Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You have an art to also explain and teach in such detail, in a manner that can be understood by the average Joe with little to no experience. Thank you again!
Kevin you are my go to Harley engine builder. When I do all of the things I've learned from you I will absolutely buy parts from you! And everyone else should too. No free rides in life guys!
Topic Suggestion - A general guide on how a DIY guy should approach upgrades to their Twin Cam bike. What is the best, most reasonable category, hierarchy of components to upgrade .... First, Second, Third, etc.? And of course the reasoning behind choices.
Being an auto mechanic for 33 years, I understand a lot of what your saying. My 99 rk sat for about 2 years before I bought in Aug. 20. He never been in the engine so I see i have a lot of inspection to so. It has about 47k on it and I put about 1600 miles on since Aug. Thanks for the videos. I will be in touch when ordering parts.
Just installed S&S cam plate and TC3 oil pump as part of the VH 575 cam install in my 2015 FLSTF, very good quality components from S&S and definitely should be a part of any engine build
Kevin is a very knowledgeable tec speaks extremely well and clear. I have learned more from watching just a few of his videos than I have working next to buddies who I considered top of the game. No offense buddies. Anyway just wanted to put it out there this guy is super at what he does and I'm going to order all my parts throu you Kevin. Keep it real like you do bro and big thanks for all you do.
Great upgrades Thay are coming up with , you cover all things well I think so do what you know. Thanks for showing telling keep it up cause I am learning,see ya on the next video see ya bye.
Installed the S&S cam plate and oil pump with S&S 551 cams along with S&S precision lifters and quick push rods. Used these videos as my go to guide on any questions with the install. I now have 8k on the motor after the build runs strong. Love the S&S parts very high quality. I will definitely buy my parts from Baxters when time comes for my next project. I’d love to see a video on porting heads.
Just installed S&S plate and pump into my 19 FatBoy along with a 475 cam and S&S lifters and cuffs,also replaced the cam bearing in the case with the help of a Jims tool. The whole job took me about 3 hours, taking my time and triple checking my work as it's my first time working on a M8.
Hey Kevin I'm going to order that s&s cam plate/oil pump from you in the near future. as a matter of fact it's the exact same one you're using in your video (2000 RG) I also appreciate all your labor in making these videos, I see you're in the shop by yourself a lot. Thanks for the great uploads
Stumbled across your channel Kevin and thoroughly enjoyed it thank you so much for spending time and preparation showing us what's right and what's wrong on the Harley engines
Kevin, I stopped out last week to meet you and I’ve been watching your videos and you are definitely an engineer like myself. You do an excellent job in your videos getting the information across. I also want to say your charity work is awesome. I will definitely be coming to for service on mine and my wife’s motorcycles. It was a pleasure meeting you. I really enjoy your videos. You do an excellent job.
Thank you! You are a great man, I’ve called you few months ago and you spoke to me and guide me to choose my chain driven cams instead of gear cams cause my runout was more than required. Thank you sir. I will have you build me Mototrsonwheels this year.
Awesome Vid', Kevin. Thanks , I will pass this one on to my HD friends, One rides a CVO Limited. Not sure of the year though. ( I'm a Yamaha rider..... lol). Anyway, aside from that, the tech name for those pumps is a Gerotor pump, a contraction of "generated rotor". (That primary pump you mentioned would be referred to as a "charge pump" in heavy industry.... keeps the big main pump's suction port at positive suction head, 5 psi., when supply and return volumes vary due to loading, etc., during operation. It's built into the main pump. Any leakage oil from the pump into the pump-casing goes back via case-drain to tank, (sump in your case). Sunstrand Sauer, Eaton Char-Lynn, etc., use the same configuration on a lot of their big hydraulic pumps). I'm thinking HD is doing the same when I see that dual- pump configuration you showed us ?? Yes ???? Stay Safe and ride on. W
I really enjoyed the Road Star... I had an "05." It made the V&H pipes talk! But, the nasty oile bank said I had to give it back, cause I couldn't make the payments...
Again a very helpful video. In it you caused me to develop a question based on a problem I have been fighting all summer. In the winter of 2021/2022 I pulled my primary off and replaced all of the seals and bearing along with the seals to the transmission on the primary side. They were leaking a little bit after 72,000 miles on my 2005 FLHRCI Road King Classic. While I was at it I did a check on my flywheel run out at both ends which both were at .002" or lower. So since I have HQ-0034-G cams (I talked with you about & purchased them in 2007 at Head Quarters from you) I purchased a S&S camplate & pump (before knowing about your videos & shop) & installed it. Well once I was able to ride it started to leak oil & have traced it to my oil pan gasket. I am on my 5th metal coated gasket (4 Cometic 1 Harley) now with an intake & engine case to oil filler breathers installed. I first torqued in the manual sequence & 108 in-lbs specs on the 1st one. The next one I increased to 120 in-lbs, I even used Permatex gasket sealer on two installs. I am now at 168 in-lbs & got there on the last gasket by doing it in stages from 96, 108, 120, 132, 144, 156 & then 168 in-lbs. This has reduced the leaking but it still is leaking. I have checked the surface for flatness on the case & pan along with replacing the old pan with a newer one that does not have the stupid plastic baffle & springs with the new style that has actual cast in baffles & riveted tray top. Do you think it is possible that the S&S pump & camplate are providing to much oil pressure & causing the oil to be pushed out of the gasket?
Great source of information and knowledge as well as honest evaluation of our favorite motorcycle brand, Harley Davidson. Thank you Kevin and keep up the good work
Some awesome info... thank you :) From Australia and working with someone locally but wanted to make sure I had some good knowledge going into my next upgrades. This video has helped a LOT!
@@KevinBaxter Working with Adam from Brown Industries just near Newcastle. He has done other mods for me and is local which is nice. You may have already done this but interested to hear your experience with upgrading 114" to 128" as this is what I'm looking at doing. Not sure if should go an S&S or there is a builder north called Alpha Performance Engines which does a 128 which has some good local reviews.
Thanks for this great video,greetings from Dublin Ireland,my biggest hassles with my 103 fat boy 2015 Was greeting the dealer to align the rear axle ! A nightmare every time they took off the rear wheel ,rubbing noises from the belt drive after driving a few miles ,I ended up have to buy the jack,belt tension tool and doing it myself ,all the best Jim
As always, great information! Now I have to upgrade my NEW (2019) M8! As soon as I get the money, you will get it!!! I just wish you would relax a little. ALWAYS EXCITED! You are very enthused about this subject and it shows. Its always great to see your videos and I always learn more from you then just about anyone else. Keep up the good work.
So glad I stumbled on your site Kevin. I subbed and like a bunch of your stuff. I keep things I like forever. I bought my 78.5 Shovel new in November of 78. Still have it. I started doing mostly my own work back in 79 when the HD dealer did the first 500 mile check and tried to screw me. I had been warned they would charge for fluid changes they did not do. I put clear nail polish on some screws etc. and proved that to be true. Today I mostly ride my 2006 FLHTCI 88 that my wife "allowed" for my 50th. Both are keepers! The twin cam was delivered in October of 05. I was interested in one of your vids you recommended the 06 and some other specific years to answer a question from a viewer. She has 30,000 this month. Regular oil changes at 2500. Full synth always. I had the cam tensioners checked at about 27,000. They were ok then. Im planning to replace them now. Maybe over the winter, if not sooner... as Ive become paranoid they will come apart. Ive been studying every vid I can find for a week now and yours have been the best. So Ive been looking at the kits from Feuling and S&S as well as considering Screaming Eagle parts. Seems like this vid convinced me on the S&S. But looks like considerably more money. Heres what I have. Stock motor. HD Heavy Breather and Samson 39" Long Tail slipons with the stock header pipes. No Oxy sensors. I used a Dyno Jet Power Commander to adjust to the new components rather than paying HD big bucks to flash the stock module. I intend to go with new cams and S&S adjustable push rods to avoid all the tank removal and rocker box disassembly. Im old but I ride hard. I live in Jersey so highway blasts are suicidal ... garbage trucks are going 80 with crap flying out... I dont beat my machines but I wind things up towards redline if I need to go. High speed for sustained periods is not out of the question and passing on 2 lane road is done... with authority. Jersey drivers like to go slow when your behind them but then race you to 90 when you try and pass. Im 64 but after 30 years in the trucking business I still ride my FL like a kid on a crotch rocket. My question is can you provide a package from S&S with cams and all that you would recommend to give just a bit more uumph without sacrificing reliability. using the pipes and air cleaner I have? I dont have access to a dyno but I believe I can still go online and get maps frome Dyno Jet that should get me close. If after its all one I need a dyno run to get it right Im sure someone is close enough that I can trust. Also do you think at 30,000 the increase performance of a cam upgrade would require other upgrades? Maybe in the rocker box department? So far my list looks like S&S plate and pump. Gears, chains, tensioners. Maybe their cam or any other you recommend. S&S adjustable pushrods. A cam bearing puller. And maybe some other things you might recommend. Dont wat to spend a ton of money but I want this engine to last until Im too old to ride it. Slight performance gains would be nice but She runs well enough and I would not trade reliability for performance at this point. If not for the adjusters I would not be opening the engine up at all. She has performed flawlessly. But if I need to I might as well upgrade a bit. Ive seen a lot of guys start having issues as soon as they start spending money on mods... I just want to ride.
Rear wheel adapter for a 03 103 ci road king. Wanting just a little wider in the rear wheel. Thank you dor these videos you are gifted and knowledgeable. Love watching them .
Very good video. Thanks for the helpful info. Going thru tge cam plate and pump issue as I type and you've helped me decide to go with S&S. Will be calling you
Thanks, Kevin! I’m looking to purchase a 2016 Street Glide Special with a 103ci Twin Cam, with just under 4K miles. I will save this video, and will definitely keep you guys in mind for parts! Take care, Eddie Hugs. Philadelphia, Pa.
Alot of answers here that i wanted to know. I have been back and forth in my head over this camplate arangement. I have a problem that makes me always think more is always better. Im always worried im not getting enough oil pressure and think i need the most pressure i can get. I wasnt thinking about the overburden of oil causing other issues. Very informative for me. Im ok with a piston video if you want. Im sure i will learn something which is always a good thing. Have a great weekend. Dont work too hard !!
added subject as requested. Swingarm remedy for rear wheel steer, and wobbles-speed shake. examples; stiffies, and steering links that correct or help swingarm drift. in my 02 RK, and 01 FLHT, I've installed a progressive steering link, and stiffies, inserted in the swingarm rubber bushing. tremendous improvement in handling. tks. for sharing your Harley knowledge, it helps a lot and goes a long way in answering questions. keep emm coming.
WOW, outstanding info Kevin. I`m in the middle of a total rebuild and I`m going to talk with my builder about some of the info you brought to me in just a short time. Thanks.
Great information Kevin. You do a good job of clearly going over the topic, in all cases. I have a '19 M8 softail(SE stage III). Cam chest is on the sheet for upgrades so is suspension and breaks, "GO FAST - STOP FAST"! If and when you do a brake video can you also include the +/- of SS braided lines? Thanks again.
I like your common sense approach and explaining why. I have worked as a harley mech for better than 20 years. It is difficult to help cuustomers make the correct decision. They have all watched some video andare the expert. Good work hopefully some of them will watch you and really understand whats going on. Jim
Another great video Kevin. This is exactly the kind of information riders should be aware of before they upgrade their cams. I followed most of your advice when I had my S&S cams installed except for the oil pump. Wish I knew then what I know now.
Kevin I have been watching all your video's trying to decide what to do with my motor 2021 114 SGS. I just want to thank you for all the great info. I have been sharing some on FB, I hope that's ok.
Awesome informative video. You do a great job explaining Professor Baxter. As you mentioned at the end of the video. If I need to order parts, I will order from you folks or just haul it over to your shop to do the service. Good MoJo goes around.
i love all your learning videos. i own a 103 twin cam 2014 model and like to learn more. I want to bring it to your shop to have S&S cams cam plate oil pump and anything else that goes in there.
Uhm, you may want to recant that statement. Most motorcycles of every brand and make require upgrades when it comes to performance enhancement. You can ride most brands and makes without having to upgrade the performance if you so choose.
Back around the late eighties you bought the bike and an optional $3000 stroker mod. Of course the big bikes ran from around $8600 -$13ish thousand. My '90 heritage Softail classic new was $11,900 in stock form. I kept it stock except for removing the jumper wire on the tank mounted headlight switch so headlight wouldn't come on when the bike was started up and could either switch the headlight on manually or leave it off and just run the passing lights
@@lawnboyfromhell Lol. Not true.. not at all…. First of all. It’s a rare occurrence that there are issues.. every manufacturer has issues.. harley is very reliable .. people selling you products always sell the need
Good video my friend I have a 103 heritage manufactured 2016 low mileage it does sound more noisy than others I have had I have had 5 harleys to date I changed the oil to a brand I like and that seemed to help regards Alan from the UK
Thank you Kevin for all the great info. I always thought that your favorite manufacturer was S&S and now I’m sure. I’m saving my pennies to put a gear drive set up in my 05 Fatboy. I’ll definitely give you a call when I get there. Good video.
Fantastic, it’s great to hear someone so damn knowledgeable!! Wow! I’m new to your channel, and I’m very glad I found it. I can’t wait to check out more and learn more about my motorcycle. Thank you so much!!😎🤙🏻
Very Informational video.. Thank you for taking the time to do that.. It is much appreciated.. I also emailed you with a parts request.. Thanks again Bob..
Very informative video Kevin. Decisions I made at the time of purchase would have been different had I been aware of your channel beforehand. I would have been better off buying my bike stock and bringing it to you for my engine build and other add-ons (fan assisted oil cooler). Looking forward to working with you and getting my bike right.
Thank you Kev, I needed this information as I'm a man who needs to know the nitty gritty of parts and there rolls 👍 currently my bike is a my16 break out . Its getting the crank Timken plugged and true'ed, CNC heads , 110 SNS high comp pistons and I hope we select the right cam and now the SNS chest plate and pump,.
Excellent info... I did the screaming eagle plate & pump on my 06 Deluxe along with an Axtell oil pressure regulator valve system....working great so far...thanks for the great videos!
Hey Kevin sure glad you were able to get a camplate and oil pump from S & S. I on the other hand have been waiting for 5 months with absolutely no response from them. Funny that in the US the only storages we are seeing are the things coming from overseas. So I’m wondering why a company claiming Made in the USA is having such a problem with an item made from billet aluminum. I’m done with S & S and buying a Feuling
What an awesome video. I’m considering a cam oil pump and cam plate for my 2019 HD SGS. HD does not offer a high performance oil pump or cam plate with their cam/piston upgrades. Bigger engine more performance seems to me requires a high performance oil pump and cam plate. I’m not sure why.
The stock pumps ability to scavenge is barely adequate to support a stock engine...and often, not enough at all. I'll be happy to answer your questions if youd like to shoot me an email kevin@protwin.com You have options far better than HD would be able to provide you.
Excellent very informative, i have a 2006 dyna, i have had to fix everything you talked about now you explain why things went wrong with my bike thanks, its nice to understand why. I was lucky on the chain tensioner the bearings went on the trans had it rebuilt, Heritage harley screwed that up than they sold to someone else, went back 1 year later, had to replace the transmission 2 years into it will see. I have 56k on the bike, so i like to head off problem if i can? Thanks again.
Absolutely. Were moving on to that exact subject in the next couple weeks. I'll have Feuling on and we will be focusing on M8 oiling systems...plates, pumps, cam, etc.
Kevin, thanks for another very informative video. Very down to earth explanations. Would you do a short video on air filtration and your recommendations. I am seeing a lot of others post videos on the merits of stock OEM paper vs aftermarket. Seeing your 67 brings back memories of a chevy big block and a twenty dollar bill taped to the dash. Knew a fellow who had that and if you could reach the bill and rip it off while he was going through the gears, you could keep it. I don't remember anyone getting that $20.00 bill!! 62 Chevy SS 4 speed 409 high performance.
I have been watching your videos and they have only added to my belief that Harley-Davidson engineers are to be commended for taking an engine, who's design exists firmly in the 1940s (or earlier) and making it usable in today's motorcycle market. That these bikes run consistently at highway speeds, survive performance upgrades and remain oil tight is a testament to the level of engineering that goes into their very existence.
Kevin,I would love to learn and understand better about HD softail frames, I have an 04 FLSTC and would like to know their strengths and weakness. Your channel has been a tremendous resource.THX Curtis
Love your videos and have been watching for a long time. Wanted to just make one correction in your explanation of forging. Forging (even "hot forging") does not use liquid metal to form the part. Forging uses a solid piece of billet material and mostly uses a hammering process (forging) to make the part in a die. The process you described where liquid metal is in a die and solidifies under pressure sounds like high pressure die casting, where liquid aluminum is injected into a die under several tons of pressure until it solidifies enough to eject out of the opening mold. How you explained the porosity in the metal (you talked about bubbles or air pockets) was very good, and is a problem for any foundry. All castings, no matter what process is used have some degree of porosity in them. Forging typically doesn't because the source material is a solid billet block. Same goes for machining parts from aluminum billet. The billet block is inherently porosity free.
I put a Jagg filter on my 2010 FXSTC a few weeks after I bought it new. I actually have to put a cover over it in the Winter because otherwise it takes forever for the engine to get up to temperature. I am in Portland, Oregon where it rarely gets below freezing. If I'm stuck in traffic on a very hot day the engine still stays relatively cool.. Oil temps around 185F. I change the oil/filter once a year and always have the drain analyzed. I've had this bike for 15 years and it still runs great so I'm a big fan of that cooler.
I just love learning about my bike,and I’ve learnt more from your vids than anywhere else ,you give me confidence to work on my machine and to make educated decisions instead of guessing,thanks again Kevin ,do you send parts to Australia?
Your videos are great you deliver the information great I like knowing why ...cause and effect thank you sir will be watching Bob fla.hsve two softails and a dyna wide glide
I understood and experienced the design flaw of the OEM HDMC oil-cooler and ran JAGG on my TC's - currently I have a 107CI M8 - just wondering if the OEM (Stock) cooler is equal in design as the previous ones and if should consider replacing it with a JAGG cooler. On their website they mention Softail 2018 and up but the pics shown are all TC engines and I'm unsure if I can rip and replace the OEM one w/o much consideration. Thanks ahead and keep up the good work - your channel is very informative and content is most useful.
Man I like your entire video but I really liked how you hit on oil pressure. People don't understand that pressure is the resistance to flow. You can have almost no oil pressure but still have plenty of flow
If you do a video on pistons please include your viewpoints on rings as well, ie: materials, low/standard tension and maybe gapless vs gapped. Thanks, great informative videos.
As far as recommending video topics. Put stage packages together including parts you prefer, with differing price points and outputs. I’m in the market to do a stage 2 on my 17 SGS and getting so many different recommendations.
Very informative. On the S&S oil pump screen: if you have debris from a component failure, won't it plug the screen? Also, with the same S&S oil pump that has 40% more scavaging, couldn't that harm the engine? It's my understanding that Harley engines depend on some of the oil in the sump for lubrication, splash feed to the lower ends.
Hey Kevin, I love your videos. You take me to school every time! Have you done a video comparing the top brands of cam plates? You've convinced me to upgrade my cam plate, oil pump setup on my '06 but find S&S pricey so would like to know about the other brands.
Thats the plan for this one. Have been collecting parts and having things made like custom pistons, cam, etc. Also have a 3 carb setup...original 54 Corvette Carter YH horizontal carbs. i'll be making a stainless intake and exhaust for it as well. Just been so busy, havent had time to work on it. I'll also be boring to 4.125.....a 327 CID I6. Pretty cool.
Kevin, thank you for taking the time. I have a 2018 StreetGlide 107 with slip ons and an air cleaner. The warranty expires in a month and there are 28,000 miles on the odometer. I have the latest iteration of the factory oil pump new in the box that I am considering installing. If I go to that trouble I would also want to replace the cam with a redshift 468, lifters, pushrods, and cuff. The question is, how early do the cam plates start causing trouble. Due to expense I was considering reusing the factory unit. Would I be wasting my time? I ride daily and my bike pretty much lives between 2000 and 3500 RPM with occasional runs up to 4000. I’ve never bumped the rev limiter. Thank you, Roy
Just discovered your channel...guess better late than never. So much info and knowledge....thank you for putting this together and the hard work you are doing. May i know where your shop is located as i will only order parts from you? Thank you so much
This man is the most honest and to the point mechanic on you tube. Facts. Life is what it is.
We're very fortunate to have an extremely knowledgeable gentleman to explain such technicalities to us, the unwashed.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You have an art to also explain and teach in such detail, in a manner that can be understood by the average Joe with little to no experience.
Thank you again!
Kevin you are my go to Harley engine builder. When I do all of the things I've learned from you I will absolutely buy parts from you! And everyone else should too. No free rides in life guys!
Thank you very much Aaron
Topic Suggestion - A general guide on how a DIY guy should approach upgrades to their Twin Cam bike. What is the best, most reasonable category, hierarchy of components to upgrade .... First, Second, Third, etc.? And of course the reasoning behind choices.
Being an auto mechanic for 33 years, I understand a lot of what your saying. My 99 rk sat for about 2 years before I bought in Aug. 20. He never been in the engine so I see i have a lot of inspection to so. It has about 47k on it and I put about 1600 miles on since Aug. Thanks for the videos. I will be in touch when ordering parts.
Just installed S&S cam plate and TC3 oil pump as part of the VH 575 cam install in my 2015 FLSTF, very good quality components from S&S and definitely should be a part of any engine build
Nice explanation, Kevin. I'm really chuffed to be now part of this community!
Welcome aboard! and thank you for your support. Glad to have you sir. Be sure to check out all the behind the scenes members only videos too.
Kevin is a very knowledgeable tec speaks extremely well and clear. I have learned more from watching just a few of his videos than I have working next to buddies who I considered top of the game. No offense buddies. Anyway just wanted to put it out there this guy is super at what he does and I'm going to order all my parts throu you Kevin. Keep it real like you do bro and big thanks for all you do.
Great upgrades Thay are coming up with , you cover all things well I think so do what you know. Thanks for showing telling keep it up cause I am learning,see ya on the next video see ya bye.
Installed the S&S cam plate and oil pump with S&S 551 cams along with S&S precision lifters and quick push rods. Used these videos as my go to guide on any questions with the install. I now have 8k on the motor after the build runs strong. Love the S&S parts very high quality.
I will definitely buy my parts from Baxters when time comes for my next project.
I’d love to see a video on porting heads.
Just installed S&S plate and pump into my 19 FatBoy along with a 475 cam and S&S lifters and cuffs,also replaced the cam bearing in the case with the help of a Jims tool. The whole job took me about 3 hours, taking my time and triple checking my work as it's my first time working on a M8.
Nice job bud. Congrats.
Love the information you put out in all your videos. Can't say enough how much I appreciate you.
Thank you sir.
Yeah, I'm hooked! I'm also on sensory overload trying to catch up with your videos! OUTSTANDING!
Hey Kevin I'm going to order that s&s cam plate/oil pump from you in the near future. as a matter of fact it's the exact same one you're using in your video (2000 RG) I also appreciate all your labor in making these videos, I see you're in the shop by yourself a lot. Thanks for the great uploads
Easy to understand edjucator, tons of info in timely order, Thanks Homie
Stumbled across your channel Kevin and thoroughly enjoyed it thank you so much for spending time and preparation showing us what's right and what's wrong on the Harley engines
Welcome aboard! Thank you.
Big thanks I love S&S parts. On a Milwaukee 8 water cooled heads where would you mount the oil cooler???
Kevin, I stopped out last week to meet you and I’ve been watching your videos and you are definitely an engineer like myself. You do an excellent job in your videos getting the information across. I also want to say your charity work is awesome. I will definitely be coming to for service on mine and my wife’s motorcycles. It was a pleasure meeting you. I really enjoy your videos. You do an excellent job.
Pleasure to meet you sir. Enjoyed the visit. Thanks for the kind words and look forward to seeing you soon.
Absolutely a complete lesson there Kevin the old chev engine would be a interesting complement to your machine service
Thank you! You are a great man, I’ve called you few months ago and you spoke to me and guide me to choose my chain driven cams instead of gear cams cause my runout was more than required. Thank you sir. I will have you build me Mototrsonwheels this year.
Very kind of you Tim...thank you. I will look forward to it sir. All the best.
Awesome Vid', Kevin. Thanks , I will pass this one on to my HD friends, One rides a CVO Limited. Not sure of the year though. ( I'm a Yamaha rider..... lol). Anyway, aside from that, the tech name for those pumps is a Gerotor pump, a contraction of "generated rotor". (That primary pump you mentioned would be referred to as a "charge pump" in heavy industry.... keeps the big main pump's suction port at positive suction head, 5 psi., when supply and return volumes vary due to loading, etc., during operation. It's built into the main pump. Any leakage oil from the pump into the pump-casing goes back via case-drain to tank, (sump in your case). Sunstrand Sauer, Eaton Char-Lynn, etc., use the same configuration on a lot of their big hydraulic pumps). I'm thinking HD is doing the same when I see that dual- pump configuration you showed us ?? Yes ????
Stay Safe and ride on.
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That would be the same sir...and I learned something from your comment. Thank you for posting and sharing.
I really enjoyed the Road Star... I had an "05." It made the V&H pipes talk!
But, the nasty oile bank said I had to give it back, cause I couldn't make the payments...
Again a very helpful video. In it you caused me to develop a question based on a problem I have been fighting all summer. In the winter of 2021/2022 I pulled my primary off and replaced all of the seals and bearing along with the seals to the transmission on the primary side. They were leaking a little bit after 72,000 miles on my 2005 FLHRCI Road King Classic. While I was at it I did a check on my flywheel run out at both ends which both were at .002" or lower. So since I have HQ-0034-G cams (I talked with you about & purchased them in 2007 at Head Quarters from you) I purchased a S&S camplate & pump (before knowing about your videos & shop) & installed it. Well once I was able to ride it started to leak oil & have traced it to my oil pan gasket. I am on my 5th metal coated gasket (4 Cometic 1 Harley) now with an intake & engine case to oil filler breathers installed. I first torqued in the manual sequence & 108 in-lbs specs on the 1st one. The next one I increased to 120 in-lbs, I even used Permatex gasket sealer on two installs. I am now at 168 in-lbs & got there on the last gasket by doing it in stages from 96, 108, 120, 132, 144, 156 & then 168 in-lbs. This has reduced the leaking but it still is leaking. I have checked the surface for flatness on the case & pan along with replacing the old pan with a newer one that does not have the stupid plastic baffle & springs with the new style that has actual cast in baffles & riveted tray top. Do you think it is possible that the S&S pump & camplate are providing to much oil pressure & causing the oil to be pushed out of the gasket?
Great source of information and knowledge as well as honest evaluation of our favorite motorcycle brand, Harley Davidson. Thank you Kevin and keep up the good work
Some awesome info... thank you :) From Australia and working with someone locally but wanted to make sure I had some good knowledge going into my next upgrades. This video has helped a LOT!
Thanks. Who ya working with in OZ? Have quite a few friends there in Brisbane and Sydney areas.
@@KevinBaxter Working with Adam from Brown Industries just near Newcastle. He has done other mods for me and is local which is nice.
You may have already done this but interested to hear your experience with upgrading 114" to 128" as this is what I'm looking at doing. Not sure if should go an S&S or there is a builder north called Alpha Performance Engines which does a 128 which has some good local reviews.
Thanks for this great video,greetings from Dublin Ireland,my biggest hassles with my 103 fat boy 2015
Was greeting the dealer to align the rear axle ! A nightmare every time they took off the rear wheel ,rubbing noises from the belt drive after driving a few miles ,I ended up have to buy the jack,belt tension tool and doing it myself ,all the best Jim
As always, great information! Now I have to upgrade my NEW (2019) M8! As soon as I get the money, you will get it!!! I just wish you would relax a little. ALWAYS EXCITED! You are very enthused about this subject and it shows. Its always great to see your videos and I always learn more from you then just about anyone else. Keep up the good work.
So glad I stumbled on your site Kevin. I subbed and like a bunch of your stuff.
I keep things I like forever. I bought my 78.5 Shovel new in November of 78. Still have it. I started doing mostly my own work back in 79 when the HD dealer did the first 500 mile check and tried to screw me. I had been warned they would charge for fluid changes they did not do. I put clear nail polish on some screws etc. and proved that to be true.
Today I mostly ride my 2006 FLHTCI 88 that my wife "allowed" for my 50th. Both are keepers!
The twin cam was delivered in October of 05. I was interested in one of your vids you recommended the 06 and some other specific years to answer a question from a viewer.
She has 30,000 this month. Regular oil changes at 2500. Full synth always. I had the cam tensioners checked at about 27,000. They were ok then. Im planning to replace them now. Maybe over the winter, if not sooner... as Ive become paranoid they will come apart. Ive been studying every vid I can find for a week now and yours have been the best.
So Ive been looking at the kits from Feuling and S&S as well as considering Screaming Eagle parts. Seems like this vid convinced me on the S&S. But looks like considerably more money.
Heres what I have. Stock motor. HD Heavy Breather and Samson 39" Long Tail slipons with the stock header pipes. No Oxy sensors. I used a Dyno Jet Power Commander to adjust to the new components rather than paying HD big bucks to flash the stock module. I intend to go with new cams and S&S adjustable push rods to avoid all the tank removal and rocker box disassembly. Im old but I ride hard. I live in Jersey so highway blasts are suicidal ... garbage trucks are going 80 with crap flying out... I dont beat my machines but I wind things up towards redline if I need to go. High speed for sustained periods is not out of the question and passing on 2 lane road is done... with authority. Jersey drivers like to go slow when your behind them but then race you to 90 when you try and pass.
Im 64 but after 30 years in the trucking business I still ride my FL like a kid on a crotch rocket.
My question is can you provide a package from S&S with cams and all that you would recommend to give just a bit more uumph without sacrificing reliability. using the pipes and air cleaner I have? I dont have access to a dyno but I believe I can still go online and get maps frome Dyno Jet that should get me close. If after its all one I need a dyno run to get it right Im sure someone is close enough that I can trust.
Also do you think at 30,000 the increase performance of a cam upgrade would require other upgrades? Maybe in the rocker box department?
So far my list looks like S&S plate and pump. Gears, chains, tensioners. Maybe their cam or any other you recommend. S&S adjustable pushrods. A cam bearing puller. And maybe some other things you might recommend. Dont wat to spend a ton of money but I want this engine to last until Im too old to ride it. Slight performance gains would be nice but She runs well enough and I would not trade reliability for performance at this point.
If not for the adjusters I would not be opening the engine up at all. She has performed flawlessly. But if I need to I might as well upgrade a bit. Ive seen a lot of guys start having issues as soon as they start spending money on mods... I just want to ride.
Keep the videos coming, and may I suggest you do a video on some of the builds you put in the background that we drool over while you enlighten us 😎
Very detailed and informative video! Thank you Kevin! Will be purchasing very soon!
Rear wheel adapter for a 03 103 ci road king. Wanting just a little wider in the rear wheel. Thank you dor these videos you are gifted and knowledgeable. Love watching them .
Very good video. Thanks for the helpful info. Going thru tge cam plate and pump issue as I type and you've helped me decide to go with S&S. Will be calling you
Thanks, Kevin!
I’m looking to purchase a 2016 Street Glide Special with a 103ci Twin Cam, with just under 4K miles.
I will save this video, and will definitely keep you guys in mind for parts!
Take care,
Eddie Hugs.
Philadelphia, Pa.
thank you sir. good luck with the purchase!
Alot of answers here that i wanted to know. I have been back and forth in my head over this camplate arangement. I have a problem that makes me always think more is always better. Im always worried im not getting enough oil pressure and think i need the most pressure i can get. I wasnt thinking about the overburden of oil causing other issues. Very informative for me. Im ok with a piston video if you want. Im sure i will learn something which is always a good thing. Have a great weekend. Dont work too hard !!
Thank you! Appreciate the kind words. Glad i was able to help.
added subject as requested. Swingarm remedy for rear wheel steer, and wobbles-speed shake. examples; stiffies, and steering links that correct or help swingarm drift. in my 02 RK, and 01 FLHT, I've installed a progressive steering link, and stiffies, inserted in the swingarm rubber bushing. tremendous improvement in handling. tks. for sharing your Harley knowledge, it helps a lot and goes a long way in answering questions. keep emm coming.
Just recently found your channel and glad I did. Great video, learned something from it.
Thanks!
WOW, outstanding info Kevin. I`m in the middle of a total rebuild and I`m going to talk with my builder about some of the info you brought to me in just a short time. Thanks.
Thank you for becoming a member Bob. I greatly appreciate you sir. Glad the information helps you. Best of luck!
Great information Kevin. You do a good job of clearly going over the topic, in all cases. I have a '19 M8 softail(SE stage III). Cam chest is on the sheet for upgrades so is suspension and breaks, "GO FAST - STOP FAST"! If and when you do a brake video can you also include the +/- of SS braided lines? Thanks again.
Thanks Mike. Great suggestion on the brake video too. Lots to cover there as well as on suspension.
I like your common sense approach and explaining why. I have worked as a harley mech for better than 20 years. It is difficult to help cuustomers make the correct decision. They have all watched some video andare the expert. Good work hopefully some of them will watch you and really understand whats going on.
Jim
I stumbled onto your Harley videos Mr Baxter , and loved them , i have learned so much , keep those videos coming i just subscribed👌👍
Another great video Kevin. This is exactly the kind of information riders should be aware of before they upgrade their cams. I followed most of your advice when I had my S&S cams installed except for the oil pump. Wish I knew then what I know now.
Thank you Kerry. Appreciate you sharing the word. Good luck with your upgrade!
Kevin I have been watching all your video's trying to decide what to do with my motor 2021 114 SGS. I just want to thank you for all the great info. I have been sharing some on FB, I hope that's ok.
thank you sir
Awesome informative video. You do a great job explaining Professor Baxter. As you mentioned at the end of the video. If I need to order parts, I will order from you folks or just haul it over to your shop to do the service. Good MoJo goes around.
Thank you very much sir! I greatly appreciate that. Glad I could help.
Respect to you for being a decent honest person and doing the right thing.
Safe rides 👍🤜
I just learned a lot from you! I will be making upgrades based in this video. Thank you!
i love all your learning videos. i own a 103 twin cam 2014 model and like to learn more. I want to bring it to your shop to have S&S cams cam plate oil pump and anything else that goes in there.
Great video Keven, I have been using Fueling cam plate and pump kits for years, I think I will have to look into S&S again.
Thanks for the content. Above and beyond for making informed choices.
You have been very informative Kevin. Looking forward to talking with you about upgrades to my bike.
Can't wait!
Harley Davidson - literally the only vehicle manufacturer that you have to upgrade right from the factory just to make it work like its supposed to.
Yes, spend 30 on a bike and 30 on repairs before you can ride it, capitalism at it's finest, however customer loyalty is earned.
Uhm, you may want to recant that statement. Most motorcycles of every brand and make require upgrades when it comes to performance enhancement. You can ride most brands and makes without having to upgrade the performance if you so choose.
Back around the late eighties you bought the bike and an optional $3000 stroker mod. Of course the big bikes ran from around $8600 -$13ish thousand. My '90 heritage Softail classic new was $11,900 in stock form. I kept it stock except for removing the jumper wire on the tank mounted headlight switch so headlight wouldn't come on when the bike was started up and could either switch the headlight on manually or leave it off and just run the passing lights
Bs
@@lawnboyfromhell Lol. Not true.. not at all…. First of all. It’s a rare occurrence that there are issues.. every manufacturer has issues.. harley is very reliable .. people selling you products always sell the need
Hell yes I’ll be ordering my parts from you guys. Great info
Would love to hear more about the suspension and brake options. As always, thanks so much for the knowledge! 🙏
Ok got it from the next video. You are in Georgia. Thanks again I'll be watching. Mike
Thanks 👍
Good video my friend I have a 103 heritage manufactured 2016 low mileage it does sound more noisy than others I have had I have had 5 harleys to date I changed the oil to a brand I like and that seemed to help regards Alan from the UK
Thanks Alan. Glad you found a low cost solution. All the best across the pond.
@@KevinBaxter Thank you my friend regards Alan
Awesome video and thank you for your time and knowledge love the videos anything with combustion engines and harleys I’d watch all day
Thank you so much. I appreciate the sub.
Thank you Kevin for all the great info. I always thought that your favorite manufacturer was S&S and now I’m sure. I’m saving my pennies to put a gear drive set up in my 05 Fatboy. I’ll definitely give you a call when I get there. Good video.
Thank you very much! I look forward to speaking with you.
Fantastic, it’s great to hear someone so damn knowledgeable!! Wow! I’m new to your channel, and I’m very glad I found it. I can’t wait to check out more and learn more about my motorcycle. Thank you so much!!😎🤙🏻
Now your making me wish I had gone with a S&S cam plate when you did my motor.
'Sup MIkey ................JtB
Excellent presentation - thank you
Very Informational video.. Thank you for taking the time to do that.. It is much appreciated.. I also emailed you with a parts request.. Thanks again Bob..
Very informative video Kevin. Decisions I made at the time of purchase would have been different had I been aware of your channel beforehand. I would have been better off buying my bike stock and bringing it to you for my engine build and other add-ons (fan assisted oil cooler). Looking forward to working with you and getting my bike right.
I ride an 04 Road King with 33K miles. Looks like I better check/ change my cam tensioners. Enjoyed this video. Thanks
Thank you Kev, I needed this information as I'm a man who needs to know the nitty gritty of parts and there rolls 👍 currently my bike is a my16 break out . Its getting the crank Timken plugged and true'ed, CNC heads , 110 SNS high comp pistons and I hope we select the right cam and now the SNS chest plate and pump,.
Fueling Race Series oil pump and cam plate vs S&S oil pump and cam plate on a Harley M8 114?
You’ve got a new Subscriber! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge!
Great videos Mr. Baxter Very informative.
Great video Kevin, with great info. Thanks so much for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent info... I did the screaming eagle plate & pump on my 06 Deluxe along with an Axtell oil pressure regulator valve system....working great so far...thanks for the great videos!
Hey Kevin sure glad you were able to get a camplate and oil pump from S & S. I on the other hand have been waiting for 5 months with absolutely no response from them. Funny that in the US the only storages we are seeing are the things coming from overseas. So I’m wondering why a company claiming Made in the USA is having such a problem with an item made from billet aluminum. I’m done with S & S and buying a Feuling
Thank you so much for the education. Appreciate you sharing
What an awesome video. I’m considering a cam oil pump and cam plate for my 2019 HD SGS. HD does not offer a high performance oil pump or cam plate with their cam/piston upgrades. Bigger engine more performance seems to me requires a high performance oil pump and cam plate. I’m not sure why.
The stock pumps ability to scavenge is barely adequate to support a stock engine...and often, not enough at all. I'll be happy to answer your questions if youd like to shoot me an email kevin@protwin.com You have options far better than HD would be able to provide you.
Excellent very informative, i have a 2006 dyna, i have had to fix everything you talked about now you explain why things went wrong with my bike thanks, its nice to understand why. I was lucky on the chain tensioner the bearings went on the trans had it rebuilt, Heritage harley screwed that up than they sold to someone else, went back 1 year later, had to replace the transmission 2 years into it will see. I have 56k on the bike, so i like to head off problem if i can? Thanks again.
youre welcome sir. thanks for watching
Outstanding video kevin. Hope you will do the same on the m8 oiling system.thank you
Absolutely. Were moving on to that exact subject in the next couple weeks. I'll have Feuling on and we will be focusing on M8 oiling systems...plates, pumps, cam, etc.
Great video will be giving you guys a call for Parts when i upgrade.
Thank you so much!
Kevin, thanks for another very informative video. Very down to earth explanations. Would you do a short video on air filtration and your recommendations. I am seeing a lot of others post videos on the merits of stock OEM paper vs aftermarket.
Seeing your 67 brings back memories of a chevy big block and a twenty dollar bill taped to the dash. Knew a fellow who had that and if you could reach the bill and rip it off while he was going through the gears, you could keep it. I don't remember anyone getting that $20.00 bill!! 62 Chevy SS 4 speed 409 high performance.
I have been watching your videos and they have only added to my belief that Harley-Davidson engineers are to be commended for taking an engine, who's design exists firmly in the 1940s (or earlier) and making it usable in today's motorcycle market. That these bikes run consistently at highway speeds, survive performance upgrades and remain oil tight is a testament to the level of engineering that goes into their very existence.
Kevin,I would love to learn and understand better about HD softail frames, I have an 04 FLSTC and would like to know their strengths and weakness. Your channel has been a tremendous resource.THX Curtis
Great video, just went to your website and all I found were feulling cam plates, even with a search for S&S.
Love your videos and have been watching for a long time. Wanted to just make one correction in your explanation of forging. Forging (even "hot forging") does not use liquid metal to form the part. Forging uses a solid piece of billet material and mostly uses a hammering process (forging) to make the part in a die. The process you described where liquid metal is in a die and solidifies under pressure sounds like high pressure die casting, where liquid aluminum is injected into a die under several tons of pressure until it solidifies enough to eject out of the opening mold. How you explained the porosity in the metal (you talked about bubbles or air pockets) was very good, and is a problem for any foundry. All castings, no matter what process is used have some degree of porosity in them. Forging typically doesn't because the source material is a solid billet block. Same goes for machining parts from aluminum billet. The billet block is inherently porosity free.
So where does that solid piece of billet steel come from?
I put a Jagg filter on my 2010 FXSTC a few weeks after I bought it new. I actually have to put a cover over it in the Winter because otherwise it takes forever for the engine to get up to temperature. I am in Portland, Oregon where it rarely gets below freezing. If I'm stuck in traffic on a very hot day the engine still stays relatively cool.. Oil temps around 185F. I change the oil/filter once a year and always have the drain analyzed. I've had this bike for 15 years and it still runs great so I'm a big fan of that cooler.
I learn so much on this channel. Thank you for these educational videos
Great Video. All the best and please keep up the good work.
I just love learning about my bike,and I’ve learnt more from your vids than anywhere else ,you give me confidence to work on my machine and to make educated decisions instead of guessing,thanks again Kevin ,do you send parts to Australia?
Your videos are great you deliver the information great I like knowing why ...cause and effect thank you sir will be watching Bob fla.hsve two softails and a dyna wide glide
I’ve always used Fueling Camplate and Zippers tensioners and had zero problems.
Awesome video! Thank you for posting this one!
I understood and experienced the design flaw of the OEM HDMC oil-cooler and ran JAGG on my TC's - currently I have a 107CI M8 - just wondering if the OEM (Stock) cooler is equal in design as the previous ones and if should consider replacing it with a JAGG cooler. On their website they mention Softail 2018 and up but the pics shown are all TC engines and I'm unsure if I can rip and replace the OEM one w/o much consideration. Thanks ahead and keep up the good work - your channel is very informative and content is most useful.
2018 m8 S&S 475g with plate and pump, thundermax, runs great.
Man I like your entire video but I really liked how you hit on oil pressure. People don't understand that pressure is the resistance to flow. You can have almost no oil pressure but still have plenty of flow
As always great content!
If you do a video on pistons please include your viewpoints on rings as well, ie: materials, low/standard tension and maybe gapless vs gapped. Thanks, great informative videos.
That's on the list. Thank you.
As far as recommending video topics. Put stage packages together including parts you prefer, with differing price points and outputs. I’m in the market to do a stage 2 on my 17 SGS and getting so many different recommendations.
Very informative. On the S&S oil pump screen: if you have debris from a component failure, won't it plug the screen? Also, with the same S&S oil pump that has 40% more scavaging, couldn't that harm the engine? It's my understanding that Harley engines depend on some of the oil in the sump for lubrication, splash feed to the lower ends.
Hey Kevin, I love your videos. You take me to school every time! Have you done a video comparing the top brands of cam plates? You've convinced me to upgrade my cam plate, oil pump setup on my '06 but find S&S pricey so would like to know about the other brands.
You are putting out Excellent Video's!!! I Subscribed.
thank you so much for that and your sub. welcome to the family.
I have a 302 GMC six cylinder engine and would very much like to see you do a video on performance building one!
Thats the plan for this one. Have been collecting parts and having things made like custom pistons, cam, etc. Also have a 3 carb setup...original 54 Corvette Carter YH horizontal carbs. i'll be making a stainless intake and exhaust for it as well. Just been so busy, havent had time to work on it. I'll also be boring to 4.125.....a 327 CID I6. Pretty cool.
Kevin, thank you for taking the time. I have a 2018 StreetGlide 107 with slip ons and an air cleaner. The warranty expires in a month and there are 28,000 miles on the odometer. I have the latest iteration of the factory oil pump new in the box that I am considering installing. If I go to that trouble I would also want to replace the cam with a redshift 468, lifters, pushrods, and cuff. The question is, how early do the cam plates start causing trouble. Due to expense I was considering reusing the factory unit. Would I be wasting my time? I ride daily and my bike pretty much lives between 2000 and 3500 RPM with occasional runs up to 4000. I’ve never bumped the rev limiter.
Thank you,
Roy
I’d like to hear/see performance benefits of Harleys fuel injection system when upgrading the programmer vs only doing cams
Just discovered your channel...guess better late than never. So much info and knowledge....thank you for putting this together and the hard work you are doing. May i know where your shop is located as i will only order parts from you? Thank you so much