Coronation Street Collection 17 Elsie & Ena
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Marvellous.
The truth is that, beneath their surfaces, Ena and Elsie were very much alike, strong women struggling for independence, which is why they were so close later in their lives.
Marvellous writing and acting.
Beautifully said 👌👍🏽
The acting superb compared to today, Pat was a superb actress.
What I love about their relationship was that they were exactly mother like daughter, I think Elsie always saw Ena as a mother, these were the golden days absolutely class and pure talent
It was touching to see that, despite their many cat fights there was mutual understanding and support for each other. Characters were so well written back then. Thanks for posting
The written dialogue is world class with some of the most talented actresses and actors.
Violet Carson and Pat Phoenix had such a rhythm to their dialogue, it was like music. Especially when they’d get angry.
Ena Sharples is a formidable force of nature. From before my time, now seeing the earlier years before the 80s she's quickly becoming a big favourite.
Eeh they dont make actresses like Violet Carlson (Ena) and Pat Pheonix (Elsie) or any of the other actors that have been and gone from the Street (between 1960 and 1987 when Hilda Ogden left) Im glad people are putting the classic episodes online so people can enjoy them and discover them ❤❤
2 of the greatest ever soap characters
The acting on these old Coronation Street episodes was superb. Lovely to watch these. Can't watch the modern day show.
Today's young social media generations live a smartphone life (says I typing away) & can't do the basic social interaction of society. It's grim really. I stopped watching when the Aussie soaps started & Corrie began changing to their instant pop-up storytelling, no gradual or idle chit chat like Corrie done. They just cut that all away as flim-flam - but that's what held Corrie together like mortar does to brickwork or even Ringo did for the Beatles. Also I loved the Rover's weaving camera work from chatting group to group performed adroitly like a ballet. So Corrie just became another Aussie Soap & worse Ken Barlow looked & acted like a Mafiiso boss in these recent years. Who'd thought this back in these great days.
I never watched this series, but I can see it’s attraction, gritty reflection of real life. Smashing filming too.
It’s recorded on video tape, not filmed. Film was too expensive to use on a soap.
@@BLTKellys I stand corrected. I’m not knowledgable in such things
'I make no mention of names, but there's a certain woman as comes in this snug, and lull know 'oo I mean when I say she looks like a weasel in specs...' 😂😂😂
Queens!
Ena and Elsie will never be repeated as the talent just isn't there now. But more than that the writing is so poor nowadays I believe these two wonderful ladies would have refused to speak half of what is written now. This clip is pure class. Enjoy it and realise it will never be again.
the two greatest characters on british t v
no one will ever compare
The theme song from Coronation Street is legendary. It was very familiar to me even though I didn’t watch it voluntarily until 2000. It’s possible I heard it from my Great Auntie’s tv in Australia in the early 1980’s. She was addicted to soaps and I spent a lot of time with her. It has only been very recently that I have focused in episodes from 1976 onwards. The nostalgia is fantastic. I really believe the characters and storylines unlike the modern Coronation Street which is absolutely unbelievable. That is the beauty of British kitchen sink dramas of yesteryear. Am presently up to 1983. My reason for continuing is the Duckworths but I will miss Elsie Tanner…..Thank you for this wonderful post. ❤ I will head back to 1960 soon enough. What a wonderful social commentary. Tony Warren’s imagination is fantastic.
Brilliant i really enjoyed watching that ❤❤
As I've said before, in the early 70's, i had spent the summer with my aunt, and she would never miss this afternoon show, as I had to sit there, at 10, I was getting into this show. Then as a young adult Coronation street was on the t.v, and low and behold, there was some of the same character's! The same children were on it, but grown, I was hoked forever
Fabulous characters and actresses.
Whoa, it's 'actTORs' now.
Elsie was so glam 🌟
Ena Sharples, no nonsense character who could take down anyone.
At the start of Corrie's beginning until '63 she was a nasty piece of work & a bad 'un, but the production side saw she was instantly recognisable in name & vision & thought we need to make her a bit likeable so they softened the corners but kept the essence of Ena & she like Elsie became a institution.
Sharples was a horrid pointless existence person.
you could not beat the old episodes of coronation steet
Depends on ya standards I suppose Ann.
Absolute gold when the street was great
From New Zealand born 1965, my first memories of TV and probably first opening credit music of TV shows that I remember. Omg, it is a wonder we didn't pick up the accent, maybe we did....
These shows were made when they were far more organic, not all the white teeth and cleaned and preened like they are now.
Andrew MacPherson half the beauty of them 😉
The Tony Warren days.
Both extremely talented people the actors on Corrie today come no where near rip to them both.
"I'll physical side you over that wall, ya old bat!"
Elsie kept getting younger looking lol
I think there were some poignant scenes between Elsie and Ena. Those were when Ena showed a maternal concern for Elsie when the latter was at her most vulnerable. It showed at such times the mutual respect each had for the other despite their petty differences.
Don't make em like Ena anymore.
I didn't want this clip to ever end
You must be bloody joking love?
Wonderful characters. We do need character's like this today
There aren’t characters like this today. Society has changed and made people witless.
Oh yes I do love the old episodes
Brilliant acting loved these beloved characters absolutely superb
Some of best one liners i ever heard
Well you ain't heard much then 'ave ya love?
20:56 Somehow I can't see Minnie ever 'gettin 'er mad up.' Can anyone?
Elsie was gorgeous in the 60's, she was even more beautiful in the 80's, absolute knockout. 🌹
The best of frienimes!
Too young to remember these characters, but the cross hairs are infamous, but their tender moments do make me smile. ♥
The confrontation at the start was great viewing. It says everything that Elsie Tanner realised that Ena Sharples was telling the truth and that knocked the fight right out of her. Deep down Elsie knew Ena was just as strong and bold as she was herself and would not have had any problem telling her the contents of the letter to her face had she been guilty.
pure British drama, in your face, no excuses, real and emotional moving.
Weren’t they wonderful. So much more entertaining to anything that’s on the T. V today. Am I right in thinking that it was live in these days. Such a joy to watch.
In the early days, they would send one episode out live and then record the following episode straight after as live.
Proper Corrie, not like the rubbish they make now.
How I agree with you. In those days most of the actors and actresses in the programme were from Films and/or Stage, so acting was second nature to them and it shows. Sadly many of those great actors & actresses are no longer with us.
Nowadays most of the actors & actresses in the programme are straight out of acting school and are so 'full of them selves'. Many have a lot to learn.
Then you don't recognise how brilliant the actors are now . Times move on . If they didn't change it, it wouldn't have survived.
@@jaycobbina9529 the show is garbage now.
@@jaycobbina9529 Recognise what? Talentless ‘stars’ that are in it now.
Omgosh. The original and why...my mum, grandmother and aunties loved. Saw 2019. WORDS cant be said. !!! Terrible. Script writer's need thrown of a bridge. Terrible.
Thank you. Great writing, story lines and they nailed the characters. Appreciate sharing. 👍
"We don't need sewers around 'ere, we've got Ena Sharples!" Love it, they don't make ladies like this anymore
Well they certainly described that horrid woman correctly.
Awe, cheers for this. (Should be able to bag from 1st Episode, but would need plenty more ShelveS eh ;-)
I love the boom mic coming into the shot at 20:55
Edna Sharpens was reminds me of the days she was piano player for Wilfred pickles as her name is Violet Carson in his radio show Have a Go..
Did Hylda Baker tell you her name?
Nothing like the old days
Yes they were good time. I would hate to sound pessimistic, but I does not look like we will get the good old days back.
Simon Shreeve Life was just as hard back then. Don’t be naive.
Thank the Lord!
Best characters in British TV ever
The outside set looks like it was indoors!
It was! The original set was inside the studio.
In one of the very early episodes you see Ken Barlow step from the pavement onto the road, but it's all a painted floor.
The first outdoor set was a simple facade, then the set was built on the Granada Studio lot, opened in 1982 (I believe) by HM Queen Elizabeth 2 and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
That set has not long been demolished and a new one built at Media city in Manchester.
Great to see Pat Phoenix and Anne Reid together.
Road to coronation street brought me here, I was born late 80s .Oh My god its amazing, Totally different to the Corrie i grew up with. Elsie was drop dead gorgeous and Ena was amazing. I felt nostalgic for those times.
Thank you for posting this - wonderful to see!
This old UK soap was really good from what I see here. Too bad I never knew of it since it’s not in the States❤️
ena sharpeyes!
£350 for a house? Try buying a house for that much today lol
Sarah buying? my god you cant rent a room for that in many places!
Yeah but you made a lot less back then too...it sounds cheap but not when you compare wages of today then yesterday plus you got more bills today with cell, phones, internet, cable ect that you didnt have back then which also made things more affordable in those days!
350 was worth a lot more then. Went much further.
Toilet roll will cost the same soon.
This first colour scene in Coronation Street could only be in December 1969, because Alan Howard's first appearance was December 1st 1969 and the woman narrating this said 1979 by mistake meaning 1969.
Precisely what I was thinking when I watched it at that point at 1:07:50
Elsie Tanner and Edna Sharples clashes almost as much David Platt and his sister Sarah had done about 45 years later in Coronation Street. Come to think of it Elsie Tanner and Ivy Tilsley clashed just as much as David and Garry Windass did later.
The bloody acting nowadays, those two put it to shame.
Two legends ❤
I love the formality (yes, there's more, but want to mention this bit). Are You Being Served? ran for ten years and all the way through, they maintained 'Mrs. Slocombe, Captain Peacock, Miss Brahms, Mr. Humphries'.
It was the rarest occasion when they mentioned their first names (ironic I thought, Miss Brahms initials were SB and Mrs. Slocombe's were BS), but as two women who have known each other all their lives, it is still Mrs. Sharple and if need be, Mrs. Tanner, tho clearly she called her Elsie at times.
Yes these two were two of my favorite characters and I totally agree with your assessment. Also most of the older generation at that time were actually loveable creatures, sadly they have passed away. One of the characters I would I suppose came close to them in my opinion was Blarnch who played Kenneth Barlow's mother in law, sadly she too has passed away. Since then I have stopped following the series. I also feel they have lost that dialect, was I Liverpuddlien? Of course it has alot to do with the script writers. Thanks for the memories.
It's a Manchester and Lancashire accent. My older relatives still speak like this. Look book cook is luke buke kuke
Ena Sharples expressions were superb. 'Promises like a Pie Crust'. 🤣
The scene between 49:45 and 50:30 proves that this was filmed before June 1965. It is because Leonard Swindley's (Arthur Lowe) last appearance in Coronation Street was the last day of May 1965.
Dad's Army had started yet, '68ish? so was he pushed or shoved. Once he took Dad's Army that was that for any further work elsewhere. Mind you Swindley was no difference to Mainwaring. Same character all round. Everyone watched Dad's Army but not Coronation Street.
Didn't know Alf was in these early episodes
Alf was a minor character to start with. I believe he worked with Frank Barlow at the GPO sorting office, but would have known the men of the street due to the pubs and maybe ww2
that was nice
Elsie/Pat Pheonix looked so much better in the 70s and 80s. It isn't logical but this lovely lady did. Dennis's character should have been gay he was always so camp, but of course that wouldn't have happened then, but all the signs were there. What a GREAT character was Dennis Tanner.
I always felt he was gay too but being 1961 , they couldn’t say it Although the Creator of Corrie was gay
At 1:24 Dennis calls Minnie Caldwell "Mr. Tatlock."
I never realized Elsie had the same three bird ornaments on her wall as the Odgens...47:27
So did Harold and Mary Wilson 😂
12.40 'Appen you don't like being gossiped about then, Elsie, when you've done nothing? 'Appen Christine didn't like it either...!
Bloomin' eck-Elsie's known Ena a long time, if she first asked Ena for advice when she was six! That'd have been in about the 1920s, wouldn't it? (Think Elsie would probably have been forty-something when Corrie started, considering Dennis ( her son) was an adult.)
Elsie Grimshaw was born in 1923 and moved into Coronation Street in 1939 as a 16/17 year old bride, Ena hadn't moved into the street at that point, but she was nearby.
Bloody hell. £350.00 for a house. My God, properties were dirt cheap in those days.
Don't I wish We had bought instead of investing I dairy farming!
Imagine people were on £20 a week and could buy a house for 18 weeks wages but they didn’t !!!
My parents bought a house for £1000 in 1967. We moved out in 1978 but I've since learned the house is now worth £800,000!
19:00 James Dean Vibes 🤤
He’s absolutely stunning. There’s a scene of him with his body on display in the sitting room… absolutely breathtaking.
So this is how it looked like in 1960’s...
Yes colour wasn't invented till colour TV's were invented.
Most Be Dramas.
1:07:56 - Judy gets the year wrong of when Elsie met Alan Howard. It was 1969 not 1979. Other than that though, this is a superb collection of clips
Is it true that The Book that Saturday Night & Sunday Morning was the inspiration for Coronation Street. I feel sorry for both Elsie & Ena in the sense that they both had issues from the past. Ena still looked at Elsie as a "Scarlett Woman" while Elsie is still looked down upon for coming to the Street at Sixteen in 1940. Ena calls herself a Religious Woman but she should remember the Biblical Quotes "Though Shall Not Pass Judgement On Anyone without casting the first stone", "Those Who Live In Glass Houses Should Not Throw Stones", and "Let He/She who is without Sin step forward." I remember when the Late Jeanne Cooper (Ex-Katherine Chancellor) The Young & The Restless embarrassed Jill (Then played by Deborah Adair) bringing up her past but John told her he didn't think any less of her and if she fell in love with an Older Man Phillip Chancellor so what.
23.20 she fucked up lol
Hi do you have the one with elsie and len or has it been deleted?
Sophie O'Connor I do indeed have Len & Elsie, unfortunately I had to take it down
Is there any way you can upload it again or somewhere else?
Well, they should never have made up the rumour about Christine having another boyfriend anyway. I mean ok, she was much younger than Frank, but she was an adult so what business was it of Ena or Elsie?
They only did it to try and give Frank & Christine a chance at being happy without people gossiping about the age gap - however, each thought that the other was going to warn Frank about what was being said and to ignore it, it was just to put people off the scent.
Mrs Walker had a less refined voice in these episodes. She has a Lancashire accent, very different from later Mrs Walker.
Watching this makes me think that Hollywood stars are grossly overrated and overpaid
One big elite club that lot and it's packed full of perverts and weirdos 😂
As I Understand it the man with glasses at the point 40:15 is Stacy Dorning's father. Stacy Dorning was Ethel in a T.V. series about a naughty boy 12 years later.
Simon Shreev
I remember her in Black Beauty, then later the sitcom Keep It In The Family.
It was live in them days
So Elsie and Ena are going to pretend Christine's got another boyfriend, in order to get her and Frank together? I'd have thought it'd have the opposite effect-and make Christine mad at BOTH of them!
It was a case of give Christine another boyfriend who, with people talking about him, it would take the scrutiny and pressure off of Christine and Frank to get to know each other better.
However, no-one told Frank, who thought that he was the last person to find out about this pretend boyfriend.
Paul Brouwer I get that, but wouldn't it have been easier to just let things take their natural course between Frank and Christine? I mean what were they going to tell Frank anyway? 'Oh, we're spreading a rumour about Christine having another bloke in order to help get you two together.'? Am I the only one who thinks this is a strange way to go about it?
@@alexanderjones9572 That's what they were trying to do.
Frank and Christine were being talked about and so it didn't give them much of a chance to let things take their natural course.
I think that Elsie & Ena would have put it a little bit more tactfully when they told Frank.
Was that a fourth wall break at 11:06? I didn't know they used to do that.
Again at 17:00.
I dont think its intended as a 4th wall break. Its more a case of Ena verbalising to herself. But its always a writers weak device when they resort to that. After all, Vi Carson could have said all that with a look!
cauldbairn No😎
I remember this from when I was a bairn. I have never watched it since then because I think it's awful and nothing like it's original format
Didn't it go weird when it went into colour.
It was weird and horrid always.
Maybe I’m wrong - but it’s odd that Ena didn’t know who Elsie‘s husband was because I thought Elsie had lived in town for a long time as had Ena so I’m not sure why Ena didn’t know who her husband was
If it's her first husband Arnold, I'm not surprised. Elsie moved to the street in 1939, Arnold would have gone off to fight in the war, so that was nearly 6 years of not seeing him on a regular basis. I don't know how long it was after the war that he left Elsie and the two young children, but he did, only to come back admist the poison pen letter saga.
@@Paulious78 Thanks ! Yank here who only discovered this show a few years ago - appreciate the insight!
Would I be right to say that is Sir Richard Attenborough talking to Ena!
Which part are you talking about?
Paul Brouwer The man that tells Ena about some property he reminds me of a young Richard Attenborough but I bet I'm wrong aren't I?
It's an actor called Richard Dorning. I know what you mean about a young Richard Attenborough.
Paul Brouwer He is very good but I knew you would understand where I was coming from with what I said. Thank you Paul I do enjoy these early Coronation Streets.
It's not Dickie, although he did do a few Northern based film dramas around this time so it's easy to be confused.
People like Ena needed to mind their own business.
Pmsl..Good luck!
I remember ladies of her age back in those days
She was innocent on this occasion.
the houses are the wrong way round when ena leaves the pub
Which point in the piece??
45 seconds in
I don't think that they are round the wrong way. What i think has happened was that back in 1961 when this was shot, there was only an indoor set and it was either shown live or recorded as live.
With there only being enough space to put up half of the street set, they didn't think people would notice that it didn't take that long for Ena to get down to the middle of the street.
I am very sure that I have the full episode and I will take a closer look at the full thing.
good point, nobody could pause the images then either.
Paul Brouwer .m
cor blimey, judy finnigan's gone downhill fast! make's ena sharples look glamerous now
David James
These videos were made in the early 1990's lol