I choose to believe that is also part of history. Seriously, if you're a mighty warlord with thousands of men under your command, why would you NOT order your ninja girls to wear revealing armour? Besides, the distration is probably going to protect them better than whatever low-tier crap the combatants with the lowest societal rank were provided anyway.
This game had its rough spots for sure but I wished they continued building on it in the sequels. Once I learned the game continued even if you lose a fight I fell in love.
@@WREPS2GOGkessen 2 was too linear, and then poof, franchise gone. Such a shame we get dynasty warriors into the double digits practically but this, nah. If koei moved to America this would be better than Total War by a landslide. Shit kessen 2 is better.
Played the crap out of the Kessen games as a kid, i had all 3 on the ps2. The first one was a bit rough yet it was enjoyable, but RTS games have always struggled on consoles so that could had easy contributed to it. I love military type games so i enjoyed this one despite not knowing about the actual history. So someone who likes these type of games can enjoy it without knowing the real historical stuff behind it. The other 2 Kessen games did improve vastly on many aspects.
Shibusawa is the oldest head honcho of Koei. He and his wife have produced historical simulations throughout 80s/90s. It's pretty understandable that they REALLY like their history. Read up on their history, it's great. koei.fandom.com/wiki/Kou_Shibusawa koei.fandom.com/wiki/Keiko_Erikawa
Even reading his foreword in Kessen, I could basically feel his excitement to have western audiences learn more about this period in japan. Thanks for the links I'll have to peep them sometime
@@WREPS2GOG His wife, Keiko Erikawa, basically invented the idea of "girl games" or Otome. She was pretty unsatisfied having no women working at Koei as well as Koei not marketing to female demographic. She released the first every Otome Angelique, which opened up a whole new segment to video game. She was also a producer on many of Koei's popular games. If you ask me, she is a model strong female game dev inspiring other females to join the industry. She belongs to the higher tier in the list of influential game industry persons.
The soundtrack in this game is awesome. I really wish this concept were revisited and maybe for PC. I would love myself a story based "Total War ish game" but on grander scale battlefields where commanders leads armies of thousands and the outcome might depend on their mood and personalities. I don't mind realism and slow pace. The idea of Kessen is great, the only problem is that the game was the first of its kind on a now very old and limited system. Proper planning and decisionmaking where the player actually has a choise would also be appreciated. Kessen 3 improved on these things to a degree and was way more fun gameplay wise as it was an actual game and not an interactive movie more or less:P But it also felt smaller and arcady. Kessen has a very special place in my heart though as the game got me into Total War. And got me interested in the Sengoku Jidai era and Japanese history. And yeah! Fuck Kobayakawa! BTW the slowdown is an emulation issue. It runs fine on PS2 hardware, but there is a bug on the latest revision of the PS2 slim (SCPH 9000 series) where the battlesound never stops and plays over cutscenes the entire time after battles until the game is restarted:/ Kessen and a handful of other early PS2 releases and some PS1 titles has various issues with the latest PS2 slim.
Thanks for the vid man. I'm a huge fan of samurais and the sengoku period history , tho i don't like RTSs , i will give this a try , just bc the history and the knowledge. And yea the Tokugawa legacy was the most important one , tho i preffer some other faces as Nobunaga , or Masamune , tho he wasn't such a big big face but , he did stuff. Anyways , thanks for the info , keep doing good videos!
Just keep in mind that it's technically an alternate "What if" story, that also explores certain scenarios as they could have unfolded had things happened differently during that time. So there's probably more "alt history" in this game than actual history. And yeah thanks for watching :)
Fukushima was a whole as bitch. I ended up just taking him off my team because he would constantly refuse my orders. Also the game wasn’t balanced at all with cannonade being OP as hell. Loved this game
The original Kessen was a unique beast. Never seen anything quite like it before, or since. And flawed though it was, I wish we had another game like it as the sequels simply were not the same thing.
Do we know all the defect characters on all sides? I have been searching online to see whether certain characters, regardless of their bias would flip.
IIRC, while I never played Kessen on PS2 hardware, the slowdowns you mentioned are most probably emulation issue - on PS2, a graphical lag wouldn't result in audio also getting slowed down and distorted
I remember this game, I remember not understanding a lot of the mechanics due to me being like 7 at the time. But I LOVED the ability cutscenes. Also, the frame drops were a problem even on ps2.
I'm playing Nioh and It seems like it deals with the same era of Japanese history with many of the same characters. Although from the looks of it you seem to have walked away with a better understanding of the situation than me. Anyway, good review man. I don't know if you take requests but I'll throw a little game called "Steambot Chronicles" out there for your consideration.
That's pretty cool, Nioh's been sitting on my shelf for a while, been meaning to play it. I'm currently going in order of release so I will get to Steambot Chronicles, but it'll take a long time. However as with all things, I might change up how I decide which games to review.
First 2 Kessens were great, put a lot of time into them, but they were buggy as anything haha. I remember this being the only console game I've ever seen just crash and reset!
He talks about Spain because during that period Portugal was annexed By Spain (1580-1640). Portugal reached Japan in 1543 when it was independent, and was influencing Japanese religion and politics.
4 years late, but the chugging is really bad on the ps2. Both this and the sequel had a lot of issue with slowdown. The 3rd game went with a more action oriented gameplay, so there is much less in that game as units feature less models over all.
I rented this game back in the day and the attack cutscenes are the only thing I remember of it. Even early into the PS2's lifetime, those animations really got tiring within the first two hours from the repetition.
Yes it was playing this as like a year old I had no idea what to do, I thought it was the same thing as dynasty warriors and I couldn't figure out what the controls were
"The game is constrained by history" Immediately shows scantily clad ninja women hopping through the trees
I choose to believe that is also part of history. Seriously, if you're a mighty warlord with thousands of men under your command, why would you NOT order your ninja girls to wear revealing armour? Besides, the distration is probably going to protect them better than whatever low-tier crap the combatants with the lowest societal rank were provided anyway.
@@RoughThiefthat is quite a thought. Mulan deserves yet another, R rated, remake.
Seeing this game brings me back to the launch of the PS2. So many titles. Great review!
This game had its rough spots for sure but I wished they continued building on it in the sequels. Once I learned the game continued even if you lose a fight I fell in love.
The branching paths is one of the coolest additions to a game like this that I've seen
@@WREPS2GOGkessen 2 was too linear, and then poof, franchise gone. Such a shame we get dynasty warriors into the double digits practically but this, nah.
If koei moved to America this would be better than Total War by a landslide. Shit kessen 2 is better.
Yeah, but... those are some sweet hats.
Played the crap out of the Kessen games as a kid, i had all 3 on the ps2. The first one was a bit rough yet it was enjoyable, but RTS games have always struggled on consoles so that could had easy contributed to it. I love military type games so i enjoyed this one despite not knowing about the actual history. So someone who likes these type of games can enjoy it without knowing the real historical stuff behind it. The other 2 Kessen games did improve vastly on many aspects.
I just came here to learn about Kessen before playing it and now I'm subbed. Cool review! I can't wait to play now.
One if the best games I have played
There is never a single redeeming thing about Kobayakawa in any form of media.
I'm happy that someone shares the sentiment
Loved this game it was my first ps2 game, the strat was good.
That's the most aggressive handshake I've seen since Predator.
Came here after playing 'For Honour'. One of my favourites on PS2!
Shibusawa is the oldest head honcho of Koei. He and his wife have produced historical simulations throughout 80s/90s.
It's pretty understandable that they REALLY like their history.
Read up on their history, it's great.
koei.fandom.com/wiki/Kou_Shibusawa
koei.fandom.com/wiki/Keiko_Erikawa
Even reading his foreword in Kessen, I could basically feel his excitement to have western audiences learn more about this period in japan.
Thanks for the links I'll have to peep them sometime
@@WREPS2GOG His wife, Keiko Erikawa, basically invented the idea of "girl games" or Otome.
She was pretty unsatisfied having no women working at Koei as well as Koei not marketing to female demographic. She released the first every Otome Angelique, which opened up a whole new segment to video game.
She was also a producer on many of Koei's popular games.
If you ask me, she is a model strong female game dev inspiring other females to join the industry. She belongs to the higher tier in the list of influential game industry persons.
The soundtrack in this game is awesome. I really wish this concept were revisited and maybe for PC. I would love myself a story based "Total War ish game" but on grander scale battlefields where commanders leads armies of thousands and the outcome might depend on their mood and personalities. I don't mind realism and slow pace. The idea of Kessen is great, the only problem is that the game was the first of its kind on a now very old and limited system. Proper planning and decisionmaking where the player actually has a choise would also be appreciated. Kessen 3 improved on these things to a degree and was way more fun gameplay wise as it was an actual game and not an interactive movie more or less:P But it also felt smaller and arcady. Kessen has a very special place in my heart though as the game got me into Total War. And got me interested in the Sengoku Jidai era and Japanese history.
And yeah! Fuck Kobayakawa! BTW the slowdown is an emulation issue. It runs fine on PS2 hardware, but there is a bug on the latest revision of the PS2 slim (SCPH 9000 series) where the battlesound never stops and plays over cutscenes the entire time after battles until the game is restarted:/ Kessen and a handful of other early PS2 releases and some PS1 titles has various issues with the latest PS2 slim.
I remember playing and loving this game back when it came out. I still have it.
I have this game on the PS2, no technical issues even years later. Played it yesterday
this is awsome man! cool idea for a channel and this video is great
One of my favorite games. I still play it often.
I played it on OG hardware and the frame drop issues are very frequent.
“We’re reviewing every PS2 game, and I mean all of them!”
-faux thab
Thanks for the vid man. I'm a huge fan of samurais and the sengoku period history , tho i don't like RTSs , i will give this a try , just bc the history and the knowledge. And yea the Tokugawa legacy was the most important one , tho i preffer some other faces as Nobunaga , or Masamune , tho he wasn't such a big big face but , he did stuff. Anyways , thanks for the info , keep doing good videos!
Just keep in mind that it's technically an alternate "What if" story, that also explores certain scenarios as they could have unfolded had things happened differently during that time. So there's probably more "alt history" in this game than actual history.
And yeah thanks for watching :)
I really wish they kept making them (But more in the style of 1 and 2, I'm not crazy about 3's gameplay.).
Imagine a Kessen Orochi.
Wait there’s a kessen 3?
Yes
It plays vastly different than 1 or 2.@@anthonylombardo1261
Fukushima was a whole as bitch. I ended up just taking him off my team because he would constantly refuse my orders. Also the game wasn’t balanced at all with cannonade being OP as hell. Loved this game
Goddam man i am so hyped for your channel
The original Kessen was a unique beast. Never seen anything quite like it before, or since. And flawed though it was, I wish we had another game like it as the sequels simply were not the same thing.
Woah that's a great channel premise, also nice video! subscribed
Do we know all the defect characters on all sides? I have been searching online to see whether certain characters, regardless of their bias would flip.
Honestly digging the voice acting :o
do you have a video where you list your top 10 best ps2 games?
IIRC, while I never played Kessen on PS2 hardware, the slowdowns you mentioned are most probably emulation issue - on PS2, a graphical lag wouldn't result in audio also getting slowed down and distorted
great review, very funny and informative, very well structured!
Hey bro, doing gods work. Thanks brother
Seems cool for a Japanese history buff nerd type who appreciates feudal Era intrigue^_-
The official sequel to Tekken. Kessen.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I love this channel with all my heart ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good review dude. I remember playing this when I first got my PS2 all thos eyears ago. Can you do Stuntman, that was a wicked good game on PS2
Great video.
Thanks
Fukushima and Yi were my boys.
there was a lot of chugging in the original hardware too. it's not an emulation issue, it's a rendering issue.
The second best hat simulator in the market.
Anyone know how to get this on pc?
Ishida Mitsunari could have won the Battle of Sekigahara if his allies remained united!
this was the game that got me interested in history of japan.
I'm sure Keiko and Yoichi Erikawa would be ecstatic to hear that
I remember this game, I remember not understanding a lot of the mechanics due to me being like 7 at the time. But I LOVED the ability cutscenes. Also, the frame drops were a problem even on ps2.
Love your channel. Hope you get more attention :)
I'm playing Nioh and It seems like it deals with the same era of Japanese history with many of the same characters. Although from the looks of it you seem to have walked away with a better understanding of the situation than me.
Anyway, good review man.
I don't know if you take requests but I'll throw a little game called "Steambot Chronicles" out there for your consideration.
That's pretty cool, Nioh's been sitting on my shelf for a while, been meaning to play it.
I'm currently going in order of release so I will get to Steambot Chronicles, but it'll take a long time. However as with all things, I might change up how I decide which games to review.
You need to stop everything and play Nioh. Its excellent.
I was beginning to think this game was just a childhood fever dream but my god it's real 1600 power rangers is real
I played this game to death as a kid. Love it.
Shogun hitting rn
It was awesome when it came out.
I literally bought this last week
First 2 Kessens were great, put a lot of time into them, but they were buggy as anything haha. I remember this being the only console game I've ever seen just crash and reset!
Please do Mark of Kri and Rise of Kasai.
He talks about Spain because during that period Portugal was annexed By Spain (1580-1640). Portugal reached Japan in 1543 when it was independent, and was influencing Japanese religion and politics.
Huh, the more you know, thanks !
I loved this game
"...Whaddya think?"
LOL
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Such a good game!!!
Dynasty Warriors Empires before it was a thing.
Loved it
Review on Mortal Kombat Armageddon be 🔥
Also known as Tekken.
I like this game, but I found it too easy.
nobunaga ambition iron triangle is much better
4 years late, but the chugging is really bad on the ps2. Both this and the sequel had a lot of issue with slowdown. The 3rd game went with a more action oriented gameplay, so there is much less in that game as units feature less models over all.
Spiel aus meiner Kindheit.... finde nach wie vor das es a gutes Spiel ist und teilweise echt schwer
oh I love tekken
I rented this game back in the day and the attack cutscenes are the only thing I remember of it. Even early into the PS2's lifetime, those animations really got tiring within the first two hours from the repetition.
Yeah, I really was skipping every battle cutscene at a certain point.
why are all ninjas girls in this game?
This look like such a pain in the ass to play lol
Yes it was playing this as like a year old I had no idea what to do, I thought it was the same thing as dynasty warriors and I couldn't figure out what the controls were
I love Kessen 3 but Hanzo is better than Okatsu sorry okatsu lovers 😊😊
Man I loved this game as a kid. Why you be trashing it😭
Oh, no. Other cultures, but I’m an American! This is the only place that matters, and I don’t have all the world’s knowledge at my fingertips...
I loved this game