Ive been using one of these for around 14 years, best thing I ever bought, it must have saved me thousands of hours, mine is as good as the day I bought it.
Bought a wireless spacemouse 3 month ago and this is the best thing i have done in a very long time :-) .It is a very solid product and you feel a great freedom when using it .It is very easy to get used to .
Kim Nielsen Same here. After watching Lars for ages I got a second hand wireless one too from the US. I was amazed at how intuitive it feels/became after a bit of practice.
Thanks for this Lars, I had forgotten that I bought one of the Space Navigators years ago and never really used it. Just dusted it off, plugged it in and I'm up and running. Awesome.
Just got one off Amazon for $109 shipped last week. Went through the set up and training program that it comes with. Took about 30 minutes. Love it! I can't imagine going back to just a mouse. If you have $100 bucks to through down you should definitely get one!
I bought my 1st space navigator 10 years ago for use with solidworks and I am now using a spacemouse pro with Creo. The engineer who first introduced me to them told me he'd never do Cad work without one again and he was right.
GREAT Video Lars! I have been watching all of your videos and know that recently you upgraded your setup. I have to say that I enjoy and learn a lot from you and appreciate your easy to follow approach and enthusiasm you bring to it all. That being said, I would have to say that today video was TOP NOTCH. The Intro was great and the added personality you brought was just awesome. Made me smile and laugh. Keep up the great work!!!
We have over 40+ engineers in my department at work and we couldn’t work effectively without these. They are a great tool. Steep learning curve, but once you get use to it, it’s almost impossible to go back.
I have been inspired by Lars in the past (and I miss his down to earth helpful videos - but fully understand the effort and time they took). Anyway, I am a home used doing bits and pieces in Fusion 360 (for 3D printing and laser cutting) and I found that my right wrist was starting to hurt (like pull on the muscles/tendons leading into the thumb). So, as Lars is someone I respect I looked at the Spacemouse in some detail. I ordered a wireless one and it arrived today. I have been using it in Fusion and it will certainly take some time to get the acurate finesse that is needed BUT even as a beginner I found it better than mouse wheel, hold mouse wheel and holding down keyboard buttons. I even found it useful in scrolling/zooming other programs. I think that it will have been money well spent. By the way from the UK it was cheapest to order direct from 3Dconnexions rather than dealers or Amazon. Thanks again Lars.
I have the wired version with all of the buttons. It's great and money well spent. I don't use the buttons either, but the shape of the base makes it easy to keep it oriented properly.
I have one of them at the work!! It's amazing!!! I learned in the hard way... i didn't know how the heck this works at the begining... but after a week using it 2-3 minutes a day (i used to prefer the Scroll button instead)
Just wanted to let you know that I bought one (SpaceMouse Compact) based upon your recommendation, and it is just wonderful! I really like it, and it has sped up my CAD work immensely! I was able to use it awkwardly after 1 day, and it took about 3 days before I was completely comfortable with it, and now I am working much faster with it. Please keep up the good work! (ps. I'm moving to Fusion 360 from Alibre, so your insights are very much appreciated!)
I've been using one for 10 years now. I couldn't live without it. The company I work for uses NX and it works flawlessly. But I do not use any of the buttons, I still use my keyboard. I also just use the scroll wheel on my regular mouse for zooming in and out. Anyway, that's just my two cents worth.
Ohh so that's how you move so smooth in these tutorials. That's a cool gadget. Seems useful, and a nice way to increase ergonomics / save your right hand wrist.
Lars, I've owned and used my 3D Connexion Cad Mouse and SpacePilot Pro for about 3 yrs. I do have some of the buttons programmed for some functions, easier than looking up keyboard commands. I love them! They are great for CAD/CAM and I also use them for "normal" functions. I thank you for all of your valuable info, and please keep up the excellent work.
I was able to get an enterprise 2 kit through work. So it comes with the cadmouse pro and mouse pad and honestly I love every single piece. It is an absolute game changer. Going back to a 2 button mouse is terrible. navigating is so much easier. My right wrist feels so much better because i'm able to work with both hands now. It looks expensive until you use it and realize it's an absolute must have.
Hehe, love your intro ;) I've had and used several of these since the early 2000s. Everything you said about these is true. Sometimes I've had to do modeling on-site somewhere and forgot my mobile wireless space mouse and regretted every minute of it. Contrary to your use of the larger one, I love setting up and using the buttons for quick access to my common commands. Takes only a couple hours for the button locations to become second nature for me... I just have to refrain from changing the button short cuts or I'm messed up for the next few hours as my brain struggles with the switch!🙄
I got one of these 3D mice the wireless version 6-8 months ago I use it in 3dsMAX & I feel like I can't live without anymore it's even fun to use, plus the quality of the product is on the next level! I love 3D Connexion, thanks man that was a great video!
I used one of the original SpaceBalls in the 90's on our SGI's with Ideas, Catia, ProEngineer, etc at GT and it was amazing. I bought one of these new ones and absolutely love it. Like others have said, watch for used ones and as Lars said, they are really well built and last. Unfortunately one program I've found that doesn't work is Vcarve Pro and they've said they won't support it.
I bought an older used Spacepilot pretty cheap on ebay for use at home and then one of the guys in the computing department at work gave me one. Apparently it had been ordered, but never used and was about to be thrown out. So I then had the same setup at home and at work. You often see batches of older models being sold cheap. I really miss having one when I have to show someone how to do something in fusion on their computer and I hate the limited realestate of a laptop. Then again, when I'm at work I miss my 43" 4K Monitor!
I too bought a recent edition Space Navigator on Ebay. Still was quite expensive, and I feel that I might have been a bit more patient. But going mad trying to get some coherent and fluid "camera" moves. Still awaiting its arrival. Now I have to find the best version of a companion mouse....it will have to be a steal :-)
Just talked my boss into getting one of the newer SpaceMouse Pros. Still having a bit of a learning curve, but it does make part and assembly navigation a breeze.
Thx for your helpful tutorials and tips Just started with Fusion 360 few day ago and just for hobby use to get the full workfow for my 3D printer a month ago. But even the small time I'm in this new hobby I love playing around with Fusion that much I just ordered one.
Just to echo other comments, the rubber coating degrades over time. I also had to remove the cap (tricky operation), clean it off, then use Plasticoat Rubber to reapply the comfort finish. Generally I tend to use the mouse and keyboard.
I got the $109 version of the Space Navigator on Amazon back in November of 2017 and I love it. I don't think I could go back and use Fusion 360 without it. The first thing I do when I load Fusion 360 up and then my model is grab the Space Navigator and start moving around the model just because it look so cool on the screen. I wish it worked in some of my games I play. :)
Hi Lars any chance you can do a vid on editing previously made models as I seem to find after they have been created I can't edit them ! Maybe there's a setting or constraint I'm missing. Great vids as always
Hi Berkeley Jones Thank you for watching! Do they have the history tree at the bottom? If not, check this out: th-cam.com/video/2OZ7AuMXDJ0/w-d-xo.html Best, Lars
Dear Lars Since each day I follow your tutorials and I'm starting to love Fusion and try to learn a bit everyday Still I'm a hobbyist and I can not afford to buy even the $100 one, that is why I went online and got a $50 one old model out of Ebay. That seems to still work under windows 10, If over time still works and improves my Fusion360 experience then I will consider buying the $100 one if is worth it. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for the recommendation on 3DConnexion. I got the wireless space mouse/cad mouse combo. You are right that it will take a bit to get used to it, but I got it this afternoon and I'm already in love with it.
Yes great video! I got one of the older (Space Explorer) 3dConnexion mouses and it works but I'd like to manipulate .ISDZ (Augmented Reality) files with it on my Macintosh computer, but I haven't figured out how to do that. Any suggestions?
Funny that I was just wondering what my coworker in our toolroom was using when looking at his models and sure enough he's got one of these to look at the die models for the parts we make. Good chance that I stumbled across this looking for a Fusion 360 tutorial.
Wow great timing! I literally just got a second hand (but new unused!) SpaceNavigator (I paid £60 / $80) - the smaller one without the wrist rest and extra buttons in this video. Its amazing, takes a bit of learning though. I am starting to get it without thinking now after a few hours of use. Makes navigating so smooth and easy, like having the model in your hand! I suggest slowing down the speed at first (try about 1/4 the scale then slowly up it as you get used to it). Its really customizable, can change the axis, the buttons, even setup your own macros and "wheels" in the button menus etc. But as Lars mention, I find I prefer to use keyboard buttons for things like "line" "circle" etc. And yes the quality is super awesome, soooo smooth!
But can you use it in the midst of an operation? That would be the biggest game changer for me. Often there are multiple things that need to be selected where rotating the model would help.
I have used the Space Navigator for many, many years and it works really well. The only complaint I have is that the rubberized coating on the knob breaks down after a few years and becomes really icky. I had to use alcohol and lots of elbow grease to rub all the coating off. Underneath the coating is a shiny, smooth plastic surface.
Thanks for this video. I was looking into it but for the moment I managed to convert a old Logitech game controller to achieve somewhat the same thing...since it's only a hobby for me and I only spend 3 to 4 hours a week in Fusion. Don't see myself spend that kind of money right now,,,maybe eventually but not yet.
Great review but no one using one of these says anything about adapting to using a new device with your left hand. IF your right handed Ive always wondered how you adapt at using it with your awkward left hand?
This is on my list of things to buy for a couple of years now. i absolutely hate to click and hold the mousewheel or klick on the "overview cube" every time. Tell connexion to buy you a beer. i just ordered the standard USB version.
Hey Lars, just wondering do you have some suggestions/ video content for how to setup the two radial menus available? I understand how the app works to change the buttons just battling to know which shortcuts should go where. Cheers!
I'm brand new to fusion3d (just finished the junction box tutorial) and I was wondering how you manipulated the drawings so smoothly. that is the most frustrating part of learning CAD is the time I waste trying to get the drawing in the orientation I need. So..while my wife is asleep I ordered a space mouse. :)
Thank god for google. I was wondering what mouse you used. Any updates? Do you use anything different? I love this channel. I do this for fun and I may make a career change. I love 3d printing, cnc and designing things with autodesk. I wish I had these tools when I was 12.
Lars, thanks for the link, I was wondering if you could help me out with another thing, I saw the model of the car you have on display, and I've always wanted to do something like that but since there are no exact measurements or a blueprint for that matter, how do you go about it, how do you start your process, from the direction wheel to the bodywork. Thanks for your time!
Hi Ed Man Thank you for watching! Most people start with a picture, just like in this video: th-cam.com/video/AtE7KvKrjXw/w-d-xo.html You would use the sculpt workspace
I usually do CAD on my trackpad because I design on my laptop and usually it comes up pretty unprepared. Everything more that I need to carry seems excessively bulky, and with a hotley for the lacking middle mouse button it is actually fine
I have to admit that I am not a computer expert. I’ll recommend you look at this knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html
It's a great device, may take some time to get it integrated into one's workflow; but luckily it is not a mouse replacement. Its great during a review / spot check period for sure as you would be using a 2d mouse and likely meta keys on keyboard or house and with the 3d mouse its a smooth joystick / helicopter like exportation of the design.
Stick with the simple one. My advice after 10 years. I had Pilot and Pilot pro, for 9 years. 90% of your time will be on rotation, zoom, pan and couple commands. I use eight shortcuts on the two configurable buttons. The comfort is great, your mind will sink in the project in seconds ! Once again stay on the simplest, 60£ !
My SpaceMouse, the rubber on the bottom hardened up, so it wouldn't stay still and the rubber on the knob was pealing off. I need to buy a pro one day. Part of the problem I had was that I only had one, so going from work, to working at home was a pain to adjust back and forth.
I was ready to place an order for the wireless combo until I noticed the CAD Mouse supports BlueTooth but the SpaceMouse requires their USB dongle. I'm on a MacBook Pro with USB C, so that means an additional adapter, too. What are you guys in my situation doing that truly want wireless without additional cables and dongles? Thank in advance!
Hi scottosds Thank you for watching! YEs, as you can see in th4 video, I do have an extra dongle so I can run the usb dongle on my mac. I'm not a big fan of that, but that is Apple's fault in my opinion
I agree that the decision by Apple to ONLY include USB-C on their "Pro" line doesn't seem right. However, since every notebook I've had over the last 5-7 years has included built-in Bluetooth, I think a worse decision was 3DConnexion not to support such a standard, especially when it applies to a portable solution. I will probably still buy their stuff because of your recommendation, but am really disappointed in having to use a wireless dongle when wireless technology is already present. Thanks for the videos and the recommendation.
I have recently started using Fusion 360 and Inventor for paying jobs. I have also been fighting against buying the Enterprise version because of the cost - but I am a gadget-freak and love the cool stuff! I am pretty certain I would not use the buttons either for anything other than non-CAD features (if that is possible). 3DConnexion probably will not like this comment, but thank you for saving me from myself - I have to pay for this with my own money. Funny vid - loved the screen cavorting in the background, but the music - good, but waaay too loud. :D
Correct me if I understood well, both 3D navigator control cap are same viz a viz how they navigate & only difference between the two is number of programmable buttons
Marshall Wollum You can. At 4:16, when the user interface for programming the buttons is shown, you can see that "keyboard" is one of the options. The wired Space Mouse Pro has shift, alt, ctrl, and esc and I use those constantly.
Hey Lars, I want to thank you for your great videos. They're VERY helpful. I have a 3Dconnexion Enterprise that I use with Modo, Rhino, SketchUp, 3DCoat, etc. but in Fusion 360 I can't find a way to constrain the y axis so that it remains vertical when I rotate (AKA Lock Horizon) I have Constrained Orbit checked so that SHIFT+MiddleMouse will orbit with the horizon locked but as soon as I navigate with the 3Dconnexion mouse the horizon is no longer locked and the model is allowed to roll. I didn't find anything in preferences that has the desired effect. What am I missing? Thanks
Hi Gregg Johnson Thank you for watching! I am on the road right now and did not bring any devices. I would recommend that you post on the forum about this. BEst, Lars
Super god video Lars. Det var ikke svært at finde ud af du er dansk. Flag i bagunden og den samme tåbelige danske accent som jeg selv har. Super good video Lars. It wasn't hard to find out you're Danish. Flags in the back and the same silly Danish accent as I have myself.
I've got a Space Pilot Pro (older model than yours) and I'm finding it a little difficult to stay orientated. Is there a way to set the SPP in constrained orbit?
Hi Shaun Bell Thank you for watching! I'm pretty sure that if you right-click you can set the orbit origin. But, I think most of it comes with some practice
Don't let Saunders see this or he will blow a gasket! I've got 3 of the basic type (inc one of the portable version) and wouldn't be without them. They also work with Microsoft Office apps, 3D Acrobat docs etc.
Heheh yes, one of my longest subscriptions! But he seems to have set his mind against 3D mice. We're all human! BTW, what is the purpose of the controller on the wall behind you? Is it for training? Seems to be running g code much of the time.
yes ok , but what about is comment about the mouse at one point is he right. please notice I'm evaluating the need for that thing. And what is the needfor the new standard mouse with the 3d mouse , is it a must or just for... is it more precise compare to a standard one , was it worth the price? that are the question i need to answer , thanks !
Hi Lars, one question to the Spacemouse Pro wireless. I've changed the Z axis to be up in default modeling orientation. Unfortunately each time I use the "Isometric View 1" it changes the view proper fitted but with Y axis up (as if I didn't changed the setting) and not as if I use the "home" button in view cube. Do you have any idea how to modify the "Isometric View 1" so it show in proper orientation with Z up? Thanks,
I do not. Sounds like it could be a driver problem. Might not be a bad thing to post about it here forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-support/bd-p/962 Sorry I’m not to more help
did you experience camera movement problems? In such way that when you have some kind of prolonged model (lets say 300x10x10 mm) you usually get stuck with camera movement; sometimes it won't move in one of the axis (fusion makes sensitivity on that axes very low) or something like that; you get into situation where you can't Comfortably rotate/pan/zoom with SpaceNavigator;
Hi Evgeny Garanin Thank you for watching! I know that have been some driver issues....I think I see it more on Mac;s than on Windows machines.....Not 100 percent sure thought. Best, Lars
@@cadcamstuff yep definetely I had more discomfort on my Macbook than on Windows desktop PC! Thanks for sharing experience :) I use your videos as first place to go when I need to learn new technique.
Hej Lars. Jeg tænker på at købe sådan en SpaceMouse Wireless til brug i Unity, men kan ikke rigtig finde info derude om der overhovedet er support for sådan et device i Unity. Er det evt. noget du har erfaring med? Unity er et gratis værktøj til at udvikle spil i 3D og 2D.
Does anybody have the same issue as I do? The side rubber pieces (between the 'metal' and the buttons) of my 3DConnexion CadMouse Wireless seems to be stretching with use and is now too big for the gap it is meant to be filling - and this after only using the 3DConnexion equipment for 5 months. This results in a very uncomfortable grip and that has been quite an embarrassment in the office after spending $160 on a mouse that now looks like a piece of broken equipment.
hi good video which support for me to 3d space mouse which i have ordered. can you please share your system information of desktop. which i have my i5 5th gen hp laptop with 8 gb and 500gb hardrive & amd 2 gb it lag on working with heavy assembly file
I purchased a space mouse. When it works its great BUT, the mouse driver stops working and the unit has to be unplugged and reconnected often! I contacted 3dconnexion and was given a work-around (basically unplug and reconnect) REALLY a work-around how about a fix!
You can also do a control alt delete and stop the 3dconnexion service, then restart the exe, I keep meaning to write a reboot driver script, I'll put a comment up here if I get around to it.
Ok, providing you have installed the software in the same folder as me(if not change to your path), try this: Create an empty text file on the desktop, open in notepad, copy/paste taskkill /f /IM 3DxService.exe start C:\Program" "Files\3Dconnexion\3DxWare\3DxWinCore64\3DxService.exe /b exit save, exit, rename the file to RestartSpaceMouse.bat Afterwards you can create a shortcut and add it to your quick launch if you wish.
I love my SpaceNavigator and have been using many years. But MacOS Catalina as killed it. 3DConnexion had like half a year to work on their drivers but dragged their feet on it. Now Catalina is out and the device is not ready. If there is an alternative, I would buy it and abandon 3DConnexion.
I work with this Thing for 10 years, its worth every cent, but the Quality is BS. After a few months all the rubber gets off and gets a disgusting look and feel. And we have a lot of these mice in our company, its the same thing with all. But theres no alternative... so what?! I will stick to it because i cant live without it.
Not sure how people get work done in 3D Space without a 6DoF Controller like that. I for one have a 3DConnexion SpacePilot Pro which is like the predecessor to the SpaceMouse Enterprise they now sell as their top-end flagship model. Never regretted that purchase and I'm not even working in the field that makes use of that - Just a hobbyist.
Anyone suggest a fair companion mouse? Dizzying array out there' Just bought a used Space Navigator so I am tapped out. Dying for it to arrive. I have been using a 15yr old Apple Mouse with micro trackball :P Yes I do like to get some mileage out of my gear.
Hi Chris Leech Thank you for watching! 3D Connexion does have a wired and wireless mouse. I like them, but I don't think they are anything different than a Logitech mouse for example
Hi Lars great video :) Just wanted to mention that as well as the fact it is a top end 3 buttons mouse, built specifically for CAD, the 3Dconnexion CadMouse is different mainly because of our software! The mouse is integrated into most 3dcad software along with the SpaceMouse through the API, so that buttons and operations can be mapped for different functions for all your different programs, and also even specific areas of each app. You can even program it to run common commands in a sequence with a single click, or open a radial menu :)
Lars.. I have used the 3DConnexion Space Mouse Wireless for a long time now. It is probably the best peripheral I have ever bought. Its too bad that none of the 3D printer slicer software applications support it. If you want to take wrist papering to the next level, ditch the mouse and get a trackball for your mouse hand. I use the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman. Best trackball ever. Its too bad they stopped making it. They do have two other ones though. Get a trackball you will love it. www.pricesmile.com/logitech-cordless-optical-trackman-t-rb22-new-usb-ps-2/
There not cheap but looks like it would be a good investment ..its going to have to be a Ebay job ...keep the video come evry day with you is a school day:-)
Lars, I would love to learn by watching your video. But, all of the details in your videos are so blurry that I cannot follow what you are doing. How do I fix this problem (I assume that you do your videos in high resolution). Thanks. PS Many people have recommended your videos. PPS My zoom on the wheel only zooms in and does not zoom out - any suggestions.
Ive been using one of these for around 14 years, best thing I ever bought, it must have saved me thousands of hours, mine is as good as the day I bought it.
Bought a wireless spacemouse 3 month ago and this is the best thing i have done in a very long time :-) .It is a very solid product and you feel a great freedom when using it .It is very easy to get used to .
Kim Nielsen Same here. After watching Lars for ages I got a second hand wireless one too from the US. I was amazed at how intuitive it feels/became after a bit of practice.
Thanks for this Lars, I had forgotten that I bought one of the Space Navigators years ago and never really used it. Just dusted it off, plugged it in and I'm up and running. Awesome.
Nice!, Graham, Thank you for watching!
Just got one off Amazon for $109 shipped last week. Went through the set up and training program that it comes with. Took about 30 minutes. Love it! I can't imagine going back to just a mouse. If you have $100 bucks to through down you should definitely get one!
That is awesome to hear Team Wyman Scale Design .Thank you for watching the videos
I bought my 1st space navigator 10 years ago for use with solidworks and I am now using a spacemouse pro with Creo. The engineer who first introduced me to them told me he'd never do Cad work without one again and he was right.
Hi ronan1501 Thank you for watching!
I agree with him also :-)
GREAT Video Lars! I have been watching all of your videos and know that recently you upgraded your setup. I have to say that I enjoy and learn a lot from you and appreciate your easy to follow approach and enthusiasm you bring to it all. That being said, I would have to say that today video was TOP NOTCH. The Intro was great and the added personality you brought was just awesome. Made me smile and laugh. Keep up the great work!!!
Thank you FENATECH Happy to hear you liked this one!
Man. You totally sold it to me. Even better than the official trailer and ads! :D
We have over 40+ engineers in my department at work and we couldn’t work effectively without these. They are a great tool. Steep learning curve, but once you get use to it, it’s almost impossible to go back.
Awesome product!!! A must have.
I was just looking at those to buy one, now I shall!
Thank you.
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
And I am sure 3D Connexion is thank you also :-)
I have been inspired by Lars in the past (and I miss his down to earth helpful videos - but fully understand the effort and time they took). Anyway, I am a home used doing bits and pieces in Fusion 360 (for 3D printing and laser cutting) and I found that my right wrist was starting to hurt (like pull on the muscles/tendons leading into the thumb).
So, as Lars is someone I respect I looked at the Spacemouse in some detail. I ordered a wireless one and it arrived today. I have been using it in Fusion and it will certainly take some time to get the acurate finesse that is needed BUT even as a beginner I found it better than mouse wheel, hold mouse wheel and holding down keyboard buttons.
I even found it useful in scrolling/zooming other programs. I think that it will have been money well spent.
By the way from the UK it was cheapest to order direct from 3Dconnexions rather than dealers or Amazon.
Thanks again Lars.
I have to share my experience on after sales support of this product. it took and 12 emails, 38 cals and almost 6 months to replace a faulty product.
I have the wired version with all of the buttons. It's great and money well spent. I don't use the buttons either, but the shape of the base makes it easy to keep it oriented properly.
Hi Dustin Skye Thank you for watching!
THat is a good point with the orientation!
I have one of them at the work!! It's amazing!!! I learned in the hard way... i didn't know how the heck this works at the begining... but after a week using it 2-3 minutes a day (i used to prefer the Scroll button instead)
Hi Hanlly Batista Thank you for watching!
YEs, that is how I had it too.
Best,
Lars
Just wanted to let you know that I bought one (SpaceMouse Compact) based upon your recommendation, and it is just wonderful! I really like it, and it has sped up my CAD work immensely! I was able to use it awkwardly after 1 day, and it took about 3 days before I was completely comfortable with it, and now I am working much faster with it. Please keep up the good work! (ps. I'm moving to Fusion 360 from Alibre, so your insights are very much appreciated!)
Thank you Lars, always great videos. Just picked up a spacemouse wireless for Fusion…….a total game changer for modeling.
I've been using one for 10 years now. I couldn't live without it. The company I work for uses NX and it works flawlessly. But I do not use any of the buttons, I still use my keyboard. I also just use the scroll wheel on my regular mouse for zooming in and out.
Anyway, that's just my two cents worth.
Ohh so that's how you move so smooth in these tutorials. That's a cool gadget. Seems useful, and a nice way to increase ergonomics / save your right hand wrist.
I have had the spacemouse wireless for years. It is excellent.
That is awesome to hear CncObsession .Thank you for watching the videos
Lars, I've owned and used my 3D Connexion Cad Mouse and SpacePilot Pro for about 3 yrs. I do have some of the buttons programmed for some functions, easier than looking up keyboard commands. I love them! They are great for CAD/CAM and I also use them for "normal" functions. I thank you for all of your valuable info, and please keep up the excellent work.
Thank you john swilley Really appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Have an awesome day!
I was able to get an enterprise 2 kit through work. So it comes with the cadmouse pro and mouse pad and honestly I love every single piece. It is an absolute game changer. Going back to a 2 button mouse is terrible. navigating is so much easier. My right wrist feels so much better because i'm able to work with both hands now. It looks expensive until you use it and realize it's an absolute must have.
Thanks for the shout out at the end there - very well done video too, nice work!
Thank you TFI - CAD & Technology For Industry
Hehe, love your intro ;)
I've had and used several of these since the early 2000s. Everything you said about these is true.
Sometimes I've had to do modeling on-site somewhere and forgot my mobile wireless space mouse and regretted every minute of it.
Contrary to your use of the larger one, I love setting up and using the buttons for quick access to my common commands. Takes only a couple hours for the button locations to become second nature for me... I just have to refrain from changing the button short cuts or I'm messed up for the next few hours as my brain struggles with the switch!🙄
Hi Phil Thalmann Thank you for watching!
And for the great comment! love to hear from someone who has been using one for awhile!
I got one of these 3D mice the wireless version 6-8 months ago I use it in 3dsMAX & I feel like I can't live without anymore it's even fun to use, plus the quality of the product is on the next level! I love 3D Connexion, thanks man that was a great video!
That is awesome to hear freaky freaky .Thank you for watching the videos
Thanks Lars. I might buy the cheapest one for my hobby projects. It seems pretty nice to navigate with.
Hi Claes Gill Thank you for watching!
Looking at the comments, it seems like people find them cheap on Ebay
I used one of the original SpaceBalls in the 90's on our SGI's with Ideas, Catia, ProEngineer, etc at GT and it was amazing. I bought one of these new ones and absolutely love it. Like others have said, watch for used ones and as Lars said, they are really well built and last. Unfortunately one program I've found that doesn't work is Vcarve Pro and they've said they won't support it.
Hi Patrick Lesher Thank you for watching! ANd for the great comment!
I bought an older used Spacepilot pretty cheap on ebay for use at home and then one of the guys in the computing department at work gave me one. Apparently it had been ordered, but never used and was about to be thrown out. So I then had the same setup at home and at work.
You often see batches of older models being sold cheap.
I really miss having one when I have to show someone how to do something in fusion on their computer and I hate the limited realestate of a laptop. Then again, when I'm at work I miss my 43" 4K Monitor!
I too bought a recent edition Space Navigator on Ebay. Still was quite expensive, and I feel that I might have been a bit more patient. But going mad trying to get some coherent and fluid "camera" moves. Still awaiting its arrival. Now I have to find the best version of a companion mouse....it will have to be a steal :-)
Paul, sounds like you have a pretty nice setup with 4K monitors :-)
Chris, yes patience....isn't that the worst :-)
Brilliant - thanks! I'm struggling with Carpal tunnel syndrome when using a mouse, do you think this will help?
I think it will. A lot less clicking
Just talked my boss into getting one of the newer SpaceMouse Pros. Still having a bit of a learning curve, but it does make part and assembly navigation a breeze.
That is awesome to hear Jack Bryan .Thank you for watching the videos
Thx for your helpful tutorials and tips
Just started with Fusion 360 few day ago and just for hobby use to get the full workfow for my 3D printer a month ago.
But even the small time I'm in this new hobby I love playing around with Fusion that much I just ordered one.
That is awesome to hear Martin Loeffler .Thank you for watching the videos!! Happy to hear you have fun :-)
Just to echo other comments, the rubber coating degrades over time. I also had to remove the cap (tricky operation), clean it off, then use Plasticoat Rubber to reapply the comfort finish.
Generally I tend to use the mouse and keyboard.
Hi Richard Hawley Thank you for watching!
THat is interesting, Thank you for sharing this! Personally, I have never seen that happening
Just got the SpacePilot yesterday. Used but fully functional. Yes, parts are still flying off the screen :)
Lol, you will get it 👍😊
@@cadcamstuff it actually took me less than 2 days. Really easy to get used to it
I got the $109 version of the Space Navigator on Amazon back in November of 2017 and I love it. I don't think I could go back and use Fusion 360 without it. The first thing I do when I load Fusion 360 up and then my model is grab the Space Navigator and start moving around the model just because it look so cool on the screen. I wish it worked in some of my games I play. :)
Hi rwfracing Thank you for watching! And for a great comment
Hi Lars any chance you can do a vid on editing previously made models as I seem to find after they have been created I can't edit them ! Maybe there's a setting or constraint I'm missing. Great vids as always
Hi Berkeley Jones Thank you for watching!
Do they have the history tree at the bottom? If not, check this out:
th-cam.com/video/2OZ7AuMXDJ0/w-d-xo.html
Best,
Lars
Thank you Lars, I have been wandering what kit are you at?
Now I know.
Hi Motasem Albanna Thank you for watching!
Damn Lars! Now you have pushed me over the edge to buying one. My work flow shall be OVER 9000!! I can't wait to share with my audience :-)
That is awesome to hear Paul Karyakos .Thank you for watching the videos
great short video, really enjoy the tips and tricks to make cad/cam easier, Thank You
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
Dear Lars Since each day I follow your tutorials and I'm starting to love Fusion and try to learn a bit everyday Still I'm a hobbyist and I can not afford to buy even the $100 one, that is why I went online and got a $50 one old model out of Ebay. That seems to still work under windows 10, If over time still works and improves my Fusion360 experience then I will consider buying the $100 one if is worth it. Thanks for the tip!
Hi Belen Hedderich Thank you for watching!
Love that you found a cheaper solution. I think you are perfectly fine with the used model. Great job
Thanks for the recommendation on 3DConnexion. I got the wireless space mouse/cad mouse combo. You are right that it will take a bit to get used to it, but I got it this afternoon and I'm already in love with it.
That is awesome to hear Omnipotent ! .Thank you for watching the videos
Yes great video! I got one of the older (Space Explorer) 3dConnexion mouses and it works but I'd like to manipulate .ISDZ (Augmented Reality) files with it on my Macintosh computer, but I haven't figured out how to do that. Any suggestions?
I just bought the spacemouse compact and it's very cool. So much easier move around. Worth every penny.
Funny that I was just wondering what my coworker in our toolroom was using when looking at his models and sure enough he's got one of these to look at the die models for the parts we make. Good chance that I stumbled across this looking for a Fusion 360 tutorial.
Wow great timing!
I literally just got a second hand (but new unused!) SpaceNavigator (I paid £60 / $80) - the smaller one without the wrist rest and extra buttons in this video.
Its amazing, takes a bit of learning though. I am starting to get it without thinking now after a few hours of use.
Makes navigating so smooth and easy, like having the model in your hand!
I suggest slowing down the speed at first (try about 1/4 the scale then slowly up it as you get used to it).
Its really customizable, can change the axis, the buttons, even setup your own macros and "wheels" in the button menus etc. But as Lars mention, I find I prefer to use keyboard buttons for things like "line" "circle" etc.
And yes the quality is super awesome, soooo smooth!
Hi Gavin Boulton Thank you for watching! Thank you for a great comment!
BEst,
Lars
But can you use it in the midst of an operation? That would be the biggest game changer for me. Often there are multiple things that need to be selected where rotating the model would help.
Is that a Haas simulator on the shelf over your left shoulder?
Yes, he mentioned it another video 😀
I have used the Space Navigator for many, many years and it works really well. The only complaint I have is that the rubberized coating on the knob breaks down after a few years and becomes really icky. I had to use alcohol and lots of elbow grease to rub all the coating off. Underneath the coating is a shiny, smooth plastic surface.
Hi Richard D Thank you for watching!
That is interesting, I have never seen that, but great advice! Thank you for sharing!!
Thanks for this video. I was looking into it but for the moment I managed to convert a old Logitech game controller to achieve somewhat the same thing...since it's only a hobby for me and I only spend 3 to 4 hours a week in Fusion. Don't see myself spend that kind of money right now,,,maybe eventually but not yet.
Hi Jocelyn Menard Thank you for watching!
I totally understand! :-)
Best,
Lars
another great video - thank you!!
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!!!!!
Great review but no one using one of these says anything about adapting to using a new device with your left hand. IF your right handed Ive always wondered how you adapt at using it with your awkward left hand?
Hi Bill Barscdhorf Thank you for watching!
I have never heard of anyone complaining about using them with your other hand.
Best,
Lars
This is on my list of things to buy for a couple of years now.
i absolutely hate to click and hold the mousewheel or klick on the "overview cube" every time.
Tell connexion to buy you a beer. i just ordered the standard USB version.
Do not wait a min longer Markus.. It is simply amazing.
Yep, bought one. i use a trackman on my CAD PC. better than a mouse but still i think the spacemouse is a worthy upgrade.
Hi Markus_B Thank you for watching!
Love to hear what you think after you have had it for a few weeks!
Best,
Lars
Hey Lars, just wondering do you have some suggestions/ video content for how to setup the two radial menus available? I understand how the app works to change the buttons just battling to know which shortcuts should go where. Cheers!
It's very subjective. You just store the function you are using the most.
I felt so bad for you when I saw your keyboard! Expensive 3D Connexion controller and a $20 keyboard. :)
Where can I send a KB Lars!?
Lol, I bought that keyboard at Walmart 10 years ago😁 Maybe I should upgrade😏
I'm brand new to fusion3d (just finished the junction box tutorial) and I was wondering how you manipulated the drawings so smoothly. that is the most frustrating part of learning CAD is the time I waste trying to get the drawing in the orientation I need. So..while my wife is asleep I ordered a space mouse. :)
My man, this is why you are a permalink on my Facebook group😎😊
Thank you forward 3d printing :-)
Thank god for google. I was wondering what mouse you used. Any updates? Do you use anything different? I love this channel. I do this for fun and I may make a career change. I love 3d printing, cnc and designing things with autodesk. I wish I had these tools when I was 12.
Lars, thanks for the link, I was wondering if you could help me out with another thing, I saw the model of the car you have on display, and I've always wanted to do something like that but since there are no exact measurements or a blueprint for that matter, how do you go about it, how do you start your process, from the direction wheel to the bodywork. Thanks for your time!
Hi Ed Man Thank you for watching!
Most people start with a picture, just like in this video:
th-cam.com/video/AtE7KvKrjXw/w-d-xo.html
You would use the sculpt workspace
I usually do CAD on my trackpad because I design on my laptop and usually it comes up pretty unprepared. Everything more that I need to carry seems excessively bulky, and with a hotley for the lacking middle mouse button it is actually fine
Good to finally see it :)
Hi NehuyStealer Thank you for watching!
Yes, took me forever to get this video done :-)
Hi Lars. I noticed that you use a Mac as well. What hardware specifications would you recommend for Fusion 360?
I have to admit that I am not a computer expert. I’ll recommend you look at this knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html
Bold intro! Niceeee. :D I was suspectin you were using it. (I have the cheaper version.)
Thank you Sorin Negulescu
It's a great device, may take some time to get it integrated into one's workflow; but luckily it is not a mouse replacement. Its great during a review / spot check period for sure as you would be using a 2d mouse and likely meta keys on keyboard or house and with the 3d mouse its a smooth joystick / helicopter like exportation of the design.
Stick with the simple one. My advice after 10 years. I had Pilot and Pilot pro, for 9 years. 90% of your time will be on rotation, zoom, pan and couple commands. I use eight shortcuts on the two configurable buttons. The comfort is great, your mind will sink in the project in seconds ! Once again stay on the simplest, 60£ !
My SpaceMouse, the rubber on the bottom hardened up, so it wouldn't stay still and the rubber on the knob was pealing off. I need to buy a pro one day.
Part of the problem I had was that I only had one, so going from work, to working at home was a pain to adjust back and forth.
Hi Mark G Thank you for watching!
You sound like a hardcore user :-) You need two
Best,
Lars
I was ready to place an order for the wireless combo until I noticed the CAD Mouse supports BlueTooth but the SpaceMouse requires their USB dongle. I'm on a MacBook Pro with USB C, so that means an additional adapter, too.
What are you guys in my situation doing that truly want wireless without additional cables and dongles?
Thank in advance!
Hi scottosds Thank you for watching!
YEs, as you can see in th4 video, I do have an extra dongle so I can run the usb dongle on my mac. I'm not a big fan of that, but that is Apple's fault in my opinion
I agree that the decision by Apple to ONLY include USB-C on their "Pro" line doesn't seem right.
However, since every notebook I've had over the last 5-7 years has included built-in Bluetooth, I think a worse decision was 3DConnexion not to support such a standard, especially when it applies to a portable solution.
I will probably still buy their stuff because of your recommendation, but am really disappointed in having to use a wireless dongle when wireless technology is already present.
Thanks for the videos and the recommendation.
I have recently started using Fusion 360 and Inventor for paying jobs. I have also been fighting against buying the Enterprise version because of the cost - but I am a gadget-freak and love the cool stuff! I am pretty certain I would not use the buttons either for anything other than non-CAD features (if that is possible). 3DConnexion probably will not like this comment, but thank you for saving me from myself - I have to pay for this with my own money.
Funny vid - loved the screen cavorting in the background, but the music - good, but waaay too loud. :D
Thank you for watching 👍😊 and for the great comment. I’ll need to pay better attention to the volume in the future
Correct me if I understood well, both 3D navigator control cap are same viz a viz how they navigate & only difference between the two is number of programmable buttons
Hi Sunil Saxena Thank you for watching!
That is my believe, but I have never taken one a part.
BEst,
Lars
Possible for you to do a Surface Pro with the stylus, with zoom, pan and rotate with fingers. Also other alternative like the Acer swift
I am using gamepad.its price is less the 10 $. Work perfectly with fusion360.
How do you map your keys? Is it the kind with two analog sticks?
Can you program S as one of the buttons??? S and Enter are pretty much the only two buttons I press on the keyboard.
Marshall Wollum
You can. At 4:16, when the user interface for programming the buttons is shown, you can see that "keyboard" is one of the options.
The wired Space Mouse Pro has shift, alt, ctrl, and esc and I use those constantly.
Thanks Hirudin :)
LOL that intro 😂😂😂
That is about as creative as I get :-) Thank you for watching!
Hey Lars, I want to thank you for your great videos. They're VERY helpful.
I have a 3Dconnexion Enterprise that I use with Modo, Rhino, SketchUp, 3DCoat, etc. but in Fusion 360 I can't find a way to constrain the y axis so that it remains vertical when I rotate (AKA Lock Horizon)
I have Constrained Orbit checked so that SHIFT+MiddleMouse will orbit with the horizon locked but as soon as I navigate with the 3Dconnexion mouse the horizon is no longer locked and the model is allowed to roll. I didn't find anything in preferences that has the desired effect. What am I missing?
Thanks
Hi Gregg Johnson Thank you for watching!
I am on the road right now and did not bring any devices. I would recommend that you post on the forum about this.
BEst,
Lars
Will these work in zbrush? ????
now
I have no idea
Super god video Lars. Det var ikke svært at finde ud af du er dansk. Flag i bagunden og den samme tåbelige danske accent som jeg selv har.
Super good video Lars. It wasn't hard to find out you're Danish. Flags in the back and the same silly Danish accent as I have myself.
can this be used in Google Earth Studio?
I've got a Space Pilot Pro (older model than yours) and I'm finding it a little difficult to stay orientated. Is there a way to set the SPP in constrained orbit?
Hi Shaun Bell Thank you for watching!
I'm pretty sure that if you right-click you can set the orbit origin. But, I think most of it comes with some practice
@@cadcamstuff I'm finding practice is helping a lot. Just takes time for my brain to adjust. Great videos!
Don't let Saunders see this or he will blow a gasket! I've got 3 of the basic type (inc one of the portable version) and wouldn't be without them. They also work with Microsoft Office apps, 3D Acrobat docs etc.
Hi Murray Edington Thank you for watching!
I could never imagine John losing his temper :-) He is one of the nicest people I have ever met.
Heheh yes, one of my longest subscriptions! But he seems to have set his mind against 3D mice. We're all human!
BTW, what is the purpose of the controller on the wall behind you? Is it for training? Seems to be running g code much of the time.
yes ok , but what about is comment about the mouse at one point is he right. please notice I'm evaluating the need for that thing.
And what is the needfor the new standard mouse with the 3d mouse , is it a must or just for... is it more precise compare to a standard one , was it worth the price?
that are the question i need to answer ,
thanks !
Hi Lars, one question to the Spacemouse Pro wireless.
I've changed the Z axis to be up in default modeling orientation. Unfortunately each time I use the "Isometric View 1" it changes the view proper fitted but with Y axis up (as if I didn't changed the setting) and not as if I use the "home" button in view cube.
Do you have any idea how to modify the "Isometric View 1" so it show in proper orientation with Z up?
Thanks,
I do not. Sounds like it could be a driver problem. Might not be a bad thing to post about it here forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-support/bd-p/962
Sorry I’m not to more help
@@cadcamstuff THX.
BTW love your videos.
did you experience camera movement problems? In such way that when you have some kind of prolonged model (lets say 300x10x10 mm) you usually get stuck with camera movement; sometimes it won't move in one of the axis (fusion makes sensitivity on that axes very low) or something like that; you get into situation where you can't Comfortably rotate/pan/zoom with SpaceNavigator;
Hi Evgeny Garanin Thank you for watching!
I know that have been some driver issues....I think I see it more on Mac;s than on Windows machines.....Not 100 percent sure thought.
Best,
Lars
@@cadcamstuff yep definetely I had more discomfort on my Macbook than on Windows desktop PC! Thanks for sharing experience :) I use your videos as first place to go when I need to learn new technique.
@@passenger000 You have locked a certain rotation.
Problem is I don't have space for both mouse and 3d mouse. I would like to try one some day.
Why don't you contact 3Dconnexion and ask for the test unit? www.3dconnexion.eu/contact.html
Hej Lars.
Jeg tænker på at købe sådan en SpaceMouse Wireless til brug i Unity, men kan ikke rigtig finde info derude om der overhovedet er support for sådan et device i Unity. Er det evt. noget du har erfaring med?
Unity er et gratis værktøj til at udvikle spil i 3D og 2D.
Check the list here
www.3dconnexion.com/supported-software/software0.html
Thanks Lars
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
Does anybody have the same issue as I do? The side rubber pieces (between the 'metal' and the buttons) of my 3DConnexion CadMouse Wireless seems to be stretching with use and is now too big for the gap it is meant to be filling - and this after only using the 3DConnexion equipment for 5 months. This results in a very uncomfortable grip and that has been quite an embarrassment in the office after spending $160 on a mouse that now looks like a piece of broken equipment.
It's known issue covered by the warranty. You will need to contact the producer. You devices will be replaced.
miecz23 hahahaha no they won’t.
@@Mandrew56 did you tried?
Huge favor please. Can you let me know if this works for Google Earth on widows or even mac
Thank you so much. I subbed and liked video ahead of time
I can't imagine working in Google Earth without it. Check some other videos available on TH-cam.
Love mine. But after a few days of not using it does take 5 minutes or so to retrain my brain.
hi good video which support for me to 3d space mouse which i have ordered. can you please share your system information of desktop. which i have my i5 5th gen hp laptop with 8 gb and 500gb hardrive & amd 2 gb it lag on working with heavy assembly file
You need more RAM and a better GPU. Try upgrading to at least 16GB of memory and try to upgrade your graphics too.
Is it an underground bunker?
lol, no, but that would almost be cool :-)
Unreal Engine?
The cost of theses has gone through the roof
The problem is that Fusion 360 won't let you rotate along the y axis. Is there no way to change this?
I purchased a space mouse. When it works its great BUT, the mouse driver stops working and the unit has to be unplugged and reconnected often! I contacted 3dconnexion and was given a work-around (basically unplug and reconnect) REALLY a work-around how about a fix!
You can also do a control alt delete and stop the 3dconnexion service, then restart the exe, I keep meaning to write a reboot driver script, I'll put a comment up here if I get around to it.
Ok, providing you have installed the software in the same folder as me(if not change to your path), try this:
Create an empty text file on the desktop, open in notepad, copy/paste
taskkill /f /IM 3DxService.exe
start C:\Program" "Files\3Dconnexion\3DxWare\3DxWinCore64\3DxService.exe /b
exit
save, exit, rename the file to RestartSpaceMouse.bat
Afterwards you can create a shortcut and add it to your quick launch if you wish.
Hi Bryan Rude Thank you for watching!
Wow, Morten, Totally awesome!! Thank you
I love my SpaceNavigator and have been using many years. But MacOS Catalina as killed it. 3DConnexion had like half a year to work on their drivers but dragged their feet on it. Now Catalina is out and the device is not ready. If there is an alternative, I would buy it and abandon 3DConnexion.
I work with this Thing for 10 years, its worth every cent, but the Quality is BS. After a few months all the rubber gets off and gets a disgusting look and feel. And we have a lot of these mice in our company, its the same thing with all. But theres no alternative... so what?! I will stick to it because i cant live without it.
The rubber is covered with the warranty. I got my device replaced.
I would be crippled without my Spacemouse!
Not sure how people get work done in 3D Space without a 6DoF Controller like that. I for one have a 3DConnexion SpacePilot Pro which is like the predecessor to the SpaceMouse Enterprise they now sell as their top-end flagship model. Never regretted that purchase and I'm not even working in the field that makes use of that - Just a hobbyist.
Hi Durahl Thank you for watching! And the great comment :-)
Thanks for the useful info that the older one is as useful as the fancy expensive new one. It was worth bearing the somewhat overacted presentation :)
Anyone suggest a fair companion mouse? Dizzying array out there'
Just bought a used Space Navigator so I am tapped out. Dying for it to arrive.
I have been using a 15yr old Apple Mouse with micro trackball :P
Yes I do like to get some mileage out of my gear.
Hi Chris Leech Thank you for watching!
3D Connexion does have a wired and wireless mouse. I like them, but I don't think they are anything different than a Logitech mouse for example
Hi Lars great video :) Just wanted to mention that as well as the fact it is a top end 3 buttons mouse, built specifically for CAD, the 3Dconnexion CadMouse is different mainly because of our software! The mouse is integrated into most 3dcad software along with the SpaceMouse through the API, so that buttons and operations can be mapped for different functions for all your different programs, and also even specific areas of each app. You can even program it to run common commands in a sequence with a single click, or open a radial menu :)
Lars.. I have used the 3DConnexion Space Mouse Wireless for a long time now. It is probably the best peripheral I have ever bought. Its too bad that none of the 3D printer slicer software applications support it. If you want to take wrist papering to the next level, ditch the mouse and get a trackball for your mouse hand. I use the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman. Best trackball ever. Its too bad they stopped making it. They do have two other ones though. Get a trackball you will love it.
www.pricesmile.com/logitech-cordless-optical-trackman-t-rb22-new-usb-ps-2/
Hi Sean O'Brien Thank you for watching! And the great comment! I will have to look into one of those
For those in Australia.....Amazon will actually ship it here.......$AUD199.91 for the W/L spacemouse and carry case.
Hi SimopsAus Thank you for watching! Awesome to hear!
There not cheap but looks like it would be a good investment ..its going to have to be a Ebay job ...keep the video come evry day with you is a school day:-)
Thank you 👍
Lars, I would love to learn by watching your video. But, all of the details in your videos are so blurry that I cannot follow what you are doing. How do I fix this problem (I assume that you do your videos in high resolution). Thanks. PS Many people have recommended your videos. PPS My zoom on the wheel only zooms in and does not zoom out - any suggestions.