Here is how I learned what bank angle to use: In a 172, from the left, pilot's seat looking down the wing, you want to keep your point in the middle of the wing. If your point starts drifting back toward the trailing edge, steepen your bank and hold that steeper bank until the point moves back toward the middle of the wing. If the point starts moving forward toward the leading edge, shallow out your bank and hold that shallower bank until the point moves back toward the middle of the wing. To put it another way with ^ as your point and ========== looking down the wing: ========== = hold a standard rate turn --------^--------- ========== = hold a steeper turn ^------------------ ========== = hold a shallower turn -----------------^ Hope this helps.
There is a WHOLE NOTHER alternative explanation that is more intuitive: In a no-wind condition, turn so that your wing remains on the pivot point. If you allow the point to fall back behind your wing, (fly straight for a second or two) and keep it there, you will be spiraling outward from the point. If you pull tighter and get the wing behind the point, you will be spiraling inward toward the point. [The difference is that we are judging "crab angle" by the wing with reference to the pivot point] In wind, spiral outward upwind, spiral inward downwind. That simple!
FAA Bullshit. This maneuver should be started with the easiest bank angle. Not the most demanding, dangerous and difficult section. Its BS. I taught them starting HEADWIND.
Why the dog face? They are easy to do. Try a flyover the spot with a strong tailwind. Lest see that. Atailwind alignment flyover and turn over the point.
She didn't say to use the rudder to crab. Just bank more or less and watch your distance to the reference point if it's getting closer, reduce bank, if it's getting farther away increase bank. If it's moving forward from the wingtip, reduce bank, if it's moving backwards from the wingtip, increase bank. If it's some combination of these then you might be too close or too far away to do it correctly. Airlines crab during landing in a cross wind until the very end. They do this to maintain coordinated flight for as long as possible.
GRM is practiced for observation flights of an object on ground. Why using 120 mph for it. That is BS due you wont feel the wind at such speed. Also why so high?? . This is Wimpy GRM. Not realistic. Then when an already pilot have to do an observation flight with loaded airplane with friends or family, at say 600 agl and slower speed like Vfinal real needed for that flight, Realistic GRM. He will be drifted and even stall and fail in front of his friends that are paying for the flight. This is BS GRM too high, too fast and no wind at all. BS GRM training is a killer too., due so many stalls on GRM.
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Here is how I learned what bank angle to use:
In a 172, from the left, pilot's seat looking down the wing, you want to keep your point in the middle of the wing. If your point starts drifting back toward the trailing edge, steepen your bank and hold that steeper bank until the point moves back toward the middle of the wing. If the point starts moving forward toward the leading edge, shallow out your bank and hold that shallower bank until the point moves back toward the middle of the wing.
To put it another way with ^ as your point and ========== looking down the wing:
========== = hold a standard rate turn
--------^---------
========== = hold a steeper turn
^------------------
========== = hold a shallower turn
-----------------^
Hope this helps.
GREAT tip !!!!!!
You just helped many student pilots..bless you
Thank you man
As discussed in the video, crabbing is necessary and as such it is not possible to keep the point in the middle of the wing.
@@dstroma Try it the way I describe without the crabbing - you'll find that crabbing is not necessary.
This is what me and my instructor are doing rightnow...my first time was yesterday
The graphics on these videos are so clear.
These videos are incredible. Thank you.
BS..
There is a WHOLE NOTHER alternative explanation that is more intuitive: In a no-wind condition, turn so that your wing remains on the pivot point. If you allow the point to fall back behind your wing, (fly straight for a second or two) and keep it there, you will be spiraling outward from the point. If you pull tighter and get the wing behind the point, you will be spiraling inward toward the point. [The difference is that we are judging "crab angle" by the wing with reference to the pivot point] In wind, spiral outward upwind, spiral inward downwind. That simple!
You should probably show the flight controls doing their thing too.
at 1000' AGL....whats a good distance from the point?
hi nice video, can you tell me, what program do you use for your videos?
4:52 are those dinosaurs in the pond?
🤫
It’s the Loch Ness Monster
Lol I notice it too
of coars in a wind-less situation you will do a constant bank right?
Yes
FANTASTIC VIDEO!!!!
been there...
did that! ;)
fantastic video, thx!
Why do you have to have to join in the downwind?
Because the ACS says so lol
Skoz Hahahahaha
Maintenance Renegade hi, now that’s the most reasonable answer I’ve heard in a while.
FAA Bullshit. This maneuver should be started with the easiest bank angle. Not the most demanding, dangerous and difficult section. Its BS. I taught them starting HEADWIND.
@@outwiththem They are brainless when doing GRM. FAA burrocrats demanding only Mild Maneuvering GRM. Then they crash doing Hard GRM.
06:10 isn't it wrong? at upwind exactly abeam the point is the most shallow bank angle..not the steepest
The are FOS fake GRM experts..
I noticed that too.
Appreciate
2:14 could that cause a skid?
1:32 doesnt show dw heading, the wind is going across. Great vid regardless
4:42
Why the dog face? They are easy to do. Try a flyover the spot with a strong tailwind. Lest see that. Atailwind alignment flyover and turn over the point.
Left wing down and right rudder to crab away from reference point sounds like uncoordinated flight.
She didn't say to use the rudder to crab. Just bank more or less and watch your distance to the reference point if it's getting closer, reduce bank, if it's getting farther away increase bank. If it's moving forward from the wingtip, reduce bank, if it's moving backwards from the wingtip, increase bank. If it's some combination of these then you might be too close or too far away to do it correctly. Airlines crab during landing in a cross wind until the very end. They do this to maintain coordinated flight for as long as possible.
Indeed. Pointing the nose outside the turn is literally the definition of uncoordinated flight.
The wind sock doesnt makes sense in the animation
beautifull voice
GRM is practiced for observation flights of an object on ground. Why using 120 mph for it. That is BS due you wont feel the wind at such speed. Also why so high?? . This is Wimpy GRM. Not realistic. Then when an already pilot have to do an observation flight with loaded airplane with friends or family, at say 600 agl and slower speed like Vfinal real needed for that flight, Realistic GRM. He will be drifted and even stall and fail in front of his friends that are paying for the flight.
This is BS GRM too high, too fast and no wind at all. BS GRM training is a killer too., due so many stalls on GRM.
So much bologni. too fast, too high, no flyover, weak winds GRM = Fake GRM.
Спасибо