Indeed. I just happy they're using kWh and not BTU or MPGe... Although I did hear something about lbs-ft, but I assume that's how many times you have to walk to work to afford one.
Thanks for translating the units! Well shot, well hosted, well edited, well produced. I don't even drive, i'm not in the market for one of these but FC is still one of my favoUrite (look, i translated in british!) YT channels ever, cheers.
Luigiwoo i think the show is great but like many great you tube shows a move to mainstream tv would ruin it. The top gear format is too bloated and played out. EVs are the here and now in terms of automobiles and TH-cam is the most relevant source of content. It’s a perfect fit.
@@eddieallen6401 Do both. Publish on TH-cam and then license the content to the BBC to make something with it. Even if it's just a piece in another show. Would be a curious thing to see Fully Charged as a segment on Top Gear ;-)
The Kona EV is great. I have the opportunity to test 64kW it here in Europe and it's really a game changer competing with other EVs on the market. Price and range like no other. Cheers
@@TechnologyMove so just little cheaper then where i live. I didnt like the cheap interrior. Even the i30 feels like luxury car after Kona test drive. The range is nice thought 👍
Hyundai have leapfrogged Nissan here. You have to wonder how Nissan got the Leaf 2 so badly wrong. It's just an afterthought upgrade of a Leaf 1 with a few different body panels and a slightly bigger battery but not one that makes the car more flexible. Well done Hyundai. I want one.
It depends what you mean by "leapfrogged" in terms of engineers, definitely yes! Production-wise they are churning out around half as many konas as leaf's. That is the biggest problem hyundai have.
This will happen numerous times over the next 10-20 years. The tech is in a state of flux, it's likely that *any* car you buy will be superseded shortly after, sometimes by a little, sometimes by a lot, as batteries advance, or possibly other innovations, like the Skeleton hybrid supercap system. The same happened with ice engines. Overhead valves, "V" engines, hemispherical heads, superchargers, turbochargers, fuel injection, etc, all raised the game, but the changes were not noticed as the tech was more mature.
Nissan seems to have lost the plot. On the verge of releasing the 60kWh LG traction battery version of the Leaf (a design with proper thermal management, long overdue) their CEO gets arrested in Japan and the 60kWh version gets put on indefinite hold. I get the strong impression the Japanese Nissan board are not really interested in EVs, perhaps they would prefer hydrogen or gasoline.
The CEO, for all his apparent criminality, was the driving force behind the EV push at Nissan and Renault. You may well be right and the current hierarchy may not be too interested in EV advancement for the time being. Ultimately they'll have to get with the game or lose out big time. It won't take many more car launches with the Kona's range and price point before there's a sudden surge to EV's (availability issues permitting!) Petrol and Diesel cars will be about as desirable as the last generation of none smart phones within a few short years, you'll barely be able to give them away...
I've had a Hyundai Ioniq for almost 2 years now. Regularly get 5.4 miles/kWh. The Kona seems like a great evolution, hope they can make enough to keep up demand.
*There is absolutely no technical reason why cross channel ferries and trains can't fit chargers, so vehicles can be topped up while crossing the water. The first to do it will snatch a large chunk (if not all) of the EV market. To me it's just smart marketing, so why haven't the people getting paid big money come up with the idea?*
On an electric train it wouldn't be such a problem, however on a ferry you would likely need a dedicated diesel generator to produce enough electricity for all of the Chargers to function at once if need be! That would require more fuel and a lot of additional cost!
@@lustfulvengance A ferry already generates a massive amount of electricity to maintain the myriad systems that run on it. You can be reasonably assured that that the generated amount is at nowhere near it's capacity under operating conditions.
Im an electrical and also software engineer. I am currently working on an FULL Electric Ferry. It has around 2700kWh battery and will be charged at both sides. But if you want to TOP UP the cars.. it will take alot energy from those onboard batteries. I would not recommend that. One way to the other side will cost like 250kWh. If you charge alot of electric cars it will really mess up the battery life of the ferry itself. So to answer your question: NO don't do that.
Everyone has their critical mass for EVs. I said the same...until Feb. 14th when I bought my first EV! ;) What changed my mind? It was the Tesla Model 3. OMG.
I don't know how Robert and Jonny got started together, but I'm so glad they did. Not only are they a perfect Yin and Yang for the channel, they seem to genuinely get on well and have a lot of mutual respect. That's a solid foundation for this channel to keep growing, influencing and entertaining. Thank you Fully Charged for getting me enthused about EVs and for all the excellent content so far. The show is a joy to watch.
Great thanks for that info. I have a similar experience in a loan car, where I could not see the displayed info. I really like this car and am probably off to put down an order.
I found this video particularly enjoyable. It was slightly longer than usual so there was more time to get into it. Also Jonny and Robert appearing together and discussing features is always a bonus.
Another superb video from Jonnie, Robert and Mark. I like that date being shown at the beginning, so we can look back with nostalgia in the months and years to come.
How easy is it to find charge points? Is it well-integrated in the sat nav? Is remaining charge taken into account? What is the maximum DC wattage it can take? Thanks!
@@raytrevor1 Aerodynamics at high speed damages range much more than heating and lights, electric cars are incredibly efficient at slow speeds compared to piston vehicles. That being said cold is relative, in the UK it wont effect range but much but in somewhere like Canada?
@@stevenbeiting756 its Easy to find charging points cause im from Norway. Also the 480km range gets you far without needing to charge. I dont use sat nav to find charging points. In Norway we have 2 companies who build chargers, and they have an app each with locations, live feed of what kind of chargers are availible. It can take 100kW if im not mistaken.
@@raytrevor1 i dont know about heavy traffic and why this would affect anything. The heating takes about 20km off the expected range (not driver only, in winter, outdoor temperature between 1 degree and minus 16 degree. for me I like the car to have 23 degrees celsius, 3 fan strength). You can tweak with the settings and see the expected range change on the desktop. It DOES have a driver only air condition thingie which saves range, and also it has an eco+ mode if youve really made a fool of yourself with the planning. But dude. The whole thing about this car is it remove range anxiety. Everyone is asking about range, and I dont get it. Cause I dont worry about it with this car :) The impression I get is you can do what ever you want with it and you dont get punished as a result. We drove 300km on a 80% charge, in winter at between - 1 and - 16 degrees. Car was cold before starting, having stood for days outside in minus 1 to minus 10. We stopped ONCE to charge, and we didnt really need to, it was more like a pee break with charging than the other way around.
GM just announced the killing of the Chevy Volt, the next day, Fully Charged reviews the Hyundai Kona EV. Fully Charged states that the Kona EV "Is really a Game Changer". The Kona EV proves that big car companies CAN do EVs RIGHT, if they choose to. Every review of the Kona EV I've seen has been simply "Glowing" in their opinions of this "Game Changing" Electric Vehicle. Hyundai recently announced that they have increased their Kona EV production to 4,000 units per month, I think they could easily double production to 8,000 units per month and still not fill all the demand in the foreseeable future. It is interesting how everybody was focused on Tesla reaching 5,000 Model 3's per week and how NOBODY even mentions how paltry 4,000 Kona EVs per month is compared to Tesla's 25.000 (+/-) Model 3's monthly production rate. AND GM's Low Volume production of the Chevy Bolt is JUST EMBARRASSING !!!!!!
@@Secretlyanothername They are not lazy. They just have a bottleneck in the supply chain and that is batteries. Tesla has Gigafactory for that exact purpose.
Trump pulling the subsidiaries from GM is going to kill their chances at a great car. Killing the Volt was the worst thing they can do, and with the subsidy being pulled there goes the EV market for GM and possibly the US. The govt seems hell bent on killing the EV yet again. Add the Nissan Scandal that's going to kill the 60kwh leaf and it's game over. Glad Hyundai is killing it!!! Dump the hydrogen cars, EV is the future!
@@Secretlyanothername I second what Vlad said. Also we don't know if Hyundai is losing money selling these vehicles, like most manufacturers still seem to be. If they are, then there's certainly no reason to increase the numbers that much.
Good post. But in fairness? GM actually first annonced their intent to CANCEL the VOLT last year, maybe ten months after the BOLT was released in late 2016.
Good shout! The upgraded Ioniq EV with some of the Kona tech, bigger battery, more kW motor, will be awesome. We've covered 7k miles in 5 months and love our Ioniq EV!
They're not. Now just give me everything about this car, but in my 2006 Hyundai coupe body, instead of its dull family wagon mini SUV shape and I'll be over the moon ;)
I’ve got the Electric Ioniq Premium SE and I’m fully with you, the car is lovely! Even in winter time with the heaters blasting I can still get 139 miles from the thing!
Unless Tesla can increase production on the affordable model 3 (not the $50k model they currently selling) the kona could blow them out of the market - it would be hilarious if of all the car companies it’s Hyundai who ends up being the Tesla killer.
Why? I expect actually the Korean's to own the EV market in 10 years. If you look at it.. it's pretty NORMAL actually. They got LG/Samsung they got big battery technology in Korea. In conjunction with Hyundai & Kia it would just be normal actually. I just don't understand why Japan isn't doing so well. They got Panasonic! Where is Toyota? Still sucking on the Hydrogen Hoax?
@@HermanWillems Because Tesla is considered a "premium" brand and the fan boys give it such praise that it skews the reviews - it hits highest on customer satisfaction yet has numerous issues that are brushed over by the customer. I know the Koreans, especially Hyundai have really improved their cars, but the Kona came out of nowhere, Tesla has such amazing public relations that the $35K electric car is the model 3... Even though they aren't making any (every model 3 currently sold is more than $50k version).
It didn't come out of nowhere. It was announced 2 years ago. Also Kia Soul and the Hyundai Ionic getting the Kona treatment. So technically they Koreans are going to have 3 EV with 250-300 mile range.
@@Kintizen out of nowhere as in no viral publicity like Tesla and as a "real" car company, Hyundai will get criticized for even the smallest points. Could you image the reviews if someone received their Kona with mismatched paint or doors that don't line up? They would be mocked mercilessly as cheap Korean cars while Tesla does that regularly and is still a "premium" car
it is hard to agree that this is really a "game changer." At £31k ($40k), the model that Jonny was driving is just $5k cheaper than the mid-range (310 miles) model Tesla Model 3 at $45k. Seems like the autopilot, supercharging capability, performance, and styling of the Model 3 are well worth the extra $5k. And unlike the Kona electric (at least in the US), the Model 3 is available to buy now. By the time the Kona is available, Tesla will probably have even longer range for the same money as the cost of batteries continue their rapid decline.
You guys put out consistently amazingly well produced content. I love it. Also with how windy it was at ~10minutes, great work on keeping that audio clean.
Dean, I've had 2 Model 3s and sold them both due to the screen UI and lack of a 2nd information screen or a head up display in front of the driver. The efficiency and driving dynamics of the Model 3 are brilliant, but the single screen and the distraction of controlling things are a big fail. This will be corrected with voice control, but it is too slow coming.
There is a natural split here. You guys can’t work with a single screen and I am happy with a single screen. My last BMW had 50 buttons. It is crazy. Fifty. Nonsense. I don’t miss any of those buttons.
Just a great channel guys-every review is first rate. Thank you for all the effort that goes in to making such slick reviews. And making them so accessible - bloody brilliant x
If they can cut the charge time from 75 min to 35 min, and that has probably already been done, then there is no stopping EVs. I mean, name one person who can drive longer that 450km at one go.
Name one person for whom it would be healthy to do so. Bathroom brakes and a meal would be suitable with that range, I would compare ticket prices, not only because gas is expensive (something that doesn't apply) but also, because I would be in an awful state, driving that long without brake(s).
Video clarity , flow , editing was awesome. Content is so well explained in simple language for anyone to understand. Johnny you narration was great. The product looks and feel promising.... great Korean work 😇👍🏼
It´s fun to see Johnny in a "Tamiya" T-shirt; for many RC car drivers Tamiya led the way from ICE to electric, beginning in the 1980s. My ICE RC cars are no longer ever driven - they´re too noisy, smelly and over-complex for me to bother with, when I can get all the performance and endurance I want from brushless motors and Lithium batteries. It´s interesting to watch the full-size car world catching up...
Absolutely killed it with the last bit of monologue! :) Loved it. Great car, indeed could be a game changer. For the price, it is probably the best affordable eSUV in the market today.
Yes. I would have preferred there were no _'engine looking stuff'_ under the hood at all. Just an open storage space, nothing more. I was pleased to see a generous front trunk _(frunk)_ in recent unveilings of RIVIAN automobiles.
@@luiscordeiro1397 Crossing the channel many hundreds of times, and there being myriad nationalities in the freight drivers restaurant on the ferries, make an urban dictionary unnecessary for a large number of expletives.
It's been said so much in the comments, but the cinematography, the editing, and conversion titles, even the subscribe and links cards animated at the end are brilliant. Do you guys read off of a script? Johnny is so good at this, that sometimes I think 6 producers write a script for him. But, I think Johnny is that smooth.
What I really like is that it still keeps the buttons ! I can not focus on driving if everything is done across the screen "literally everything" ! While here you do not need to dive into the screen to find something simple ..
Can you guys compress your videos into 10 minutes, when done right it's the ultimate youtube size and can be densely delicious to watch plus we all got stuff to do.
That is a decent family car for me, I always saw Nissan Leaf as a second car, would of got it this year if it had thermal cooling. You can’t spend that much money with that range and not have option to charge multiple times on a fast charger. This can be your main vehicle. Well done Hyundai, I had the Hyundai ioniq hybrid for two years and seems to have same technology which was great. Only problem I had was 3 door handles came off in my hand. Am I right at 3:27 it’s a CCS charger not CHAdeMO?
Superbly presented by one of my favourite motoring journalists. Excellent car that's why we have one on our fleet including an i3 and even a Twizy! The Kona is a superb value for money machine and if you can look past the shortfall in interior quality it really is a game changer at this price point for EV's.
I just wish Australia would hurry up and catch up with the rest of the civilised world and install the EV charging infrastructure. It looks like a normal petrol station but cleaner and quieter and I suppose a hell of a lot less smelly. They just need to add a machine I can buy my coffee and donuts from and I am sold
If EVs start selling in the millions, that charging station probably won't be that clean and quiet! In fact, EVs are going to need lots of more charging stations than petrol cars ever needed petrol stations to avoid people queuing up for charging...
I want one! i normally buy cars with 70 - 80k miles for about £2000 so maybe in about 10 years I'll be able to afford one. Excellent production, camera work and presentation.
Great overview of the car and it is good to see other car makers producing affordable long range EV's. That said, it is hard to agree that this is really a "game changer." At £31k ($40k), the model that Jonny was driving is just $5k cheaper than the mid-range (310 miles) model Tesla Model 3 at $45k. Seems like the autopilot, supercharging capability, performance, and styling of the Model 3 are well worth the extra $5k. And unlike the Kona electric (at least in the US), the Model 3 is available to buy now. By the time the Kona is available, Tesla will probably have even longer range for the same money as the cost of batteries continue their rapid decline.
@@thursdaythought7201 How so? Current Kona Electric Limited starts at $42.5k with less range, space, features, and styling than the Model 3 at $44.9k. Perhaps that's why Tesla sold about 10x more Model 3's in 2021 than Hyundai sold Kona Electrics, and that is why Hyundai's electric sales are stagnating while Tesla's are increasing. Also, Tesla's Model 3 was the 2nd best selling car of any kind (gas or electric) in the UK in 2021, despite the Berlin factory not being online yet. So how exactly is the Kona Electric a game changer?
@@kurtelia2212 Why are you comparing the top trim Kona Electric with the base trim Model 3 in terms of price. The top trim for the Kona isn't really worth it. Lets compare apples to apples. The Kona EV Sel is $34,000 (can be cheaper through costco/sam's) and is eligible for a $7,500 Federal Tax Credit. This brings it down to $26,500. The Model 3 is $44,900 with no federal tax credit and not found cheaper elsewhere. The Kona EV has an official estimated range of 258 miles while the model 3 has an estimated range of 267 miles. Tests have shown that the Kona EV actually has a longer range in real use cases (Tesla overstated their range and Hyundai understated their's). The Kona EV has a 0-60 of 6.5s while the Model 3 has a 0-60 of 5.8. The Kona EV can charge at 100 kW and the Model 3 can charge at 250 kW. This is nice, but doesn't charge 150% faster as one would think due to how batteries actually charge. Autopilot is an additional $10,000 for Model 3 and is slated to never go past Level 2 Self Driving- not worth it in my opinion. All together I think the base Kona EV is a much better value proposition than the base Model 3. I don't think the Model 3 is worth $18,400 more than the Kona EV.
@@thursdaythought7201 I compared the Kona’s Limited trim to the Model 3’s base trim because that was the most comparable in terms of actual features (heated steering wheel, leather seats, etc.), but even then, Tesla’s software, supercharger network, performance, and styling still more than make up for the price difference. Apples to apples as you say. Fair point about the tax credit, but that is only still available to Hyundai because they have sold so few of them. Which was my only real point. The Kona seems like a nice car and a good effort by Hyundai (honestly, it is a far cry better than the EVs that the other OEMs are producing). It is just hard to call it a “game changer” when they are selling so few of them.
@@kurtelia2212 The Kona limited trim is a worse value than the SEL and the model 3 base is the best value trim of the model 3. That is why it is unfair to compare the two for value. Even if you do compare them- the Kona Limited still beats it out in terms of value since it is at least $9,900 cheaper than the model 3. Also, I think you are confused about the model 3's features as it doesn't have leather seats and there is no option to chose leather seats. Arguing sales numbers doesn't effect the quality or value proposition of the cars. Sales numbers only indicate how many of that car have sold. I know plenty of people that own Tesla's and they weren't thinking about the price or the value when they bought it. Tesla's are popular because they are the "cool" EV.
from around 11:00 to 17:00 for about the last 4 mins of that period, i had forgot i was watching a youtube video and thought i was watching a movie! im not sure if it was the professional cuts and editing or maybe the way each shot was set up or what but there is a quality to the video that is rare and unusual for this platform.
@@chrisb3967 they do, but Kia is a lower-end brand. My understanding is the e-Niro will be slightly larger, but the underlying car platform will be the same as the Kona.
Your director has a good eye for lighting, that perfectly timed pitstop during sunset looked really quite nice, as did the rest of the episode. As per uge with this channel now, may I add.
Electricity is so cheap compared to gas vehicles and electric car are so efficient at around 90% compare to combustion engines that sits at around 15% efficiency so the cost of charging is not important thats why hes probably didnt mentioned it. But if you really need to know the cost of charging than its around 15 pound in electricity to cover 600 miles in kona as this car travels arouns 5 miles on one kwh
@@greg23842384 the price you quoted is if you charge it at home if you have to charge it on rapid chargers you have to pay over the odds for the pleasure
@@raptorpome2577 I get the sense of straws being grasped at given the "hasn't got the range" argument is destroyed. What's the realistic frequency of this "have to" scenario given a 300 mile EV? US and UK driving statistics show these kinds of journeys as once a year events. 600 miles of rapid charge costs about the same as a tank of petrol - so even assuming that the car left home empty, it's at price parity. (and of course, petrol always gets cheaper, and competition will do nothing to lower rapid charge costing)
When governments (as in UK) start to lose tax revenue from petrol sales they will soon work out how to recoup it from EVs (mileage charge?). Then they will be no cheaper to run.
@@raytrevor1 Fortunately there is a new technology on the horizon which will revolutionize all forms of transportation. Search TH-cam for graphene vids.
Very very good test drive, it seems the best affordable Ev on the market today, being a portuguese your last comment was hilarious. Thanks for charing.
as a "closet" fan of EVs, still trucking around in my gasoline V8... but following this channel for quite some time, I must say, this episode was next level. Well done, brilliant even. And I want a Kona.
US EPA ratings for this car from fueleconomy.gov: • range 258 miles • city 132 MPGe = 3.8 miles/kWh • combined 120 MPGe = 3.6 miles/kWh • highway 108 MPGe = 3.2 miles/kWh So most people aren't going to see 5.1 miles/kWh or 300 mile range, especially not on the highway. The 64 kWh Kona competes directly with Chevy Bolt EV and the medium range Tesla Model 3. So far it looks like the Kona is a step up from the Bolt, and should do well against the faster, sportier, but more expensive Model 3.
Great stuff. Jonny's road trip review and Bjorn Nylands 2 part test got me to Smiths Hyundai of Peterborough today to test the new Kona EV demo. Sales exec Graham Dee is the man to see. He gave me an extended drive in their demo. Top chap. Great Car, even better EV. Deposit placed. Long wait, for us in the UK but worth it.
Loved the link to the car, the conversions too :D Would like to hear the max power the car can charge with. Didn't mind at all that the episode came out later, the quality was top notch. Keep doing what you're doing. Hats off to you.
for me this is something that Hyundai did that tesla is struggling to do, even with their model3, the price is still too steep, at around 45-50K usd, most people cant afford EV. for the price of Kona, you are getting an amazing car with great range! Hyundai is no small car company and if they are making such car, i am pretty sure other car manufacturers will step up their EV aspirations to make better and cheaper EVs.. we are looking into a better future for EV industry.
I'm holding onto my 24kw leaf for year or two more. I was going to get a 40 kw leaf to replace it however after watching this I'm seriously considering the Kona as my next car. Brilliant video such high quality filming 👍
I've just checked the brochure. Maximum towing weight is zero. I think that is crazy. With all that torque from rest an EV is perfect for towing. I'm not sure what range you'd get with a caravan, but a small trailer would be no problem.
@@zapfanzapfan Youll get about half the range on an Ioniq with some bikes on the roof. A Tesla Model X uses 2.5 times the consumption when towing a trailer. So you can generally say that it does about a third of a range with a trailer. Shall be noted that it depends on the Aerodynamics of the trailer.
@@zapfanzapfan Maybe this is why there are so few electric cars with tow hitches - fear of customer backlash when people realize destroying the carefully engineered airflow by towing a big box destroys the range... which is a bit sad, because I'd love to have a Kona/Leaf/Golf-sized electric car which would let me use a trailer a few times a year to drive the 10kms to the recycling centre or just down the road to the DIY/building supplies store.
Hello Fully Charged. I just want to say I love what you guys do with this program. I love hearing about new upcoming technologies about green energy and EV's. It has gotta me excited about the future and makes me envious that I am not currently living in an area that isn't more Pro EV and into renewables. The ideas and concepts presented on these shows has gotta me excited about engineering and my life long dream of being an inventor or innovator. As soon as I can I will be a patron of your show and support what you do. It has given me new ideas and excitement for innovation. I would one day love to come visit you and your team to thank you personally for going out there and showing me what i couldn't even imagine possible.
It's definitely a nice car but for ppl like me, living on the shores of the EU, there will be that 20 yr old VW... Diesel. For 1/10th of the price. It's all I can afford, sorry.
Not only that but used EV’s will be the way to go. I just purchased a used Fiat 500e for 7k U.S dollars with 25k miles. It’s perfect for my short commute, the range won’t work for most but suites me. Just imagine what these Kona’s will sell for used 4-5 years from now.
@@imeverywhere9633 Everyone can buy one now, you can buy a 3 year old EV with 20,000 miles on it in the UK for £3,000. Yes. THREE. Because there is no used market for them.
These first EVs (i would still call the Kona one of the first) will be dirt cheap only a few years from now, because the technology is moving so fast, old models will have no real value on the used market. that on the other hand could actually be a really strong point for them if you want to buy a 3-4 year old used car in 2022 or so and have to decide if its going to be piston or electric.
Liked the conversation style of discussing the car's features. Thanks for checking out the boot! Back seat review was missing, though. Would be great if you could add that when reviewing the 39kWh version!
That was something that I thought was just an omission from the prototype cars first shown, but to see the Model 3 lacking it completely was pretty shocking. To me, this isn't a real HUD though since it's not projected onto the windscreen.
Esa Edvik - Yeah, but it’s *_something_* that means you don’t have to take your eyes off the road... cars in the 80s had HUDs, they don’t need to be whizbang full color deals (tho of course that’d be nice), but it’s a tech that sorely needs a comeback !!
@@grendelum You don't take your eyes off the road. Model 3 isn't the first car with a center-mounted display. Instead of looking down you look a bit to the right.
The Model 3 *_DEFINITELY DOES NOT_* need a HUD. At all. You can tell by the way people drive it just fine without one, and even those who claimed it needed one shut up about it once they got their cars. Even *Ben Sullins,* who had initially used an aftermarket means to install a HUD, tgen stopped using it, because it was dumb.
@@grendelum -- Cars in the 1980s had HUDs that _SUCKED._ They washed out in direct sunlight and were strictly monochrome. Let me know when full color hard light holographic displays are available.
Looks great! This channel has evolved really nicely, fully professional stuff! Funny seeing Robert using his phone in the charging station, I was thinking, someones going to tell him off soon...as per petrol station rules!
I've still got mine and drive it 95% of the time. It's paid for itself now in the fuel I've not had to buy. Great little car I can drive anywhere and park anywhere.
@@lysandermb I usually get over 70 miles in the summer and 60 in the winter for my iOn but I am in Rural Dorset. However I've found the ideal speed is actually slower rather than faster so 30 to 40 mph is optimum for range. Do you have the three levels of regen on yours? you know it's on all variants only they have it hidden. There's a good conversion guide which simply needs a little Dremel use on TH-cam by Kiwi EV Adventures. I did it to mine
I know this is a few months late but Jonny mentioned about him having to dip his head to see the HUD properly. The HUD in the Kona has the ability to tilt up or down so that you could adjust it perfectly to your natural viewing angle.
1 - I'm Portuguese. 2 - Kona, or more accurately, "Cona" (same pronunciation), is Portuguese vulgar slang for the nether regions of the female body, so it's 100% guaranteed it won't be sold here under that name. 3 - This It's not the first car with a similar name we had "problems" with. That would have been the Opel Ascona, the predecessor of the Opel Vectra.
One thing you didn't mention is that only Hyundai gives you a lifetime warranty on the battery pack and no other car manufacturer meet up to Hyundai. I have a plug in Hybrid Sonata , last year I put 3,150 miles with 17 gallons of gas. I love it!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊
@@TheMaximBond unfortunately yes, the prices may have changed since they shot this video or they forgot to include tax in their figures, but I have been looking to get one in the new year, I've instead opted for a second hand BMW hybrid for less than half the price.
@@mattym8038 you're right. Looks like they've forgotten to add the VAT. I was also choosing between the Kona and a used i3 for half the price and 1/3 of range. Btw, what is the waiting list for Kona EV in UK. I've ordered mine in Spain in August. Still hasn't arrived
thanks for the on-screen unit conversions
Freedom units.
Was gonna comment the same thing! :)
Indeed. I just happy they're using kWh and not BTU or MPGe... Although I did hear something about lbs-ft, but I assume that's how many times you have to walk to work to afford one.
@@RazsterTW Liberia units.
@thecouchtripper How much is 58 F in Celsius?
Yah! My wife's got that exact car. Her first full EV; she was always skeptical but loves it. Won't ever go back!
Hi There,
how's the car 9 months later? Range still good? Any other problems?
@John Wilde Thanks for taking this step. And helping keep our environment cleaner.
@ if you think like that why didn't you marry 1 of your own kind?
@ it's an Asian car u dimwit
@ I know old Chinese ladies can hardly drive but don't forget many of the best drifters and racers are Japanese
Thanks for translating the units! Well shot, well hosted, well edited, well produced.
I don't even drive, i'm not in the market for one of these but
FC is still one of my favoUrite (look, i translated in british!) YT channels ever,
cheers.
Agree with everything you said, except I'm not sure what FF is... do you mean FC? :p
FF = Feet Forward, the best stance for riding a motorcycle.
it stands for Fuck's fsake that's a typo lol @@JackFeelsNerves
@@alex0589 lol sorry, I couldn't resist! My comment doesn't make sense now that you've corrected it... d'oh! Shoe other foot.
also thank you for putting them high enough that I can still read them when I crop-to-fit on my 18:9 smartphone! :-D
who else wants a top Gear like EV show with Jonny and Robert? long road trips with electric banter and trivia? no...just me?
Arse warmers for everyone!
Luigiwoo i think the show is great but like many great you tube shows a move to mainstream tv would ruin it. The top gear format is too bloated and played out. EVs are the here and now in terms of automobiles and TH-cam is the most relevant source of content. It’s a perfect fit.
@@eddieallen6401 Do both. Publish on TH-cam and then license the content to the BBC to make something with it. Even if it's just a piece in another show. Would be a curious thing to see Fully Charged as a segment on Top Gear ;-)
May and Hammond driving a Kona EV and Tesla Model 3 with Clarkson driving the turbocharged AWD Hyundai Kona.
Pogo they’re too used to consuming resources and breaking stuff. They’re funny buggers though. Which counts for a lot.
The Kona EV is great. I have the opportunity to test 64kW it here in Europe and it's really a game changer competing with other EVs on the market. Price and range like no other. Cheers
It's too bad that they're building them at a loss. Therefore, you will not see many made.
@@AscendedSaiyan3 For manufacturer like Hyundai and Kia it will be, a little bite, but it's great advertise.🍻
How much did it cost?
@@Deuxiit it was 40k Euro.
@@TechnologyMove so just little cheaper then where i live. I didnt like the cheap interrior. Even the i30 feels like luxury car after Kona test drive. The range is nice thought 👍
Just bought one - loving it!!! Charged on our solar panels. Thanks for the review on Fully Charged. No regrets!!
How is the battery going, any depletion yet?
Update plz
Thanks for editing in SI units. Nice review
metric for the win.
Well, at least in UK, you cannot call them Freedom units, as they are not used anything as frequently as in the US.
MASTERRACE!
Yeah, they changed the kilogramme recently, hence my weight is now manageable.
They still had "KWh" and "KM", but definitely better than not having them in at all.
One of the best auto review channels out there! Like the casual conversation review style.
I gotta say, the shot at 9:10 where you pull out of the charging station at night, then emerge from the dark tunnel into the daylight was brilliant.
They have some very long tunnels on the continent.
Didn't he pull into the charging station in daylight? My concern is waiting for it to charge all the time.
They said about 40mins for it to charge to 80% which is fine by me because after driving 300 miles I would want a 40min break too.
And then it ate a leaf LOL about 3 seconds later.
U got a sharp eye for details
OMG! You are right about that front charger! Makes me think the Chevy Bolt placement on the side of car was much wiser!
Hyundai have leapfrogged Nissan here. You have to wonder how Nissan got the Leaf 2 so badly wrong. It's just an afterthought upgrade of a Leaf 1 with a few different body panels and a slightly bigger battery but not one that makes the car more flexible.
Well done Hyundai. I want one.
It depends what you mean by "leapfrogged" in terms of engineers, definitely yes! Production-wise they are churning out around half as many konas as leaf's. That is the biggest problem hyundai have.
Yes! Nissan Leaf2 is only for City use says Nissan...thats why they didnt equipped it with dedicated battery refrigeration....bad move!
This will happen numerous times over the next 10-20 years.
The tech is in a state of flux, it's likely that *any* car you buy will be superseded shortly after, sometimes by a little, sometimes by a lot, as batteries advance, or possibly other innovations, like the Skeleton hybrid supercap system.
The same happened with ice engines.
Overhead valves, "V" engines, hemispherical heads, superchargers, turbochargers, fuel injection, etc, all raised the game, but the changes were not noticed as the tech was more mature.
Nissan seems to have lost the plot. On the verge of releasing the 60kWh LG traction battery version of the Leaf (a design with proper thermal management, long overdue) their CEO gets arrested in Japan and the 60kWh version gets put on indefinite hold. I get the strong impression the Japanese Nissan board are not really interested in EVs, perhaps they would prefer hydrogen or gasoline.
The CEO, for all his apparent criminality, was the driving force behind the EV push at Nissan and Renault. You may well be right and the current hierarchy may not be too interested in EV advancement for the time being. Ultimately they'll have to get with the game or lose out big time. It won't take many more car launches with the Kona's range and price point before there's a sudden surge to EV's (availability issues permitting!) Petrol and Diesel cars will be about as desirable as the last generation of none smart phones within a few short years, you'll barely be able to give them away...
Amazing episode! So well produced, filmed and edited. Also thank you for converting the units!
5 miles per kWh is over 160 mpg e in American gallons. That is incredible.
I've had a Hyundai Ioniq for almost 2 years now. Regularly get 5.4 miles/kWh. The Kona seems like a great evolution, hope they can make enough to keep up demand.
@@aardvark3d Getting 5.4 out of my Leaf would be some extremely slow driving - how on earth do Hyundai do it? Is it weight?
160 mpg ? Fossil fuel is appox 10kwh per litre so that's about 225 mpg
@@MiniEggs1999 32.777 x 5.2 = 170 mpg e.
@@Aerostealth US Gallon 3.78L Imperial Gallon 4.54L
*There is absolutely no technical reason why cross channel ferries and trains can't fit chargers, so vehicles can be topped up while crossing the water. The first to do it will snatch a large chunk (if not all) of the EV market. To me it's just smart marketing, so why haven't the people getting paid big money come up with the idea?*
On an electric train it wouldn't be such a problem, however on a ferry you would likely need a dedicated diesel generator to produce enough electricity for all of the Chargers to function at once if need be! That would require more fuel and a lot of additional cost!
@@lustfulvengance A ferry already generates a massive amount of electricity to maintain the myriad systems that run on it. You can be reasonably assured that that the generated amount is at nowhere near it's capacity under operating conditions.
@@bren106 If thats the case then that would be a great idea!
They already do for refrigerated truck trailers to plug in while on the ferry.
Im an electrical and also software engineer. I am currently working on an FULL Electric Ferry. It has around 2700kWh battery and will be charged at both sides. But if you want to TOP UP the cars.. it will take alot energy from those onboard batteries. I would not recommend that. One way to the other side will cost like 250kWh. If you charge alot of electric cars it will really mess up the battery life of the ferry itself. So to answer your question: NO don't do that.
Fantastic with this extended test. Doing 1000 miles in a car teaches you things it is impossible to see in a short test.
Great review but the best thing about it was Jonny's Tamiya T-shirt.
I like this car alot, never thought I'd be tempted by an electric car but I am now. Nice one ☝️
Everyone has their critical mass for EVs. I said the same...until Feb. 14th when I bought my first EV! ;) What changed my mind? It was the Tesla Model 3. OMG.
I don't know how Robert and Jonny got started together, but I'm so glad they did. Not only are they a perfect Yin and Yang for the channel, they seem to genuinely get on well and have a lot of mutual respect. That's a solid foundation for this channel to keep growing, influencing and entertaining. Thank you Fully Charged for getting me enthused about EVs and for all the excellent content so far. The show is a joy to watch.
Headup Display Tip: You can adjust the position of the Info. So you can lower it, if you sit higher.
Battery Life Correct. I am 197 cm tall and I have no issue at all in Kona.
Yep. Took me a while to realise. I thought they just designed the car for me short wife....lol
@Qamishli Syria That makes the front window really expensive to replace if you have a stone chip etc
Great thanks for that info. I have a similar experience in a loan car, where I could not see the displayed info. I really like this car and am probably off to put down an order.
Mini Eggs how so? My 99 grand prix had projected the display on the windshield, its not part of the windshield at all.
I found this video particularly enjoyable. It was slightly longer than usual so there was more time to get into it. Also Jonny and Robert appearing together and discussing features is always a bonus.
Looks like the tipping point EV to me. Great film Jonny. Best car journo on the internet. Keep up the amazing work guys.
Think of it more like a ramp than a hill. It's inflexive all the way to the top! ;-)
This show uses amazing music. Compliments to the music editor.
@9:27 the Kona just ate a Leaf.. :-)
In the fall. Hyundai Nero/Ionic EV and Kia Soul EV will too. They all are getting the Kona range.
@@Kintizen You dont see it... look at what happens in the video at @9:27 and the few seconds after
@@Andthorup yes car was hungry
I thought he was going to hit it!
Another superb video from Jonnie, Robert and Mark. I like that date being shown at the beginning, so we can look back with nostalgia in the months and years to come.
Such good production and cinematography, very informative and insightful reviews - never change :)
Jason Baldry agreed. TV quality show.
indeed. It must have taken them a lot of time to put this video together as it was filmed in September (0:05). But it was totally worth the wait
I’d love to see this car being tested in winter conditions and see how the range is affected.
About -100 km in range and add 15 minutes charge time from 10-80%
I bought a kona premium se as my first electric car. Couldnt be happier. Ask me anything about it if you want to know.
How easy is it to find charge points? Is it well-integrated in the sat nav? Is remaining charge taken into account? What is the maximum DC wattage it can take? Thanks!
I'd like to know the range you can expect to get on a cold dark night - in heavy traffic - with the heater and lights on.
@@raytrevor1 Aerodynamics at high speed damages range much more than heating and lights, electric cars are incredibly efficient at slow speeds compared to piston vehicles.
That being said cold is relative, in the UK it wont effect range but much but in somewhere like Canada?
@@stevenbeiting756 its Easy to find charging points cause im from Norway. Also the 480km range gets you far without needing to charge. I dont use sat nav to find charging points. In Norway we have 2 companies who build chargers, and they have an app each with locations, live feed of what kind of chargers are availible. It can take 100kW if im not mistaken.
@@raytrevor1 i dont know about heavy traffic and why this would affect anything. The heating takes about 20km off the expected range (not driver only, in winter, outdoor temperature between 1 degree and minus 16 degree. for me I like the car to have 23 degrees celsius, 3 fan strength).
You can tweak with the settings and see the expected range change on the desktop. It DOES have a driver only air condition thingie which saves range, and also it has an eco+ mode if youve really made a fool of yourself with the planning.
But dude. The whole thing about this car is it remove range anxiety. Everyone is asking about range, and I dont get it. Cause I dont worry about it with this car :)
The impression I get is you can do what ever you want with it and you dont get punished as a result.
We drove 300km on a 80% charge, in winter at between - 1 and - 16 degrees. Car was cold before starting, having stood for days outside in minus 1 to minus 10. We stopped ONCE to charge, and we didnt really need to, it was more like a pee break with charging than the other way around.
Converting the units is great! Please keep on doing that.
GM just announced the killing of the Chevy Volt, the next day, Fully Charged reviews the Hyundai Kona EV. Fully Charged states that the Kona EV "Is really a Game Changer". The Kona EV proves that big car companies CAN do EVs RIGHT, if they choose to. Every review of the Kona EV I've seen has been simply "Glowing" in their opinions of this "Game Changing" Electric Vehicle. Hyundai recently announced that they have increased their Kona EV production to 4,000 units per month, I think they could easily double production to 8,000 units per month and still not fill all the demand in the foreseeable future. It is interesting how everybody was focused on Tesla reaching 5,000 Model 3's per week and how NOBODY even mentions how paltry 4,000 Kona EVs per month is compared to Tesla's 25.000 (+/-) Model 3's monthly production rate. AND GM's Low Volume production of the Chevy Bolt is JUST EMBARRASSING !!!!!!
Hyundai could sell 80,000 per month worldwide. They're just being lazy with production at this point.
@@Secretlyanothername They are not lazy. They just have a bottleneck in the supply chain and that is batteries. Tesla has Gigafactory for that exact purpose.
Trump pulling the subsidiaries from GM is going to kill their chances at a great car. Killing the Volt was the worst thing they can do, and with the subsidy being pulled there goes the EV market for GM and possibly the US. The govt seems hell bent on killing the EV yet again. Add the Nissan Scandal that's going to kill the 60kwh leaf and it's game over. Glad Hyundai is killing it!!! Dump the hydrogen cars, EV is the future!
@@Secretlyanothername I second what Vlad said. Also we don't know if Hyundai is losing money selling these vehicles, like most manufacturers still seem to be. If they are, then there's certainly no reason to increase the numbers that much.
Good post. But in fairness? GM actually first annonced their intent to CANCEL the VOLT last year, maybe ten months after the BOLT was released in late 2016.
The HUD is adjustable in the settings. I’m 6’3” and I see it fine.
tell me about the space in the backseat, how is it?
Does your Kona have a sunroof? How is the headroom?
Those Koreans are no longer an automotive laughing stock. I love my hybrid Ioniq and full ev will be next
Good shout!
The upgraded Ioniq EV with some of the Kona tech, bigger battery, more kW motor, will be awesome.
We've covered 7k miles in 5 months and love our Ioniq EV!
They're not. Now just give me everything about this car, but in my 2006 Hyundai coupe body, instead of its dull family wagon mini SUV shape and I'll be over the moon ;)
@@NewmanAutomotiveI know, I love it, but GOD is it ugly.
I’ve got the Electric Ioniq Premium SE and I’m fully with you, the car is lovely! Even in winter time with the heaters blasting I can still get 139 miles from the thing!
American cars take the crown for shittiest reputation by far. Korean cars have never had that bad of a reputation. Not even close.
I think this could be one of the best episodes yet, quality fantastic and the car appears to be anazing. Well done all concerned.
Unless Tesla can increase production on the affordable model 3 (not the $50k model they currently selling) the kona could blow them out of the market - it would be hilarious if of all the car companies it’s Hyundai who ends up being the Tesla killer.
Why? I expect actually the Korean's to own the EV market in 10 years. If you look at it.. it's pretty NORMAL actually. They got LG/Samsung they got big battery technology in Korea. In conjunction with Hyundai & Kia it would just be normal actually. I just don't understand why Japan isn't doing so well. They got Panasonic! Where is Toyota? Still sucking on the Hydrogen Hoax?
@@HermanWillems Because Tesla is considered a "premium" brand and the fan boys give it such praise that it skews the reviews - it hits highest on customer satisfaction yet has numerous issues that are brushed over by the customer.
I know the Koreans, especially Hyundai have really improved their cars, but the Kona came out of nowhere, Tesla has such amazing public relations that the $35K electric car is the model 3... Even though they aren't making any (every model 3 currently sold is more than $50k version).
It didn't come out of nowhere. It was announced 2 years ago. Also Kia Soul and the Hyundai Ionic getting the Kona treatment. So technically they Koreans are going to have 3 EV with 250-300 mile range.
@@Kintizen out of nowhere as in no viral publicity like Tesla and as a "real" car company, Hyundai will get criticized for even the smallest points. Could you image the reviews if someone received their Kona with mismatched paint or doors that don't line up? They would be mocked mercilessly as cheap Korean cars while Tesla does that regularly and is still a "premium" car
it is hard to agree that this is really a "game changer." At £31k ($40k), the model that Jonny was driving is just $5k cheaper than the mid-range (310 miles) model Tesla Model 3 at $45k. Seems like the autopilot, supercharging capability, performance, and styling of the Model 3 are well worth the extra $5k. And unlike the Kona electric (at least in the US), the Model 3 is available to buy now. By the time the Kona is available, Tesla will probably have even longer range for the same money as the cost of batteries continue their rapid decline.
You guys put out consistently amazingly well produced content. I love it.
Also with how windy it was at ~10minutes, great work on keeping that audio clean.
Thank you for keeping us from the metric world in mind. Miles are one of the more confusing distances.
Thanks so much for the on-screen units conversion and descriptions and disclaimers. You made me love every bit of this video.
Great piece of filming. Great information. Very well explained. Well done all.
Jonny Smith does a really really top job, lots of practical info. Well done that man.
I would rather live with this than a model 3 simply because the interior has buttons to control things as opposed to a single screen.
Dean, I've had 2 Model 3s and sold them both due to the screen UI and lack of a 2nd information screen or a head up display in front of the driver. The efficiency and driving dynamics of the Model 3 are brilliant, but the single screen and the distraction of controlling things are a big fail. This will be corrected with voice control, but it is too slow coming.
There is a natural split here. You guys can’t work with a single screen and I am happy with a single screen.
My last BMW had 50 buttons. It is crazy. Fifty. Nonsense. I don’t miss any of those buttons.
Just a great channel guys-every review is first rate. Thank you for all the effort that goes in to making such slick reviews. And making them so accessible - bloody brilliant x
Thank you Kaine, we do try!
If they can cut the charge time from 75 min to 35 min, and that has probably already been done, then there is no stopping EVs. I mean, name one person who can drive longer that 450km at one go.
Well, I do drive
I am Brazilian, here we easily travel around 500km on a trip
Name one person for whom it would be healthy to do so. Bathroom brakes and a meal would be suitable with that range, I would compare ticket prices, not only because gas is expensive (something that doesn't apply) but also, because I would be in an awful state, driving that long without brake(s).
@@mateusoliveira8373 Do you mean without any coffee brakes?
@@mateusoliveira8373 Without going to the toilet or eating any food?
Video clarity , flow , editing was awesome. Content is so well explained in simple language for anyone to understand.
Johnny you narration was great. The product looks and feel promising.... great Korean work 😇👍🏼
It´s fun to see Johnny in a "Tamiya" T-shirt; for many RC car drivers Tamiya led the way from ICE to electric, beginning in the 1980s. My ICE RC cars are no longer ever driven - they´re too noisy, smelly and over-complex for me to bother with, when I can get all the performance and endurance I want from brushless motors and Lithium batteries. It´s interesting to watch the full-size car world catching up...
AHH thanks for the education
Kudos for clearly stating on screen when it was recorded. Helps both now, and when watching in the future.
"i won't tell you what the word kona in portuguese means" lmao, i loved that one jonny!
In Polish means someone who is dying. In agony.
Absolutely killed it with the last bit of monologue! :) Loved it. Great car, indeed could be a game changer. For the price, it is probably the best affordable eSUV in the market today.
Yeah, I'm portuguese and here Hyundai will have to give other word to the car. Eager to see your review in Sono e-cars, also very promising.
It will be called the Kauai.
wow, your videos are awesome, high quality review, very good music, wonderful editing.
i'm sure this channel is the best car review channel. love it !
Felt so good when Jonny pulled that stupid looking plastic 'engine' cover off.
He should have binned that cover - would have improved the range by 2 miles.
Agreed. It looks much better without it.
Yes. I would have preferred there were no _'engine looking stuff'_ under the hood at all. Just an open storage space, nothing more. I was pleased to see a generous front trunk _(frunk)_ in recent unveilings of RIVIAN automobiles.
@@redxsage - A front trunk is a frunk, eh? So here in Britain it would be a froot...
Brilliant as always Robert and Johnny. Keep up the good work.
*You just know that the next webpage opened after watching this will be Google translate for a majority of people.*
you will probably need an urban dictionary for that one
@@luiscordeiro1397 Crossing the channel many hundreds of times, and there being myriad nationalities in the freight drivers restaurant on the ferries, make an urban dictionary unnecessary for a large number of expletives.
@@bren106 sure thing. Just saying gogle translate will not do the trick :) Happy watchings!
Luís Cordeiro true. So enlighten us please?
@@yannickjolie7336 Rhymes with front.
Honestly, this channel (and content) keeps getting better and better. Great job!
Ahah Thanks for the Portuguese reference. Actually it was the reason why they changed the name of it from Kona to Kauai around here
It's been said so much in the comments, but the cinematography, the editing, and conversion titles, even the subscribe and links cards animated at the end are brilliant. Do you guys read off of a script? Johnny is so good at this, that sometimes I think 6 producers write a script for him. But, I think Johnny is that smooth.
What I really like is that it still keeps the buttons !
I can not focus on driving if everything is done across the screen "literally everything" !
While here you do not need to dive into the screen to find something simple ..
Can you guys compress your videos into 10 minutes, when done right it's the ultimate youtube size and can be densely delicious to watch plus we all got stuff to do.
That is a decent family car for me, I always saw Nissan Leaf as a second car, would of got it this year if it had thermal cooling. You can’t spend that much money with that range and not have option to charge multiple times on a fast charger. This can be your main vehicle. Well done Hyundai, I had the Hyundai ioniq hybrid for two years and seems to have same technology which was great. Only problem I had was 3 door handles came off in my hand. Am I right at 3:27 it’s a CCS charger not CHAdeMO?
The HUD issue isn't an issue. You can adjust the position of the projection. I am 195cm and see it fine.
@ 3:25 "Chad Emo, lovely guy" (you crack me up Jonny, great off handed delivery too!)
Great episode. Props to the audiovisual team, the episode looks and sounds really good!
Yesterday I didn't know at all the existance of this Kona Electric....next week I booked a test drive at a Hyundai dealer 👍
how was it?
Superbly presented by one of my favourite motoring journalists. Excellent car that's why we have one on our fleet including an i3 and even a Twizy! The Kona is a superb value for money machine and if you can look past the shortfall in interior quality it really is a game changer at this price point for EV's.
I just wish Australia would hurry up and catch up with the rest of the civilised world and install the EV charging infrastructure.
It looks like a normal petrol station but cleaner and quieter and I suppose a hell of a lot less smelly. They just need to add a machine I can buy my coffee and donuts from and I am sold
Exactly what I wish for my country to do do as well
Not with L & L party in power, there are too busy looking after there mates in coal and petroleum. sector.
If EVs start selling in the millions, that charging station probably won't be that clean and quiet!
In fact, EVs are going to need lots of more charging stations than petrol cars ever needed petrol stations to avoid people queuing up for charging...
@@PrimiusLovin at least you can fill up at home, but yeah any long distance touring will be interesting in the future.
@@songforguy1 in future charging of an EV will be done in about 5 minuts - same time u need to fillup your ICE car ;)
I want one! i normally buy cars with 70 - 80k miles for about £2000 so maybe in about 10 years I'll be able to afford one. Excellent production, camera work and presentation.
Great overview of the car and it is good to see other car makers producing affordable long range EV's. That said, it is hard to agree that this is really a "game changer." At £31k ($40k), the model that Jonny was driving is just $5k cheaper than the mid-range (310 miles) model Tesla Model 3 at $45k. Seems like the autopilot, supercharging capability, performance, and styling of the Model 3 are well worth the extra $5k. And unlike the Kona electric (at least in the US), the Model 3 is available to buy now. By the time the Kona is available, Tesla will probably have even longer range for the same money as the cost of batteries continue their rapid decline.
Well this didn’t age all that well
@@thursdaythought7201 How so? Current Kona Electric Limited starts at $42.5k with less range, space, features, and styling than the Model 3 at $44.9k. Perhaps that's why Tesla sold about 10x more Model 3's in 2021 than Hyundai sold Kona Electrics, and that is why Hyundai's electric sales are stagnating while Tesla's are increasing. Also, Tesla's Model 3 was the 2nd best selling car of any kind (gas or electric) in the UK in 2021, despite the Berlin factory not being online yet. So how exactly is the Kona Electric a game changer?
@@kurtelia2212 Why are you comparing the top trim Kona Electric with the base trim Model 3 in terms of price. The top trim for the Kona isn't really worth it.
Lets compare apples to apples.
The Kona EV Sel is $34,000 (can be cheaper through costco/sam's) and is eligible for a $7,500 Federal Tax Credit. This brings it down to $26,500.
The Model 3 is $44,900 with no federal tax credit and not found cheaper elsewhere.
The Kona EV has an official estimated range of 258 miles while the model 3 has an estimated range of 267 miles. Tests have shown that the Kona EV actually has a longer range in real use cases (Tesla overstated their range and Hyundai understated their's).
The Kona EV has a 0-60 of 6.5s while the Model 3 has a 0-60 of 5.8.
The Kona EV can charge at 100 kW and the Model 3 can charge at 250 kW. This is nice, but doesn't charge 150% faster as one would think due to how batteries actually charge.
Autopilot is an additional $10,000 for Model 3 and is slated to never go past Level 2 Self Driving- not worth it in my opinion.
All together I think the base Kona EV is a much better value proposition than the base Model 3. I don't think the Model 3 is worth $18,400 more than the Kona EV.
@@thursdaythought7201 I compared the Kona’s Limited trim to the Model 3’s base trim because that was the most comparable in terms of actual features (heated steering wheel, leather seats, etc.), but even then, Tesla’s software, supercharger network, performance, and styling still more than make up for the price difference. Apples to apples as you say. Fair point about the tax credit, but that is only still available to Hyundai because they have sold so few of them. Which was my only real point. The Kona seems like a nice car and a good effort by Hyundai (honestly, it is a far cry better than the EVs that the other OEMs are producing). It is just hard to call it a “game changer” when they are selling so few of them.
@@kurtelia2212 The Kona limited trim is a worse value than the SEL and the model 3 base is the best value trim of the model 3. That is why it is unfair to compare the two for value.
Even if you do compare them- the Kona Limited still beats it out in terms of value since it is at least $9,900 cheaper than the model 3. Also, I think you are confused about the model 3's features as it doesn't have leather seats and there is no option to chose leather seats.
Arguing sales numbers doesn't effect the quality or value proposition of the cars. Sales numbers only indicate how many of that car have sold. I know plenty of people that own Tesla's and they weren't thinking about the price or the value when they bought it. Tesla's are popular because they are the "cool" EV.
from around 11:00 to 17:00 for about the last 4 mins of that period, i had forgot i was watching a youtube video and thought i was watching a movie! im not sure if it was the professional cuts and editing or maybe the way each shot was set up or what but there is a quality to the video that is rare and unusual for this platform.
love the Tamiya shirt.
When men were men and electric cars were electric cars (1:14 scale but they didn't half go).
@@ouethojlkjn that is correct, haha miss those days.
Offset Me too! My first electric car was a Tamiya Hornet. Range was pretty poor! 15 minutes on a full charge!
my concern with a front charger is I prefer to back in when I park and I suspect I may need to front in at most charging spots
I hope you guys get to test the Niro EV from Kia, it's very similar but a little bigger.
Please do this!
Bjorn did extensive test on the car.
Don’t Hyundai own Kia..?
@@chrisb3967 it's explained well on Wikipedia
@@chrisb3967 they do, but Kia is a lower-end brand. My understanding is the e-Niro will be slightly larger, but the underlying car platform will be the same as the Kona.
Your director has a good eye for lighting, that perfectly timed pitstop during sunset looked really quite nice, as did the rest of the episode. As per uge with this channel now, may I add.
Good review but how come you didn't provide information on the cost for recharging on that 1000km trip? To me that is a big point in overall cost.
Electricity is so cheap compared to gas vehicles and electric car are so efficient at around 90% compare to combustion engines that sits at around 15% efficiency so the cost of charging is not important thats why hes probably didnt mentioned it. But if you really need to know the cost of charging than its around 15 pound in electricity to cover 600 miles in kona as this car travels arouns 5 miles on one kwh
@@greg23842384 the price you quoted is if you charge it at home if you have to charge it on rapid chargers you have to pay over the odds for the pleasure
@@raptorpome2577 I get the sense of straws being grasped at given the "hasn't got the range" argument is destroyed.
What's the realistic frequency of this "have to" scenario given a 300 mile EV?
US and UK driving statistics show these kinds of journeys as once a year events.
600 miles of rapid charge costs about the same as a tank of petrol - so even assuming that the car left home empty, it's at price parity.
(and of course, petrol always gets cheaper, and competition will do nothing to lower rapid charge costing)
When governments (as in UK) start to lose tax revenue from petrol sales they will soon work out how to recoup it from EVs (mileage charge?). Then they will be no cheaper to run.
@@raytrevor1 Fortunately there is a new technology on the horizon which will revolutionize all forms of transportation. Search TH-cam for graphene vids.
First time I've come across this show. Saw Johnny's face and thought these will be good and they are!
It's like taking a drive with Ringo Star.
Very very good test drive, it seems the best affordable Ev on the market today, being a portuguese your last comment was hilarious. Thanks for charing.
Surely that's a CCS connector, not a Chademo?
Yeah I replayed it twice after he said Chademo, definitely CCS
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as a "closet" fan of EVs, still trucking around in my gasoline V8... but following this channel for quite some time, I must say, this episode was next level. Well done, brilliant even. And I want a Kona.
US EPA ratings for this car from fueleconomy.gov:
• range 258 miles
• city 132 MPGe = 3.8 miles/kWh
• combined 120 MPGe = 3.6 miles/kWh
• highway 108 MPGe = 3.2 miles/kWh
So most people aren't going to see 5.1 miles/kWh or 300 mile range, especially not on the highway.
The 64 kWh Kona competes directly with Chevy Bolt EV and the medium range Tesla Model 3. So far it looks like the Kona is a step up from the Bolt, and should do well against the faster, sportier, but more expensive Model 3.
MPGe what a stupid unit
Great stuff. Jonny's road trip review and Bjorn Nylands 2 part test got me to Smiths Hyundai of Peterborough today to test the new Kona EV demo. Sales exec Graham Dee is the man to see. He gave me an extended drive in their demo. Top chap. Great Car, even better EV. Deposit placed. Long wait, for us in the UK but worth it.
Great review Jonny!
Can you please share how much money was spent in charging the car for the total of the 1018 miles you rode it?
Based on Robert's Regen report, I'd say around £35
Loved the link to the car, the conversions too :D Would like to hear the max power the car can charge with.
Didn't mind at all that the episode came out later, the quality was top notch. Keep doing what you're doing.
Hats off to you.
for me this is something that Hyundai did that tesla is struggling to do, even with their model3, the price is still too steep, at around 45-50K usd, most people cant afford EV.
for the price of Kona, you are getting an amazing car with great range!
Hyundai is no small car company and if they are making such car, i am pretty sure other car manufacturers will step up their EV aspirations to make better and cheaper EVs..
we are looking into a better future for EV industry.
I'm holding onto my 24kw leaf for year or two more. I was going to get a 40 kw leaf to replace it however after watching this I'm seriously considering the Kona as my next car. Brilliant video such high quality filming 👍
Can you put a tow hitch on it and what is the range with a caravan?
I've just checked the brochure. Maximum towing weight is zero. I think that is crazy. With all that torque from rest an EV is perfect for towing. I'm not sure what range you'd get with a caravan, but a small trailer would be no problem.
Thank's for checking. Guess it will be a while longer before I get an electric car...
@@zapfanzapfan Youll get about half the range on an Ioniq with some bikes on the roof. A Tesla Model X uses 2.5 times the consumption when towing a trailer. So you can generally say that it does about a third of a range with a trailer. Shall be noted that it depends on the Aerodynamics of the trailer.
travelguy78 Yes, I read a review by someone who tried a caravan holiday with a Tesla Model X who was quite disappointed by the lack of range.
@@zapfanzapfan Maybe this is why there are so few electric cars with tow hitches - fear of customer backlash when people realize destroying the carefully engineered airflow by towing a big box destroys the range... which is a bit sad, because I'd love to have a Kona/Leaf/Golf-sized electric car which would let me use a trailer a few times a year to drive the 10kms to the recycling centre or just down the road to the DIY/building supplies store.
Hello Fully Charged. I just want to say I love what you guys do with this program. I love hearing about new upcoming technologies about green energy and EV's. It has gotta me excited about the future and makes me envious that I am not currently living in an area that isn't more Pro EV and into renewables. The ideas and concepts presented on these shows has gotta me excited about engineering and my life long dream of being an inventor or innovator. As soon as I can I will be a patron of your show and support what you do. It has given me new ideas and excitement for innovation. I would one day love to come visit you and your team to thank you personally for going out there and showing me what i couldn't even imagine possible.
It's definitely a nice car but for ppl like me, living on the shores of the EU, there will be that 20 yr old VW... Diesel. For 1/10th of the price. It's all I can afford, sorry.
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It’s ok, EVs are still in their early phase, once it’s more mainstream everyone can buy one..
Not only that but used EV’s will be the way to go. I just purchased a used Fiat 500e for 7k U.S dollars with 25k miles. It’s perfect for my short commute, the range won’t work for most but suites me. Just imagine what these Kona’s will sell for used 4-5 years from now.
@@imeverywhere9633 Everyone can buy one now, you can buy a 3 year old EV with 20,000 miles on it in the UK for £3,000. Yes. THREE. Because there is no used market for them.
These first EVs (i would still call the Kona one of the first) will be dirt cheap only a few years from now, because the technology is moving so fast, old models will have no real value on the used market. that on the other hand could actually be a really strong point for them if you want to buy a 3-4 year old used car in 2022 or so and have to decide if its going to be piston or electric.
@@themightydash1714 wheres that then ? not auto trader as my daughter needs one
Liked the conversation style of discussing the car's features. Thanks for checking out the boot! Back seat review was missing, though. Would be great if you could add that when reviewing the 39kWh version!
I’ve wanted a HUD in an EV forever... it’s such a no brainer and adds so much and the *Model 3 **_definitely_* needs one.
That was something that I thought was just an omission from the prototype cars first shown, but to see the Model 3 lacking it completely was pretty shocking. To me, this isn't a real HUD though since it's not projected onto the windscreen.
Esa Edvik - Yeah, but it’s *_something_* that means you don’t have to take your eyes off the road... cars in the 80s had HUDs, they don’t need to be whizbang full color deals (tho of course that’d be nice), but it’s a tech that sorely needs a comeback !!
@@grendelum You don't take your eyes off the road. Model 3 isn't the first car with a center-mounted display. Instead of looking down you look a bit to the right.
The Model 3 *_DEFINITELY DOES NOT_* need a HUD. At all. You can tell by the way people drive it just fine without one, and even those who claimed it needed one shut up about it once they got their cars. Even *Ben Sullins,* who had initially used an aftermarket means to install a HUD, tgen stopped using it, because it was dumb.
@@grendelum -- Cars in the 1980s had HUDs that _SUCKED._ They washed out in direct sunlight and were strictly monochrome. Let me know when full color hard light holographic displays are available.
EXCELLENT VIDEO!! THANKS! We bought the 2019 Kia Niro Hybrid and LOVE IT!.. In 3 years we will get the all electric version...
Lol, in Portugal they have renamed it Kauai. Yeah Kona in Portuguese its a very nasty word.
Looks great! This channel has evolved really nicely, fully professional stuff! Funny seeing Robert using his phone in the charging station, I was thinking, someones going to tell him off soon...as per petrol station rules!
Where's all the love gone for the iMiEV??? Lol. Give us more iMiEV videos!!! It was an enormous pioneer!
I've still got mine and drive it 95% of the time. It's paid for itself now in the fuel I've not had to buy. Great little car I can drive anywhere and park anywhere.
I love my 2012 iMiEV. But I’m lucky to get 4 miles per kWh in the summer (stop start London crawling).
@@lysandermb I usually get over 70 miles in the summer and 60 in the winter for my iOn but I am in Rural Dorset. However I've found the ideal speed is actually slower rather than faster so 30 to 40 mph is optimum for range. Do you have the three levels of regen on yours? you know it's on all variants only they have it hidden. There's a good conversion guide which simply needs a little Dremel use on TH-cam by Kiwi EV Adventures. I did it to mine
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Great Car, 3 years from now America will still be waiting for this car.Can't make em in any number any time soon.
Metric System is King. 👍👍👍
No one cares..
@@dograishan8504 All important people cares.
Metric system is satanic my pastor told me😝
@@2.3_44XD-- *_ Only because he's a 'Flat-Earther' _*
I know this is a few months late but Jonny mentioned about him having to dip his head to see the HUD properly. The HUD in the Kona has the ability to tilt up or down so that you could adjust it perfectly to your natural viewing angle.
As Polish I have a huge problem with that car’s name. Hyundai Kona in polish means „Hyundai is dying” :)
Kudus to Fully Charged, this evaluation was the clincher, this is the one everyone is waiting for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 - I'm Portuguese.
2 - Kona, or more accurately, "Cona" (same pronunciation), is Portuguese vulgar slang for the nether regions of the female body, so it's 100% guaranteed it won't be sold here under that name.
3 - This It's not the first car with a similar name we had "problems" with. That would have been the Opel Ascona, the predecessor of the Opel Vectra.
Imagine an Opel AssCona:))
Kona is a city on the west coast of Big Island in Hawaii ....
One thing you didn't mention is that only Hyundai gives you a lifetime warranty on the battery pack and no other car manufacturer meet up to Hyundai.
I have a plug in Hybrid Sonata , last year I put 3,150 miles with 17 gallons of gas.
I love it!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊
Premium SE is nearly £36000 after government subsidies.
Really? In the video, they are saying 30k..
Premium SE is 45k euros in Spain and France before the subsidies
@@TheMaximBond unfortunately yes, the prices may have changed since they shot this video or they forgot to include tax in their figures, but I have been looking to get one in the new year, I've instead opted for a second hand BMW hybrid for less than half the price.
@@mattym8038 you're right. Looks like they've forgotten to add the VAT.
I was also choosing between the Kona and a used i3 for half the price and 1/3 of range.
Btw, what is the waiting list for Kona EV in UK. I've ordered mine in Spain in August. Still hasn't arrived
@@TheMaximBond my local dealer said 1st quarter of 2019.
and after 3 years it'll be worth £3,000 like every other EV.
Beautiful images and very good comments, the Kona is really a gamechanger like Fastned is to the world of charging an EV!