Please keep these videos going regularly … they are superb in high lighting what value can be had at the different price points…for someone wanting to buy his own yacht they are invaluable… i will definitely contact you for one on one when am ready. Thanks
The Morgan 45-4 Ocean Racing/Cruising option has a Center Board (CB) the draft can be adjusted from 4.9 feet to 7.42 feet. J-Boat 46 foot yacht uses the Architectual design and mold from the Morgan 45-4.
we own a '97 hunter 430 and love this boat. it's everything mentioned in the video. It feels bigger than it is. And for island hopping, it draws only 4'11". Lots of room for 2 couples. The arch is very strong and a traveler goes nicely on top of it. Everyone loves the interior layout, and the cockpit is party sized.
Good video. Really nice boats. To get to where my boat is berthed (until mid-week...), I walk 320 meters (1/5th mile) of old boats. Very long u shaped dock) So more than a mile (seriously!) of old teak in desperate need of repair and refinishing. Two boats: one with a lot of teak the other none topside to me is a huge difference in value. And that Pullman berth? Berths you don't have to crawl into are really a huge plus. I'm still agile, and I loved the 50' cat I recently sailed on and I didn't at all mind crawling into bed. Still, entering from the side is so much easier. Your partner and friends who aren't sailors (yet) will really appreciate it. Also, are there areas you can get away from each other? That's not a make-up table in the aft cabin, that's a private work area. And based on going from complete noob to boat owner: Everyone should do at least some used boat shopping. The older the boat generally the better the interior woodwork and hardware. I sailed three days on a ~2020 40' Jeanneau - beautiful boat but cheap catches and Ikea woodwork, a fairly new Fontaine Pajot? ALL plastic catches, that break easily. (Had to swap one out.) I've just bought a 2003 Hunter, metal hardware, real wood woodwork - but no wood topside (thank goodness.) The surveyor also pointed out that it, and the hulk next to her, would both last forever. No wood core, good fiberglass - just change out everything else. I don't think this has been factored into boat prices yet. Anything from the 90s on may be nearly as permanent as a house. But I began this paragraph admitting my noobness. (TH-cam video idea: Someone haul a hull out of a junk yard, or a hulk rotting in a slip. Strip it down, and replace everything. Maybe get people who build new boats do it quickly and efficiently. ) There are two paths to Ikea: first, making it cheap, but second, keeping the weight down also leads to Ikea: lightweight rigid foam panels with veneer. That's a performance cat. Want to sail light and fast or cart around furniture? Beautifully detailed fiddles, table tops, a panel here and there; real wood details keep it from looking like a mobile home kitchen. You only need one great piece of furniture to make a room, or a saloon. Having just bought a boat in this market: I needed to have looked at a thousand listings, been on a dozen boats, newer ones and really old ones, and be willing and able to exceed my budget. All this made it possible to jump on the best possible boat when she appeared. (Minutes to 'What will close this deal?" Bargaining? I said, "Okay. I want your boat." He got offered another $5k before I was a mile away. ) And shop outside the neighborhood. I live in Southern California; I wasn't looking at boats near San Francisco. Duh! on me. That will now be my first sail (with a captain). Of course Californians should look at boats in Puget Sound, but maybe not the other way around. It's a lot easier sailing south than north on Pacific coast. So can you sail the boat from where you buy it to where you're going to keep her? That expands your options
The area behind the companionway on the Morgan is a bridge deck. It’s used to keep water out of the boat so the companionway is on the highest part of the deck.
The Morgans companion way is a pretty standard ocean going sail boats companion way. Seen those in plenty of Swans. Its just for in case of a wave washing over the cockpit from behind the water will not go into the companion way.
My 1st home was $90k in 1991. 😆 Boat prices have dropped the last few months. Should be a good time to buy. That Pearson is a great boat! My parents had one in the 80’s. A 50’ sailboat is a lot to sail if you are shorthanded. 50’ power is doable with 2 people. I keep looking at the Sunfast 3300. 😇 I race on a jeanneau 41. Nice boat. In good wind we win a lot.
Out of all of them the Farr designed Bene 44 would be my pick , V good sailing , stronger then the newer ones & roomy to boot , good in the light & great to windward in a blow .
There is a big selection at this price. This is a fantastic series you came up with. Hat’s off to you 👏 looking forward to 100K. Will you continue going higher in prices? 🇨🇦🍻
Great video man! Lol that P30 you took a ride on looked like a double ender from the viewing Angie.... Time to buy some glasses for me getting old sucks!
Haha thanks. Yeah she's just a regular aft cockpit sloop. We make her absolutely sing when we race her. Practice tonight on the Olsen 30 for the big race coming up :)
Sellers can ask whatever they want for their boat, but it doesn't mean they'll get it. It would be interesting to know the spread between asking and selling price for boats in these videos, and how long they remain on the market before selling.
ever try to tack a hans christian WITHOUT needing to start the engine? in SF, they're known as "crab crushers" because they end up on a lee shore crushing the crabs. same with westsnails... no thanks.
@@LadyKSailing had a fleet race of 14 Hans Christian 33s & 38s on SF Bay. Everyone had to have someone at forepeak to pull genoa clew around babystay or staysail. Only one boat could do all the tacking WITHOUT starting engine. so fleet gave them the "win"-- though they came in 4th corrected. We did it twice when there was a wind lull during tack.
In one of your (?) prior videos there was a floatplane delivering provisions. This was not the topic of the video, but it was mentioned briefly. Would you, or any of your subscribers, please post the name(s) of any that you know of in the Bahamas? Just curious here.
The buyers problem is always want vs real needs. Considering that liveabord cruisers don’t sail 90% of the time, similar to charters, comfort should probably trump over performance. That being said, boat age makes a big difference. My current 1963 30’ boat has considerably less space than my previous 1976 30’ boat. And a mid ‘90s boat is going to be the most spacious for the same length.
When buying a boat that is older than 15 years you should probably expect to put in another $30-50k in additional necessary upgrades (things like sails, new standing rigging, new electronics, etc.). For what it’s worth, Jeanneau and Beneteau (and Hanse, Dufour, etc.) are fine mass production boats for many purposes but high quality is not their defining characteristic… I probably wouldn’t buy one that is more than 15 years old, period (even more so if has been chartered).
You are so right. At 15, most boats are old and at 20, most definitely. The good thing is they can be made almost as good as new again and maybe even better. A sailor needs to love working on her boat as much or more than sailing it.
Heading your way… leaving September 11 from Chicago heading to Florida. I’m taking a Tartan 4100 out the Saint Laurence Seaway… should be an interesting sail… Would be interested in constructive comments… Liam
Every Lagoon 450 I've heard of has broken bulkheads. I've seen the Parlay Revival and David Shih videos on fixing them. Until properly repaired I think these boats have a true value of $0. Fixed -- properly fixed, (not that company bandaid nonsense): $400k. Still, I wouldn't want to take on that project. I've done epoxy and glass and grinding. Even with all the safety gear it gets into your body.
With this level of budget, to get into the 50 foot range you are either looking at 40 year old plus boats or those that were once in charter fleets. In either case, the $90K purchase budget becomes deceptive because you are likely looking at large refit projects.
Good point. That's a huge factor. Not to boast, but I was ready to buy a $125,000 boat, when a $170,000 boat became available. Sitting on the more expensive boat - now mine, I found the ToDo and Wish list I made for the other boat: (for Christmas - folding wheel), water maker, Dry Bilge pump, fuel filters, Heat Pump, does it have enough tankage? canvas, larger alternator, replace the battery bank, etc... All of it and more already on the boat I bought, plus a Hydrovane, forward looking sonar, fully functioning electronics, TVs, sound system, life raft (out of date, but still). Zero repairs and refits before sailing. I'm a DIY guy, but I'm in my 60s. "I can fix it' energy drains away after you've replaced your 4th water heater. I did all the survey recommendations: I replaced the EPIRB and flares. When I get her to her new home berth I'm going to look into a cellular booster antenna. That's it. Then I'm just going to sail her as much and as often as I can. The cheaper boat? Good boat; needed a few repairs. The one I got? it can sail to Hawaii tomorrow. (She's been to New Zealand.) The difference in price is much more than $45k. First, there's a few hundred hours of my time, second all the times I wouldn't be sailing. Third, the stress. I got the less expensive, better boat. What I learned building wooden kayaks. Do I want to make furniture or go paddling?
This price range may be way more than what most viewers of this channel are willing to shell out. At this price range, one could definitely get a broker to find the best suitable boat for the mission. Not sure about the west coast, but with marina slip prices between $11 and $16 a foot or more in the US east coast, one has to be a liveable to swing it, otherwise the owner could then afford the boat and crew.
Another GREAT video. You've struck a niche audience that wants to explore what they can afford in a price range with sensible insight. Keep up the good work. I suppose that as we start going down the path of larger vessels, it's more about day dreaming like little kids than what is practical. After you "finish" with size & price I would like to see purpose driven categories....say just cruising to the Caribbean or specific blue water to ocean cross the south pacific.
At this price point, someone should be able to pick up a really good 35 footer. But yeah...I could have a Denali instead. LOL BTW In our club racing this weekend I finished 1 second behind third place. That's the first time I didn't finish two hours behind dead last. So, I think my sailing is improving.
What is the problem with a Hunter that prohibits crossing an ocean with it. Or a Janneau or Benneteau for that matter. People have crossed oceans with 'production boats'.
That's a B&R rig you're taking about and yes, that one does have it. No back stay. I've sailed one a few times and honestly, it doesn't matter as much as you might think at first.
Thank you Tim for these videos... absolutely love them. We are a family of four planning on a circumnavigation starting from Malaysia and sailing west across the trades. The boats we have in our part of the world SE Asia include a 1995 Hunter 430, a 1988 Moody 376, a 1981 Nordic 44, a 1988 Tayana 42 and a 1988 Hans Christian 38. Price range 70-90 K USD. How would you rank them?
Iv read in other blogs that to buy. anything before 2005 is false economy. The money you save you spend on maintenance and updating,such as all your electrical gear(sat nav etc) . Once the boat is sea worthy it costs 10% of the value of the boat a to run and maintain each year.👍
You should also note that the Hunter 430 is a long , long way from the ocean!! Almost in Oklahoma! Would it be possible for you to do a comprehensive vlog about electronics? Who and what Is good, and who and what isn't? I know this can be quite a subjective subject, but I know that you could treat this subject fairly.
Nicely done once again. That Hunter 430 isn't too far from me but unfortunately she is sitting in a freshwater lake in North Texas, so there is a lot she will need other than just transportation.
This seems like the max budget for a hobbyist sailor to me. Can get something nice, fast, well maintained that you're not gonna mind scratching up a bit racing and weekending with the family. Anything more seems unnecessary to me unless you plan on living on the boat full time.
How about $80 to $90k in a smaller package? For example, If I could afford it, I would love to have a Hake Seaward RK32. Old ones sell in the 80k to 100k range. But if in good condition, with a lifting keel and tabernacle fold down mast, might be the perfect boat to sail the "great loop". Also there are many older but sound 32 - 35 foot boats in this price range, such as an older Island Packet 32 or 35. Boats are getting too big for my old bones (70 years old). My boat is a pocket cruiser, with all the amenities of a big boat but in a small manageable package. s/v Starcatcher a 1998 Catalina 28mii tall rig.
Encouraging to know what you can buy in this price range. I am planning on buying something in the 100k range when returning to the states next year. I am looking for something with 2 cabins for my wife and daughter to travel in around the Philippines and S.E. Asia. I don't need a lot of room for entertainment but I enjoy something that doesn't make me feel cramped as we will be gone a couple of months at a time. I really will be looking for something that can be sailed single handed. I live with the Bohol sea out my front door so I will probably be out sailing by myself or with one of the kids 3 or 4 days a week. Must be built like a tank and have good electronics.
There seems to be a lot of good used boats for sale in Asia and the South Pacific at prices much lower than in the U.S. (btw I'm just talking, I'm a noob who's owned a boat for a week. This is just from looking at all the listings.) What I was told about Florida and Caribbean boats is mold, mildew, and thrashed used charter boats (also hurricane damage). I think the Asian/S. Pacific market maybe remoteness, difficulty getting spare parts and yards (of course not everywhere), and maybe mold/mildew. I don't know. If I lived where you live I'd find local boat owners who know. It would be really wonderful to get a terrific deal in Fiji and then sail to someplace amazing -- like the Philippines.
Ah-hah! The *real* talent behind Lady K Sailing has returned!! I think I'd rather stick with the $40K and have $40-50K left for upgrades and cost of ownership.
@@SteelDoesMyWill not just the boat needing upgrades, there is personal gear, safety equipment, taxes, slip, etc. in addition to all the other stuff any and all boats will require that one does not anticipate. You're not going to buy a 90K boat and have 0 additional expenses
@@mikeh720 oh thanks for filling me in... I mean, I'm not a professional in the industry or anything. BTW, when you need work on that $40K boat let me know, you'll need a lot!
Please keep these videos going regularly … they are superb in high lighting what value can be had at the different price points…for someone wanting to buy his own yacht they are invaluable… i will definitely contact you for one on one when am ready. Thanks
Love that endeavor.
That bathtub is to trick those unsure wives! Well played endeavor!
Thanks yet again!
Nice to see Cali and her fun intro again!
The Morgan 45-4 Ocean Racing/Cruising option has a Center Board (CB) the draft can be adjusted from 4.9 feet to 7.42 feet. J-Boat 46 foot yacht uses the Architectual design and mold from the Morgan 45-4.
your videos are never too long. always enjoy listening to your opinions on boats.
Excellent reviews. Expertly presented. Thank you.
Have to say. Your daughter is a tribute to you as a father.
Kudos to you.
Omg on the Jeanneau I was pushing the button to see the next picture.
Hahahaha
"Glass thicker than a milk shake", never heard it put like that before
my friend has a bath tub fills it on cold rainy days .He catches rain water and uses a heat exchanger
"Dad, how much is $90,000" "It USED to be enough for...." those statements are both the best, and worst parts of this video.....
we own a '97 hunter 430 and love this boat. it's everything mentioned in the video. It feels bigger than it is. And for island hopping, it draws only 4'11". Lots of room for 2 couples. The arch is very strong and a traveler goes nicely on top of it. Everyone loves the interior layout, and the cockpit is party sized.
Keep up the great job. It is obvious that you do your research before making a video and I for one, appreciate your efforts.
Really enjoying this series
Great info thanks
Dammit! third
Good video. Really nice boats. To get to where my boat is berthed (until mid-week...), I walk 320 meters (1/5th mile) of old boats. Very long u shaped dock) So more than a mile (seriously!) of old teak in desperate need of repair and refinishing. Two boats: one with a lot of teak the other none topside to me is a huge difference in value. And that Pullman berth? Berths you don't have to crawl into are really a huge plus. I'm still agile, and I loved the 50' cat I recently sailed on and I didn't at all mind crawling into bed. Still, entering from the side is so much easier. Your partner and friends who aren't sailors (yet) will really appreciate it. Also, are there areas you can get away from each other? That's not a make-up table in the aft cabin, that's a private work area.
And based on going from complete noob to boat owner: Everyone should do at least some used boat shopping. The older the boat generally the better the interior woodwork and hardware. I sailed three days on a ~2020 40' Jeanneau - beautiful boat but cheap catches and Ikea woodwork, a fairly new Fontaine Pajot? ALL plastic catches, that break easily. (Had to swap one out.) I've just bought a 2003 Hunter, metal hardware, real wood woodwork - but no wood topside (thank goodness.) The surveyor also pointed out that it, and the hulk next to her, would both last forever. No wood core, good fiberglass - just change out everything else. I don't think this has been factored into boat prices yet. Anything from the 90s on may be nearly as permanent as a house. But I began this paragraph admitting my noobness. (TH-cam video idea: Someone haul a hull out of a junk yard, or a hulk rotting in a slip. Strip it down, and replace everything. Maybe get people who build new boats do it quickly and efficiently. )
There are two paths to Ikea: first, making it cheap, but second, keeping the weight down also leads to Ikea: lightweight rigid foam panels with veneer. That's a performance cat. Want to sail light and fast or cart around furniture? Beautifully detailed fiddles, table tops, a panel here and there; real wood details keep it from looking like a mobile home kitchen. You only need one great piece of furniture to make a room, or a saloon.
Having just bought a boat in this market: I needed to have looked at a thousand listings, been on a dozen boats, newer ones and really old ones, and be willing and able to exceed my budget. All this made it possible to jump on the best possible boat when she appeared. (Minutes to 'What will close this deal?" Bargaining? I said, "Okay. I want your boat." He got offered another $5k before I was a mile away. ) And shop outside the neighborhood. I live in Southern California; I wasn't looking at boats near San Francisco. Duh! on me. That will now be my first sail (with a captain). Of course Californians should look at boats in Puget Sound, but maybe not the other way around. It's a lot easier sailing south than north on Pacific coast. So can you sail the boat from where you buy it to where you're going to keep her? That expands your options
I fell in love with the Endeavor.
The area behind the companionway on the Morgan is a bridge deck. It’s used to keep water out of the boat so the companionway is on the highest part of the deck.
The Morgans companion way is a pretty standard ocean going sail boats companion way. Seen those in plenty of Swans. Its just for in case of a wave washing over the cockpit from behind the water will not go into the companion way.
My 1st home was $90k in 1991. 😆
Boat prices have dropped the last few months. Should be a good time to buy.
That Pearson is a great boat! My parents had one in the 80’s.
A 50’ sailboat is a lot to sail if you are shorthanded. 50’ power is doable with 2 people.
I keep looking at the Sunfast 3300. 😇
I race on a jeanneau 41. Nice boat. In good wind we win a lot.
.. Cheers to you. ..
Lady K you’re making me want more & more!! Thank you!
Someone's a chip of the old block :)
Out of all of them the Farr designed Bene 44 would be my pick , V good sailing , stronger then the newer ones & roomy to boot , good in the light & great to windward in a blow .
First off, What a sweetheart! Great episode!
There is a big selection at this price. This is a fantastic series you came up with. Hat’s off to you 👏 looking forward to 100K. Will you continue going higher in prices? 🇨🇦🍻
At least do $1,000,000 just for fun. Maybe compare an Oyster to a $200,000 boat that's got almost all the same features and hull length.
Great video man! Lol that P30 you took a ride on looked like a double ender from the viewing Angie.... Time to buy some glasses for me getting old sucks!
Haha thanks. Yeah she's just a regular aft cockpit sloop. We make her absolutely sing when we race her. Practice tonight on the Olsen 30 for the big race coming up :)
I’m a big fan of the older endeavors.
Love the content.
That Hunter 430 was located on Lake Texoma about 1.5 hour drive north of Dallas. Pretty massive for a lake boat in my opinion!
Yes, as I noted, a long way from the ocean.
Sellers can ask whatever they want for their boat, but it doesn't mean they'll get it. It would be interesting to know the spread between asking and selling price for boats in these videos, and how long they remain on the market before selling.
Then I'd be a yacht broker for sure 😂 honestly considering it
great content, great channel sir
thank you!!!
Great points on these boats. Excited to see the upcoming $100,000 boats.
ever try to tack a hans christian WITHOUT needing to start the engine? in SF, they're known as "crab crushers" because they end up on a lee shore crushing the crabs. same with westsnails... no thanks.
Hahahahah nice. No but I've racked an Alberg 30 in 5kn of wind. It's a chore hahah
@@LadyKSailing had a fleet race of 14 Hans Christian 33s & 38s on SF Bay. Everyone had to have someone at forepeak to pull genoa clew around babystay or staysail. Only one boat could do all the tacking WITHOUT starting engine. so fleet gave them the "win"-- though they came in 4th corrected. We did it twice when there was a wind lull during tack.
In one of your (?) prior videos there was a floatplane delivering provisions. This was not the topic of the video, but it was mentioned briefly. Would you, or any of your subscribers, please post the name(s) of any that you know of in the Bahamas? Just curious here.
The buyers problem is always want vs real needs. Considering that liveabord cruisers don’t sail 90% of the time, similar to charters, comfort should probably trump over performance.
That being said, boat age makes a big difference. My current 1963 30’ boat has considerably less space than my previous 1976 30’ boat. And a mid ‘90s boat is going to be the most spacious for the same length.
When buying a boat that is older than 15 years you should probably expect to put in another $30-50k in additional necessary upgrades (things like sails, new standing rigging, new electronics, etc.).
For what it’s worth, Jeanneau and Beneteau (and Hanse, Dufour, etc.) are fine mass production boats for many purposes but high quality is not their defining characteristic… I probably wouldn’t buy one that is more than 15 years old, period (even more so if has been chartered).
You are so right. At 15, most boats are old and at 20, most definitely. The good thing is they can be made almost as good as new again and maybe even better. A sailor needs to love working on her boat as much or more than sailing it.
Heading your way… leaving September 11 from Chicago heading to Florida. I’m taking a Tartan 4100 out the Saint Laurence Seaway… should be an interesting sail…
Would be interested in constructive comments…
Liam
Oooooo nice. You may be past me by now.
Would love to hear about Bruce roberts from you
I would be a little leary about a Lagoon Cat and have an uber inspection done. I have read they have had some structural issues in the past
and get a good grinder :-)
Every Lagoon 450 I've heard of has broken bulkheads. I've seen the Parlay Revival and David Shih videos on fixing them. Until properly repaired I think these boats have a true value of $0. Fixed -- properly fixed, (not that company bandaid nonsense): $400k. Still, I wouldn't want to take on that project. I've done epoxy and glass and grinding. Even with all the safety gear it gets into your body.
It’s amazing how your style and mannerisms manifest so clearly in your daughters speech.
Thank you for the effort in these videos!
Thank you!
Agree completely by buddy just bought a 50ft boat and I'm just thinking WHY?
I'm not sure he can get home into lake Champlain.
Do you know how easy/difficult is for a foreing to buy a sailboat in USA?
Can’t wait until you reach the yachts that cost $1,000,000 yachts.
With this level of budget, to get into the 50 foot range you are either looking at 40 year old plus boats or those that were once in charter fleets. In either case, the $90K purchase budget becomes deceptive because you are likely looking at large refit projects.
Good point. That's a huge factor. Not to boast, but I was ready to buy a $125,000 boat, when a $170,000 boat became available. Sitting on the more expensive boat - now mine, I found the ToDo and Wish list I made for the other boat: (for Christmas - folding wheel), water maker, Dry Bilge pump, fuel filters, Heat Pump, does it have enough tankage? canvas, larger alternator, replace the battery bank, etc... All of it and more already on the boat I bought, plus a Hydrovane, forward looking sonar, fully functioning electronics, TVs, sound system, life raft (out of date, but still). Zero repairs and refits before sailing. I'm a DIY guy, but I'm in my 60s. "I can fix it' energy drains away after you've replaced your 4th water heater. I did all the survey recommendations: I replaced the EPIRB and flares. When I get her to her new home berth I'm going to look into a cellular booster antenna. That's it. Then I'm just going to sail her as much and as often as I can.
The cheaper boat? Good boat; needed a few repairs. The one I got? it can sail to Hawaii tomorrow. (She's been to New Zealand.) The difference in price is much more than $45k. First, there's a few hundred hours of my time, second all the times I wouldn't be sailing. Third, the stress. I got the less expensive, better boat. What I learned building wooden kayaks. Do I want to make furniture or go paddling?
This price range may be way more than what most viewers of this channel are willing to shell out. At this price range, one could definitely get a broker to find the best suitable boat for the mission. Not sure about the west coast, but with marina slip prices between $11 and $16 a foot or more in the US east coast, one has to be a liveable to swing it, otherwise the owner could then afford the boat and crew.
Any info or opinions on a 1990 Canadian Sailcraft CS40 tall rig
Oooo love a CS. Been on many up here. Heavy thick girls at that size. Hard to find and they hold good value around here. Love them!
Another GREAT video. You've struck a niche audience that wants to explore what they can afford in a price range with sensible insight. Keep up the good work. I suppose that as we start going down the path of larger vessels, it's more about day dreaming like little kids than what is practical. After you "finish" with size & price I would like to see purpose driven categories....say just cruising to the Caribbean or specific blue water to ocean cross the south pacific.
That's a great idea! Thank you
How much would you expect to pay for a 1990 Endeavour 52 ?
Oh boy. Hard question. Based on condition and ringing and sails and engine. Wow. Easily over 100k.
@@LadyKSailing we are currently doing a large refit on a 1990 Endeavour 52. Hard to find much information on them. They don't seem to be very common.
At this price point, someone should be able to pick up a really good 35 footer. But yeah...I could have a Denali instead. LOL BTW In our club racing this weekend I finished 1 second behind third place. That's the first time I didn't finish two hours behind dead last. So, I think my sailing is improving.
Ooooo yesssss 👏 👏 congrats!
What is the problem with a Hunter that prohibits crossing an ocean with it. Or a Janneau or Benneteau for that matter. People have crossed oceans with 'production boats'.
Those Hunters would be nice. Did they have swept shrouds? Or is there a legit backstay......its the only Hunter pill I can't swallow!
That's a B&R rig you're taking about and yes, that one does have it. No back stay. I've sailed one a few times and honestly, it doesn't matter as much as you might think at first.
@@LadyKSailing - A side note you start to see the bluewater Pacific Seacraft 37's at the 90k point price.
Dad.... how much is ninety thousand dollars???? Well, you could raise a family of four and have a vacation. Now you just get a pack of bubble gum....
Glad to hear you went to help out in a purchase of a 26 hunter .. I picked one up in March for $12 g's
Second!
I don't know call me old-fashioned I'll just take a good old Tartan 40
Excellent, looking forward for little bigger budget boats for live aboard. 🤗
Thank you Tim for these videos... absolutely love them. We are a family of four planning on a circumnavigation starting from Malaysia and sailing west across the trades. The boats we have in our part of the world SE Asia include a 1995 Hunter 430, a 1988 Moody 376, a 1981 Nordic 44, a 1988 Tayana 42 and a 1988 Hans Christian 38. Price range 70-90 K USD. How would you rank them?
Iv read in other blogs that to buy. anything before 2005 is false economy.
The money you save you spend on maintenance and updating,such as
all your electrical gear(sat nav etc) .
Once the boat is sea worthy it costs 10% of the value of the boat a to run and maintain each year.👍
Thank you John..👍
Your channel is a go-to for anyone looking at boats. Your mindset is prime!
Is she your daughter with Candice?
No. Cali is my daughter from the first chapter of my adult life. I was with her Mom for 13 years from our teens.
Ketch?
Sandwich.
You should also note that the Hunter 430 is a long , long way from the ocean!! Almost in Oklahoma! Would it be possible for you to do a comprehensive vlog about electronics? Who and what Is good, and who and what isn't? I know this can be quite a subjective subject, but I know that you could treat this subject fairly.
Cute kid
Nicely done once again. That Hunter 430 isn't too far from me but unfortunately she is sitting in a freshwater lake in North Texas, so there is a lot she will need other than just transportation.
FIRST
please no more those canoe nuisances
Card alpha flight potato 🥔
This seems like the max budget for a hobbyist sailor to me. Can get something nice, fast, well maintained that you're not gonna mind scratching up a bit racing and weekending with the family. Anything more seems unnecessary to me unless you plan on living on the boat full time.
Delos the way it used to be. Yes!
How about $80 to $90k in a smaller package? For example, If I could afford it, I would love to have a Hake Seaward RK32. Old ones sell in the 80k to 100k range. But if in good condition, with a lifting keel and tabernacle fold down mast, might be the perfect boat to sail the "great loop". Also there are many older but sound 32 - 35 foot boats in this price range, such as an older Island Packet 32 or 35. Boats are getting too big for my old bones (70 years old). My boat is a pocket cruiser, with all the amenities of a big boat but in a small manageable package. s/v Starcatcher a 1998 Catalina 28mii tall rig.
Encouraging to know what you can buy in this price range. I am planning on buying something in the 100k range when returning to the states next year. I am looking for something with 2 cabins for my wife and daughter to travel in around the Philippines and S.E. Asia. I don't need a lot of room for entertainment but I enjoy something that doesn't make me feel cramped as we will be gone a couple of months at a time. I really will be looking for something that can be sailed single handed. I live with the Bohol sea out my front door so I will probably be out sailing by myself or with one of the kids 3 or 4 days a week. Must be built like a tank and have good electronics.
There seems to be a lot of good used boats for sale in Asia and the South Pacific at prices much lower than in the U.S. (btw I'm just talking, I'm a noob who's owned a boat for a week. This is just from looking at all the listings.) What I was told about Florida and Caribbean boats is mold, mildew, and thrashed used charter boats (also hurricane damage). I think the Asian/S. Pacific market maybe remoteness, difficulty getting spare parts and yards (of course not everywhere), and maybe mold/mildew. I don't know. If I lived where you live I'd find local boat owners who know. It would be really wonderful to get a terrific deal in Fiji and then sail to someplace amazing -- like the Philippines.
Ah-hah! The *real* talent behind Lady K Sailing has returned!! I think I'd rather stick with the $40K and have $40-50K left for upgrades and cost of ownership.
If you add the 50K budget for upgrades to your 40K purchase budget you'll get a boat that doesn't need 50K worth of upgrades.
@@SteelDoesMyWill not just the boat needing upgrades, there is personal gear, safety equipment, taxes, slip, etc. in addition to all the other stuff any and all boats will require that one does not anticipate. You're not going to buy a 90K boat and have 0 additional expenses
@@mikeh720 oh thanks for filling me in... I mean, I'm not a professional in the industry or anything. BTW, when you need work on that $40K boat let me know, you'll need a lot!
I would never buy a Hunter
Perfect 👏
Compaired to Australia your (US) boats are cheap (er).