciate that Kevin! I'll make more.
Great instruction. Do you recommend adjust white balance first or adjust exposure first, when doing post processing
I would probably do color first. But it probably doesn't matter too much.
Thank you Terry for your clear and concise overviews of a few of the Lightroom features. I absolutely love your delivery style. These have helped me a lot as I venture into Lightroom (and shortly into Photoshop). I've gone through the current seven LrC videos available and I look forward to your upcoming ones. Thanks for setting up the playlist. Do you plan on putting together Photoshop Tutorials?
As a matter of fact, I'm working a series this week. Shouldn't be too long and I'll have some episodes ready.
This is an excellent video with great tips! Thank you.
Thanks for watching Marie.
@@tv510 Terry, I do have one question. Does it matter which numbers should be equal, or is it okay as long as all three numbers are pretty close? For example, do higher numbers indicate something versus lower numbers? I realize it is all about finding a balance but I'm curious about whether or not a particular number range is better than another.
@@mariecostanza3975 No issue Marie. You are looking for balance. You want all three numbers close to one another. If you find one number way off, then likely you are not zeroing in on a neutral color. (that can even be a good reminder to you to find another spot to put the eye dropper tool and take a sample. You can test this by shooting something you know is gray, black or white. I used to bring a gray card with me to shoot in one shot, just incase I had weird lighting. Good luck!
Great to keep my color
Mine too
Thanks
Thank you for watching!
It doesn’t matter if you set the camera to Adobe or sRGB if you only shoot raw. The colorspace is only applied when raw is converted to ex tif or jpg. Also you should set your colorspace on your monitor to adobe if you really want to use that.
Thanks Tony, I would hope most people are shooting RAW but just in case, I tried to make the information for everyone. Thanks again!
@@tv510 that is also why I wanted to clarify 😀
@@tv510also to clarify… you should set all your devices to Adobe, including the printer, if you are going to use it. So my general recommendation would be to use sRGB.
Also, the reason why you don’t see a difference is because you should raw. You see your photos in sRGB or what ever your monitor is set to. Lightroom just opens the raw image which has no colorspace.
Thanks for the fine video. My camera allows me to select various color spaces for jpg files but it does not have any choice as to color space for the DNG file. Is a DNG file the issue? I know they are not the same as the RAW you were presenting. Shooting a Q2
No sure about the Q2. Does Leica not offer a propriety raw file? (RWL?) If, not just control the things you can and go from there.
It's either DNG (which includes RAW data?) or JPEG. The Leica software only allows you to change the color space of JPEG's. I thought the white balance didn't really matter as it could be adjusted in post individually or globally? Thanks for the reply!@@tv510
@@MichaelSaylor-l8x Lightroom and Photoshop will let you change it. I just try to get all my devices and programs to be in the same color space, so I don't get warnings when I am compositing images that one won't match another. Good info to know.
thank you I had my camera color space on srgb and I did not know I could change it to adobe which I now did, is there a reason why you don't choose for profoto rgb in photoshop and lightroom?
Yes, for me, I used Prophoto and found I had troubles when I sent out images to print. Your case may be different, but I stopped using it.
@@tv510 thanks I never heard of that but I also never print (so far) thanks for your answer, your video's are great
Very informative video. Great work. I have one question. I use lightroom classic and photoshop. In lightroom mine is set to prophoto rgb (this is the recommended choice) message shows. If i wanted to change to adobe rgb(1998) it shows (adobe color space cannot encompass the full range of colors available within lightroom, etc) Should i just set both to adobe(1998) instead of prophoto? 🤔Will it make any noticable different? thank you 🙂
Hi Dreamship, I have found that indeed I started with Prophoto RGB and over time, I saw the same message and figured I wanted more colors! However, I had strange results from images I sent to my professional printer. Since I have set up for Adobe RGB, no problems. Just my take.
@@tv510 thank you for your answer. I dont print yet, only social media. I will change and lets see what happens. Thanky you again👍
@@tv510 - I took 3 printing workshops this year from Moab paper and from Canon. Canon sent their top ICC profiler to teach the class and in all three cases, we were told to use Adobe RGB. We were shown color charts showing the difference between sRGB, Adobe RGB and Prophoto RGB and then told that human eyes cannot see all of the colors of Prophoto anyway, so don't bother with it. It would be the equivalent of buying speakers that could produce 1-100,000Hz.
@@shamanbeartwo3819 Great info right there, thank you!
Hi, Terry!
When shooting in RAW, the color space in the camera is meaningless; in fact, the binding of the RAW-image to one of the color standards occurs at the output of the RAW converter.
Let me repeat a little differently: a RAW file has no color space in principle. Therefore, when shooting in RAW it doesn't matter what color space is set in the camera.
Thanks for watching. Keeping colorspaces the same across all devices, works well. If you happing to shoot Jpeg, you will be covered.
Raw image have not a color space
I got to cover all the bases whether people are shooting jpeg or raw. Thanks for watching.
And in addition, if you want to post your jpgs with AdobeRGB straight to the web, this will usually lead to issues without reconverting them to sRGB in advance. So sRGB is always the safe way to go.
We love more Affinity Photo not old Adobe products
Thanks for the idea, I'll check out Affinity one of these days.