Picard wasn't an idiot. The reason they defeated the Borg was because Riker played a whole new game. It was one of unexpected surprises rather than intelligence. The Borg knew Picard, but not Riker. That was the trick.
The Borg are stupid, Picard had that information in his brain thanks to the combat simulation in season 2, knowing that Riker was after unconventional tactics. The problem is the Borg can"t engage nonconventional tactics without being defeated once by them. So any non conventional tactic can be used once against them but you have to change or they'll adapt.
They had Picards knowledge but not his intuition. They knew basic reference tactic rules of Star Fleet standards and that's what Riker used to trick them.
@dark zeratul They are stupid as Wikipedia is stupid. They have all knowledge but they lack human intuition and creativity to adapt to new situations without having had them once. Remember, that they never developed anything themself, all abilities they have was assimilated from species they assimilated. They can't think creative and "out of the boundaries" and go unconventional ways. In AI you'd implement a Borg like a binary tree of known solutions and expectations, every defeat would add a new node to the tree and they would select a strategy along these tree paths according to best chance of winning. But if something is not in that tree/has no path to a node, they can't handle it. Also remember, that the Borg Queen, the only borg who would be able to do human intelligent things and develop a creative tactic, didn't exist in the canon when this episode was shot. Although claimed to be present at this time later in the canon, she didn't exist in the script there. The Borg without the queen where a totally different Borg, more like an artificial swarm intelligence than a collective controlled by a mastermind.
Funny thing about this is that if they really delved in Picard's brain, they would have known that their first course of action after assimilating him should have been to assimilate Riker. You can even imagine the train of thought: Riker is unconventional --> unconventional is bad for us --> we should assimilate Riker so he won't come with something bad for us.
Don't tell the idiot who fired him. Ron Jones's music was "too noticeable," said Rick Berman. Think of some of the episodes where music helped set the tone of the critical scenes: "Q Who" "Booby Trap" "The Defector" "Data's Day" "Night Terrors" "Reunion" Ron Jones was involved in all of those. About the only one I can think of with great music that doesn't involve Jones is "Yesterday's Enterprise," which was by Dennis McCarthy. He did plenty of good work, but I don't recall the music in most of his episodes. Rick Berman might say that's great, because the story should do the work, but the right music can really elevate a scene and make it memorable. The first appearance of the Promellian battle cruiser in "Booby Trap" is a beautiful moment, and the music sells it perfectly.
I always thought that it would be a great idea to have Riker go off on his own command but have a certian number os episodes per season within TNG dedicated to his own adventures and then occaisonally have them link up for some major 3 episode arc or something. And potentially a merged TNG/DS9 with a similar idea.
900 years in the future, historians review this moment. They find that the transporter shouldn't have worked. With period Federation technology, in 100 out of 100 simulations run, the Borg destroy the shuttlecraft before the team is transported off. Chief O'Brien should not have been able to do what he did. Intrigued, historians conduct further review of Miles O'Brien's life. It is found he saved the Federation by himself on no fewer than 14 occasions, and the officers he taught in the academy another 22. No single man was more responsible for the Federation's success. A certain Ambassador Spock comes in a distant second place with 7 and 12.
Upon further evaluation by peer review, it is found that the historical documents supporting these claims were in fact based entirely on fan fiction. Yes, DS9 is nothing more than high quality self indulgent fan fictiob
Of course it did. They adapted. All the best procedures the Federation knew, whenever they were better than the Borg's current, got put into use. That's what it means that your technological sophistication shall be added to our own.
The Borg were always clean and organized on "TNG" before assimilation. That whole thing of them being garbage-looking ships with a vomit-causing green glow started with "First Contact" and expanded with "Voyager."
@@robjackson5245 But the Borg Drone design in first contact and Voyager was leagues better. Those drones put the fear of assimilation with those tubials in me. This earlier drone design made me cringe hard. And we don't talk about the queen here. That was a mistake in every way
You are right. Borg aren't able to assimilate the skill set of an individual, only his/her/its knowledge. This fact was made clear in STVOY: Scorpion Part 1. The crew of Voyager was able to set a deal with the Borg because Borg even after assimilating so many species couldn't think of dealing with a completely new one. They will develop a way to control omega particles, they will destroy fleets and assimilate worlds and make hue ships, but they can't knock out a new species unless they assimilate it. It's sort of like "For his hands can't hit what his eyes can't see!" thing with the Borg.
True, but the Borg (Locutus included) hadn't anticipated the antimatter spread being able to disrupt their electromagnetic field to allow Data & Worf to maneuver close enough to infiltrate the Cube and steal Locutus (Picard) from them, and then escape. As it was, Data only got the drop on Locutus at the last second, just when he nearly overpowered Worf. I'd say a fraction of a second longer, and Worf would have been on his way to becoming a Borg drone.
One of my favorite things about the scene is when data and warf are in the shuttle. I love being able to look through the windows of the shuttle and see the battle going on in the background. It is so nice to see that POV. It really makes you feel like you’re right there in the shuttle with them.
I like the scene in another episode when Geordi is on a shuttle playing a game with the computer while on the viewscreen behind him you see a Romulan Warbird decloak.
@@huskyfaninmass1042 That’s the one where they brain worse him so he’ll shoot the cleaning on ambassador. Then plant all of the fake memories of being on the planet on his vacation. I don’t remember the name of it.
Yes THAT scene was always like "whoa..~ did its full of stars!" When I was young. It's a prime example of trying smarter - not harder. They should have used the technique more often and at character scenes in the shirtless instead of transporting everywhere - then you'd have some awesome matte painting in the background showing off random civilization of the week or whatever
Given that one Borg cube managed to destroy almost 40 Federation starship at the battle of Wolf 359, a separated Enterprise D was fortunate to withstand this confrontation and then escape, only losing on shuttle craft. Great sequence 🎥👏🏾❤
In this one scene Riker proved himself an outstanding tactician. As a Strategist he proved himself brilliant. But on the level of Grand Strategy he showed himself Unsurpassable.
0:33 One of the few times Geordi appears in "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II". LeVar Burton had injured himself round the time the episode was filmed and was in hospital having surgery. Then when he came back, most of the episode was completed. Hence why he only has less screen time and mostly appears sitting down. And also why O'Brien's the one working with Data, Beverly and Troi to restore Picard.
I like this. The crew on TNG were written to show a very high degree of professionalism, competency and organization. Having LeVar Burton replaced by Colm Meaney in these scenes doesn't feel out of place because Chief O'Brian is perfectly capable of performing the task while LaForge is busy keeping the ship running.
Worf was all, I got this, it is only Captain Picard, without accounting for the added strength from BORG enhancements, then after realizing he was outmatched, he called out to Data, for help.
That's bogus, Worf had already encountered the borg before and was well aware of their superior strength, he did the brave thing by charging Picard to try and restrain him until Data could help. He wasn't being stupid, he knew he had backup. If anything you should be impressed he was physically able to hold Picard off as long as he did.
I really loved this two part episode! When I saw it back in 1990 I remember how shocking it was to me to see Picard assimilated so easily. Couldn't have imagined it happening to Kirk in TOS. One thing about the second part that stood out to me was how it was a total team effort to rescue Picard and defeat the Borg. Obviously Data is the Starfleet MVP of this incident!
1:34 I don’t know why, but seeing Worf and Data executing a critical part of the mission in a shuttle craft (instead of teleporting over there) excited me. I think it’s maybe because they’re both very capable combatants and seeing them do something with some complexity and danger was a thrill. Also the music at 1:44.
Not really. The smart move would have been to beam a high explosive weapon on board with Data and Worf. Maybe grab picard and then set it off or just blow the whole cube to bits and save thousands of lives instead of one.
@@MrBottlecapBill The Borg Cube was a lot more powerful than a Probe ship. It would've immediately detected it and beamed it off. Plus they didn't have anything powerful enough to do that kind of damage to something as massive as a Borg Cube. Voyager pulled it off because that Probe ship was a lot smaller and weaker.
I know it's nothing special, but that whole shuttle craft departure scene with Data and Worf, where you see them fly out of the hangar bay and pass the ventral side of the ship, still seems so cool to me even now.
What i like is how this shows the difference between captain picard and riker as leaders... picard is an expert at diplomacy. Riker on the other hand is very cunning. When pushed his ideas are extremely detailed and in dept. Hes super focused.. sort of like janeway in a way
the thing is, what riker did was counter intuitive. when a person, or group, or culture, or planet, or star system was assimilated by the Borg, all hope was lost. the Borg were accustomed to this, and had no expectation that star fleet would behave any differently. the collective was wrong. loyalty, unknown to the Borg, is a strong trait in star fleet. also innovative and adaptable, star fleet officers and crew, much like the Marine corps, improvise, adapt and overcome. granted, it's fiction, but still a valuable lesson. no one gets left behind. moreover, locutus had essential intel that enabled the enterprise to disable the Borg cube, leading to its destruction. eventually, the information gained from removing the Borg implants and nanites from Picard aided in the liberation of 7 of 9, among others. is it plausible? hell, no! the whole goddamn thing is implausible! it's fiction, people! but it's still a cracking good story with some object lessons tossed in for good measure. I like it.:)
Les Sanders Cell phones are the direct result of kids who grew up watching the original Star Trek being inspired by the sci-fi tech and growing up to be scientists and inventors who greatly enhanced our world. Many other examples exist. Tell me again how imaginative thought is unimportant.
When real aliens and robots come, everything turns out to be fantasy Robo-aliens: resistance is futile Humans: but loyalty, innovation and adaptability an- and Hope! Robo-aliens: All is irrelevant, prepare to be assimilated. Seriously, we've never faced against neither robots or aliens and create television series like independence day to talk about our fantasies with final minute plots. We only ever faced against other humans.
I get the feeling that even when assimilated, Picard was still resisting in any way he could. Yes, River was unconventional in his tactics, but the Borg would have realised what he was doing if they had the full access to his thoughts and experience. To me, Locutas was a separate entity inside Picard that had the negative traits of humanity - ego, overblown confidence, all the things that the Borg thought were irrelevant or were against. That makes more sense when you consider Hugh later in the series. In short, Locutas and the Borg were ineffective because Picard still resisted in any small way he could, perhaps locking some of the knowledge and experience in his mind. He was highly evolved in human terms which was why Q was so fascinated by him over all the other crew members.
The best episode was the one after this one, where Picard takes leave and returns home to France to see his brother and nephew, and where he deals with the psychological aftermath of his assimilation.
Riker,often ridiculed in the Trekverse showed how badass he actually is during this story arc.Even in this clip he seems to know what the Borg are going to do before they do it.
Worf and Data are the only two crew members with the raw strength to fight Borg hand to hand. Data has been known to carry a 400 LB anvil around like an empty briefcase. While Worf maybe the Walmart brand of Klingon, his strength still far exceeds that of humans.
@@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine No evidence that Klingon's have superior strength vs humans. Sure, they are generally much taller than an average human giving the advantage in that way, but that doesn't mean they are physiologically stronger. Compare that to Vulcans where we know they are in fact several times stronger and faster, i.e. able to deliver acceleration of movement in blows for greater force impact. In fact, we saw Sisko routinely able to beat up random Klingon warriors left and right, but he admitted he had no chance against a Vulcan.
I liked the Battle Bridge set. such a shame they didn't use it more. I know separating the ship was expensive to shoot, but they could have done an episode where the main Bridge had to be evacuated or was hijacked and Enterprise crew members took over from the Battle Bridge
Separating the ship wasn't expensive. All the way up to Generations they reused footage of the separation that ILM did for Encounter at Farpoint. That shot of the ship separating was used in Encounter at Farpoint, The Arsenal of Freedom, BoBW Pt2 and Star Trek Generations. The new shots of the individual modules they filmed for this episode was likely expensive but they could have separated the ship more times and only used stock footage. The battle bridge is actually seen in just about every episode of TNG. They redressed it and used it as the court room, various labratories, and dozens of other purposes. It was originally the bridge of the refit Enterprise from The Motion Picture.
Always thought this two-part episode was great and more accomplished than the TNG actual movies. Drama, suspense, and emotionally charged. This and Yesterday's Enterprise were faves.
Yeah the Best of Both Worlds is the best "movie" TNG ever got. The finale of TNG is also one of the best show finales ever made it wrapped up the series nicely. Finales are often let downs and it was not.
Yesterday's Enterprise was a modified script. It was supposed to be the Generations movie, and involve the complete TOS and TNG crews, but it ended up being modified and turned into a TV episode. I've seen this explained in more than one article but can't think of any link at the moment.
@@zt1053 Of course Kira was a very strong character, would have been interesting to see those two interact. I guess I like conflict between characters. I mean I remember the animosity between Odo and Worf.
Eh, I think one and done was ok for Shelby, although one more appearance before All Good Things would have been nice, just to see where she ended up. Not sure where she would have fit on DS9.
My man, Pat. Mista don't play. Good eyes and ears. Especially for the non eighties babies, nineties kids. You need thug life 😎 for that one fellow old head.
Go, plucked turkey! Go! I can remember how amazing it was to watch saucer separation for the first time. I'm glad they did it sparingly throughout TNG series. Though there were times I was like "come on! Do saucer separation!" during encounters as well lol. Now it's kinda cheesy but iconic
@@VDAM1984 Like he said later to Captain Picard, "I always figured I'd have a shot at this chair." (Leans over the captain's chair in the bridge of the destroyed Enterprise-D) Captain Picard: "Perhaps someday you still will. Somehow I doubt that this will be the last ship named Enterprise."
This is one of my favorite sequences in ST:TNG. The characters I usually like the least are the playboys like Riker, but Jonathan Frakes plays the character and his complexities so well--he's intelligent, resourceful, commanding, charming, and knows how to throw out the playbook and make a new one. This two-parter is Riker's story more than anyone else's and it's the best episode in the series.
Problem is, it's an obvious weapon and would be immediately identified as a threat. One the other hand one android and one Klingon whose phasers would be rendered useless after a few shots versus thousands of Borg? No threat there.
Cubes don't work like that, it might have been disabled but not destroyed. And where would Starfleet get an antimatter bomb? until Janeway used special phasic torpedos basically nothing could blow up a Borg cube
@@SantomPh Janeway used a torpedo to blowup a small Borg ship. So a much bigger antimatter bomb would destroy a cube. Where would they get one? They would build it. It's just that simple.
The next generation is a very good movie and I am a science fiction fan and I have watched this movie often on Netflix without commercials with sir Patrick Stewart he is my favorite best actor of all time.
Why does it feel like the Borg invasion of whatever quadrant and the battle at Wolf 3 is the biggest highlight of my life? The saucer separation is diabolical. From the time Picard sends a message home - "We have engaged the Borg", its nothing but pure exhilaration!
Probably a production cost issue, but I always though it would be cool to utilize the shuttle crafts in a battle. Their own swarm of mini ships would be a cool site to see! Maybe just a few of them with enhanced weapons and shields, used as a distraction if anything.
@@mikevanroy9356 I'd imagine. Basically they would just serve as decoys. It's not like they would do that much damage. I guess a fleet of Delta Flyers might do something, but it's too easy to pick them off
4:27 I wonder if bushy beard Riker from the "THE BORG ARE EVERYWHERE TIMELINE!!!!!" ever felt confident enough during his battle with the borg to smile like that?????
The two part episode Scorpion was a great show. My mouth dropped open when I saw 15 Borg cubes fleeing. If they are fleeing then we better be scared of who they are running from.
The battle bridge set was much improved with the redesign for season 2 when it was used as the bridge of the decommissioned USS Hathaway in "Peak Performance" and redressed here for this episode with the NextGen era Okudagrams on the displays.
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O'Brian's transporter skills has saved damn near everyone on the Enterprise at least once.
So has Scotty. 😁
The only person I can think of that's comparable is B'Ellana Torres with the skeletal lock.
And remember, he transferred with wife and daughter to Deep Space Nine because he wanted a quieter job. Didn´t work out, Miles, eh?
@@grundian He certainly had a Hard Time of it there ^_^
I wonder if he read Transporter Chief Kyle's logs from the original Enterprise, for inspiration.
Picard wasn't an idiot. The reason they defeated the Borg was because Riker played a whole new game. It was one of unexpected surprises rather than intelligence. The Borg knew Picard, but not Riker.
That was the trick.
The Borg are stupid, Picard had that information in his brain thanks to the combat simulation in season 2, knowing that Riker was after unconventional tactics. The problem is the Borg can"t engage nonconventional tactics without being defeated once by them. So any non conventional tactic can be used once against them but you have to change or they'll adapt.
They had Picards knowledge but not his intuition. They knew basic reference tactic rules of Star Fleet standards and that's what Riker used to trick them.
@dark zeratul They are stupid as Wikipedia is stupid. They have all knowledge but they lack human intuition and creativity to adapt to new situations without having had them once. Remember, that they never developed anything themself, all abilities they have was assimilated from species they assimilated. They can't think creative and "out of the boundaries" and go unconventional ways. In AI you'd implement a Borg like a binary tree of known solutions and expectations, every defeat would add a new node to the tree and they would select a strategy along these tree paths according to best chance of winning. But if something is not in that tree/has no path to a node, they can't handle it.
Also remember, that the Borg Queen, the only borg who would be able to do human intelligent things and develop a creative tactic, didn't exist in the canon when this episode was shot. Although claimed to be present at this time later in the canon, she didn't exist in the script there. The Borg without the queen where a totally different Borg, more like an artificial swarm intelligence than a collective controlled by a mastermind.
Or it’s a TV show
Funny thing about this is that if they really delved in Picard's brain, they would have known that their first course of action after assimilating him should have been to assimilate Riker. You can even imagine the train of thought:
Riker is unconventional --> unconventional is bad for us --> we should assimilate Riker so he won't come with something bad for us.
This is 30 years old, and may be one of the best sequences ever put to television. Absolutely gripping, in no small part due to Ron Jones' epic score.
Especially because we had all waited for three long months for S4E1. I was in 7th grade and it was BRUTAL.
Don't tell the idiot who fired him. Ron Jones's music was "too noticeable," said Rick Berman. Think of some of the episodes where music helped set the tone of the critical scenes:
"Q Who"
"Booby Trap"
"The Defector"
"Data's Day"
"Night Terrors"
"Reunion"
Ron Jones was involved in all of those. About the only one I can think of with great music that doesn't involve Jones is "Yesterday's Enterprise," which was by Dennis McCarthy. He did plenty of good work, but I don't recall the music in most of his episodes. Rick Berman might say that's great, because the story should do the work, but the right music can really elevate a scene and make it memorable. The first appearance of the Promellian battle cruiser in "Booby Trap" is a beautiful moment, and the music sells it perfectly.
Very enjoyable soundtrack.
This cliffhanger was the best cliffhanger ever put on TV
I so much agree....!
Btw, "Evasive pattern Riker Beta” is the only way to use the the words Riker and beta in the same sentence.
Ha!!
“Is the only way yo use...”. Ignoring your own follow up, that is.
Cuz he's the definition of Alpha Male!
Had more swagger than Kirk ever did
Okay... but what about "Commander Riker is heading to Betazed"?
That look on Riker's face at the end is always so damn good. He knows he's the biggest badass in the quadrant.
If he could have had his own ship. Of course he would be off the show. LoL.
I always thought that it would be a great idea to have Riker go off on his own command but have a certian number os episodes per season within TNG dedicated to his own adventures and then occaisonally have them link up for some major 3 episode arc or something. And potentially a merged TNG/DS9 with a similar idea.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what would have happened had he taken command of the _Melbourne_ .
What dope doesn't take his own command
Well seeing as the Melbourne was destroyed at Wolf 359 perhaps he made the right call.
900 years in the future, historians review this moment. They find that the transporter shouldn't have worked. With period Federation technology, in 100 out of 100 simulations run, the Borg destroy the shuttlecraft before the team is transported off. Chief O'Brien should not have been able to do what he did.
Intrigued, historians conduct further review of Miles O'Brien's life. It is found he saved the Federation by himself on no fewer than 14 occasions, and the officers he taught in the academy another 22.
No single man was more responsible for the Federation's success. A certain Ambassador Spock comes in a distant second place with 7 and 12.
Upon further evaluation by peer review, it is found that the historical documents supporting these claims were in fact based entirely on fan fiction.
Yes, DS9 is nothing more than high quality self indulgent fan fictiob
He is the most important Starfleet officer of all time, after all.
@@enshk79 You have no clue what you’re talking about. Deep Space Nine was probably one of the best.
@@lewistingler9548 most important and just generally a great lad
But Kirk saved the whole galaxy at least twice.
"USS Enterprise D - The Reference Guide" by Jean-Luc Picard
"USS Enterprise D - Field Manual" by William T Riker
Pretty much.
Riker is a badass. I like to see him as the commander of the enterprise in a battle.
@dark zeratul That would be nice.
One small thing I keep noticing, after the Borg assimilated Picard, the Borg cube become cleaner and more organized, more like Star fleet vessels
Of course it did. They adapted. All the best procedures the Federation knew, whenever they were better than the Borg's current, got put into use. That's what it means that your technological sophistication shall be added to our own.
The Borg were always clean and organized on "TNG" before assimilation. That whole thing of them being garbage-looking ships with a vomit-causing green glow started with "First Contact" and expanded with "Voyager."
@@robjackson5245 But the Borg Drone design in first contact and Voyager was leagues better. Those drones put the fear of assimilation with those tubials in me. This earlier drone design made me cringe hard. And we don't talk about the queen here. That was a mistake in every way
@@Jartran72 disagree the Borg of before "First Contact" were way more frightening just for what they represented
They started to drink tea, Earl Grey, hot.
You have to admit It was pretty cool how Riker used Picard's (and the Borg's) knowledge of the Saucer sep plan to his advantage.
Knowing that he knows that we know that he knows.....
That would only have worked if Picard was an idiot.
fjvideo He isn’t, but the Borg are using his knowledge not his skills
You are right. Borg aren't able to assimilate the skill set of an individual, only his/her/its knowledge. This fact was made clear in STVOY: Scorpion Part 1. The crew of Voyager was able to set a deal with the Borg because Borg even after assimilating so many species couldn't think of dealing with a completely new one. They will develop a way to control omega particles, they will destroy fleets and assimilate worlds and make hue ships, but they can't knock out a new species unless they assimilate it. It's sort of like "For his hands can't hit what his eyes can't see!" thing with the Borg.
True, but the Borg (Locutus included) hadn't anticipated the antimatter spread being able to disrupt their electromagnetic field to allow Data & Worf to maneuver close enough to infiltrate the Cube and steal Locutus (Picard) from them, and then escape. As it was, Data only got the drop on Locutus at the last second, just when he nearly overpowered Worf. I'd say a fraction of a second longer, and Worf would have been on his way to becoming a Borg drone.
The look on Riker's face, like he just won a year's supply of gold, is priceless.....saving the Picard.
Saving Picard is worth far more than gold.
I think you meant latinum, gold is worthless 😜
The humanity remaining in Locutus couldn't help but admire Riker.
One of my favorite things about the scene is when data and warf are in the shuttle. I love being able to look through the windows of the shuttle and see the battle going on in the background. It is so nice to see that POV. It really makes you feel like you’re right there in the shuttle with them.
I like the scene in another episode when Geordi is on a shuttle playing a game with the computer while on the viewscreen behind him you see a Romulan Warbird decloak.
Worf, bro
I personally like the unique Locutus multi-screen POV.
@@huskyfaninmass1042 That’s the one where they brain worse him so he’ll shoot the cleaning on ambassador. Then plant all of the fake memories of being on the planet on his vacation. I don’t remember the name of it.
Yes THAT scene was always like "whoa..~ did its full of stars!"
When I was young. It's a prime example of trying smarter - not harder. They should have used the technique more often and at character scenes in the shirtless instead of transporting everywhere - then you'd have some awesome matte painting in the background showing off random civilization of the week or whatever
Imagine if they got back to the Enterprise and found out they grabbed the wrong drone by accident.
"MISTER WORF REMIND WHY WE MADE YOU CHIEF OF SECURITY-"
They find out they grabbed somebody named Gurney who was assimilated from a planet called Arrakis, still wearing remnants of his stillsuit.
@@metalore For the duke!
@@metalore LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS
@Rex makepeace No need, authentic Borg drones are always come shaved.
"Just as you should Captain. Ensign....evasive pattern Riker Beard!"
"Riker Beard confirmed!"
*Borg ship immediately powers down*
*female drones all become pregnant*
@@Smeginator +500 internets to you, sir.
LOLLLL
👏😂🤣
*devilish dirty grin
(on whoever. Riker for sure, but feel free to add to the wish list whoever you want.)
This has to be the best five minutes in ANY sci-fi series....and the best smug look i've ever seen on t.v...
Rikers look at the end can"t help but make you do the same. What an actor!
Given that one Borg cube managed to destroy almost 40 Federation starship at the battle of Wolf 359, a separated Enterprise D was fortunate to withstand this confrontation and then escape, only losing on shuttle craft. Great sequence 🎥👏🏾❤
In this one scene Riker proved himself an outstanding tactician. As a Strategist he proved himself brilliant. But on the level of Grand Strategy he showed himself Unsurpassable.
0:33 One of the few times Geordi appears in "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II". LeVar Burton had injured himself round the time the episode was filmed and was in hospital having surgery. Then when he came back, most of the episode was completed. Hence why he only has less screen time and mostly appears sitting down. And also why O'Brien's the one working with Data, Beverly and Troi to restore Picard.
Interesting. I wondered about the smaller role he had here.
😩Nerrrrrrrdsss @@BartlebysCorpse
Never knew that
Interesting
@@seewhativescene Something bothering you?
I like this. The crew on TNG were written to show a very high degree of professionalism, competency and organization. Having LeVar Burton replaced by Colm Meaney in these scenes doesn't feel out of place because Chief O'Brian is perfectly capable of performing the task while LaForge is busy keeping the ship running.
Riker was the king of the well timed shit eating grin.
I loved how Worf jumped at the chance to grab Picard. But then he cried out for Data after finding out how much stronger Picard is
Worf was all, I got this, it is only Captain Picard, without accounting for the added strength from BORG enhancements, then after realizing he was outmatched, he called out to Data, for help.
That's bogus, Worf had already encountered the borg before and was well aware of their superior strength, he did the brave thing by charging Picard to try and restrain him until Data could help. He wasn't being stupid, he knew he had backup. If anything you should be impressed he was physically able to hold Picard off as long as he did.
Scenes like this reinforce my feeling that we were robbed of a series starring Captain Riker. Missed opportunity!
The original Multi-Vector Assault Mode
TOS ENTERPRISE had this as well. But only used it in the comics, and it was more permanent from the use of explosive cutting charges.
part of the Riker's Greatest Hits, along with the Riker Maneuver, the Riker Maneuver: Encore, the Riker Booty Tap, and the Riker Parenting Method.
@@Nighthawke70 I believe in one novel, too, they separated and it was done by basically unbolting.
@@Alamandorious It was also done in the final episode of "Star Trek: Continues".
The Prometheus is just silly.
The look of satisfaction on Riker's face was priceless!!!
I really loved this two part episode! When I saw it back in 1990 I remember how shocking it was to me to see Picard assimilated so easily. Couldn't have imagined it happening to Kirk in TOS. One thing about the second part that stood out to me was how it was a total team effort to rescue Picard and defeat the Borg. Obviously Data is the Starfleet MVP of this incident!
Riker's grin at the end...
+ Ron Jon music puts life into all this
Rick Berman should never have fired Ron jones in the first place.
Riker needs those "Thug life" shades.
And a spliff to come spiraling in.
Don't forget about the Fedora and a extra thicc blunt.
And enough support to hold his brass balls.
"Just remember, Captain Riker has never lost." S2 Peak Performance
1:34 I don’t know why, but seeing Worf and Data executing a critical part of the mission in a shuttle craft (instead of teleporting over there) excited me.
I think it’s maybe because they’re both very capable combatants and seeing them do something with some complexity and danger was a thrill.
Also the music at 1:44.
Riker outsmarted the borg this time
Not really. The smart move would have been to beam a high explosive weapon on board with Data and Worf. Maybe grab picard and then set it off or just blow the whole cube to bits and save thousands of lives instead of one.
@@MrBottlecapBill The Borg Cube was a lot more powerful than a Probe ship. It would've immediately detected it and beamed it off. Plus they didn't have anything powerful enough to do that kind of damage to something as massive as a Borg Cube. Voyager pulled it off because that Probe ship was a lot smaller and weaker.
I know it's nothing special, but that whole shuttle craft departure scene with Data and Worf, where you see them fly out of the hangar bay and pass the ventral side of the ship, still seems so cool to me even now.
I find it interesting that they left this ship and got into that position so fast.
That was a great touch to this whole scene which I think is the best action sequence ever done in ST:TNG.
Great shout. The shaking of the shuttle when passing the antimatter burst is a neat touch too.
@@George040270 I think they departed from the saucer shuttle bay
What i like is how this shows the difference between captain picard and riker as leaders... picard is an expert at diplomacy. Riker on the other hand is very cunning. When pushed his ideas are extremely detailed and in dept. Hes super focused.. sort of like janeway in a way
Riker had and will always be one of the most Badass Star fleet officers. The risks he be taking is the reason he captains his own ship.
Check out his ultimatum to the Romulans in Picard Season 1.
Locutus: Sleep
Crusher: He must be exhausted
Data: stupid humans
the thing is, what riker did was counter intuitive. when a person, or group, or culture, or planet, or star system was assimilated by the Borg, all hope was lost. the Borg were accustomed to this, and had no expectation that star fleet would behave any differently. the collective was wrong. loyalty, unknown to the Borg, is a strong trait in star fleet. also innovative and adaptable, star fleet officers and crew, much like the Marine corps, improvise, adapt and overcome. granted, it's fiction, but still a valuable lesson. no one gets left behind. moreover, locutus had essential intel that enabled the enterprise to disable the Borg cube, leading to its destruction. eventually, the information gained from removing the Borg implants and nanites from Picard aided in the liberation of 7 of 9, among others. is it plausible? hell, no! the whole goddamn thing is implausible! it's fiction, people! but it's still a cracking good story with some object lessons tossed in for good measure. I like it.:)
WOW JASON!!! So much interpretive thought and speculation into something that is totally UN-REAL and unimportant in this life we now live in !!!!!
Les Sanders Cell phones are the direct result of kids who grew up watching the original Star Trek being inspired by the sci-fi tech and growing up to be scientists and inventors who greatly enhanced our world. Many other examples exist. Tell me again how imaginative thought is unimportant.
When real aliens and robots come, everything turns out to be fantasy
Robo-aliens: resistance is futile
Humans: but loyalty, innovation and adaptability an- and Hope!
Robo-aliens: All is irrelevant, prepare to be assimilated.
Seriously, we've never faced against neither robots or aliens and create television series like independence day to talk about our fantasies with final minute plots. We only ever faced against other humans.
You _do_ realize that Rikers response to the first failed rescue attempt was to try and blow up the entire cube?
Olórin
You beat me to it.
Not counting hand held scanning devices now being developed.
Riker's smug face in the end :D
4:31 Riker when he realises that he’s about to be demoted for doing a great job
Riker gets command, and what's the first thing he does?
names all the orders and moves after himself XD
He also separates the saucer. He liked doing that.
Standard procedure. They honestly didn't know if they were going to get Picard back. They were bracing for the worst.
I get the feeling that even when assimilated, Picard was still resisting in any way he could. Yes, River was unconventional in his tactics, but the Borg would have realised what he was doing if they had the full access to his thoughts and experience. To me, Locutas was a separate entity inside Picard that had the negative traits of humanity - ego, overblown confidence, all the things that the Borg thought were irrelevant or were against. That makes more sense when you consider Hugh later in the series.
In short, Locutas and the Borg were ineffective because Picard still resisted in any small way he could, perhaps locking some of the knowledge and experience in his mind. He was highly evolved in human terms which was why Q was so fascinated by him over all the other crew members.
I feel that this is one of the best episodes in the entire Star Trek genre, definitely within TNG.
The best episode was the one after this one, where Picard takes leave and returns home to France to see his brother and nephew, and where he deals with the psychological aftermath of his assimilation.
By far, the best episode of the entire series.
4:27, yeah, I'm that good.
100% OH YEAH!!!!
Damn right he is
Riker has a great "What now, biches?!" face
Riker,often ridiculed in the Trekverse showed how badass he actually is during this story arc.Even in this clip he seems to know what the Borg are going to do before they do it.
Riker knows Picard so well he can use that against the Borg.
I love how star trek always sends senior officers in it's most dangerous missions
Worf and Data are the only two crew members with the raw strength to fight Borg hand to hand.
Data has been known to carry a 400 LB anvil around like an empty briefcase.
While Worf maybe the Walmart brand of Klingon, his strength still far exceeds that of humans.
Senior missions call for senior officers.
@@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine No evidence that Klingon's have superior strength vs humans. Sure, they are generally much taller than an average human giving the advantage in that way, but that doesn't mean they are physiologically stronger. Compare that to Vulcans where we know they are in fact several times stronger and faster, i.e. able to deliver acceleration of movement in blows for greater force impact. In fact, we saw Sisko routinely able to beat up random Klingon warriors left and right, but he admitted he had no chance against a Vulcan.
After these brilliant, tactical moves, it’s safe to assume that only Data could beat Riker in a chess match.
Lt. Worf can remodulate his Bat'leth so that the Borg can never adapt to it.
The Borg apparently can't adapt to a tommygun either (see Star Trek: First Contact--Holodeck scene)!
It appears the Borg can adapt to energy weapons but not kinetic energy (punching, hitting, swords, bullets, etc).
Tattorack except for in star trek online
I love that worf literally pulled a sword on a borg drone in star trek first contact...
@@werideatdusk best way to beat them.
That smirk on Riker's face at the end of this clip is the greatest F*** y** thrown at the Borg ever.
They really could use Data strength to fight the Borg in this episode.
"Evasive maneuvers! Pattern: Riker - Alpha!"
"Riker - Alpha, confirmed."
*ship turns left*
He was truly ready for command after that!
Star Trek TNG love this episode too .☺️🖖
I liked the Battle Bridge set. such a shame they didn't use it more. I know separating the ship was expensive to shoot, but they could have done an episode where the main Bridge had to be evacuated or was hijacked and Enterprise crew members took over from the Battle Bridge
there is one episode where a group of klingons tries to steal the lower section
Separating the ship wasn't expensive. All the way up to Generations they reused footage of the separation that ILM did for Encounter at Farpoint.
That shot of the ship separating was used in Encounter at Farpoint, The Arsenal of Freedom, BoBW Pt2 and Star Trek Generations.
The new shots of the individual modules they filmed for this episode was likely expensive but they could have separated the ship more times and only used stock footage.
The battle bridge is actually seen in just about every episode of TNG. They redressed it and used it as the court room, various labratories, and dozens of other purposes. It was originally the bridge of the refit Enterprise from The Motion Picture.
@@mmmfloorpie When I said expensive I meant of the two sections in space sequences.
I was always fascinated by the battle bridge. A ship with TWO bridges? They should've used it more. It looked awesome.
@@bryansiebenmorgen Technically most naval vessels have the equivalent, you have the bridge and then you have the CIC(Combat Information Center).
Best episodes of the entire season and a perfect set up to First Contact movie.
Always thought this two-part episode was great and more accomplished than the TNG actual movies. Drama, suspense, and emotionally charged. This and Yesterday's Enterprise were faves.
Y.E. is my Fave TNG EP!
Yeah the Best of Both Worlds is the best "movie" TNG ever got. The finale of TNG is also one of the best show finales ever made it wrapped up the series nicely. Finales are often let downs and it was not.
Yesterday's Enterprise was a modified script. It was supposed to be the Generations movie, and involve the complete TOS and TNG crews, but it ended up being modified and turned into a TV episode. I've seen this explained in more than one article but can't think of any link at the moment.
1:00 Riker alpha, a fancy way of saying, "SWAY TO THE LEFT!!!!!!!" I wonder if "pattern riker zeta" involved doing the pelvic thrust??????
With their hands on their hips?????
@@timandshannon03 and bring your knees in tight?
LETS. DO. THE. TREK. WARP. AGAIIIINNNNNN
Borg collective "he's quite good"
Locutus "he's the best"
Wish they had Shelby on again. I liked the character a lot.
If anything she should’ve been on deep space nine
@@zt1053 Of course Kira was a very strong character, would have been interesting to see those two interact. I guess I like conflict between characters. I mean I remember the animosity between Odo and Worf.
if anything Shelby should have been the CnC in Picard. Her ambition is her thing, she would have made full Admiral very soon
riker pumped and dumped her then dismissed her from the whole damn universe
Eh, I think one and done was ok for Shelby, although one more appearance before All Good Things would have been nice, just to see where she ended up. Not sure where she would have fit on DS9.
His look at the subtile smile at the end, he knew he is the biggest badass in the quadrant.
You'd think they would have taken phaser rifles... but they weren't so popular at this time.
I just find it amazing that they would go all the way out to another galaxy in space with such expensive spacecrafts just to make this show.
Props to the cameraman.
1:23 - Theatricality and deception, powerful agents to the uninitiated..
Looking very Xanatos at the end there, Riker. :v
I keep on forgetting he did Xanatos from Gargoyles. Lol. Thanks for bring that up
My man, Pat. Mista don't play. Good eyes and ears. Especially for the non eighties babies, nineties kids. You need thug life 😎 for that one fellow old head.
I wonder if the Disney casting people saw this episode and asked, "What if we made Commander Riker a bit more like Lex Luthor?"
Go, plucked turkey! Go! I can remember how amazing it was to watch saucer separation for the first time. I'm glad they did it sparingly throughout TNG series. Though there were times I was like "come on! Do saucer separation!" during encounters as well lol. Now it's kinda cheesy but iconic
Love that smug smile on Riker at the end. The only thing missing is a pair of shades and a blunt.
Bottle of Jack too
4:27. That look... “Checkmate, bitches!”
What i find so awesome is that the shuttle thrusters can be fired fired from that panel next to the transporter pad.
They must have like Bluetooth v.596 in the 24th century.
I know he was a great cast member but DANGIT Riker deserved his captaincy at least a dozen times during the show run.
He wanted the Enterprise
@@VDAM1984 Like he said later to Captain Picard, "I always figured I'd have a shot at this chair." (Leans over the captain's chair in the bridge of the destroyed Enterprise-D)
Captain Picard: "Perhaps someday you still will. Somehow I doubt that this will be the last ship named Enterprise."
To me, Riker's face at the end said "...Well played, Guinan. Well played."
The writers are amazing. They way they adapt while keeping it all in context.
And I thought I've seen the most insane and impossible things happen, we get a "Hold my Beer and watch this!" moment.
This is one of my favorite sequences in ST:TNG. The characters I usually like the least are the playboys like Riker, but Jonathan Frakes plays the character and his complexities so well--he's intelligent, resourceful, commanding, charming, and knows how to throw out the playbook and make a new one. This two-parter is Riker's story more than anyone else's and it's the best episode in the series.
They could beamed over to the Borg ship with an antimatter bomb. Once they got off with Picard they could have detonated it. No more more Borg cube.
Just one cube. Plenty more where it came from.
Problem is, it's an obvious weapon and would be immediately identified as a threat. One the other hand one android and one Klingon whose phasers would be rendered useless after a few shots versus thousands of Borg? No threat there.
Cubes don't work like that, it might have been disabled but not destroyed. And where would Starfleet get an antimatter bomb? until Janeway used special phasic torpedos basically nothing could blow up a Borg cube
@@SantomPh Janeway used a torpedo to blowup a small Borg ship. So a much bigger antimatter bomb would destroy a cube. Where would they get one? They would build it. It's just that simple.
@@russell5078084 Hell it's just a case of multiple torpedoes at once rather than one. But its fiction, so we will never know why/what/how
The Enterprises most effective weapon against the Borg here and in first contact is Worf and Data lol Great scenes TNG peak storytelling!
Shelby was hot
The next generation is a very good movie and I am a science fiction fan and I have watched this movie often on Netflix without commercials with sir Patrick Stewart he is my favorite best actor of all time.
The best action sequence in TNG history
Why does it feel like the Borg invasion of whatever quadrant and the battle at Wolf 3 is the biggest highlight of my life?
The saucer separation is diabolical. From the time Picard sends a message home - "We have engaged the Borg", its nothing but pure exhilaration!
Riker is a good captain
He is in this episode, but in some other episodes he's shit. Inconsistent writing I guess.
Probably a production cost issue, but I always though it would be cool to utilize the shuttle crafts in a battle. Their own swarm of mini ships would be a cool site to see! Maybe just a few of them with enhanced weapons and shields, used as a distraction if anything.
True, they sorta did that with DS9 2x26 The Jem'Hadar, with the 3 runabouts and the odyssey
They did that in Discovery.
It looked unrealistic as hell.
@@mikevanroy9356 I'd imagine. Basically they would just serve as decoys. It's not like they would do that much damage.
I guess a fleet of Delta Flyers might do something, but it's too easy to pick them off
Only Worf and Data are strong enough and fast enough, to fight the Borg hand to hand if needed.
I like Data’s spin & fire, covering Worf. He’s emotionless, but sometimes gives off killer robot vibes.
4:27 I wonder if bushy beard Riker from the "THE BORG ARE EVERYWHERE TIMELINE!!!!!" ever felt confident enough during his battle with the borg to smile like that?????
STEJTHEGREATEST - Parallels! One of my most favourite episodes.
No his beard was too much for him to control.
@@poogie_ Mine too! "Not even for you Wife?" -- I SAW THAT LINE COMING!!
everything is irrelevant to the borg - except your compliance which they guarantee through assimilation.
only one captain got the Borg to cooperate
and that wasn't Captain Picard
it was Captain Janeway
fargeeks ye captain Mary Sue the best captain on paper but the worst and most boring on screen
The two part episode Scorpion was a great show. My mouth dropped open when I saw 15 Borg cubes fleeing. If they are fleeing then we better be scared of who they are running from.
1:34 I absolutely love that shot! It reminds me of the classic "star tours" ride, before Bob ignoramus ruined it.
Can't wait to see the two-parter in 20 days in the theatres! :D And on Blu-Ray in 25 days! :D
Nice of the Borg that they waited to fire until the separation sequence was complete. 😂
Yep!
The most-stressful event of my teenage years :D
I love that look on Riker's face at the end!
Riker giving one of the more epic s**teater grins in TV history at the end.
The battle bridge set was much improved with the redesign for season 2 when it was used as the bridge of the decommissioned USS Hathaway in "Peak Performance" and redressed here for this episode with the NextGen era Okudagrams on the displays.
“Incorrect strategy, No. 1” Yeah, right! 🤣
Riker-alpha-maneuver! Now!
Okay, just turn left like in the Kellogs frosties advertising.
Nice work Riker....nice work.
4:28 When you beat your older brother in Risk.
I love the "Electromagnetic shield resonance" heard when the shuttle enters it.
Thank You Loader. But I was looking for Ginny's report on the Borg to the captain.
This was good shit. TNG was an amazing series.
Data and Worf. The most hard core team possible?
Riker once said when Picard told him he was impressed “I learned from the best.”
He did indeed.