As i'd forgotten to mention it in the video, after attaching to the catapult shuttle, and the hold back bar has been installed (not shown in dcs) You raise the Launch bar switch, this does not actually raise the launch bar, it's held down. Pilots do this so they dont have to press the switch later after taking off, reducing workload. This way the bar automatically returns to the up position as it leaves the catapult, ready for the gear to be raised.
I remember reading in the NATOPS that the pilots raise the launch bar switch in high position because if they left it in the low position it can cause a hydraulic failure (sure for the F/A/18E not for the C i'll check it)
how do you operate the Landing Officer camera? I know you press Alt F9 to go to it but then I seem to have no control and it's just looking up at the sky
The camera does look at the sky, its static, zoom it out with R ctrl / or * to see the deck. Trackir tracks and allows free look, which would be unrealistic which is why i'd recommend pausing it whilst using the view.
@@RedKiteRender legacy Hornets had the issue about 6 or 7 years ago. Lowering the launch bar would blow the slipper seal. They raise it so at the end of the car stroke it pops up. Flaps go to half for launch and recovery. I've never seen them use full flaps for anything except shutdown. 16 degrees trim on deck, 12 on shore.
Just stumbled on this video, don't know much about your community. I used to fly S-3 Vikings (the unfortunate target of the Hornet collision in this video). It's great to see the attention to detail here and the NATOPS comment references are blowing my mind a little - you just don't run into that outside of Naval Aviation circles. Nice job discussing some of the do's and don'ts flying around the boat, they are for the most part right on target. There seems to be a general theme of favoring real-world complexity over "dumbing things down" for the masses, which is refreshing. To really ratchet up the realism, this would also have the affects of sea state (and the fresnel landing system's difficulty keeping up with stabilization rate corrections in certain conditions), and the Rooster Tail / Burble area of changing air behind the ship. The burble severity changes all the time, but tends to be more pronounced when the ship is having to "make its own wind" on calm days. The experienced pilots know that when they are overhead in a Case I recovery and see a big wake behind the ship, that there will probably be a more pronounced burble. These are some of the reasons why landing aboard in real life is way, way more challenging than in a simulator. We would practice simulator landings before deploying, but mostly to work on our night landing instrument scan and practice carrier-based procedures - all the things you need to get set up to land. The simulator landing itself was a joke - way too complex to simulate, and we just gamed the system since that part was so unrealistic. The actual ball-flying to land part we practice in actual aircraft on a regular runway with a meatball, small lit carrier box, and LSOs. But we had old sims with outdated technology . . . Can this simulator also replicate night landings, complete with the Bullseye / Needles precision approach systems? Combine that with gnarly weather (visibility down to minimum), pitching deck, and aircraft emergencies (engine failure, stuck flaps, etc), and you'll have a pretty good representation of carrier ops at their best. There's a reason why the USA is the only country that conducts carrier flight ops under those conditions - because we decided to invest in that level of training and accept the risks that come with it - it's really, really difficult! There were some nights where I honestly could not believe we were walking to our jets and had not been canceled. I think all of us flying on those kind of nights would be looking at the tower and waiting to get canceled thinking "Ok, we're ACTUALLY walking to the planes. Ok, we're starting up now, I"m actually spinning engines. Wow, you are actually taking the chocks and chains off, now we're taxiing, I can't believe it. So you're putting me in front of the cat, wow, unfolding wings, I think we are really going. Now I'm in tension, REALLY not like what I'm seeing at the end of that deck, can't believe we're doing this and HERE WE GO". And that's the easy part - you're not looking forward to what's coming 1.5 hours later. Still makes me shiver a little. I'll check out some of the other videos, especially the Case 1 recovery tutorial. I'm impressed with what I've seen so far, and obviously a biased, huge fan of carrier aviation. I constantly shake my head that we manage to pull this off so regularly, and it was a truly amazing thing to be part of. Fly safe! T-Pot
Thanks! Yes, DCS (digital combat simulator) does in fact simulate pitching decks Case 1,2 and 3 landings with a weather, sea state, fog and time of day, including the carrier ils and tacan systems. Burble is not simulated yet to the best of my knowledge. The developers are creating a high fidelity and close as possible to reality sim covering all aspects of the aircraft that's declassified. This includes flight time in their simulation with real hornet pilots, so far it seems they've done an excellent job re-creating the hornet. There are some quirks of the simulation, but they're actively being worked on. It's pretty safe to say DCS is the most realistic flight simulation of combat aircraft available to the public. Damage simulation and failures are a part of dcs, though they're more often inflicted by battle damage, the sim does feature the ability to add system failures at random or specific ones for practice. Almost everyone involved in DCS is very much into re-creating real world procedures right down to even the comms. You'l even find some virtual squadrons dedicated to just that. It's a community of flight fans, people who love aviation and often missed the chance to do it in reality. Learning the DCS Hornet and doing case 1 recoveries myself it's astounding how precise and refined this all is, getting aircraft down so quickly, reliably and safely even in insane conditions. I've done a few case 3s with a VR headset and felt vertigo, disorientation, forced myself to rely on instruments and the meatball and still found it stressful. Even caught myself adding power for fear of hitting the deck too soon (even though i was on the ball, my eyes were misleading me) And I'm just sat in a comfy chair at home! Like you've said it's insanity that modern carrier operations run so smoothly, I've got serious respect for the skill and everyone involved keeping the whole show on the road, even more so after i'd gotten involved with this simulation! Take care!
What sort of "realism" do you wanna discuss. I don't care what your burble navy experiences are. Landing an F-4J on a carrier, and whatever it is that you fly, or have flown, are as different as night and day. The F-4 isn't as nearly as generous as far as last second roll and yaw adjustments as the F/A-18, not to mention if you come in heavy with fuel, which I strongly suggest you don't in the U.S.S. America, F-4J, which I have. Furthermore, ace, I don't care what you flew in the navy or what adjustments you have to account for. I trust me to land the beautiful classic Corsair on a carrier than you, or anyone you know. That's yet another experience COMPLETLY DIFFERENT than any other carrier approach and landing. I could certainly include ALL tail draggers in that scenario. Again, I would trust me to do it than any navy piolt you know, ace. How much do you wanna bet?
@@stratoleft I bet you would crash into the back of the ship on your first approach. If you are that big of an asshole, you will never be let in a squadron, never less fly a plane. If you think a simulator landing is anything close to the real thing you are dead wrong.
I have to say F/A-18 is a great step up from the Su33 in FC2 after trying it out a few times. The avionics make the landing much, much, much easier to control and safer, they did a great job simulating that. Now I'm surprised the simple radio guidance landing control of Su33 ever works. Honestly the very hard Su33 carrier landing qualifier still gives me chills.
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@@eriktruchinskas3747 Double, the F14 was a big plane! I worked with both, and can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone try. It was a sad day when VFA 211 got switched over to Super Hornets.
Jet Mech 319th BW GF AFB 65-69. Much appreciated. Loved being in that close to them on full-scale ORIT launches, or DEFCON launch. Not so fun in the middle of blizzards, but we got the job done, even if it meant a last minute engine swap with frozen (or burned from propane heaters) hands. I was also specialist on the AGM 28 Hound Dog missiles carried underwing, same engine as SR-71, more or less. A refueling mistake took out the fuel truck, the missile and the test cell, one day, with three separate explosions. That was a field and track event no one will forget.
The best tutorials ever.You read my mind.Yesterday I couldnt find how to get on catapult,and how to take off from carrier.And voalaaaaaa today is flashing on my PC your tutorial.Unbelieveble.Thank you man.
as cool as it sounds it ain't that easy for example the catapult must be turned on from inside the carrier and the shooter is the one who launches the aircraft and if you get dizzy its game over
Your first pass was confusing me because it was way off but I now see you were highlighting a wrong approach. Great detail overall and nice job highlighting the wrong ways. I hope you get a chance to check out my series to refine your skills.
Thanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback, and the series you're producing. It's brought a lot of insight and interesting information! Look forward to your future videos. You can be sure carrier landings will be an ongoing subject of practice for me, more so than combat at the moment!
Great video RedKite. Excellent instruction. Just one thing that I noticed. I do not get Reheat Thrust when on the carrier by just advancing my throttles to max. I have to use the keyboard commands for Finger Lift. On the runway, this is not required and I believe on the current release the sim does not model the 32 lb force that in real life the pilot can exert without using the Finger Lifts to get into reheat. Thanks for this and all your efforts on these videos.
Yes, i've heard it's incorrect behavior too which is why i didnt' bring it up in the video. Hopefully we'l see a change soon, though i imagine it's a low priority fix.
The main reason the runway is angled across the deck is to make sure than if you overshoot and roll off, you wont end up directly ahead of the carrier and get run over.
Great video! A couple of things I noticed that got me curious, was that #1 you didn't change the hook mode from Field to Carrier, and #2 something that I'm struggling with but have just learned to TCN with the Stennis, is the correct altitude to commence a descent from and distance from the boat (ie. 2nm etc.). Because it seems possible to drop out of the sky on-speed and be way off a sensible glideslope.
Nice video :) I visited the USS Midway museum whilst in the US and they have former USN pilots explaining some of this on the flight deck. I highly recommend a visit if you're in San Diego.
Keep these kind of videos coming! The main reason I find your videos most valuable is the length, combined with a lot of content. But still not "one minute" rush. P. S. Love the way every veteran plays the noob like they didn't do bazillion traps already in the Su-33. Without flight path marker ;)
One night in 1996 I saw from 'Vultures Row' an F-18 clip the nose of an E2-C. I have also see an un-commanded roll on an F-14. Both pilots made it out.
It’s okay RedKite, that kid would never survive the rigors of being a Roof Rat. People like her say the “thought” about joining the Military. - AC1(AW/SW), USN, 1994-2010.
I already struggle landing a regular WW2 plane on a regular runway, I don't know how I expect to land an F-18 on a carrier, but god damn I'm gonna try it anyway.
Please do a video on F-18C Radio usage and communications how to. I am a bit confused on how to use radios in F-18C properly. Thank you very much, Rhino-22.
it's the carrier landing in top gun for the NES all over again. In a real landing they land at full afterburner in case they miss all four cables they can peel off and try again.
This whole time I've been practicing without using trim because it felt odd for some reason. Holy fuck was I wrong, lol. The difficulty of doing this without trim is some next level shit.
Awsome job !.... What an analysis!... Fantastic!... Thank you so much, for taking the time to show us how to land a carrier !... :-) From Brussels, with Love...
Thanks a lot RedKite. This is a great video. I really appreciate very much the detailed informations you're giving to us. We have the "How to " and the "Why". You should join Matt Wagner team from DCS for developping training modules !! Thank you for the time you're putting in assembling so good vids !! Waiting for your next video. And again, many thanks !!!
@redkite the launch bar is what pulls the aircraft to launch. You do not want to raise it before launching. I understand that this has no effect in game, but for realism sake, don't raise it. In real life, it wouldn't even be possible as the launch bar would be locked into the shuttle. It automatically raises and moves the switch position when you raise your gear.
It's part of the real take off procedure. Once attached The launch bar will remain held down by the shuttle, along with the hold back bar installed behind the gear (not shown in dcs) they raise the switch before take off so it doesn't need to be pressed after take off. reducing pilot work load. Technically at the moment you don't even need to lower the launch bar. I'd rather teach people the correct method in case it changes in an update later.
11:20 till end clearly shows F14s on the deck. And since there is no way for them to get there without landing on the carrier it must mean that F14 module is getting close to release as well. 😁
Don't want to burst your bubble, but they're static ai models, there's an old low detail F-14a tomcat that's been in dcs for a long time. Don't get me wrong though i'm confident we'l get some news on the Tomcat in the near future now the hornet release has passed.
DCS has simualtion of wind and turbulence, though carriers sail into the wind deliberately during take off and landings. This means you'l never land on a carrier with a significant crosswind. Runways however are another matter :)
I think you should correct a little bit about throttle on launch you have to lift those finger slats to get full burner otherwise you cannot get full AB;)
You are correct, however from what I've heard from pilots the finger lifts are not required in real life to reach burner, it's either something odd with the way it's simulated or a 'bug' and i expect it to change.
From NATOPS manual........8.2.5 Before Catapult Hook-Up. Before taxi onto the catapult, complete the takeoff checklist, set the standby attitude reference indicator for use if the HUD fails during the launch. With flaps HALF or FULL, the takeoff trim button should be pressed until the TRIM advisory appears and then the horizontal stabilator trim should be manually positioned for CG location, excess end airspeed and power setting for launch.
1CAG Here is a great resource if you are interested in operating the Hornet as professional aviators would. info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I thought AOA is the angle between your wings and the airflow not the angle between your wings and the direction of travel.
Land base aircraft also adhere to this technique, although they perform a flare before touchdown. its to insure you land with the correct configuration for you wheels / hook to avoid tail strikes. if you pitch the nose up and down you'l change altitude but also change the angle you're hitting the deck, in the case of the hornet that could mean the hook missing (nose down) or getting smashed off against the deck (nose high)
Im not sure of the ins and outs of the Hornet's Antiskid, but it affects the availability of NWS on other aircraft. You should see NWS on the hud, or NWS HI if it's enabled, are your rudder axis working?
Won't full flaps induce too much drag though? Would you not be fighting the drag as you come off the carrier, surely a point in a flight where you really don't want that! (I haven't tried the module yet so not speaking from any experience, just wondering).
The catapult should get you up to flying speed by the time you reach the end. You dont need to accelerate yourself like the Su-33 does to stay airborne.
Do you have any reference to the full-flaps? /thanx :) Coz A.E. W. is saying always half, look in comments : th-cam.com/video/o5WrDUabaaQ/w-d-xo.html&lc=z235zphriq3aibydbacdp432lsgzjjxewkk2dstgxgdw03c010c.1528595430150569
Keep an eye out for the 'Raven One' campaign (based on the book series) which will be providing some of that! Due out some time late this year. DCS at it's core is a simulator, but there are campaigns available which add in narrative and storytelling. Sadly cutscenes beyond what's doable inside the DCS mission itself are not (presently) possible.
I'l agree it's complicated, but much like say dark souls, where learning is a very large part of the gameplay, it's very satisfying when things start falling into place. There's a great sense of achievement and very rewarding combat / multiplayer action as you get better. Naturally i can understand it's a bit of a barrier and not everyone's got the time to learn, but it's honestly one of the most fulfilling games i play.
I can't move forward, the wheel chucks won't come off, how do we notify PC or what key feature do I need to enable ? Nevermind , use radio key " \ " , the backlash.
You've got to tell the ground crew to remove chocks (added since recording) if they're not responding try opening the canopy, or turning your radios on, (they can't hear you otherwise)
You're under-piloting your plane, you should gain confidence in your skill and not let the plane drive you. But you're not a painter either, which is good.
nice simulator but hopefully coming soon DCS have a few crew working on that carrier dek... like Jet mission in Battlefield 3... with full take off instruction by the crew...
There is a Carrier module for DCS in development which will feature heavily deck operations, atc comms and details around the boat. They're boasting it'l be the most realistic depiction of carrier operations ever seen in a sim, but we'l have to wait and see :)
Hello very nice vid, very good work thank you. Can you say me how to use the Plat cam please? Coz i can't move it or zoom in/out with mine like you :( thank you in advance.
Hum thank you for the zoom with RCtrl and / and * it's working (i have tryed only with * and / or Rshift and * or /) but my trackIR move don't work for moving the camera :(
As i'd forgotten to mention it in the video, after attaching to the catapult shuttle, and the hold back bar has been installed (not shown in dcs) You raise the Launch bar switch, this does not actually raise the launch bar, it's held down. Pilots do this so they dont have to press the switch later after taking off, reducing workload. This way the bar automatically returns to the up position as it leaves the catapult, ready for the gear to be raised.
I remember reading in the NATOPS that the pilots raise the launch bar switch in high position because if they left it in the low position it can cause a hydraulic failure (sure for the F/A/18E not for the C i'll check it)
I seem to recall the hornet having a load of gear related problems including lubrication issues if you do flared landings with it.
how do you operate the Landing Officer camera? I know you press Alt F9 to go to it but then I seem to have no control and it's just looking up at the sky
The camera does look at the sky, its static, zoom it out with R ctrl / or * to see the deck. Trackir tracks and allows free look, which would be unrealistic which is why i'd recommend pausing it whilst using the view.
@@RedKiteRender legacy Hornets had the issue about 6 or 7 years ago. Lowering the launch bar would blow the slipper seal. They raise it so at the end of the car stroke it pops up.
Flaps go to half for launch and recovery. I've never seen them use full flaps for anything except shutdown. 16 degrees trim on deck, 12 on shore.
Within 12 mins a certified Fighter Pilot, thx.
Vara Now go and call the ball captain 👨🏻✈️
Meaning while in Battlefield 3: "Press E to launch"
*uses HMD to control guns*
Just stumbled on this video, don't know much about your community. I used to fly S-3 Vikings (the unfortunate target of the Hornet collision in this video). It's great to see the attention to detail here and the NATOPS comment references are blowing my mind a little - you just don't run into that outside of Naval Aviation circles. Nice job discussing some of the do's and don'ts flying around the boat, they are for the most part right on target. There seems to be a general theme of favoring real-world complexity over "dumbing things down" for the masses, which is refreshing.
To really ratchet up the realism, this would also have the affects of sea state (and the fresnel landing system's difficulty keeping up with stabilization rate corrections in certain conditions), and the Rooster Tail / Burble area of changing air behind the ship. The burble severity changes all the time, but tends to be more pronounced when the ship is having to "make its own wind" on calm days. The experienced pilots know that when they are overhead in a Case I recovery and see a big wake behind the ship, that there will probably be a more pronounced burble. These are some of the reasons why landing aboard in real life is way, way more challenging than in a simulator. We would practice simulator landings before deploying, but mostly to work on our night landing instrument scan and practice carrier-based procedures - all the things you need to get set up to land. The simulator landing itself was a joke - way too complex to simulate, and we just gamed the system since that part was so unrealistic. The actual ball-flying to land part we practice in actual aircraft on a regular runway with a meatball, small lit carrier box, and LSOs. But we had old sims with outdated technology . . .
Can this simulator also replicate night landings, complete with the Bullseye / Needles precision approach systems? Combine that with gnarly weather (visibility down to minimum), pitching deck, and aircraft emergencies (engine failure, stuck flaps, etc), and you'll have a pretty good representation of carrier ops at their best. There's a reason why the USA is the only country that conducts carrier flight ops under those conditions - because we decided to invest in that level of training and accept the risks that come with it - it's really, really difficult! There were some nights where I honestly could not believe we were walking to our jets and had not been canceled. I think all of us flying on those kind of nights would be looking at the tower and waiting to get canceled thinking "Ok, we're ACTUALLY walking to the planes. Ok, we're starting up now, I"m actually spinning engines. Wow, you are actually taking the chocks and chains off, now we're taxiing, I can't believe it. So you're putting me in front of the cat, wow, unfolding wings, I think we are really going. Now I'm in tension, REALLY not like what I'm seeing at the end of that deck, can't believe we're doing this and HERE WE GO". And that's the easy part - you're not looking forward to what's coming 1.5 hours later. Still makes me shiver a little.
I'll check out some of the other videos, especially the Case 1 recovery tutorial. I'm impressed with what I've seen so far, and obviously a biased, huge fan of carrier aviation. I constantly shake my head that we manage to pull this off so regularly, and it was a truly amazing thing to be part of.
Fly safe!
T-Pot
Thanks! Yes, DCS (digital combat simulator) does in fact simulate pitching decks Case 1,2 and 3 landings with a weather, sea state, fog and time of day, including the carrier ils and tacan systems. Burble is not simulated yet to the best of my knowledge. The developers are creating a high fidelity and close as possible to reality sim covering all aspects of the aircraft that's declassified.
This includes flight time in their simulation with real hornet pilots, so far it seems they've done an excellent job re-creating the hornet. There are some quirks of the simulation, but they're actively being worked on. It's pretty safe to say DCS is the most realistic flight simulation of combat aircraft available to the public. Damage simulation and failures are a part of dcs, though they're more often inflicted by battle damage, the sim does feature the ability to add system failures at random or specific ones for practice.
Almost everyone involved in DCS is very much into re-creating real world procedures right down to even the comms. You'l even find some virtual squadrons dedicated to just that. It's a community of flight fans, people who love aviation and often missed the chance to do it in reality.
Learning the DCS Hornet and doing case 1 recoveries myself it's astounding how precise and refined this all is, getting aircraft down so quickly, reliably and safely even in insane conditions. I've done a few case 3s with a VR headset and felt vertigo, disorientation, forced myself to rely on instruments and the meatball and still found it stressful. Even caught myself adding power for fear of hitting the deck too soon (even though i was on the ball, my eyes were misleading me) And I'm just sat in a comfy chair at home!
Like you've said it's insanity that modern carrier operations run so smoothly, I've got serious respect for the skill and everyone involved keeping the whole show on the road, even more so after i'd gotten involved with this simulation!
Take care!
Thank you for your service and your feedback. There is a lot of pucker factor here, I can only imagine what the REAL thing must be like.
What sort of "realism" do you wanna discuss. I don't care what your burble navy experiences are. Landing an F-4J on a carrier, and whatever it is that you fly, or have flown, are as different as night and day. The F-4 isn't as nearly as generous as far as last second roll and yaw adjustments as the F/A-18, not to mention if you come in heavy with fuel, which I strongly suggest you don't in the U.S.S. America, F-4J, which I have. Furthermore, ace, I don't care what you flew in the navy or what adjustments you have to account for. I trust me to land the beautiful classic Corsair on a carrier than you, or anyone you know. That's yet another experience COMPLETLY DIFFERENT than any other carrier approach and landing. I could certainly include ALL tail draggers in that scenario. Again, I would trust me to do it than any navy piolt you know, ace. How much do you wanna bet?
@@stratoleft I bet you would crash into the back of the ship on your first approach. If you are that big of an asshole, you will never be let in a squadron, never less fly a plane. If you think a simulator landing is anything close to the real thing you are dead wrong.
@@stratoleft You are a total asshole, and obviously, you're not the pointiest arrow in the quiver.
7:06 completely pitch black outside, yet he's still using day option on the DDI's..... What a chad
I have to say F/A-18 is a great step up from the Su33 in FC2 after trying it out a few times. The avionics make the landing much, much, much easier to control and safer, they did a great job simulating that.
Now I'm surprised the simple radio guidance landing control of Su33 ever works.
Honestly the very hard Su33 carrier landing qualifier still gives me chills.
I don’t even play any flight sims but I thought this was very interesting!
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Why? You can do the same thing on FSX.
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F18's are so light, that we use to just push them back by hand. It would take around 8 of us on the flight deck to get them to move.
Haha! now i have images of 'cow tipping' a hornet in my head
I wonder how many it would take to do that with a f14
@@eriktruchinskas3747 Double, the F14 was a big plane! I worked with both, and can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone try. It was a sad day when VFA 211 got switched over to Super Hornets.
@@rigging1377
Wait until they switch to F-35... THAT will be sad
Jet Mech 319th BW GF AFB 65-69. Much appreciated. Loved being in that close to them on full-scale ORIT launches, or DEFCON launch. Not so fun in the middle of blizzards, but we got the job done, even if it meant a last minute engine swap with frozen (or burned from propane heaters) hands. I was also specialist on the AGM 28 Hound Dog missiles carried underwing, same engine as SR-71, more or less. A refueling mistake took out the fuel truck, the missile and the test cell, one day, with three separate explosions. That was a field and track event no one will forget.
This is probably the best instructional video for carrier landings that I've seen.
The best tutorials ever.You read my mind.Yesterday I couldnt find how to get on catapult,and how to take off from carrier.And voalaaaaaa today is flashing on my PC your tutorial.Unbelieveble.Thank you man.
RedKite produces the best tutorials in all of TH-cam regardless of the subject matter. They are everything a tutorial should be.
Brb gonna steal a F18 from a carrier
as cool as it sounds it ain't that easy for example the catapult must be turned on from inside the carrier and the shooter is the one who launches the aircraft and if you get dizzy its game over
@@suhandatanker this isn't even a whoosh. he got the joke he just explained why it would be difficult
@@james9242 jeez my comment is almost a year ago tbh i was dumb back then lmao
Excellent, my butt was eating the seat, just like it did years ago...FLYNAVY, BZ!
Thank you. Your detailed explaination incresed my trap rate significantly.
Awesome to hear!
Your first pass was confusing me because it was way off but I now see you were highlighting a wrong approach. Great detail overall and nice job highlighting the wrong ways.
I hope you get a chance to check out my series to refine your skills.
Thanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback, and the series you're producing. It's brought a lot of insight and interesting information! Look forward to your future videos. You can be sure carrier landings will be an ongoing subject of practice for me, more so than combat at the moment!
This reminds me of landing on the carrier in Top Gun for NES. Ahh memories!!
Great job, thanks for the mention!
No problem Jabbers :)
This is an excellent demonstration and explanation of HUD, pilot workload, & aircraft behavior. 👍🏾
Thank you!.. The amount of patience itself that's required is appreciable..
This is most realistic looking flight simulator video I've ever seen.
Feeling sick and still pumping out great content, thanks! Hope you're feeling better!
Thanks Kylania It's been a little rough but i've been feeling better of late.
RK, your videos are so great, you must be some kind of educator irl. Really appreciate the effort you put in.
Thanks Mike!
Simulators used to be so simple: Throttle to 30%, lower gear, drop hook, line up, catch wire, game over 😃
Great video RedKite. Excellent instruction.
Just one thing that I noticed.
I do not get Reheat Thrust when on the carrier by just advancing my throttles to max. I have to use the keyboard commands for Finger Lift. On the runway, this is not required and I believe on the current release the sim does not model the 32 lb force that in real life the pilot can exert without using the Finger Lifts to get into reheat.
Thanks for this and all your efforts on these videos.
Yes, i've heard it's incorrect behavior too which is why i didnt' bring it up in the video. Hopefully we'l see a change soon, though i imagine it's a low priority fix.
More please. You're easing my transition from F16's to Hornets. Top notch content.
AOA is actually the chord line of the wing and the relative wind, not the longitudinal axis.
The main reason the runway is angled across the deck is to make sure than if you overshoot and roll off, you wont end up directly ahead of the carrier and get run over.
Great video! A couple of things I noticed that got me curious, was that #1 you didn't change the hook mode from Field to Carrier, and #2 something that I'm struggling with but have just learned to TCN with the Stennis, is the correct altitude to commence a descent from and distance from the boat (ie. 2nm etc.). Because it seems possible to drop out of the sky on-speed and be way off a sensible glideslope.
Nice video :) I visited the USS Midway museum whilst in the US and they have former USN pilots explaining some of this on the flight deck. I highly recommend a visit if you're in San Diego.
I'd love to take a look round, perhaps one day i'l get the chance, it looks like an amazing museum ship.
Keep these kind of videos coming! The main reason I find your videos most valuable is the length, combined with a lot of content. But still not "one minute" rush.
P. S. Love the way every veteran plays the noob like they didn't do bazillion traps already in the Su-33. Without flight path marker ;)
You have to remember we're all noobs compared to the servicemen/women who've done it for real :)
James Rolfe's Worst nightmare from top gun landing part.
It actually gets really easy when you catch the drift, same thing with AAR. Of course night, bad weather and level of drunkiness complicates things.
One night in 1996 I saw from 'Vultures Row' an F-18 clip the nose of an E2-C. I have also see an un-commanded roll on an F-14. Both pilots made it out.
nobody cares
Don't be an ass
It’s okay RedKite, that kid would never survive the rigors of being a Roof Rat. People like her say the “thought” about joining the Military. - AC1(AW/SW), USN, 1994-2010.
Great Tutorial and easy to understand also for not native US-English speakers! Thanks!!
Best video I've seen yet, thank you!
excellent work as always
new record how fast i fall in sleep! dcs vids are the best!
Nice landing thats why when we are in sandiego california inside the base we practice touch n go landing just incase
I already struggle landing a regular WW2 plane on a regular runway, I don't know how I expect to land an F-18 on a carrier, but god damn I'm gonna try it anyway.
Please do a video on F-18C Radio usage and communications how to. I am a bit confused on how to use radios in F-18C properly. Thank you very much, Rhino-22.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'l look into it
This U key was the clue I was searching for, THANK YOU!
it's the carrier landing in top gun for the NES all over again. In a real landing they land at full afterburner in case they miss all four cables they can peel off and try again.
This whole time I've been practicing without using trim because it felt odd for some reason. Holy fuck was I wrong, lol. The difficulty of doing this without trim is some next level shit.
Trim is an often overlooked control it's so useful in many aspects of flying.
Awsome job !....
What an analysis!...
Fantastic!...
Thank you so much, for taking the time to show us how to land a carrier !...
:-)
From Brussels, with Love...
Thank you, this noob appreciates the additional info very, very much.
Thanks a lot RedKite. This is a great video. I really appreciate very much the detailed informations you're giving to us. We have the "How to " and the "Why".
You should join Matt Wagner team from DCS for developping training modules !!
Thank you for the time you're putting in assembling so good vids !!
Waiting for your next video.
And again, many thanks !!!
Cheers Gilbert!
Absolument fantastique vidéo....Merci..
That low fuel notification sound sounds like it's saying "herky derky."
Very good overview. Informative and rich with important insights. Thanks.
Very good tutorial Redkite...honestly, I really learned a lot lmaoo I thank you
This is a good complement to Jabbers vid.
Great display of bolter!
This is so freaking awesome!!!
Incredible complete explanation, thank you for your time.
Beautifully done step thru!
I know the Carrier Ops for the Flanker D. I am here because from tommorow the Hornet will be free for 1 month.
@redkite the launch bar is what pulls the aircraft to launch. You do not want to raise it before launching.
I understand that this has no effect in game, but for realism sake, don't raise it. In real life, it wouldn't even be possible as the launch bar would be locked into the shuttle. It automatically raises and moves the switch position when you raise your gear.
It's part of the real take off procedure. Once attached The launch bar will remain held down by the shuttle, along with the hold back bar installed behind the gear (not shown in dcs) they raise the switch before take off so it doesn't need to be pressed after take off. reducing pilot work load. Technically at the moment you don't even need to lower the launch bar. I'd rather teach people the correct method in case it changes in an update later.
Great tips, thx a lot for taking the time to do this video.
Another great video! Again, thanks for doing this!
11:20 till end clearly shows F14s on the deck. And since there is no way for them to get there without landing on the carrier it must mean that F14 module is getting close to release as well. 😁
Don't want to burst your bubble, but they're static ai models, there's an old low detail F-14a tomcat that's been in dcs for a long time. Don't get me wrong though i'm confident we'l get some news on the Tomcat in the near future now the hornet release has passed.
Twas but a joke. Yeah, heat blur is close. Probably 2 weeks now. 😁
Very nice video this helped me a lot, thank u.
How did u took that beautiful scenes ?
I've been considering making a video on this for a while though it's a low priority at the moment.
Does DCS incorporate cross winds??
If so it would create a greater level of difficulty and therefore more realism and fun.
DCS has simualtion of wind and turbulence, though carriers sail into the wind deliberately during take off and landings. This means you'l never land on a carrier with a significant crosswind. Runways however are another matter :)
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Wow amazing!!
And thanks for the quick response! 👍👌
I don't even have the game... Watch it till done lol
It's free to play
@@BzBlade only 2 free planes
Doing this IRL at gale with a bouncing boat, night with no moon and strong heavy rain..
0:32 Hmm that wheel is next-gen Technology. :3
I'm pretty sure that's why you can't turn, the wheels are facing horizontal therefore turning left and right becomes non existent
Awesome tutorial!
“Ride the ball all the way to the deck”
I think you should correct a little bit about throttle on launch you have to lift those finger slats to get full burner otherwise you cannot get full AB;)
You are correct, however from what I've heard from pilots the finger lifts are not required in real life to reach burner, it's either something odd with the way it's simulated or a 'bug' and i expect it to change.
Thx for info;)
Isn't it flaps to HALF for take off? Nice video!
From NATOPS manual........8.2.5 Before Catapult Hook-Up. Before taxi onto the catapult, complete the takeoff checklist, set the
standby attitude reference indicator for use if the HUD fails during the launch. With flaps HALF or
FULL, the takeoff trim button should be pressed until the TRIM advisory appears and then the
horizontal stabilator trim should be manually positioned for CG location, excess end airspeed and
power setting for launch.
Oh, I see. So it is either HALF or FULL for the carrier launch. Thanks for your feedback!
1CAG Here is a great resource if you are interested in operating the Hornet as professional aviators would. info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I thought AOA is the angle between your wings and the airflow not the angle between your wings and the direction of travel.
It is, but generally speaking your direction of travel is the same as the airflow, i'm generalising for sake of simplicity.
3:35 lolz, did it in the first run while screaming at the flight instructor
I was gonna get an F-5 to learn how to fly a jet... *But now I WANT F-18 Hornet!!*
Hornet is basically the evolved form of the f5 :) very different experience though.
using throttle to change altitude sounds counterintuitive to me but then ive never flown an F/A18 or similar, especially not on a carrier approach
Land base aircraft also adhere to this technique, although they perform a flare before touchdown. its to insure you land with the correct configuration for you wheels / hook to avoid tail strikes. if you pitch the nose up and down you'l change altitude but also change the angle you're hitting the deck, in the case of the hornet that could mean the hook missing (nose down) or getting smashed off against the deck (nose high)
0:22 ah, the old low-poly f-14!
I just can't get why there is not a line for take off trim at 18° between 48000 and 49000 lbs
Great tutorial, very well explained. Thanks!
Very good explanation! Well done and thanks!
really informative well done!
Another great video! Keep it up. But i still wonder why i cant get NWS HI. Even i did pressed "S"
Are you using anti-skid?
RedKite i am. But usually it will just go back to NWS.
Im not sure of the ins and outs of the Hornet's Antiskid, but it affects the availability of NWS on other aircraft. You should see NWS on the hud, or NWS HI if it's enabled, are your rudder axis working?
RedKite yup it is... its ok. It seems mine work when i fold my wings
How about night trap?That would be interesting.
Nicely done.
E quando tem a trava nas rodas ? Como remove elas ? Pulou essa parte em
Thanks for the awesome video man!
hey what computer configuration do you use? Very impressed with how real it looks.. thanks
This was recorded on an i7-2700k, 16gb ram and an Nvidia 1070
Aren't you supposed to return the wing fold control back to hold and lock it there?
excellent tutorial; liked and subbed
Thanx :) Isn't it half flaps for CAT launch?
thats what I was thinking
Half or Full depending on weight and airspeed over the deck, I've always used full since in dcs we've a habit of loading our aircraft up heavy.
Won't full flaps induce too much drag though? Would you not be fighting the drag as you come off the carrier, surely a point in a flight where you really don't want that! (I haven't tried the module yet so not speaking from any experience, just wondering).
The catapult should get you up to flying speed by the time you reach the end. You dont need to accelerate yourself like the Su-33 does to stay airborne.
Do you have any reference to the full-flaps? /thanx :) Coz A.E. W. is saying always half, look in comments : th-cam.com/video/o5WrDUabaaQ/w-d-xo.html&lc=z235zphriq3aibydbacdp432lsgzjjxewkk2dstgxgdw03c010c.1528595430150569
Frottle?
This game would be a master piece if it would had an amazing story
Keep an eye out for the 'Raven One' campaign (based on the book series) which will be providing some of that! Due out some time late this year.
DCS at it's core is a simulator, but there are campaigns available which add in narrative and storytelling. Sadly cutscenes beyond what's doable inside the DCS mission itself are not (presently) possible.
I can't imagine having fun in a game this complicated
I'l agree it's complicated, but much like say dark souls, where learning is a very large part of the gameplay, it's very satisfying when things start falling into place. There's a great sense of achievement and very rewarding combat / multiplayer action as you get better. Naturally i can understand it's a bit of a barrier and not everyone's got the time to learn, but it's honestly one of the most fulfilling games i play.
Not having the game BUT useful for another game yeh this works nicely
i dont think su33s AOA indexer on the landing gear lights up,at least it didnt when i tried it about a year ago
I still have trouble trimming the plane when trying to land.
I can't move forward, the wheel chucks won't come off, how do we notify PC or what key feature do I need to enable ? Nevermind , use radio key " \ " , the backlash.
You've got to tell the ground crew to remove chocks (added since recording) if they're not responding try opening the canopy, or turning your radios on, (they can't hear you otherwise)
You're under-piloting your plane, you should gain confidence in your skill and not let the plane drive you. But you're not a painter either, which is good.
nice simulator but hopefully coming soon DCS have a few crew working on that carrier dek... like Jet mission in Battlefield 3... with full take off instruction by the crew...
There is a Carrier module for DCS in development which will feature heavily deck operations, atc comms and details around the boat. They're boasting it'l be the most realistic depiction of carrier operations ever seen in a sim, but we'l have to wait and see :)
Thank you! I hope it will help 😉
How do you set up a mission starting ON the carrier??
Hello very nice vid, very good work thank you. Can you say me how to use the Plat cam please? Coz i can't move it or zoom in/out with mine like you :( thank you in advance.
Camera was moved by use of TrackIR head tracking, RCtrl / and * zoom
Hum thank you for the zoom with RCtrl and / and * it's working (i have tryed only with * and / or Rshift and * or /) but my trackIR move don't work for moving the camera :(