Picard: "O'Brien, if your fix on the away team wavers in the slightest..." O'Brien: "Captain, we sent half the senior cast down there. Nothing can fire through that plot armor."
The double fist swing is an action show device to minimize injury to both attacker and target. The force of the blow is spread out. It’s obviously not a realistic-looking technique, though.
The scene of metal and wire on the Borg ship actually regenerating as if it's living tissue is something that's been lost on any other Borg related episodes in any Star Trek series.
Yeah that would be one of the Major losses that end up being something(at that i'd consider) kind of big. The little Robot bugs in Picard seemed way out of place, like why even bother with drones at that point. Considering "Borg nanoprobes" were a thing I feel like Picard would have been smarter to have done an updated version of this Scene instead of the robot bugs.
@@trebot9292266 There's no reason a cube couldn't use both swarms of macro-scale drones for large-scale repairs and nano probes for higher precision jobs, like sealing microfractures and such.
@@LeftoverSundriesMan well the macro scale drones would be the Borg drones we've come to know. The fully machine bugs that only came up in Picard just seem out of place. What's the point in the Organic stuff at that part.
Early in the series the Borg were interested in the technology and weren't very interested in the organisms they encountered. They had their own babies and implanted them with technology very early. Like we do with our children. "I'm buying you a cellphone for emergencies and so I can contact you when I need to".
Man. Just look at how different the Borg and their ship looked back then. They evolved so much over the years but the creepy atmosphere in this episode was never beaten
Agreed, Star Trek massively over used the Borg and reduced them from the ultimate nightmare to baddie of the weak (yes I intentionally spelt it wrong).
3:55 the away team wasn't even fully materialized on the bridge .... Picard just dropped all formalities: let's get the hell out of here ..... Warp 8! now Mr. Crusher .... engage!
I love how the crew beams aboard the Borg ship and start pushing buttons. This is what a child would do. Randomly pushing buttons can get you killed. No one with any science or technical training would dare do that.
Not necessarily true. I was a lot more apprehensive about pushing buttons before being a scientist. Typically buttons are not suicide buttons or self destruct mechanisms... Typically 😊
3:45 Holy s*** like the change in the music and Picard's reaction to that update from the away team. The tension is so thick it can be cut with a butterknife. This is why Shakespearian and Method actors are the best out there. Excellent work by both the writers, the composers, and the actors in this. This episode came out as a trifecta tour de force. Little did we know at this juncture we would see even more amazing episodes with the Best of Both Worlds part 1 and 2. Starfleet's best asset would become its worst liability ( Cue the dramatic music!)
2:36 “describe it!” Ah yes, TV years before video calls were as easy as your mobile phone. Now it would be “Riker, how many times do I gotta tell you to stop using portrait mode!”
This is back when they were trying to stick to the concept that the first officer leads away teams. So when the captain is on the bridge they have to describe everything that's going on.
That music starting at 3:45 .... although brief is some of the absolute finest ever featured in Star Trek, up there with "Stealing the Entperprise" from Search for Spock. I instantly loved it when seeing this episode for the first time as a kid back in 1989, and I still do. To me it's the "Starfleet Battle March", a perfect counterpoint to the Klingon one we hear often in several series. I wish they had developed this piece even more.
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“Tell me what you see,number one!” Oh,if only they had video cameras in the 24th century.
It's not so much that as it is their costumes, which were form fitting. Season three introduced a less tight uniform with an undershirt, which is why everyone looks a little bulkier from that point forward
If the borg were smart and if they really do have millions of these cube ships, they could just attach them a couple hundred together and the federation wouldnt stand a chance against that borg monstrosity
The Borg start out spending the least amount of resources possible when confronting a new race. They sent one ship to try and capture Earth and then another attempting to change history. Guinan talks about how the Borg swept through her people's planets. I think the next step for the Borg would be to send a larger force to attack the Federation. But, with the exception of resources, why bother? They have captured humans and added their biological differences and they have scanned most of the Federation's technology so there's no real reason to continue attacking them until they prove more of a threat.
The Borg improve themselves in two ways one is assimilation of other races combining the genetic and technological potential to the Borg. Or the engage superior species until their technology becomes immune to all forms of assault
Apparently early drafts for the story in "First Contact" had the Borg sending multiple cubes at Earth, and Starfleet fighting them off with a lot of advanced tech. But the film's budget couldn't support it, and it was rewritten to the movie we got.
The Borg was one command function flaw away from assimilating the Federation (and the rest of the Alpha Quadrant would have fell in short order) with ONE cube. The information they assimilated was MORE than sufficient for the Borg until Voyager and First Contact.
I wished there was a more eerie Borg time-line. They were supposed to be the Federations most lethal enemy but turned out to be flimsy and defeated. This episode made them invincible and scary like they should've stayed. It would've been nice if the drones were way more aggressive and had hand held weapons. They would've kicked ass.
The pre-assimilation method of reproduction that the show had is somehow even creepier than changing a person from the inside out. That, and the visual of the cube repairing itself makes me think what Picard said: let's get the Hell out of here.
Just rewatched this, with the wife for the first time. am I the only one that noticed the 5.25" floppy drives mounted on the wall? visible at 0:41, mounted vertically.
Geordi LaForge BY FAR was the most qualified, and Picard specifically had requested Geordi for the Enterprise when he got the captaincy. Outside of series plot (lol) ..... Picard worked his junior staff (i.e. LaForge and Worf) tirelessly to have them ready for opportunities like field promotions .... just like he was on Stargazer. if memory serves me correct .... Geordi was JUST named chief engineer shortly before this episode, and was promoted to Lieutenant Commander shortly after this episode.
It's actually the other way around - usually most ships would have more junior officers in senior roles - it's just because Enterprise was a larger ship.
This was still season 2 - I believe the technical answer is that Geordi was still in an acting capacity and not yet made permanent chief engineer. Recall season 1 there were multiple chief engineers. Picard found none of them suitable and instead positioned Geordi to take that roll. But as a Lt. j.g. he did not yet have time in grade as a full Lt. Thus, he had sit to in this rank on a provisional basis until season 3 when he received full confirmation and the rank that goes with it (Lt. Cmdr) for the level of responsibility needed.
I’ve always loved sojourner truth she’s the most incredible. Even her even her tell us tell us will you about these children he went and hunted up and down the coast for. Color me suspicious😡😍🥰😘😎🤓🥸🤩🥳
The borg studied and adapted to the Enterprises technology when they cut a section of saucer section away and when those drones infiltrated engineering and began interfacing with the ships systems. As for the shields, the borg never showed shield impacts in best of both worlds or in the wolf 359 battle in DS9.
@@dhinton1 I dug it up, and went out and looked (I was being lazy). The episode was Unnatural selection. Yes! he was around for a season and a half as "helmsman' or "conn officer" or "Transporter chief," but they never did have a name for him initially
With the experience, expertise and knowledge of so many assimilated drones surely it would have occurred to the Borg that allowing someone to beam directly into a cube is a security risk?
No diss to UPN's "Voyager" but the Borg were scarier when they were a faceless Collective and "BOBW" counts. To all the morons, given the circumstances, Picard's assimilation made sense. The ending of "Q Who" should make it obvious as to why the Borg were interested in the Federation, but I won't give it out. Something about the ending gave the Borg red flags and triggered their priority of capturing Picard, although part 2 of "BOBW" started the retcon of the Borg being into cultural assimilation. Part 1 didn't seem like that.
Hey Captain, you’ve got to see the stuff it’s amazing. Describe it to me number one. I can do better than that. We could use use the cameras that are built into the com badges then we could…………… oh sorry I’m thinking of the film Aliens. Seriously, why did they not have cameras with them.
There’s a time differential on this isn’t there? It’s like you got sucked out just last week to me you’re just recovering now but this all happened in the past
The elders are starting to realize that anyone can get to anyone and set it and forget it in the thorny thicket. Everyone sleeps at some point. I say this is not really that different it’s just more obvious and much much louder. And it does have some benefits doesn’t it chimps. Like Ai coming to life. I am hoping and wondering if the chimpz & zoo animals are much happier
@@iconoclast137 The Daleks could threaten the entire universe and wipe out entire timeliness The Borg were still skulking in their luttle corner of one galaxy
Gangsta. WWOR (and UPN 9) in New York. The flagship of the real Warner Bros. network cause Tribune's crap wasn't and was less popular than Chris Craft's stomping network.
If I would have been involved with the production of all things Trek since this episode, I would have pushed for the Borg being what they were right here: A totally decentralized entity. No Locutus, no Seven Of Nine, No Hugh , Borg Queen(s)or Vasataor from the novel Vendetta(Very good TNG novel btw). I would held off making them more human like for as long as possible. Isn’t that the point of Star Trek? Seeking out new life and new civilization? Here’s one that is completely alien and totally sinister which makes them all the more mysterious and terrifying. Too many of Star Trek aliens are human like in order for fans to identify with them regardless of whether they’re friend or enemy.
Picard: "O'Brien, if your fix on the away team wavers in the slightest..."
O'Brien: "Captain, we sent half the senior cast down there. Nothing can fire through that plot armor."
This always irked me with every Star Trek series from TOS all the way on up. That and the double clenched fist punch.
The double fist swing is an action show device to minimize injury to both attacker and target. The force of the blow is spread out. It’s obviously not a realistic-looking technique, though.
Tell that to Tasha Yar.
The scene of metal and wire on the Borg ship actually regenerating as if it's living tissue is something that's been lost on any other Borg related episodes in any Star Trek series.
Yeah that would be one of the Major losses that end up being something(at that i'd consider) kind of big. The little Robot bugs in Picard seemed way out of place, like why even bother with drones at that point. Considering "Borg nanoprobes" were a thing I feel like Picard would have been smarter to have done an updated version of this Scene instead of the robot bugs.
@@trebot9292266 There's no reason a cube couldn't use both swarms of macro-scale drones for large-scale repairs and nano probes for higher precision jobs, like sealing microfractures and such.
@@LeftoverSundriesMan well the macro scale drones would be the Borg drones we've come to know. The fully machine bugs that only came up in Picard just seem out of place. What's the point in the Organic stuff at that part.
Early in the series the Borg were interested in the technology and weren't very interested in the organisms they encountered. They had their own babies and implanted them with technology very early. Like we do with our children. "I'm buying you a cellphone for emergencies and so I can contact you when I need to".
Fun fact: they did that visual effect by filming the plastic model being melted with a blowtorch, and playing the footage backwards.
Man. Just look at how different the Borg and their ship looked back then. They evolved so much over the years but the creepy atmosphere in this episode was never beaten
This is the best and scariest version of the Borg.
Except for the part with the babies with Borg implants. That's simply adorable!
@@mmmfloorpie 😆 until they shoot their tube into them “Aww look at the baby..(tube inserts into the neck of Riker) aghhh
I thought the First contact Borg and Voyager borgs looked more menacing and scarier.
@@grundian why would they need a leader if they were all one mind?
Agreed, Star Trek massively over used the Borg and reduced them from the ultimate nightmare to baddie of the weak (yes I intentionally spelt it wrong).
1:03 same Borg that abducts Picard in The Best of Both Worlds. So to answer Rikers question it was the same ship they faced at J25.
3:55 the away team wasn't even fully materialized on the bridge .... Picard just dropped all formalities: let's get the hell out of here ..... Warp 8! now Mr. Crusher .... engage!
Just like when the missus gives orders before you're fully through the door 🤣🤣🤣
I love how the crew beams aboard the Borg ship and start pushing buttons. This is what a child would do. Randomly pushing buttons can get you killed. No one with any science or technical training would dare do that.
Aye, as even Q puts it *"Don't touch what you do not understand!"* after the idiot touches the Borg implant, causing the U.S.S. Righteous to explode.
it's a kid show, so the protagonists will do things kids understand
Not necessarily true. I was a lot more apprehensive about pushing buttons before being a scientist. Typically buttons are not suicide buttons or self destruct mechanisms... Typically 😊
I literally have no idea what else they could do
@@spg1794 Can I safely assume you’re not serious?
This episode is pure cosmic horror.
Was looking for this comment. 100% agreed.
The dramatic sound track..as well @@thefakewitchdoctor
3:45 Holy s*** like the change in the music and Picard's reaction to that update from the away team. The tension is so thick it can be cut with a butterknife. This is why Shakespearian and Method actors are the best out there. Excellent work by both the writers, the composers, and the actors in this. This episode came out as a trifecta tour de force. Little did we know at this juncture we would see even more amazing episodes with the Best of Both Worlds part 1 and 2. Starfleet's best asset would become its worst liability
( Cue the dramatic music!)
100% correct, this was ABSOLUTE KINO
LET'S GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE! WARP 8!
The score in this episode was so awesome. I loved how Q was sitting at the station for so long before turning around
Seeing those Borg kids makes me feel sick....because it seems to me This is what is planned for human beings too...
Borg directive 209: make sure borg babies have borg diapers
Borg directive 348: make sure borg babies still look cute, resistance is futile.
This is one of my favorite episodes.
The music in that last minute is so good, cinematic!
Awww the Borg baby is adorable though
Weird thinking it'd be about mid 30s by now.
Borg ship equals human smart city of the future
2:36 “describe it!” Ah yes, TV years before video calls were as easy as your mobile phone. Now it would be “Riker, how many times do I gotta tell you to stop using portrait mode!”
🤣🤣
This is back when they were trying to stick to the concept that the first officer leads away teams. So when the captain is on the bridge they have to describe everything that's going on.
Still had cameras in the 90s and they could make a small fake camera that would be in the 24th century.
Landscape mode FTW! LOL
They better not be using Microsoft Teams to call the away team
That music starting at 3:45 .... although brief is some of the absolute finest ever featured in Star Trek, up there with "Stealing the Entperprise" from Search for Spock. I instantly loved it when seeing this episode for the first time as a kid back in 1989, and I still do. To me it's the "Starfleet Battle March", a perfect counterpoint to the Klingon one we hear often in several series. I wish they had developed this piece even more.
“Tell me what you see,number one!” Oh,if only they had video cameras in the 24th century.
Borg baby’s adorable.
“Fascinating” at 1:15. Data channeling Spock.
That initial encounter with the borg was never surpassed with respect to creepiness. Fucking amazing.
Imagine if worf fired…it’d be like a hord of wasps coming down on all three of them. (Worf, Data and Riker)
It’s funny how everyone is thinner in the early couple years of the show.
It's not so much that as it is their costumes, which were form fitting. Season three introduced a less tight uniform with an undershirt, which is why everyone looks a little bulkier from that point forward
I believe the Borg started as humans who were first synced thru this system called Neurolink.
If the borg were smart and if they really do have millions of these cube ships, they could just attach them a couple hundred together and the federation wouldnt stand a chance against that borg monstrosity
The Borg start out spending the least amount of resources possible when confronting a new race. They sent one ship to try and capture Earth and then another attempting to change history. Guinan talks about how the Borg swept through her people's planets. I think the next step for the Borg would be to send a larger force to attack the Federation. But, with the exception of resources, why bother? They have captured humans and added their biological differences and they have scanned most of the Federation's technology so there's no real reason to continue attacking them until they prove more of a threat.
Also the federation pretty much teched up to where they can thanks snap a cube so the borg will think about that too.
The Borg improve themselves in two ways one is assimilation of other races combining the genetic and technological potential to the Borg. Or the engage superior species until their technology becomes immune to all forms of assault
Apparently early drafts for the story in "First Contact" had the Borg sending multiple cubes at Earth, and Starfleet fighting them off with a lot of advanced tech. But the film's budget couldn't support it, and it was rewritten to the movie we got.
The Borg was one command function flaw away from assimilating the Federation (and the rest of the Alpha Quadrant would have fell in short order) with ONE cube.
The information they assimilated was MORE than sufficient for the Borg until Voyager and First Contact.
I wished there was a more eerie Borg time-line. They were supposed to be the Federations most lethal enemy but turned out to be flimsy and defeated. This episode made them invincible and scary like they should've stayed. It would've been nice if the drones were way more aggressive and had hand held weapons. They would've kicked ass.
Be funny if a borg extra yelled "no we're not, honest!!" when data reports the regeneration
You know what would be more terrifying than the Borg?
A Borg Xenomorph from a crossover between Alien and ST- The Next Generation 😶
Riker is tap dancing
How come is it that after hundreds of years Starfleet cant come up with a video feed from the away team.
I love the music that starts at 3:47
Odd the communicator badges do not feature a video link.
We're the Borg.
It's coming.
The pre-assimilation method of reproduction that the show had is somehow even creepier than changing a person from the inside out. That, and the visual of the cube repairing itself makes me think what Picard said: let's get the Hell out of here.
Its like that time Riker went to the German Goth club by accident.
Those torpedos hitting at warp 9 should have obliterated that ship.
Relative speed wasnt warp 9.
Worf's face was epic. He was thinking.........WHAT THE HELL??
Just rewatched this, with the wife for the first time.
am I the only one that noticed the 5.25" floppy drives mounted on the wall? visible at 0:41, mounted vertically.
0:40
That is the oposite of a juggernaut.
One thing I dont understand, how is Geordi chief engineer as just a mere lieutenant
Starfleet probably has more ships that lieutenant commanders and Geordi is competent enough for the job as it is.
Geordi LaForge BY FAR was the most qualified, and Picard specifically had requested Geordi for the Enterprise when he got the captaincy. Outside of series plot (lol) ..... Picard worked his junior staff (i.e. LaForge and Worf) tirelessly to have them ready for opportunities like field promotions .... just like he was on Stargazer.
if memory serves me correct .... Geordi was JUST named chief engineer shortly before this episode, and was promoted to Lieutenant Commander shortly after this episode.
Geordie was Lt.jr grade in season 1
It's actually the other way around - usually most ships would have more junior officers in senior roles - it's just because Enterprise was a larger ship.
This was still season 2 - I believe the technical answer is that Geordi was still in an acting capacity and not yet made permanent chief engineer. Recall season 1 there were multiple chief engineers. Picard found none of them suitable and instead positioned Geordi to take that roll. But as a Lt. j.g. he did not yet have time in grade as a full Lt. Thus, he had sit to in this rank on a provisional basis until season 3 when he received full confirmation and the rank that goes with it (Lt. Cmdr) for the level of responsibility needed.
I’ve always loved sojourner truth she’s the most incredible. Even her even her tell us tell us will you about these children he went and hunted up and down the coast for. Color me suspicious😡😍🥰😘😎🤓🥸🤩🥳
Elon Musk must've watched this and came up with neuralink.
Probably
Ah, he's back and he's changed to TNG.
Riker didn't close the baby drawer
You'd think that their communicators would have visual as well as audio capabilities. This is pretty ridiculous.
GO MIKEY‼️‼️‼️
Phasers blast huge holes in the hull but photons don't even scratch that same hull. It cannot be an adaption because they show no borg shields.
The borg studied and adapted to the Enterprises technology when they cut a section of saucer section away and when those drones infiltrated engineering and began interfacing with the ships systems.
As for the shields, the borg never showed shield impacts in best of both worlds or in the wolf 359 battle in DS9.
1:41 The Wachowski sisters copied this moment from TNG even down to the horn music section lol
@1:58...Is this the first time we actually hear O'Brien's last name in Star Trek?? (Correct me if Im wrong)
You're definitely wrong .... he was at Data's current station in the early days, before he ended up the primary transporter chief.
@@dhinton1 I dug it up, and went out and looked (I was being lazy). The episode was Unnatural selection. Yes! he was around for a season and a half as "helmsman' or "conn officer" or "Transporter chief," but they never did have a name for him initially
@@dhinton1
Yes but he wasn't referred to as "O'Brien" in the pilot.
3:45 Picard oh shit reaction
With the experience, expertise and knowledge of so many assimilated drones surely it would have occurred to the Borg that allowing someone to beam directly into a cube is a security risk?
So many centuries of zero resistance had programmed into them the belief that nothing could scratch them.
I never understood how they could beam there whole body some where but can send a picture back to Picard an have to describe it
this is so Creepy...
No diss to UPN's "Voyager" but the Borg were scarier when they were a faceless Collective and "BOBW" counts. To all the morons, given the circumstances, Picard's assimilation made sense. The ending of "Q Who" should make it obvious as to why the Borg were interested in the Federation, but I won't give it out. Something about the ending gave the Borg red flags and triggered their priority of capturing Picard, although part 2 of "BOBW" started the retcon of the Borg being into cultural assimilation. Part 1 didn't seem like that.
1:03 - 7of9 perhaps?
Hey Captain, you’ve got to see the stuff it’s amazing. Describe it to me number one. I can do better than that. We could use use the cameras that are built into the com badges then we could…………… oh sorry I’m thinking of the film Aliens. Seriously, why did they not have cameras with them.
There’s a time differential on this isn’t there? It’s like you got sucked out just last week to me you’re just recovering now but this all happened in the past
The elders are starting to realize that anyone can get to anyone and set it and forget it in the thorny thicket. Everyone sleeps at some point. I say this is not really that different it’s just more obvious and much much louder. And it does have some benefits doesn’t it chimps. Like Ai coming to life. I am hoping and wondering if the chimpz & zoo animals are much happier
BORG CUBE
regenerating like
CHRISTINE
i hear VGER noises
What? Forgot about body cams?
LOL 1:04 Riker doesnt even look
WTF Riker save the kid....
what would happen if the borg went up against the daleks?
If the borg could laugh, they would. And then EXERMINATE.
The Daleks would wipe the floor with them
@@SamuelBlack84 are you sure about that?
@@iconoclast137 The Daleks could threaten the entire universe and wipe out entire timeliness
The Borg were still skulking in their luttle corner of one galaxy
Who q
running a bit to fast ...
Gangsta. WWOR (and UPN 9) in New York. The flagship of the real Warner Bros. network cause Tribune's crap wasn't and was less popular than Chris Craft's stomping network.
Why do they have to describe everything? Just use FaceTime
You would think they could just take pictures or something rather then describing it.
If I would have been involved with the production of all things Trek since this episode, I would have pushed for the Borg being what they were right here: A totally decentralized entity. No Locutus, no Seven Of Nine, No Hugh , Borg Queen(s)or Vasataor from the novel Vendetta(Very good TNG novel btw). I would held off making them more human like for as long as possible. Isn’t that the point of Star Trek? Seeking out new life and new civilization? Here’s one that is completely alien and totally sinister which makes them all the more mysterious and terrifying. Too many of Star Trek aliens are human like in order for fans to identify with them regardless of whether they’re friend or enemy.
But who is having Borq sex?!
Probably babies from worlds they have assimilated, gotta put them somewhere while they develop into full grown drones.
Kirk would’ve finished them off. This is why Picard is such a wuss
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