6.5 Creedmoor VS .243 - How many Milk Jugs???
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- Which one is better??? 6.5 Creedmoor or 243 win???
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Either way I’m not selling my .243 … 😂
Why would you?
Exactly.
Right on!!
Not selling mine and if I bought another rifle it wouldn't be a 6.5 Creedmoor maybe a 6mm Creedmoor
I sold mine a few years ago, couldn’t find ammo so traded it on an AR. I got a super good deal. Now I own a 30-06 for catchin deers lol
I confess, bought daughter when she was 11 a Browing A-Bolt .243 long before there was a 6.5 Creed. Couple years back, before the ammo cluster, GunB roker auction had 200 round case of 100gr. Federal .243 S.P. no one seemed to want, so I got it for $74.00.
Four years or so ago I bought two new in the box 6.5 Creedmoors, have yet to buy even a 20 round box of ammo for them.
I even passed on a $75.00 6.5 DPMS Creed barrel for the next AR10 build.
There are only two 1,000 yard ranges in Florida open to the public, and my FBI friends are all retired now so I can't mooch their turf.
My Rem. 700 BDL in .270 gets the call for deer camp, and the AR15's in 7.62x39 get the call for pigs in cqb palmettos.
Actually, sorry I bothered buying the 6.5 Creeds.
You are undoubtedly the hardest working man on TH-cam. Keep 'em coming!
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Great video as always! Love the duel videos with the milk jugs!
Can you test to see which cartridge is most effective against uh, weather balloons? Asking for a friend!😂
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Fun fact, in WW1, Frank Luke, the balloon buster, shot down fourteen observation balloons but l he used a biplane and l think incendiary boolats. He was our 2nd leading Ace after Rickenbacker, and a crack shot growing up in his youth. The call signs for the F22s out of Langley that shot down the first balloon were Frank 1 and Frank 2. Like l said, fun but trivial, my dads squadron was stationed at Langley when l was a kid, so it caught my eye.
You round eye imperiast, no shoot down barroons, you tell friend.
Truthfully? Anything that pokes a hole in the fabric will bring a balloon down. The only question is "how quickly?" Answer? The bigger the hole, the faster it drops. Don't care how long? A needle will work. Do care about quickness? Use an explosive rocket. And for the WW1 ace, they used hydrogen gas back then - explosive with any spark. Now? They use helium - NOT explosive under ANY circumstances. Consequently you have to find a way to destroy the balloon envelope without assistance from anything.
Love the milk jug test!! Thanks WTW...have a great weekend y'all!!
Always love seeing the milk jugs and paper plates!
I’m with you! I killed a lot of deer in my youth with a .243, I have a brand new Savage Axis 2 - in 243 , that I won sitting in my safe. Need to get some optics on it and get it out this deer season.
@@ronniegillaspy I just had a Savage 340 given to me, its chambered in .222, that's all it says on it, .222 Rem. Its freeee, l love it, haven't shot it yet, the gun store that claimed to have ammo for some reason didn't when l got there, but its all good. I'm thinking of redoing it to .223, so there goes that free part.
@@jakeroberts7435 😂 Enjoy the gun, mine was free because I won it in a raffle, I’ve had it for probably 5 years and still need to put some optics on it.
Interested in seeing it in clay with the 6.5 creedmore/243/308
Should be interesting 🤔
Add 7mm08 to that list!!
@@rgroller4683 And the 260 Remington!
That would probably be “a really fun video”. …sorry couldn’t resist.
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260 Rem yes shoots a 6.5 bullet and more powder necked down 308 win /7mm-08 / 260 Rem/ 243 win all based on the 308 more powder than the Creedmoor
Really awesome ,you really do a great job
That’s a really sweet looking 243. I finally got a chance to shoot a Ruger American a couple weeks back. I was really impressed with it. Smooth action and accurate. It seems like one of the best bangs for the buck out there!
Old school but 243 for me. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching Dwayne
Awesome video! That Weatherby is beautiful!
I pulled for 243 😆 🤣
Lol ain't it, so sick of the 6.5 creedmoor hype
When talking about the 6.5 Creedmoor, several things should be kept in mind. First, Hornady came up with it for looonngg range target shooting. Does that job extremely well. Then, because it was proving so accurate, hunters latched on, stuck some hunting bullets in it, and GEE, makes a great midrange hunting caliber. Because they wanted "heavy for caliber" bullets, they gave the rifles a 1:8 twist. Smart move. That's why the 243 won out over the 244 Remington - faster twist allowing heavier bullets. Even though Remington corrected the twist with the 6mm Remington, it was too late. The 243 had the field. Same thing with the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 260 Remington. Faster twist for the Creedmoor causing the 260 to take a back seat (even though the 260 has slightly better ballistics with standard weight bullets). For comparison purposes, the 6.5 Creedmoor should be compared to the 6.5x55 Swede. And when comparing performance against the 308, both the 6.5 and the 308 should be shooting 150 grain bullets.
Why that bullet weight for both cartridges?
@@joegreen4089 - For a more realistic comparison. The 6.5 Creedmoor can use bullets up to about 160 grains, so why not make things equal as much as possible.
@@kirkboswell2575 because they are different calibers....if anything keep the sectional densities about the same
@@workct4102 - I think you are missing my point. The 6.5 Creedmoor was designed to use heavy bullets. Using bullets of 120/125 grains isn't utilizing all its potential. If we are talking about the 260 Remington, then sure, because that was what it was designed for. It's rifling twist is too slow to stabilize a heavier bullet. But the 6.5 is capable of much more. Just like the 6.5x55 Swede. It was designed to use 155/160 grain bullets. Using lighter bullets in the 6.5x55 isn't utilizing all its capable of. When comparing the 6.5 Creedmoor to the 308, you should use equal weight bullets that are within the design parameters. Thus 150 grain bullets for both. Penetration of the 6.5, in that situation, should be greater than the 308. For a secondary experiment, you could use 145 grain bullets for the 6.5, and 168 grain bullets for the 308. That would show what an efficient load could do with each.
The 5.56 was initially designed for 55 grain bullets. Our allies said "not heavy enough" and proceeded to put in a faster twist and heavier bullets, and time has proven them right. Nowadays you hear all the time about 70 and 80 grain 22 cal bullets - something unheard of in the beginning. So now, 5.56's come from the factory with a 1:7 twist.
Wildly long winded presentation.
Good video as always Brother !
Very nice. I guess I'm old school because the only rifles I have are the 243 and 308. Gun makers have been trying for years to make something better but they have not been successful. New calibers equal new gun sales and that's about the whole of it.
This will be interesting, , everybody loves a good midsize round. Creedmoor can be pricey for dogs and foxes but 243 is great for both and legal for smaller deer in Auz "just in case" one pops up, and can be had for a good price.
6.5 ammo is cheaper than .243 what are you talking about. .243 rocks but 6.5 takes the win on accuracy and range and has plenty of take down power.
@@wanderingspider8988 not in my state in australia 6.5cm is considered a bit of a "Gucci" round, 243 is cheaper. If you can get 6.5cm cheap great stuff it is fun at long range
@@bestestusername If I can find either size for less than $30 a box, I consider that a win at this point. Prices are still way too inflated to find many great sales. That pretty much goes for any ammo here at this point.
@@johnafleenor2986 30 bucks a box sounds good to this aussie, over here 243 can be had around $38-$45 a box for reasonable rounds but closer to 50+ a box for creedmoor. Hopefully when your prices go down there is a flow on affect to us over here
@@bestestusername The $30 per box is not all that uncommon for plinker rounds in either caliber. For the better BC ammo, the 6.5 Creedmoor’s are quite a bit more expensive than the 243’s. Not uncommon to see the same prices you are. The less expensive ammo is generally lightweight ammo and not what I would use for hunting any sort of large game. The prices have come down somewhat since the Covid BS, but they have come back down to what everyone would consider as “normal”. I glad that we are starting to see a variety of ammo back on store shelves but there is still a lot of room for improvement on stock levels.
Great stuff! 👍
Conduct this same test, same calibers in barns ttsx. Awesome stuff!
Most likely common deer rounds will all perform about the same. It would be interesting to see if more controlled expansion bullets like the Nosler partition would punch through or two very different popular deer rounds like the 30/30 Win and 243.Remington.
Love the old milk jug test. I love my 243 never shot a 6.5 Creedmoor. Before. Keep up the great content WTW.
Hey buddy. I’m still working 2 jobs playing catch up but I’ll be back to showing some support on the live shows soon. Another awesome video brother
Nice but I think I'll keep my 30-30 and my 45-70
.243 works just fine and ammo is relatively inexpensive as far as hunting rifle ammo goes
Awesome video as always. I’d like to see you shoot these videos from 100 yards.
Good video WTW, enjoyed watching!
Thanks for watching SJ
Excellent test, like the setup-milk jugs like that is a great idea.
.243 looks to have done slightly better the jacket stayed attached and the expansion looked pretty equal.
Could you show on a split screen of what the impact looks like. I find that the penetration is pretty consistent across many cartridges, but the energy looks very different. You know freeze frame dramatic water going everywhere, and more everywhere with other cartagena.
Great video. I just finished. A AR10 6.5 and 243 builds.
I would like to see comparisons of the 243 & 6mm Creedmoor in in jugs and clay
Looking forward to the PRC Milk Jug tests :)
Coming soon!
I have both and love both of them!
It would be cool to see you shoot through frozen milk jugs. Keep up the great content!
You sold me against the 6.5CM when you showed it doesn't exceed the ballistics of the .270win. I'll watch this one too anyway!!! Be safe yall!
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Shooting Ill grab my 6.5 creed. Hunting it stays home.
@@chrisaerts6489 meh, I don't see how it makes a difference either way out to 300 yards. And I don't wanna drag a dead deer that far no matter what it's shot with.
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I live in Florida you can't see 100 yards most of the time let alone where them fancy bullets start to make a difference I'll stick to my sissy gun .243
I always used a 270 Win for deer, and Daddy used a 30-06, and later moving to a 243 for a lighter gun with less recoil. I wanted a lighter gun with less recoil too. But with the 6.5 Creed available, I opted for one instead of the 243 as it's more versatile carrying energy further down range. And my affordable T/C Compass II shoots 3/8 inch groups at 100 yard with Hornady Precision Hunter factor ammo.
loved it!
That 243 is a great caliber! I really thought the 6.5 creedmore would go farther! Nice to know! Thanks to you!
Love the who_tee_who song. Is there a full version of that out there?
Nope
Great video. I know a lot of young hunters and some wives use the 243 on deer for it's lower recoil ,but i see very few gel / penetration tests for this caliber. No question it is not in the same league as a 270,308, etc but it would be cool to see a penetration comparison between some factory 95/100 grain loads. We are in an area in the north with bigger bodied deer and I would like to see which ones tend to go deeper so the little ones have best chance at success.
Both are great in their realm. Some even us both on elk within a reasonable range. Thanks
I've always shot my pistol bullets through 2x4"s to see how far they would penitration...could you try something like that with the 243 vs 6mm creedmoor
Well that was exciting to see. How about .243 vs 6.5 cm clay blocks
Good video , thanks
Thanks for watching!
Hi were looking at lead ammo ban in the UK could u test some none lead in .243
I'll send you a few oics of a mild steel target i shot out at 300 yards with a 243 vs 6.5 creedmore. the 243 dented it pretty good were the creedmore hardly did anything.. so i'm surpriced they both stopped in the same number of jugs. odd.
i love this type of content. I wanna try too🔥
It would have been cool if you weighed each bullet to see which stays together better on impact
Adam have you ever did 308vs7mm08 milkjugs? I've been looking through yer content!
Hmm. Can't remember. I think on clay not sure about water
I really like my Tikka t3x lite stainless in 243 ....she's a great weapon out to 500 yards for Coyotes
I bought a 243 last year and I enjoy it but I took my first deer with my 243 but I'm going deer hunting with my new 308 this year
Looking for advice on a scope for hunting in the Adirondack mountains light weight rifle build so far I found 1 the leupold VX-3HD any others you guys would recommend ?
I own and hunt with a 243, but the 6.5 CM matches up more directly with the 7mm08, since both can throw 120 and 140 grain bullets like the 6.5 CM. I just don’t find any need for the 6.5 verses the 3 rounds (243/7mm08/308) that come from this one great case. Good video, now go do the 7mm08 vs the 6.5CM and you will see that the 6.5 is 90% of the 7mm08.
Want to try milk jug test by myself. I love a good mid size round. As always this is an entertaining watch!
Appreciate you watching
Great to see one of your old school videos that made you famous
Not famous yet!
WTW, you're right brother, I have a Weatherby Vanguard 300 win mag. Bought it at a Charlotte gun show around 30 years ago. Well balanced, beautiful stock, very smooth bolt and shoots great!! Back then I only paid $375 for it. Great video!!! 👍
Awesome!
I’m with you, I bought a Remington 7mm mag BDL with a redfield 3x9 scope, beautiful stock around 35 years ago for $400. Great gun and always my go to gun.
@@ronniegillaspy Ronnie, I don't guess we'll ever see those prices again,
The good ole days...
@@silvergrizzly316 You got that right.
I like both of these calibres and they have very different uses in my opinion, the 243 has a typical bullet weight range of 55 grains to 115 grains, the 6.5 creed. Is typically 129 to 156 grains both have special ammo a little lighter/heavier. Re-do the test using ammo from the top end weight of the Creed. and you will likely get a different result. There is some crossover use but I haven't used my 243 in forever, I use the 5.56 for smaller game and predator hunts(considering a 22 creed or 224 Valkyrie), jump to the 6.5 creed for pretty much all the medium game deer/black bear and then increase to the new 7mm prc for anything larger. I just like the idea of having the extra range and efficiency when reloading. Nothing wrong with the older calibers or the new as long as everyone is honest about the cartridge as well as their own capabilities.
The 243 was one of the OG mid size killers
I would like to see a 7mm vs 300win mag or 270 vs 3006. Maybe they are more alike then we think?:) But awesome videos you are making on these thanks!
Can you do 6.5 Creedmore and 7mm-08.
I saw the 308 vs 6.5 creedmoor
That swagger bipod is the way!
.243 seemed weaker on the rear impact. The creedmore seems to have carried more impact energy. I hunt with .45-70 or .45 Colt mostly for deer. I just built a 6.5 Grendel though, so may try that out this year. ;)
Took two whitetail this past year with my bear creek 20 inch 6.5 grendel msr. Both at 175 yards with hornady black eld match ammo. Deadly and accurate.
@@Rickkari7 I have that same upper. The one I just built is a 6.5 grendel howa based bolt gun with a Boyd's At-One stock. Pretty sweet. ;)
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👍 Out of hospital and home for now . Should be OK after surgery next week !
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Love my 243 win. 6.5 Creedmoor is becoming a favorite too. That Weatherby rifle is a beaut.
Leaning toward 6.5CM on my lr308 build because of the energy and trajectory out to decent distances, but can't shake the 308 nod either. Can only get one. Can't afford more. Impressed with the 6.5 Grendel in my ar15. Took two deer at 175 yards with that. The CM is a steroid version. Hmmm.... decisions.
What's the convenience at 500 hundred yards between them
One more reply on here and it's a question . What is your most favorite and accurate hunting Bing bang and how tight of a group do you get with it ?
Has anyone ever done a 30-06 vs 7mm mag penetration test like this? Couldn't find anything on TH-cam .. I know most will say 7mm and I would agree,,,,, I think ,,,,but would the 30 cal bullet take longer to stop? Something Ive wondered for a while an sorry to anyone if this was a dumb question , I've owned both but not at the same time, an they did great on deer had very close results but just wondering I guess
I love that .243 rifle! The .270 you have is just as nice!
great video
Thanks for watching Robert
How about The 6.5 Creedmoor VS 6.5x55 Swedish.?
This was a very fun video ! There are holes in all of the milk jugs where Daddy’s bullets went. !! :)))).
👍😊 those were pointed soft noses 🤷♂️ same calibers but light varmint rounds.
I'd like to see the 6mm Creedmoor compared to the .243.
Cool vidja.
Bought my little boy a 6.5 because it’s a little more than a .243.
I used a 1993 Thunderbird to bag two deer. :)
I have a 223 for plinking and varmints, and 300 wsm for big game hunting
Either is an excellent and versatile cartridge. I'm not a huge fan of the .243 but they've been made in millions, and you'll never have problems finding parts, dies, reloading gear and primers for the .243. The Creedmoor is still making its bones. I like the 6.5 bullet better than the 6mm but varmint shooters might prefer the 6mm.
I wanna see the 6.5 PRC VS 6.5 Creedmoor going into Clay, water jugs, cement blocks & gel.
Have you tried 270win? And does it make a difference if you tried 130gr or 145gr.
Yup
Another interesting comparison would the 460 Rowland and 44 Magnum.
Love the milk jug videos
Thanks for watching David
Versus 35 Remington versus the 360 buckhammer
Great video, as always. I bet if that .243 was an 80 grain doing about 3,500 fps it would definitely out perform the 6.5. I am guessing 5 jugs and caught in number 6.
What distance do you use for the jug test?
Can't remember for this one. Usually 100 yds
I would like to see 280 vs. 270 how many water jugs
I'd like to see the 6.5 cm vs 270.... I guess 270 has more powder capacity
243 is all you need👍🤟
I miss the milk jug video’s. Still waiting to see the 338 lapue vs 338 win mag
Still love my .243. Where I live it would be rare to get a shot that needs any more than the .243 would need. South Tennessee is a bit hilly.
Fun video!
Thanks for watching Dennis
Could you please someday do a penetration/damage test comparison of .22 LR lead round nose standard velocity versus .22 LR hollow point high velocity, either on paper plates, clay blocks or milk jugs (or, ideally, all three)? I hypothesize that CCI .22 LR lead round nose standard velocity would penetrate farther than the CCI .22 LR mini mag hollow points, for example. If possible, I think it would be great to compare four different CCI .22 LR loads: the Standard Velocity lead round nose, the Mini Mag copper plated round nose, the Mini Mag hollow points and the Stanger hollow points. I think the the copper plated hollow point Mini Mags will penetrate the farthest, but the Stangers will do the most damage to the front portion of the target. I'm finding a lot of accuracy comparisons but not a lot of penetration/damage comparisons. Thanks.
Hi its johan what about a 303br and a 308 win milk jug challens
How about a 300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby Mag? Curious minds want to know!!
Tried 300 win mag in a video I thing. Very hard to catch the big boys
That 6.5cr. looks just like the footage from the .308 video!
It's hard for me to pick a 6.5 creedmoor when I seen what happened to the 260 and it had a little more velocity than the creedmoor only thing helps it is a 1-8 twist even though I seen a factory 260 that had a 1-8 twist barrel
6.5 has become one of the most popular long range calibers. It's BC is amazing and ammo had become extremely affordable. I am getting boxes of Norma whitetail for 20 a box and have sub MOA accuracy at 100 yards. Take down whitetail great to.
For punching paper I like the creedmoor but i like 7mm's and 30 calibers more for hunting personally bigger wound channels of a 7 mm08 and 308 will put a little more blood on the ground if the deer runs but if a person takes a responsibile shots that they very confident with it doesn't take much to kill a deer my grandpa killed 1 with a 25 colt Jr one time
I have a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 6.5x55 Swedish. It has a 1 in 7.67 twist. It loves the heavier 6.5 bullets. Been shooting 140 grain Nosler Partition in it at 2800+ fps, since 1992. It is beautifully accurate with that load.
Not sure how many deer I lost growing up with 243 but it was enough to sell it and buy 30-06 like my dad had. Just had to many perfectly made shot's and the deer still ran nearly out of the county before being done. Even some of the one's my dad's buddy's would get after with a dog they couldn't believe how far they ran with perfect placement shot's. After several suggestions from fellow deer camp members I joined the aught six get it done camp 👍
You didn’t need a different caliber just different bullets
@@jamesdudley80 wasn't that many options in 1982 , kept the gun for five years and did try some heavier 130's
The differences between the .243 and the 6.5cm aren’t seen in milk jugs eight feet away. They seen at distance.
Now im curious... will whole milk stop bullets better than water...