What Is Daiwa's Magseal? (And Is It Worth It???)
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What exactly is Daiwa's 'Magseal' technology they use in saltwater fishing reels?
Is it worth paying for?
Daiwa creates some of the best inshore saltwater spinning reels, but some have Magseal technology and others do not!
Magseal is Daiwa's proprietary ferrofluid that protects the inner workings of their spinning reels through science!!
Here are links to the reels mentioned in this video:
- Daiwa Fuego LT 2500-XH: bit.ly/33iKABo
- Daiwa BG MQ 3000 & 6000: bit.ly/3lUUMGx
What are your thoughts on Daiwa's Magseal?
Let us know your questions down in the comments below!
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Here are links to the reels mentioned in this video:
- Daiwa Fuego LT 2500-XH: bit.ly/33iKABo
- Daiwa BG MQ 3000 & 6000: bit.ly/3lUUMGx
Going on year 3 with my daiwa fuego, only problem Ive had was having to add the plastic washers because the line wasn't spooling evenly. Never serviced them other than spraying down with fresh water after use and both reels still feel like they're brand new.
Great Video thanks. Ive had a Daiwa BG Magseal 6000 for a year now and needs service, i can not buy Mag fluid in my country (South Africa) i wish i knew that before i bought the reel as i need to send the reel across the country to get serviced at quite a cost, Daiwa should clearly state this to people before they buy their reels, if Daiwa made the Fero fluid available for reatail i would buy more Magseel products but unfortunately i wont now. And i speak for 1000s of fisherman. Replaced BG with Saragosa 6000 now and i can service and get parts to my house, much more cost efective and practical. If Daiwa changes this and sell fluid in small quantities firstly their reel sales will sky rocket and ill also start using their reels again. I will not be funnled and controlled by a drop of oil :)
You can buy ferrofluid with a sintetic base oil that is used for various other purposes, Daiwa will not sell theyr "original" in purpose, but is far from something unobtainable
Search the internet for Ferrotech oil and you will probably find it in your country, supposedly this company that makes the oil for Daiwa itself, since there is only a handfull of companies that make that kind of specific ferrofluid. Most times you will find ferrofluid oils that are used for sound systems, I'm using this kind of oil sold at other aftermarkets, used it in my Daiwa Caldia CS LT and I could see no difference in the stuff
@@mmacionk2 thank you. Very helpful.
I have Fuego Lt 2500 magsealed which felt in saltwater together with rod,after that reel was not the same,even when come home and clear it litle bit and easy flash it with few drops of fresh water, I want to service it ,but could not do it because of magseal oil,also I contact the store where I purchase it ,to send it to service,interesting is the answer from store, that they send it to other country for service because Daiwa has no service in our country,and the cost for the sending it and for the service will be like buying new reel,so for sure I will not buy again any magseal reel,and about using ferofluid from aftermarket not from Daiwa is no option because You do not know the specs for magseal used in Daiwa reels and what I read online that aftermarket oil last shorter and not the same as original. What I do not understand is,why Daiwa does not want to sell original magseal oil,as this oil is essential part of reel same as other reel parts ,and let people decide will they buy original oil or they will in future avoid this kind of things. I use a lot Fuego reel, and eventualy the reel will fail,so what to do,when it fails? Throw it ,and buy new one? I will not buy again for sure this kind of reel with magseal oil, I have search for months info about what to do for magseal oil,there is info online about aftermarket oil but it is not worth even a try.
Epic. Thanks for the insight Justin.
magseal is nice, but...i have one reel with a broken bearing shaft for oscillations gear, it is integrated in aluminium body. I wanted to order body part from Daiwa but they refuse to send it (even i have no guarantee ), due the fact that is magsealed reel and to replace i can kill that. It makes no sense to pay so much as new reel cost only 130 usb. Thre are many places in the world where no daiwa service and thre is no need in guarantee repair
Thanks for the feedback!
I love my bg 2500 have used it for 3 years now without issue from jigging in the gulf for snapper to jigging for Great Lakes walleye.
Can I add general oil to the bearings on the side cover pivot shaft?
Is it possible (just asking) after 2years of hard fishing, that Mag Seal oil "run out or gets worn out"...we are talking about Certate '20, 4000 size! Thank you for your answer :) (sorry for my bad english)
Thank you for stating that you cannot buy ferro fluid
i was considering buying one of these type reels
but will not be doing so now .
@Dave, I agree. A part or item YOU can't fix or replace, no thanks. 🤣 You can block contaminantes with grease and will always be a standard. It's a good idea short term but in the long run fails. People have reported leakage and failures on these reels.
Great video, thanks!
Thank you!
My only gripe about the Fuego is no matter how tight you tighten down the reel it's still got some play on the rod.. talking fresh water use on steelhead rods. Other then having to shim the handle there great
Thanks for sharing!
Great video Justin. I thought the new saltist MQ also contained magseal fluid. Is the correct?
Yes that is correct. It's a nice feature to have, but with MQ level of physical sealing, you already have excellent sealing, so I think Magseal is just an added benefit.
On the Fuego at the price point you don't have to worry about ever servicing the mag seal
...by the time it matters you can just get another reel ....
Thanks for the feedback
I wish my story was the same bout this specific reel getting wet and not having problems 😮💨 mine started clicking hard when I’d hook on a fish. I was going to try and take apart to clean but might be better just to send for service!
Probably best to send it in, so avoid any issues if it's still under warranty.
I own 2 3000 Fuegos and 2 4000 Fuegos..never had issues with them...smooth as it can be..
Let's see the Exist in action 🎣🤙🤙
Can you use vaseline around the body to prevent water penetrating?
GRACIAS
I bought a 4000 Fuego fish pulled it over the Pier in the water I got it back obviously rinsed it and oiled the spool shaft and where the handle attaches to the reel..... now it sounds like garbage and reverse isn't working..... I plan to send it in...... also I've used the reel 3 times total
glad I send back the Fuego back and bought the legalis. no huge difference is guess.. 10:30
a little bit of line got wraped around the bottom of the rotor on my new fuego. when i unraveled the line, some mag seal liquid residue was on the line. Should i replace the liquid or am i good?
You are likely okay to continue to use the reel as is. Just make sure everything is correctly snug and in place before hitting the water!
Fascinating
@salt Strong Hello, is it true that Mag Sealed dries out after 2 years if you don't use the reel??
Thank you for your question! We have a massive library of fishing tips on our website along with a search feature to let you quickly filter down to find help you're looking for, so just go to www.saltstrong.com/ and use the Search feature in the top menu.
Hi Justin. I remember your work with Star Rods. I am debating on investing in the 7'6 and 8'0 Plasma 2s. Are they lightweight yet strong enough to handle fishing from piers an jetties for flounder, striper and tog? Would be pairing with twinpower xd on Mediums and Van staal vr 50 and vr 75 on medium heavy and heavy.
The Plasma II 8'0 12-25 would be the bare minimum I would use on a VR 50, personally. At least for the type of fishing you're doing.
With a rubber all around the side plate it will be almost waterproof.
Waiting for the 2500 Fuego xh to come back in stock
Same here Brother! A lot of us are. It's a tough item to get in stock right now. But personally, I'd go with the BG MQ if you can muster the difference in cost. The sealing used in the MQ series is substantially better than a Fuego, and they don't even incorporate Magseal in their BG MQ. That's what I'm currently rocking right now.
@@Jritchey1211 The BGMQ looks like a good reel. I just wish the 2500 size had a tiny bit more IPT. And at double the price will I get double the longevity? I could get two Fuego's for the price of one BGMQ. Appreciate your videos, the club and the insider community info.
@@FishingwiththeOz to answer your question, it's tough to say right now. The BGMQ has only been on the market for ~18 months (only 8 months with the smaller sizes). But based on the MQ concept and where those seals are located, I think its fair to argue that the BGMQ will far outlast a Fuego under the same conditions.
@@Jritchey1211 I ended up buying the 3000 BGMQ XH. On top of the member discount I also had a $30 credit from a member referral so the total price was too good to pass up. I paired it with a Bull Bay Stealth Sniper Medium - Fast Action Spinning Rod. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
@@FishingwiththeOz awesome! Happy to help out!
Great information
Hello, Thanks for ur vids, i have any question, can i me buy magsealed oil for my Daiwa reel from Daiwa company? Daiwa sale this oil directly?
5：50Is this accessory washable? What can I use to clean it?
Cool thanks
thanks.. i almost buy fuego.. back to bg :)
Enjoy it! Keep us posted on how you like it!
Thank you so much really for the information, i just bought a Daiwa Legalis and i know its not meg sealed as Fuego but is it ok to use the legalis in salt water fishing?
You can use any reel for saltwater, just do proper maintenance after exposure.
Genuine question. Unlike you I'm not a DIY expert. I have a couple of European Daiwa mag sealed reels now discontinued (Cast izm 25 QDA).
I think it's just the main body that is sealed. If I ignore the Magseal will it damage the reel. I mean I only use it in freshwater so I'm not too worried about ingress.
Or will it damage the reel in general if I ignore the magseal. Hear no evil. See no evil. 😂
Hey salt strong! What line was on that Fuego that you showed off in the video? Also what color, Thankyou!
Thanks for your question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community
where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: bit.ly/33jbyZD
So if you will upgrade a reel. Go to the MQ technology of daiwa reel?
Great question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: bit.ly/33jbyZD
buy a shimano*
@@fsh7583 then throw it out and buy a Daiwa again
Hey Salt strong, quick question: I wanted to record a short video on Daiwa reels in my own language I would like to use some of the stuff from Your video. Is it ok If I do that that? I will use a link to your channel in my video of course. Please let me know.
Please email your request into fish@saltstrong.com. Thanks!
why not just make brass anti reverse parts
Not sure...That'd be a question for Daiwa!
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All good but water will seep in from that anti reverse entrance and go into the anti reverse..once that happens you better pray they have your anti reverse clutch in stock.. the lesson? Don't dunk it in water 💦💦
Do not fix something that is still working, do not over oil🎉 fish dont care about the reel 😂
One word “Penn”.
2 words: "No Magseal". Haha. In all seriousness, Penn does a great job with their physical seals on their products. I have owned Slammer IIIs and Spinfisher VIs in the past, and with the exception of an axial bearing going bad on the Slammer III (likely due to water damage around the Anti-Reverse clutch), they were great products.
Another word “heavy”
In southern California we always rinse all salt water gear with a hose on the front lawn at the end of the day. Simple solution.