Shadowlands Afterlives: Bastion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Uther the Lightbringer, Paladin of the Silver Hand, met an untimely demise ... but his service is not done. When he passes into the afterlife, Devos - a Paragon of Bastion - takes Uther under her wing, only to learn that some mortal wounds run deeper than she could imagine.
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"He was... *MY* student..."
God bless Michael McConnohie for the voice of Uther. That shriek of pain as his soul was torn apart and the dramatic emphasis he puts into the lines adds so much weight to everything that is said.
Michael McConnohie is the man who voiced him dating back to WC3.
💯
I think Uther is realizing deep down he is making a mistake as he trained arthas and as such it was his failure that led to Arthas falling. Remember Arthas' own soul was stolen by frostmourne and he was not incontrol of his actions afterwards.
@@krel3358 no doubt we'll be going to the maw the try and redeem Arthas's soul
Not only a student, he consider Arthas as his own nephew
Shadowlands: Soul stealing is a very serious crime
Warlocks and Death knights: *gulp*
Yeah, I might rethink becoming part of the Venthyr Covenant as Warlock and Deathknight. xD
Death Knights: Y'all hear sum?
its less soul stealing, and more permanent damage was delivered to the soul from a physical object.
Demon Hunters too, actually.
The impression I got was that Frostmourne wounded people's souls, which was an unforgivable act. Death knights just resurrect empty husks. Warlocks, however...
Thought they retconned at first but you can see one part of his soul going into the blade and another going to Shadowlands. We meet the soul fragment in the blade in Icecrown during WotLK and here we see the other part. Looks like something similar to Varian's soulsplit happened here where the two fragments take on different personalities as the fragment within the blade ended up forgiving Arthas and the part that went to Bastion was hellbent on revenge. That's why he couldn't ascend. The part of him that should've made it possible was missing.
Interesting theory..... I'm liking this comment. It deserves to be on the top.
I wonder if there's 2x parts to Sylvanna's soul?
I’m thinking it’s part of him being a Paladin. He was filled with such light power to put up a strong fight against Arthas. Maybe his connection to the light was strong enough that it split his soul when he was killed with frostmourne
Exactly what I was thinking.
To add on this basis, I believe Ner'zhul created Death Knights from Paladins exactly of this reason - because some Paladins like Uther could not be completely consumed by the Lich King at all due to Light. Probably the Eredar that made Ner'zhul into Lich King knew this too. So unable to convert Paladins into his own he had to convert them into creatures of Vengeance, Death Knights.
I thought his soul was split into light and "anima stuff", and went to the shadowlands after the blade was broken ( time is different there so...), would make sense a shadowlands related item only being able to capture a "shadowlands intended thing" the soul I mean.
What I'm worried about is one of the murlocs I've killed ascending and yeeting me into The Maw.
As it turns out, Murloc genocide is the only way to true salvation.
Murky will do it
lol you copied this exactly word by word from someone else's comment.
luckily they all go into the Maw, so don't worry, you 're safe
Murlocs go to their own realm
"There is no evil in Bastion" sounds a lot like "There is no war in Ba-Sing-Se"
I KNEW THAT SOUNDED FAMILIAR😂😂😂
I was like: "where have i heard this before"
There is no good. No evil. Only MORALLY GRAY.
You've been invited to Lake Laugai
What war?
LMAO, I'm rewatching Avatar, this is perfect
I'm glad they're still using the original voice actor for Uther from Warcraft 3 even though it's been almost 20 years.
It's cool when companies do things like that. Beamdog invited David Warner to come back and reprise his role in Baldur's Gate: Siege at Dragonspear.
Made me want to squeal out how many lights I saw when I heard his voice.
Same in the German version 😍
Hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
Glad he could make it
Makes me wonder why they never got Arthas from Wc3 back for Wow
I honestly thought Uther wouldn't throw him. But dang he did.
Right? I thought they would be setting up some kind of redemption arc for Arthas. And honestly so pumped they didn't. Bring back the dark side of WoW.
JUSTICE
Bro, Arthas, even the control of Nerzhul, willingly let himself be used as a weapon of destruction. He killed his father, destroyed his kingdom, doomed most of the population to the curse of undeath, used the ash urn of his father as a way to revive Kel'Thuzad, killed his teacher, and then wounded/stop a part of his soul. Even after that, he kept seeking more destruction. Ik that Arthas' issue is very complex but his lack of will to resist taking the easy way out to save his people led him down a path where Uther's decision is justified.
Never liked Uther. IMO, he was always blind to everything that didn't align with his view of the world, and remained that way after death
@@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ What the blade did to Uther also happened to all other souls claimed by Frostmourne - So basically there are thousands of souls who were pierced by the blade.
"What do you have to say for yourself, boy?"
"Glad you could make it, Bluether"
"Alright, into the maw you go."
Underated comment
i laughed so hard
haha
lmao for a good min well played
dude I was sobbing a bit after him saying "He was my student" and then I read this lmfao, gg wp
Do it throw him in
"I-i shouldn't... it's not the paladin way"
Dew it
It seems like Uther is now Anakin and this new order acts as Palpatine.
i had more of a isildur cast it into the fire vibe
-DESTROY HIM.
-NO
-UTHER!
the paladin way is against vengeance, he did it for justice like he said
"Yes, yeeees very good"
"Remember, Arthas. We are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do."
Uther -2002
Justice tho 👌🏻
Retribution, guys 😉
But justices demands retribution!
Man, I love where Uther’s story is going! I love that they’re giving him additional character growth and flaws that actually make sense with his story. I really like this turn of events.
LOL. Okay. Sure. "Strike with great vengeance!" ~ totally not uther 2003 (warcraft 3)
This cinematic is just way too good for this expansion.
Exactly 🤣
oof - it's true and it burns
Well said and observed!
The lore started off so strong and it crashed and burned worse than anyone could imagine
still remembering how hard this cinematic hyped me for the expansion...
"Remember, Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do. If we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, then we will become as vile as the Orcs."
He got real PTSD
Yet vengeance is inseparable part of a paladin's way.
It's not vengeance. It's justice!
What Arthas did on his first expedition in Northrend to hunt down Mal'Ganis called vengeance as well.
Faaacts!~
He lose half soul, he's half uther, he's lost! (My english sucks, sorry u.u)
The way he says "He was my student" conveys so much hurt & feelings of betrayal, it hurts my heart. That's some top notch voice acting right there!
When he says it after Devos sees the Arthas vision nearly breaks me. I feel Uthers VA must've put some real pain into that line, because oof.
agreed
He is indeed a great voice actor. If I'm not mistaken, it's Michael McConnohie. He also voices the Lich King ironically.
@@INNIPIE looking him up, he also did Deathwing, Magni, and Kel'thuzad. But dude, he's been in the anime industry since the freaking 80s. Man has quite the repertoire.
@@Dimumouto yea he's fantastic, one of my favourite.
Those musical callbacks to "Invincible" peeking through gave me uncontrollable goosebumps every time...
To me too, the musical piece is excellent.
Same. I even cried Sharm. Cried!
-by Vardulis
F A T H E R I S I T O V E R ?
Sharm
I know, it was so perfectly implemented. Even if you hate everything else, I don’t think anyone could deny that these cinematics they make are prefect
When Uther hesitates. "He was.....my student." Gets me every time.
Dude, the artists NAILED his expressions there. The contemplation, the look of regret and consideration of mercy, then Devos whispering "Remember what he did and take your vengeance" and THEN the crazed look of wrath? 😗👌 I would watch these things for days if Blizz made more of them.
Right in the feels man.
@@shasta_creates I already am spamming them. It can't get any worse at this point.
Ahh yes, reminds me of the first two chapters of the human campaign of warcraft 3 RoC.
I think he wanted to say son
That scream Uther let’s out when Frostmourne pierces his chest is horrifying.
I was thinking that. Never heard such a cry of agony.
@@Soulrenderxz vesemirs death in the witcher 3
Bith are equally chilling
Uther's VA is fantastic at what he does
For those whom may not know, he's also the VA for Kel'thu-freaking-zad, among a handful of others I won't spoil here ;)
GODLIKE voice acting
And I thought stubbing a toe was painful
The recontextualization of the "I see only darkness before me." line was chilling.
Agreed, this is the kind of retcon that I can totally approve of
That's not a retcon, people don't even know what retcon means smh
@@Mandrarine Definition of retcon from google: (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.
This is literally a retcon.
@@MrSelkies can you really consider it a retcon when we never really knew what happened with Arthas' soul when he died? I feel like this just added more context to it. I kind of see it as the cliche where, if you dont actually see a character die, then that just leaves room to add something later or just leave them "dead".
@@ianhorne9594 If Blizzard planned out this story-line back during WotLK, then it isn't a retcon. If this is something they came up with recently then it is. Pretty sure they came up with this recently.
Sorry Uther, can't let you have him untill he drops Invincible.
true to that.
Have ur like good soul..
got it last week after on and off farming since WotLK
He will still be able to see him though so whats the point
@Francesco Salvia
it will be a 100% drop from Athas in shadowlands haha people will be mental!!
3:34
Legit, that scream from Uther when it cuts back to him being murdered, it’s so spine chilling. So well done. Props to that voice actor.
they say they killed a man irl to make it more realistic
The only other memorable death scream I can think of is Raziel from Legacy of Kain, in the abyss.
Not only murdered, but having his soul ripped in half. The VA nailed the scream right on the head
@@bleakraven Yeeeeeeesssss, that's first one i ever took notice of, as "dang, nice scream bro" when i was a kid
Let's hope he doesn't get cancelled anytime soon
"I see ...only darkness before m-...no wait it's Uther and a flying angel!"
Tirion and Raid: "wtf is he talking about"
@xoobo vola reusing old beloved characters looks more like an act of desperation imo
He saw the maw, not the spirit healers, they straight up teleported back into the empty space in the shadowlands and flew a little to the maw. Uther also saw Bastion and not his angel that ferried him
@@Azureght I like it, the new ones suck anyways .... nostalgia time
@@Azureght Well, what would make more sense if you go into the realm of the dead?
Arthas: I wonder if he forgives me
Uther: *YEET*
LMAO!!!!! 10/10
🤣🤣🤣
DUDE hahahahahahahahahha
As he falls down: It was just a prank broooooooooooo.....
lmao
"There is no evil here."
"There is no war in Ba Sing Se."
You know a week ago I wouldn't have got that but now.................I understand
@@thelordoftimekirk6317 welcome to the people who know 😥
Uhhh. I understand that now :D
"No one is conscripting airbenders in Ba Sing Se"
Thought the same line too. Love Avatar.
"Remember Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do"
-Uther, wc3
They sacrified the warcraft soul for the money. They know people are still nostalgic for w3 and Arthas story, so they will milk it as much as possible.
"No..not vangeance, JUSTICE"
I hope the soul of Uther that was trapped in the blade, manages to meet up with this broken Uther, and convince him to do what he (the trapped) did: Forgive Arthas, and remember the student he was, and not the monster he became.
Since they showed in this cinematic that his soul was split, I still have hope.
@@0That_Guy0 he did justice not vengueance
@@Itachixg Just because he calls it justice, doesn't mean it is justice. He made it personal, and you can't judge anything right when you make it personal - That's also the point with the Bastion and their teachings from what we know so far. This broken Uther and his paragon buddy are taking "justice" into their own hands, and dealing out judgement as they see fit from their personal point of view. Uther calls it "justice", but that's simply to excuse and justify his lust for vengeance. It's a very typical and human thing to do.
You also see Uther struggling with the choice right before he drops him, but the paragon is seething with hate and urges him to throw Arthas into the Maw. She's kind of the Devil on his shoulder. The part of Uther struggling with condemning Arthas was basically the part that won out in the Uther trapped in Frostmourne; the part that chose to forgive and forget. Judgement was not for him to decide.
The Uther in Frostmourne stayed true to the way of a Paladin of the Light, whilst the Uther in Bastion got screwed by his own Paragon and led on a path of vengeance.
*THIS ENTIRE BASTION MUST BE PURGED*
- Arthas 2020
Make the Shadowlands great again
lol for their blind stupidity ? indeed purge is in order
Arthas
Imagine him getting corrupted again and destroying the bastion. I feel like blizzard is giving a reason to have him come back.
@@bushka1172 late game redemption arc, maybe.
"Tyrael, Archangel of Justice liked this video."
Oh man I hope Tyrael is like a hidden, unannounced reveal in this expansion.
@Loser 123 Good, keep politics out of video games :)
@Loser 123 Do you get one for saying Biden 2020? If so then it's all good.
You know... what if bastion isn't heaven but is a plane of heaven like in diablo. Like a archmage plane.
That was not Justice. Tyrael'd never approve that decision.
"Do you have anything to say for yourself boy?"
"GLAD YOU COULD BAKE IT UTHER"
"okay into the Maw you go"
BLUETHER
*ding*
It's done!
Oh gosh it is so late in germany but I'm sitting in my flat right now, laughing way to hard.
I am pretty sure at least ONE of my neighbours heard me! xDDDDD
@Loser 123 yeah, and water is wet
HAhahaa! I like this
Mom: You won't even feel the injection
The kid in the next room: 3:33
oh god
BRUH every time I take my kids for their shots....some Uther down the hall....
Oh lord, I'm getting flashbacks now!
As a nurse I have to admit that this is the best joke I have ever heared :)))))))))))))))))))
Went through the same
This is the first time Arthas hasn't had a neck like a tree trunk and actually looks like a human being. I like it!
How else could you animate uther to hold his neck if arthas had his Chad neck xD
911 = Inside Job (No Planes)
Building 7 ?
@@jeremyleclerc127 True. lol
@@theyredistortingyourrhthym8883 fkn what
@@GuvernorDave Missile only fits in pentagon aswell
No plane there
Can't believe it's been 12 years since we first heard and saw "I see only darkness before me" and now they showed us the true meaning behind it, the kid in me who nolifed WOTLK just got crazy chills.
me too man it pains me when people say retconned etc beacuse this is just flat out great long-term story telling all the pieces coming together.
I KNOOWW RIIIGHT??!?!
its not true meaning behind it, they just came up with it couple years ago and rewrite evrything.
I was like:" it's big brain time"
It was mind-blowing hearing that quote once more
@@Demmortal they obviously had a plan bruh
"he was my student" I don't know why, but it brings a tear to my eyes
I mean, Regardless of what Arthas did. He was still Uther's finest student. That kind of connection is never lost no matter what happens.
Obi-Wan know that u_u
Makes me wonder at all if Blizzard tries to expand on Arthas and make him regret his actions. Sure, the books said he meant to do all that, but it's not like the books have ever been acknowledged in the game before.
We dont know too...
The only thing I would do to add onto this would have been a single moment of Uther hugging Arthas before casting him away with "He was my student" since he was basically a parental figure to Arthas.
5:18 ... even after all these years since ICC the theme (Invincible) still hits like a ton of bricks
Somethings can't and won't die. He ll come back...I can feel it.
I still get tingles down my spine and goosebumps on my arms whenever I hear it....that deep....graceful orchestral music of gentle malevolence is just....mph....chilling.
Lament of the highborne for me
My son..
Seeing arthas lying there uttering his last words made me cry 😭
Arthas while falling into the maw "Icecrown was merely a setback!"
man of culture
Naxxanar was merely a setback. With the Power of the Orb valanar shall get his vengeance xD
As soon as we get Shadowlands Afterlives: Ravendreth we can look forward to a lot more of that meme.
They placed one of the most powerful death knights in the maw? These night lamps called the Kyrians are not very smart.
Frostmourne is gone.
"He was my student" said Uther calmly and with love as he yeeted Arthas into cosmic oblivion.
"cAlMly"
YEET!!
Jesus this has me HOWLING
Then again even though art has story is sad and all, he did deserve going to the maw
YES!!! Best line ever!
3:34 that scream tho. they murdered the man live in studio.
Imagine if they redid the cinematic in Warcraft 3 and had that scream in it.
axe to the head lol
It almost makes me cry. It's so good
we don't talk about that
Uther: "He was my student."
Devos: "Remember what he did, and take your revenge."
Uther: "WHAT? HOW CAN YOU CONSIDER THAT, ITS GOTTA BE SOME OTHER WAY."
HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND, DEVOS?
When we meet this Archon, I hope it'll say "power overwhelming"
good one!
En Taro Tassadar!
foor aiour
My life for Aiur! ... I mean, Ner'zhul!
You made me lol. Ty.
"Remember Arthas, we are Paladins ! Vengeance cannot be a part of what we do."
- Uther, Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos, Human Campaign chapter 2.
He should said that to burn Uther even more. Too bad he's unconscious.
how many times to repeat - justice, not vengeance :)
look another one made it to the water-scrollsage Nola
he said justice, so therefore his action are resonable
I guess Uther wasn't a paladin anymore after he DIED...
Surely there is no way dropping Arthas into the Maw will backfire in any way shape or form.
a way for Blizzard to try and bring Arthas back I guess?
Obviously. ;-)
@@billylee4460 Redemption arc hands down Arthas should have his whole soul now since frostmourne was destroyed.
@@billylee4460 and like Illidan, he will come back as a good guy/hero.
@@thebl4ckd0g illidan has always been the good guy, but that would be cool to see arthas back on the good side
Devos: Your soul is wounded?
Illidan: Tis' but a scratch
I am my scars!
'tis only a soul wound!
Yeeeeee.
When he says "He was my student"
There is so much pain and anger at the same time.
I feel much anguish in his voice, like he is sad for the path arthas took
For a moment I thought he wouldn't drop him, and wish this happened to see what could happen then
I think there was some self-reflection in those words. In a sense, Uther's motivation to punish Arthas is the same mindset that drove Arthas to Northrend in the first place (in pursuit of justice). Whether it was right or wrong is subjective, but I definitely feel like Uther was taking some responsibility there.
Simillar with Obi-Wan and Anakin
Tearjerking
“He continues to demand retribution for his death...” “And this concerns you? I mean, he is a Retribution Pally, that’s kinda their thing...”
Maybee witha good group hé wouldn t have died 😊
@@Darkandi457 maybe he tried retri tank a lot :D
@@lukasmakula7781 wrong stuff again ahhahaha
Uther had the Libram of Justice. It was Tirion who was given the Libram of Retribution.
@@nimander5483 Justice demands retribution!
"We may never know, Uther. I intend to live forever."
Bro, was just remembering that line as Uther died.
an karanir thanagor
Players: Say sike right now
they could add this line its very wasted opurnity
Well, that's what he intended, doesn't mean that he will live forever.
Devos: Your soul is wounded?!
Uther: I AM MY SCARS!!!
Uhh, i think it's a wrong uther 🤣🤣
IM crying LMAO
Know someone who know this feelin.
Illidan: nice
Uther: He was...he was my student-
Arthas: i still wont drop invincible-
Uther: *drops him*
And shadowmourne
@@deathmamba6159 shadow mourns is a quest line not a boss drop
Uh justice
I cackled at this
DeathMamba yeah shadowmourne requires a quest line that has parts that cannot be soloed.
Uther’s scream as he’s impaled by Frostmourne and his soul leaving his body is chilling to the bone 🥶🥶
Grama Alexandru i know 😭
It honestly sounded like they pulled Michael McConnohie's soul from his body to get that scream.
Reminds me of Varian's scream as he was disintegrated. Actual, legitimate pain in those screams.
That voice. was so perfect. It truly captures how forsaken and pained he felt at that moment.
It's so chilling having something so horrible happen to a good man. Uther represented the ideals of Lordaeron, and the gentle strength of the Light. He didn't deserve this, which makes his pain cut all the more deeply.
@@ianwhelan-miller90 no one deserved that not even Arthas who got controlled
"Uther..."
"Where..where am I?"
"Welcome to Overwatch"
I thought eternal suffering means Heroes of the Storm
@@LycheusDow Exactly
@@LycheusDow Yes
''HEROES OF THE STORM!''
@@El_Crazyknight Uther never deserved to suffer he gave his life for the innocents!
Uther's voice actor is just awesome, the way he sounds whenever he remembered what Arthas did was heartbreaking.
Also the scream when he is being killed... damm
I'm so happy Michael McConnohie has remained Uther's VA since WC3. I love the gravitas he brings to every line.
He sounds pretty bad imho.
@@zzBaBzz beauty is in the eye of the beholder, sir.
Probably you find other VA’s much more appealing and it’s totally respectable. What voices have you liked before? Probably that’s why you don’t like Uther’s, because he’s not the kind of actors you usually enjoy listening to 🤔
@@johanurdiales7356 It's very much objective. :-)
Original Uther voice actually suits him. This one is your typical low budget constipated neverlettingtheirteethseparate growlers. No depth, no range.
The same change they did to Illidan's voice. Travesty.
"Father! Is it over?"
"Not yet my son, Blizzard stills needs money."
LMAO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish at least this time they make him great
Sooo accurate it hurts.
the truth hurts
Yes my son
Shadowland’s citizens: What cha got there?
DKs with their weapon transmoged to the Blades of the Fallen Prince: Smoothie
An icarley meme? Nice! Also : GIBBY!!!
I hope there is an easter egg of some kind when you are showing that weapon appearance or if you take them to someone.
I mean, Arthas definitely did a Gibby from Uthers hand
Conner360 that was my childhood right there
We fight for the maw king now 😈
"you were suposed to destroy the undead, not join them!"
Uther : My powers has doubled since the last time we met, Arthas
@@danielblitzke3909 "strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you could ever imagine"
Dame da ne
He was the best Paladin in Azeroth, and a cunning warrior. And he was a good friend
@c0smic nice Star Wars refference :D
Death knight armed with the blades of the fallen prince: "The power of the maw in hand, you say? Runes, you say? Oh, gosh. Um. That would be real bad, wouldn't it." *shifts awkwardly, hides runeblades*
What me? Nah, I'm good haha, don't worry *secretly throws runeblades into the maw*
*Shoos deathcharger away out of sight*
Meanwhile, my Death Knight in the Maw: Okay, time to get you fixed! Starts reforging Frostmourne properly.
Everyone: Nah Uther won't kill him
Uther: GOODBYEEE JOJOOO
Kill ??
@@shankarpandey5047 I meant drop but whatever the joke still works
I wasnt ready for JoJo reference here but goddamm xDDDDDDDDDD
Good grief.
You thought I was Uther, BUT IT WAS ME DIO!
The scene where Arthas is just laying there gives me goosebumps.
With the Arthas/WotLK theme music callback? So good.
@@rachaelsims6625 Back when they game was actually good.
@@rachaelsims6625 I got goosebumps when that musical piece started, in the very first second of vocals. So iconic. 10 years of a storyline coming to and end and they could not have used a better piece. It just communicates everything it should. Sorrow, regret, resolution, and how far we've come. This was one of the most moving lore-related thing Blizzard has released in a long time, no surprise it's a WotLK callback.
Going back and watching the fall of the lich king cinematic knowing everything we know now brings up all the feels
@Nanno Girl from nowhere No he didn't.
Everyone: "So Bastion are the good guys, right?"
Blizzard:
Yeah def a 180 there
@@Adradiauwu definitely the good guys.
I reckon they are still the good guys, only with rigid outdated ways
The world is multidimensional. Grow up kids, it’s not a two-side coin 🤣🤣
Let’s defeat the Archon 🤣
Seeing Arthas in such detail, aged with stubble, scars and bags under his eyes really gives perspective of time in this game
I agree, also the decay of bearing that burden. It's so beautiful. They seem to always nail the story when it comes to Arthas' arc. So much love put into it, and it really shows. Part of me always wants Arthas to be part of the story, but I know times change, and we can't beat that dead horse forever.
What do you mean "aged," he died when he first put on the Helm of Domination.
He is portrayed with bags under his eyes since warcraft 3 lol, since he became corrupted by the Frostmourne
@@Riwillion not really lol
Got goosebumps when the lich kings music started playing.
Samee
Absolutely, brings back memories ...
After not playing BfA after the first raid, this made me pre-purchase the expansion. Blizzard knows how to trigger, for sure. The same as in the Realm Of Torment cinematic.
Yeah man, the most climatic music ever
An Karanir Thanagor
0:16 wait a minute, you can't train abominations in this mission
Lmao good point.
Either that or one those footmen/knights must've been really tall.
straight facts right here
Uther can Arthas was stupid
AnOtHeR bLizZaRd InCoNsIsTeNcY!
So Arthas was artificially sent to the Maw without being judged for his deeds by the Arbitrer. I sure hope Blizzard will stay consistent with this throughout the expansion the very least.
Same
It's because Uther and Devos essentially went rogue and judged him themselves.
Not only that, I think this is the inciting incident for the whole expansion.
I'm sure you are that player that only check bits of pieces of lore and with it judge the whole expansion.
Devos and Uther turn into Forsworn Kyrians, the rogue Kyrians that refuse to shed their past memories
@@kilmordencastle ah you had to spoil it for everyone XD. gg wp
Turns out this was pure lore bait. 9.2 did Arthas dirty.
fr
Context
YOU SHALL NOT FALL TODAY MY KING
35 anima btw
yeah blame danuser.
Be careful who you stab with a soul-stealing blade in high-school.
ON GOD ! >:]
@@sylvanaswindrunner3757 Nice profile picture
@@maximososa8798 Thank you bébé, I pulled my best smile. ☺
@@sylvanaswindrunner3757 WHy dO YoU BuRn tHe TrEe?!
@@sonicomegamaster4223 What tree? I don't know anything about any trees (?
The worst part is that if Arthas had been brought to the Arbiter, he may not have been sent to the Maw. It was very likely, but he could've instead been sent to Revendreath or another realm that would've made him atone for his sins. That's the most heartbreaking thing, that they never even gave Arthas a chance at redemption, they just threw him away
Who knows. Maybe he will return in some way and get a redemption like illidan
I'm betting by the end he's going to be redeemed since pretty much all his evil acts were done under the influence of Frostmourne(except for betraying the mercenaries), and while he was Lich King the remnants of Arthas' consciousness actually held back the Scourge from obliterating Azeroth.
@@invictus7736 while frostmourn did control him for some time, he very much allowed himself to fall to it's control. He may be redeemed but he still had to answer for all he did, and all he ended up allowing frostmourn to do
Arthas was warned about the path he was following very early. There's some subtleties to what Kel'thuzad was saying to Arthas before Stratholme as well. Even before he took Frostmourne and "forfeited" Muradin's Life to even pick up the Runeblade.
@@Mstanaturalselection He allowed himself to take on the curse believing it'd curse his own soul but ultimately save his homeland and his people. If anything claiming Frostmourne was noble.
Everyone: He's not gonna throw him, it's not a very uther-thing to do.
Uther: *YEET*
Everyone: *surprised pikachu face*
I almost choked on my Corn Chex when I was reading this comment.
I dont want Uther to be vengeful, I want him to save his soul. :(
@@TheChrysaora In this video he wasn't vengeful. Arthas was beyond forgiveness. This was retribution. He clearly had doubts at the end, so he was even still considering forgiveness, but decided that regardless of his feelings, Arthas deserved punishment.
@@CaptainIcebeard He deserved punishment, but not of this measure, of eternal damnation and suffering. Arthas was only trying to help his people until the whispers from Frostmourne corrupted him.
We can see him coming to senses after his defeat in ICC. What he did as undead king.... it wasnt him.
@@CaptainIcebeard Arthas did nothing wrong. The first soul that Frostmourne took was his.
This is beyond sad. The part of Uther's soul that was trapped within Frostmourne chose to forgive Arthas, and remember the student he was and not the monster he became. I hope the two souls of Uther meet up somehow, and that this broken Uther will be mended/convinced by the Uther from the blade; and to let go.
this comment aged well
@@ChilliDogDavewhat happened ???
@@rathzo1800 Bad Uther betrayed the bad guys after finding out they were serving the Maw, finds out his soul is split, the players help him join his fragmented soul, he relives his death, and then joins the blue people
Can we take a moment to appreciate Michael McConnohie as a voice actor?
That scream when his soul is riped!!
Chilling indeed
@@Xivix427 and the arthas music in the back!! can't wait for someone to put just the music up
@Nicolai Larsen yes, "Arthas, my son" but clearly different version, trust me i have a hear for Warcraft music
I know! That's like Attack on Titan-level voice acting right there.
That scream was nice, but nothing will ever beat varians death scream :D
"His eternal suffering awaits!"
Ah, so there's Heroes of the Storm down there.
To think about it, the maw did remind me of the nexus a little bit :D
Also Starcraft Ghosts
Hahahaha best comment ever bro omg this made my day
Lul
ohhh ohhohhhhh that was a good one, touche dude.
YOU WERE MY BROTHER ARTHAS!!!
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE UNDEAD, NOT JOIN THEM
I HATE YOU!
But Uther had the low ground
@@NitroPulsar But he had the MORAL HIGHGROUND.
Uther considers Arthas as his own nephew
It's over, Arthas! I have Consecration!
6:25 Unlike Invincible, Arthas did drop.
this comment is underrated
Clap clap clap
Insert "Shia Lebouf in the theater slowly clapping" scene.
Side note: this IS Uther’s voice actor from Warcraft III you’re not mistaken.
Upon further research, the voice actor’s a powerhouse(face it, which voice actor in these video games and shows isn’t one?) but he’s voices kel thuzad, uther in war3 and the expansions when they revisit those characters and even the lich king throughout Wrath and deathwing too!
It’s crazy awesome how long this guy’s been at it!
Also warriv in diablo 2
K Karall That, and the Necromancer.
"Your curiosity will be the death of you." KT
Holy smokes, I never would have known they were all the same person. I'm gonna listen out for it now. The only one I really recognize doing multiple characters is Jim Cummings, the guy that voiced Winnie the Pooh.. I know they use him in World of Warcraft a LOT.
@@kristenkidd3982 Steve Blum, Jennifer Hale, Phil Lamarr and Chris Metzen probably voice half of WoW XD
Even after what he did, i've felt sadness seeing how Uther senteces him in to the Maw.
His soul was corrupted after claiming Frostmourne, it’s not 100% on him. Stratholme is on him that’s about it.
Probably would’ve gone there anyway. No evil spirits told him to murder an entire city, or burn boats, or slaughter allies when they weren’t useful anymore.
@@Clorgisclorg he was the necessary evil in order to curb the plague before it got out of hand. Otherwise it was let everyone become undead and strengthen the ranks of the scourge
@@Clorgisclorg Arthas has been broken at that point. He saw an unstopable enemy and he lost his mental health in the war. Thats why he killed. He wasnt himself.
@@Clorgisclorg an entire city full of people infected with a plague that had no cure which would turn them into undead that would potentially hurt even more innocent people.
"Who did this to you!?"
*MOM MODE ENGAGED*
she went full commando mom
Ayethe camomdo
RET CON MODE ENGAGED
*CRYING CAT FACE*
"H- He was my _sniff_ student!"
RED ALERT SOVIET MARCH. ._.)
"Where....where am I?"
*"Welcome to the Nexus, hero!"*
Vindictive/vengeful angels are terrifying.
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“Would you really want to meet an angel? Eternal servant of the Lord with one wing forever dipped in blood?”
Sounds very neckbeard tbh
ah, fellow Name of the Wind fan :)
They should be the most terrifying, pray you never deserve their righteous Justice.
"...nothing in the world is harder than convincing someone of an unfamiliar truth"
Book 3 when
Uther: "He was my student... I.... I will give him at least a chance....."
Arthas: "Glad you could bake it, Uther"
Uther: "Alright.... off The Maw you go!"
lol
"glad you could bake it uther"
"dont use that tone with me Arthas, you may be a cook but i am still your superior as a chef"
The breadening(breaddening? In all it’s glory 😂
Dammit Uther, as your future Masterchef I order you to sprinkle the cake!
How could he forghetti?
Batman: "I am vengeance."
Uther: "Not vengeance... Justice."
He’s both. Also the night.
@@TheClarkBark You beat me to it! i was so gonna say I am the night... I am Batman!!!!!
You speak of justice, of cowardice?
I will show you the justice of the grave, and the true meaning.. of fear!
@@Themperror1 Jesus!!!
Tyrael would be proud
5:22 I was 11 the first time I heard this theme. I am 22 now. It's existed for half of my lifetime and it still gives me goosebumps :]
Relatable
when 'Arthas My Son' kicks in oof.. ima need a minute
My gut shot comes when the original lich king OST starts playing around 3 minutes, godamn.
still 1 of the best expansions
Yesssss.....And i think he'll be back
An... Karanir... Thanagor....
@@Cro1232cro The song is so sad but badass enough to make Arthas back for all of us🤧
I am ready for another An..Karanir.thanagor but this time its pure Arthas🥳
IT WAS UTHER HIMSELF ALONG WITH DEVOS WHO MADE IT SO THAT ARTHAS SAW ONLY DARKNESS BEFORE HIM AND TOSSED HIM RIGHT IN THE MAW. AMAZING CINEMATIC HOLY POG
They connected it good
wow you managed to tell us what we can see in the cinamatic.
im lost, can you explain? I dont really know wow lore.
@@isawdavis At the end of WOTLK and killing the lich king(arthas) His last words were "I see, Only darkness, before me" so it's foreshadowing what happened in the sidelines of when he officially died by our hands(and tirion) back sometime in 2010. So they connected the consistency fairly well in this regard.
@@isawdavis When you die you normally go to a realm in the Shadowlands that closely represents your beliefs, for example most Druids go to Ardenweald, where they become animal spirits that aid in the eternal cycle of regrowth of the world, by tending to nature and animal spirits, Selfless people, heroes and justicars go to Bastion, where they forget their mortal lives to become passer for the dead, bringing souls from the mortal realm to the Shadowlands
There's an infinite amount of realms in the Shadowlands, all tailored to specific people, but of course since this is a game we only have access to 5
I'm guessing Arthas felt heavy remorse upon his death, which should have sent him to Revendreth, a realm where souls go to atone for their sins to find peace by accepting them, but Devos and Uther snatched his soul at the moment of his death and threw him in the Maw instead, a realm of eternal darkness that is used to jail the worst of the worst, the unredeemable, the monsters of the world, basically condemning him to everlasting pain and suffering out of "Justice", hence why he sees "only darkness"
"There is no evil in Bastion"
Jailer: "Bonjour"
Jailer is in THE MAW< not Bastion
in the shadowlands
Le Jailleur! I neaux it beaufaire I could smelle jeure stenche! Sou jeu ars behinde suisse! >:O
Jailer isn’t bad, he’s a natural being that was betrayed
@@Wayclarke The Jailer in french is le Geôlier.
“The moment he falls”. That line sticks with me, I love the sheer confidence that eventually he will fail.
"No king rules forever, my son."
Not "fall", but he WILL eventually fall.
The feels... When Uther says 'He was my student'.. so much pain.
"I loved you, Anakin!"
Her line right before that too; a soul being damaged like that is not only rare but also an unthinkable act.
He was _MY_ student...
Like he failed him... Uther is feeling guilty for failing Arthas.
Can't imagine how uther feels now
we’re not talking about Devos’ delivery of “the path is FLAWED!” nearly enough. what a line read.
it was honestly really bad imo, the voice actor sounds like she's constipated
@@hydromancer4916 I think the voice is fine. o_o
Yes she is SUUUPER EPIC
She must be the same voice actress as Sylvanas.
Ngl, first few times I thought she said 'blind' :p
Remeber, Arthas, we are paladins...''
''Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do, if we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, we will become as vile as the orcs.''
For Uther, this is justice for Arthas's atrocities .
Yep, he is as consistent as Jaina and Thrall. Or Saurfang and his "honor" he shift around as he please.
“Justice demands retribution”
@@madzaisa everyone has to reevaluate their ideals once in a while.
"Not vengeance. Justice."
I just hate what we have to do to Devos, and so early in expansion... Such a great character!
Underrated comment. Devos was indeed a great character.
Another example of the cinematic team carrying the whole franchise
"He destroyed my home, murdered my people and my king... He must be punished."
"He got his Invincible mount stolen by a bunch of over-levelled losers going for a transmog run, I think that's enough punishment."
🤣
omg xD
When we go back to ICC to farm invincible are we fighting Arthas or are we fighting Bolvar cosplaying as Arthas?
@@SadistichippoIts Arthas lol. Diferent time diferent ewerything. What is in northrend with purpous it stais in that time no mater from what storry line you com to farm!!!!
Its like. You com from present to paste to farm it caus you feal strong and owergeared.
i didnt steal it yet. 223x2 attempts no mount
The soul being split theory seems to make sense if you think about it.
The soul trapped in Frostmourne learned over time that the Arthas that killed him wasn't truly himself, he was manipulated and basically mindcontrolled and Uther forgave Arthas. The soul that got sent to Bastion only knew that Arthas betrayed the kingdom and killed him. He was never inside Frostmourne and got to experience what really happened to Arthas. After Arthas dying you could say the soul merged with Uther, which is why he suddenly hesitates but Deimos gives Uther the push he needed to sway his judgement and cast Arthas into the Maw.
@Sylvos Salazar How you know that it did not happen? Maybe it went unnoticed, because they forgott there mortal lives for the Bastion, or even got in another Fraction in the shadowlands. There is a short story of sylvanas and how they help here get back in to here live
@Sylvos Salazar Sylvanas's soul didn't pass on, she was raised as undead so her soul is still with her.
Sylvos Salazar Sylvanas is a banshee. Her banshee form is her twisted soul. She was allowed back her body though so technically her entire damned soul is out of Frostmourne
Sylvos Salazar What canon is changed? I don’t understand
Sylvos Salazar 1) The video did not tell us that the soul of everyone is split when stabbed by frostmourne. The lore never mentioned it. This video shows Uther the Lightbringer whispered to the light at the moment of his death. As his soul came out of his body, part of his soul was split and saved explicitly by the light because that half of soul was covered in golden yellow. None of the other souls we saw in game has a yellow color besides Valarjar 2) It’s not logical to say Sylvanas’s soul had also split. Even if she did, we don’t know if she will end up in the bastion out of the four covenants.
"I see.. A big blue woman... Before me..."
"I see... only wokeness... before me..."
I laughed too hard idk why
I seriously couldn’t stop laughing when I read this 🤣
"No King survives on res sickness, my son"
@@Lunsterful so right
They should've done so much more with Devos. She along with Denathrius were the two big highlights of the xpac, and they were both taken out waaay too early.
On the brightside Denathrius has been kept alive so he will return.
it's even worse than this - players who were never Kyrian barely even know who Devos was. Absolutely criminal.
They killed off Devos and admitted she was right smh
What about Nathanos the Forgotten ? x)
"Justice demands retribution!" Uther - Every 5 minutes
because Bliz never gave Ret pallys a chance after 3.3...
@@mish7727Ret was beast in Legion and Mists imo
I wonder...
It's on a cooldown.
The way Arthas looks like after death... So calm... so innocent...
I am guessing that Arthas will get help from the players to get out of the Maw and eventually save the Shadowlands.
@@denome3725 that would be an awesome redemption arc! And getting a chance to see noble and honorable Arthas as he has been before Frostmourne corrupted him. He would probably feel terrible for all of the things he has done, he said he is sorry and give himself to the Maw willingly.... Beautiful!
just picture arthas as the new Arbiter, now that would be some good redemption.
@@Justaguywithglassesok I think he'd be better as the Jailer. I think he felt true regret for what he did before his corruption and blamed himself for what happened afterwards so choosing to remain behind in the Maw as penance and to ensure no one ever does what the current Jailer is doing again would be a fitting end to his story.
@@AussieRider20 hmm i agree
*Arthas while being choked by Uther*
Arthas: "Glad that you made it, Uther."
*Uther throws Arthas down the maw pissed off*
*Glad I could make it, Arthas*
Watch your tone with me, boy. You may be dead, but I'm still your superior as a Kyrian.
@@MandatoryHandle "Shut up Uther"
@@MandatoryHandle As if I could forget. Listen, Uther. There's something about the Maw you should know.
That “epic orchestral music” subtitle killed all the drama and made me smile
Hearing "Arthas, My Son" and seeing Arthas, either in the Wraith of the Lich King trailer or the in-game cinematic where we defeat him, always hits me in the feels... always.
And take your vengeance!
Uther: Hmmm... I wonder... Let me think... OH! Justice demands retribution!
The lights justice has failed
@@lordyrich There is only my justice now.
@@BobBob-pz1sd his attack quote is "Fall by my hand"
HS predicted the ending lol
Illidan: Vengeance is mine!
Uther: Not vengeance , Justice.
Illidan: Vengeance!
Uther: Justice.
Illidan: Vengance!
Uther: Justice.
Illidan: Vengeance!
Uthe - well, you get the point.
Victory to Lord Illidan!
maiev: JUSTICE!!!
@Van Do I will say that illidan has a great personality for what his story is given to him, while arthas has an amazing story and makes his decisions very human in comparison to illidan who is drunk with power to begin with, while arthas was corrupted over time to become drunk with power. (To be fair to illidan, being in prison for 1000+ years can do that to a person)
Pa-weep graw-naw weep ninni-bung!
everytime i watch this, when Devos asks *WHO DID THIS TO YOU?* and it flashbacks, i get chills of nostalgia
i wont lie.. the extreme sadness in his eyes when he says "he was my student" was heartbreaking. 3:24
Also is cry of pain when his a part of his soul gets trapped in frostmourne...
get a life. a real one!
@@onesi376 Do us a favor and get rid of yours.
Somewhere in Blizzard's office:
-Mr.Kotick our stocks and profit are very low. What do we do?
-Release the Kraken! I mean Arthas...
@Wonder of U pretty sure most of these guys (cause i was one myself) just correlate the revenues per quarter and share prices with their happiness of the content ;)
You forgot about Uther, Kaelthas, Lady Vash and Kelthuzad.
Gotta bank on the nostalgia of old players (which already left)
@Wonder of U i think you missed the point, arthas is blizzards money maker.
@Wonder of U do you not realize that blizzard hit 12 million subs when icc went live, because of the fact that all the fans were waiting to fight the lich king, he is literally blizzards golden boy.
@@Destroyer2150 i play since classic and i still play retail ...classic sucked so much compared legion bfa and now shadowlands :)
There are so many more oldschool players that enjoy retail wow
Imagine how differently this might've played out if the Archon said "Just in case, though... someone go check the gate on the Maw and make sure it's still locked."
Perhaps She does know and that fits into her plans
She already knows, all the Death Pantheon knows of this because all the souls that are judged by arbiter, have their memory records sent to the Death Pantheons. It is same as everywhere, those in the leadership position will always hide some major problems from their underlings. On one side, it protects their position, on the other side, it gives them the opportunity to root out troublemakers, Devos for example in this scenario. Archon said "You will abandon this course." She never said that she doesn't acknowledge the danger or she would not do anything about it. Every word Archon said has great meaning and importance. Devos turning to the Jailer is a direct effect of ignoring the path and Archon's warning.
@@toraryoung There also the need not to start a panic. After all, demons, whose souls they can't claim, can just walk into the maw and ask for weapons to be made that rips away souls.
Guessing the name Archon is a reference to the Demiurge.
"he murdered my people" well you did kinda just stand by and let him do that instead of, you know, try to stop him.
IM DEAD 💀
He knew it had to be done but he also knew he couldn't bring himself to do it
Hence the choice to walk away
It's an extremely sticky situation - You either
1)Betray the crown prince, essentially commit treason, and thus cause the blight to spread across Azeroth, killing everyone'
or the much easier choice
2)Walk away
"What do you have to say for yourself, boy?"
"Glad you could make it, Bluether"
"Alright, into the maw you go."
But really, deep down we all know that Uther knew that Arthas was spitting straight facts. He had to raze Stratholme to rubble before the people got bitey and infectious.
He was talking about the whole of lordaeron
Oh man seeing Arthas' death gave me chills. The music, man. This was beautiful.
I adore the Arthas music, it's so haunting and feels so lonely yet beautiful.
Same song as in the WOTLK trailer.
@@fezzverbal for real. a decade later and it's still relevant