6.5 Creedmoor VS .308 - How many Milk Jugs???
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- Which one is better??? 6.5 Creedmoor or 308 win???
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No matter what I will always be a 308 person but I like the video you put out about different caliber's
308 is just better
But in a semi auto.
@@chrisgabbert658 AR10 or SOCOM 16.
@@64samsky I made the choice back in 2000 . M1a
308 is great and I agree with the whatever works best for you and your situation is the best deer rifle
If your going to volume shoot, 308 is cheapest. If it’s a deer rifle and only going to see a box of ammo a year then that cost is basically irrelevant and you may as go with the modern cartridge that will make long distance shots a bit easier to adjust for in case that becomes relevant some day. For most people I don’t see it in any way necessary to trade in a rifle they already have to get a new cartridge, the performance difference within the ranges most people shoot just is not a big deal. However if your buying a new rifle because you want a new one or don’t have one, then a modern cartridge with higher BC bullets just makes sense. My wife is fairly new into guns so she got herself a 6.5CM, i however don’t have any rifles in new cartridges, my buck this year was taken with a 112 year old 30-30.
I love a 30-30. That's been the round in my family for a long time. Plenty of deer and bear harvested with it. How far out was your buck? Iron sights or glass?
No.
A necked down 30 TC to 6.5 is not exactly a modern cartridge, the PRCs would fit that description but then they shoot decades old calibers as well, maybe the 6.8 / 277 Fury?
Most deer kills are within 200 yards... there is no difference in bullet drop in that range and the 308 will out do the 6.5 even to 300 yards
You say in Volume .308 is the Cheapest... What you pay in your country if you buy like 50 or 1000 Rounds ?
308 has proven itself for many many years. For its killing power and the access of ammunition.
Correct
That's why I went with the 308 at the end of 2019. My buddies are 30-06 disciples but I could buy ammo when they couldn't at the end of 2021 and beginning of 2022 in Canada.
In ontario 308 is more then enough power. You are lucky to have a 200 yard clear shot in ontario unless u hunt on a farm which 95 percent of people dont its most crown land bush. 30 06 is nice aswell but like i said 200 yards my 308 will drop anything and less recoil and more ammo availability so for me 308 by a long shot
I've been using the 308 since the early 70's, not ever gonna change. Great video.
I like the 7mm-08 and .308 both. I think they are a little more effective on deer than the 6.5.
My big reason why I use the .308 more is ammo availability. I got 3 boxes of Nosler 150 ballistic tips for $66 delivered. That's awesome in this climate.
Sir, if you don't mind me asking, where did you find that ammo? Last year the only thing I could find was 165gr Nosler and a 20rd box was almost $60 after taxes. Honestly I have no idea what the point of aim is because I'm too scared to shoot them.
Agreed!!!
How can you be "more effective" than the deer that are in my freezer from a 6.5? The finite details of ballistics are lost in the pragmatic world of shooting and harvesting. It doesn't particularly matter if the .308 hits harder if your shot placement is alright, which it absolutely should be if you're pulling the trigger at a living creature.
I respect the price point argument. I have a .308 as well for that exact reason.
@@rogeradams9874 I messaged you back once but they must have deleted my message. I got it on the gun auction page GB.
@@garretteggleston7887 kinetic energy is real and does have an effect on terminal performance. The differences might not matter to some but they still exist nonetheless.
Love these videos. Me personally, staying with my 308. Nothing against 6.5, but really new to 308 myself, and don’t want to get into a new caliber. 🤷
The 308 has a bigger diameter upon expansion and the bullet stayed together. I see that as an absolute win for 308. Great video!!! Appreciate the effort.
Let's not forget other advantages of .308 like it's a common caliber and the less powerful 7.62x51 NATO will shoot from the same rifle.
Plus the .308 had more energy at that range.
I've always been an 30-06 fan but I recently past couple couple years purchased a 6.5 Creedmoor ammo is pretty cheap 20 30bucks a box. I also harvested my buck with it this fall an 8pt 182.8lbs field dressed and it instantly knocked his lights out. I pulled the freedom lever and he hit the ground never kicked never flopped.
Got my biggest buck to date with a 6.5 creedmoor. I used to neglect it but I started loving it recently😂 but if I’m not using my 6.5 I’m using my 308
I love em' both
@@Brandenuzis it's got the speed and accuracy down pact but I'm still iffy on the knock down power even though it dropped my buck but a well placed shot to the heart from any caliber will do that.
I've take a deer at about 30 40 yards dropped right there also got a yote with it last fall at probably 100 yards and did the same thing. But I'm wondering how it works on bigger thicker skinned animals such as bear and moose
6.5 creed has been a deer killer for me. Had really good luck with it. I do a ton of reasearch on different bullets and their performance. The bullet is the key factor in any caliber.
Well said. It took me a few decades of shooting to come to the same conclusion. I look for bullet design and construction always, for different purposes. Caliber is almost inconsequential, within the same basic purposes.
A great test WTW!! I've always loved the .308 there are those in the western states that love that 6.5 Creedmoor for it's flat shooting across long distances. Got some pretty good knock down power too. Thanks brother, have a great night!!
Love the 308 for overall “jack of all trade” performance, affordability, and availability!!! But also I Love these test! Keep them coming! 👍
The 308 will knock down anything in the western hemisphere. I have used it for 40+ years and have never lost game.
Love to see you getting a video out that’s back to the WTW basics. I’ve missed the milk jugs.
Great vid! This is my favorite test too! Thanks for the work you put in too make this videos!
Would love to see the jug test done with the 360 buckhammer vs 30/30 wink wink.
Stay tuned
Best comment so far!
Make it the 360 Buckhammer vs 30/30 vs 350 Remington. 😉😉 Edited: Sorry guys, I meant 35 Remington, sorry if I caused any confusion. Usually I catch my typo's before I post, but not this time. (Insert embarrased face)
Read my mind
360 vs 30-30 vs 35 rem
Great return of the water jug test and a great head to head of older vs. newer. My caliber for a bolt rifle is the .308, but I love these head to heads! I guessed 5 for each one by the way.
I have both the 6.5 and the .308. Love them both. I love these water jug tests too. They really make for fun videos, especially with the slo mo cam. The more videos like this one we watch, the more we realize that bullet construction (copper vs lead) has more effect on penetration than caliber and velocity. I did like how clean those mushrooms were and man do those jugs ever blow up nicely. Good job once again.
Do a 260 rem and 6.5 needmor comparison. They shot the same bullet and can get both in 140 grain or 125 grain.
First off I always love your videos and always watch. That being said my favorite 6.5CM video was the comparison Mr Ron Spomer did comparing the ballistics of the good ol faithful 270 Win to that of the 6.5CM. The 270 is my all time favorite and dominates all ballistics categories except BC out to a 1000 yards.
As always love this video and all of them. So keep em comin'.
Awesome jug test! Appreciate how hard you work to do these Adam
Man, you're a dedicated dude when it comes to making a good, informative video! I've waited for this one for a long time, since I shoot .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor.
Appreciate you watching
Great videos as always
Taken many deer and hogs with a 6.5 Creed. And anytime I’ve been able to retrieve the projectile, the jacket was separated from the lead core. Still very effective.
Thanks for the laughs and the memory`s with the safety flinch ! Great video too ! I just put together tw0 AR10`s one in 6.5 CM and one in .308 , can`t wait to shot both !!
Awesome stuff. Really like these videos. It would be cool to see different projectiles in the same round against jugs or paper plates. Like a solid copper vs a lead core bullet or whatever. Just to see the difference in projectile performance.
Nice to see some classic WTW action! for hunting and ranges less than 3-400 the 308 definitely is king. I’m just getting into long range precision stuff and the 6.5 is great for that, though there are better ones nowadays. It seems like there’s a new cartridge every week but that’s part of the fun!
Thanks for the video I love the milk jug videos!!
Thank you for doing these videos. I really enjoy them. I have relatives that live near where you shoot and as a funny side note, when you do these tests they often will call and say, "be watching the Ytube, Hoot is out testing again." LOL They are avid outdoors people so, no worries, they enjoy hearing what you are doing.
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Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Got a 6.5 Creedmoor Ruger American with a Magpul Hunter stock. Also have a .308 Win Desert Tech MDRX. I enjoy shooting both of them. The rifles are different. But I do enjoy spending time outdoors shooting ANY of my firearms at targets. I look forward to doing a Central California hog hunt with either or both rifles. Might take my other Ruger American rifles too!
It is always entertaining and informative watching Adam shoot any firearm, in any circumstance. Adam just has sooooo much enthusiasm and such a friendly presentation. I hope we are lucky enough for many more years of these physics experiments and presentations!
That 6.5 was not a willing participant in the milk jug study. Excellent results with both rounds, great video. Thank you, Adam, for putting in all your time and effort to make great videos. PS, you drink a lot of milk.🐄
I'm laughing my butt off you know you got Hickok45 shaking his head saying to himself that good old Kentucky math! Man I love you videos
This was a Fun video.. that slow motion explosion footage is awesome
Great stuff mate!
Ba ha ha. Thanks I needed this video tonight.
I have to say that slowmo shot when the camera fell over was the best I think.
I think trying to 100% understand bullet physics is impossible.
You want to see a very odd set of results check out the hand loads on autumn's armory I will have to say if the same results didn't happen more then once I would have thought it a fluke. It still could have been but a lot less likely.
You videos are the best. Keep it real!!!
Thanks for watching Brian
I have both 6.5 Creedmoor and .308 and I preferred to hunt with the 6.5 Creedmoor over both of my .308's.
Thanks for your hard work
Appreciate you watching
I originally wanted a 7mm08 but at the time I bought my creedmoor 2020 the only ammo we had in any of our stores was a few random calibers and a ton of 6.5 creedmoor. I'm not at all disappointed with it. It does what I need it to do. I'd like to get my hands on a 6.8 western or a 7prc. Keep hearing good things about bolth of them.
Another cracking video , I hit the Like button ! So Go on You guys it doesn't cost anything and YT use it to rate videos so it's important to channels like this or they get poor promotion from YT . Thanks Adam . Catch You next episode , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
Thanks for watching Richars
Awesome video I hunt with a 308 and my pastor I hunt with uses a 6.5 creedmore. Both awesome rifles.
Great comparison WTW! I like the 6.5 but I will always be a .308 kinda guy!
Thank you for your honesty
Thanks for watching
Great video WTW..!!!! Both calibers are great, I'll keep my 308, it's never let me down.....
Good stuff. Oldie but goodie
There he goes shooting things up. Fun.
Will my favorite is a 30 cal preciate it WTW keep up the good work
I love the milk jug test !
I love the milk jugs videos. You should also do this with that Buckhammer round.
Stay tuned
id love to see a comparison with a 147 grain 6.5 and a 150 grain 308
I've had and still have many different calibers. I was a skeptic of the 6.5 creedmoor before shooting it, but personally, I like the 6.5 a little bit more. Especially past the 500 yard mark. Either way, if a person's happy with their rifle, be happy.
😂 ok, you may be WHO_TEE-WHO, but I tootie-too-ded while I watched this
308 for me no matter what the difference.
You got the sniffles mate, Is it Spring over there now you must have got yourself some hayfever.
Really cool video I love the 308 myself
I admire your persistence. 😆
I'm still a 30-30 45-70 30-06 man. They always got me deer
Both fantastic. You all sure have short winters. Seeing that it is February and it's sunny and green. We just came out of sub-zero temps and we have plenty of snow still on ground up here....just messing with you. Thanks
65 degrees here today
@@SA-hh9mv Almost Canada. We live within an hour to an hour and some change from either Lake Michigan or Lake Superior. It is absolutely beautiful here year round. Regardless of the season we are simply surrounded by beauty. The body easily acclimates to the winter cold. We are out in it even in below zero temps in work and leisure. Folk just dress appropriately to the temps.
Really fun video!
Cool video, thanks for the work. I'm a .308 guy.
Great video.
308 and thanks for the video Adam
For an all-rounder hunting/ target shooter I picked the .308. Twice the barrel life, cheaper ammo. I settled around 165-168gr bullet for everything up to 800 meters.
Very close comparison. Wonder if there would be much different results if both were FMJ? Good vid WTW
Over my lifetime, I've taken most of my deer with a .308 win .
In regards to the 6.5 Creedmoor, my experiences are limited to apx a dozen deer.
In my limited history with the 6.5 Creedmoor, I cannot tell any difference between how it performs in comparison to the .308 win.
To be clear, I dont feel undergunned when hunting with the 6.5 creedmoor and its low recoil is a bonus.
As a reloader, I will always own a .308 win, but I've gathered enough 6.5 brass to keep my rifle in ammo for my my lifetime.
Hope you get over you cold soon. I love my .308, all my rifle deer have been with it but one. Never had to track one. I can't buy a lot of guns so did my research. Came up with the .308, no regrets.
Gotta Catch Em All!!! haha...great video. I love both my .308 ...and when I feel a bit frisky, I put on my man bun and shoot my 6.5! In all seriousness, I like both, but can stay on the scope and trace my misses (and the misses are me...not the gun) with the 6.5 Creedmoor
Lmao man you had a few difficulties huh. Great video
Thanks for watching scott
Thanks for the video WTW. I believe for the average hunter it is hard to beat the 308 win out to 300 yards.
Correct
No mater how many attempts but you sir got it done hats of to you
Very interesting. BTW get gel cups for your ear protectors, they are good.
Another great video. Awesome test, I guessed 5 by the way.
I think you should of included a 7-08 caliber in this test
308 all day long!
I got one those American Predators in .308win and it's a Tack Driver and 18" perfect length. My buddy has one too and it's just as good
125gr is a light Creedmoor round, and 1000yds is easy with it. When I want a 1000yd challenge, I use the .308 playing in the wind. Which one is better depends on what you're using it for and at what distance. Sectional density is higher on Creedmoor, so it will drive deeper with comparable weight bullets.
Gotta love a milk jug video!!
The good old milk jug test. I am a 30-06 guy because that's all I have and old 12 gage I got from my grandfather both in great shape for their age. But I like these tests almost as much as the clay blocks videos. Keep up the great content WTW cheers from Canada 🍻
Both are tried and true
Video reminds me of the old days of Who Tee Who videos..... Except you didn't forget to chamber a round...😂
I have been using a 6.5 creedmoor 140 gr sp and have taken deer from 125 out to 275 and none went further than 30 yds most dropped in their tracks I use a Ruger American with a Boyd stock used a 308 before using 6.5cm and results about the same with less recoil
I like what your are doing, I’m been your subscriber for... I don’t know how long.
I just like to se the waters jogs and the clay targets shot at distance of 100 yards. Something more according with a real shooting distance of a deer.
I’m sorry for asking this but I’m from Colorado and anything les than 100 yards is almost impossible, or at least that’s been my experience.
Changed barrels from a proof carbon 6.5mm to a bartlein .30 last minute on a custom rifle. Had it chambered for 308 win, and don’t regret it one bit.
I love that you didn’t edit out everything that went wrong 😅
Nice video comparing these two. However, the 125 grain bullet in the 6.5 is light. For penetration testing, you need to compare equal weight bullets. The 6.5 can go as high as 160 grains, so a better comparison would be with 150 grain bullets in each. A secondary testing could be of efficiency of the cartridges. For that you can use 140 - 145 grain 6.5's compared to 165 - 168 grain 308's.
Ballistic coefficient is essentially meaningless in light weight bullets. It's a number that indicates how well the bullet hangs on to its launch speed. Light bullets "peter out" quick.
I like the 6.5 Creedmoor, but at its core, it's a short action 6.5x55 Swede, just like the 308 is a short action 30-06. I call them "kissing cousins" - same family, same general characteristics, individual differences.
For a more equal test you should have shot a more equal bullet weight (147 or 143 out of the 6.5)
That's one way to compare, but I think each caliber is designed around a particular bullet weight. For .308, I think that is around 150 grains. For 6.5, which is necked down, I think it was designed for a lighter bullet. So, comparing the different but designed-for weights is a legit comparison.
@@mojoman2001 not really. The 6.5 was designed to shoot multiple weights. From 120 to 147. Most people I know shoot 140 or 143.
That as a very fun video!
Both are good calibers but like me and 1 of my friends had this discussion today and where we Hunt a 308 is better for us because most shots is a 100 yards or less for longer ranges the 6.5 is better but its at ranges past what we shoot
Good job WtW!
Thanks for watching James
Well my dear Watson.. looks like we have another case of the magic bullet simply dissolved into thin water . . 😉 😜
I think a ghost was pushing your camera over. LOL.
So glad you don't edit the bloopers
It seems like a lot of people always want to prove that some other or newer round is better than the .308. We've seen it before and we'll probably see it again. When you factor in cost and the fact that .308 is usually much easier to get, it makes the .308 a no brainer. Now, if you're doing some long range target shooting, sure, the 6.5 Creedmoor is probably a better round for that purpose but if you're looking to go deer hunting or something similar, the old .308 is just fine. BTW, there was a lot of talk when the 6.5 was beginning to pick up steam a few years back that the 6.5 may not be powerful enough to humanely take a large animal without possibly causing unnecessary suffering. The results here are nothing we can really go by but we see the 6.5 is smaller and ended up coming apart while the .308 did what is is designed to do.
@notsosilentmajority1 Good points. I will stick with .308. In regards to 6.5cm, I've seen too many instances of lost game or having to track wounded animals long distances with supposedly perfect shots - so they end up going back to another caliber to hunt with. When I go to the range, seems like the 6.5cm fanboys are always trying to convince everyone how awesome it is. Gets annoying. Yeah, 6.5cm may be better at hitting paper at distance, but not better than .308 at hunting game. When hunting deer, if a bear comes at me, I'll take my .308 and put it down, while the 6.5cm fanboys with their man-buns will grab their man-purses and hurriedly run away.
@@icerman855
I have to agree with you. I also like to consider the fact that the .308/7.62x51 is in the US military arsenal and that means it is in great supply. I try to stick with the calibers that the US military uses in great numbers. Just in case............
I've seen the same trend. I follow some hog hunters in tx that claim the creedmoor let them down to many times, and the .308 never fails them. Now that's not to say some don't do just as good or better with the creedmoor, I like them both myself. Fact is the .308 is a proven hog hammer.
@@coup5oh
I agree. Let's not forget that the .308 is usually cheaper and is much more plentiful too. Happy hog hunting brother.
The coolest!
It's a toss up for me. I like the 308 - but I also enjoy the water jugs and the clay
Now I gotta go over to Rumble and watch it all over!
Can you please tell us what brand of ammunition you were using? The 6.5CM was disappointing with the jacket separation.
I like the CM for a lite rifle when i am doing a lot walking and stalking. But if I am doing a lot of slinging led then use my ar 10 and its a 308
Great video how bout a paper plate test with 6.5 creed . 6.5 prc and 6.5 rpm
I laughed hard at the memes about the 6.5cm when it was mass marketed. 🤣
Prefer 30.06 Springfield over the .308 Winchester. For a short action rifle I’d choose the 6.5 Creedmoor. Lower recoil, more efficient, versatile, aerodynamic high BC bullets, and it’s popular and affordable. You can hunt everything on up to elk sized game with it so it gets my vote. 6.5PRC looks pretty sweet though!
But, I’ll hunt and shoot my 30.06 Springfield with quality high BC bullets, thread for a muzzle brake, and keep my shots under 400YDS. Just want to fill my freezer with venison, and work on some good reloads. Would love a 6.5 Grendel bolt gun for deer hunting though. 🤙🏼