EV Carnage discovers the big Milk Float Lease Scam whilst driving an Audi Q4 with a mind of its own
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Jump in an Audi Q4 E-Tron Sport
Naturally stop at the services to charge up
Have a pee
Discover Milk Float Leases are an even bigger scam than the range on them
Drive off
And repeat
#futuremyarse #electriccar #evcars
Resistance is necessary
#WEFResistance
Too much resistance might lead to slower charging, and battery fires?? 😀
@@phils4634 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣#EmotionallyDamaged
Your freedom is going to controlled by the mileage allowance on a lease quote? Haha.
Far looks as dull as ditch water.£50,000!! Woludn't pay half that.
I would not give anything for it
Yup looks shite
Looks like an ordinary Kia to me.
So like a Q3 or Q5 then.
@@scorpiosq2963 Lease and fleet deals more attractive. No one is actually paying £50k. There are ones in autotrader, the longer range version, 1300 miles, as new and it’s £37k.
I’ve bought my last three ICE cars new for cash. I am free to do however many miles I wish, for as long as I wish (at least ten to fifteen years), I can get it serviced wherever I like, I pay no interest and best of all I like to see the dealer sweat when I say “no finance required, thank you”. Oh, and equal best, it’s not an EV. Future, my arse.
Same here, I bought my last car new with cash in 2015 and still have it. When I went back to pick it up and pay the dealer he couldn't find the paperwork and then said "It is on finance ?" Answer "No".
Handy thing cash.
Same here , bought every car outright..nothing too expensive & every car I've been free to sell on no ifs or buts !! Cash is always king lads n lasses 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🎉
And it'll cost you more than an EV would, but then it's your money and your choice.
@@oldgit15 yeah definitely 👍
I was having a discussion with a younger person the other month, they have an EV on PCP. It’s great they said, after 3 years I can just get a new one (as this one’s no good anymore)
The mentality of this generation is (in some cases) ridiculous. Once it’s done with chuck it away and get another one. It would seem that the people trying to save the planet are the ones destroying it 🤷
Yup. And they'll make you out as evil for resisting their evil schemes.
Should be a good used bargain for someone else to pick up there, good news all round.
Agreed. They don't think, they don't understand, and they don't care. They like to shout like its all us old fogies fault but at the end of the day it will take them 30 years to grow up if ever and then they will see the control system for exactly what it is. Too late!
@@oldgit15 those mileage limits would suggest it is not good for more than 30K miles over the battery life!
@@alastairharris1866Lease mileages are flexible, even mid lease. That the idiot hasn't bothered to do a minimum of research to find that out says much about him. Battery and drive train warranties tend to be 100000 miles/8 years. The scientists expect modern EV batteries to be good for 300000 miles.
About lease range, same in Sweden. Its usually 10000km a year (6200miles a year), and if you drive more, you will charge big time, making even a F-150 seem like a cheap option to drive. (Some charges 2 euros per 10km / 6.2miles). In Sweden average distance driven by people is around 15000km / 9300miles.
I drive 200 miles a week, just to work and back home, not to mention the trips to market, trips to Dr appointments, and when our kids were younger, trips to Boy Scout meetings, weekend camping trips to some far off State Park, sometimes out of State Parks, cross country meets, track meets, football practice, Friday night football games, basketball practice and games....
I was changing oil once a month back in those days!!!
@@toddmcclellan979 Ah, I drive around 30000km a year and If I got this Q4 E-tron, and I can only use a tesla charger since I can not charge at home, this Q4 would cost me a total of $48k for leasing, insurance and electricity... and after the 3 year lease contract ends I have to give the car back. Seems like a great economical thing :D :D My ICE car that I use to work, have cost me a total of $20k for the same period, but I own the car now and do not have to give it back :)
Next investment: lapel microphone.
I drove from Alice Springs to Geraldton it's basically 2 thousand kilometres across a desert, there was 1 filling stn approx half way at Yulara.
Toyota straight six 3.8 dohc 24V valve petrol, no worries.
The roof was smaller than a football stadium so there wasn't enough space for solar panels and windmills.
You also had the option to carry fuel in cans with you if needed. Not an option in an EV.
I have driven from adelaide to darwin and they had petrol stations every 250km in farms its the law in Oz
@@josephberrie9550 so people will be fine with milk floats it's not like there's a shortage of sunshine more like a shortage of drinking water and straight politicians.
And your point is ?
A few years ago I stopped at Moto Frankley M5 Southbound services. I went into the 'gentleman's' rest room for a No 1 .. As I entered I spotted another 'customer' at the urinals dropping a curly brown one ( No 2 ). He apologised saying the 'cubicles' were all occupied and his medical issues prevented him from cheek squeezing until a facility became available. I sympathised with him and turned my back while he completed his ablutions. As I cast my eye in the direction of the cubicles, I noticed that they were all empty ! ! .. I often thought what future his 'arse' had in store for him.
I too believe they want to limit our travel. But I think this is just a case of depreciation. They're trying to mitigate their losses.
Maybe the low annual mileage limit is to try and get you to lease 2 cars, thus skewing the figures to make it look like they are popular. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
£50k for a car. Madness! And it will be worthless in a very few years.
Does Morag visit this Channel, somebody tell her so she can contradict all of Tony’s reality checks and give us all a laugh!
Is it just EVs you cannot fit into the bay properly or are Charging Bays too short to take account of the room one requires to get to the plug and cable and operate the myriad of card swiping and touchscreen acrobatics required to get the darn things to come to life on the awful ‘Electricity Pumps’?
Forgive me for laughing, but I've done 22k miles every year for the past 4 years, in a car that cost £650 to buy outright.
Ev’s now have the ability for geo-fencing and geo-timing, meaning they will be able to control how, far and when you can travel, it may not be activated yet, but why the hell should a car even have this function, check out Geoff buys cars, Hyundai kona, this truly is a future my arse moment
You’d have to be daft or naive to think that only when the user can set a geofence that “they” would also use this feature. The ability to set a geo or time fence as a security feature is only utilising what is already there. Cars have been trackable and app controlled for well over a decade.
Almost everything about an EV car is subsidized by the government. Sticking.it to the poorer classes.
250-330 miles on a full charge? Good range my arse. 600 miles on a full tank of petrol or diesel is good range LOL. Never in 40+ years of driving have I encountered a fuel pump that only gave me half a tank, I've always got a full tank whenever I wanted to. The milk floats and the tech supporting them are an utter joke. Future my arse.
It'll be interesting to see the year's of ownership between ICE and EV cars. I keep my ICE cars for at least 5 years before I consider buying another one.
That Audi is Soulless. 😢
Interesting to know how much these charges have cost ? As i have a 16 plate Tucson 1.7 deisel with 37000 miles on the clock and i can fill her up for around £70-£80 snd drive 600 miles without stopping and i know i can drag a caravan from Wakefield to devon on one tank so ev's make no sense to me especially a £50000 one that a can only travel 170 miles that's crap 😔
I couldn't afford an EV or electric bike, and even if I could afford it I wouldn't bother!
Foolish is as foolish does.
5,000-mile lease? I drive 20,000 miles a year, only delivering newspapers. 🤣
how many bottles of milk will it hold?
I’m only taking a guess , but it’s known fact that batteries in EVs do wear out and are a consumable , and the more miles you put on the vehicle, the more the value of that battery vehicle will suffer more depreciation.
We all know how massively expensive an EV battery is, and it’s not only the worth of the vehicle that diminishes , it’s also the range of the battery.
So , it is doubly important for those who may want to resell an EV to try and keep the miles down and the range up to minimise depreciation.
You couldn’t pay me to own an EV.
It's also a known fact that ICEs wear out, are a consumable and cost a huge lump of cash to replace. Scientists expect modern EV batteries to last 300000 miles.
Worry not. Things are improving so fast you will want one soon and not need to be paid.
@@oldgit15 I expect my currently 6 year old ICE diesel will still be around well past 20 years and 200000 miles, 50k so far and no issues. The fuel tank will still hold 73 litres and provide a range of 500 miles at a minimum, it will have used less tyres, it will have been less harmful to the environment, as it would otherwise mean scrapping 2 EV’s in the same period and sending the allegedly recyclable batteries to Kilwinning, that is if the facility gets rebuilt and does not explode too often in the meantime.
"Scientists expect ..." It's amazing what people will believe when it suits them.
@@JayneBirch Are you saying you don't believe it to be true what scientists believe.
Most EV's are leased, local authority or company cars
And some people still keep putting stupid laughing emojies next to comments that people put up on social media saying that 15 min cities are coming and governments are slowly but surely restricting your movements by different ways blah blah because they think it's just ridiculous, and it's never going to happen. These people need to wake up because it is going to happen.
Why?
I don’t like to say this but….. you’re reading into in too much on this one. The reason the mileage is lower on the EVs in the advert is so they can show a lower more reasonable price to get people to look into it. You can up your mileage when you take out the lease but it will cost more
250 miles on a charge taking half hour minimum. Wow.
A new bracket...it's the future my.....🙂
My mate drove 10k over allowance, clock before every mot /service and You okay 😂
Trap 4, I need the exercise so those few extra steps all help. As for the Audi well yeah that's another trap isn't it if you're stupid enough to buy one.
That Tesla 3 works out at almost 90p a mile before you have even charged it up.
Saw one towing a caravan yesterday, hope he does not have to charge en route!
Geofencing is coming to a "travel zone" near you. (Note: I'm a deplorable, right-wing extremist, conspiracy theorist, so don't pay me any heed.) Stay mutual.
£50,000 😂😂😂 out of range for Joe Public
Rich man’s toy
That's what the lease deals are for. Make it affordable by the month, get to the end of the lease and you realise you own nothing. Amazingly people go for it just so they can drive an expensive car and look like they can afford it.
@@noggintube But when you buy a car and go to trade in you will have lost most of it's value anyway. When I was 17 and buying my first car my Dad said to me that if you have a car or a wife you will always have little money, thankfully he was half wrong but a car will always leave you poorer!
@@charlesgreasley736 that depends how you use cars. If you buy brand new and then replace after 2 to 3 years, yes there's probably not much in it, but you always have the option to keep the car as your own. If you decide to keep the car long term you get a better deal the longer you keep it.
The bigger issue is the MGFV, or the optional final payment to pay off the deal and own the care outright, or use any amount above the final value as a deposit on a new car. EV’s are worth less as their values have crashed and do not leave any funds towards the next one, negative equity in effect. Then you can get done over for excess miles and fepairs if the car is not in the required condition.
Yes, absolutely pointless. It's for stupid people who should stick to Corsas at McDonald's.
Look on auto trader. If you look at the mileage of cars between 2019 and 2021 you’ll find the mean mileage of cars is.
BEV between 15,000 and 20,000 miles
Petrol between 20,000 and 25,000 miles
Diesel between 40,000 and 45,000 miles
BeV drivers travel significantly less than diesel and petrol drivers which means the carbon manufacturing debt of the batteries takes far longer to pay back.
Tesla want to open a factory in India where the coal powered grid emits 820g of Co2 per kWh making one 60kWh battery emits 3million grams of Co2. It’s 2million g of Co2 for a battery made in China (520g of Co2 per kWh). Making batteries is a dirty business.
Yet more proof (if it were needed) that "50 Shades of Grey" is Volkswagen colour chart for car interiors.
I bought a one owner from new SAAB 93 petrol turbo. Cost me a months lease. (£500). Drove from Manchester to Algarve in Portugal. Not a problem EVER with that car. Had it for two years. Oil changes and tires only expenses (petrol). Gave over 40 miles to the gallon, no matter how she was driven. Lovely
Even the diesels couldn't average 50mpg!
50 mpg from a petrol SAAB ? Yeah OK mate
They were solid cars , but known for being heavy on fuel.😂
Agree with you 100% I run a cheapo Skoda Fabia diesel...170k miles... 65mpg... 16 years old..£35 tax. It's NOT for sale!!
@@dcasteaux9181 I had one. Only thing I had to do was new rear shocks. New rear springs made awesome difference. Enjoy!
50k for that. it's shite. the interior quality is terrible for a start. "sport " my arse.
Lol totally agree 👍
Or you could just buy a half decent ICE car for a couple of Grand with 12 months MOT and do as many miles as you like without having to camp up every 100 miles to recharge. If you're lucky it might last a couple of years at which point you can scrap it for 500 quid. No brainer!
I was a car salesman before I retired, for the past 5 years I've been driving
an 18 year old 1.6 petrol Focus that cost me £1200 plus my scrapper, around £1400 total. I got rid for £300 scrap, in exchange for a Xsara Picasso diesel
from a dealer that was at £1495 in November, so for £1195 I'll get another 5 years easily.
it runs like a sewing machine. Pay no more than £3000 for a good used car,
definitely don't go for this electric crap.
In that case, this video isn’t for you. Move along.
@@matthew5050 stop giving directives...
It's not your job to tell anyone what they can and cannot watch!
My car is 14 years old cost me £5000 ,hasn’t broken down in 3 years and it’s all right
VAG lying about range 😮 next they will be violating the clean air act, oh hang on 😅
Read the fine print and you will see it's a 48 month contract, 5000 miles a year, and 12 months down. Reason...the cars are not holding their value on resale. Most of the petrols are 2-3 years, 3 months down and 8-10000 miles. Reason...they hold their value on resale. Lease is all about residual value. They are basically just trying to trick you into thinking it's a good deal.
The EV’s were on 2-3 years too.
The government (clowns 🤡) will ,as they have shown next brilliant idea stop the sales of gas you can do that most of the co etc is from volcano and such
You just hit the nail on the head. This is all about control. Not only how far you can drive BUT how many miles per year. When do we all stand up and say ENOUGH!
If you want more miles then you pay more. They don't force you to only have 5k per year, it just makes the cost look better.
Why?
@@SW-by9ob you may be correct at the moment, however did you know that most modern ev cars have the ability (though at the moment it is not activated) for geo-fencing and geo-timing, so they will be able to control how far you can travel and when you can travel, check out Geoff buys cars, Hyundai kona
@@SW-by9obexactly. They always advertise the most attractive miles, down payment, monthlies and length combo. There were EV’s in that poster with a bigger allowance than the petrol quashqi.
That ship sailed when we accepted lockdown
What is it about these eeeveees that induces such a soul sapping experience? Anyone remember the late '70's early '80's when the car market took on a vibrancy and excitement with cutting edge designs Rover SD1, Triumph TR7, Ford (Baby) Fiesta, Vauxhall Chevy etc. Each one had its own distinct look... now? Blancmange!
Allegro, Maxi, Metro etc etc. that era had a lot of soulless cars too.
Probably down to computer aided design, and the push for efficient shapes for fuel economy. Add in the move to 'World ' cars and you get bland.
The SD1 and Triumph TR7 were hardly mainstream cars, they were certainly out of my affordable range, whilst the Fiesta was just a bland cheap and good runabout that you could buy with different engines and put 'go faster' stripes, etc. on.
Has nothing to do with EV's, the vast majority of modern cars look boring no matter what powers them.
£50K Wow, a nice an affordable milk float.
Nah, your alright, I'll still drive my petrol buggy thanks 😂
Whatever trap is free for me. I usually find them mostly full 😂
The UK and mainland Europe have agreed to bring back the ban of new ICE vehicles to 2040
Where did you hear about this?
Actually, after much pressure from Germany, Austria and Spain, Brussels has agreed to not ban the sale of new ICEs in the EU at all.
@@zitzong Found this on google.
The EU and Germany have reached an agreement that will allow some internal combustion engine (ICE) cars to be sold beyond 2035. A landmark vote had been delayed on the phase-out of petrol and diesel cars in the bloc, largely due to intervention from Germany's coalition government.27 Mar 2023
5,000 miles is enough for me.
Where is your evidence of this?
And lets not forget the EV experts never exceed 80% or go below 20% to optimise battery life, so only 60% of battery use but the I guess that's the problem for the second owners when these EVs have been handed back after lease or PCP.
There is not one manufacturer that states don’t exceed 80% or go under 20%. In fact they recommend it at least once a month. Much like revving to the redline or labouring the engine, you can do it and will likely never notice any issues but it does add to wear over the years.
I always charge to 100%. It’s user choice.
How many ICE drivers fill up when the gauge shows a half or a quarter and always put a set amount in so never actually filling up?
And yes, with my EV because I can top up on very cheap electricity overnight I do set an upper limit. In fact, I set it once and it's set until I change it.
I do this partly because it's good battery management for what is an expensive purchase but also because I don't want the car charging after the cheap rate overnight electricity window closes. I am happy for the batrery to run low as I near journey's end because I know that it will be getting a restorative charge whilst I sleep. I have not yet seen it below 5% though.
Sound economics. Good practise.
When we go on the occasional longer trip (over 200 miles) I will charge above 80% to give me greater range but so far I have never charged to 100% although the previous owner probably did. I got the car with just under 12,000 miles on the clock. When I stop for a comfort break I just plug the car in to take on some juice whilst I am tending to my own needs. I then just return to the car, unplug and go. No waiting, no inconvenience, no fuss.
I have worked out the real world range in the car in the depths of winter and the heatwave of summer so I know what to expect from it whenever I am using it. Surely the driver of an ICE vehicle knows how far his car will go on half a tank, quarter of a tank, or even when the gauge shows empty? I did when I ran ICE vehicles. If you don't then you are an idiot.
The official average range (WLTP) of my car is 262 miles. In the coldest, wettest, worst part of winter and doing short local journeys only I will see a range of 180 miles. Go on a longer run (20 miles up to 200 miles) I will get 220 miles. In the spring (now) or autumn I will get 230 miles around town and 260 miles on the road. In the summer I have had 308 maximum out of it but usually 290.
Oh, I bought my car outright for hard cash. Somebody leased it for 2 years and did 6,000 miles per year. I bought it from the lease company saving a huge amount from the "as new" price but with 6 years battery warranty remaining and 1 year manufacturers warranty on the rest of the car. The lease company added an extra 6 months to that but so far nothing has gone wrong.
I expect to keep this car for at least a decade because it does everything I need with absolute ease and costs me about 3 pence per mile* in fuel. The insurance is the same as the old ICE and other than an annual MOT and servicing (minus the oil etc of an ICE) there are no extra costs.
And finally, I live in a Victorian terraced house in the UK with no off-street parking and yet I can charge at home. How? Well, many UK local authorities are approving schemes allowing cables to be laid across pavements with proper cable protectors or even the installation of a cable gully where the cable is in the gully and the top of the gully is covered and flush with the pavement surface. So that 44% of people who cannot charge at home is probably closer to 30% now.
* This is inclusive of charging at home as well as the very occasional few extra kW's when taking a comfort break on a longer journey.
@@michaelgoode9555I generally fill a ICE about a 1/3 of a tank. It gets boring otherwise, plus I don’t want to carry the extra weight. Now I drive past the petrol station as people queue on a cold morning to fill up while I’ve just sat down in my warm car with a full charge. Can’t say I’m that envious.
Most people in these comments drive old cars and don’t want to be forced into buying old electric cars, which is fair enough. It doesn’t excuse the misguided ideas they have though. Talking about a public charger being an EV’s natural habitat yet there’s hardly an EV there.
Its alright. For £50,000. My £6,500 Mercedes E class is more than alright, for £43,500 less. What a fantastic deal the EV is.
When I was a kid. Electric cars were only found at Funfairs. Sometimes called dodgems and Sometimes called Bumper Cars 😅. The only exception was the trusty old milkfloats which were short on range and often seen limping back to the yard at a snails pace 😀. Things have come a long way since then admittedly but I tend to feel that Electric cars were in their rightful place on those limited little circuits at the Funfairs adorned by lots of screaming girlie's and brash young Teddy boys 🤣.
what? That interior (the dash) looks like the Audi A1 I drove... how can they re-use the interior from their cheapest car in the Q4?? :D
Because a 50k EV contains many £Ks worth of batteries, so the actual car has to be a cheaper model compared to the ICE versions, although they try to con people by adding 'sport' etc to the name.
@@noggintubeso basically your saying it's over priced crap?
@@noggintubeMakes me laugh, “Sport” model that weighs over 2 tonnes and takes 8.8 seconds to get to 60mph - oh and tyres that cost £250 a pop… unbelievable.
I think the pricing /mileage difference is to slyly suggest that EVs are 'about the same price' as the ICE versions, and when you sign up with them and put in your real estimated mileage you get a bit of a shock, but, by that time you have a salesman on the phone encouraging you to sign up
Another Brilliant Honest video . And as it happens! Car Manufactures should be fined for misrepresentation . How can they get away it . Most others suppliers have to abide these rules !
It's all about control. Control what we do, when we do it and how long we can do it for ! I feel very sorry for the next generation. All freedoms will be removed from them , and they'll look back at the history books and call us the lucky buggers , as we had a choice !
It's up to you, but if you think their numbers are deliberate misrepresentation you should prove it and sue them. Or carry on spouting drivel on YT.
Why on earth do people lease cars like that.
For the upfront price of leasing a car you will never own, you can buy an older super-luxury car that would have cost 80-100k new (Audi A8 / Mercedes S class, BMW 7 series and even some Rolls and Bentleys) I'll never understand the argument for "borrowing" a cheap plastic car with a touch screen and paying hundreds per month for the privilege, instead of owning outright an engineering marvel made from high quality materials
With a new lease you can pretty much guarantee costs. No way can you do that with an old S-Class.
That interior looks like total shi...
Clearly it depends upon the lease you take out..... Our old diesel covered around 8,000 miles per year. We swapped it for an EV with an 8,000 miles lease agreement... easy, no problem and it was cheap.
50k.. I can get a second hand decent Ford Focus , petrol for 5k.. Does the job.
Life IS like a box of chocolates, and that's the problem you see, they don't believe we deserve chocolates and want us to live off a box of shit instead.
... live in a box of sh1t! 😢
What happened to you? You fleece showed some fluff/dust traces in the Exeter part of the vid. By the time you were in Reading it looks like you had been attacked by an exploding Dyson; your fleece is covered in dust.
I have no idea! I am wondering that myself!
@@Evcarnage No dustcaps 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nano dust, courtesy of the fake clouds.
Not only do ALL car leases work in exactly the same way including for ICE and not just for an EV, but also your insurance does too. You have to give them an approximation of mileage use with notional boundaries at 5,000 miles, 8,000 miles, etc.
Might be worth checking your facts before publishing but I suspect the truth is not the message that you wish to spread.
£4800 a year a good deal for something that isn’t yours? Really is true own nothing and be happy
Because they realise most people in new cars are changing every 2-4 years, so what’s the point in owning?
I drove about 10,000 miles in my EV in the last year. It’s been absolutely fine and great to drive.
Is it me, or are the interiors on these new cars shite compared to one from the early 2000's? The steering wheel looks awful!
Good range 250 miles 😳🤣🤣🤣
There is always a puddle under trap 1. I always put it down to desperation. Perhaps I was wrong?
Drove one of these Audis from Doncaster down to Birmingham. Amazing suspension, great on the undulating roads from the prep centre. Best adaptive cruise control too. Still, not for me. I’d prefer a Toyota Corolla hybrid. All the benefits of electric ( instant power, smooth acceleration), with none of the downsides.
Drive a real car 50k miles and you've just broken in the engine. Drive a milk float 50k miles and you need a new £20k battery.
For gawd sake, more nonsense. I've done 105k in mine, battery at 90% capacity.
How does the range fair with heaters on or Aircon
The heaters are great. Short journeys in the winter ruin your Miles per KWH. The first mile with heaters and seats on workes out at 1.8! My first year in my Q4:- Winter driving 2.9 miles per KWH. Summer driving 4 miles per KWH. Over a full 12 months I've averaged 3.4 miles per KWH. I did approx' 10k. 2500 miles of that was on motorways.
If your use case suits them used EV's are an absolute bargain at the moment. You can pick up a 400hp AWD 21/22MY etron 55 S-Line, iPace SE or Polestar 2 DM for £25k. An absolute bargain compared to equivalent ICE models.
New EV leasing/PCP is absolutely a mugs game though. They depreciate so hard in the first 2 years that the numbers are ridiculous. Only any good as a company car tax dodge.
A new lease could work, but you’re right about the nearly new and pre-reg deals. List prices are meaningless.
I've just changed my diesel car for another diesel car and when I change in about seven years I'll buy another diesel ! This Vauxhall Combo Life 1.5 boasts 67.3mpg and i bet your 50,000 quid EV returns the equivalent of about 17mpg ! Am I right or am I right ?
400 quid a month £4800 a year... 5000 miles allowance ....
Thats virtually a pound a mile.... Plus charging costs, which are virtually the same as petrol these days... Averaging equivalent to 40 mpg, electric would be around 15p a mile.... So £750 to do your 5000 mile allowance, so roughly £5.5k to drive 5000 miles 🤣
200 mile trip equivalent to just over £200....
Cheaper to get a taxi with a chauffeur thrown in.. 😂
The punters are doing the sums and saying no thank you.
Why all this EV hatred? Fast, reliable and cheap to run.
If you have a garage.
If you don't like the millions living in condos you have to use public chargers, which have half the time either have lines, are broken, and costs just as much if not more than gas.
@@christopherderasmo5041 I live in an apartment block and have no problems charging.
When you set up you're lease deal you can choose the annual milage that suits you're needs. If you drive on average 10k per year then you select that option in the configurator. You can also factor in service costs, tyre replacement etc. If you only do approximately 5k per year then your lease is going to be less expense than a 10k one. Also the more deposit you pay upfront reduces your monthly payments. The highest annual milage I have seen available has been 20k per year . The milage is based on your lease term for eg 10k each year for 3 years so if you go over you're 30k at the end of 3 years you could incur charges.
If you go for the 'Deals' as shown , you pay through the nose whatever car it is. Do your research on prices, and push hard for a low cash purchase price. (borrowing from a Bank, etc. is often much cheaper) Then drive as far as you want without running into penalty mileage fees.
The amount of talking isn't a surprise - All we do is TALK about stuff BUT roll over and accept everything.
Why is that? Yes COWARDS. TALK TAL;K TALK.
You will own nothing and be happy.
Plus , wait untill it refuses to charge because youve spent your mileage allowance for that month.
When they have got all the Sheep renting these things because the cant afford to buy ...then they have got you!!!...up will go the rental charge!!!
Pay stupid leases get stupid prizes
between 270 and 300 miles means it will do between 170 and 220 miles,if your lucky.
Wrong. My i4 is rated at 326 miles. I can easy get 300 out of it in summer, and around 270 in winter, on a mix of A-roads and Motorway, driving at the speed limit. It can go further than my bladder on a charge.
EVs, half the car at twice the price.
Most cars have black or grey interiors...all Q4s have the same shape dashboard petrol or diesel its not an EV thing....🙄
I have just come across this Channel and what a load of nonsense, Before the Key Board Warriors get busy, I am an EV owner but I do not believe it’s the answer to motoring issues however it is part of the Transport mix. Let me explain further. The EV I have does what it says in the tin, I use it for Business 150 miles a day and it charges every night at home, now I know that not possible for everyone I have no issues with Charging in on a fast charge when I am about working or leisure the only place I had with charging was Blackpool I could only find one charger. And how do you explain I have been to the Cairngorms at Xmas on holiday the milage was 1500 miles from Cheshire and returned & it snowed and was cold with no issues Charging and no problem starting in the cold or very little battier Derogation. I have done that journey twice this year Plus business trips To Somerset & Devon plus the Lakes for leisure it extended the journey time to just over 90 minutes due to charging and before you ask it’s not a Tesla. The Battery range only dropped by 1 Kw, and no one mentions most EVs have two batteries one for propulsion and one for ancillaries. All it takes is planning and charging when you cannot when have to, we all need comfort breaks. For Work I usually have lunch whilst it is charging id needed, so why run the battery down to 1% that makes no sense at all. Have you looked on Zap Map and seen how many Fast chargers there are between ST Ives and Northampton I lost count of over 200 fast chargers. I have a range of 260 miles and it varies little on most driving conditions. I have been stuck in traffic on motorways for hours in the dark and rain and have had no range worries. On a fast charger it takes from 40% charge to 95% about 24-30 minutes so what’s the problem? To call them a milk float is silly if not downright stupid as a Milk float is as far-removed technology-wise to a modern EV as the Steam Car is the Combustion engine. I do agree that with Vans it's not suitable yet. Also, if you have driven Diesels in the '70s & '80s Diesels as I have both a Car & Van, they were slow and dirty but could do Hugh Milage This does not apply to some modern Diesels which can only do high mileages due to gearing and technology. Also, it is a fact that petrol engine history is littered with issues and failures that’s a fact. It took time to develop the combustion as now with an EV development is ongoing. No one disagrees that EVs are not there yet, but in future, the Solid-state battery perhaps is the future for EVs, however Hydrogen I doubt that it is (Remember the Hindenburg, anyone?) You can do all the video challenges you like and if it's not like for like then the E V will fail. It is a myth that you will be having your combustion engine car taken off you in 2030/35 combustion engines for good are bad will be around for many years yet. So, the EV is part of that mix. The dealings I have had with EVS will not deter me from having another one. the infrastructure has improved drastically in the last two years it's not there yet but in my experience, it is getting there. When to time comes to change, I will look at all options whether that be EVE or combustion depending on Lifestyle & work so you can rant as much as you like. I will say the EV has reduced my Fuel Bill from £90 per week to just under £30 per week. I don’t understand people like you Tubers & so-called influencers ranting on about this if you don’t like EVs don't buy one it’s as simple as that, We must respect each other's views if people drive EVs is their choice it’s my choice to have an EV just as it is your choice to drive a combustion Engine and we must respect each other not keep doing silyl rants about EVS Yes it heavy Car but who mentions the weight of a Modern Combustion SUV? And then there are fires but there are fires in all cars and vans no one looks at those statistics you can go on & on and on comparing. Of course, we have freedom of speech to say what we like within reason however there are two sides to every story., however, there are more important issues in life than how far can an EV go. Yes, it's an important subject but we have got the message so please let all move on It is a dead subject it's pointless. I now wait for the keyboard Warriors to go ballistic should be fun! Because you will not wind me up cancelling my views.
That's not the only 'scam' about leases..........just compare HP/PCP and leases.......key words- halves/thirds/voluntary termination.
Cheap to rent because nobody's going to pay 50 grand for that!!!
Those lease deals are a right joke lol. Not only is the mileage allowance on EV's a load of crap. But you have to find between 9 and 12 months of the monthly rental charge to pay up front too. Which in the Tesla's case would mean finding a deposit of £3312. Future my arse. Oh and I knew all along that Tony would not get 270 miles of range out of that thing lol.
It’s no different for a petrol or diesel car. There were two EV’s on his first look at the poster with an 8k allowance. The UK average at the moment is 7,400 miles a year.
50k to light up the pavement and waste range, not a chance of getting my money, £500 buys you a car that works on demand,
Had a go in a Q8 etron sportback, i don5 know how Audi can justify the 70k price tag for a base model, the interior was nothing special, the range was nowhere near the claimed range, there was nothing about it to rave about or recommend.
Look at all those full chargers it’s so busy how did you manage to charge that car that you’re delivering to its new owner.
I said it was EXETER!!!
Worked in EXETER for 20 years.
WILL NEVER BUY AN EV.
Love David and Lily 18 year old TINO owners at about £50 a month running costs.
I live in Spijkenisse; can take the subway (Metro) to The Hague (change somewhere in Rotterdam from one subway train to the next; out, wait, in).
Better than having to go to a train station (somewhere across the river) and get in a grimy dark¹ noisy train.
Better than the bus; that's much slower, loads of stops and involving no fewer than 4 line changes. And that's before you take the traffic congestion into account.
*YES,* the Metro is my favourite EV. 😊👍
¹ much smaller windows than the Metro has and THAT is nice and CLEAN
I get 600 miles to a tank of petrol and it only takes 10 minutes to fill up, and best of all, after 10 years, it will still hold the same amount of fuel as it did when it was new. I paid £9.4k for a C200SE Estate Auto with 154k miles and 3.5 years old ex corporate lease. I think I dodged a bullet with that £50k pile of doo doo.
Any idea why he could only get charged to 80%? Some limitation imposed by the car's system, or by the charging station?
Just curious.
You can set the max charge level in the on board computer for when you're charging at home and don't need max range daily as better for the battery life, and 80% is optimum.
Simple to change it to 100% when going on a longer run.
@@SW-by9ob That makes sense - thanks.
The driver should RTFM.. It defaults to 80% unless you tell the car to charge to 100% Two reasons for this:- (1) the charging curve on a lithuim battery slows down exponentially after 80%. (In English that means that a car on
You obviously don’t understand the methods of calculating lease payments. You can state the mileage parameters to suit yourself. It’s shown in the way you point out, to give a reasonable monthly cost. Nothing to do with a grand conspiracy. If you don’t like the interiors from Audi,don’t use one. Then you don’t have to look at it. Simples.
I've got two EVs at the moment, a top of the range Porsche and a similar Jaguar. They're absolutely fantastic, so I don't know what all you people putting them down are on about.
They're ridiculously fast, extremely economical and literally the only fault I can find with them is if you go mad and take a corner too fast, they tend to fly off and get stuck under the sofa....
The mileage restriction is down to depreciation (and therefore resale value) due to battery degradation. Who wants to buy a high-mileage EV?!
My car cost me 1000 40.000 miles does everything I want cheap ins part worn tyres. 500 quid a year except the petrol. Yep gonna pay 33.000 to do what I do in a year for 500 quid
The Audi has a battery life extender setting so will default to 80% unless you go into the charging settings and slide it to 100%. It’ll then charge up. It would have got you to your destination based on that. It will default back to 80% again afterwards.
1984 ?
evs just another disposable item, depreciation on re sale values prove , outdated every yr , beyond economical value to repair , like the first digital watches £130 from argos 2yrs later £5
Interesting and very entertaining as usual. I always look forward to your videos. Keep up the good work.
So if you drive more than 5000 miles to work a year, you will have to stop working right? Do you think that government's have thought this through? No is the answer
Tony,why dont you do an video of a diesel transit car transporter with sall electric car on the back compared with a small electric cat over 250 miles or so ,compare costs ,time ? would be really interesting and may well collect al ot of views