$50,000 Sailboats PT2! Catalina, Beneteau, Pilot House, Lady K Sailing Ep 190
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This week we finish off our look at $50,000 sailboat with Catalina, Pilot House boats, and Beneteau sailboats.
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I like the fact that this channel doesn't use annoying background music and lengthy intro. get's right to the point and presentation is calming, entertaining and educational. great job.
@@brownnoise357 I will check it out,thanks!
Dude... You've really hit your stride with this series. Nailing it... Looking forward to seeing the other price points.
My grandfather won the mac 1917, we still have the Cup and flag. He had 2 boats, the intruder and the shamrock. He was a member of the Jackson Park Yacht Club. He used to sail it to the Newport Jazz Festival every year. He loved sailing with his brothers.
That's so sweet!
JPYC!
Hats off to you for this series. It is perfect for new as well as experienced sailers. Keep up the great work👏👏🍻
Thanks Tim. I hope we get to see the 60.000 thousand dollar bouts. Good series.
I enjoy this because it talks about what you should get for your money and what you can expect instead of what you need and don't have.
Big difference between a fresh water boat and a salty. I live in Toronto.
Boats here spend 7 months on the hard and no salt. So a 30 year old Ontario boat vs Florida boat? My father-in-law bought an Ericson in 1979 from Gordon Lightfoot. Lightfoot ordered it semi custom, after his $$ made from his hit record Sundown. He named the boat Sundown, and we kept the name. His sister handled the sale, because he wanted to ensure that the new owners would maintain and appreciate the boat. We left every C&C in our wake. Spent many summers on it.
Memories of Georgian Bay.
C&C you want to race lol
I have watched 4 videos from your channel. Nice. Straight to the point. No fluff. No time wasted. And i so agree with every point you made O could finish your own sentences! Nice work. I’m totally sold 😂
Thank you for featuring this Catalina at the end of your video. I know the broker, Captain Mike O’Conner of Mariner’s Yacht and Ship Brokerage which the boat is listed under in Dana Point Harbor, California.
My wife and I purchased a 1995 Catalina 320 through him three and a half years ago. We paid a little over $40k for her, named her Monarch, and since then have added another thirty thousand in repairs and upgrades. We love our sweet 320 and spend time on her almost every weekend.
It would be awesome if you would do a video on the Catalina 320. It is such a unique and special boat. Aft Cabin. Spacious main salon. Nice VBerth. Galley, enclosed head…and she is fast. She is our starter boat, and is amazing for entertaining, daysails, and weekend trips to Catalina Island itself, just forty miles off the coast from our Dana Point, where we have her slipped up!
In the 60’s decks were plywood cored, so that’s a concern with any boat from the 60’s and also with any teak decked boat. The teak requires a lot of fasteners, creating an opportunity for leaks.
I think you should emphasize that you’ve actually got to get on these boats to appreciate them. I looked online for a year before i went to actually see one. I loved almost every boat i saw, but condition was always an issue. Then i got on a Nauticat 44 and immediately fell in love with it. It was twice the price as most of the stuff i was looking at, but it also felt like twice the boat. I thought i was headed for a Beneteau First or 45 until i saw it. Big, slow and ugly, but it’s the boat for me and for where i hope to sail it. I feel like i’m going to be a snail who carries his house on his back.
OMG. I want a pilot house motor sailer badly. An affordable one just slipped away from me. How do you like yours? Is it worth getting one from the 70s for budget vs a newer boat of the same price due to the extra room in the pilot house? Is it better to travel abroad to get one? I greatly appreciate your time if you have time to respond. If not I understand. Happy sailing. 😀
@@r.williamcomm7693 Thanks for commenting on my post. Any chance to talk about boats… There’s a few big topics.
Overseas purchase: I didn’t even consider buying one overseas as I think I would have needed 4-6 months or so to bring it back. I can’t walk away from my job for that long. I wouldn’t just jump on the thing and set sail, I’d want to spend at least a month getting to know it, and likely need a couple more months to address whatever deficiencies I found. And you’ve got to deal with the local customs and government regulations… Ideally one month to cross the ocean, but perhaps you don’t start on the French coast and end on the US’s east coast… but the Euro is down right now, so this is a good chance to save at least 20% over what you would have spent a year ago.
Pilot houses: I can only speak to the Nauticat 44 pilot house. I traded off a lot of performance over say a Beneteau First, but I got a much more comfortable boat, with a huge aft cabin and of course the pilot house. The pilot house breaks the “in a cave” feel that you have from almost all sailboats. Not only can you see 360 degrees, but the sliding side doors of the Nauticats allows a wonderful breeze to pass through the cabin. It’s the next best thing to being outside, but you’re inside. Two air conditioners, heaters and a 8 kW generator means we’ll be as comfortable as we want to be for all the diesel we want pay for. We’ve only had it a few months, but when we take it out we see all of the 37’-40’ boats getting lifted and slammed back down in 3-4’ waves, whereas with our full keel and 35000 pounds, we’re barely feeling any of them. This boat is about comfort, but we gave up quite a bit of performance that I'm reminded of as those racer/cruiser’s pass us by… but we're older and so the comfort was a huge issue.
Age: Ours is a 1985, so it’s 37 years old. I’d say it’s been well kept, but it wasn’t babied. I’m finding lots of things that need to be addressed or fixed. This takes time, effort and money, but one big plus about this is that you learn about the boat. I’d much rather learn about all of the boat’s systems at the marina than 500 miles off shore. I know Tim like to quote “Go small, go simple, go now.” I think that, unless you can’t get a decent paying job, you’re going to almost always be better off going on a tight budget, saving your money and spending more on a boat than fixing up one yourself. Sinking your body into a hull, at a painful angle, on a feaking hot day is miserable. Ideally find someone who’s already sunk a bunch of money into the boat (over the original purchase price) and is going to get 50 cents back on the dollar. However, restoring a boat can be a “spiritual” journey that for some is worth taking. Bottom line about age is that good fiberglass hulls can essentially last forever, and absolute worse case is that you strip it down to the fiberglass and put another layer of fiberglass on it. (Balsa and foam cored boats need to be carefully inspected. All Nauticat boats made after some date in the 70’s were made with solid glass hulls and solid glass decks.) Also, the size of the boat isn’t as big of a concern as you may think. Look at the channels “Sailing Wave Rover” and “Sven Yrvind” to see some great alternative small boats, but they’re one man boats…
So many boats to look at in this price range, you've barely scratched the surface. Our friends just sold their 1984 Sabre 38 for $45K this past spring. Very pretty, very solid, very good sailing boat. You would be able to find some Tartan 37's from the 80's as well. And while you talk about C & C's quite a bit, I don't think you've ever profiled the best one I think they ever made, the C & C 41 (not the 40) from the mid-80's. Those are showing up in the low $50K range now. The problem with these 35 year old boats is it's really hard to find a clean one. They have usually had 2-3 owners and each successive one treats the boat with a little less care. I would be pretty hesitant about buying a 35 year old boat that spend its life in salt water. It would have to be a fresh water boat at that age.
this series just keeps getting better tnx again
I bought a 1987 Catalina 36 for 48k from a guy who was as “ocd” as the Catalina owner at the end of your video. One of the Best decision Ms I’ve ever made.
Thanks for all you do!
Tony & Susan here, We would go look and for sure buy if it was here in Michigan. Really Great Catalina
The Cal 2-46 Galley up is THE best long range live aboard cruiser or circumnavigator there is when you plug in cost or bang for the buck. I owned and cruised mine for 8 year. How many boats carry 270 gallons of diesel!! Have nearly 3:1 reduction gear swinging a 26” 3 blade of the feathering prop of your choice. With the fixed 3 blade I could still sail 200 mile days! And she could motor into a near gale, straight into it. How many boats have 17 feet of galley space! A diesel generator, a 20 gph water maker. All of the tankage down low. NO tanks or batteries in any of your locker or under your births. 2 hanging lockers big enough to get into and close the door. Oh did I mention a full standing headroom engine ROOM. ALL the equipment of the boat is in the engine room. The one with a workbench a vice, a drill press. You get the picture. Motors super well sail very well. The only some what of a weak point is that with 5 foot draft that enables her to get into shallow areas, does have some leeway when beating hard. And that has not stopped nor effected the MANY circumnavigations that they have done. Yeah, you guessed it, I loved this boat. By far the best of 5 serious cruising boats that I have full time cruised. An OK one might be found for 50K or so. A really really nice one around a hundredish K. Also very well behaved at sea.
The side profile of the Bristol 39 made me think of a fast passage 39.......I'm going to have to go look now and make sure I'm not totally high lol
I'm loving this series. I sail on Lake Ontario (new sailor) but I do dream of a nice big boat to sail in the Caribbean. I'm encouraged to see options in the 50k to 60k range that look awesome. I thought it would cost me 250k!
Another great informative video!!
I'm on the west coast and in love with the Catalina!!!
Great video! Bristol has always been a favorite of mine with their centerboard. More to take care of, but best of both worlds. In my opinion. Thank you
I’d love a cottage on deck, cozy cruising in the sheltered shade and a panoramic bunk site to observe the starry night sky……….
I think the Catalina 38 was an S&S designed hull. Done some time on one
I love this series you are doing and really hope you continue up in price points! Would love to see how you analyze build quality, designers vs builders, gadget options etc up into the 100-150K+ range! Thank you so much for what you do and sharing your knowledge.
Love this series. I am the guy from the West Coast with the recently purchased Hughes 38. Have been in Petrolia for the last 3 months looking for work but am heading back home to my baby next week. Sorry I didn't get to hook up and buy you a beer
I was just looking at that Gulfstar Sailmaster you showed at the beginning....that thing is loaded. I love the Sailmaster....for a 6'3" guy like myself, that headroom would be critical. That one in particular seems like it's ready to cross an ocean.
Thank you for these great videos! Can we keep this up all the way through $100k??
The Catalina 38 hull is a development/evolution of the S&S designed “Lightin” a one tonner raced in period by Ted Turner. I raced on a 38 on Grand Lake in the mid to late 1980s.
great series! I would love to see you do a video on the Slocum 37 sometime. Love those boats, as well as the Hans Christian 33. keep the awesome videos coming. Cheers!
This is close to the price of the Hallberg-Rassy 352 we purchased at the beginning of the pandemic. Great boats, although they are harder to find in the US.
That bristol was 57 yrs old 45 g's YIKES!
Great content--thanks!
you might also look at old models catamaran around $.50,000
Hey Tim, good video. It was the Port Huron Mac last weekend. Chicago is next weekend.
I like your style of presentation. Im hoping to bag a small cruiser this fall or winter and start exploring the west coast down to LaPaz, Bajaja!
Ive had experience racing J35s and Tartan 10 back in Chicago, but time to "go long" and get my dose of brine, 😃or fuggedaboudit.
Good stuff
Appreciated
As a new buyer, so many to choose from. What I have noticed though is the age of these super nice boats. Maybe we need a series on 2000 boats and newer along with price and capabilities like you have been doing. Instead of price, use year as your selling point.
Great video
Ever notice how much a Whitby 42 and a Hughes 40 ketch (80/20 Northstar) look alike? Even the interior looks similar, just on opposite sides..
Yes shout out to the Port Huron/Chicago to Mackinac racers! I would buy a Bristol 35.5 or Cape Dory 36 with $50k.
That Catalina!!
Always comes back to Catalina. Ok i get you ill get a Catalina lol.
You forgot the Lake Ontario 300 was this past weekend
You do good work…can’t wait to see you back on the water…preferably in the Bahamas…
My last comment was I thought you were missing the Elan 431 from the 90's and Grand Soleil 42 which would both be superior in quality and travel of most of the "production boats." Southerlys in the 30's exist in this price range as well as the infamous West Sail 42. I'd kill for a West Sail 42
I learned to sail on a 84 first 32 I sail sail a sabar 34 now but hopefully in 10 years I'm goin for a first 42 for bluewater
do a video on the MacGregor 65 probably the coolest looking production boat ever!
First video of yours I've watched. Enjoyed. For my next boat (1st was Ericson 32) will be center cockpit, 40+ft, davits, engine "room", room for potential water maker etc. CSY 44 is another good candidate but they can go for a pretty penny. The big thing is though I think I want steel. Definitely pros and cons but the idea of steel, for me, is very desirable. Interesting to know your thoughts on that.
Edit. Just looking at your video list and see you have a video on steel boats. Will watch now.
.. Cheers to you. ..
I love your channel! I am curious, will you tackle new boat purchase at one point?
I'm expecting a Pt 3 for this one... :)
Need a $100k video.
Maybe add in a Catamaran series for us weirdos. ;p
I have come across your videos recently and I must say they are great! You have convinced me to actually start looking for my first sailboat! I have always loved sailing so now I am going to take the next step. Where are you located by the way?
Great channel, thank you! Have you done a review on Beneteau Evasion 34? I would love to hear your opinion...
This side of the pond but these two Young people managed to
Land themselves this really nice Colvic ketch for £38,000 like the layout...theres a later vid about what they paid..a couple of postings later.
I'm watching your channel regularly for some time, now redoing the older vids.
My question is about insurance. Is there difficulty insuring boats of these ages?
Yeah I look at those cal boats they're all about 120 140,000
Thank you for your detailed vudeos! Do you have any about Amel sailboats? Thank you!
Yessss
I'm looking at Freedom's in roughly this price range. Would love to hear your thoughts on them.
Hey buddy love the videos great work. I am a newbie sailor. Go and pick up my boat next week and it is a 1978 Pearson 28. I am so pumped and ready to take on this new Journey. Any tips that you could give me being a new Sailor. Thanks a bunch
Sometimes hard to find insurance for older boats
I think that Catalina is sold
Just curious if you don't mind. I'm thinking about taking some continuing ed classes and which do you think would be more useful in world cruising, outboard service and repair or HVAC.
I called on that Cal 40 she was under contact.
Spencer , kanook built
Fiat is the go fast version of a Ferrari? I think you have that one backwards? Ha. Cool video though, I enjoy your stuff man. Keep on keeping on.
I knowwww haha I heard it while I was editing and was like ohhhh noooooo!!! Lol too late to fix it
Awesome episode Tim,I was thinking about you watching all these gorgeous sailboats pulling into Mackinac island harbor .Got my 100 ton cap.license working on ferry line.Get Lady K up here we could kick butt with that old girl.
Again, its CDO when the letters are in order!
How about "Best aluminium cruiser for under 100K"?
wow didn't expert to see our family boat 7:02 but to inform you a first 44.7 and equipped is not a 50k boat.
I just bought a young 35 can you do an episode on young sun?
Freedom 40 CC?
Um Tim, that thumbnail is a $900,000+ Shannon.
I'm a new subscriber and I want to buy my first sailboat but I'm nervous about getting ripped off. Do you have any videos on things to look for regarding people hiding damages or big problems with the vessels? Thanks
Please please please - get a survey
I think it’s impossible to check everything on a boat before you buy it. A surveyer will keep you from making a huge mistake, but depending in the boat, you will be finding issues with it for as long as you own it. Whats your price point and expected use? I just bought a Nauticat 44 for over $160k for (eventfully) full time cruising. I didnt get a “great deal” but i got what i wanted.
Thanks guys! I will definitely get a survey!
I’ll sell u mine
@@joeldelamirande5792 where are you and what do you have?
To 100 please
Sorry 46 Cal