As Many True Things & As Few Ham Things (feat. Matt Dillahunty) - (Ken) Ham & AiG News
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- Ken Ham and his team have a bi-weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
Matt Dillahunty and I join Ken Ham, Dr. Georgia Purdom, and Bodie Hodge as they discuss the Ark Encounter, Bill Nye debate, secular humanist chaplains, ultimate meaning and more in this episode of Answers News hosted in front of a live audience at the Creation Museum.
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Honestly... the Ken Ham, Bill Nye debate is essentially what pushed my husband over the edge from creationism to evolution. That was one of the steps on his way away from Christianity and for that I am incredibly thankful.
Jeannette E I am really glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing it with us.
You don't hear of too many successful relationships between people so "religiously" opposed. How did that work?
Jeannette E , I envy your position, my spouse rejects all science on the basis that her preacher says that science and knowledge are laid out by Satan and when I try to get detailed about the many faults with religion, she then says “I don’t wanna know”. There’s no way to get thru to someone like that.
@@quantumrobin4627 And you married her why? Because she had a nice home and a good-paying job?
J M2064 Well no, her personality and her loving family are the only reasons I needed, absolutely not anything to do with finances or housing. She suffered a tragedy in her family shortly after we got married and she threw herself into religion to cope. I can’t have a reasonable conversation with her about religion and it’s contradictory premises. Therefore, I’m stuck with an extremely gullible but otherwise great spouse.
Ken Ham talks abut evolution ALL THE TIME, so he must believe in evolution
It was a crack about the common complaint that since Atheists always talk about god, they must be believers
@@TheKyrix82 i personally believe ken actually understands how evolution works, he just pretends not to, obviously since there's money to be made from exploiting the gullibles
manusiabumi I agree I’ve heard both Ken Ham and Ray Comfort say certain misconceptions about evolution, to then have it explained to them what evolution actually says, only for them to keep on saying the same misconception over and over again.
At which point they’re intentionally being deceptive.
@Poco Loco Yep, ultraevolution! It's super bizarre, they believe several million species were created from a few: 2 lions became every cat "kind".
So why couldn't apes become humans when our DNA is more similar than the DNA of lions and house cats is similar???
TheKyrix82. . 2 years ago. . Ken Ham talks abut evolution ALL THE TIME, so he must believe in evolution. 6 replies. 136 likes.
ken ham doesn't need to say anything
Jesus clearly said God created everything
I would not have believed that Ken Ham existed unless I had seen and heard for myself.
Ken convinced me with his speech that there is no intelligent higher power. If there was, it would not choose him as it's spokesperson.
Ken Ham doesn't exist. Don't believe me? Were you there?
What if there *is* a higher intelligent power and he/she/they didn't pick Ken Ham as their spokesperson?
That proves their intelligence!
Perfect
_Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile._
I like that one.
_"One day I was on the ark, there was a group of Catholic nuns, a group of Muslims from Baghdad, a group of orthodox Jews, and then we had all sorts of other people from different countries and Amish and Mennonite,"_ and the barman said "Is this some kind of a joke?"
and after listening to the rest of Ham and AEG's the answer must have been YES!
So the animals who on this Ark were collected from all the religions from around the world..
"The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion." - Arthur C Clarke
The inclusion of atheism as religion makes me remember my favorite quote, "if a word can mean anything, than it means nothing." If religion is to have any meaning, it has to have specific meaning not the broad application Hammy uses.
Then*
This debate completely shattered my paradigm and was absolutely integral to my deconversion. I'll never forget sitting there, watching this debate, and my heart just breaking. If Ham didn't have any answers and only snark, and couldn't even point to good answers, then I didn't know what to do. Thanks, Ken Ham! Your debate saved my life!
"When an honest person finds out they're wrong they either stop being wrong or stop being honest."
You chose to remain honest, as painful as it was (I understand how you felt, ex-Pentecostal young earth creationist of 20 years.)
@@marcomoreno6748 I like that. Thanks
An hour long Ham & AiG?
Nice!!!
Couldn't be helped! Like what do you cut??? Wait until you see the next guests!!!! (SOOOO EXCITED)
With Matt Dillahunty... nicer!
Rhinoooo
word up VR
Only cuz Matt would't shut up!
Whether Ken and Ray know they are lying or not, they are both making a good deal of money off of deception and lies. Which for me, is damning enough.
Jeffrey P exactly, doesn’t their one true book say not to pursue worldly goods, ie. money
They’re absolutely liars
@@kendallchaosso as a Christian, it doesn't say you can't make money. However it does say worldly goods are not a measure of spiritual worth. Also, rich people will have a tough time doing what God wants because they are more concerned with their wealth.
However it does speak out against lying
I think this Matt guy might have a future in the atheist community. ;-)
give him a subscribe to boost his spirits
Where have you been for the past decade?
@Jimbo Sirette when and how?
He's definitely an up and comer :)
Matt must carry the torch that Hitch left lying. Sam Harris can be too much of a gentleman.
Matt is on?? For a 59 minute episode of Ham and AIGs?? You're too good to us.
Y.m3h5u ..b4f .. us hgt f.
Four year!
Do my eyes deceive me? An hour-long Ham and Eggs with Matt Dillahunty! YES PLEASE!
empirical evidence
When a Christian claims someone is close minded it’s when someone doesn’t automatically believe in their god.
I went to church during basic training because it got me out of work on Sunday for a few hours. I kept up the habit for quite a while, despite always being an atheist. I found that a great many people going to church didn't appear to me to actually be believers, despite saying they were. I found many women went because of social pressures. My mother fit into this category. She thought we would look bad if we didn't go. That mattered to her. Many husbands only went because their wife dragged them there. Anyone who wanted to move up in the military knew that going to church definitely helped, so they usually went. I also found that local business people would go to network and promote their business. At that time, many young people went because it was a way to meet other young people. I was always wishing that I could find a way to tell who REALLY believed.
Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!!
Matt & Paul for 60 minutes, you're spoiling us!
Let the dismantling of the Hamster commence!
59 minutes
Only because Matt just talks a lot Ha ha ha
Theyownyou ha sure, forgive me for rounding up 😂😂
I thought you were going to say "let the (live?) dissection of the ham(ster) begin"
"Sinner" rhymes with "Winner" which proves the existence of Satan, therefore God.
Questions? I thought not.
sound like sound logic to me
@@HellHoundzProductions I could totally see logic rap both of those words together, your so right!
It also rhymes with dinner and I could eat!!! I'm convinced...
@Stefan Bjarnason
As a Christian this might seem weird for me to say:"The day this statement become true denominational rhetoric is the day I'm taking a rocket to Mars, because Earth would've become too polluted by stupidity to be inhabitable."
@@DemonicRemption C'mon man. You're just jealous because I have derived an unassailable and impeccably logical proof for the existence of God, and you haven't.
No Nobel Prize for you!
To me, the genuine effort that Paulogia and Matt appear to put into formulating and presenting their arguments in such intelligent, thoughtful, and respectful ways really stands as a testament to their inherent good character and kind natures. I do believe that displaying empathy and compassion towards those whose world views differ can be more beneficial and effective in opening people’s minds, promoting thoughtful consideration and make them more amenable to new or different ideas and opinions than harsh discourse or antagonistic cruel mockery.
Channel is undersubscribed for sure, the work Paul puts in to his videos is amazing and the guests are always the best for the topic at hand.
thanks, jose
Agree completely.
Agree
This is awesome! So cool that you got Matt Dillahunty on your show!
he was very generous
The fact that there's no intrinsic purpose to reality is one of the most comforting things about existence for me personally
If there's no god, how did this amazing dream-come-true crossover happen?
#CheckmateAtheists
At around 35:45 when Ken is starting to dig in his heels regarding "The Meaning of Life" I was immediately reminded of my old standby "I don't care about THE Meaning of Life. I care about the meaning of MY life (and to expand, the meaning of individual lives!)
My two favorite atheists! Christmas came early this year!
This comment is genius.
This is an atheist-run channel. We don't allow Christmas around these parts, obviously.
Same. Paul and Matt are hard to beat on their own much less teamed up.
Paulogia Boxing Day?
Aron Ra rules but these guys are Great. Hawkins and Dawkins and Ra are on on Mt Rushmore with Matt on my Mountain
Well, that was exhausting but brilliant! Thank you Paul and Matt.
that sums it up well
Yay! Matt is on!
Oh, and Paul too 😂
KainaX122 Matt does have a way of taking the spotlight wherever he goes!
Bunny paul
WAHOOOOOO!!!
Paulogia, woot woot!!!
Nearly a full hour to boot?!?!
~Happy dance~
love to make the people dance
I like the safety dance
WOW! One of the reasons I love your show is that is shows how ignorant I am on some stuff and that is the first step to acquiring more knowledge :) Matt definitely did an amazing job of that, a wonderful guest.
I want to display my admiration for you. You are willing to admit your downfalls and move past it. This is extremely admirable in my eyes. I know I'm just some internet nobody without a checkmark, but I think you are awesome. Thank you for seeking knowledge earnestly and honestly. Keep learning. Keep seeking the truth of your knowledge.
-A seeking father.
@@mazingdaddid Please honey DO NOT call yourself A nobody,That hurt me,and I hurt for you.LOVE YOURSELF AND just do you💖
yeah, I wouldn't want to be known as the "world's authority on debating"... it just doesn't sound right to be the Master Debater.
great channel name!
El Carpe I could be the apprentice bater. Working toward being a master.
Tina Springer How about if a group of us became the Mass Debaters?
🤔🤗
And because of my social status, I require you call me Mister Debater... but I'm good at it... so would that make me Mister Master Debater?
If you start going off the deep end, we could call you the Mental Master Debater.
Is it weird that I really like the opening jingle?
No, it is not weird.
Heck naw! It's quick and catchy. It will get in your ear and then you'll find yourself singing it.
Part of the reason l love clicking on Paul's vids is the singalong.
I have found myself humming it at random times. It's catchy.
Not at all, I adore it too
I don't think I could ever change it...
Paul AND Matt?!? I clicked on this so fast I didn’t even see what it was about lol
we baked a cake
They made ham and eggs
The cave analogy was gold. Loved it!
i cracked up when i saw the logo on Ken's computer. an apple with a bite taken out of it. what's wrong with me.
Matt Dillahunty? YEAH BABY!
ooh sweet, matt is Back.
Ken can dream a dream, I did read that book, im not afraid to say the bible made me a atheist.
Ham definitely lies. But he believes in his 'ultimate truth' so he probably feels he has to lie to save souls.
Noble Athenian Yeah he said that there are no transitional fossils and have an display of an archaeopteryx, some flaws in the display, which is an transitional fossil.
Noble Athenian
Just like killing, if it's for Jesus it's not a sin, it's righteous.
MetalJacket same with all the tens of thousands of gods... apparently killing is absolutely fine if someone thinks their particular God is patting them on the head in encouragement.
MetalJacket - that is exactly what the christian chaplains say in the military.
RE Hoover . If that's true then that is truly awful.
Paul, I look forward to your posts every week. When I saw Matt's cartoony mug on the thumbnail for this week's episode I cheered. I've been watching Matt Dillahunty for years. He has a way of putting things that just stops religious nonsense in its tracks. Can't wait to get into this episode. Thank you for all your work on these videos.
Best Paulogia episode ever! Ty Matt for coming to the show
Ken seems like the kind of guy who would stay up all night watching any videos available about him. That gives me hope that he watched this.
Let's hope!
Nah. He has unpaid lackies to do the grunt work.
A museum is a place where you learn something the ark is an anti museum you actually leave dumber.
My problem with Fundamentalism is:
I can See 'da mentalism' ,
But Where's the Fun? 😊
Why is That woman allowed to speak on AIG,does she not know her place according to her ( oh no HIS ).Bible she is to shut her mouth.🤐 ....
Ken is just a coward. He is SO terrified of death (and life) that he will cling to any alternative no matter ho w absurd to make him feel better. Grow UP!
logic dictates that money is greater then any thing else so it never going to happen
Hes just an immoral con artist.
. It’s just money. He might not even be Christian. A salesman sells.
I love this. Grow up, accept how small we are and die peacefully.
The nail in Kens honesty coffin was his statement that nothing would or could change his mind in the Bill Nye debate
I have to delay listening to this one. It looks like a good one that deserves my full attention. I'll be back after my work is done.
we'll be waiting
I can't wait for Paul to react to Ken reaching to Paul reacting to Ken reacting to things.
Also, now he only needs Seth Andrews to complete the Unholy Trinity. XD
ham mocking someone for using 'dogma' omg
Ham concocts dogmas for a living, yes?
@eric vulgate
Last I checked that was called "hypocrisy."
Reminds me of the joke: Did you hear about the Dogma that got ran over by the Karma?
Yo that black dot over the drawing of Matt actually got me to pause the video and try to clean my PC screen...
Ken Ham is proof of the Dunning Kruger effect
An hour?! Let's do it.
The Ken Ham debate was one of the things that pushed me in the direction of atheism. So, not a total failure.
I’m so glad you had Matt on, been looking forward to this! Love your show!
Glad you're back, Paul! Thanks for another great (hour long!!!) video.
I always crave ham and eggs after this and when I hear of Ken Ham I think of this channel.
Absolutely LOVED this episode. More like this please.
Very cool.
Clearly explained & well reasoned arguments certainly make for an interesting show.
My thanks to Matt & Paul (& the comedy stylings of Ken et al.)
Great Hamm and Aigs! Great Paulogia and Matt! I tried to watch this many times since it was posted, but kept getting interrupted. It was worth the wait! Love and Peace
I thought you were saying you watched it many times. :)
the epic level of people on this channel is pure epic.
Are you like a broken transformer?
beep boop.
I'm watching this with an AMD EPYC CPU.
OK... I'm not, but it would have been neat if I had, eh?
Deconverted Man epicly epic people, epic so epicly.
Got the Mormon Scientist Ad at the start. It's been happening a lot for me lately. Anyone else?
Must be the only Mormon ad I have not gotten. Heartily sick of CRTV ads.
I get a lot of Intelligent Design ones myself... like Matt replied on Twitter: we should be thrilled as it means they’re paying to advertise to an atheist audience! 💰
Martin Alix I let them play through - but sometimes turn the sound down. Took some "surveys" but doubt they liked my answers any more than I liked their spam back. I welcome their money.
let it run a bit so they get charged $$$ for the ad 😂😂😂
The Ham and AiGs jingle is the most whimsical thing I've heard in a long time. Always makes me smile.
Paul, you and Matt have both been extremely foundational in my ultimate conversion from Christianity... you guys are both great
This is why I am a patreon for BOTH of you. Awesome!
This should jump start the channel.
Thank you for this treat of having Matt on for as long as you did! Fantastic video.
Thanks, Paul!
he was gracious to appear. thanks, James!
Thank you Paul and Matt, both of you have helped me immensely crawl out of the hole I was in.
Both of you educators, and many others, have been incredibly helpful to me.
That's your best cartoon likeness yet, spitting image of Matt. lolol Great vid as always Paul. Peace!
31 min in, that AiG should be taking a potshot at secondary source Mehta is par for their methods course. 95% of all antievolutionists I measure (over 2300 currently tracked) do not cite primary science sources in their claims. Secondary source addiction & apologetics is their standard operating procedure. And think about it, what is the Bible but one very long undocumented secondary source.
good point!
Pushing apologetics commentors for their primary source is a very good way to make them evade and eventually get angry. It's a fun sport.
It's also the core of the source methods approach, which is a game such minds literally cannot play (otherwise they wouldn't have the views they do), so forcing them onto that field inevitably trips them up.
Lmfao, correct: I certainly don't usually include citations of any description on a yt thread. But when I write academic papers I rigorously cite using a version of the Harvard referencing system. And I mean rigourously because one error or omission can cost me my credibility. So if you want citations, look for them where they belong.
great episode, more of that stuff. Even if it is three times the normal length, it's not boring for a single second. good job :)
Already follow some of Matt’s stuff. Thanks for this collaboration. I enjoyed it.
My favorite ham and aigs. Where have you been? I have been waiting for you
we're back!
Hey! Best part of the week!!
Great analysis and video! Thank you for that Paul ( and Matt ), you definitely deserve more subscribers!!
I love how Paulogia just sits there and blink all the way through XD
Way to contribute Paul ;)
He's a blinkin' good listener!
Really enjoyed Matt's insights. Keep up the good work!
Cheers,
- Ozy
thanks, Ozy! I hope you got to connect with Matt in Toronto. We talked about you in Calgary.
Paulogia, Matt and I did meet up in Toronto prior to and after his discussion with Jordan Peterson. It was great finally meeting him in person.
I'm actually glad that the Ken and Bill debate happened. While thinking about it around a week afterward or so, I realized that I really didn't believe any of it and that I had no way to justify a belief in God.
glad you found your way out
Well done GuyNamedSean. First steps are hard to take.
mazingdaddid - Actually, that was more of the last step for me. By then, my faith was only hanging by a thread. The debate was the final thing to make me come to my senses.
@@GuyNamedSean fair enough. Either way, glad to have you with us.
This was a delight. Thank you gentlemen :D
Wonderful video. I really like the format where there is less AiG and more of you and your guests!
On the religious & fake news gullibility issue, the researchers probably need to be taking into account the "tortucanocity" of the believers, which I try to do in my own research. Its the "Tortucans" (turtlelike mindshell people whose brains can easily accept secondary sources, & don't think about things they don't think about) who are so easily able to accept confirming fake news, not necessarily a religious urge per se.
NIIIIIIIICE!!!!! Yay! MATT!!!
Wow guys! Way to go. Always take the high road. It always leaves one feeling that we done our best without deception and with explanation.
Woohoo! A long one and a good one! Two of my favourite TH-camrs for the price of one!
need more of this
an hour not enough?
its never enough :D
On the paying attention to evidence matter (23 min in) I'll just note that I am directly measuring how much of the data field antievolutionists (not just YECers) pay attention to. Overall they're only tripping into 10% of the relevant data field. So in principle antievolutionists cannot work out a viable competing model, since competing models would need to account for all the data the prevailing ones do.
James Downard exactly! I was telling my wife this the other day. I said it's one thing to say you don't understand evolution and you believe god created everything the way it is, but I ask how is that you explain all the evidence according to your world view? Are you postulating there's no evidence and that for decades people have just been making it up?
She just said those things don't matter to me, and I said, but you should when you are saying you're worried about heaven and god you should want to know if your faith is misguided.
James Downard
10% if that, and they most often completely misunderstand and intentionally misrepresent the facts.
James Downard
Great write-up, but the "tripping into" part was perfectly phrased, good sir!
I've been following Matt for the better part of a decade. Love hearing him reason through bad arguments. Great video!
An hour slapping the Hamster across the face WITH Matt D. Much fantastic, such fabulous. Wow!
every time I see that Ark tanker my mind wanders to Hollywood. Pearl Harbour, Sink the Bismark, Titanic, Torah Torah Torah, The Cruel Sea...is it possible that someone could buy the plot opposite the Ark Park and build a U-Boat- or even just a massive iceberg?
"Sink the Business Ark", "Titanic Ego" "Torah, Torah, Torah (the real Old Testament)" "The Cruel Deity" And then throw in a version of "Ship of Fools."
hah- i hadn't realised my freudian spelling mistake with Tora Tora Tora- much better than Pearl Harbour by the way.
Way better movie, no question. I thought the Freudian slip was your version of a cultural pun, I just ran with it. Still funny, though!
I do love a good pun- and even a shit one, so maybe my brain just went for it without telling me.
Battleship PotempkingoftheJews ?
A fleet of supply ships to point how the thing doesn't have enough stowage.
I do really like the U-boat idea. :) :) :)
I really enjoyed seeing Matt being a much more well rounded human that the "Matt destroyed Caller X" videos.
You guys are AWESOME!!! Much love
Matt is one of my favorite philosophers, if not favorite. Thanks for having him on the show Paul. Also bought a tee to support the show. Cheers bro!
thanks! please send a photo of the shirt when you have it.
Who is the babbling lady? I could barely understand what she said.
You're right. I couldn't understand her at all.
Paul speeds up those clips for the sake of time.
Timothy Mulholland he’s flat out confesses this in interviews where he states “well if you accept this part as not true then how could any of it be true?” He then usually explains for that reason everyone HAS to believe the book to be 100% fact.
Shane Liberty “the bible says the Earth exists. Science agrees that the earth exists, therefore the bible is correct about everything”
LOGIC
must a been a great read then took a hole 5 hours it too to read one sentences and work it out wow
Ha ha haH! Mat the Illusionist pops in! Awesome stuff Paul! Awesome stuff!
*Did someone say "magic"?*
I don't think Matt understood what he was in for :)
This was very informative, really enjoyed it.
This episode is my attitudinal ASMR. Matt's calm rationality mellows me right out.
You got Matt? Lol Paul you are awesome
Matt got me?
Paulogia I meant a guest on your channel :p
@23:42 - The Bible calls it "willfully ignorant" John Haggee calls the "Stupid on purpose"
I'm new to Paulogia and boy did i love that title sequence😂😂😂
Whoohoo!! So pumped for this episode!
Paul and Matt. This is like Lennon/McCartney!
who appeared in the video
I thought Ken Ham was telling a joke at the beginning. " A group of catholic nuns, Muslims from Baghdad & Orthodox Jews walk into a fake boat........"
Good for you, getting Matt Dilahunty is awesome.
This big ass 'arc' all around him & MD is looking at the woodwork, that is awesome. Great video
I was half expecting him to say they walk into a bar...
@@davidhoffman6980 That would be a sin
Cheers to one of the greatest Ham and AiGs videos.
Always love me some Dillahunty! Nice collaboration fellas.
Dillahunty! Get in!