ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2022
- Through a seven month investigation, VICE News looks at the anti-abortion rights movement, their playbook, their years long strategy to pull off the overturn of Roe v. Wade, what’s next on their agenda and most importantly how this will affect the millions of people at the center of this issue.
Help keep VICE News’ fearless reporting free for millions by making a one time or ongoing contribution here. - vice.com/contribute
Subscribe to VICE News here: bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News
Check out VICE News for more: vicenews.com
Follow VICE News here:
Facebook: / vicenews
Twitter: / vicenews
Tumblr: / vicenews
Instagram: / vicenews
More videos from the VICE network: www. vicevideo
#VICENews #News
I feel like she should’ve covered how this might affect orphanages and children who live in foster homes.
Foster homes will have more kids now with the similar resources. Not every kid will get adopted & government has to step in.
Natalists don't care. Their main concern is preventing women from having pregnancy-free sex.
Pfffttt that'll never happen, us orphans don't matter 🤣
@@Insanio yes you and they do. Life is hard and you know that. You’ll be stronger than most and that will benefit you in life. Someone cared enough not to put you through the hell that would of been your “parents” there as so many kids who are neglected, sexually abused, and have to be subjected to horrible things because of selfish “parents”. You got this.
They say “just put the kid up for adoption” like it’s so easy. 100k+ foster kids every year waiting to get adopted but are less favorable than a fresh baby with no family ties. On top of adoptions are not all “free” adoptee parents in agencies are vetted out and then pay and sign papers etc. Foster homes are scarce and research shows adoption agency’s are more favorable.
It won’t, because the church offers resources and the pro-life advocates have worked tirelessly to provide women with unplanned pregnancies.
It makes no sense that it takes two people to have a child, but only one bares the responsibility.
If only one has responsibility, that one is having sex with the wrong person.
@@oxide8182 and thus shouldn’t be forced to carry their child. glad you agree.
@@wok7152 ahh so both do whatever & neither takes responsibility, got it. But I guess responsibility has become another simple word we dont know the meaning of.
@@oxide8182 doubt the mom would abandon their child to state care except of poverty,age,or other strong reasons.
@Danny G omg it’s almost like it’s not the 1930s and people have sex for fun 🤯🤯🤯
One thing that I feel like is often overlooked, is that in the US there are no safety nets for parents and the unemployed if one decides to (or forced) to have a child at a time when they don’t have the means to raise one.
It's not a concern to these religious nuts, because after all, poverty guarantees the kingdom of heaven!
Except for food stamps, wic, social security disability, and like a bajillion other social programs at various levels
Forced to have a child. Wow. Forced wow. He or she was a child at the moment of conception. Someone has to speak for them. So many programs here in the United States. So many condoms.
@@connievino4226 but you are so very wrong. A single cell at conception is ‘not’ a child, it’s a human cell - then it becomes a zygote - then it becomes an embryo - then it becomes a fetus - then, after 9 months, it becomes a fully formed human. Calling a clump of cells a ‘child’ is a falsehood; and one that helps infiltrates the misinformation, lies, and propaganda that the pro-forced-birth movement is pushing.
Those who are forcing people to carry a pregnancy and birth unwanted children are selfish. They obviously don’t care about the unwanted baby once born; and they certainly don’t care about those being forced to carry a pregnancy.
Furthermore, calling women and their doctors killers for ending a ‘pregnancy’ is so beyond ignorant it’s not even laughable - it’s sick.
Either one will educate themselves or not. But if they refuse to educate themselves, they have very little room to voice their frustrations as they won’t be heard.
Those who support the overturning of RvW, and do ‘nothing’ to help better the broken system are ‘not’ pro-life - but instead, are responsible for supporting the extreme amount of unwanted children suffering; and possibly crippling our overwhelmed foster system.
@@tammywatson4886 Your a pedant, you have to correct. I know all the stages of life. Baby, child,. teen adult all come from a cell that is a human baby. Please don't talk to me again.
It's easy enough to say, "In an ideal society, no woman would seek an abortion, or ever need one." But I don't see anti-choice activists pushing to improve society, to ensure that all women and children have access to resources and opportunities - no, they're just ensuring that more women and children will struggle to survive in a society that only cares about profit, not people.
I vote for the best way to improve society - by making the economy great so that people have jobs and can take care of their own families and afford to buy what their family needs... And I also support pregnancy resource centers - places that help women who are struggling (e.g. help them find jobs, help them sign up for benefits they might not have known the were eligible for, giving them items for their babies etc.). It's pro-aborts that don't support pregnancy resource centers, they just support killing.
@@mathildeyoung1823 "making the economy great" means nothing when there's no magic wand that can make an economy "great", that's why it's a ridiculous statement to make. And even then, whether an economy is great or not, abortion should simply be one of the options, whether you believe it's "killing" or not doesn't matter.
@@Ashelirria Policies can be put in place to improve the economy.
Abortion does k!ll a human being and k!lling an defenseless human being to make your life easier should never be an option.
@@mathildeyoung1823 What is a "human" to you?
@@Kiz-0 A human being is a living member of our species.
Shame on the person who could watch that poor young lady and think she and her child are somehow getting what they deserve being homeless and without necessities.
Right? My heart just breaks for her and all the others in the same situation. I can't stop crying. She's so young and trying so hard. It's absurd.
Religious nutjobs are by definition heartless because they let their book (and not compassion) dictate their thoughts and actions.
It used to be that on a starting wage you could support yourself and your wife and a child. The answer isn't support promiscuousity and abort the child, society needs to encourage families to stay together and better wages. Who benefits from promiscuousity, abortions, low birth rates, less family based lives, low wages, longer work weeks? Not us. Not the average person. You know who benefits from society as it currently is? Employers and people at the top. That's it
th-cam.com/video/GO5cFw4Wd2U/w-d-xo.html
@Randall Slaughter What if that woman is a pregnant 10 year old girl that was molested by a 26 year old pedophile? Ohio still said “No abortion” -The Hill, 07/02/2022.
Its crazy the person helping make these laws has no clue about the costs of having a baby or how much the state even pays to help or even the risks to the mothers health. Just disgusting
@@sokunine BUT PEOPLE CAN GET PREGNANT EVEN WHEN USING PROTECTION.
Go fucking read books, research and stats on the matter.
Life is more complicated than you make it out to be. No woman is happy to get an abortion ffs.
The US shames teenagers and young adults for getting pregnant but won't even provide medically accurate sex ed. You guys are absurd.
@@sokunine
Contraception is not 100% effective 🙄
Says on the box itself
And some women are raped..
Think outside your narrow mind
Ummm…you’re upset because they didn’t balance their morals against dollars?!?!?
@@sokunine protection isn’t 100%. i’m assuming you wouldn’t know anything about sexual intercourse, judging by your comment.
by the way - most rapists don’t use condoms - especially when they are your abusive partner.
We know the costs. That why it’s cheaper to be on BC of any sort permanent or not and get an abortion early on.
“there are families waiting to adopt”
major eye roll 🙄
foster care is intense they can get their kids there.
there are people on a wait list for a very specific baby. guess what that is? blonde hair, blue eyes, fresh to the world. because why would they care about the darker skin toned kids that have been in the system for 6 years? the “people are wanting to adopt” idea is atrocious. there are PLENTY of kids looking for homes.
So the solution is dead babies?
my dear, I don't think you know that white parents have and can adapt poc children, any parent from any race can adopt any child they want
@@Femmeaesthetic some do but there are still many that'll favour children with lighter complexions
Stop lying.
I worked at a summer camp and the majority of the kids there were adopted and fostered. It was really sad as nearly all of them were drug babies that had made it so that they had mild to moderate mental health problems nd processing problems. You already know what their life is going to turn out like despite having lovely parents. There will be many more children that will be like this and there won’t be enough people to take care of them. Well done America.
To the mother who has her baby , and she is trying to make it , her baby smile is a blessing , I really hope she gets the assistance she needs , she truly is a strong women and I admire her truly , we need a stronger support system for mothers who are doing it alone
thats the thing that irritates the shhh out of me. why can america not set up that support system and THEN do the unthinkable to ban abortion. for me and i am european, i was devastated wen the supreme court overturned r v.w
@@mynameiseve.1 just think now the pressure is on the govt. to rise up and support single mothers . I think abortion was an excuse for governments to not do that.
@@annabouillon8797nobody is gonna rise up to support women especially single mothers. I'm pretty sure overturning r v. w was a response to the #metoo movement among other things to show women that they have no power and a big F You finger. Nobody is pro life, it's all pro birth and wat happens after that nobody cares. It's so unthinkable in our day and age. I'm from ireland which is super religious and iv lived in Germany now 20yrs which is not so much. Yet both countries support abortion, support single mothers, free med insurance etc etc etc. America what are you doing?? (I dont mean you)
I'm a teacher and I'm going to lay down a hard truth. In our society, people (particularly poor people) are not given support to manage their own lives. I've seen so many children raised by people who frankly don't have the ability to properly care for children. I'd say maybe 2/3 to 3/4 of people are simply not fit to have children. Forcing these people to have children they are simply not mentally or physically capable of taking care of will do nothing.
Put the kids in adoption then let them have a chance. Killing them is not a mercy. Death is worse then poverty if it wasn’t poor people would be hanging themselves
@@ibrahimhassan711 here we go again... adoption? how many friends of your are adoptee? have you ever wonder why the adoption centre population was never zero? kids being pushed here and there, no permanent place to call home. It's like if you give birth and throw away because your duty was done, to not care about a child you created into the world! Sometimes it is ethical to be ready to give birth to your child once you know your capacity toward childcare rather than suffering through life. The mother has to stop studying if she's a student, so here's more problem, low education pregnant women mentally forced to make money to raise a child they don't want to bear.
i think they should used protection, they get pregnant out of their carelessness and failure to control their desires and instead of trying their best to raise the child they get an abortion
@@laltanchhana316 Protection does not protect 100%. Secondly blame the pro-live movement for giving bad sex-ed in which they tell people that condoms do not work. The pro-live movement prefers to teach young people that they are used chewing gum if they ever have sex, then making sure to teach how to prevent pregnancies.
You have an overrated job and are an overrated person. “Those who cant, teach” you couldnt. The laziest job in the world
There's supposed to be a separation of church and state. Secular people and members of non Christian religions shouldn't have to follow these anti-abortion religious rules. America is messed up.
Agreed
We protested for 50 years bro, respect our point of view
Blue states exist dont they? What about the rest of us who dont want your secular militant atheist progressive religion forced onto us?
You guys seem like you wont be satisfied until you dominate everybody and everything with your “secular” beliefs… a little creepy. And seeing the state of canada and australia now, a little scary.
try jamaica... oh wait it's illegal there... or angola, whoops it's illegal there too ... maybe egypt is better than america? no, no... it's illegal in egypt. i wonder how many christians are in egypt? islam is the official religion there. hmm what about the congo? maybe you can get a legal abortion in iraq? is iraq a christian nation? or maybe just maybe america has states where abortion is completely legal, california or oregon for example
13:18 That Texas law just got tested. Abortion provider got sued and the court tossed it out. No standing. The abortion had to directly affected the plaintiff for the case to continue.
So scary that a human baby fetus that was murdered makes you so happy. The abortion provider's are murderous warlocks.
@@connievino4226 What about stating the facts and outcome of that case causes you to think that I am either for abortion or against? Facts are neither pro or con.
Bullshit. My God we all came from our Mothers body. The womb. Some Mom's are horrible, some aren't. My mommy was nuts. She never got the help that she needed. But she had me and I am glad to be alive. Ask my son?
@@ZombieXee I never read the facts of that Texas case. I won't because the liberal so want us too.
@@connievino4226 You're still psychotic.
My granddaughter went through her birth against our advice. She gave him up for adoption at 18 months because she was not equipped to raise a child. Now she deals with the trauma of giving up her child and the shame that goes with the fact you are not fit to be a mother. It has been 4 years and she still is riddles with guilt and depression. She lost 3 years of her life and still cannot function due to the pregnancy.
The protection of life is not always the easy road, killing might seem like the easy way out, but you have to kill, thats not where society needs to go.
Did you ever meet your great granddaughter or great grandson the living human being that your granddaughter produced? Could you walk up to that person and say, hey my granddaughter feels guilt because you exist
Go ask the child if he's glad his mom didn't abort him. ;)
Why did she have the child in the first place
@@superfly29rr16 Suffering is the goal of the religious. That is why they ALSO dont support proper level of taxation or social programs, BUT do support the death penalty.
“How do you plan to help the babies & new mothers who would have had an abortion that cannot afford a raising child and healthcare?”
I’d love to hear this question in every single interview.
Exactly where are all these so goodie, goodie two shoestring, I know praying with their hands in the air praying to an imaginary sky daddy.
I’ll never understand how this is the immediate question that pro choicers have. The real question is, why are so many women having sex with men they don’t want to have kids with? You people are proving why marriage was supposed to be so sacred and important
@@tommartyn524 "why are so many women having sex with men they don’t want to have kids with?" Because they're not trying to have a kid, they're just having sex. Is that really hard to understand for you?
@@ceejw multiple studies show that the vast majority of women regret the vast majority of their sexual partners. Once again women are advocating for their own misery. Women who live this “ sl#t life show far more signs of depression and mental illness. Again, you people aren’t addressing the real issues. This abortion debate that you’re having won’t solve anything. Not only that, but you’re attempting to justify killing babies in the process. I literally don’t know how you make that ok in your own mind
A miserable life is still a life. Having a baby is a choice in almost all cases, but taking the choice to end an pregnancy aka a baby life is not a choice
Friendly reminder that although the ADF considers themselves to be "defenders" of religious freedom, it has supported Miracle Hill Ministries (which has barred faith groups outside of Protestants from fostering children), and also in general supported the idea that prospective foster parents can be denied on basis of faith. This is also on top of their initiatives to criminalize homosexuality.
It was very striking to me how often she used the term “freedom.”
Yes. They did this in SC where I am originally from preventing a Jewish family from fostering.
They are extremists, and they're taking over the country. How can they claim to defend religious freedom when they don't believe that all religions are equal, and having no religion at all is just as valid? Religious freedom also means freedom from religion.
@@alexlabs4858 You see this a lot with fascist groups. For example how China's military is the People's Liberation Army and the bill that stripped away American privacy is The Patriot Act. It's all projection. They're so desperate to convince us they aren't fascists that they go way too heavy on the use of buzzwords like freedom, liberation, patriot, justice, etc.
well thats horrible
Death penalties still exist and they hypocritically talk about "saving a life", LOL
Death for evil killers though. A bit different than an innocent unborn child.
@@Lewtable Ah yes the ol' making excuses for POS criminals. Like it's not their fault alone when they decide to pull the trigger. Yeah I've heard that too bad it's not true.
@@RollinRocker are you 100% sure in each case a charged person is guilty? Would you like to watch a statistics of innocent people being sentenced?
@@RollinRocker Are you Vegan, lol.
So you'd defend a rapist but you'd willingly kill an innocent baby?
Religion aside and right foward, I refuse to give my rapist the right to take 9 more month away from me and make me more traumatize than what he already did, you won't take care of that unwanted child, orphanages are filled and inhumaine,adoption centers are messed up and most children don't find a loving home once they hit 18 they kicked them to the curb because you're an adult now and can go fence for yourself and how can you give that child a right living if you're not stable both economically nor mentally. Finally one of my right is the gift of choice therefore I chose who to give a child to and when if I want a child.Abortion should be safe for those that want it, if you don't want one don't get one, but it should be available for those that do need one.
Making abortions illegal doesn't make it "unthinkable" or "unnecessary". It just prevents people from getting safe abortions
if people are willing to go the great stride to get rid of a baby by all means do it
Changing laws doesn't change people's beliefs to match yours.
But if you change the laws, you can make people ACT like they have your beleifs, because the alternative is jail.
Right, it just reintroduces the horror of young women and girls feeling like they're trapped with their backs against the wall and no way out, resorting to self-performed procedures that can often leave the mother mutilated or worse. These efforts by the right wing are part of an entirely selfish mission on their part to please the protagonists of their almighty fiction. Unfortunately their fears of death and of their "god" are stronger than the love any of them have for their sisters, wives or daughters... pretty pathetic if you ask me.
The same applies to guns, Banning legal guns won't do anything to stop gun crime
@@nwonomad Japan, Uk, Singapore, Australia and Germany are the 5 countries with the strictest gun law. They practically have no gun crimes
A lot of the alternatives are pushing more kids in an already overburdened, underfounded foster care/orphanage system. People already complain so much about food stamps and homelessness. I just don't see how the current system can handle a spike of "unwated" children or poor families.
An alternative is females being more responsible for their actions and not pretend to be oppressed because they can’t kill their children.
There are thousands of couples begging to adopt newborns, the demand outweighs the supply. These children aren't going to grow up like little orphan annie. Not to mention a very large amount of children in foster care are not up for adoption, they are there because they were removed from their parents and pending being either returned or moved to relatives. So using foster care numbers as an argument to say "see look at these unadopted kids!" is disingenuous. And finally, recommending extermination as a fix for the problem is beyond disgusting.
@@Shrimp_Insurance I see what you are saying. However I don't see how this is really addressing what I am saying. My main concern is that the government / private funding is not there for this situation. And as much as people ideolize certain humanitarian concepts a lot of people really don't want to fund it and deal with the reality of what funding and support may look like (often times increased taxes).
@@TonTon_X Ah, so you don't want to pay for it so you'd rather see these undesirable people exterminated. Gotcha.
@@TonTon_X If it meant having as good of social services and as low prices as western/northern europe I willl gladly pay more tax. The almost free healthcare they have in France cost their government way less tax money than the US. SO yeah the problem here isn't lack of resources it is failure to manage. However we can' t justify mass killing by the inadequacy of politicians
"Women are strong. Women are capable. Women can figure it out" Such hubris. I find her to be a little detached for reality. I will give credit to her and those like her who put in the effort to overturn Roe v Wade, but I believe women should have the choice of what to do to their body. Their fate should not be decided by others. Heck, they want to ban abortion pills too. That's insane.
"I believe women should have the choice of what to do to their body. " by your "logic" child abuse needs to be legal because that's just a woman doing something with her body (hands). By your "logic" child abandonment/endangerment needs to be legal because that's just a woman doing something with her body (e.g. taking it to the beach while leaving a newborn home alone to die). i.e. Just as child abuse and endangerment are not about someone doing something to their body, neither is abortion.
What's beyond insane is calling killing an unborn child "doing something with my body". It's not - it's doing something (KILLING!) the body of ANOTHER innocent human being. I hope this helps you understand why abortion needs to be illegal.
@Mathilde Young This isn't about your point of view, or mine for that matter. It is about a person's right to choice. Our morals have nothing to do with it. Can they afford to take care of the baby? Most women below the poverty line cannot. And what about those whose very lives are at risk? Will doctors be forced to let them die so the babay comes to term? Such bullshit. I'm not for abortion, but I am against any law that prohibits anybody from doing what they want to their body. People can legally mutilate themselves in the name of 'sex change' but women can't make decisions that fundamentally alter their lives? Miss me with that nonsense. God will Judge them for the murder you accuse them of. Not you. There must always be a separation between Church and State. Besides, abortions will keep happening in a black market, putting more women at risk. It's not worth it
@@rhizonhaze5597yea it's about a persons right to kill a baby. Does the woman have 2 heads during pregnancy? 2 different sets of DNA? No. Open any biology text book or look at the pew research studies saying 95% of biologists agree that life begins at conception. This is not about "making a medical decision" this is not about "a persons right to choose" this is about a completely new human being that is murdered in every abortion.
@@mathildeyoung1823 if abortion 'needs' to be illegal, why isn't it? Abortion does qualify as a form of bodily autonomy, as pregnancy directly affects the woman involved. Case in point: when a woman goes to a clinic to get the procedure done, who is actually listed as 'the patient'?
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs why was slavery legal for years... when it was legal, people said it needed to be illegal because it was a human rights violation. Abortion is a human rights violation.
A real doctor would treat a woman AND her unborn children as patients and do what is best to protect ALL of them.
No more child killing
Ok so this is something right here:
"An ideal America is where Americans are free to live and work according to their beliefs; where marriages and families are strong and healthy. That I think that is ideal for everyone."
Ok so they are trying to cancel pro choice options, gay marriage, and contraception. None of this will help with keeping families and marriages healthy and strong. It was never about saving 'babies'. This is about controlling women and having power.
For fundamentalists, "freedom" is the freedom to force their views on everyone else while having the money to break their own rules.
When she said she wants to make abortion unthinkable and unnecessary....ok well I sure hope she's working on bills to make min wage a living wage, provide universal healthcare, universal childcare, and funding education....
No chance! They don't care...
But you know she’s not. The hypocrisy of the pro-birth crowed knows no limits.
Well if u use rubber or not having s.. in the first place those things would not gonna happen to you, would they?
@XD condoms have less than an 80% effective rate and guys will literally try to take them off on you sometimes, if they agree to wear them at all. Sex is not a luxury of the rich. It is a natural activity. Every species regulates its reproduction based on resources available. Educate yourself.
@@achyleftistwitch oh so you rather k... The unborn baby but not trying to prevent it from its happen. Nice ☺️
Edit: Why u deleted ur reply 😂
I’m just so angry of these people manipulating weaker people for their own agenda 😡😡
Life should be protected from murderers
2'25''
- "Do you want to know?"
- "No"
That passage pretty much illustrates the pro-abortion anti-science bigotry and cult of ignorance.
They're brainwashed into thinking it's not a person, it's just a parasitic clump of cells, of course they don't care. Plus I imagine there's a lot of denial and detachment that goes on
I keep wanting to know where the biological fathers are - pro-life should not just be the sole burden of the womb, but the sperm provider equally.
100% agree, the fathers need to have checks garnished if they won't pay for there babies financial needs.
I'm a single dad raising a teenage daughter. I'm pro-choice.
That paragraph never has anything about “why these goofy chicks keep choosing deadbeats that for sure aren’t gonna stick around”. Nobody Eve asks that or talks about what losers these chicks are.
@@pho-kingsoup8126 then you are a cowardly father, that doesn't support your daughter at all, you only support the death of your own grandchildren. You are a monster.
That's coming from a single father myself.
There is a law that 15 weeks into the pregnancy fathers have to pay child support but then the death rates will go up because some of these fathers do not want to pay child support so they think killing the mother is a better option
Men need to take responsibility or be legally enforced to do so from birth. This young lady is running around looking for a job with a newborn, yet the father is out there free to piss about.
And screw around
You go help her. Better yet have her help herself. She should have got the job before the baby. Save the Babies
Like Dave Chappelle said, “your body your choice. My wallet my choice “
Yep I agree more emphasis needs to be placed on the fathers in these situations
@@yveje9720 more emphasis needs to be put on marriage. Why are women having sex with dead beat men? Men already pay 85% of all child support. What more can be done? How about women be careful with who they have sex with
I'm reading all your posts regarding orphanages, courts, funds, cases, guilt, resources, depression, adoption, feeling unfit to be a mom, and the list goes on...These are legitimate problems that need to be addressed. Killing or keeping your unborn baby will not fix the problems in a broken system. Killing or keeping your baby will not fix the problems in your broken life. The baby didn't create a problem for you, your actions created a baby. Babies are not the root of our problems. Your body, your choice? Then take responsibility for your choices.
Sorry, why won't abortion fix that problem?
If you're feeling unfit to be a mom, the natural conclusion is don't be a mom; don't give birth.
As for the courts, giving birth won't fix them either, but it will still cost you just as much.
Take responsibility in the way that is right for you; whether that be abortion or abandonment.
When these unwanted children get into their teens the crime rates are going up again, and more over crowding in juvenile detention and prisons. History is repeating itself again. Some people never learn.
I had an abortion when I was a teenager, when I was incapable of and honestly unwilling to be a mother.
Now, twenty-five years later, I'm the mother of four very loved, very wanted children.
I was in an unstable and abusive relationship. Now I'm in a loving and healthy marriage.
I was in high school and would have had to drop out to have and raise the baby. Now I'm a college graduate with B.A.
I worked in the food service industry for minimum wage. Now I work for an educational software company and have a yearly household income of $107K.
My entire life would have changed for the worse of I'd been forced to have that baby. Abortion enabled me to work toward the life I wanted so that, when I did eventually have my four children, they and I are stable, happy, and healthy.
Congrats plenty more had kids and did more. You arent special. You are literally a baby killer. Congrats you took a life because of your own bad choices and still ended up at the end of the totem pole in life. 107k for a house hold?? Bk managers earn that.
Imagine taking a life and bragging about still living at poverty level. LMFAO . this entire story is a lie as you will see below.
then you don't know poverty my amigo....🤷
@@elbinx760 hey look its the hanger baby. Still angry your mom didn't finish the job?
So you sacrificed your child over wealth. That’s evil.
Kaiya is so brave for going on record with her story right now. Thank you for making the decision to share your story, you are so much braver in your 18 years than many of our elected officials.
My heart goes out to all the babies that have been dismembered, their heads cut off even though they were able to hear, taste, had a heartbeat, and were dumped in containers after their organs were sold to researchers. I couldn't care less for hoes who can't keep their legs shut though.
Kayia is a pawn for corporate press
… gonna hate she did
“Brave” it legit just makes her look stupid
She is a murderer and a coward.
@@j.e.bennett2997 Don’t presume to know what she will feel. I had my abortion 21 years ago. No regrets. No guilt. No melodramatic bullshit like the propaganda you’ve had shoved down your throat and happily swallowed. The *vast majority* of us feel profound relief after our abortion. We don’t like it, but we do what is best for ourselves, our health, and our futures. It is incredibly painful, personal, and emotional for most of us, and there are so many factors and reasons. One in 4 women will have an abortion in her lifetime. I am one, and I personally know about a dozen women who’ve also had at least one abortion. None of them found it “convenient” or a happy event, but a necessary medical procedure.
Stop dehumanizing women.
Stop demonizing women.
Stop presuming to know what a woman feels.
Stop policing our bodies.
Mind your business.
✌🏻
I encourage every women to look up Norma McCorvey or "Roe" i.e Roe v Wade...
"In an interview conducted for the film shortly before her death, in what she referred to as her "deathbed confession", McCorvey said her anti-abortion activism had been "all an act", which she did because she was paid, stating that she did not care whether a woman got an abortion. "I was the big fish."
I read and heard something about that,Norma mcgonvey was just pretending to be "pro life",while getting paid off by anti abortion people..I guess money talks..I would never do something like that,pretend to be something I'm not,while getting paid..my beliefs are my beliefs
And?
And? So what?
"I forbid you from having control over your own body and don't you dare tell me I have to wear a mask into Walmart during an airborne pandemic! That's tyranny!"
Pandemic oh no lololol
@@joshuacox5428 More American's dead than any war since your civil war...but hey, no biggie. 'murica! #1 in covid deaths!
You mean plandemic.
Men wear masks so nobody needs abortions.
Only masks?
Masks? I thought you believed in science. Masks are the pull out and pray of epidemiology.
I understand there is debate on when life begins and when a termination is appropriate, but to take away the whole procedure is crazy. Because ultimately a woman’s right to bodily autonomy should not have to be a debate. It’s not that difficult to understand that pregnancy and childbirth should not be forced upon anyone. Whether or not an embryo has ‘life’ should be secondary to the rights of women who are absolutely alive. Disregarding the pain and risks that come with childbirth, pregnancy alone is a strain physically and mentally. People don’t understand that just yelling adoption at women is not good enough. Especially when the healthcare, foster care system and social welfare in the US is as tragic as it is.
The overturning of Roe is a step back for everyone, but it is especially a setback for the working class, for people living pay check to pay check, for POC women, for black birth givers who experience maternal mortality 2-3 times higher than white birth givers and for those whose pregnancies came from SA. It is a step back from modern medicine. And it is a disgrace.
I understand if you don’t agree with abortion for yourself, but just because it’s not for you, it doesn’t mean it’s not for anyone else either. Because sure, women can be forced to give birth, but once the child goes into the system, the stats of SA, physical abuse, addiction, suicide skyrocket.
And if you say you don’t agree with abortion yourself but would understand if someone else had the procedure due to circumstances, that is pro-choice. Pro-choice is believing in choice, choices women should have.
Women also have the choice to not get pregnant in the first place. Keep your legs closed.
Sooo…until “what a fetus is” is decided….we’re willing to roll the dice?!?!?!
WHAT IF science finds out it’s a baby, seconds after insemination.
There IS that chance.
You’re willing to go ahead with the possible murder of babies…before knowing for sure?!?!?!?!!!??!?!?
That seems EXTREMELY irresponsible.
There really should be ZERO discussion, about ANY of this, until the science is figured out.
prolifers are anti women. they want white women to be baby factories like stepford wives were.
WOW!!!!!
Yeah….no.
IF it is a “life” at embryo….it’s a “life”.
That’s it.
It’s not “secondary” and the mom is more important.
WOW!!!
Just….WOW!
When did women get SOOOOOOOO weak and self-righteous?!?!??
A woman’s body is more important than another “life”??!!?!!??
WOW!!!!
@@sendthis9480 It's only a life when it is able to sustain itself autonomously - up until that point it is nothing but a parasite...
For a country that boasts about its freedom, this in’s directly conflicting it.
Freedom to kill isn't a Freedom
The beliefs of one should not take away the rights of others.
That goes both ways
This reporter is incredible. I can only imagine the pressure they must be under in these interviews- asking such tough questions, really hearing the other person’s response, having to react to the unpredictable on the spot, & maintaining composure throughout some of the most challenging topics we have today. Mad respect.
This "reporter" is a witch
All while being “unbiased” 😂💀
@@mickjames210 oh totally, very “descend” 😂😂
@@bobjenkins2022 Documentaries are not meant to be unbiased.
@@mfraye12 what world do you live in? 😂
The states with strictest abortion laws have the least social welfare. $40 per month in Kansas. Thats not even a week with a baby. Its about punsihing women and the poor as per usual for republicans.
The way it shud be. Why shud the state pay if hoes can’t close their legs
You can always put the child up for adoption, or just don’t bother getting pregnant. Why is the leap to murdering the child the go-to answer for you fools.
Good, you shouldn't be incentivize by the gov to not hold your own hand thru life..
4 month old ccp account. Never fails..
Punishing women and the poor? How about accountability for their own decisions? How about making better choices in life? I don’t want to pay the bill for someone else’s decisions……..is that “punishing” them? There are consequences for decisions, and if you go through life making bad decisions, others shouldn’t be shamed in to bailing you out.
Can the Narrator's Bias get anymore obvious ?? lol 🙄
It’s Vice news, they have questions and they highlighted both sides, it doesn’t have to be even. Also some would argue this video makes good pro life arguments as well.
Only if they were wearing a planned parenthood hat and tee shirt
Thank God Roe v Wade got overturned, abortion is evil!
Overturning Roe v. Wade was a greater evil and has caused greater suffering.
At 6 months, I was mentally and physically sick and exhausted from hyperemesis Gravidarum. Nothing was helping to reduce the nausea and vomiting. I had passed out on the side of the road and ended up in the hospital. I wanted to end my pregnancy before 6 months but more at that time. I wanted to end my life.
Anti-abortion laws will lead to an increase in suicides. I'm so sad for those unable to access abortion.
Abortion also leads to suicide. They don't tell you that though.
You realize many women fall into despair and some kill themselves after killing there own babies right?
How about you take your meassures not to get pregnant???And becareful when u open your legs!!!
Keep your legs closed if you don't want a pregnancy.
@@jd3jefferson556 >> No. No, she doesn’t.
The fact that we get free documentaries on TH-cam by VICE News is truly a gift. 👍👍👍
Indeed but the double adds have to go
true that brother
propaganda is always free
Or propaganda
They dictate narratives
As a person that would not personally like to shave a partner have an abortion, I am absolutely pro abortion, as I am legitimately pro personal privacy and civil liberties, unlike the party that claims to be civil liberties as long as they conform to their own personal, political, religious beliefs.
The hypocrisy is ghastly.
Privacy is a horrible excuse to take the life of an innocent human being.
Doesn't take religion to know that k-illing an innocent human being is wrong and needs to be illegal. Just common sense.
@@mathildeyoung1823 "Privacy" includes the right to personal and medical autonomy.
Mathilde Young keeping her tongue is wrong and needs to be illegal.
@@Len-jk4zi By your "logic" slavery needs to be legal
Plantation owner to doctor: "my back hurts when I work in the field"
Doctor: "Get a slave then"
Planation owner: "Thank you for helping me make that private medical decision. I cannot believe some are trying to take that choice away from me! Since it's all about me, me, me, me, me, OH and me, I'll be getting a slave!"
@@mathildeyoung1823 That's your logic alone.
We've been over this before, stop saying "by your logic", you've never ever been right.
@@Len-jk4zi just destroying your EXCUSE to try to justify abortion.
In the heart of Africa, my mom brought me into this world at the tender age of 14. Picture the stark contrast of our humble beginnings amidst poverty, especially when juxtaposed with the prosperity of America. Gratitude fills my heart as I thank God she chose not to abort me. Life was an uphill battle, a constant struggle, but somehow, against all odds, we managed to scrape by. Now, with a fire in my soul, I yearn to transform the world, to weave positivity into its fabric. Every moment is a cherished gift, and I'm determined to make a difference as I savor the joys of life.
Respect to the people actually going out, trying to feed and clothe women and stand by them and their infants. That's a real love for women, as far as I can see. Real love is shown in consistent actions.
Most of these maternity christian centers offer you six months to one year of help once the baby is born, that's it. After that, you're on your own! Good luck to the single mothers who already have kids to take care of and no money and no insurance and no job.
@@ykMMD yeah! You're right, they shouldn't bother doing anything then!!! We should all take your attitude instead; let's not bother to help our neighbours because, since we can't completely overhaul their entire life with a snap of our fingers, there's no point to doing anything good at all! Thanks for the enlightenment.
@@truthnotlies what time time will b
@@ykMMD will trrr the studyizyist tuddss da set trustisyiyss guy to n &9& a 🤪😌🤓📺📚hi
E are e
Being a foster child myself I have often just wished my parents weren’t allowed to have me, they both have schizophrenia and I was forced to be with them for the first two weeks of my life, and afterwards visit them and get to know them. I even believe that people who can not raise a child should simply not have them. I often just wish I was never born into such chaos and trauma. Every child deserves parents but not every parent deserves children.
would you have preferred to not exist? If that's the case nobody is stopping you from ending your suffering.
sooo you would rather have never lived at all?
@@taylea11 I think that was the general point she making. I hope one day she finds peace and that there are reasons to be alive.
Yet what sad is she not alone. Por-lifers don't want to face some ugly truths about being born and the environment you born in to. They don't want to face that when you suffer several a traumatic abuse especially over rhe course of your childhood it leaves you wishing you had never been born.
The objective should be to eliminate abortion not through force but by creating systems and expanding on them that will really help women care for their child on a mental, emotional, physical and financial level so they don't need to turn to abuse.
It means fixing Child Service and Foster care so children who end up in foster care are treated with love and kindness and dignity and respect they deserve. which is not the case at the moment. 38% of children in foster care are abused and neglected. Those just cases we know about or that CPS isn't turning a blind eye to. Even in the cases we're these kids aren't abused or neglected per say they are treated as a meal ticket and often times treated as if they don't belong any where. All of those things take a toll on kids and effects them and will most likely deeply impact them in a negative way. Which can then impact society.
We can change all that and fix it make it better. Pro-lifers and also pro-choicers ignore these issue and these issues will be deeply impacted by anti-abortion laws.
You’re good happy you weren’t aborted
I appreciate you, I appreciate you sharing, I wish you peace in this crazy messed up world that we are all living in. it's not easy, and I salute you. much love, 🙇♂
Banning abortion is about freedom? Never heard such Orwellian doublespeak in my life. If you don’t like abortions you’re free to not get one.
The fact that most women who have abortions go on to have families on their own terms proves anti-abortion laws perpetrate a double-tragedy on women: once when they force a child to be born unwanted or into poverty, and a second time when they deprive the mother of having a family on her own terms.
Killing your children is about freedom? Never heard such Orwellian doublespeak in my life. If you don’t want a child you’re free to not have sex.
Pregnant people? Really? I think we can safely call anyone who is pregnant, a woman.
40:54 'ideal America is where everyone can live according to their beliefs'... as long as it's hers. These people's hypocrisy is disgusting
agreed. they dont care that they are forcing their beliefs on others. they are indoctrinated to believe that forcing their beliefs on others is good and righteous. They have no idea how destructive their missionary ideals are to those who do not want their intrusion in their lives.
They're like if Christian missionaries knew they'd spread disease but did it anyway for 'the Lord and savior' both words being pretty ironic in this case
Why can't people get the picture that if you don't want an abortion, you don't have to get one. But you can't make someone else's decision. Especially when you don't care about what happens to the child after it gets here. If you complain about your taxes helping someone that needs assistance with children they can't take care of please be quiet. You can't have it both ways.
Don't get pregnant if you aren't able to raise a child then
@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS by that logic the world would likely never be repopulated with amount of "unplanned" pregnancies thatmake up our society today. In a perfect world that would happen. But, that's not the world is, nor is it the world has ever been. Even before roe was established. If you could only get pregnant if you were financially well off the working class would never have kids. Either way, you don't want an abortion don't get one. Don't want a woman you're sleeping with to have one, don't get her pregnant. Better yet keep it in your pants and eliminate the risk. But it's mighty easy to force someone to keep a child you don't have to carry, you don't have to feed, you don't have to take to the doctor, you don't have educate, don't have to protect, don't have to risk your life for simply by going into labor. Even if you did have that ability as a woman, you still wouldn't have the right to tell ANOTHER woman what to do. You're sitting on the sidelines. When that baby gets here you won't give a damn about what it will be born into. I'd actually believe pro life people were really concerned if the concern lasted past the smack the doctor gives the baby after it makes it out the womb. But, you don't. Where's all the uproar and plans for resources to help all these women that'll be forced to bring babies to term they didn't want. What physiological damage could be done with a mother caring for a child she didn't want to have but was forced to keep. I'm sure that'll be a healthy environment. Put them up for adoption you'll say. Yeah that's not a guaranteed solution either. Every child isn't going to get adopted. Some will go to bad homes, some will age out of the system at 18 and be thrown out onto the street because they're now adults. You gonna fake care about them then? You have no skin in the game so your opinion shouldn't matter for the person who is directly affected. There shouldn't be a group mandate on a personal decision.
@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS Why do you hate freedom? Young adults and poor people get to have sex too. Sometimes, even when using contraception, pregnancies can occur. And the right wing zealots trying to ban abortion will try to ban contraception next. Just admit you hate women and want to control them. Everyone who hasn't been brainwashed with religious nonsense can see it, plain as day.
@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS assault ??? coercion ??? helloooo..
Why are all the states banning it all poor lol I'm in new jersey a rich state and it's all good here
I think all women should have to see the ultrasound who plan on killing their kids so they can see what they’re killing
I think that all people that go in for surgery should be forced to be awake for it.
By that logic, before you eat animals that have been slaughtered for mean, you should have to watch footage of animals getting slaughtered for meat so that you know what you're eating
We don’t force people to look at pictures, this ain’t Communist China…..
@@technoloverish thats honestly not a bad thing, i think everyone should see the process of preparing their food at least once.
The law was unconstitutional. Lawlessness for the sake of self was the issue
I think it’s interesting that ADF is very cautious with what they say; it’s very possible for the abortion law to be reversed again but it could take 50 years.
In 50 years abortion will be banned nationwide and viewed as a stain on the history of the country
The supreme court actually just switched the decision back to the individual states. It's false for people to say that decision took away every woman's right to an abortion. Many states like New York are making sure women get to choose what works for them. They're also protecting women that travel from states that banned the procedure. Even Florida courts says their state constitution gives women the right to privacy. The supreme court decision was not a blanket ban across the country.
Hopefully never
tbh...with the mindset of the current youth...Might as well move out the country and hope that the new nation i will be arriving at has actual humans in it.
@@prexy_Pasta Not if my mandatory abortion law passes.
I have 2 sons and I chose to get my tubs tied. After my last son was born, I was diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure. My Cardiologist told me that I would die if I got pregnant again. I thought I had nothing to worry about until I did. Somehow my procedure wasn't 100% and I was pregnant. Abortion saved my life. My heart is only strong enough to take care of me.
I'm pro life but that was sad reading not going to lie
I'm glad you're ok. But I hope you understand this case is an outlier and represents less than 1% of abortion cases.
@@billyb4790 so outliers lives will just not matter enough to be concerned with? collateral damage
Disgusting choice.. True mom always choose life of her baby over herself
@@szatanowska and who would care for the three motherless children?
This is a fantastic documentary, and surprisingly well balanced.
Is that a joke?
I'm sorry for women who have to deal with the stupidity of this country, for the land of the free, removing a life choice feels certainly unfair, this is why when I can leave, I will, I never wanted to live in this backwards country, it's gone downhill for decades & I really doubt it'll get better, even if it does, it'll be sad how long it took. It has to be frustrating to hear people say stuff like this & think they're such great people, forcing views on others is even worse than feeling good about yourself. Yeah, adoption is so great, that's why there's so many children who still don't have families, but what matters is that they're alive right, not the fact they have to grow up without parents, even if they find a family, you never know the intentions of some people, how they'll really be treated, forcing someone to live through hell isn't much of a good deed
Exactly. I believe that if I can't raise my child, I am not having it at all. I don't want to give it up.for adoption
you murderer
This is pathetic. They keep saying freedom of speech but in all reality it part of their religious beliefs. How can you tell a women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. What happened to separation of church and state?
Separation of church and state was never in the constitution. Furthermore, the idea was to protect the church from the state and not the other way around. No one cares what women do to their bodies. Have you been around in the last 10 years? Women have become ugly with all of their piercings and their tattoos. Strangely no one said anything about THEIR BODIES in this situation. Why not? It's because we care about the other body that is being killed in the abortion.
The baby is not their body
@@markwilkie7633 it is when it’s inside as fetus. The fetus is much like a parasite, feeding off the mothers life force, all parasites must be destroyed at all costs !
@@markwilkie7633 It’s not a natural born citizen either so it doesn’t have constitutional rights.
@@markwilkie7633 Sure but it need the mother’s body for nutrients and development.
Why can't we have abortion clinics for girls and women that wants an abortion and also have these motherhood care for women that wants to birth a baby ? Just respecting everybody's choice and living together
because that would give women the choice and freedom that religious republicans pretend they want.
They are FAR more concerned with punishing anything outside of their narrow minded ideology. They also FIRMLY believe people who are poor or victims did something to deserve it and are completely ok with a life-long punishment for minor offenses. They are far more concerned with pushing, pressuring, and even forcing, their lifestyles on others in order to feel more comfortable themselves. They are far more concerned with keeping all their money to themselves and just paying lip service to "we love you and we care and we are here for you... so long as no one ACTUALLY makes me do it"
Republicans believe in financial autonomy, not personal autonomy.
That would be too logical
Because Republican fascists believe "freedom of religion" means freedom for their religion to dominate and oppress everyone.
Probably because at some point people will use them for the wrong reasons like they’re doing with guns now. We’re still trying to interpret and figure it out. Ultimately, we’re toeing the line of euthanasia.
they want to control women's bodies.
I get what they are trying to do but calling the "pro life" side "anti-abortion rights" is confusing at this point.
No it’s just accurate
@@LikeTotallyDonut The rebranding is going to negate the decades of previous knowledge of it. It's counter productive longterm.
What would you prefer?
Pro-life 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Amen.
“We found that women are over 3x more likely to be below the poverty level if they are denied an abortion, compared to receive it. One of the most important things to note [about the study] is that being denied an abortion affects so many aspects of peoples lives; the chance that they’re in a better relationship, the chance that they found a better job, they have more stable housing, and all of those together mean that people who are denied an abortion are less likely to have the circumstances later to have a *wanted* child. Those who receive abortions are more likely to go on and have a *wanted* child later. Under better circumstances.”
That… is a big punch to the gut. THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN UNBORN, UNWANTED FETUSES. Jfc, anyone who thinks different I can’t take seriously. Either you’re cruel or you’re lying to yourself because you’re addicted to your own self-righteousness. Shameful. Disgusting.
In the end of the day you can deny that as much as you want but you are defending killing babies, also this documentary lied when it said that 95% of women don't regret their abortion, most of them don't regret instantly but they regret later in life so idk why you're talking this video serious.
Absolutely! and I keep making this point to black and white thinkers on both sides of the debate. Abortion does not necessarily mean less child births or population control. Of the six women I know who had abortions, all went on to have more children later and all while living in more stable conditions (with a life-partner, with higher education or at least a stable job). Only 2 only had just one child. All the rest of the remaining 4 women had 2 or more children later.
@@solveigmortensen2608 "abortion does not necessarily mdan less child birth", 62 million people were killed before they were born.
Also how innocent do you need to be to believe that those womens don't regret paying someone to kill their baby, i mean if you wanna beleive their fake smiles than go ahead, but they're definitely hiding a huge pain from you.
You are absolutely disgusting if you believe any of that is more valuable than a young human being’s life.
@@samuelsouza3054 1rst) NO. I know 4 out of the 6 women very well. All but two have shared their stories with me firsthand. They have explained to me what they went through (in their decision making process to get an abortion) and said they do NOT regret it. Many of them are really joyful people, and they shared these stories with me years ago before a ban on abortion was even on the horizon. I say that to make the point, that it was not political and it was in private, one on one. There are women who regret it, but you're simply denying what others honesty tell you and others women say they do not live with agonizing pain over it. It may not fit your world view, but it is NOT the case that all women who have abortions have deep, ongoing pain over it. It's not. And, secondly Did you follow what I explained about birth rates? My point was that many of these women ended up having more kids later and probably more than if they had had to have had the kids at a younger age or in a much less stable time in their lives.
Interesting to watch this right after watching a DW documentary on postpartum psychosis where women killed their children because post natal care was too insufficient to identify the symptoms.
Every life is sacred sounds nice, but what are we as a society actually doing to help women be successful if they do in fact have the children? Apparently nothing.
Peter Griffin : I'm here to save the unborn Brian. After they're born they can go f*&k themselves
the child only matters when its not born, they couldnt care less for what happens after its born
Totally untrue, but if you're watching this propaganda and thinking it's true, you likely ate that untruth.
@@b1battledroid476 This is literally untrue, Pro-Lifers push to help children with education as well, and get CRT out of schools, as CRT creates a horrible victim mindset.
@@DJVideso "We want to help children's education, but let's deprive them of the truth by rendering them ignorant about our racist history. Talking about it just makes us feel too uncomfortable."
"There would be a piece of me out in this world that's just... somewhere, and that was devastating for me" So I'll just throw it in the trash. So 😔
The killing has been financed and done for so long. I cannnot beliebe some people believe it is better to kill than let live. Abortion factories.
So...they want to take a homeless person hooked on drugs with a documented mental disability, that's pregnant, and train them in 9 months to be a good mother?... This will be a major issue in the future
A worse issue is the support of murdering babies
It is like when I watch football in my living room, comfy, snacks in hand. Oh yes I can tell the QB exactly what he should do on every play. Put me out there with 4 guys weighing 300lb each rushing at me and the situation really gets different.
You have a better answer Deon? Let’s here it. God forbid people we keep women from killing their babies and making them better mothers. That would be fucked up right?
Go ask a kid born to a “poor” drug addicted woman and ask them if they would rather be DEAD than have a chance at a better life and education. You will answer to god at heavens gate.
I could think of a dozen ways of contraceptives, and semi permanent options for people with those issues. In some countries these women get tubes tied. Why does everyone keep preaching choice to kill but don’t prevent it in the first place? Take responsibility for your actions
I know this may be a shock but if you can’t handle the responsibility of a child then don’t have sex. Everyone negates that responsibility. They want all the fun with none of the real life responsibilities. It’s crazy the lies we fill woman with. Decadence decadence decadence
So you think married couples who don’t want children should never have sex?
No matter what your believes are, making abortion illegal, won't decrease the numbers of abortions, but increase the number of illegal abortions. Those illegal abortions will only mean less security and will criminalise women in need and doctors who want to help.
Correct. Several networks have already been formed that are providing them as we speak.
Just like making drugs illegal does not take away the demand, only produces a thriving black market for said demand.
On the margins this is true but it will save many children as a net gain
Save? You mean the children that will end up in an orphanage or in a family with no financial security? That's not saving.
But they don’t care because it’s not about saving lives, it’s about punishing women. The number one killer for pregnant women is murder. Even if they choose not to have an unsafe abortion they’re at a risk anyway.
ALL LIFE IS SACRED, BORN AND UNBORN, ONCE CONCEPTION OCCURS EVERY UNBORN CHILD SHOULD HAVE A FAIR CHANCE AT LIFE WITH ALL ITS TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS
If it has a fair chance, the woman's not going to abort it.
Some trials and tribulations are inhumane.
Then why do most states still have the death penalty? Hypocrites - rich out of touch logic
Thank God for the ADF.. We as Americans need to quit allowing our children to be sexualized at a young age and teach the value in abstinence until marriage... There will be no need for such a high demand for abortion.. Praise God and pray He saves oir kids
people should watch "We need to talk about Kevin". It's not actually related to abortion per se but it does bring up an important point on the damaging effects of having an unwanted child.
So even if say, a woman have the support and means of raising a baby, that does not take away the fact that they're still not mentally ready for it. What we get as a result is a poor/toxic relationship between mother and child.
It's a pretty tragic movie but i recommend it
Omg I read that ! Its an amazing book and I love how the author shows the contrast between a loved child who was actually wanted ( his sister) and him who wasn’t wanted from the beginning
maybe women need to make a better choice then and avoid sex if they cannot support another human being or just give it up for adoption.
@@kkdias9924 1) Sometimes women are forced. 2) You make me so incredibly angry, but I will try to keep it calm. It's not as simple as just giving it up for adoption. Do you KNOW how many kids are in the system right now that will never ever get adopted? Or even fostered? According to the most recent federal data, there are currently more than 400,000 children in the foster care system in the United States. Every year, 20,000 kids just age out of the system without being adopted. Then what?
@kk Dias a consent to sex is not a consent to pregnancy. And people don’t only have sex to procreate. Contraceptives and sex education are often under attack by the same people who want to ban abortions. And even when they’re easily accessible, they aren’t full proof and can easily fail even with zero human error. Since there’s always a risk to pregnancy from sex of course even with the most durable contraceptives, so what…women only should have sex when they were ready for it to result in a life long commitment? The average # of children per family in the US is what about two children? So We’d have sex about 2 times on average in our entire lifetimes? Should women who want no children be forced into sterility or asexuality by the state? What about the thousands who are coerced into sex if not outright raped? The if you don’t want kids then “close your legs” argument is made by morons or religious theocrats who throw all real world implications out the window and want big government not only in our bed rooms, our doctors offices, our uteruses dictating not only what to do with our bodies and our health but also this completely mythical Gilead la la land where (just women somehow, men are never addressed in this mythical land) should be more responsible and only have sex if they’re willing for it to result in a child.
@@leilanidru7506 amen!
That young mother at the end there - homeless, jobless, alone, having to beg and scrounge for the basics for survival - women in her position are going to multiply into the millions. In the meantime, legislators and pro-life advocates state how confident they are that these women and their children will be just fine, yet they don't even understand what it takes to raise a child. Women shouldn't be forced to suffer like that! We should have a f*cking CHOICE!!!
Wow your slow
Lmao I come from a poor family I’m glad they didn’t decide to murder me instead let me have a chance at life.
That means there will be millions and millions more Americans living in red states. Less need to import democratic voter's. That's at least part of this.
That's exactly it. "Don't worry, the mothers will be just fine." It'd be totally naive if it wasn't actually cruel and manipulative.
@two bears high fiving Ummm, I did that so TH-cam won't remove my comment.
Something they don't discuss is women who choose to have their child and want to give it up for adoption, but their families won't let them. You are then forced to care for a child you do not want, or face being ostracized by family and friends.
I wanted to do adoption. When I finally did, I lost family and friends who, 26 years later, still won't speak to me.
A lot of women don't want to go through that.
Yeah, but if your family would disown you for giving a child up for adoption, then there's a 100 percent chance they would disown you for getting an abortion. I don't see your point
Many lies: abortion is not health care. Come on!
Gianna Toboni is an Amazing reporter. Thank you Vice for employing such a strong person to take on this topic. I have been watching what Gianna/Vice has been putting out the past couple months and it really needs to be Mainstream. Her interviewing the Teens in Mississippi and now these interviews in this episode asking very thought out direct questions without getting more defensive or taking a side is what a true reporter should be. Yes you can tell which way this might be leaning but every thing has a lean and overall this is showing both sides very well. Thank you Gianna and Vice keep up the amazing work.
Being pro life, I would say that Giana did a fair job getting stories from both sides.
@@johnsmb5435 she is definitely a great reporter
Hearing her talk to the ADF lady was admirable. I would definitely have gotten angry during that conversation.
@@johnsmb5435 pro forced birth***
@@DeaDiabola You are right. Thank you.
To all women who have had abortions, don't write your experiences here, people will only hurt you. It's none of their business and they don't have the privilege of knowing the most important moments of your lives. Keep it to yourself and your partner.
Abortion is muder.
hey, didn't ask XD (joke)
Abortion bans on demand and without apology.
It's ridiculous that the pro life people act like they truly care if they did they would think about the situations that forced pregnancy will put people through. that is how to save a life. my brother and his girlfriend thought they might be pregnant me and my brother share a apartment with my grandpa living paycheck to paycheck barely have money and space for our selfs it wouldn't be fair to bring another life into that situation. So many reasons people should get a choice
28:55 No, the federal and state government needs to pay for that, if they don't want to, sue.
The average amount to take care of a child to adult age is $201,000(not updated), this is not including child care services. So you can add that amount.
If you’re not ready to have a kid then don’t have sex. Taxpayers dollars still have to pay for you wanting to kill your own child so the way I see it is either own up and be a responsible human, or abstain. Worst case scenario should be an adoption not an abortion.
A rubber is a buck.. Use it and stop blaming everyone else for your weak pull out game..
No hubba hubba without a rubba.
if it’s up to the state wether you can obtain basic health care, if this state can force you to carry a pregnancy to term- the state better be expanding benefits, extending time availability for SNAP, WIC, etc. families who are forced should get monthly stipends.
& before people come in with stupid a** remarks that “the government doesn’t owe you anything. just don’t have sex blah blah” - these states ARE WILFULLY CHOOSING to FORCE WOMEN to carry a pregnancy to full term, some with NO exceptions. when they know damn well that mother cannot take care of the baby due to money, housing insecurity, lack of housing/employment, or they are medically at risk/raped.
They already do through foster care dummy.
Until these people are willing to pay for these children - everything until 18, they have ZERO RIGHT - to tell anyone what to do... they care about the fetus, but the actual people they grow in to; they don't even consider at all ... disgusting...
And pay for the women’s loss of wages for the reality she now has to take the time to b a mom, which means she will automatically earn less $$ (stats show this).
How about the government pay for children on child support instead of making men pay?
People should be more responsible and they shouldn’t sacrifice their child’s life to erase their mistakes. Stop trying to shame others for not wanting to pay for your problems.
@@IndigoBellyDance amoug us?
The Govt. Want's to be a baby daddy, I'm all for it. Maybe get them in the National Guard, a little free college. Some Universal Income, SET! We'll be the greatest nation in the world.
Instead , 18 years from now, we will have more crime, more junking and more children being born fatherless....
@@nbaclashofclanspro9198 What are you going on about? It's only problem because people like you are forcing these births to come to term. It's like banning condoms and expecting people not to complain about unwanted pregnancies. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?
Giving a woman one year of resources after an unwanted delivery is like giving a diabetic one year of insulin.
"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.
Pregnancies can cause irreversible damage to a woman's body and she can even die after giving birth.
The US has the highest maternity deaths in the developed world and the hospitals bills are extremely expensive, cost of baby care with inflation in this country is rediculous and conteceptives are not a guarantee.
If a woman wants to get her tubes tied or the removal of her reproductive organs she will often be denied by doctors meanwhile a man can easily get a reversible vasectomy but will refuse.
Women should not be forced to carry and unwanted child to term and be stuck taking care of it for 18 yrs. Stop victim blaming. If you're religious you chose to follow that ideology and the rules that came with it, you have no right to impose your way of life on everyone else! Babies have no awareness, pain, conciousness or a will to live until 20 weeks.
The religious are spreading mis information on purpose for thier agenda
Women can keep their legs close and prevent the pregnancy in the first place. Also vasectomy are not reversible that's why men don't chose them.
Oh geez hush up please.
Why care about your body and not care about baby's life...
Then don't get pregnant if you don't want children
@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS What age can a girl get pregnant at?
It is gut wrenching ,horrifying and deeply saddening to see people deriving bouts of joy from the woes, suffering and sorrow of hundreds of millions of women. Even ignoring the basic human rights and decency that has been denied to half of the USA's population ,What about women suffering from preeclampsia, or any other illness drastically reducing the quality of life for both the foetus and the woman? Do the anti abortionists have any answer to the wailing of the suffering women other than to "get over it" or "if the lord can lead you to it ,he can lead you through it"?
that swhat REligious People do, they make others suffer
We rationalize that we are saving hundreds of millions of children. Unfortunately it is difficult to find common ground on this subject
@@MVGAactual congratulations! Hope you experience the same joy as you see thousands of mothers die at childbirth and see their tears as they leave their newborn baby into the callous and uncertain hands of the abysmally tragic foster home system of the USA
@@MVGAactual People like you are in the extreme minority. You know what happens when your types impose your will on others?
I want the murder of children to stop because its morally wrong.
I love watching the politician's smugness. Bet he's not so happy now. Him mentioning states like Ohio, Kansas and Kentucky which have now voted to keep abortion legal is so satisfying
You don't find yourself pregnant, you commit an action to get pregnant. Not once did they mention pregnancy prevention.
Having a baby... isn't to create a new "friend" or fill a void you already have in your life ladies. Once out of the womb it's a responsibility and commitment. Your mental/physical/financial state is critical. To have some guilt shaming by oppressive religious nuts that think America should be a real version of "the handmaid's tale" serves only their interests not yours.
Those keeping you from deciding your life and limiting you to pregnancy only, are using it as twisted social and political control.
All lies! Killing your child is not the answer. And if you do get an abortion then you have to live with the guilt and regret of killing your child!? For life!
You are not the majority
Please never use the word ‘ladies’ when trying to speak to a group of women. Also this comments makes no sense. How does your first statement relate to the last? Are you supporting women’s right to choose or are you just talking like you have no grammatical education?
@@loveinthematrix 😂
@@sippyface4888
Neither are the evangelical bimbos featured in this video.
The problem with Bible thumpers is that they assume they are the nationwide majority
The bigger issue seems to be no one acknowledging how difficult pregnancy can be unto itself or the dangers women face without appropriate oBGYN care.
I don’t think anyone is out here pro-abortion. Who wants to even be in that situation?
Well, there is an easy way to avoid pregnancy, you know! It's keeping her legs closed. Simple!
This is such a valid comment. Having an abortion is not something that I would ever WANT to do. However, I am very grateful to live in a country where I could make that choice if needed.
🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Did you never listen to pro-abortion people.
there are many crazy pro abortionists and they are an underrated influence on public opinion. They were the reason that I started to question abortion rights.
Roe v wade was one of the most weakest documents in the government.
After the case "Roe" admitted she lied and was never raped. Under normal circumstances this would lead to the case being overturned fairly quickly but the libs clung to their love of child sacrifice to Moloch for quite some time,.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m FOR abortion, their body their right. But seriously! As many protocols as there are for sex, tubes tied? vasectomy? pulll out or hell… condoms just to name a few, why aren't ya’ll more careful knowing the risk in your situation…..
Now yes, the pregnancy can be fatal or the child may be messed up but it seems to mostly be young people who aren’t careful… I mean damn! If you got the money for an abortion then……
How she felt about her abortion is exactly how I felt. It was not an impulsive decision. I cried everyday for years afterwards. It’s such a complicated and nuanced situation to be in and I wish pro life people understood that.
Unfortunately the pro life people don't care. Even the maternity centers, the donations are primarily from anti abortion people. It was their way of combating abortions. In those states, and 5 years from now if Republicans get the white house, house and Senate there's zero doubt in my mind there will be a federal ban and even liberal states are screwed.
When that's all said and done why would they fund those places? They won the fight and they can go on to cut more social safety nets while moving more taxpayer funds towards police and military.
We will wind up eventually in a Starship Troopers fascist society where citizenship is based on service to the state via military.
The right wing for 50 years have told us their intentions. And now they did it. We need to stop pretending things aren't "that bad" and find some real political change. Do nothing democrats have betrayed the electorate that put them in power. And if they aren't willing to use that power for anything, then we need to make sure they understand there will be hell to pay.
You don't have to cry now, leftists will celebrate you and cheer you on. Go girl slay that clump of cells
Yo you literally just proved that abortion doesn't do any good to anyone and you're still pro-abortion?
I’ve had a few hun and give no feks. I’d do it again in a heartbeat hahaha!
I have a son and he is happy as a clam. Spoiled as shyt. Why? Cause I’m dedicated to quality of life. Prolifers should catch a casket 🖕🥴
@@BeneGesseritSaya Thanks for proving even more that y'all are using abortion as a contraceptive.
There's always two sides to every story. The children abused should be a bigger issue. Most of the people on skid row and in prisons are effected from abusive parents. I dont see all these people against abortion opening up their homes to unwanted children. I believe in my body my choice, I was against mandates as well. I have 4 kids who are now adults but I would stand beside any sister who made their decision. I dont believe in late term unless for a medical reason. I also know parents that should not be parents ever.
Yep, same as I don't see the people that support opening our borders opening up their homes for illegal immigrants
How many kids have you adopted?
@@yakub3962 Why ask her? She's not making the situation worse by forcing birth.
@@HiAdrian no one's forcing birth.
@@yakub3962 Anti-Abortionists are
They didnt take Roe down, they left it up to the individual state to decide!!
I think that all medical choices should be left up to the individual state to decide.
They should be free to decide which demographic should be sterilized, and which should not.
They should also have the right to outlaw the provision of healthcare to the poor.
So you voted to take it down.
@@Len-jk4ziabortion for convenience isn’t medical care. A medical procedure is done to cure a disease or heal an injury. Abortion for convenience does neither of those so it is not a medical procedure
"Anti-abortion rights" is far too confusing a term. Use "abortion prohibitionist" instead.
I'm interested to know how these organizations are helping these women though out their parenthood. Most have abortions because they can't even take care of themselves, they can't afford or barely afford housing, they've been though severe trauma in childhood and can't give what they never had.
.. Do these organizations send funds for these women to raise their children though out their childhoods, make sure their housed their entire lives and raise school funds for college for these forced births?
Up to a year after labor it seems
Or you guys could just not have kids? Or give it up for adoption?
There two perfectly good answers for your terrible argument for a baby to deprived of life.
@@themanwithnonamecalledwyat7575 or everyone could mind their own business how about that?
And not to mention...if you can't afford or support a child, then take that into consideration before you lie down for a mere moment of enjoyment.
I'm pretty sure the support ends by the time the child is 2. At least that's what I gathered from the video.
The reporter did such a great job with trying to neutralize her judgment as she talked to each of the interviewees, including people with whom she disagreed. All of the open-ended questions really allowed even the most conservative people who might have clammed up to really express their position. Even if we disagreed with it - whether it's the woman who worked with Phyllis Schlafly or the 18 year old wanting an abortion at the end - we needed to hear the person explain in their own words. This is one reason I love watching Vice documentaries! They're so good at striving toward balance (even though that's difficult to fully achieve for any news program).
Oprah says her secret to great interviews is to try to approach them without judgment because "people can feel your judgment."
She tries to be nice and cute, but the message terrifies me. Because she make a lot of times the point of money, homeless women, the cost of living....I draw to the conclution that abortion is been used as a form of birth control, and not "rare". Disgusting.
@@andrear7181 It sounds like it has been to some extent. But many women in that situation also don’t have access to health insurance, doctors, or ways to get consistent birth control. You can’t buy an IUD at CVS.
@@jadecraig1082 you are shifting my point. My point is the pro choice movement is not telling the truth when they claim they want abortions to be rare. And none of the women in this video are having a abortion because of extreme causes.
@@andrear7181 That' how they are. They have to lie and since so many people don't take the time to think it through they believe it right away. This reporter is terrible and throughout the video you can see her bias and propaganda coming through.
Proud to be an Australian 🙌🏼
Abortion is not love, its not mercy, its not doing a favor for the unborn baby by putting it out of its possible suffering and misery. Its selfishness on another level & murder, period
it's clump of cells that can't even function without the mothers body, no clump of cells should matter more than a living breathing human.
@@mirkku6547 A zygote is a living human being, you do not have the right to kill a zygote
@@voluntarism335 okay then it can leave the the mothers body🥰🥰 right it can’t because it can not even function on it’s own
@@mirkku6547 Eviction and abortion are not the same thing.
@@voluntarism335 im still waiting for your reply to the other comment
There’s only 24 hrs in a day. Asking a single mom to split that out for childcare, work, cooking, cleaning, sleeping and miscellaneous tasks are unrealistic, especially for those working near minimum wage, even so when they’re homeless before the pregnancy.
maybe some of these women should choose better men. i see so many single mothers who have kids with bums.
“You cannot ask permission to abort a baby but you also cannot ask permission to bring a baby into the world” and if a mother thinks she cannot give a good enough life to an unborn child we need to force those children to be born?
Okay but if you have sex and still use protection and still somehow gets pregnant? I mean is that wrong ? You can't not go your whole life not having sex your human and have urges.
If it’s your body why do we have to pay thousands of dollars a year on it?
I guess it never occurred to them to keep their legs closed.
Probably not given that is the worst idea I have ever heard