He was wrong for moving her and her child to his place and then dumping her and putting her out in the streets literally. That's a horrible thing to do.
I believe that is illegal in the USA as well. Once cohabitation is in one place for a certain period of time, there are " residency rights." See an attorney !!
One of the best things to do is, #1, don't become involved with a single Mom, #2, don't move your girlfriend in with you, #3, don't suggest your girlfriend to quit her job.
Great in hindsight but men who come to PI for the women often think with the wrong head. You could give that advice to any guy in any country. Unfortunately we don’t have the inclination to delve deep into every law of the Phils BUT i have heard many vloggers warn about this and other important rules and attitudes of the people here that would affect visitors - spend more time checking out channels like Mike’s and less time checking out what’s below your belt. “Hell hath no fury” etc …………..
I had a gf in Philippines. Rented a nice condo after 1 year. We didn't fight but I knew she wasn't into me. So I left. I knew she couldn't pay the rent. Better than kick them out,just leave it's easy. Whatever you do, do not piss them off. You can die. 🙂❤️🙏🇦🇺
no, he should have had a sit down meeting/arbitration with the barangay representative present. hash out a "severance package" of 10k to 30k php for her to be able to get back on her feet. Davao is her home town, so its safe to say she has family there.
@@GizziiusaYou are so right! And during those negotiations she will think she is pregnant to better negotiate. Not against all girls, but the ones that know how to use the government against the guy.
@@IB4U2Cme Yeah sure, she can use that tactic. 1) the severance package still holds. b/c she can go back to work while preggo. 2) clocks a ticking, approx 9 months. if there is a legit baby and DNA says its yours...proceed cautiously, and prob with an atty in your corner. 3) cant make ppl stay together in a home that dont want to be...thats a recipe for disaster.
He had a good thing going in Cebu but he screwed it up. Its not the girl's fault at all. If she still had a job and her daughter being taken care of by relatives then he could have said I have lost feelings but I am willing to give you 50000 peso's and we call it quits no hard feelings. It could have worked out in her favor.
@@ed5308I understand that people are poor there but it's a low blow to make up false accusations to get easy money as well. I am not supporting this particular guy but the number of scams I have heard or read about really scares me from even talking to a Filipina because it sounds like they can make up any story they like and nobody will believe the foreigner no matter what. It's called corruption and even the so called law are in on it in some cases. In any other normal country you should be able to sit down and say this is not working out mutually and going separate ways is the obvious thing to do. In my country there wouldn't be a cash payment expected unless joint lease and that kind of thing needs to be settled and their share determined too. This man did do things the wrong way but months in jail or more is a bit over the top. A financial contribution at worst. This sort of thing will hurt Philippines more than it helps them. I have been twice but compared to Thailand tourism was weak there and I put that down to kidnappings, crime and now I think these kind of laws. If what we are told by the girls about Filipino men running away from getting gf pregnant is true then why arent they getting found and prosecuted? How many times is it found out the girl has several foreign bf and a local husband or bf as well. No wonder the country struggles with policy like this. But still I am also against straight out dirt bags too so don't get me totally wrong here.
@@ericjames7819 If you have the money, you should pay. You think they going to throw every guy who does this in the Philippines in jail who has no money? Its just not foreigners held responsible, wealthy Filipino families r 2
He f'd around and found out. Imagine him thinking he was sooooo important that he could make a child homeless at 5pm at night, in a city they were strangers in. He's getting what he deserves. I don't know how angry she made him, but you could never convince me the child deserved this. Whatever the legal consequences are, we can be sure he'll be blacklisted and deported after his punishment.
@@woobeforethesun or let’s imagine him figuring out he stepped in a world of hurt and wanted out. Imagine him realizing that he can’t support his wife’s entire family and if he tried he’d be on here begging for money eventually. Yeah let’s imagine this scenario first.
@@Gizziiusa You're correct, he did say home town. Did you also hear the bit where he said the police organised their accommodation in 'an emergency shelter'? To quote "where she ended up spending the night.". That doesn't sound like she was just able to go be with her family?
@@TandCinthePH It didn't sound like a world of hurt from Bob's own words. He just had a change of mind. Let's assume you were right though. How does this make it OK to throw out a 10 year old child onto the streets at 5pm at night, to the point they had to stay in an emergency shelter that night?.. You're actually OK with that? It says more about your own personality that you'd support him on this, sadly.
Bob is an absolutely horrible man. I can understand wanting to break up, but you have to be respectful about how you go about it. Throwing a woman and her daughter out on the street with nothing is a very insane thing to do.
Wasn't his wife and wasn't his daughter. I live in the USA and there is no such law as that here. You are also assuming that Kelly was the perfect partner and did nothing wrong.
@@bobdobbins229by the information given what he did wasn’t nice. As he knew jobs are scare and the country is very poor. So what he did was essentially a death sentence of sorts. Please don’t defend that kind of behavior
Republic Act 9262 states Humilation is considered Violence, therefore he is guilty. Like it or not, personal relationships come with risks. Best course of action is to treat people with respect and tread lightly when breaking up. Even if the girlfriend was a jerk, it would be better to extract yourself from the situation and surrender the rental.
Humiliation will also cover 'loss of face' in a public place. Picking up your possessions in a rubbish bag from the public reception desk will qualify 100%......it is about as low as you could go. Loss of face is a serious issue over there, and surrounding countries. The Judge and Bob will be having serious but interesting conversations in the near future.
After 18 months of living with my gf in PH, she suddenly demanded a baby, and now. We had been in a LDR for 8 years and I visited twice a year. From the beginning, I made clear that I would not have a child with her and that she should find another man if she wanted a child. She thought I would change my mind. After her demand, I immediately told her that I was moving out of the country. I also peeled off 25 100 USD bills put them in her hand and told her the fully equipped apt. was hers to do with as she wanted. I landed in Thailand exactly five days later. I guess I was lucky.
No luck there. You didn't leave her on the streets with no resources and a 10 year old child. In fact, you were more than generous giving her the resources to put her life back together without you.
If you get Involved you risk getting setup, they can change their mind at any time, their Terms of Service will change at any moment, you will never know the consequences of a breakup till it happens, alot of things can and do go wrong, you wanna risk your Life then thats on you, dont be coming here crying about what happened to you when you knew better
Bob F UP by getting in a relationship with a single mother. He could have just stayed in the West and had a much larger selection of single mothers to choose from.
My frind had a relationship that fell apart. He said she had become unhinged, erratic and abusive verbally. He was worrying this could evan worse if he tried to send back to her province. So in his own words he took the cowardly way out. He told he had problems getting his money. Told here she could stay in the apartment till the rent was due next month but he had to leave and fly back home to get his money problems sorted out. Then he flew to another island and broke of all compunction with her.
@@marchoman1776 people don't understand, the Filipino is the bottom barel of Asian women to date . The problem is these woman from Philippines will say , I will date a foreigner because Filipino are abusive and cheater. But Filipina are exactly the same as they are of course a Filipino citizen. I was in a same situation like your friend, and I managed it the same, just lie to her and vanish. Filipino and Filipina are the same abusive verbally. I hope the people will realise is not worth to date these creatures and leave Filipina alone, is not worth the hassle trust me.
😒 go somewhere else, theres alot of countries that dont have that reetarded law, you dont want her around you have the right to dismiss her at will, usually the reason is because you found out she was cheating on you, dont matter if she has kids or no kids, you dont have to be a sucker or a cuck, have some Self Respect
@@Imold774 but it's their country, this may be a shock to you but that's their right, we're guests here. Different rules, may not be fair, but that's the cost of being an alien.
Mike, you also forgot that you can end up in jail for even less than that. For example, if your wife / girlfriend finds whatsapp conversations with you and a new girlfriend admitting infidelity, yes you will go to jail. She can press charges and accuse you of psychological trauma and distress and violence against women. What Bob did is extremely serious, but there are many different ways a man can end up in jail in the Philippines.
@ElvisGarciaDeJesus-bl4cf That's actually what I thought this video was about. Would be good content to have discussed all the ways dumping your girlfriend could land you in jail
@@DennisSleeswijk No, true, with Whatsapp evidence is enough to bring charges againts you. I know this, i read it and my wife is from Cebu (now separated). Cellphone messages, pictures and voice mails are now enough to prove infidelity. You need to do a better research.
@@ElvisGarciaDeJesus-bl4cf You need lot less to bring charges. Just by hear-saying is enough to bring charges and it's up to you to proof your innocent. It is not enough to get convicted. And lawyers are pretty creative when such things that you mention is put on the table as evidence. In fact, if some people don't like you they can already file charges which you have to respond to. And they can just choose to not proceed with there charges at any time. Very annoying but up to you if you want to counteract and press charges for slander. Just to give an example how weak you are as a foreigner and best to stay low key on a friendly base with anyone you encounter. Foreigner who starts playing around, will risk be played with in return. But as always, to be convicted, proof needs to be provided and accepted by the judge. And lawyers are creative to convince a judge why provided proof is not solid enough to consider conviction based on the proof given.
AT the very least this guy will most likely be black listed and deported. I do not feel sorry for those that treat people like that when they are a guest in a country. Foreigners need to educate themselves on the rules/laws while visiting.
😂😂😂Bro you mentally ill pal. Being a guest in a country doesn't mean you can allow anyone to cut your throat. These people use knives when they argue so hard, is a high chance hi felt in danger. Is only one side of the story. People don't understand alot , these creatures from Philippines their judgement is way more primitive than a western mindset. People don't understand these people are still live in tribe and in a clan, their mind is not prepared for modern world.
@@ionutmititelu2083 I do not think I'm mentally ill but I would admit I'm mentally conditioned to deal with other people's and cultures of this world I did it for 22 years while serving in the military. This looking down on them like they are less a person than you because their not from the west is not respectful and is the kind of thinking that leads to problems while dealing with people in the Philippines.
Enough of the "guest in this country" crap. An old broken record. I'm not a tourist but a legal resident and put a lot of money into the economy. When it come to the law, people should be treated the same, equally no matter where they are from.
@@YouDcm Sounds like you do not view yourself as a guest. Unless you possess a Philippines issued passport or a foreign passport with duel citizenship then your out of luck on not being a guest in the country.
Oh you mean like the nasty illegal imgrants , ruining the usa. Typical of woke democrats, I can see if hit psychically touch her. So f her but thr child, that's BS. I'll never go to that country.
Yeah, but how many times is woman in the Philippines, convinced these guys to build a home, knowing that they’re going to leave him and all his money is tied up in the house and he’s kicked to the street. Where is the cops? Where is the justice system?
Kelly is responsible as well. She chose to quit her job and move in with him. We didn’t hear about her attitude. How did she treat him? Did she deserve to be put out? With the child being involved, I would have done things differently.
Basically moving a woman in is equivalent to marrying her. Possibly even letting her stay over occasionally and keep things at his place. Men need to know this before deciding to move to the PI.
Yeah, and if it still doesn't work out, make sure to leave her better off than she was when u met her. You'll accumulate a rep, really bad one, deservedly so, if not.
Being an attorney in the Philippines is all about taking advantage of foreigners in every way possible to survive. It's a fact of life in the Philippines, and until the US government intervenes and begins to investigate these cases that local men are never subjected to, it will continue to happen.
U.S. government can’t do squat when it comes to intervening in how other countries operate their justice system 🤣🤣🤣 read your passport where it CLEARLY states: when you are in a foreign country do not violate their laws, the American embassy may not be able to help you. you have ZERO rights as an alien in a foreign country, if you don’t believe that just watch the documentary “locked up abroad “ plenty of horror stories to watch 😉😉
😒 Exactly, you sound like your in the know, I have a lawyer down in Latin America and he keeps me out of trouble and hes got connections where we can grease some palms if we have to, im always asking him about Hypotheticals, the what if senarios, use some common fn sense and understand that any Local Law is going to be exaggerated to F over Foreigners, the interpretation is going to be more severe for you as a foreinger, whereas the local fups get off easily and cheap, Locals are looking for marks and suckers and shmucks and targets, of course they are going to play Victim when things dont go there way, use more common sense: whatever country you setup shop for Long term wether thats an extended tourist visa or residentce or citizenship you need to retain a Family Divorce Lawyers and a Real Estate Lawyer, become their best friend, pay the consultation fees and sit down with them and run some senario with him, make sure you have his card and number on you and make sure even knows that your Legaled Up. Also get some connections with the local police and people on the inside at the Court House. Just in case always have a bugout bag and your passport ready to go so u can leave the country, if you cant leave thru the airport then ask around and find a boat or something to get you out of the country by clandestine. And lastly DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH ANYONE, period, never, ever. Go Solo and Stay That Way. Dont be a little b looking for love.
There are two sides to every story. Does anyone honestly think a man should lose his life and liberty over this? If so, you’ve never spent time in a foreign prison. If the Philippines wants to boot him out of the country, fine. As to prison, absolutely not!
I think he should have to pay something to her for a certain period of time, maybe whatever money she would have earned in the amount of time between when she quit her job and when this happened plus expenses to move her and her child back to where they were. Then he should be deported and banned. No, I don't think prison.
threw mine out after 10 years. She got a new residence, I provided support for a while.. She was planning to have me killed for a will she had. It was no good. She also had a school f-buddy who was to off me. She was married but not to me.. The kid was in private school. I went to the barangy about this, and they tried to get me to let her back.. Her friends came in, and pressured me as well. The problem is the job loss for the girl, and the chld in school, and no money for their transition back... dumb! Even a PH judge would have ruled against her.
Sorry, but I have no respect for a guy who can throw a woman and her child out on the streets. He should've walked out and supported her and the child until she could get back on her feet. He asked her to quit her job and move, this makes them his responsibility.
Mike indicated that the guy had not been here before. Sounds like he hooked up with this 38 yo gal thinking he was doing great by western standards. Then he moved to Davao where he observed lots of foreigners with hot 20 somethings and thought he could just upgrade. So he makes everyone miserable to force the issue and her out the door. As everyone says, "their country, their rules." As we've seen before, you can even get charges against you making a scene and yelling at locals. 😉
Don’t buy, rent. If you break up just leave. Find a new place. If she wants to stay after the lease, then she can pay the rent. Also if she is working then don’t have her quit her job to be with you.
I'll stay in high end Hotels with camera's and make friends with a high end Lawyer in Cebu and hire his buddy Off Duty Police Officers to drive me around Cebu ... so no worry about Gold Digger Filipinas' ever trying to Accuse me of Republic Act 9262 and extorting my wallet.
Bob was not a nice person. Very inhumane way to separate. He should try to make amends now so the court will see he is trying to "do the right thing". Things could be worse. She could've claimed that he beat her and/or the daughter. FYI, currently in the US, many states go a step further. Once you invite someone into your home, whether it be for an hour or 6 months, if they don't leave you can't just throw them out. You have to evict them. Had they been in the US, the police would've escorted her back into the home and possibly have asked Bob to leave. In the land of no divorce its always better to rent than to buy.
In the US this is considered an unlawful eviction. The police will require that the woman and child are allowed to stay at the residence. The man can leave if he wants.
It's all about taking as much of Bob's money as possible. Look around the Philippines, and the locals will never be charged with laws supporting filipinas. Bob has been taken advantage of in all ways possible because he has money to steal.
Note the father does not support the daughter. That is humiliation, oh wait, that is expected. The point is there is a double standard for bastard fathers versus foreigners
Why didn’t they arrest the child’s father, didn’t he leave. Y’all sitting on here talking about Bob, when the only thing Bob did was leave his gf . The father of that child abandoned his child and gf. Y’all go over to the Philippines and accept anything. So, y’all suggest Bob stay in the relationship and be miserable.
@@mikesphilippineretirementhe behaved immorally. But she knowingly put herself in a position where this could happen. The end result assumes a woman isn't capable of being responsible for her actions.
So SAD - no human being should ever do something like this to another person. Just imagine coming home with your daughter and this happened to you? Break-ups are never easy but this guys - WOW!
If men would collectively put their foot down and stop enabling women's poor behaviors then this would stop. Since we keep indulging them, they keep doing this.
Can't just say avoid all single moms. I think it depends on the single mom , cultural upbringing, and other factors. But the way the guy treated the woman and daughter was wrong.
I think it was Paul's Asian Adventure that did a video awhile back suggesting something similar to what Bob did. It might be worthwhile to talk to a lawyer before breaking up with a woman you are living with to make sure you are handling it within the law of the PH. A $40 consultation (or however much a PH lawyer charges) could've saved him so much grief.
Treat all people with respect. There was no need to act an ass in that situation. I would have communicated my desires to end things, set her up with a nice lump of money, and made sure that she could support her child. There was no honor in the way that he moved. He has a right to change his mind, but he does not have a right to destroy the liberty of another person. He is in for a long ride. He should pay restitution to her and hope that the court finds it acceptable. I'd be terrified if I were him. This is a self-inflicted wound.
He deserves what he is getting, getting a job in the. Philippines can be very hard, the Girl friend gave up her job, the little girl was in school. I believe that Bob is very cold hearted.
As a British male I think bob behaved irresponsibly- took control of her life then locked her out . He should have paid the rent for her and given her some cash. We need to understand that laws and culture are different in Asia. I have no sympathy for him at all.
In other words, in her eyes she was "married". In the Philippine, they don't really divorce. They just split up and the woman moves on to another "husband" or the man moves on to another "wife". If you're going to get serious with someone here, you better be absolutely sure it is what you want permanently.
Another reason Vietnam or Malaysia would be my home base when my SE Asian slow days are over. Men need to wake up and look at the short and long term consequences of having relationships in the Phillipines. Men get seduced coming to the Phillipines without looking at reality. Theres so much misinformation also that leads to misinformed decisions with outcomes like this. Relationships aren’t guaranteed. Having a contract with reality is essential.
@@Jorg-po6oi I agree with you to a point but I would add that you should only consider moving to the Philippines if you have the capacity to think beyond the brain in your pants!! 🩲
Foremost people are not emotionally reactive. Guns are illegal in both countries. Those alone set the table for a very different dating climate. I have felt the most safe I’ve ever felt in Vietnam and Malaysia. I was in Vietnam for months and saw only a few police people. I felt the most peaceful ever the entire time I was in Vietnam. I didn’t feel someone was watching me all the time like it can feel in the Phillipines. Vietnamese women were at least as friendly as Filipinas. I found the kindest people in Vietnam. These were my experiences.
Bob is a sorry pos, that’s so wrong, she deserves better and he deserves to go to jail; if he wanted to break up that’s fine but that was a cowardly way to do it.
Bob thought he was in charge. He's going to find out the hard way. Right now, I'll bet you any amount of Pesos. He's blaming everybody else and not taking any responsibility for his actions.
@@mistersniffer6838 you just said it yourself: had he been a Filipino, nothing would have happened. He should have been smarter about getting rid of her.
Bob encouraged her quit her job, he will be ordered to pay many months support, retraining etc. It has been on several blogs last few years. Judges ttough if the man encouraged her to quit her job, add method of the break-up, he in deep trouble.
Bob, not cool, not fair to her, BUT HAVE YOUR ATTORNEY offer the judge a nice BIG gift (very common in the Philippines, $10k + ), and you'll go free, or a midnight boat ride to Indonesia from Mindanao on a merchant ship, they will give you asylum there. Should have done your homework.
Two sides to every coin. Where is the father to that daughter. She was single with child for a reason. If it was a toxic relationship he should have seen red flags and got out before displacing her and moving her in. I'm sure his other head clouded his judgement until it was too late. However, if she was a decent person then let justice prevail for her.
Mike I have a question. What will happen if Bob just pick up his stuff from condo and just left and moved to another place.Left condo for Kelly and her daughter.
@@mikesphilippineretirement Mike if Bob did what you suggest. Pay few months rent and pay some money to Kelly. You think He will be out of trouble. Or they can still charge him with whatever law is when you break up relationships.
More great advice to live/stay alone single/legal when you spend Winters on Cebu Island and enjoy your Retirement with zero chances of ever going to Boy Friend Jail from Republic Act 9262 or having to financially support a Filipina's whole family. As you heard, in the Philippines it is always "One Side of the Story" that matters.
Not All Men Are Bad Not All Philippina Women Are Bad She Held A Job Her Daughter Was Sorted. Bob Took Them Out Of Their Comfort Zone. Flashed About A Better Life . Then He Choose To Just Cut Down The Tree 🌴. No Matter How Different or Indifferent Philippinons are They Deserve To Be Treated With Respect And Dignity. Open Your Eyes Bob
I see a few of these videos with guys going to the Philippines, retirement, or whatever. It's not something I'm ever expecting to be able to do or have the freedom to do. Sure, maybe they're widowers, divorced, or whatever. But, what about their families? Kids? Grand kids? While there's many legitimate ways the situation can present itself. I think there's also a large dose of Peter Pan syndrome going on. Guys who want to feel young again or feel like they were plunged into adulthood too early and never experienced a vibrant dating life? But then there's guys like Bob! Self-involved and self-centered. If you're a "it's my way or the highway" type individual, then maybe the Philippines ain't the place for you. With Bob's attitude, we could probably safely assume how he ended up in a position to go to the Philippines. Unfortunately, maybe it's too late in life for him to learn anything from it. 😢
Bob F'd up big time, and happens to be in a country that won't tolerate it. Good for them. You're right, if Bob wanted out he should have left while she was going to pick up her daughter and told her he was moving back to Cebu and would pay the rent for the remainder of the lease. You don't tell a professional single mom to quit work, move into your house with her daughter, then literally put them out in the street when you get tired of them by locking them out of their home at 5pm when she's bringing her child home from school. I guess he thought he was being cute, or getting the last word in, showing her who was in charge. That's a terrible thing to do to a woman with a child that you've agreed to be responsible for. For her part, she should have never moved in without getting married if she was going to bring her child, but that's easy to say from the outside looking in. I look forward to seeing how this turns out. Warning to all of us - don't move someone in with you unless you're committed for the long-term and/or planning to get married. The Philippines isn't the U.S.
Bob deserves to pay a heavy price for putting a mom and her daughter into to such jeopardy; they trusted him and he violated that trust, no excuse for that.
Great topic Mike and expertly put too. Saad situation all round. Unfortunately having reacted in a,selfish way and considered his own situation and circumstances first rather than collectively. Although he might not like it, he really needed to think things through with his partner and her daughter. Making them so suddenly homeless was a cruel act despite his feelings and he should have and must have put their considerations before his own to make sure they were not negatively impacted. Sad all round in my opinion
I feel it is very easy to condemn him and based solely on what was said, I agree that his actions were wrong. However, anyone who has been through domestic violence, it is not always as black and white. We do not know if there was any violence on her part. The facts stated in this video read more like a victims complaint which as we know there are 3 sides to every story. His, hers, and the truth. Difficult situation for sure and hopefully they can work it out without the need for prison. Thank you for the video.
I hope the Philippine justice system is more fair rendering judgment than the "jurors" in this video's comment section. You all have condemned Bob with only hearing the prosecution's side of the story (yes, Mike is the prosecutor). In this video Prosecutor Mike clearly is on the side of the woman and her child, and has presented his case all neat and tidy and wrapped with a bow. The verdict he wants is Bob being found guilty of boorish behavior and for that he needs to go to prison. But think about what you guys are saying. These kinds of breakups occur in the U.S. thousands of times daily. Men come home to find their clothes and golf clubs tossed out the window and on to the front lawn for all the neighbors to see. Without notice locks are changed. A cheating wife comes home to find all her stuff in trash bags, and told in a note on the kitchen counter she has 2 hours to get out. In the U.S. the police don't get involved because there's no state has a law that governs the proper way to end a relationship (that's because there is no proper way, everyone is different. And also because the law of MYOB rules the land. Had this happened in the U.S. Bob would not have to suffer the holier-than-thou opinions of TH-camrs in here, those who think THEIR way of ending a relationship is the lawful way, and because Bob didn't do it YOUR WAY he deserves what he gets, which according to some comments means he should go to prison. That's pretty harsh for a foreigner not knowing that breaking up in the Philippines has to be handled differently than in the U.S. (I'm not too sure that's the way the law works, but I don't practice in the Philippines so I can't opine on it.) Personally, I don't think Bob will end up in prison, not if the Embassy has anything to say about it. If I were him I'd simply pack up and go back to the U.S. It is the Philippine's loss. Bob contributed a lot of money to the Philippine economy. He should take his wallet and voluntarily deport. Side note: The Philippine govt. should be concerned about these kinds of videos. Who knows how many men in the U.S. and other foreigners hear these kinds of stories and decide to look elsewhere for a place to retire. The Philippine retirement authority must get a kick out of the handful of expat channels warning men with $100,000 USD annual pensions to stay away from the Philippines, because if you do go there you are going to get framed, scammed, arrested, rendered penniless, and/or end up in prison. It worked for me. I'm no longer considering retirement to the Philippines. I'm taking my net $90,000 USD pension now looking at retiring to Portugal instead. Reason: because it is too risky moving to the Philippines. I have heeded the advice of the Philippines-located expats. There's no medical care, no support, and everyone is out to get you including the government, all Filipinas, and even the condo doorman. Bottom line: Seems there's a big "NOT WELCOME" doormat at Philippine airports. P.S. I don't know which is worse, retiring to the Philippines or Russia, and maybe even the DPRK.
A lot of you are blaming Bob, but who wants to live with someone that they're not getting along with. He is on the lease, what should he have done? Walk away from the lease?. Instead of admitting that the Philippines has some of the shitties laws on the planet you would rather blame the foreigner. Such hypocrites
Marcus u retard. He doesn't have to live with someone he doesn't get along with. He should just have thought about her situation also as he broke up with her. Given her at least a couple of weeks to sort out her living situation, find a new job etc. Otherwise ppl will hate you for being a dick as it sounds like you are. Don't have relationships if you can't handle them. Jerk off instead.
To me he sounded like he only had a change of heart. Didn't like anymore to stick to one woman. To have a child in the house. I think he missed his freedom that comes with a single life. I can only imagine the woman got angry because she's not a toy you can toss out after you are done playing with.
Bob is acting like a child in a foreign country. He needs to prepare carefully, how to come out of the relationship. This has to be done in the right respectful manner.
I do believe he did her wrong and we don’t need that type of people in the Philippines. He should’ve grabbed his crap and left. But if the man is smart, he should’ve hurried up the minute he got bail and booked his flight out of the country before the paperwork catches up and never come back.
My name is Bob, I am embnarrased that this scumbag has my name. What a freak. What he should have done is help her into another life, even if they can't get along.
He was wrong .that girl had left her job cause he said he would care her but because of his selfish ways she suffered and her child.you are right Mike he should have cared her and set her up also compensated her for the stress everything.his visa should be revoked he probably do the same to the next gurl.Godbless Philippines 💙♥️🇵🇭
I lean toward sympathy for her and the daughter, that was cold blooded what he did. Wish we had laws like that to protect women here in the states. We do have a law here that protects an occupant who is invited to live at the address and can not be evicted immediately. Some states have a 72hr and others a 30 day, but who could live where they are unwanted. Sad day for sad people.
Bob has absolutely no legal responsibility to this woman or her child. Yes, he should have been more considerate and moved out and let her retain the accomodation for 1-2 months and some money for true same period. However, his actions does not warrant any prosecution for he is not married to the woman and under no legal obligations for her welfare. What morally appropriate does not equate to legally appropriate; and men must understand the difference.
Rules are strict in that country No thanks Id rather date only No comimtment Ever!! unless you married her. get the hell out of the philippines. If he was smart he shouldve just left the condo and flew back to cebu airport and jumped on a plane to thailand and got the hell out of dodge but left her a few months rent on the table to get her and her daughter back to cebu.end of story.
It’s very hard to know what really is going on in this situation. We don’t have Bob to tell us his version and we don’t have Kelly to tell us her version.
Def a dirt bag move. Even if she was banging out another guy, she was still keeping Bob happy and doing her "job". If she was good to him like he even says, he def owes her her life back before dumping her, no matter what she says/does, short of abuse.
I'm going to be honest either you're a terrible storyteller or you are just reading these stories because you do not tell a story like you're actually telling it you're telling it like you're reading it. I for one do not believe this guy called you... I believe you read it somewhere.. but that's not the important part. The important part is Bob has a right to get rid of this woman.. who knows how crazy she was acting and he maybe had to go to this length to get rid of her
Considering that the woman quit her job, left her place of residence, and she and the daughter were put through emotional distress, a $10,000 compensation would be a reasonable amount to reimburse the woman.
Wow, Bob messed up big time! Wrong way to do that. Pay a months rent there for her and daughter so they have something. Now it will cost him much more $$$ and jail time possibly.
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What happened to Paul old dog new tricks is he okay I haven't heard anything on his channel for quite
He was wrong for moving her and her child to his place and then dumping her and putting her out in the streets literally. That's a horrible thing to do.
I agree with you
Not only that. It’s a crime. Child endangerment, destroying the woman’s employment situation, etc…
That's why a Pinoy lesves,( in such situation )and not kicking his partner out the resident.
I believe that is illegal in the USA as well. Once cohabitation is in one place for a certain period of time, there are " residency rights."
See an attorney !!
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One of the best things to do is, #1, don't become involved with a single Mom, #2, don't move your girlfriend in with you, #3, don't suggest your girlfriend to quit her job.
thanks for sharing some good points
And never, EVER, get married
Great in hindsight but men who come to PI for the women often think with the wrong head. You could give that advice to any guy in any country. Unfortunately we don’t have the inclination to delve deep into every law of the Phils BUT i have heard many vloggers warn about this and other important rules and attitudes of the people here that would affect visitors - spend more time checking out channels like Mike’s and less time checking out what’s below your belt. “Hell hath no fury” etc …………..
I had a gf in Philippines. Rented a nice condo after 1 year. We didn't fight but I knew she wasn't into me.
So I left. I knew she couldn't pay the rent. Better than kick them out,just leave it's easy. Whatever you do, do not piss them off. You can die.
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Exactly! Made a similar comment.
Bob should have gotten a lawyer before he ever thought about breaking up with her
no, he should have had a sit down meeting/arbitration with the barangay representative present. hash out a "severance package" of 10k to 30k php for her to be able to get back on her feet.
Davao is her home town, so its safe to say she has family there.
@@GizziiusaYou are so right! And during those negotiations she will think she is pregnant to better negotiate. Not against all girls, but the ones that know how to use the government against the guy.
@@IB4U2Cme Yeah sure, she can use that tactic.
1) the severance package still holds. b/c she can go back to work while preggo.
2) clocks a ticking, approx 9 months. if there is a legit baby and DNA says its yours...proceed cautiously, and prob with an atty in your corner.
3) cant make ppl stay together in a home that dont want to be...thats a recipe for disaster.
@@Gizziiusa - Yes and he can still negotiate with her for a money payout and the charges can be dropped.
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‘You can quit your job, I’ll take care of you”. I bet he regrets saying that.
Most do Mikeyyy L.
@@Mikeyyyy_L should have stuck with his right hand
He had a good thing going in Cebu but he screwed it up. Its not the girl's fault at all. If she still had a job and her daughter being taken care of by relatives then he could have said I have lost feelings but I am willing to give you 50000 peso's and we call it quits no hard feelings. It could have worked out in her favor.
Sounds like Bob got what he wanted then grew tired of it. He should have left instead of leaving her and her child destitute.
@@ed5308I understand that people are poor there but it's a low blow to make up false accusations to get easy money as well. I am not supporting this particular guy but the number of scams I have heard or read about really scares me from even talking to a Filipina because it sounds like they can make up any story they like and nobody will believe the foreigner no matter what. It's called corruption and even the so called law are in on it in some cases. In any other normal country you should be able to sit down and say this is not working out mutually and going separate ways is the obvious thing to do. In my country there wouldn't be a cash payment expected unless joint lease and that kind of thing needs to be settled and their share determined too. This man did do things the wrong way but months in jail or more is a bit over the top. A financial contribution at worst. This sort of thing will hurt Philippines more than it helps them. I have been twice but compared to Thailand tourism was weak there and I put that down to kidnappings, crime and now I think these kind of laws. If what we are told by the girls about Filipino men running away from getting gf pregnant is true then why arent they getting found and prosecuted? How many times is it found out the girl has several foreign bf and a local husband or bf as well. No wonder the country struggles with policy like this.
But still I am also against straight out dirt bags too so don't get me totally wrong here.
This is a MUST SEE video for every foreigner or person thinking of moving to the Philippines.
Thanks Randy
@randyhanson4973 Definitely should make everyone think twice about going to a foreign country.
@@jsully4064make that, going to a gyno centric country where women aren't held responsible for their actions.
@@ericjames7819 If you have the money, you should pay. You think they going to throw every guy who does this in the Philippines in jail who has no money? Its just not foreigners held responsible, wealthy Filipino families r 2
Exactly.
MILLIONS OF AMERICAN WOMEN DO THIS EXACT SAME ACT TO MEN IN AMERICA.
That's America not the Philippines
Yeah but that’s like saying millions of Cambodians do this to each other. Who cares, this isn’t about the U.S.
And here in Australia too!
It happens to foreigner a lot here too, after they buy a home in her name!
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He f'd around and found out. Imagine him thinking he was sooooo important that he could make a child homeless at 5pm at night, in a city they were strangers in. He's getting what he deserves. I don't know how angry she made him, but you could never convince me the child deserved this. Whatever the legal consequences are, we can be sure he'll be blacklisted and deported after his punishment.
Imagine her being so stupid as to quit her job, the thing that supports her child to follow a man
@@woobeforethesun or let’s imagine him figuring out he stepped in a world of hurt and wanted out. Imagine him realizing that he can’t support his wife’s entire family and if he tried he’d be on here begging for money eventually. Yeah let’s imagine this scenario first.
indeed he went about it wrong, but the narrator said they moved to "her home town", so its safe to say she has family there, yes ?
@@Gizziiusa You're correct, he did say home town. Did you also hear the bit where he said the police organised their accommodation in 'an emergency shelter'? To quote "where she ended up spending the night.". That doesn't sound like she was just able to go be with her family?
@@TandCinthePH It didn't sound like a world of hurt from Bob's own words. He just had a change of mind. Let's assume you were right though. How does this make it OK to throw out a 10 year old child onto the streets at 5pm at night, to the point they had to stay in an emergency shelter that night?.. You're actually OK with that? It says more about your own personality that you'd support him on this, sadly.
Bob is an absolutely horrible man. I can understand wanting to break up, but you have to be respectful about how you go about it. Throwing a woman and her daughter out on the street with nothing is a very insane thing to do.
Wasn't his wife and wasn't his daughter. I live in the USA and there is no such law as that here. You are also assuming that Kelly was the perfect partner and did nothing wrong.
@bobdobbins229 here in New York State, you have to give a person 30 days' notice.
@@bobdobbins229by the information given what he did wasn’t nice. As he knew jobs are scare and the country is very poor. So what he did was essentially a death sentence of sorts. Please don’t defend that kind of behavior
@@jimvan-m7y have you lost your mind. If you are rich and you want a young woman, you can find one anywhere.
@@bobdobbins229 In mid Mich, if U provide housing, unless there is violence it takes a good ninety days to evict someone in your own home.
Republic Act 9262 states Humilation is considered Violence, therefore he is guilty. Like it or not, personal relationships come with risks. Best course of action is to treat people with respect and tread lightly when breaking up. Even if the girlfriend was a jerk, it would be better to extract yourself from the situation and surrender the rental.
If men think the courts are stacked against men in the US they haven't seen anything like the PI.
So he has to leave HIS home to break up with a woman that's acting nuts. Ummm nope.
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@@geobarker totally agree.
Humiliation will also cover 'loss of face' in a public place. Picking up your possessions in a rubbish bag from the public reception desk will qualify 100%......it is about as low as you could go.
Loss of face is a serious issue over there, and surrounding countries.
The Judge and Bob will be having serious but interesting conversations in the near future.
After 18 months of living with my gf in PH, she suddenly demanded a baby, and now. We had been in a LDR for 8 years and I visited twice a year. From the beginning, I made clear that I would not have a child with her and that she should find another man if she wanted a child. She thought I would change my mind. After her demand, I immediately told her that I was moving out of the country. I also peeled off 25 100 USD bills put them in her hand and told her the fully equipped apt. was hers to do with as she wanted. I landed in Thailand exactly five days later. I guess I was lucky.
Thanks for sharing your story
No luck there. You didn't leave her on the streets with no resources and a 10 year old child. In fact, you were more than generous giving her the resources to put her life back together without you.
Bad part is, now she's figured out a way to get money from more foreigners. You probably weren't her first nor last.
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If you get Involved you risk getting setup, they can change their mind at any time, their Terms of Service will change at any moment, you will never know the consequences of a breakup till it happens, alot of things can and do go wrong, you wanna risk your Life then thats on you, dont be coming here crying about what happened to you when you knew better
Bob F UP by getting in a relationship with a single mother. He could have just stayed in the West and had a much larger selection of single mothers to choose from.
lamo
I agree. Keep the same energy
If you are attracted to faties sure.
no married women, no kids... EVER!
There's is NO larger selection of single mothers 😅😅
My frind had a relationship that fell apart. He said she had become unhinged, erratic and abusive verbally. He was worrying this could evan worse if he tried to send back to her province. So in his own words he took the cowardly way out. He told he had problems getting his money. Told here she could stay in the apartment till the rent was due next month but he had to leave and fly back home to get his money problems sorted out. Then he flew to another island and broke of all compunction with her.
Unfortunately, that sounds like the only safe way to break up.
@@marchoman1776 people don't understand, the Filipino is the bottom barel of Asian women to date .
The problem is these woman from Philippines will say , I will date a foreigner because Filipino are abusive and cheater.
But Filipina are exactly the same as they are of course a Filipino citizen.
I was in a same situation like your friend, and I managed it the same, just lie to her and vanish.
Filipino and Filipina are the same abusive verbally.
I hope the people will realise is not worth to date these creatures and leave Filipina alone, is not worth the hassle trust me.
Smart man.
Even that's more honorable than what this creep did.
That's not cowardly, that's self preservation. Good move
I didn't realize the Philippines was so much like the USA. Thank you for telling us.
Now you know. I don't think the US has even gone this far yet.
Catholic country. Corrupt and don’t care.
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Its much worse than USA
😒 go somewhere else, theres alot of countries that dont have that reetarded law, you dont want her around you have the right to dismiss her at will, usually the reason is because you found out she was cheating on you, dont matter if she has kids or no kids, you dont have to be a sucker or a cuck, have some Self Respect
Bob deserves what he got . He abandoned her and her daughter. He's a pos
Your Right Bobby
Filipino men abandon Filipinas and their children everyday but since Bob is a foreigner and not a filipino….he will be jailed and extorted
@@Imold774 but it's their country, this may be a shock to you but that's their right, we're guests here. Different rules, may not be fair, but that's the cost of being an alien.
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@@Imold774just because Filipinos do it don’t make it right for him to do it, he’s a pos😡🤬
Never ever date a single mother.
Mike, you also forgot that you can end up in jail for even less than that. For example, if your wife / girlfriend finds whatsapp conversations with you and a new girlfriend admitting infidelity, yes you will go to jail. She can press charges and accuse you of psychological trauma and distress and violence against women. What Bob did is extremely serious, but there are many different ways a man can end up in jail in the Philippines.
yes that is possible
No. infidelity, adultery should be caught in the act. Or it should be undoubtful proven or admitted.
@ElvisGarciaDeJesus-bl4cf That's actually what I thought this video was about. Would be good content to have discussed all the ways dumping your girlfriend could land you in jail
@@DennisSleeswijk No, true, with Whatsapp evidence is enough to bring charges againts you. I know this, i read it and my wife is from Cebu (now separated). Cellphone messages, pictures and voice mails are now enough to prove infidelity. You need to do a better research.
@@ElvisGarciaDeJesus-bl4cf You need lot less to bring charges. Just by hear-saying is enough to bring charges and it's up to you to proof your innocent. It is not enough to get convicted. And lawyers are pretty creative when such things that you mention is put on the table as evidence.
In fact, if some people don't like you they can already file charges which you have to respond to. And they can just choose to not proceed with there charges at any time. Very annoying but up to you if you want to counteract and press charges for slander. Just to give an example how weak you are as a foreigner and best to stay low key on a friendly base with anyone you encounter.
Foreigner who starts playing around, will risk be played with in return.
But as always, to be convicted, proof needs to be provided and accepted by the judge. And lawyers are creative to convince a judge why provided proof is not solid enough to consider conviction based on the proof given.
AT the very least this guy will most likely be black listed and deported. I do not feel sorry for those that treat people like that when they are a guest in a country. Foreigners need to educate themselves on the rules/laws while visiting.
😂😂😂Bro you mentally ill pal.
Being a guest in a country doesn't mean you can allow anyone to cut your throat.
These people use knives when they argue so hard, is a high chance hi felt in danger.
Is only one side of the story.
People don't understand alot , these creatures from Philippines their judgement is way more primitive than a western mindset.
People don't understand these people are still live in tribe and in a clan, their mind is not prepared for modern world.
@@ionutmititelu2083 I do not think I'm mentally ill but I would admit I'm mentally conditioned to deal with other people's and cultures of this world I did it for 22 years while serving in the military. This looking down on them like they are less a person than you because their not from the west is not respectful and is the kind of thinking that leads to problems while dealing with people in the Philippines.
Enough of the "guest in this country" crap. An old broken record. I'm not a tourist but a legal resident and put a lot of money into the economy. When it come to the law, people should be treated the same, equally no matter where they are from.
@@YouDcm Sounds like you do not view yourself as a guest. Unless you possess a Philippines issued passport or a foreign passport with duel citizenship then your out of luck on not being a guest in the country.
Oh you mean like the nasty illegal imgrants , ruining the usa. Typical of woke democrats, I can see if hit psychically touch her. So f her but thr child, that's BS. I'll never go to that country.
Yeah, but how many times is woman in the Philippines, convinced these guys to build a home, knowing that they’re going to leave him and all his money is tied up in the house and he’s kicked to the street. Where is the cops? Where is the justice system?
thanks for sharing
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Thx for the info. It was very interesting. It has just saved me a lot problems
Just be smart and stay out of trouble Barry
Consider it a lucky escape Barry
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Kelly is responsible as well. She chose to quit her job and move in with him.
We didn’t hear about her attitude. How did she treat him? Did she deserve to be put out?
With the child being involved, I would have done things differently.
How is humiliating someone violence against woman - dosent sound like he put his hands on her?
@@anthonyalves3993 You are NOT allowed to shame people in ANY way in Asian culture.
@@richardroy6179that's any breakup.
@@richardroy6179wow! Makes me not want to go back to the Philippines
@@richardroy6179 they have laws based on feelings hurt that's crazy
Not the kind of expat behavior we want here. Don't shack up unless you're committed to the relationship.
we agree on that point
Basically moving a woman in is equivalent to marrying her. Possibly even letting her stay over occasionally and keep things at his place. Men need to know this before deciding to move to the PI.
Yeah, and if it still doesn't work out, make sure to leave her better off than she was when u met her. You'll accumulate a rep, really bad one, deservedly so, if not.
@@uBenji1234 YES! So many guys mess this up...and suffer for it.
@@Rob-u3c Spot on 💯
Being an attorney in the Philippines is all about taking advantage of foreigners in every way possible to survive. It's a fact of life in the Philippines, and until the US government intervenes and begins to investigate these cases that local men are never subjected to, it will continue to happen.
hahaha your so clueless
@@mikesphilippineretirement Any idea how slimy lawyers are in America? And you think they're going to be better here?
U.S. government can’t do squat when it comes to intervening in how other countries operate their justice system 🤣🤣🤣 read your passport where it CLEARLY states: when you are in a foreign country do not violate their laws, the American embassy may not be able to help you. you have ZERO rights as an alien in a foreign country, if you don’t believe that just watch the documentary “locked up abroad “ plenty of horror stories to watch 😉😉
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😒 Exactly, you sound like your in the know, I have a lawyer down in Latin America and he keeps me out of trouble and hes got connections where we can grease some palms if we have to, im always asking him about Hypotheticals, the what if senarios, use some common fn sense and understand that any Local Law is going to be exaggerated to F over Foreigners, the interpretation is going to be more severe for you as a foreinger, whereas the local fups get off easily and cheap, Locals are looking for marks and suckers and shmucks and targets, of course they are going to play Victim when things dont go there way, use more common sense: whatever country you setup shop for Long term wether thats an extended tourist visa or residentce or citizenship you need to retain a Family Divorce Lawyers and a Real Estate Lawyer, become their best friend, pay the consultation fees and sit down with them and run some senario with him, make sure you have his card and number on you and make sure even knows that your Legaled Up. Also get some connections with the local police and people on the inside at the Court House. Just in case always have a bugout bag and your passport ready to go so u can leave the country, if you cant leave thru the airport then ask around and find a boat or something to get you out of the country by clandestine. And lastly DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH ANYONE, period, never, ever. Go Solo and Stay That Way. Dont be a little b looking for love.
There are two sides to every story. Does anyone honestly think a man should lose his life and liberty over this? If so, you’ve never spent time in a foreign prison. If the Philippines wants to boot him out of the country, fine. As to prison, absolutely not!
I think he should be financially responsible for them. And if he is unwilling to do that, then he should absolutely lose his liberty.
I think he should have to pay something to her for a certain period of time, maybe whatever money she would have earned in the amount of time between when she quit her job and when this happened plus expenses to move her and her child back to where they were. Then he should be deported and banned. No, I don't think prison.
It will settle on money... period.
@@dennisdragomir7572 always does when there's money to be had, they are expert at that
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threw mine out after 10 years. She got a new residence, I provided support for a while.. She was planning to have me killed for a will she had. It was no good. She also had a school f-buddy who was to off me. She was married but not to me.. The kid was in private school. I went to the barangy about this, and they tried to get me to let her back.. Her friends came in, and pressured me as well. The problem is the job loss for the girl, and the chld in school, and no money for their transition back... dumb! Even a PH judge would have ruled against her.
you did not throw her out you asked her to leave and supplied the cash needed
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Thanks for the advice and good information
Always welcome
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Sorry, but I have no respect for a guy who can throw a woman and her child out on the streets. He should've walked out and supported her and the child until she could get back on her feet. He asked her to quit her job and move, this makes them his responsibility.
thanks Joey for your comment
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Bad Bob. He screwed up royally. He needs to learn something..
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This is a must video for any foreigner. Please please please be careful.
thanks for sharing
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Why does a guy 63 want to date an old lady age 38 with a kid? Stupid on his part.
Mommy died so he needed a new Mommy.
@@LiarLiarBrainOnFire Alot of truth there
I guess he figured a 38 year old would be tighter than a woman his own age.
@@MrCallingoccupants The kid part kinda was my issue.
Mike indicated that the guy had not been here before. Sounds like he hooked up with this 38 yo gal thinking he was doing great by western standards. Then he moved to Davao where he observed lots of foreigners with hot 20 somethings and thought he could just upgrade. So he makes everyone miserable to force the issue and her out the door.
As everyone says, "their country, their rules." As we've seen before, you can even get charges against you making a scene and yelling at locals. 😉
I'm surprised Janet hasn't had you arrested yet.
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Bob's been arrested and is awaiting the court case. He got locked up the day after this incident.
LoL hahah
Don’t buy, rent. If you break up just leave. Find a new place. If she wants to stay after the lease, then she can pay the rent. Also if she is working then don’t have her quit her job to be with you.
I'll stay in high end Hotels with camera's and make friends with a high end Lawyer in Cebu and hire his buddy Off Duty Police Officers to drive me around Cebu ... so no worry about Gold Digger Filipinas' ever trying to Accuse me of Republic Act 9262 and extorting my wallet.
Thanks for sharing
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Can always find better way to break up that is not the right way what he do, but yeah, always show respect🙏🏾❤️
well said
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The link is not work
now it works👌🏽
*Bob is lucky !!! In the DR and Jamaica mothers will blackmail men saying daughter was molested, Bob could be in prison 20+ years*
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very good video, I guess similar law is in many other countries...
in different forms
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Bob was not a nice person. Very inhumane way to separate. He should try to make amends now so the court will see he is trying to "do the right thing". Things could be worse. She could've claimed that he beat her and/or the daughter. FYI, currently in the US, many states go a step further. Once you invite someone into your home, whether it be for an hour or 6 months, if they don't leave you can't just throw them out. You have to evict them. Had they been in the US, the police would've escorted her back into the home and possibly have asked Bob to leave. In the land of no divorce its always better to rent than to buy.
Condo rules: It's not her home unless she is on the lease
Really that is not true in the US
"Condo rules" do not override law or plain, simple, common human decency.
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I keep telling these Dumb Walking ATMs, "Don't Get Involved With These Women"
hmmmm
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In the US this is considered an unlawful eviction. The police will require that the woman and child are allowed to stay at the residence. The man can leave if he wants.
Wow! Very informative. Thanks for sharing!
welcome
It's all about taking as much of Bob's money as possible. Look around the Philippines, and the locals will never be charged with laws supporting filipinas. Bob has been taken advantage of in all ways possible because he has money to steal.
That is what you got out of this video
@@mikesphilippineretirement What he's saying is true Mike
Note the father does not support the daughter. That is humiliation, oh wait, that is expected.
The point is there is a double standard for bastard fathers versus foreigners
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Why didn’t they arrest the child’s father, didn’t he leave. Y’all sitting on here talking about Bob, when the only thing Bob did was leave his gf . The father of that child abandoned his child and gf. Y’all go over to the Philippines and accept anything. So, y’all suggest Bob stay in the relationship and be miserable.
Was thinking the same thing. I would never move a child into my house that wasn't mine. Mom gets mad then she says I touched her I go to jail.
@@GAMMASP8 The mother doesn't even have to say he did anything, if he is alone with the child he is automatically guilty. S##thole country.
@@GAMMASP8 "Mom's" do that all the time to men in the US with their OWN children during divorces and custody battles.
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they were not legally married, and kid was not his...how ridiculous
Tell me why you think that. Edward
So the inocent Child should suffer? Edward probably owes back child support...
@@richardroy6179that's the same rational used to justify men having to pay child support for a child that isn't theirs.
@@mikesphilippineretirementhe behaved immorally. But she knowingly put herself in a position where this could happen. The end result assumes a woman isn't capable of being responsible for her actions.
Only In the USa can you dump a woman
He deserved to be made an example out of.. there is no excuse to treat anyone like that.
thanks for sharing
Sounds like Bob’s a child was very little understanding of being an adult man.
he made a bad choice
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So SAD - no human being should ever do something like this to another person. Just imagine coming home with your daughter and this happened to you? Break-ups are never easy but this guys - WOW!
Yes disgusting
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Relationships that last for three hours (short time) are best.
Yes I heard you alway pay for it either up front or later on.
Rent ... never Buy!
"Love may come and go, but HIV is forever."
@@danp1043 You need to get some protection dan
@@KC-in9px I HAVE protection. I don't get involved with the City Pump.
Sad story. This is the treatment men have been getting for a very long time.
yes it is sad. How have men been getting this treatment?
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If men would collectively put their foot down and stop enabling women's poor behaviors then this would stop. Since we keep indulging them, they keep doing this.
I wonder what the argument was about, for him to react so strongly suddenly?
I think it was building up slowly
Excellent heads up
thank you
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never,never commit to a single mother
you think that was the lesson here? How about not being a jerk.
I have a single mom best choice I ever made
@@stephenr2195exactly
Can't just say avoid all single moms. I think it depends on the single mom , cultural upbringing, and other factors. But the way the guy treated the woman and daughter was wrong.
Spoken by an encel that is incapable of commitment.
I think it was Paul's Asian Adventure that did a video awhile back suggesting something similar to what Bob did.
It might be worthwhile to talk to a lawyer before breaking up with a woman you are living with to make sure you are handling it within the law of the PH. A $40 consultation (or however much a PH lawyer charges) could've saved him so much grief.
Treat all people with respect. There was no need to act an ass in that situation. I would have communicated my desires to end things, set her up with a nice lump of money, and made sure that she could support her child. There was no honor in the way that he moved. He has a right to change his mind, but he does not have a right to destroy the liberty of another person. He is in for a long ride. He should pay restitution to her and hope that the court finds it acceptable. I'd be terrified if I were him. This is a self-inflicted wound.
I agree
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That story is precisely why those laws exist. Thanks for the video mike. Please keep us posted on Bob's status
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Great information to some foreigner without knowing the law in the Philippines,.Good lesson for him.
yes when in the Philippines you need to be careful and respect People
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A country for old simps. Not Bob.
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He deserves what he is getting, getting a job in the. Philippines can be very hard, the Girl friend gave up her job, the little girl was in school. I believe that Bob is very cold hearted.
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As a British male I think bob behaved irresponsibly- took control of her life then locked her out . He should have paid the rent for her and given her some cash. We need to understand that laws and culture are different in Asia. I have no sympathy for him at all.
thanks for sharing
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In other words, in her eyes she was "married". In the Philippine, they don't really divorce. They just split up and the woman moves on to another "husband" or the man moves on to another "wife". If you're going to get serious with someone here, you better be absolutely sure it is what you want permanently.
so wrong my friend
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In the never-ending tropical heat, you don't really need a house.
🌞🌞⛱🏖🏖🏝🏝
so you would live in the streets?
@@mikesphilippineretirement i would build a hut on the beach and eat fish everyday
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Another reason Vietnam or Malaysia would be my home base when my SE Asian slow days are over. Men need to wake up and look at the short and long term consequences of having relationships in the Phillipines. Men get seduced coming to the Phillipines without looking at reality. Theres so much misinformation also that leads to misinformed decisions with outcomes like this. Relationships aren’t guaranteed. Having a contract with reality is essential.
ANY PLACE BUT NOT PHILIPPINES.
@@Jorg-po6oi I agree with you to a point but I would add that you should only consider moving to the Philippines if you have the capacity to think beyond the brain in your pants!! 🩲
How's Vietnam or Malaysia different? Don't they have similar traps?
Foremost people are not emotionally reactive. Guns are illegal in both countries. Those alone set the table for a very different dating climate. I have felt the most safe I’ve ever felt in Vietnam and Malaysia. I was in Vietnam for months and saw only a few police people. I felt the most peaceful ever the entire time I was in Vietnam. I didn’t feel someone was watching me all the time like it can feel in the Phillipines. Vietnamese women were at least as friendly as Filipinas. I found the kindest people in Vietnam. These were my experiences.
@@koufax174 Emotions aside, did you research legal situation? And thanks for your replies.
Bob is a sorry pos, that’s so wrong, she deserves better and he deserves to go to jail; if he wanted to break up that’s fine but that was a cowardly way to do it.
I wouldnt say cowerdly. Shtty, for sure though...........
Bob thought he was in charge. He's going to find out the hard way. Right now, I'll bet you any amount of Pesos. He's blaming everybody else and not taking any responsibility for his actions.
But when Filipino men abandon their families, nothing really happens. He definitely was singled out for being a foreigner.
@@TheSocioPat7786 - Cant squeeze blood from a turnip AND ist not your country/playground.
@@mistersniffer6838 you just said it yourself: had he been a Filipino, nothing would have happened. He should have been smarter about getting rid of her.
Bob encouraged her quit her job, he will be ordered to pay many months support, retraining etc. It has been on several blogs last few years. Judges ttough if the man encouraged her to quit her job, add method of the break-up, he in deep trouble.
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This is great information to know going forward in my future
learn from his mistake
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He is not in his country, he has to respect the laws in the country
yes we all do
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Bob, not cool, not fair to her, BUT HAVE YOUR ATTORNEY offer the judge a nice BIG gift (very common in the Philippines, $10k + ), and you'll go free, or a midnight boat ride to Indonesia from Mindanao on a merchant ship, they will give you asylum there. Should have done your homework.
You don't want to get on any boat in Mindanao with anyone you don't know really well.
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You can't even do that in the US. What made he think it's ok to do here? Have respect for the child at least.
Thanks for sharing your comment Matt
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Two sides to every coin. Where is the father to that daughter. She was single with child for a reason. If it was a toxic relationship he should have seen red flags and got out before displacing her and moving her in. I'm sure his other head clouded his judgement until it was too late. However, if she was a decent person then let justice prevail for her.
vague with the "move to Davao *her home town* " surely she has family there.
All he had to do was bring her to a lawyer, stacks some bills in front of her and say sign the agreement and it's yours.
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Mike I have a question. What will happen if Bob just pick up his stuff from condo and just left and moved to another place.Left condo for Kelly and her daughter.
Pay a few months rent leave a little money. I think it is a different story
@@mikesphilippineretirement Mike if Bob did what you suggest. Pay few months rent and pay some money to Kelly. You think He will be out of trouble. Or they can still charge him with whatever law is when you break up relationships.
I think he would be out of trouble
More great advice to live/stay alone single/legal when you spend Winters on Cebu Island and enjoy your Retirement with zero chances of ever going to Boy Friend Jail from Republic Act 9262 or having to financially support a Filipina's whole family. As you heard, in the Philippines it is always "One Side of the Story" that matters.
Thanks for sharing
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Forget free and nothing is cheap, especially women, anywhere, anytime.
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Not All Men Are Bad
Not All Philippina Women Are Bad
She Held A Job
Her Daughter Was Sorted.
Bob Took Them Out Of Their Comfort Zone.
Flashed About A Better Life .
Then He Choose To Just Cut Down The Tree 🌴.
No Matter How Different or Indifferent Philippinons are
They Deserve To Be Treated With Respect And Dignity.
Open Your Eyes Bob
I feel bad for Bob women woman, woman
thanks for sharing
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I see a few of these videos with guys going to the Philippines, retirement, or whatever.
It's not something I'm ever expecting to be able to do or have the freedom to do.
Sure, maybe they're widowers, divorced, or whatever. But, what about their families? Kids? Grand kids?
While there's many legitimate ways the situation can present itself. I think there's also a large dose of Peter Pan syndrome going on.
Guys who want to feel young again or feel like they were plunged into adulthood too early and never experienced a vibrant dating life?
But then there's guys like Bob! Self-involved and self-centered. If you're a "it's my way or the highway" type individual, then maybe the Philippines ain't the place for you.
With Bob's attitude, we could probably safely assume how he ended up in a position to go to the Philippines. Unfortunately, maybe it's too late in life for him to learn anything from it. 😢
Bob F'd up big time, and happens to be in a country that won't tolerate it. Good for them.
You're right, if Bob wanted out he should have left while she was going to pick up her daughter and told her he was moving back to Cebu and would pay the rent for the remainder of the lease.
You don't tell a professional single mom to quit work, move into your house with her daughter, then literally put them out in the street when you get tired of them by locking them out of their home at 5pm when she's bringing her child home from school. I guess he thought he was being cute, or getting the last word in, showing her who was in charge.
That's a terrible thing to do to a woman with a child that you've agreed to be responsible for.
For her part, she should have never moved in without getting married if she was going to bring her child, but that's easy to say from the outside looking in.
I look forward to seeing how this turns out.
Warning to all of us - don't move someone in with you unless you're committed for the long-term and/or planning to get married. The Philippines isn't the U.S.
Good insight Eric to a problem that he himself has to blame
Bob deserves to pay a heavy price for putting a mom and her daughter into to such jeopardy; they trusted him and he violated that trust, no excuse for that.
Didnt they move to Davao to be closer to HER family? Why cant she go back to her family?
Valuable lesson to take on board be very careful.best way is to get on a plane get back to your home country then break up
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2:50 this was her home town, yet she was sleeping in a homeless shelter?
yes
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If your mom taught you to treat a woman and a child that way, well she did not teach you right!
good point
If your Father actually.
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Great topic Mike and expertly put too. Saad situation all round. Unfortunately having reacted in a,selfish way and considered his own situation and circumstances first rather than collectively. Although he might not like it, he really needed to think things through with his partner and her daughter. Making them so suddenly homeless was a cruel act despite his feelings and he should have and must have put their considerations before his own to make sure they were not negatively impacted. Sad all round in my opinion
Thank you Richard you make some good points
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Excellent video Mike. Caveat Emptor, let the buyer beware.
Thank you
I feel it is very easy to condemn him and based solely on what was said, I agree that his actions were wrong. However, anyone who has been through domestic violence, it is not always as black and white. We do not know if there was any violence on her part. The facts stated in this video read more like a victims complaint which as we know there are 3 sides to every story. His, hers, and the truth. Difficult situation for sure and hopefully they can work it out without the need for prison. Thank you for the video.
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I hope the Philippine justice system is more fair rendering judgment than the "jurors" in this video's comment section. You all have condemned Bob with only hearing the prosecution's side of the story (yes, Mike is the prosecutor).
In this video Prosecutor Mike clearly is on the side of the woman and her child, and has presented his case all neat and tidy and wrapped with a bow. The verdict he wants is Bob being found guilty of boorish behavior and for that he needs to go to prison.
But think about what you guys are saying. These kinds of breakups occur in the U.S. thousands of times daily. Men come home to find their clothes and golf clubs tossed out the window and on to the front lawn for all the neighbors to see. Without notice locks are changed. A cheating wife comes home to find all her stuff in trash bags, and told in a note on the kitchen counter she has 2 hours to get out.
In the U.S. the police don't get involved because there's no state has a law that governs the proper way to end a relationship (that's because there is no proper way, everyone is different. And also because the law of MYOB rules the land.
Had this happened in the U.S. Bob would not have to suffer the holier-than-thou opinions of TH-camrs in here, those who think THEIR way of ending a relationship is the lawful way, and because Bob didn't do it YOUR WAY he deserves what he gets, which according to some comments means he should go to prison. That's pretty harsh for a foreigner not knowing that breaking up in the Philippines has to be handled differently than in the U.S. (I'm not too sure that's the way the law works, but I don't practice in the Philippines so I can't opine on it.)
Personally, I don't think Bob will end up in prison, not if the Embassy has anything to say about it. If I were him I'd simply pack up and go back to the U.S. It is the Philippine's loss. Bob contributed a lot of money to the Philippine economy. He should take his wallet and voluntarily deport.
Side note: The Philippine govt. should be concerned about these kinds of videos. Who knows how many men in the U.S. and other foreigners hear these kinds of stories and decide to look elsewhere for a place to retire.
The Philippine retirement authority must get a kick out of the handful of expat channels warning men with $100,000 USD annual pensions to stay away from the Philippines, because if you do go there you are going to get framed, scammed, arrested, rendered penniless, and/or end up in prison.
It worked for me. I'm no longer considering retirement to the Philippines. I'm taking my net $90,000 USD pension now looking at retiring to Portugal instead. Reason: because it is too risky moving to the Philippines. I have heeded the advice of the Philippines-located expats. There's no medical care, no support, and everyone is out to get you including the government, all Filipinas, and even the condo doorman. Bottom line: Seems there's a big "NOT WELCOME" doormat at Philippine airports.
P.S. I don't know which is worse, retiring to the Philippines or Russia, and maybe even the DPRK.
we will see
being an ex-pat in the Philippines means you’re constantly walking on eggshells.😆😆😆
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A lot of you are blaming Bob, but who wants to live with someone that they're not getting along with. He is on the lease, what should he have done? Walk away from the lease?.
Instead of admitting that the Philippines has some of the shitties laws on the planet you would rather blame the foreigner. Such hypocrites
Marcus u retard. He doesn't have to live with someone he doesn't get along with. He should just have thought about her situation also as he broke up with her. Given her at least a couple of weeks to sort out her living situation, find a new job etc. Otherwise ppl will hate you for being a dick as it sounds like you are.
Don't have relationships if you can't handle them. Jerk off instead.
Agree
pay the rent and school to end of term... Pay her way back.
To me he sounded like he only had a change of heart. Didn't like anymore to stick to one woman. To have a child in the house. I think he missed his freedom that comes with a single life.
I can only imagine the woman got angry because she's not a toy you can toss out after you are done playing with.
Well said
Thanks for the information
My pleasure
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Bob is acting like a child in a foreign country. He needs to prepare carefully, how to come out of the relationship. This has to be done in the right respectful manner.
True he made some bad choices
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I do believe he did her wrong and we don’t need that type of people in the Philippines. He should’ve grabbed his crap and left. But if the man is smart, he should’ve hurried up the minute he got bail and booked his flight out of the country before the paperwork catches up and never come back.
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My name is Bob, I am embnarrased that this scumbag has my name. What a freak. What he should have done is help her into another life, even if they can't get along.
yes not you Bob Different Bob
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guys jump in relationships to fast
he was here over a year b4 he ask her to move in
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Most men are more scared of being alone than leaving a toxic relationship.
He was wrong .that girl had left her job cause he said he would care her but because of his selfish ways she suffered and her child.you are right Mike he should have cared her and set her up also compensated her for the stress everything.his visa should be revoked he probably do the same to the next gurl.Godbless Philippines 💙♥️🇵🇭
I lean toward sympathy for her and the daughter, that was cold blooded what he did. Wish we had laws like that to protect women here in the states. We do have a law here that protects an occupant who is invited to live at the address and can not be evicted immediately. Some states have a 72hr and others a 30 day, but who could live where they are unwanted. Sad day for sad people.
Thanks for sharing
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Bob has absolutely no legal responsibility to this woman or her child. Yes, he should have been more considerate and moved out and let her retain the accomodation for 1-2 months and some money for true same period. However, his actions does not warrant any prosecution for he is not married to the woman and under no legal obligations for her welfare. What morally appropriate does not equate to legally appropriate; and men must understand the difference.
he does have a legal responsibility
Don't ever move outside the country you live in. You won't like reality.
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Great story... BOB needs to swallow his pride ... beg forgiveness of Kelly and dump some Pesos into her Gcash account and have her call off the dogs.
that could work
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why you dont move there and live with your gf let her stay in her own place so you can do as you please and only date only no comitment ever.
Rules are strict in that country No thanks Id rather date only No comimtment Ever!! unless you married her.
get the hell out of the philippines. If he was smart he shouldve just left the condo and flew back to cebu airport and jumped on a plane to thailand and got the hell out of dodge but left her a few months rent on the table to get her and her daughter back to cebu.end of story.
Exactly! Stay single, live alone and act like a man when ever you date a girl in your hotel with lots of cameras to cover your behind!
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A 63 year old man should know which living arrangements he is willing to have. Bob didn't know himself, or the culture.
true
It’s very hard to know what really is going on in this situation. We don’t have Bob to tell us his version and we don’t have Kelly to tell us her version.
I got all the info from Bob
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Def a dirt bag move. Even if she was banging out another guy, she was still keeping Bob happy and doing her "job". If she was good to him like he even says, he def owes her her life back before dumping her, no matter what she says/does, short of abuse.
Thanks for the comment I agree with you
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That is why I and my cats will never move in with a man that is not my husband
I'm going to be honest either you're a terrible storyteller or you are just reading these stories because you do not tell a story like you're actually telling it you're telling it like you're reading it. I for one do not believe this guy called you... I believe you read it somewhere.. but that's not the important part. The important part is Bob has a right to get rid of this woman.. who knows how crazy she was acting and he maybe had to go to this length to get rid of her
Right on! So many holes in this story that's very slanted one-way. I wouldn't be surprised if all the information came from Kelly
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Considering that the woman quit her job, left her place of residence, and she and the daughter were put through emotional distress, a $10,000 compensation would be a reasonable amount to reimburse the woman.
Thanks for sharing Mike.
you're welcome
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Wow, Bob messed up big time! Wrong way to do that. Pay a months rent there for her and daughter so they have something. Now it will cost him much more $$$ and jail time possibly.
The same thing could have happened even if he got her another place.