Agreed. Knowledge is half the battle. Equality in however each society take on it is; is better that secondary humanity classification. I was recently reading a book by Kenya's founding father Jomo Kenyatta on his tribe and the practices before the colonial British rule of East Afrika. And he offered a legendary explanation for the "current" Patriarchal system in the tribe; which was founded as a matriarchy; I wish for more answers than "..legend has it that...". To his fairness which he also acknowledges.
I read somewhere that “ *Tradition is peer pressure from dead people* “ and I felt it deeply. I was born an unwanted female in a highly patriarchal society and felt like a mistake from the moment I drew breath. In spite of being told of my inherent lack of value, it never made sense to me and I fought against it, sometimes for my own survival. I’ve lost count the number of times that I’ve been told by people from my culture as well as the “progressive Western society” that I eventually migrated and assimilated into that “we do things this way because it was always done this way”. To that I’ve always argued “But why continue doing things in a way that does not make sense today?”. It’s as if we are willing slaves to masters that are no longer alive and have no way to punish us for breaking their rules. This felt especially true for women who support the patriarchy, because unlike men, it’s a net negative for us. Without the patriarchy, we can still have the positive aspects we may value - be it the skills and practices of cooking, sewing etc, or having a division of labour within a household that maximised each person’s interests and strengths - but with the ability to choose for ourselves instead of leading a life of subjugation. Humans used to ingest mercury and let out ‘bad blood’ when we got sick, but we don’t do that anymore because we now know better. It seems that we are willing to forego ‘traditional practices’ that result in the harm and death of men and women but are unwilling to change the ones that only harm and kill girls and women.
Why? indeed. we are all living in a system that benefits a very few at the expense of everyone else, as well as all life on our planet. the system doesn't change because those in power gain their power from maintaining the status quo, they divide and distract us. I love your comment, thank you for taking the time.
One of the most common outcomes from doing better is rejection by family and community. "Why do you always have to cause trouble?" and "You think you're so smart." My sister happened to have the fastest car in the city. They had no problem accepting this. She didn't have to race anybody. But attending and doing well at a university was considered an affront a provocation. It only takes a few steps in a better direction to see that being rational, scientific, building on positive results leaves tradition in the dust. For you and many, this first happens early in childhood. You emigrated. Good. Often this is the best thing a young person can do. They are not going to change. Stupidity often seems to be incurable.
@@akshatjain2775 Exactly--Karl Marx. Read anything about struggle sessions under Mao to annihilate the past and create a new society--of communist hell. Read the Wall Street Journal "100 Years of Communism-and 100 Million Dead: The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history." Then idolize and quote Karl Marx.
@@greywolf7577You’re equating government with patriarchy, which in itself is already telling. You’re making the assumption that patriarchy is the only and best system of leadership. You can avoid anarchy by also having government and cultural norms _not_ based on patriarchal ideals and practices.
@@lurategh It's just the logical derivation from the statement that if x is natural then it would not need to be maintained via force. A government, or at least its laws, is maintained by force. Hence, a government is not natural, hence it must be... bad? Generally I think it's bad reasoning to invoke 'naturalness' to argue for or against something. X being natural can only ever be a point about how things are, not a point about how things should be. Strength of argument aside, I agree that patriarchy is bad. People should just be equal regardless of gender.
The Chalice and the Blade boom goes back even further if you want to read about partnership societies before domination societies. Her research outs the turning point around 3500 BCE.
I recently deconstructed Mormonism and now find it astounding that I just accepted patriarchy as normal for so many years. Thank you for helping me to learn more about patriarchy & how we can move forward. May your channel grow quickly & reach millions!
Congratulations on escaping! I grew up ultra orthodox Jewish, but lived down the street from an old folks hime for retired priests and nuns, and I attended Baptist Christian School. Some of my cousins were Mormon LDS and not FLDS. BUT I DID GET ASKED TO JOIN A FLDS couple as a second wife. They were both extremely attractive. I said, “no” of course. Religious doctrine is wicked! When we divorce ourselves from equalitarianism, all hell breaks lose
I’m Navajo and we’re traditionally matriarchal and matrilineal. I recall being taught how Hammurabi’s Code was such a monumental part of civilization, but they never shared what was actually written! So enlightening, Ahe’hee.
Example of swinging too far the other way and how that power structure looks favourable to woman so they want it instead of equality. It’s same as how the Barbie movie ended
100%! the subtlest behavior screams "i'm not someone you should hang out with because i don't want to understand you and your struggles", and it's so common, yet, they call it edginess.
This is why study of indigenous societies is important. Because in the place we call the Americas, the patriarchal norms discussed in this video were not necessarily the same. Benjamin Franklin copied Haudenosaune (Iroquoian) governing principals as part of the basis for the post English American government. In Haudenosaune culture, women held important roles as managers of the long houses and organizers of domestic affairs in towns. Children were considered to be under the care of the mother not the father. Haudenosaune culture was matrilineal. Men left their clan’s long house to live with their wive’s family. Women could divorce men by putting his belongings outside the house. Linguistically in Kanien’ké:ha (Mohawk), the feminine pronoun is the default. In many other indigenous societies women traditionally had more freedoms and rights than European descended contemporaries. So had those indigenous societies not been so marginalized by warfare and treaty breaking from settler colonialists, more egalitarian cultural norms might have been more prevalent in what is now the US and Canada.
I think that agriculture has something to do with this since humans had to settle in order to care and collect the harvest. Women have always worked the land while men were in charge of hunting and defending the tribe. Once hunting-collectors settled down, property was made the most important thing to protect as families's legacy and from there, slavery and patriarchy followed.
@@Lyrielonwind actually this is what male archaeologists had us believe for so long, but it's been proven that women did participate in hunting too, and I don't think they could spare anyone to defend themselves when the tribe was under attack. Also, the indigenous people of the Americas did practice agriculture too. I do think religion has more to do with how things were done, than with agriculture, although it might be a mix of things. But in the pre-columbian religions, many of the gods are females and the power of the feminine is acknowledged and welcomed, while Babylon and all the civilisations after them, had male gods praising wars, bloody sacrifices and slavery, these gods already raped women, enslaved men and ate children for a living.
@@Lyrielonwindthe idea that men exclusively hunted and women mainly did “domestic” chores and gathering berries is a modern day assumption which is not entirely supported by evidence. Patriatchy affects scientific thinking as well as historical and anthropological analysis.
That’s because the patriarchy that USA in European countries follow his back by a ⚪️😒 one And they want to show that they have dominance on who is considered the hierarchy of the patriarchy
We can now see that the choices made thousands of years ago have implications on the present of incredible magnitude. What we do today matters. How we treat each other and how we raise our children matters. This is such empowering information and encourages us not to conform to ideas we feel are wrong simply because it is easier to go with the flow.
@@vklnew9824 , your comment is how you find the incels. You are def an weak guy, whi thinks feminist killed Socrates. What a stupid comment fo make. Another woman hating dude. Get out.
The modern West has a super abundant number of laws protecting women including a biased family court system. Men are regularly stripped of their resources and children without just cause. This is indisputable. The U.S. has rightly been called a Gynocentric Society.
Would she ever do a video on the topic of OVER-correcting? For decades, the US has had laws on the books called "VAWA". That stands for Violence Against Women Act. Yet the Constitution states that it provides equal protection. So why not title a law to make it clear that it simultaneously protects, say, a husband from a hyperviolent wife? Phil Hartman would be an advocate. Except for the fact that he can't. Because he's dead. Killed less than 4 years after VAWA was signed into law. Yet each time this law gets renewed, no one changes it. No one fixes it. So that it conforms to the guarantee that is the US Constitution. I'd say this topic is worth at least one video. Akin to how one sure test of a feminist is to ask about their position on registering for the draft.
@@dahawk8574 I think it's ridiculous to have laws about a specific gender. Why not stating that ALL the laws should protect everyone, no matter their gender?
@@dahawk8574we should ban the draft lmao, idk why yall want women to be drafted as well. Most actual feminists oppose the draft entirely, you’re saying a whole lot of nothing man.
Your channel is SO important. As a guy living in 2024 right now with all of the hard-right younger guys coming up raised on TikTok and the alt-right, it’s really rough out there trying to talk about issues of feminism and patriarchy without being subject to audible groans and angry comments. Thank you for keeping up the good fight!
"it’s really rough out there trying to talk about issues of feminism and patriarchy without being subject to audible groans and angry comments" Yeah, I'll bet the flat-earthers and creationists get the exact same responses.
Guess what? Those same issues helped to push the MAGA movement, the Tate's, the Peterson's and the "tech-bros" to where they are now. You are just as vulnerable to the algorythms as them, btw. Most of us are. For a long time I feared the reaction and here we are. It will get worse, so brace yourselves. We probably have 5 to 10 years of a rising tide of this. That is if everything goes well. Oh, btw, that intersectional feminist stuff is on life support. People have rejected it time and time again. Find another religion.
I loved the analogy of trying to build on top of, or work around, old systems instead of tearing them down and building up something better. Thank you for speaking out in such a rational way about abortion rights. That is such a heated topic, but the way you presented them was kind and straightforward. This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite subscriptions. Thank you for the time you put into presenting these topics in an approachable way that will hopefully help us all want to do better for ourselves and future generations.
@@Kontingency_Operations, thst is your own opinion. The fact that it bothers you mean it is working, the way it is supposed. OK. Your stupid name says alot. Crusader? You do know they murdered alot of people based on a book. That tells me alot about you.
Those foundational laws are so awful! I hate that in 2024 we can still feel their footprint. Thank you so much for introducing me to Gerda Lerner. You're my modern Gerda and the world is lucky you're choosing to be our teacher.
Is patriarchy the natural order? The fact that you point towards the evidence that women have always at least a small fraction of them been in resistance to patriarchy to me shows that it is not the natural order. If it was, you would not see the consistent resistance over the last 6000 years.
Same as Abrahamic religions, they are fake, unnatural spirituality based on falsehoods and the idea of woman as inferior to men, an afterthought, rather than an equal as well as a goddess.
" the evidence that women have always at least a small fraction of them been in resistance to patriarchy to me shows that it is not the natural order." That's the opposite conclusion you should draw. If patriarchy wasn't the natural order, we would see *large* amounts of resistance to it. If only a small fraction, across all cultures, are resisting it, that means the majority of men and women all know that the system works, and is more nuanced than feminism's one-sided theories.
@@AlexReynard you seem to be the one looking at this from one side. For an example, are you aware of the situation for women in Afghanistan right now? There is a reason why it was considered the worst country on the planet to be a woman in 2023. The women who *have* been able to get their voices heard say they feel very alone, with no where to turn and very little power to do anything. Now imagine if that was the entire known world but worse. I am very certain there would’ve been a lot more *large* uprisings in the past if they had the power to do so. I guess what I’m trying to ask is: do you really think it is a natural state to be suppressed or a suppressor? If so, you should really read Nietchze, because he’d be right up your alley. I, personally, disagree with him but even he puts emphasis on not holding women back from their full potential. Not a single ethical theory would back you up on this, I think, except for pure nihilism.
@@AlexReynardmmm, no. Just because you don't see the resistance, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Women talk about it all the time, but often don't think there's anything they can do to change it. What's causing that? Patriarchal beliefs cause that...round we go. For thousands of years now. Wake up.
If it wasn’t the natural order, the resistance would have won. I would say that it is demonstrably the natural order, as evidenced by its relentless record of victories to the opposition throughout all of recorded history. If you were to study and compare the inherent observable traits of men and women, statistically, at scale, you would find clear evidence in support of men being the default natural selection for leadership of men and women. You will also find that both men and women will overwhelmingly choose men for leadership roles everywhere throughout the world. They do this without the hypothetical study I mentioned, ie “naturally”. It’s good to question things and think critically about such systems to better understand and address the world around us, but don’t let the exercise replace reality
A practice can be imposed in one generation...become "normal" a generation later...then it becomes "traditional"...and then those who benefit from it declare it to be "god's will." When I was a christian, every marriage and relationship class my wife and I took part in - EVERY SINGLE ONE - started and ended with the requirement for the wife to submit. Even as a christian I thought this was insane. A really interesting book I just finished reading is Debt: The First 5,000 Years by David Graeber. He's an anthropologist, not an economist, so takes a unique view to the topic. Among other things, he traces the interconnection between debt, the invention of money, and war - and how the consequences of debt on families led to men forcing the withdrawal of women from public life, and the increasingly brutal patriarchy that resulted.
First, women in the West, since the time of St.Augustine, have been treated far better than in other civilizations. This is due to Christianity and the Germanic tribes, who had a liberal view toward women. Think about the Virgin Mary, St. Augustine's mother Monica, and all the other female saints. They were venerated. Second, Patriarchy is central to Christianity for these reasons: 1. The trinitarian source of all things is the Father. 2. All beings in heaven and earth bear the name of the Father (Ephesians 3:14-15). 3. The divine names of the Persons of the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) are eternal and without change. They are not culture specific. 4. The universe is headed and ruled by the Father. It is a Patriarchy. 5. The OT Patriarchs were all men as is implied by the word Patriarchs. 6. The 12 Apostles were all selected by Jesus and were men matching the Patriarchs. (See the 24 Elders of Revelation). 7. The Apostles Peter and Paul designated men as the head over women. And they told wives to obey their husbands. 8. The first specific Gentiles converted were Cornelius and the Philippian jailer who were fathers heading households. 9. The elders who lead the church are to be fathers who "rule" their children well. A patriarch is a Father-ruler of an oikos. Hence, the church is an expanded household ruled by men, preferably fathers.
@@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf A paragraph claiming that the christian west isn't patriarchal, 'cuz "Mary." Followed immediately by a list of reasons why patriarchy is the will of god (thus proving my point regarding your religion, by the way). Make up your mind, dude. Is christianity not patriarchal, or completely patriarchal?
Since I have graduated from university with 25 I was consistantly asked about my fertility in job interviews even it is not allowed legally. Now, I am 35, mother of 2 boys, I am asked about child care and about the gaps in my qualification while raising children. The best of it, my husband was never asked how he manage to work with two little ones. I do not know but this sucks more and more....
That's in Germany, right? I notice from your grammar and sentence structure, as well as your name, that you are probably a native German speaker... Yes, many of my clients in German companies share the same experience as you. Unfortunately that is still prevalent due to employers fearing that their female employees will take extended maternity leave. In the US with only six weeks maternity leave it's a bit different. Women are forced to quit their job completely if they take longer than a six-week maternity leave.
@@AlexReynard Seems like you're coming from a patriarchal stance. I notice that @lidijakrebs1297 is most likely writing from Europe where extended maternity leave AND paternity leave are a LEGAL RIGHT. I have known men in Europe who have taken up to 10 months paternity leave for a new baby. So her point being that men should ALSO be questioned in job interviews about their future family planning. Different than in the US.
@@Xianne027 I remember reading an autobiography when I was 12 about a woman navigating being a single mother in the US. Couldn't get an abortion, worked until she went into labor, and had to go back to work after just 2 weeks I think. Depressing af
I have a poster on the wall that says, "I'ts a beautiful day to smash the patriarchy," which is next to another poster that says "no cages, no gods, no masters." Thank you for sharing.
@@neogery if you believe in any evidence you could only believe that without respecting rules that makes sense; which usually occurs in tradition, there is no improvment and so and wisdom..you dont change history with trash talking but with doing some action..
I read a story in Reader's Digest as a child, that had been submitted by a woman about when she was about 5yrs old. When baking a ham roast, her mom would cut off a third and place it beside the bigger piece (even though it was in a large pan) before placing the ham in the oven. She asked her mother why she cut the ham. Her mom said her mother did this - it probably made the ham cook better or faster. Her mother then called her own mother to ask why. Her mother said the same thing. The girl's grandmother then talked her own 92 year old mother who said: I had a square pan and unless I cut the ham roast, it wouldn't fit in the pan I had. So 87 years and 3 generations later, they had continued a practice (making assumptions as to why they were doing it), because they didn't ask why.
The stories that you read remind me of how strongly I reacted to feminism, and how positive it was in my life, how it helped me see myself as equal to a man in every way, and I could see quite clearly that men didn’t see me that way and it was just super easy to just reject them just let them go And now I own my own house and live a very peaceful life, which is what I was hoping for
Men are the creators of life while also being the architects of virtually all of human culture, society, knowledge, infrastructure, and technology. It literally makes perfect sense for us to be celebrated, respected, and worshiped by women.
@@infernityable1369creator of life? Last time I checked yall seem more concerned about controlling when women bring life into this world lmao. Y’all simply destroy, take and rape everything and everyone, yall simply use rape and violence as a means to hold and maintains power, it’s what yall have done for centuries.
I find this channel so relatable. I have family who still believe that men naturally have the last word in their household, and there’s nothing I can say or do that would convince them otherwise. But change has to come from within. Once they have a change of heart, I’ll direct them here. Please continue the good work!
If the husband is the head of the family then yeah he has the last word. If it's a non traditional equal partnership relationship then they need to reach consensus.
@@treacherousjslither6920 In my household, I'm the sole breadwinner, and my husband is a SAHD. By your account, should he have no say in how we run our home?
EXCELLENT presentation!!!! Clear, non-biased and provocative in the best ways possible. We MUST end this toxic and horrific system which has no place in modern societies. Thank you for your work!!!
I feel sorry for those women who got their mouth broken by fire bricks, and got impaled without getting buried, and plunged into the river without knowing how to swim.
Absolutely brutal. In context, was this seen as a favorable outcome for the women? Otherwise they would have been beaten or killed by the men they publicly disgraced or insulted, potentially punished for extended periods of time or in perpetuity. Was this a law to protect women from men in a way that would have been practically possible back then? Whereas, without this law the punishment was often far worse? But since the idea of justice and the social contract was nothing like we envision it in modern times, not allowing something so harsh as a brick to the face would be unreasonable? It’s sometimes difficult to understand what is lost in translation with our modern eyes and ears looking back. Regardless, a brick to the face law is a wild example of how brutal life and society was for everyone back then
Is there a law that prescribes the treatment of men under similar circumstances or was the adulterous male counterpart, for example, just killed, or unpunished? Considering the typical male response to such a situation is hostile toward both parties **involved**, I wonder what was accepted recourse for the man caught sleeping with another man’s wife **or publicly slandering/humiliating**. Surely a man is naturally inclined to kill another man for the crimes described
We have a very good idea what societies were like before the militarization of society, Minoan Crete, the Indus Valley Civilization and the city of Saba in Yemen are all shining examples of the advanced Matrilinear civilizations with all the technical knowledge and none of the war and slavery. There is also a continuity to this culture alive today in places like North Africa and Southern Spain.
You are using a very cherry picked abs idealized way of thinking. War and slavery aren't just things that male dominated societies do and they aren't purely evil things. Our behaviors often serve a purpose we can't comprehend. Even slavery served a purpose by a larger society increasing its productivity and a smaller one increasing its social capital.
@@Bradley_Lute Nice try. While it is true that there is evidence of violence in Chatal Hyuk, the fact that all dwelling are the same size as we see in Mohejo Daro as well as the advanced hydro engineering for the use of the entire community. What people did after the Yamnya conquest was a declining compromise that was finally squashed by monotheism. See the Basque region.
The colonizers in the US wiped out the Native American tribes (which were largely matriarchal). I wish we had a country/place that was a living example.
there are still 2-3 groups living on the matriarchal system. In these groups, women own property, cooperation is the rule. The children stay in the mother's family and her brothers act as fathers figures. No one cares who a woman gets pregnant with is, so there is no need for marriage/ control of women's body to make sure the kid is her husband's. She knows the kids are hers, and what she owns will go to her daughters. Men provide for the household of their mother, or they can choose to go and live in their gf's house, providing for her and her family. They have no power, no ownership, so no need to fight for anything. Women are protected, it's a peaceful life. But these men are now the exception and they meet other men from the neighbouring groups, living in a patriarchal system. These men have power and riches, so the men in matriarchal groups are jealous and whine. It wouldn't take much for them or the neighbours to use violence to kill and steal territories and riches from these women. I guess that's how most matriarchal groups were destroyed in the first place and replaced by a world of warriors.
@@KayAnn2121 actually there are studies pointing out that women live longer because the matriarchies. Women's knowledge and wisdom were needed for the tribe to survive. Still proven to be of high importance in today's remaining tribes.
My half sister is Seneca. She has inherited her family land from her maternal line; the reservation land rights are matrilineal. They are still here and deserve justice.
As a professor of anthropology & archaeology, thank you SO MUCH for this video!! This is an *exquisite* explanation of stratigraphy (both of ideas and of buildings) and the origin of social structures - I plan to use this video in all my classes moving forward, no exaggeration. Thank you for your wonderful and important public education work!!!
I wish I kept info from another creator where she was sharing another piece of history: that because women created life, they were considered gods and therefore were extremely important and scared, and therefore respected. Then one day one single dude spun it all around and deemed women weren’t. This caught on and boom, patriarchy. Lots of women’s history has been re written and erased by men to make themselves look better and have taken accomplishments done by women.
Men who rose in position of power wanted more lands, more people to force to work so he could steal more riches from their labors. In order to do that, those men needed a surplus of land laborers, and soldiers to invade and pillage their neighboring tribes-countries. Therefore, women were forced to have as many children as it was physically possible, to make up for the losses. No more social roles, teaching roles, ruling roles, they had to be kept at home and push out babies, laboring for their husbands. In order to make other men complacent to their servitude, men in power allowed the lesser common man, laborers, to act up as tyrant within his home. If the masses (men) could by tyrant with their wives and children, they were less likely to revolt against their own tyrants, sharing a fraction of their abusive power. Home was their own little kingdoms where they could lash out their frustrations on their family. That's how patriarchy came to be. Psychopathy made culture.
My sisters, you are a powerful, wealthy, wise, victorious, free woman, and you will succeed in every thing you do. You have special gifts to bring this world and you should only demand that you are treated with humane dignity, respect, kindness, courtesy and good manners or that man who needs to go. This next four years will be a powerful, gold path for you to succeed and prosper and you will do powerful good in this world!!!! Get rid of that ridiculous myth that believes in a creation story that destroys itself and blames women for bringing "evil" into this world -- the person that creates -- it is unhealthy for us to believe in. Women bring good into this world. We are powerful and we are powerful TOGETHER!
Wow love way you put this information together. I can’t wait to show my husband and kids. This is fascinating and heartbreaking, but also incredibly enlightening. Thank you! ❤
@@vklnew9824 says the internet troll with nothing better to do than harass random women thinking your opinion would actually matter to us. Go back under your bridge!😆👋🏻
Yeah, and I suspect they were enforced BECAUSE many weren't happy about them. Smacks of coloniser / imposed by the "winner" of a war - how to demoralise and silence half the population in 1 step
The power of recording a law: it is recorded before the crime was committed, therefore is applied impersonally. This settles any idea that someone is being unfairly targeted It often defines acceptable punishment and acceptable evidence and who bears the burden of proof. This often results in more favorable outcomes for the offender in situations where death would be common practice when the victim or public is judge/jury/executioner. Either by prescribing an execution method (not excessively cruel and painful) or ruling out death as punishment **it also often prescribes monetary compensation or labor compensation in lieu of physical harm or unfair/unequal looting** For those not at the top of the hierarchy, it seems to imply that the law is binding to everyone equally, as opposed to a “rules for thee and not for me” policy. **Not that it is always the case, but it is implied** The social contract relies heavily on recorded law. Without recorded law, a society doesn’t really exist. Because the social contract is a give and take. You wouldn’t sign a blank contract and accept the free meal without knowing what will be demanded in return
0:13 Yes, well as soon as something is written down, it becomes harder to amend, as opposed to verbal records. It is why I hate books as much as I love them.
I absolutely loved your channel! I ended up binge-watching the entire thing in just one day, and now I’m sad it’s over 😢. Thank you for sharing such a gem of content-positive, informative, and hate free. It’s truly something I’ll treasure forever. I wish you loads of success.
I think it would have been interesting to highlight and contrast the (contemporary to them) society of ancient Egypt, where women did have property rights, could both inherit and and buy property in their own right, where could could initiate divorce (with the issue being resolved ibn a very modern court proceeding and division of property) where women could even defend themselves in court! Women could represent themselves in court without requiring a male guardian. Court cases, like those preserved in the Heqanakht Letters, show women bringing disputes over property or inheritance before local judges. Women could engage in all sorts of legal contracts as independent entities The Demotic papyri document women lending money, leasing land, and participating in business deals. Women could even rise to the highest office in the Land , that of pharaoh, such as Hachepsut or Cleopatra.
Hatred and control?… Love and leadership Men sacrifice themselves for their families. I’ll go fight the war so you can raise the children You’re welcome
It's exploitation and greed, pure and simple. In my opinion, marriage and the family unit were the first corporations, the first foundational economic units. This a world built for men to succeed and dominate in a world that seems finite and full of competition. I can tell you in the most ancient of days, women did not live with the men they mated with (matriarchal societies). I can guarantee they do not have the atrocious rates of male on female violence we see today in patriarchal societies. I read the book "Society Without Fathers" no woman had ever claimed rape in a society that eschewed marriage.
The root is biology. 👩👩have weak body with disadvantages like periods, birth pain. estrogen makes u shorter in height and testosterone increases ur height.
It’s so powerful how the examples aren’t given verbally, but with cuts to registers of them. We get to acknowledge them with the silence of focus, memory and grief. Words are great, and she’s masterful on getting through multiple things in such a small runtime, but pictures are worth a thousand of them and it feels like so. Great video, can’t help but become a subscriber
I’m curious to what life was like before patriarchy. I need something to compare this to. Like, I wonder why the felt it had to take such extremes to take the stance and change culture and I guess laws to what it became.
You and me both. I'm doing a deep dive into early Sumerian literature and highlighting the roles of women. The predominance of women is evident for several thousand years before the Code of Hanurabi. In Inana's stories, she gives the kings power. for thousands of years, they had to wed her to have divine rights to rule. She was responsible for justice, and was learning the art jurisprudence when she was raped. She listened to his lame ast story, sentenced him to death, and to having his story told in taverns as warning. Her role as chief justice was taintined when she was syncretized with Ishtar and her warrior aspect was the focus of her worship. That's when shit went downhill in the middle east. Before that, it was all about culture, people learning to work together, and abundance.
@@jenniferflower9265 The quickest dive would be for you to look at the actual Sumerian translations of the Gilgamesh and Bull of Heaven stories. In the first one Inana tells him that he can no longer enter or dispense justice in her temple. She and the widows are attempting to check his misbehavior, because Enkidu didn't do what he was supposed to. They just became bro dudes, murdered the protector of the cedar forest, then clear cut them. In that version the he's playing some game with the cities boys, won't let them rest, while they complain of the pain in their throats and butts. Well, most male translators say it's necks and hips, but a woman translator told me that body words are pretty vague, so that's what I take from it. The more popular story is after she was syncretized with Ishtar. That's the one where Gilgamesh insults her and accuses her of abusing her husbands. Peggy Reeves Sanday determined there is a a statistically significant relationship between warrior cultures and violence against women. That hold true with the rise of city states in Sumeria.
Agriculture is to blame. It was a task requiring tremendous upper body strength. And the males took the societal imbalance and ran with it when they should have re-established the balance.
i think it varies a lot depending on what communities/cultures/time periods you're examining. as another commenter mentioned here, the physical strength that agriculture requires is possibly the foundation of modern patriarchy. but there are other societies that practiced early forms of agriculture that were/are largely matriarchal and matrilineal (possessions/property are passed down through the mother's side). for example, there are a good number of native american tribes that are traditionally matriarchal, even though many native american tribes did practice agriculture, and were very skilled in growing their own cultivated crops long before europeans arrived in the americas. so it varies a lot depending on the time, place, and people. i also think abrahamic religions, and the spread of those religions through colonization and genocide, plays a big role as well.
I’m sorry. That must have been confusing and somewhat horrific to hear your mother say this to you. How sad for her to believe such nonsense about her relationship to your father and to you.
From the anthropological perspective this is video has a lot of Euro-centric assumptions. Eurasia is not the only land mass on this planet and its cultures are not the oldest. They are just the most _familiar_ to _you_. The oldest continuous culture is around 50,000 years old and it is in Australia. Assuming that patriarchy has an origin in time and place is a bit weird. I know its a common assumption and probably "common sense" to a lot of people but common sense assumptions do not bring about academic break throughs. Assuming that patriarchy was made up as a culture like a group project and handed down in any way similar to the way we live today is also an assumption. In fact searching for origins is very much a Judeo-Christian preoccupation. Centring on Mesopotamia because it's easier to imagine that culture than someone else's is bound to lead to erroneous conclusions. The Mayan calandar is possibly 3000 to 5000 years old but they were not able to connect with Europe so that culture doesn't get counted? Australian aboriginal nations do not seem to be connected to Europe so they're not counted? They didn't write in a way that Europeans recognise, so they don't get counted? If we keep assuming that "western" (west of what?) culture is the pinacle of human civilisation we will keep making dumb assumptions about reality.
Yes. And if I'm not mistaken, some of those other societies (a lot of them? Most of them?) were patriarcal to some degree too. It seems to me that we tend to easily form patriarcal dynamics, and that some social systems (like States) tend to make it more widespread.
Matriarchy is equality, where everybody, regardless of gender, contributes with what they are good at. In such a society, we work as a community, helping each other raise children, where hierarchies are non-existent. This is what the Patriarchy is fighting against because then they lose their power and control. Some cultures in the past lived a more matriarchal lifestyle, but lo and behold! When that was discovered by the Patriarchs, these societies were either eradicated or converted into a patriarchy by force.
It makes me so sick. Women being beat while the law sits back and allows it even to this day in the USA. Also to this day, women are punished but not men in all these "crimes".
Women have never been the primary victims of any form of violence in our species' history. They also haven't ever been the primary targets of any government's policing efforts or prison system.
This is amazing. Thank you. The discussion on patriarchy has become so toxic, with many people even denying it altogether, or making it into a hate against men. I agree whole heartedly that it's our responsibility not to perpetuate the systems. It's interesting to notice when men and even women become anti feminist in this day and age, and deny men's privileges. The problem with any privileges that we're born with is that we are blind to them. Not only that, we are taught by our family and culture to adapt or protect these privileges in completely subconscious ways. That's why we need men to recognize, accept facts and correct their position, and not be intimidated by change, and not take it personal when patriarchy is what is criticized and not men. Men suffer from patriarchy too, but are still afraid to lose their position...however, it's subconscious. When both men and women are conscious, we can't go on denying the fact that laws, norms and opinion are stacked against women even today. And, to break the patriarchy, both genders need to grow up. None of us are victims either. We have got to work together to change the systems.
kind of a misleading title this didnt even teach us about the origins of the patriarchy. she just went into detail about time periods where patriarchal laws and practices were ALREADY in play. i was hoping to learn where and how it originated prior to all this.
I often tell my son of the importance of him not feeling he needs to hold his feelings in & that it's okay for him to talk, specially if he feels upset or frightened. I'm hoping this will go a little way to countering the patriarchal message that men are weak if they show emotion, which can then result in their suppressed emotions or the pressure of needing to be the sole provider, bursting out into self-harm and/or violence to others, particularly their partners. It's gutting society's made so little progress dismantling the patriarchy.
Many Native American societies saw women as equal to men, allowed them to make important decisions and own property. Native women did most of the work keeping their societies together as men got to 'play' all day hunting and fishing.
If you think hunting and fishing is "playing" then you have a warped view of what work is. Hunting and fishing was often more work than what the women did.
@@greywolf7577 Hunting and fishing is more fun than most jobs these days. My point was more about how men's work and womens work were equally important to Native societies.
My favourite thing about being Irish is we literally have no Womens clothing in our Irish (not anglo-Irish) archeological records. Everyone wore Lèine and customised then as they see fit. The Brits had to bring in Sumptuary Laws to ban the Lèine and then saffron, when it came time for the Plantations.
wow, my stomach dropped at many points in this video. i’ve thought many times about the origins of patriarchy and i’m so happy to have came across this video!
You know what, I've actually been to the Middle East & travelled around Egypt, Jordan, Palestine & Syria visiting & researching archaeological sites. If you look at the archaeology, you see that human settlements in the region date back maybe even a million years, & that Matriarchal societies dominated for millennia before the dawn of patriarchy & the written language, via the clear evidence of ancient goddess temples to Hathor & Isis in Qena & Sinai, & the ancient Sphinx lioness warrior goddess Sekhmet in Cairo. There is even written evidence that the origin of the bible was based on rewriting preexisting matriarchal narratives & reinventing them with patriarchal tropes with the dawn of writing as part of the opposition & intent to subjugate women. There is a reason for this, & evidently the men wouldn't have risen up against the female goddesses if it wasn't for the same reasons of subjugation, witchcraft, natural disasters & blaming women for their own abuse of power, murdering children, witchcraft, communication with snakes, exploding volcanoes, tsunami floods, asteroids, magic, cannibalism & sexual slavery. You know the same stories we see with blaming Eve, witches & their association to black magic, vampirism, cannibalism & the mafia in the modern age. Personally, I think we need a clean slate & to start again, respecting equality for all in the modern age, while promoting more vegetarianism to heal our planet & human society in the modern world, for a new age to truly begin.
If ancient society was Matriarchal, then maybe men were standing up against being treated as second class citizens. Maybe they wanted to teach women what it was like to be second class citizens, the same way the men had been. So perhaps the patriarchy of today was caused by the abuses that the matriarchal systems caused.
Greetings, Ma'am! I admire how non biased the presentation of your content was. Would you mind quoting the sources so I could look into them for further research? Thank you!
Women have been valued and venerated throughout all of history. Almost every man has a mother and at least one woman who he will lay down his life to protect. Not some heroic mythical man of lore, nearly every man, from smart to dumb, rich to poor, virtuous to depraved, strong and weak. There has never been a people who’s male population wouldn’t die protecting their mothers wives sisters and daughters. There have always been evil men along the way too, sometimes they lost their lives to the good men who were protecting their societies, sometimes the evil men were the victors. Sometimes you could hardly tell the two apart. When you take a moment to consider things, you notice that men are traditionally the romantic element of love. The grand gestures, impractical displays, irrational financial expenditures are all ways of expressing this commitment and the element of sacrificial devotion. Women are typically the object or subject of romance rather than the purveyors of romance, but not exclusively. You’ll see this evidenced heavily in poetry song lyrics and other artistic expressions. This element of romance being predominantly masculine doesn’t denote a lesser capacity for devotion in women at all. It’s simply an observable expression of the practical nature of men and women fulfilling their duties to one another and their offspring, and their ancestors if we want to go so far. There is great practical importance of a woman preserving her life and a man sacrificing his life. The circumstantial element of a man fighting another man to the death to protect women Is actually a seldom fully appreciated necessity. **This will help to maintain the ratio of men and women which will curb a scarcity of mates and it also translates to a higher probability that his offspring survive and reproduce** And the self preservation for women is essential because a woman who preserves her life preserves life itself. The potential impact of a mother successfully raising a single boy or girl to adulthood can be massive. There doesn’t seem to be any advantages to a dead woman. Anyway, tangent tangent rant rant. The sacred goddess cow is sat beside the bull so that he may be tortured and accountable. It’s a suitable and prudent position held by the most venerated and valued figures. Anyone who posits that women aren’t the valuable ones can’t tell the difference between man, his ego, and their roles. What a cunning and useful game this duality has created
There never was a time before the fighting. There has always been fighting as long as there has been limited resources, which has always been the case in one way or another.
Ancient texts were basically men talking to other men. All we can learn from them is what men thought at a time where the patriarchy had already been established and the earlier goddess based societies had already started to disappear. Have you read "The Alphabet Versus the Goddess: The Conflict Between Word and Image"? Basically, symbolic communication is very left brain (male) where intuition, body language, other forms of communication is much more attuned with the right brain, feminine energy. When did goddesses of power start to become demonized? Or turned into goddesses of sex and love? For example, the evolution of Ishtar into Venus as the patriarchy began to take hold. Clues as to the more ancient history can be found in the many goddess statues and other depictions which predate the written word.
I don't think it is quite great to rely on stories about "female brain" vs "male brain" and feminine energy" vs "masculine energy " if your point is to challenge the structures that were built on these narratives. Surely, the brains between biological sexes might me somewhat different, just as the bodies, but that is minimal and mostly related to physiological functions. The differences between the sexes are real! But it only stretches into the reproductive parts of us (which is not necessarily just the genitalia). Femininity and Masculinity are ideals we created because we are still simple creatures who like stories and like to belong. They're kind of like a costume we wear to interact with one another, even when no one is there (because we are extremely social, we perform even when the group isn't physically present). I discovered that questioning these things and trying to distance myself from them has allowed me to be more happy, to not limit myself to whatever performativity I consider negative at times.
@amaedron_ I think you misread my point. I was in know way talking about the differences between the brains of the biological sexes, but rather the differences in the brain hemispheres that are present in both biological sexes. We may wish to completely destroy the concept of binary, but we will have to abandon the English language to do so as it is pervasive. I am speaking of the common scientific idea of masculine/feminine as commonly presented in the literature of both biology and psychology. For example, giving is considered masculine, while receiving is considered feminine. That is not to say women don't give and men don't receive. Positive and negative, don't relate to good and bad. Look at a battery. It's bad if you don't have both a positive and negative pole as both are required for the battery to work. Of course these constructs of language may have a gender bias, which was exactly my point, but we are a bit stuck with them if we want to discuss these things in the English language via the written word. I could probably make my point much better by just playing the piano for you, but we have both chosen to engage in the patriarchal form of communication.
@@cindyjames1326 You OVER-simplify and create a binary when speaking about the two hemispheres of the brain. Women are not more right brained and men more left brained. That is a myth. No basis in science or reality. Your example of giving is considered masculine and receiving is considered feminine is NOT biology or psychology. It is myth. It is story which is fine, but don’t assert that it is hard science because it isn’t. Your whole thesis belongs in an English Lit class not a biology class.
@@cindyjames1326the thing is you cannot say that those differences are biological cause scientifically there are no differences between a female and a male brain. The "differences" that you might be refering to are caused by the societal expectations that are put on girls and boys that basically changes the way their brains recieve information and communicate, it isnt biological is social
I loved how you started with and presented the whole video by quoting the references and the whole video is solely build on historical facts...thus avoiding unnecessary controversies...great work
Im subscribing and i hope it helps boost this video and reach enough people, i hope we can learn from our roots. Many laws and systems are outdated and misinterpreted or built with ill-intentions. Revisiting history is building a better future, for all of us. Thank you for this video ❤❤
Funny as my dad was an archaeologist and the field arose in patriarchal societal systems dominating cultures for thousands of years effecting the ideas and attitudes of academia,
I love how you can tell that she enjoys making these videos. She clearly loves what she does, even if the actual reality of the information she dispels onto us is grim.
All of our eastern North American Indian Nations were matrilineal. Florida archaeologists go with the Spanish accounts for the Calusa, making them patrilineal. The Spanish world view at that time was of monarchies. The Calusa would have been matrilineal as well. Think Americaa
Sounds like the North American Indian nations were pretty sexist, just in ways that benefited women. No wonder the men protested and changed the system. They didn't want to be treated like second class citizens any more.
This video is interesting, but so depressing, I had tears in my eyes. Why does mankind seem to be like this right from the beginning? Like we are capable of empathy and decide against it. Instead we invent monstrous punishments.
I love your videos. Sometimes they are difficult to watch. How different things would be if 1/2 of the world’s population weren’t subjugated in some way. If everyone could live up to his or her potential we’d have a wonderful world.
10:25 I suspect that Hammurabi/Babylonian laws over female sexuality was to assure husbands that wives were faithful. It was self-evident that a new child is the mother's biology but not obvious to be the father's. While husbands were away from home for long periods, (i.e., hunting, gathering, or wartime), wives were home raising kids, and potentially sexual with another man. (The gap here is that husbands may also be sexual while away, yet those husbands could deny pregnancies they started.) Today, DNA flags both father and mother of a new child; during the Hammurabi's era, a husband had to trust that children borne by his wife were his biology. My point here is that patriarchy favored men to assure them the women, as child-bearers, were faithful while the men were away. ~ Aside, I am not a trained social scientist; my statements here are my guesses. Thank you for producing this new series; I look forward to more episodes as you share your knowledge, distilled from your multiple college degrees.
I think it’s obvious that men seek to control women’s sexual behavior to try to guarantee the paternity of children in the household. With DNA tests more available, more people have become aware that some fathers and grandfathers were not biologically related to them. There is a strong urge for most to bond with children that are biologically related. Step children often are not treated as well as biological children.
That may be the common assumption. But WHY is it an issue that men know what child they contributed sperm to make? In a differently structured society, it could well be that that isn't even a concern. It's all tied up in "ownership" of resources - of women, their bodies, capital/ objects/ the environment. So if THAT particular concept was restructured then the fundamental flaws might be resolved. People didn't think monarchies could end... but they do
I think human are probably by natural design a bit like orcas. Both male and female have the tendency of mating with multiple partners. We are both social creatures living in some sort of clans (be it biological or found families). Females would live way pass menopause and help with guiding the community and raising the offsprings. Different clans speak in different languages or have specific dialects and tend to not be very welcoming towards “outsiders”. But we became way more smarter and created many man-made things including different social structures that oftentimes only benefit a selected groups of people at the expense of the rest. I don’t think we should or can revert back to any of the more primal stages, be it “traditional lifestyle” or the matriarchy, but the current system definitely has rooms for improvements. We should at least be willing to make changes instead of dying stubbornly on the hills of some sort of ancient lifestyles.
Ancient Egypt had relatively liberal laws, especially regarding the role of women. But they did not prevail, as Islam had quite a different attitude toward women.
Islam also has a high regarding view towards women. Women can work, keep all their moneyand assets themselves no one else has a right to it, they can get educated and have fulfilling lives if they wish. Yall see modesty and hijab as opprrssion. But its not. Wveryone does their part. Men lower their gaze and women cover up. Modesty is an important characteristic of the religion.
....... there are quite literally no explicit sources for the ancient Egyptian society at large, so the first part of your claim is just bs. And the second one js just misinfo
But we live in a chimpanzee society (male warrior patriarchy), not a bonobo society (female nurturer matriarchy). And religion keeps the patriarchy alive.
I'm firmly convinced that religion (particularly the Abrahamic ones) were in fact invented to validate and justify the patriarchy that men wanted to impose. Women hold the ultimate biological power - they menstruate, gestate, parturate (give birth), and lactate. Men can do none of these things and their control over reproduction of the human species ends at the tip of their willies. Before paternity tests, men had no way to know if the kids their partner had were theirs, whereas a woman always knows her own child. I believe that some early men felt impotent and powerless in the face of these biological facts, and to make themselves feel important and powerful, they invented the idea of male warrior gods who had created women as simple sexual vessels and incubators. Patriarchy and male dominance is not the "natural order" for humans or for many other species. Female spiders kill and eat the males. Honey bee workers (who are all female) will kill male bees and throw their bodies out of the hive after they mate with the queen. Many female mammals form matriarchal groups and do not simply submit to any male who wants to mate with them - they chose when and where and with whom to mate, and woe to any male who tries to force the issue. Females of many species will drive males away and even kill them at all times except when actually mating. There's a saying that I find particularly salient: "A handful of women with a teaspoon of sperm is a viable species. A world full of men with an ocean of ova is an extinct species". Therein lies the rub for men.
Bonobo society often isn't nurturing. The female bonobos often take the better food or sleeping spaces and are violent toward any male bonobo who doesn't give them preference. I feel bad for the male bonobos and wish that they could band together to stand up against the abuses from the females.
Such an informative video, thank you so much for spreading the truth! You really have to read history to learn about why humanity is the way it is, and how we can change for the better
Thank you for creating this CRITICAL content. We need this now more than ever!!! (mourning 2024 US election). 😭😫 I've liked, subscribed, and now commented.
She said men who are alive today didn't invent patriarchy, but yes men did invent it thousands of years ago. She discusses this point about inheriting systems. You may want to rewatch the video.
You only have to observe other primates, like chimpanzees, to see why there is patriarchy in humans. It is about individual physical power. Not to encourage anything in modern times, but a woman with a gun is as powerful as a man with a gun. There are cases where women have top status, Queens Hatshepsut, Cleopatra, Elizaberth(Br), Catherine(Ru), Isabella(Sp), etc. The other interesting thing is that women may be the more important humans. Every person born has only their mother's mitochondrial DNA, not their father's.
We have less sexual dimorphism than bonobos and they have a clear matriarchal society, and they don't have guns. It's about physical power, sure, but cooperation and various ecological and social context can change the direction of it, not just guns
But men have more diverse DNA. Men have both a Y and an X chromosome while women only have two Xs. It is the man's DNA that decides whether the child is male or female, not the woman's.
While we're not responsible for the systems we inherit, we are responsible for the systems we perpetuate.
Agreed. Knowledge is half the battle.
Equality in however each society take on it is; is better that secondary humanity classification.
I was recently reading a book by Kenya's founding father Jomo Kenyatta on his tribe and the practices before the colonial British rule of East Afrika. And he offered a legendary explanation for the "current" Patriarchal system in the tribe; which was founded as a matriarchy; I wish for more answers than "..legend has it that...". To his fairness which he also acknowledges.
Shave your head and take over the world
Bing Bing we got a winner yes this is the main issue! 🎉
Perfectly stated!
Systems "perpetuate" themselves. The most efficient win.
I read somewhere that “ *Tradition is peer pressure from dead people* “ and I felt it deeply. I was born an unwanted female in a highly patriarchal society and felt like a mistake from the moment I drew breath. In spite of being told of my inherent lack of value, it never made sense to me and I fought against it, sometimes for my own survival. I’ve lost count the number of times that I’ve been told by people from my culture as well as the “progressive Western society” that I eventually migrated and assimilated into that “we do things this way because it was always done this way”.
To that I’ve always argued “But why continue doing things in a way that does not make sense today?”. It’s as if we are willing slaves to masters that are no longer alive and have no way to punish us for breaking their rules. This felt especially true for women who support the patriarchy, because unlike men, it’s a net negative for us. Without the patriarchy, we can still have the positive aspects we may value - be it the skills and practices of cooking, sewing etc, or having a division of labour within a household that maximised each person’s interests and strengths - but with the ability to choose for ourselves instead of leading a life of subjugation.
Humans used to ingest mercury and let out ‘bad blood’ when we got sick, but we don’t do that anymore because we now know better. It seems that we are willing to forego ‘traditional practices’ that result in the harm and death of men and women but are unwilling to change the ones that only harm and kill girls and women.
Why? indeed. we are all living in a system that benefits a very few at the expense of everyone else, as well as all life on our planet. the system doesn't change because those in power gain their power from maintaining the status quo, they divide and distract us. I love your comment, thank you for taking the time.
One of the most common outcomes from doing better is rejection by family and community. "Why do you always have to cause trouble?" and "You think you're so smart." My sister happened to have the fastest car in the city. They had no problem accepting this. She didn't have to race anybody. But attending and doing well at a university was considered an affront a provocation. It only takes a few steps in a better direction to see that being rational, scientific, building on positive results leaves tradition in the dust. For you and many, this first happens early in childhood. You emigrated. Good. Often this is the best thing a young person can do. They are not going to change. Stupidity often seems to be incurable.
"The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living..." - K. Marx
@@akshatjain2775 Exactly--Karl Marx. Read anything about struggle sessions under Mao to annihilate the past and create a new society--of communist hell. Read the Wall Street Journal "100 Years of Communism-and 100 Million Dead:
The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history." Then idolize and quote Karl Marx.
@@marjoriepeak8795 Did he take away your grandfather's slave plantation or something?
if patriarchy was natural, it wouldn’t need to be maintained via force, violence, and threats….it would just be
By that definition, no government is natural. But we know that anarchy doesn't work.
@@greywolf7577You’re equating government with patriarchy, which in itself is already telling. You’re making the assumption that patriarchy is the only and best system of leadership. You can avoid anarchy by also having government and cultural norms _not_ based on patriarchal ideals and practices.
@@lurategh It's just the logical derivation from the statement that if x is natural then it would not need to be maintained via force. A government, or at least its laws, is maintained by force. Hence, a government is not natural, hence it must be... bad?
Generally I think it's bad reasoning to invoke 'naturalness' to argue for or against something. X being natural can only ever be a point about how things are, not a point about how things should be. Strength of argument aside, I agree that patriarchy is bad. People should just be equal regardless of gender.
The Chalice and the Blade boom goes back even further if you want to read about partnership societies before domination societies. Her research outs the turning point around 3500 BCE.
right like women wouldn’t have evolved with men we literally would have just stayed underdeveloped like male bees or something
how many geniuses have we lost to patriarchyy, racism, slavery? break the hammer.
@@pm8725 don't drop out of school.
@@pm8725you’re clearly not one of the geniuses.
Cutting out half the intelligence of the human species was dumb idea
Exactly!
@@pm8725really? How ignorant.
I recently deconstructed Mormonism and now find it astounding that I just accepted patriarchy as normal for so many years. Thank you for helping me to learn more about patriarchy & how we can move forward. May your channel grow quickly & reach millions!
Hey, same!
Congratulations on escaping! I grew up ultra orthodox Jewish, but lived down the street from an old folks hime for retired priests and nuns, and I attended Baptist Christian School. Some of my cousins were Mormon LDS and not FLDS. BUT I DID GET ASKED TO JOIN A FLDS couple as a second wife. They were both extremely attractive. I said, “no” of course. Religious doctrine is wicked! When we divorce ourselves from equalitarianism, all hell breaks lose
Hey me too! The Mormon patriarchy is horrific. I just found this channel and I am loving the content!
How will we move forward?
Patriarchy is normal. Feminism is a disgusting aberration that universally leads to the destruction of a society.
I’m Navajo and we’re traditionally matriarchal and matrilineal. I recall being taught how Hammurabi’s Code was such a monumental part of civilization, but they never shared what was actually written! So enlightening, Ahe’hee.
Wow there's so much to learn from your culture and history. I love, see and connect with every thing I hear x
All the really civilised and well ordered nations were matriarchal.
I admire and respect your culture. So much more civilised and reasonable than our present system.
Kudos to your culture which I've always admired
Example of swinging too far the other way and how that power structure looks favourable to woman so they want it instead of equality. It’s same as how the Barbie movie ended
The stain of misogyny is still on this mortal coil and it’s hard for me to ignore. It’s quite noticeable to me but many people are blind to it.
I hate that it's so normalized
@@MayDay-yn3bw, agreed.
When I say it outloud, or call things for what they are, they always get mad or annoyed lol. It sucks being indoctrinated fr
100%! the subtlest behavior screams "i'm not someone you should hang out with because i don't want to understand you and your struggles", and it's so common, yet, they call it edginess.
This is why study of indigenous societies is important. Because in the place we call the Americas, the patriarchal norms discussed in this video were not necessarily the same. Benjamin Franklin copied Haudenosaune (Iroquoian) governing principals as part of the basis for the post English American government. In Haudenosaune culture, women held important roles as managers of the long houses and organizers of domestic affairs in towns. Children were considered to be under the care of the mother not the father. Haudenosaune culture was matrilineal. Men left their clan’s long house to live with their wive’s family. Women could divorce men by putting his belongings outside the house. Linguistically in Kanien’ké:ha (Mohawk), the feminine pronoun is the default. In many other indigenous societies women traditionally had more freedoms and rights than European descended contemporaries. So had those indigenous societies not been so marginalized by warfare and treaty breaking from settler colonialists, more egalitarian cultural norms might have been more prevalent in what is now the US and Canada.
I think that agriculture has something to do with this since humans had to settle in order to care and collect the harvest. Women have always worked the land while men were in charge of hunting and defending the tribe.
Once hunting-collectors settled down, property was made the most important thing to protect as families's legacy and from there, slavery and patriarchy followed.
@@Lyrielonwind actually this is what male archaeologists had us believe for so long, but it's been proven that women did participate in hunting too, and I don't think they could spare anyone to defend themselves when the tribe was under attack. Also, the indigenous people of the Americas did practice agriculture too. I do think religion has more to do with how things were done, than with agriculture, although it might be a mix of things. But in the pre-columbian religions, many of the gods are females and the power of the feminine is acknowledged and welcomed, while Babylon and all the civilisations after them, had male gods praising wars, bloody sacrifices and slavery, these gods already raped women, enslaved men and ate children for a living.
Yeah man it's wild how so many of things wrong with the world can be traced back to Europeans.
@@Lyrielonwindthe idea that men exclusively hunted and women mainly did “domestic” chores and gathering berries is a modern day assumption which is not entirely supported by evidence. Patriatchy affects scientific thinking as well as historical and anthropological analysis.
That’s because the patriarchy that USA in European countries follow his back by a ⚪️😒 one
And they want to show that they have dominance on who is considered the hierarchy of the patriarchy
We can now see that the choices made thousands of years ago have implications on the present of incredible magnitude. What we do today matters. How we treat each other and how we raise our children matters. This is such empowering information and encourages us not to conform to ideas we feel are wrong simply because it is easier to go with the flow.
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@@vklnew9824 , your comment is how you find the incels. You are def an weak guy, whi thinks feminist killed Socrates. What a stupid comment fo make. Another woman hating dude. Get out.
Time to disregard backwards ways
Dumb 2 Dumber 4 Dumbest criminal systems
THIS
Those stats about the modern day lack of laws protecting women is so disheartening, but important to recognize.
The modern West has a super abundant number of laws protecting women including a biased family court system. Men are regularly stripped of their resources and children without just cause. This is indisputable. The U.S. has rightly been called a Gynocentric Society.
Protecting women is patriarchy.
Would she ever do a video on the topic of OVER-correcting? For decades, the US has had laws on the books called "VAWA". That stands for Violence Against Women Act. Yet the Constitution states that it provides equal protection. So why not title a law to make it clear that it simultaneously protects, say, a husband from a hyperviolent wife? Phil Hartman would be an advocate. Except for the fact that he can't. Because he's dead. Killed less than 4 years after VAWA was signed into law. Yet each time this law gets renewed, no one changes it. No one fixes it. So that it conforms to the guarantee that is the US Constitution.
I'd say this topic is worth at least one video. Akin to how one sure test of a feminist is to ask about their position on registering for the draft.
@@dahawk8574 I think it's ridiculous to have laws about a specific gender. Why not stating that ALL the laws should protect everyone, no matter their gender?
@@dahawk8574we should ban the draft lmao, idk why yall want women to be drafted as well. Most actual feminists oppose the draft entirely, you’re saying a whole lot of nothing man.
Your channel is SO important. As a guy living in 2024 right now with all of the hard-right younger guys coming up raised on TikTok and the alt-right, it’s really rough out there trying to talk about issues of feminism and patriarchy without being subject to audible groans and angry comments. Thank you for keeping up the good fight!
Because Feminism is cancer. Why Matriarcies fail th-cam.com/video/AfsZjKv_fw0/w-d-xo.html
"it’s really rough out there trying to talk about issues of feminism and patriarchy without being subject to audible groans and angry comments"
Yeah, I'll bet the flat-earthers and creationists get the exact same responses.
Bless you! We women appreciate men who support us.
@@AlexReynardexcept the flat earthers are wrong and stupid
Guess what? Those same issues helped to push the MAGA movement, the Tate's, the Peterson's and the "tech-bros" to where they are now. You are just as vulnerable to the algorythms as them, btw. Most of us are.
For a long time I feared the reaction and here we are.
It will get worse, so brace yourselves. We probably have 5 to 10 years of a rising tide of this. That is if everything goes well.
Oh, btw, that intersectional feminist stuff is on life support. People have rejected it time and time again. Find another religion.
I loved the analogy of trying to build on top of, or work around, old systems instead of tearing them down and building up something better. Thank you for speaking out in such a rational way about abortion rights. That is such a heated topic, but the way you presented them was kind and straightforward. This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite subscriptions. Thank you for the time you put into presenting these topics in an approachable way that will hopefully help us all want to do better for ourselves and future generations.
Yes, great analogy
We build on top of what works. Systems that fail horribly (feminism) don't get built on top of.
@@Kontingency_Operationswhy do you feel it’s working?
@@Kontingency_Operations BOT
@@Kontingency_Operations, thst is your own opinion. The fact that it bothers you mean it is working, the way it is supposed. OK. Your stupid name says alot. Crusader? You do know they murdered alot of people based on a book. That tells me alot about you.
Those foundational laws are so awful! I hate that in 2024 we can still feel their footprint. Thank you so much for introducing me to Gerda Lerner. You're my modern Gerda and the world is lucky you're choosing to be our teacher.
Thank you so much! That means the world to hear.
Is patriarchy the natural order? The fact that you point towards the evidence that women have always at least a small fraction of them been in resistance to patriarchy to me shows that it is not the natural order. If it was, you would not see the consistent resistance over the last 6000 years.
Same as Abrahamic religions, they are fake, unnatural spirituality based on falsehoods and the idea of woman as inferior to men, an afterthought, rather than an equal as well as a goddess.
" the evidence that women have always at least a small fraction of them been in resistance to patriarchy to me shows that it is not the natural order."
That's the opposite conclusion you should draw. If patriarchy wasn't the natural order, we would see *large* amounts of resistance to it. If only a small fraction, across all cultures, are resisting it, that means the majority of men and women all know that the system works, and is more nuanced than feminism's one-sided theories.
@@AlexReynard you seem to be the one looking at this from one side. For an example, are you aware of the situation for women in Afghanistan right now?
There is a reason why it was considered the worst country on the planet to be a woman in 2023. The women who *have* been able to get their voices heard say they feel very alone, with no where to turn and very little power to do anything.
Now imagine if that was the entire known world but worse. I am very certain there would’ve been a lot more *large* uprisings in the past if they had the power to do so.
I guess what I’m trying to ask is: do you really think it is a natural state to be suppressed or a suppressor? If so, you should really read Nietchze, because he’d be right up your alley. I, personally, disagree with him but even he puts emphasis on not holding women back from their full potential. Not a single ethical theory would back you up on this, I think, except for pure nihilism.
@@AlexReynardmmm, no. Just because you don't see the resistance, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Women talk about it all the time, but often don't think there's anything they can do to change it. What's causing that? Patriarchal beliefs cause that...round we go. For thousands of years now. Wake up.
If it wasn’t the natural order, the resistance would have won. I would say that it is demonstrably the natural order, as evidenced by its relentless record of victories to the opposition throughout all of recorded history.
If you were to study and compare the inherent observable traits of men and women, statistically, at scale, you would find clear evidence in support of men being the default natural selection for leadership of men and women. You will also find that both men and women will overwhelmingly choose men for leadership roles everywhere throughout the world. They do this without the hypothetical study I mentioned, ie “naturally”.
It’s good to question things and think critically about such systems to better understand and address the world around us, but don’t let the exercise replace reality
A practice can be imposed in one generation...become "normal" a generation later...then it becomes "traditional"...and then those who benefit from it declare it to be "god's will." When I was a christian, every marriage and relationship class my wife and I took part in - EVERY SINGLE ONE - started and ended with the requirement for the wife to submit. Even as a christian I thought this was insane.
A really interesting book I just finished reading is Debt: The First 5,000 Years by David Graeber. He's an anthropologist, not an economist, so takes a unique view to the topic. Among other things, he traces the interconnection between debt, the invention of money, and war - and how the consequences of debt on families led to men forcing the withdrawal of women from public life, and the increasingly brutal patriarchy that resulted.
First, women in the West, since the time of St.Augustine, have been treated far better than in other civilizations. This is due to Christianity and the Germanic tribes, who had a liberal view toward women. Think about the Virgin Mary, St. Augustine's mother Monica, and all the other female saints. They were venerated.
Second, Patriarchy is central to Christianity for these reasons:
1. The trinitarian source of all things is the Father.
2. All beings in heaven and earth bear the name of the Father (Ephesians 3:14-15).
3. The divine names of the Persons of the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) are eternal and without change. They are not culture specific.
4. The universe is headed and ruled by the Father. It is a Patriarchy.
5. The OT Patriarchs were all men as is implied by the word Patriarchs.
6. The 12 Apostles were all selected by Jesus and were men matching the Patriarchs. (See the 24 Elders of Revelation).
7. The Apostles Peter and Paul designated men as the head over women. And they told wives to obey their husbands.
8. The first specific Gentiles converted were Cornelius and the Philippian jailer who were fathers heading households.
9. The elders who lead the church are to be fathers who "rule" their children well. A patriarch is a Father-ruler of an oikos. Hence, the church is an expanded household ruled by men, preferably fathers.
@@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf Keep your bigotry to yourself.
Interesting
@@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf A paragraph claiming that the christian west isn't patriarchal, 'cuz "Mary." Followed immediately by a list of reasons why patriarchy is the will of god (thus proving my point regarding your religion, by the way).
Make up your mind, dude. Is christianity not patriarchal, or completely patriarchal?
@@MayDay-yn3bw The book is worth the read, I recommend it.
Since I have graduated from university with 25 I was consistantly asked about my fertility in job interviews even it is not allowed legally. Now, I am 35, mother of 2 boys, I am asked about child care and about the gaps in my qualification while raising children. The best of it, my husband was never asked how he manage to work with two little ones. I do not know but this sucks more and more....
Gosh, I can't fucking imagine why businesses would be reluctant to hire someone who might suddenly have to vacate their position for several months.
That's in Germany, right? I notice from your grammar and sentence structure, as well as your name, that you are probably a native German speaker...
Yes, many of my clients in German companies share the same experience as you. Unfortunately that is still prevalent due to employers fearing that their female employees will take extended maternity leave.
In the US with only six weeks maternity leave it's a bit different. Women are forced to quit their job completely if they take longer than a six-week maternity leave.
@@AlexReynard
Seems like you're coming from a patriarchal stance.
I notice that @lidijakrebs1297 is most likely writing from Europe where extended maternity leave AND paternity leave are a LEGAL RIGHT.
I have known men in Europe who have taken up to 10 months paternity leave for a new baby.
So her point being that men should ALSO be questioned in job interviews about their future family planning.
Different than in the US.
@@AlexReynardGosh, I wonder why women stop wanting to get married or have kids in this environment.
@@Xianne027 I remember reading an autobiography when I was 12 about a woman navigating being a single mother in the US. Couldn't get an abortion, worked until she went into labor, and had to go back to work after just 2 weeks I think. Depressing af
I have a poster on the wall that says, "I'ts a beautiful day to smash the patriarchy," which is next to another poster that says "no cages, no gods, no masters." Thank you for sharing.
I love that!!!
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How will you feed yourself??
@jackdeniston6150 dusty delusional childishness
@@jackdeniston6150 umm… we have always fed ourselves
Tradition is the death of wisdom.
I am going to use this line from now on! its so nicely put, short and to the point and the absolute truth! totally made my day!
Tradition is wisdom passed down from generation to generation. Modernism is realizing that Tradition doesn't always serve.
Wisdom comessss from tradition..
@@Nature123-m4y yes, we learn what not to do!
@@neogery if you believe in any evidence you could only believe that without respecting rules that makes sense; which usually occurs in tradition, there is no improvment and so and wisdom..you dont change history with trash talking but with doing some action..
I read a story in Reader's Digest as a child, that had been submitted by a woman about when she was about 5yrs old.
When baking a ham roast, her mom would cut off a third and place it beside the bigger piece (even though it was in a large pan) before placing the ham in the oven. She asked her mother why she cut the ham. Her mom said her mother did this - it probably made the ham cook better or faster.
Her mother then called her own mother to ask why. Her mother said the same thing. The girl's grandmother then talked her own 92 year old mother who said:
I had a square pan and unless I cut the ham roast, it wouldn't fit in the pan I had.
So 87 years and 3 generations later, they had continued a practice (making assumptions as to why they were doing it), because they didn't ask why.
Such a great example of how we often continue to do things generation after generation without really going back and asking why.
So... patriarchy continues because women don't think?
Fabulous analogy
@AlexReynard so, men are deliberately reductive and obtuse?
@@AlexReynard choices and powers
The algorithm has done well, loving your work!! Thank you Queen!!
The stories that you read remind me of how strongly I reacted to feminism, and how positive it was in my life, how it helped me see myself as equal to a man in every way, and I could see quite clearly that men didn’t see me that way and it was just super easy to just reject them just let them go And now I own my own house and live a very peaceful life, which is what I was hoping for
Men are the creators of life while also being the architects of virtually all of human culture, society, knowledge, infrastructure, and technology.
It literally makes perfect sense for us to be celebrated, respected, and worshiped by women.
@@infernityable1369🤔
@@infernityable1369nah homie
@@infernityable1369 "creator of life"? wishful thinking...
@@infernityable1369creator of life? Last time I checked yall seem more concerned about controlling when women bring life into this world lmao. Y’all simply destroy, take and rape everything and everyone, yall simply use rape and violence as a means to hold and maintains power, it’s what yall have done for centuries.
I find this channel so relatable. I have family who still believe that men naturally have the last word in their household, and there’s nothing I can say or do that would convince them otherwise. But change has to come from within. Once they have a change of heart, I’ll direct them here. Please continue the good work!
If the husband is the head of the family then yeah he has the last word. If it's a non traditional equal partnership relationship then they need to reach consensus.
@@treacherousjslither6920, either way it needs to be mutual. Wtf? No.
@@treacherousjslither6920 In my household, I'm the sole breadwinner, and my husband is a SAHD. By your account, should he have no say in how we run our home?
@@treacherousjslither6920he doesn’t
EXCELLENT presentation!!!! Clear, non-biased and provocative in the best ways possible. We MUST end this toxic and horrific system which has no place in modern societies. Thank you for your work!!!
I feel sorry for those women who got their mouth broken by fire bricks, and got impaled without getting buried, and plunged into the river without knowing how to swim.
Horrible smh
Do you also feel sorry for the orders of magnitude more men who were conscripted to war because they were men, and died deaths just as brutal?
Absolutely brutal. In context, was this seen as a favorable outcome for the women? Otherwise they would have been beaten or killed by the men they publicly disgraced or insulted, potentially punished for extended periods of time or in perpetuity. Was this a law to protect women from men in a way that would have been practically possible back then? Whereas, without this law the punishment was often far worse? But since the idea of justice and the social contract was nothing like we envision it in modern times, not allowing something so harsh as a brick to the face would be unreasonable? It’s sometimes difficult to understand what is lost in translation with our modern eyes and ears looking back. Regardless, a brick to the face law is a wild example of how brutal life and society was for everyone back then
Is there a law that prescribes the treatment of men under similar circumstances or was the adulterous male counterpart, for example, just killed, or unpunished? Considering the typical male response to such a situation is hostile toward both parties **involved**, I wonder what was accepted recourse for the man caught sleeping with another man’s wife **or publicly slandering/humiliating**. Surely a man is naturally inclined to kill another man for the crimes described
@@AlexReynardyou’re mad about things men didn’t other men .
How are you unable to grasp that ?
Fantastic information, great sources. I love this vital work.
Just started listening to your podcast. It’s incredible. So excited to support this TH-cam channel ❤🎉
Thank you so much for your support!
We have a very good idea what societies were like before the militarization of society,
Minoan Crete, the Indus Valley Civilization and the city of Saba in Yemen are all shining examples of the advanced Matrilinear civilizations with all the technical knowledge and none of the war and slavery. There is also a continuity to this culture alive today in places like North Africa and Southern Spain.
You are using a very cherry picked abs idealized way of thinking. War and slavery aren't just things that male dominated societies do and they aren't purely evil things. Our behaviors often serve a purpose we can't comprehend. Even slavery served a purpose by a larger society increasing its productivity and a smaller one increasing its social capital.
@@Bradley_Lute Nice try. While it is true that there is evidence of violence in Chatal Hyuk, the fact that all dwelling are the same size as we see in Mohejo Daro as well as the advanced hydro engineering for the use of the entire community. What people did after the Yamnya conquest was a declining compromise that was finally squashed by monotheism. See the Basque region.
@@Rechargerator Matrilineal is still sexism. It seems like you support sexism as long as women benefit from it.
As a wheelchair user, it would sure be nice to have societies that are inclusive.
The colonizers in the US wiped out the Native American tribes (which were largely matriarchal). I wish we had a country/place that was a living example.
I believe there are matrilineal groups in parts of Chjna and parts of Saharan Africa ( Touaregs)
there are still 2-3 groups living on the matriarchal system. In these groups, women own property, cooperation is the rule. The children stay in the mother's family and her brothers act as fathers figures. No one cares who a woman gets pregnant with is, so there is no need for marriage/ control of women's body to make sure the kid is her husband's. She knows the kids are hers, and what she owns will go to her daughters.
Men provide for the household of their mother, or they can choose to go and live in their gf's house, providing for her and her family. They have no power, no ownership, so no need to fight for anything. Women are protected, it's a peaceful life. But these men are now the exception and they meet other men from the neighbouring groups, living in a patriarchal system. These men have power and riches, so the men in matriarchal groups are jealous and whine. It wouldn't take much for them or the neighbours to use violence to kill and steal territories and riches from these women. I guess that's how most matriarchal groups were destroyed in the first place and replaced by a world of warriors.
You’re right to point this out. What we really lost were matriarchies all over the world because of colonization.
@@KayAnn2121 actually there are studies pointing out that women live longer because the matriarchies. Women's knowledge and wisdom were needed for the tribe to survive. Still proven to be of high importance in today's remaining tribes.
My half sister is Seneca. She has inherited her family land from her maternal line; the reservation land rights are matrilineal. They are still here and deserve justice.
As a professor of anthropology & archaeology, thank you SO MUCH for this video!! This is an *exquisite* explanation of stratigraphy (both of ideas and of buildings) and the origin of social structures - I plan to use this video in all my classes moving forward, no exaggeration. Thank you for your wonderful and important public education work!!!
I wish I kept info from another creator where she was sharing another piece of history: that because women created life, they were considered gods and therefore were extremely important and scared, and therefore respected. Then one day one single dude spun it all around and deemed women weren’t. This caught on and boom, patriarchy. Lots of women’s history has been re written and erased by men to make themselves look better and have taken accomplishments done by women.
Men who rose in position of power wanted more lands, more people to force to work so he could steal more riches from their labors. In order to do that, those men needed a surplus of land laborers, and soldiers to invade and pillage their neighboring tribes-countries. Therefore, women were forced to have as many children as it was physically possible, to make up for the losses. No more social roles, teaching roles, ruling roles, they had to be kept at home and push out babies, laboring for their husbands. In order to make other men complacent to their servitude, men in power allowed the lesser common man, laborers, to act up as tyrant within his home. If the masses (men) could by tyrant with their wives and children, they were less likely to revolt against their own tyrants, sharing a fraction of their abusive power. Home was their own little kingdoms where they could lash out their frustrations on their family. That's how patriarchy came to be. Psychopathy made culture.
My sisters, you are a powerful, wealthy, wise, victorious, free woman, and you will succeed in every thing you do. You have special gifts to bring this world and you should only demand that you are treated with humane dignity, respect, kindness, courtesy and good manners or that man who needs to go. This next four years will be a powerful, gold path for you to succeed and prosper and you will do powerful good in this world!!!! Get rid of that ridiculous myth that believes in a creation story that destroys itself and blames women for bringing "evil" into this world -- the person that creates -- it is unhealthy for us to believe in. Women bring good into this world. We are powerful and we are powerful TOGETHER!
Lets bring the balance to the earth... lets bring our mother nature with us
Wow love way you put this information together. I can’t wait to show my husband and kids. This is fascinating and heartbreaking, but also incredibly enlightening. Thank you! ❤
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@@vklnew9824 says the internet troll with nothing better to do than harass random women thinking your opinion would actually matter to us. Go back under your bridge!😆👋🏻
It’s ridiculous how many men (and women even) in 2025 still question why feminism is needed
Thank you for this thoughtful conversation. This is exactly where we need to start. Very enlightening!
I suspect that laws only needed to be written down when they no longer were sensible to people and had to be enforced for the Kings' benefit.
this is spot on. write it down to make it law and then show the evidence - of the written word.
Yeah, and I suspect they were enforced BECAUSE many weren't happy about them. Smacks of coloniser / imposed by the "winner" of a war - how to demoralise and silence half the population in 1 step
The power of recording a law:
it is recorded before the crime was committed, therefore is applied impersonally. This settles any idea that someone is being unfairly targeted
It often defines acceptable punishment and acceptable evidence and who bears the burden of proof. This often results in more favorable outcomes for the offender in situations where death would be common practice when the victim or public is judge/jury/executioner. Either by prescribing an execution method (not excessively cruel and painful) or ruling out death as punishment
**it also often prescribes monetary compensation or labor compensation in lieu of physical harm or unfair/unequal looting**
For those not at the top of the hierarchy, it seems to imply that the law is binding to everyone equally, as opposed to a “rules for thee and not for me” policy. **Not that it is always the case, but it is implied**
The social contract relies heavily on recorded law. Without recorded law, a society doesn’t really exist. Because the social contract is a give and take. You wouldn’t sign a blank contract and accept the free meal without knowing what will be demanded in return
In the medical world, if it is not written down - it did not happen.
So laws for women arent common sense then? I guess we should do away with them then...
0:13 Yes, well as soon as something is written down, it becomes harder to amend, as opposed to verbal records. It is why I hate books as much as I love them.
Yeah but books are only opinions from some self-appointed experts.
Ratify the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution and protect women from Supreme Court Justices.
YES!
I absolutely loved your channel! I ended up binge-watching the entire thing in just one day, and now I’m sad it’s over 😢. Thank you for sharing such a gem of content-positive, informative, and hate free. It’s truly something I’ll treasure forever.
I wish you loads of success.
I think it would have been interesting to highlight and contrast the (contemporary to them) society of ancient Egypt, where women did have property rights, could both inherit and and buy property in their own right, where could could initiate divorce (with the issue being resolved ibn a very modern court proceeding and division of property) where women could even defend themselves in court! Women could represent themselves in court without requiring a male guardian.
Court cases, like those preserved in the Heqanakht Letters, show women bringing disputes over property or inheritance before local judges. Women could engage in all sorts of legal contracts as independent entities The Demotic papyri document women lending money, leasing land, and participating in business deals. Women could even rise to the highest office in the Land , that of pharaoh, such as Hachepsut or Cleopatra.
But WHY did men make these laws and exert such power over women. What is the root of this hatred and control?
Hatred and control?…
Love and leadership
Men sacrifice themselves for their families.
I’ll go fight the war so you can raise the children
You’re welcome
It's exploitation and greed, pure and simple. In my opinion, marriage and the family unit were the first corporations, the first foundational economic units. This a world built for men to succeed and dominate in a world that seems finite and full of competition.
I can tell you in the most ancient of days, women did not live with the men they mated with (matriarchal societies). I can guarantee they do not have the atrocious rates of male on female violence we see today in patriarchal societies. I read the book "Society Without Fathers" no woman had ever claimed rape in a society that eschewed marriage.
Oooh you aren't learning anything here are you..... @@metoonunyabidness1391
The root is biology. 👩👩have weak body with disadvantages like periods, birth pain. estrogen makes u shorter in height and testosterone increases ur height.
The extended testosteron. The physical power and the higher magnetic field around them
It’s so powerful how the examples aren’t given verbally, but with cuts to registers of them. We get to acknowledge them with the silence of focus, memory and grief. Words are great, and she’s masterful on getting through multiple things in such a small runtime, but pictures are worth a thousand of them and it feels like so. Great video, can’t help but become a subscriber
I’m curious to what life was like before patriarchy. I need something to compare this to. Like, I wonder why the felt it had to take such extremes to take the stance and change culture and I guess laws to what it became.
You and me both.
I'm doing a deep dive into early Sumerian literature and highlighting the roles of women. The predominance of women is evident for several thousand years before the Code of Hanurabi.
In Inana's stories, she gives the kings power. for thousands of years, they had to wed her to have divine rights to rule.
She was responsible for justice, and was learning the art jurisprudence when she was raped. She listened to his lame ast story, sentenced him to death, and to having his story told in taverns as warning.
Her role as chief justice was taintined when she was syncretized with Ishtar and her warrior aspect was the focus of her worship. That's when shit went downhill in the middle east.
Before that, it was all about culture, people learning to work together, and abundance.
@@leapeace1201 that’s interesting. Perhaps I’ll look into those things. Thanks for sharing.
@@jenniferflower9265 The quickest dive would be for you to look at the actual Sumerian translations of the Gilgamesh and Bull of Heaven stories. In the first one Inana tells him that he can no longer enter or dispense justice in her temple. She and the widows are attempting to check his misbehavior, because Enkidu didn't do what he was supposed to. They just became bro dudes, murdered the protector of the cedar forest, then clear cut them. In that version the he's playing some game with the cities boys, won't let them rest, while they complain of the pain in their throats and butts. Well, most male translators say it's necks and hips, but a woman translator told me that body words are pretty vague, so that's what I take from it.
The more popular story is after she was syncretized with Ishtar. That's the one where Gilgamesh insults her and accuses her of abusing her husbands.
Peggy Reeves Sanday determined there is a a statistically significant relationship between warrior cultures and violence against women. That hold true with the rise of city states in Sumeria.
Agriculture is to blame. It was a task requiring tremendous upper body strength. And the males took the societal imbalance and ran with it when they should have re-established the balance.
i think it varies a lot depending on what communities/cultures/time periods you're examining. as another commenter mentioned here, the physical strength that agriculture requires is possibly the foundation of modern patriarchy. but there are other societies that practiced early forms of agriculture that were/are largely matriarchal and matrilineal (possessions/property are passed down through the mother's side). for example, there are a good number of native american tribes that are traditionally matriarchal, even though many native american tribes did practice agriculture, and were very skilled in growing their own cultivated crops long before europeans arrived in the americas. so it varies a lot depending on the time, place, and people.
i also think abrahamic religions, and the spread of those religions through colonization and genocide, plays a big role as well.
"It's just so easy to adopt the ideas we inherit without really questioning them." - The entire world needs to hear this. Damn.
Good lord, the patriarchy is so brutal and old it's crazy how that stupid thing is still affecting us today :(
You explain so incredibly well ❤
Watched this on a whim this morning (TH-cam algorithm ftw!), and it gave me inspiration for the topic of a paper for my Anthropology class. Thanks!!
This is a really well done video. Especially at the end where you clarify the origin of abortion restrictions.
When I was a teenager my mother told me my father wouldn't have left her if I had been a boy.
I’m sorry. That must have been confusing and somewhat horrific to hear your mother say this to you. How sad for her to believe such nonsense about her relationship to your father and to you.
I wish to never be that kind of parent 😮
From the anthropological perspective this is video has a lot of Euro-centric assumptions. Eurasia is not the only land mass on this planet and its cultures are not the oldest. They are just the most _familiar_ to _you_. The oldest continuous culture is around 50,000 years old and it is in Australia. Assuming that patriarchy has an origin in time and place is a bit weird. I know its a common assumption and probably "common sense" to a lot of people but common sense assumptions do not bring about academic break throughs. Assuming that patriarchy was made up as a culture like a group project and handed down in any way similar to the way we live today is also an assumption. In fact searching for origins is very much a Judeo-Christian preoccupation. Centring on Mesopotamia because it's easier to imagine that culture than someone else's is bound to lead to erroneous conclusions. The Mayan calandar is possibly 3000 to 5000 years old but they were not able to connect with Europe so that culture doesn't get counted? Australian aboriginal nations do not seem to be connected to Europe so they're not counted? They didn't write in a way that Europeans recognise, so they don't get counted? If we keep assuming that "western" (west of what?) culture is the pinacle of human civilisation we will keep making dumb assumptions about reality.
Yes. And if I'm not mistaken, some of those other societies (a lot of them? Most of them?) were patriarcal to some degree too.
It seems to me that we tend to easily form patriarcal dynamics, and that some social systems (like States) tend to make it more widespread.
This was a disheartening but informative video. Thanks for putting this info together and presenting so eloquently.
Thankyou for speaking on this topic and making a much needed channel on this and spreading awareness about it.❤
This was very well done
Matriarchy is equality, where everybody, regardless of gender, contributes with what they are good at. In such a society, we work as a community, helping each other raise children, where hierarchies are non-existent. This is what the Patriarchy is fighting against because then they lose their power and control. Some cultures in the past lived a more matriarchal lifestyle, but lo and behold! When that was discovered by the Patriarchs, these societies were either eradicated or converted into a patriarchy by force.
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This was so informative and relevant! Thank you so much for creating this video. This is so important right now.
It makes me so sick. Women being beat while the law sits back and allows it even to this day in the USA.
Also to this day, women are punished but not men in all these "crimes".
DV rates by race, look it up
Women have never been the primary victims of any form of violence in our species' history. They also haven't ever been the primary targets of any government's policing efforts or prison system.
@@infernityable1369 denier. Ridiculously so.
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@@infernityable1369What world do you live in? Denial of Truth World? Your response is sickening in its misogyny and outright h8 of women and girls.
This is amazing. Thank you. The discussion on patriarchy has become so toxic, with many people even denying it altogether, or making it into a hate against men.
I agree whole heartedly that it's our responsibility not to perpetuate the systems.
It's interesting to notice when men and even women become anti feminist in this day and age, and deny men's privileges.
The problem with any privileges that we're born with is that we are blind to them. Not only that, we are taught by our family and culture to adapt or protect these privileges in completely subconscious ways. That's why we need men to recognize, accept facts and correct their position, and not be intimidated by change, and not take it personal when patriarchy is what is criticized and not men.
Men suffer from patriarchy too, but are still afraid to lose their position...however, it's subconscious.
When both men and women are conscious, we can't go on denying the fact that laws, norms and opinion are stacked against women even today.
And, to break the patriarchy, both genders need to grow up. None of us are victims either. We have got to work together to change the systems.
kind of a misleading title this didnt even teach us about the origins of the patriarchy. she just went into detail about time periods where patriarchal laws and practices were ALREADY in play. i was hoping to learn where and how it originated prior to all this.
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I dropped my jaw after watching this video! I feel so validated with my speculations on how women were excluded. I'm excited to see more videos!
I often tell my son of the importance of him not feeling he needs to hold his feelings in & that it's okay for him to talk, specially if he feels upset or frightened. I'm hoping this will go a little way to countering the patriarchal message that men are weak if they show emotion, which can then result in their suppressed emotions or the pressure of needing to be the sole provider, bursting out into self-harm and/or violence to others, particularly their partners. It's gutting society's made so little progress dismantling the patriarchy.
Many Native American societies saw women as equal to men, allowed them to make important decisions and own property. Native women did most of the work keeping their societies together as men got to 'play' all day hunting and fishing.
If you think hunting and fishing is "playing" then you have a warped view of what work is. Hunting and fishing was often more work than what the women did.
@@greywolf7577 Hunting and fishing is more fun than most jobs these days. My point was more about how men's work and womens work were equally important to Native societies.
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My favourite thing about being Irish is we literally have no Womens clothing in our Irish (not anglo-Irish) archeological records. Everyone wore Lèine and customised then as they see fit. The Brits had to bring in Sumptuary Laws to ban the Lèine and then saffron, when it came time for the Plantations.
wow, my stomach dropped at many points in this video. i’ve thought many times about the origins of patriarchy and i’m so happy to have came across this video!
You know what, I've actually been to the Middle East & travelled around Egypt, Jordan, Palestine & Syria visiting & researching archaeological sites. If you look at the archaeology, you see that human settlements in the region date back maybe even a million years, & that Matriarchal societies dominated for millennia before the dawn of patriarchy & the written language, via the clear evidence of ancient goddess temples to Hathor & Isis in Qena & Sinai, & the ancient Sphinx lioness warrior goddess Sekhmet in Cairo. There is even written evidence that the origin of the bible was based on rewriting preexisting matriarchal narratives & reinventing them with patriarchal tropes with the dawn of writing as part of the opposition & intent to subjugate women. There is a reason for this, & evidently the men wouldn't have risen up against the female goddesses if it wasn't for the same reasons of subjugation, witchcraft, natural disasters & blaming women for their own abuse of power, murdering children, witchcraft, communication with snakes, exploding volcanoes, tsunami floods, asteroids, magic, cannibalism & sexual slavery. You know the same stories we see with blaming Eve, witches & their association to black magic, vampirism, cannibalism & the mafia in the modern age.
Personally, I think we need a clean slate & to start again, respecting equality for all in the modern age, while promoting more vegetarianism to heal our planet & human society in the modern world, for a new age to truly begin.
Interesting omg
We should maybe try to cite sources for such things, no?
If ancient society was Matriarchal, then maybe men were standing up against being treated as second class citizens. Maybe they wanted to teach women what it was like to be second class citizens, the same way the men had been. So perhaps the patriarchy of today was caused by the abuses that the matriarchal systems caused.
Greetings, Ma'am! I admire how non biased the presentation of your content was. Would you mind quoting the sources so I could look into them for further research? Thank you!
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This was an amazing essay! 🥰
I was hoping that you would focus on the time before all the fighting, when women were valued.
Women have been valued and venerated throughout all of history. Almost every man has a mother and at least one woman who he will lay down his life to protect. Not some heroic mythical man of lore, nearly every man, from smart to dumb, rich to poor, virtuous to depraved, strong and weak. There has never been a people who’s male population wouldn’t die protecting their mothers wives sisters and daughters.
There have always been evil men along the way too, sometimes they lost their lives to the good men who were protecting their societies, sometimes the evil men were the victors. Sometimes you could hardly tell the two apart.
When you take a moment to consider things, you notice that men are traditionally the romantic element of love. The grand gestures, impractical displays, irrational financial expenditures are all ways of expressing this commitment and the element of sacrificial devotion. Women are typically the object or subject of romance rather than the purveyors of romance, but not exclusively. You’ll see this evidenced heavily in poetry song lyrics and other artistic expressions.
This element of romance being predominantly masculine doesn’t denote a lesser capacity for devotion in women at all. It’s simply an observable expression of the practical nature of men and women fulfilling their duties to one another and their offspring, and their ancestors if we want to go so far. There is great practical importance of a woman preserving her life and a man sacrificing his life. The circumstantial element of a man fighting another man to the death to protect women Is actually a seldom fully appreciated necessity. **This will help to maintain the ratio of men and women which will curb a scarcity of mates and it also translates to a higher probability that his offspring survive and reproduce** And the self preservation for women is essential because a woman who preserves her life preserves life itself. The potential impact of a mother successfully raising a single boy or girl to adulthood can be massive. There doesn’t seem to be any advantages to a dead woman.
Anyway, tangent tangent rant rant. The sacred goddess cow is sat beside the bull so that he may be tortured and accountable. It’s a suitable and prudent position held by the most venerated and valued figures.
Anyone who posits that women aren’t the valuable ones can’t tell the difference between man, his ego, and their roles. What a cunning and useful game this duality has created
There never was a time before the fighting. There has always been fighting as long as there has been limited resources, which has always been the case in one way or another.
@@greywolf7577 well, yes.
and...
there was time before feudalism. a very looooong time.
I come from the bunt community of South India and I proudly say that ours is a matriarchal community and our ancestors were way ahead of the world
If it's matriarchal, that means it's sexist. How is that any better than patriarchy?
Ancient texts were basically men talking to other men. All we can learn from them is what men thought at a time where the patriarchy had already been established and the earlier goddess based societies had already started to disappear. Have you read "The Alphabet Versus the Goddess: The Conflict Between Word and Image"? Basically, symbolic communication is very left brain (male) where intuition, body language, other forms of communication is much more attuned with the right brain, feminine energy. When did goddesses of power start to become demonized? Or turned into goddesses of sex and love? For example, the evolution of Ishtar into Venus as the patriarchy began to take hold. Clues as to the more ancient history can be found in the many goddess statues and other depictions which predate the written word.
I don't think it is quite great to rely on stories about "female brain" vs "male brain" and feminine energy" vs "masculine energy " if your point is to challenge the structures that were built on these narratives. Surely, the brains between biological sexes might me somewhat different, just as the bodies, but that is minimal and mostly related to physiological functions. The differences between the sexes are real! But it only stretches into the reproductive parts of us (which is not necessarily just the genitalia). Femininity and Masculinity are ideals we created because we are still simple creatures who like stories and like to belong. They're kind of like a costume we wear to interact with one another, even when no one is there (because we are extremely social, we perform even when the group isn't physically present). I discovered that questioning these things and trying to distance myself from them has allowed me to be more happy, to not limit myself to whatever performativity I consider negative at times.
@amaedron_ I think you misread my point. I was in know way talking about the differences between the brains of the biological sexes, but rather the differences in the brain hemispheres that are present in both biological sexes. We may wish to completely destroy the concept of binary, but we will have to abandon the English language to do so as it is pervasive. I am speaking of the common scientific idea of masculine/feminine as commonly presented in the literature of both biology and psychology. For example, giving is considered masculine, while receiving is considered feminine. That is not to say women don't give and men don't receive. Positive and negative, don't relate to good and bad. Look at a battery. It's bad if you don't have both a positive and negative pole as both are required for the battery to work. Of course these constructs of language may have a gender bias, which was exactly my point, but we are a bit stuck with them if we want to discuss these things in the English language via the written word. I could probably make my point much better by just playing the piano for you, but we have both chosen to engage in the patriarchal form of communication.
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You OVER-simplify and create a binary when speaking about the two hemispheres of the brain. Women are not more right brained and men more left brained. That is a myth. No basis in science or reality. Your example of giving is considered masculine and receiving is considered feminine is NOT biology or psychology. It is myth. It is story which is fine, but don’t assert that it is hard science because it isn’t. Your whole thesis belongs in an English Lit class not a biology class.
@@cindyjames1326the thing is you cannot say that those differences are biological cause scientifically there are no differences between a female and a male brain. The "differences" that you might be refering to are caused by the societal expectations that are put on girls and boys that basically changes the way their brains recieve information and communicate, it isnt biological is social
I loved how you started with and presented the whole video by quoting the references and the whole video is solely build on historical facts...thus avoiding unnecessary controversies...great work
I'm shocked these have so few views
Im subscribing and i hope it helps boost this video and reach enough people, i hope we can learn from our roots. Many laws and systems are outdated and misinterpreted or built with ill-intentions. Revisiting history is building a better future, for all of us. Thank you for this video ❤❤
Funny as my dad was an archaeologist and the field arose in patriarchal societal systems dominating cultures for thousands of years effecting the ideas and attitudes of academia,
I am so happy to have found your channel! Thank you for this. ❤
I love how you can tell that she enjoys making these videos. She clearly loves what she does, even if the actual reality of the information she dispels onto us is grim.
Wonderful Metaphor you use with the ancient cities and their purpose. This makes for a lovely argument.
All of our eastern North American Indian Nations were matrilineal. Florida archaeologists go with the Spanish accounts for the Calusa, making them patrilineal. The Spanish world view at that time was of monarchies. The Calusa would have been matrilineal as well. Think Americaa
I think the Catholic religion has a lot more to do with it than monarchies.
We should maybe try to cite sources for such things, no?
Sounds like the North American Indian nations were pretty sexist, just in ways that benefited women. No wonder the men protested and changed the system. They didn't want to be treated like second class citizens any more.
This video is interesting, but so depressing, I had tears in my eyes. Why does mankind seem to be like this right from the beginning? Like we are capable of empathy and decide against it. Instead we invent monstrous punishments.
I love your videos. Sometimes they are difficult to watch. How different things would be if 1/2 of the world’s population weren’t subjugated in some way. If everyone could live up to his or her potential we’d have a wonderful world.
Thank you for making this channel. Thank you for talking about this.
10:25 I suspect that Hammurabi/Babylonian laws over female sexuality was to assure husbands that wives were faithful. It was self-evident that a new child is the mother's biology but not obvious to be the father's. While husbands were away from home for long periods, (i.e., hunting, gathering, or wartime), wives were home raising kids, and potentially sexual with another man. (The gap here is that husbands may also be sexual while away, yet those husbands could deny pregnancies they started.) Today, DNA flags both father and mother of a new child; during the Hammurabi's era, a husband had to trust that children borne by his wife were his biology. My point here is that patriarchy favored men to assure them the women, as child-bearers, were faithful while the men were away. ~ Aside, I am not a trained social scientist; my statements here are my guesses. Thank you for producing this new series; I look forward to more episodes as you share your knowledge, distilled from your multiple college degrees.
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It makes sense!
I think it’s obvious that men seek to control women’s sexual behavior to try to guarantee the paternity of children in the household. With DNA tests more available, more people have become aware that some fathers and grandfathers were not biologically related to them. There is a strong urge for most to bond with children that are biologically related. Step children often are not treated as well as biological children.
That may be the common assumption. But WHY is it an issue that men know what child they contributed sperm to make? In a differently structured society, it could well be that that isn't even a concern. It's all tied up in "ownership" of resources - of women, their bodies, capital/ objects/ the environment. So if THAT particular concept was restructured then the fundamental flaws might be resolved. People didn't think monarchies could end... but they do
I think human are probably by natural design a bit like orcas. Both male and female have the tendency of mating with multiple partners. We are both social creatures living in some sort of clans (be it biological or found families). Females would live way pass menopause and help with guiding the community and raising the offsprings. Different clans speak in different languages or have specific dialects and tend to not be very welcoming towards “outsiders”.
But we became way more smarter and created many man-made things including different social structures that oftentimes only benefit a selected groups of people at the expense of the rest.
I don’t think we should or can revert back to any of the more primal stages, be it “traditional lifestyle” or the matriarchy, but the current system definitely has rooms for improvements. We should at least be willing to make changes instead of dying stubbornly on the hills of some sort of ancient lifestyles.
I love your videos on patriarchy
I’m watching them in the order you posted them
Thank you
Ancient Egypt had relatively liberal laws, especially regarding the role of women. But they did not prevail, as Islam had quite a different attitude toward women.
Islam also has a high regarding view towards women. Women can work, keep all their moneyand assets themselves no one else has a right to it, they can get educated and have fulfilling lives if they wish. Yall see modesty and hijab as opprrssion. But its not. Wveryone does their part. Men lower their gaze and women cover up. Modesty is an important characteristic of the religion.
Cite your sources. You can be making baseless accusations without providing evidence
....... there are quite literally no explicit sources for the ancient Egyptian society at large, so the first part of your claim is just bs. And the second one js just misinfo
Great video! Thanks for making it 😊
But we live in a chimpanzee society (male warrior patriarchy), not a bonobo society (female nurturer matriarchy). And religion keeps the patriarchy alive.
Abolish religion.
I'm firmly convinced that religion (particularly the Abrahamic ones) were in fact invented to validate and justify the patriarchy that men wanted to impose. Women hold the ultimate biological power - they menstruate, gestate, parturate (give birth), and lactate. Men can do none of these things and their control over reproduction of the human species ends at the tip of their willies. Before paternity tests, men had no way to know if the kids their partner had were theirs, whereas a woman always knows her own child. I believe that some early men felt impotent and powerless in the face of these biological facts, and to make themselves feel important and powerful, they invented the idea of male warrior gods who had created women as simple sexual vessels and incubators.
Patriarchy and male dominance is not the "natural order" for humans or for many other species. Female spiders kill and eat the males. Honey bee workers (who are all female) will kill male bees and throw their bodies out of the hive after they mate with the queen. Many female mammals form matriarchal groups and do not simply submit to any male who wants to mate with them - they chose when and where and with whom to mate, and woe to any male who tries to force the issue. Females of many species will drive males away and even kill them at all times except when actually mating.
There's a saying that I find particularly salient: "A handful of women with a teaspoon of sperm is a viable species. A world full of men with an ocean of ova is an extinct species". Therein lies the rub for men.
No. We do not.
@@springbrown9769yes we do.
Bonobo society often isn't nurturing. The female bonobos often take the better food or sleeping spaces and are violent toward any male bonobo who doesn't give them preference. I feel bad for the male bonobos and wish that they could band together to stand up against the abuses from the females.
Such an informative video, thank you so much for spreading the truth! You really have to read history to learn about why humanity is the way it is, and how we can change for the better
So we're talking about project 2025?
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She said men did not invent patriarchy and then proceeds to tell us how men started patriarchy, just a long time ago.
She said men who are alive today didn't invent patriarchy, but yes men did invent it thousands of years ago. She discusses this point about inheriting systems. You may want to rewatch the video.
Thank you for this video.
You only have to observe other primates, like chimpanzees, to see why there is patriarchy in humans. It is about individual physical power. Not to encourage anything in modern times, but a woman with a gun is as powerful as a man with a gun. There are cases where women have top status, Queens Hatshepsut, Cleopatra, Elizaberth(Br), Catherine(Ru), Isabella(Sp), etc. The other interesting thing is that women may be the more important humans. Every person born has only their mother's mitochondrial DNA, not their father's.
We have less sexual dimorphism than bonobos and they have a clear matriarchal society, and they don't have guns. It's about physical power, sure, but cooperation and various ecological and social context can change the direction of it, not just guns
But men have more diverse DNA. Men have both a Y and an X chromosome while women only have two Xs. It is the man's DNA that decides whether the child is male or female, not the woman's.
I am loving your videos so much! Thank you for sharing such well articulated and researched information.