I'm really appreciating these videos. My dad was a pilot and I have some experience, but I just started my PPL journey. The CFI I have seems to be uninterested in a serious pre-flight check, and we've done no clearing turns before maneuvering, AND he'll be checking his phone while having me do things. It's been shocking because I know enough to know I don't feel safe with him. Looking forward to my third lesson with a different CFI...
Josh, one tip you did not mention was the frequent use of trim adjustments, or at least that is what it looked like. You may want to explain a little more since I expect it is a good aid in maintaining altitude in this high task saturation maneuver. Good video.
This is very helpful Josh! I was working on S Turns and Turns Around a Point yesterday and today. I was struggling a bit yesterday but was much more consistent today thanks to your instruction. Check ride is scheduled for December 16. Hoping to fly away as PIC. Thanks for all these great free training videos!!
@@FreePilotTraining Hi Josh, just wanted to give a quick update. I had my practical exam on Dec 17th. I aced the oral portion of the exam, 2.5 hours. The examiner complimented my preparedness. Your channel played a big part in my success! I have watched and rewatched lessons here and your videos really helped me to understand a lot of the more difficult concepts. I ended up having to take a discontinuance. I went through the pre-flight and when I was in run up my attitude indicator started misbehaving. Although that instrument is not required for day VFR per 91.205, the examiner asked me what I thought I should do given the gauge wasn't functioning correctly. I told him that I thought we should discontinue. It seemed to me it would be challenging to complete maneuvers like steep turns, recovery from unusual attitudes and flying by reference to instruments without a functioning attitude indicator. He agreed and noted good ADM on my discontinuance letter. He is looking for a date in January for me to complete the flight portion of the exam. Thank you for all of your help!!
Picking lined points is probably my #1 key trick with this. Dont pick things like thin railroads, bendy roads, if you can, try powerlines!! In my practice area theres a very nice long line of visible powerlines many students pick for S turns and Lazy Eights.
Good job Josh. How are you able to tell if your S turn is pretty equal on each side? Is it showing on an instrument or iPad? How would the instructor evaluate it? Thanks Josh!
You should be able to tell if your “S” is the same size from the airplane, but ForeFlight is a great tool that can be used to see exactly how good your s-turn really was
Excellent Job Josh , I love your channel. Quick question . how do you calculate height and switch back and forth from MSL to AGL. what is the mathematical formula?
Thank you! First, find the elevation in that area. Towers are a good way to do that because the VFR sectional shows their height in AGL and MSL. For example a tower that is 1000 MSL and 400 AGL means that the elevation is 600 feet. If I want to fly 600 feet AGL I simply add 600 to the elevation in that area. So 1,200 MSL
What you make me a better pilot! More video and reading the book but one on one personal training! 😅❤! I am a more of hands on than book smart. If you have any labor work like drywall or maybe painting. I'll do trade for trade!
Excellent video Josh. You really have a great way of explaining things so people understand them. Keep up the excellent work. Safe skies my friend 🇺🇸🛩️
I know that i asked this question before in relative to "turn at the point", you did answered it but i am a little bit confused. I saw that you were adjusting power in this maneuver, is that allowed? I was having difficulties maintaining attitude on my turn around the point maneuver but immediately i applied your tricks on that video, it was perfect 👌 but my cfi says that the examiner will see that as cheating.
Great question. Yes, it IS allowed. Check the Airman Certification Standards. Should you be adjusting power? Not really. It makes it more difficult. In the video, the wind is extremely gusty and I had to adjust my power because my airspeed was getting blasted by the wind gusts. I adjusted my power to keep myself within limits.
The reason I guessed that (wrong) was that right-handed motorcycle riders are usuallu more comfortable with left turns (me included) while left-handed prefer right turns. Anyway, thanks for a great video! Cheers.
S turns are too easy and what you practice is done on Turns Around a Point. I taught Flyover Turnbacks instead. My DPE liked them and enjoyed them too. At Vglide speed with 10 degrees flaps. Try them, you will like them too. S turns are too lame. It is Mild Maneuvering GRM.
Well, it doesn’t matter how I feel about them, they are a maneuver that is required to be taught to student pilots. I’ll have to try the Flyover Turnbacks
@@FreePilotTraining GRM Turnbacks are used to practice for Box Canon Turnbacks and EFATO/LOTOT Turnbacks. Also help for Short Approaches, and low weather circlings Turnbacks. Many accidents by doing them wrong way. DPE will be impressed.
@@FreePilotTraining Try the Flyover Teardrop Turnback first. With flaps 10 and Vglide speed. Better practice over a simulated runway section, flyover it, then Teardrop Turnback to fly over again. Always plan to align with a headwind, avoid tailwind alignments. So if crosswind, after flyover you turn away from the crosswind on first leg of the teardrop, then turn headwind to align on the second leg. Have fun.
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 If it's too easy then you probably don't need these videos, they are for student pilots like me trying to learn. Doesnt matter how easy it is, I need to learn to do this properly to get my pilot license.
@@FreePilotTraining I was a student of the Emergencylowmaneuvering CFI in 1996. At the beginning i didnt want to learn turnbacks due "I might not need this maneuver at at all". But then i saw many accidents on those maneuvers by doing them wrong. Not only on EFATO, but also on badly done Box canyon Turns which ARE TURNBACKS too. And those circlings turnbacks after flying almost over the runway at 400 agl, but then have to turnback to land on opposite due winds. Many accidents by "I dont think i will need that maneuver at all guys". And many by pilots with thousands of hours but dont know turnbacks.
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I'm really appreciating these videos. My dad was a pilot and I have some experience, but I just started my PPL journey. The CFI I have seems to be uninterested in a serious pre-flight check, and we've done no clearing turns before maneuvering, AND he'll be checking his phone while having me do things. It's been shocking because I know enough to know I don't feel safe with him. Looking forward to my third lesson with a different CFI...
Good on you for getting a new CFI! I’ve thought about making a video discussing this!
Josh, one tip you did not mention was the frequent use of trim adjustments, or at least that is what it looked like. You may want to explain a little more since I expect it is a good aid in maintaining altitude in this high task saturation maneuver. Good video.
Great point! Thank you!
Good tip
The ultimate way of insuring a clear area for these maneuvers is have a friend at the center issue a TFR for you. 😂
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This is very helpful Josh! I was working on S Turns and Turns Around a Point yesterday and today. I was struggling a bit yesterday but was much more consistent today thanks to your instruction. Check ride is scheduled for December 16. Hoping to fly away as PIC. Thanks for all these great free training videos!!
You’re welcome! So glad I could help! Let me know how that check ride goes!
@@FreePilotTraining Hi Josh, just wanted to give a quick update. I had my practical exam on Dec 17th. I aced the oral portion of the exam, 2.5 hours. The examiner complimented my preparedness. Your channel played a big part in my success! I have watched and rewatched lessons here and your videos really helped me to understand a lot of the more difficult concepts. I ended up having to take a discontinuance.
I went through the pre-flight and when I was in run up my attitude indicator started misbehaving. Although that instrument is not required for day VFR per 91.205, the examiner asked me what I thought I should do given the gauge wasn't functioning correctly. I told him that I thought we should discontinue. It seemed to me it would be challenging to complete maneuvers like steep turns, recovery from unusual attitudes and flying by reference to instruments without a functioning attitude indicator. He agreed and noted good ADM on my discontinuance letter. He is looking for a date in January for me to complete the flight portion of the exam.
Thank you for all of your help!!
Thank you Josh for this FREE explanation for S-Turns
You’re welcome!
Picking lined points is probably my #1 key trick with this. Dont pick things like thin railroads, bendy roads, if you can, try powerlines!! In my practice area theres a very nice long line of visible powerlines many students pick for S turns and Lazy Eights.
Love the tip! Thanks for the comment!
Best explanation ever! Thank you for all the efforts you put to help us understand, and for Free!!! You’re the best!
You’re welcome!
Thank you very much. I realy hate doing these...
You’re welcome!
Great videos, really well done. They make you aware and want to know more... The comments are great too.
Just started training and you are helping me a lot with your videos, thank you!!!
Awesome! You’re welcome
So helpful being able to see what this looks like from the inside, looking out, before getting into the plane!
Awesome! So glad the video was helpful
Awesome! Thank you Josh! this videos are really good training.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Good job Josh. How are you able to tell if your S turn is pretty equal on each side? Is it showing on an instrument or iPad? How would the instructor evaluate it? Thanks Josh!
You should be able to tell if your “S” is the same size from the airplane, but ForeFlight is a great tool that can be used to see exactly how good your s-turn really was
Excellent presentation. Thanks
You’re welcome!
just another Awesine lesson Thank You
Thanks Mike!
Excellent Job Josh , I love your channel. Quick question . how do you calculate height and switch back and forth from MSL to AGL. what is the mathematical formula?
Thank you! First, find the elevation in that area. Towers are a good way to do that because the VFR sectional shows their height in AGL and MSL. For example a tower that is 1000 MSL and 400 AGL means that the elevation is 600 feet. If I want to fly 600 feet AGL I simply add 600 to the elevation in that area. So 1,200 MSL
love the videos! you shouldve put your flight track on atthe end to show how crisp those turns were
thanks! I thought about that after the fact! It would’ve definitely made the video better
@@FreePilotTraining lol no worries still a great video and informative. Cant wait to use these tricks when i get back up in the air again
It’s hard to find a reference line perpendicular to the wind. What would be like when there’s cross wind?
What you make me a better pilot! More video and reading the book but one on one personal training! 😅❤! I am a more of hands on than book smart. If you have any labor work like drywall or maybe painting. I'll do trade for trade!
If you are in Alaska, I’ll take you up on that lol
Are commercial maneuvers on the horizon soon?
They’re coming, but it might be a while. I’m hoping to have more time to really start making more videos more regularly
Eventually!
@Navy1977 chandells, lazy eights, eights on pylons
Excellent video Josh. You really have a great way of explaining things so people understand them. Keep up the excellent work. Safe skies my friend 🇺🇸🛩️
Thanks Kevin! I appreciate that!
@@FreePilotTraining are you going to be around for Thunder Over The Rock? I am planning on taking my wife and kids to it.
Thanks, another great video 👍
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
The shirt is so cool, I've got to get my hands on one!
😆 it’s a good one. I think I got it at Rural King
Thanks! Is there a reason why you keep on playing with the trim?
No problem! If you trim the control pressures off, the plane is much easier to control with precision
@@FreePilotTraining thank you!
All the videos I need are popping up
Awesome
thanks!
You’re welcome!
I know that i asked this question before in relative to "turn at the point", you did answered it but i am a little bit confused. I saw that you were adjusting power in this maneuver, is that allowed? I was having difficulties maintaining attitude on my turn around the point maneuver but immediately i applied your tricks on that video, it was perfect 👌 but my cfi says that the examiner will see that as cheating.
Great question. Yes, it IS allowed. Check the Airman Certification Standards. Should you be adjusting power? Not really. It makes it more difficult. In the video, the wind is extremely gusty and I had to adjust my power because my airspeed was getting blasted by the wind gusts. I adjusted my power to keep myself within limits.
@@FreePilotTraining thanks for your wonderful input
Im a new student pilot and 700 feet AGL sounds really low? I thought all manuevers had to be done at a minimum of 1500ft AGL incase of a stall?
No. You must recover from stalls by 1,500 ft AGL. This maneuver must be done at 600-1000 AGL. Take a look at the Airplane Flying Handbook
Thank you Thank you, my check ride is Monday, you have been a big help, thank you
You’re welcome!
Need emergencies !! Fire/failure/wing fire
I’ll start writing the script for engine failure. Might be a month or so before I can knock it out
Are they still requiring S turn along a road?
Yes. You have to perform one of the three ground reference maneuvers
@@FreePilotTraining I forgot how those were done. Maybe next show that demonstration in another video.
I still think it’s much easier and more reliable to use the section lines as aim points
Yeah, those work well. A lot of states don’t have great section line markings though
Like#800, I will call this my lucky video
You sound like Steve O lol
😆
@@FreePilotTraining Perfect channel by the way, aviation is a way of life
Preferring to turn right, may I guess you're left-handed?
Nope. Not sure why I prefer turning right first
The reason I guessed that (wrong) was that right-handed motorcycle riders are usuallu more comfortable with left turns (me included) while left-handed prefer right turns.
Anyway, thanks for a great video! Cheers.
Nice, but, show us the result 🥂
Thanks! Yeah, I should’ve been screen recording
the brains flying out the window when we fly.. why is this.. and how can I avoid this lol
Experience 😆
@@FreePilotTraining fair, haha.. how many (thousands) of hours do you have? ever considered the airlines??
I just realized that this dude is literally Joey Gallo if he was a pilot and not an MLB player 🤣
😆 guess I do kinda look like him. Lol or he looks like me
Never mind scrap Joey Gallo you look more like Anthony Rizzo 😂
@@jackhutch1368 lol I’ve heard I look like the Kentucky Ballistics guy
S turns are too easy and what you practice is done on Turns Around a Point. I taught Flyover Turnbacks instead. My DPE liked them and enjoyed them too. At Vglide speed with 10 degrees flaps. Try them, you will like them too. S turns are too lame. It is Mild Maneuvering GRM.
Well, it doesn’t matter how I feel about them, they are a maneuver that is required to be taught to student pilots. I’ll have to try the Flyover Turnbacks
@@FreePilotTraining GRM Turnbacks are used to practice for Box Canon Turnbacks and EFATO/LOTOT Turnbacks. Also help for Short Approaches, and low weather circlings Turnbacks. Many accidents by doing them wrong way. DPE will be impressed.
@@FreePilotTraining Try the Flyover Teardrop Turnback first. With flaps 10 and Vglide speed. Better practice over a simulated runway section, flyover it, then Teardrop Turnback to fly over again.
Always plan to align with a headwind, avoid tailwind alignments. So if crosswind, after flyover you turn away from the crosswind on first leg of the teardrop, then turn headwind to align on the second leg. Have fun.
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 If it's too easy then you probably don't need these videos, they are for student pilots like me trying to learn. Doesnt matter how easy it is, I need to learn to do this properly to get my pilot license.
@@FreePilotTraining I was a student of the Emergencylowmaneuvering CFI in 1996. At the beginning i didnt want to learn turnbacks due "I might not need this maneuver at at all". But then i saw many accidents on those maneuvers by doing them wrong. Not only on EFATO, but also on badly done Box canyon Turns which ARE TURNBACKS too. And those circlings turnbacks after flying almost over the runway at 400 agl, but then have to turnback to land on opposite due winds. Many accidents by "I dont think i will need that maneuver at all guys". And many by pilots with thousands of hours but dont know turnbacks.
Thanks for the great tips!
You’re welcome!
Thanks 👍
You’re welcome!