For electric cars yeah no competition...Koenigsegg cars are revolutionizing hybrid petrol car technology ..dinosaur age of petrol will have a new life in the future too
*Nice car.* Kia hit the Jackpot with this car. They can use the same factory to produce a hybrid and an electric version of this car. We will all benefit from cleaner air that those cars save us to breathe.
@@_TrueDesire_ thats a bit of a logical fallacy. Obviously every less car that pollutes NOx and SOx and CO2 the better the air is. Its not an all or nothing situation
@@ryanbellyt but there's a witch hunt on the working class people buying bog standard cheaper fossil cars, there is no whip against the other transport vehicles.
@@hoepsipoepsi coal power plants are far more efficient than internal combustion and produce far less NOx and SOx. Further more they produce this outside of densely populated areas
I sure hope so because I laid my money down and I was informed that I am very close to the final bottom line but kia is still keeping the msrp a secret until April so I am patiently waiting for my new car and I am ready!
Also worth noting that they have just announced that there was a mistake made on their official WLTP range figures. They have reduced it to 282mi (454 km). cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/electric-kia-e-niros-official-range-reduced-following-test-error/162071
By far the best car review i ever saw!! First of all NO irritating music. Calm informed way of presenting, pleasant voice, filmed in such a way you get a good impression. Bravo!
Wow Johnny your reviews are so in depth. I really appreciate the research you do before getting behind the wheel. I've learned a lot today watching this, and as a current KIA owner would consider buying the e-Niro in the future.
@@FancyaBevMate Australian perspective, Nissan Australia imported under 600 superseded 24 kWh Leafs. Only allowed 12 dealers in the whole country to sell them. Installed no public chargers, not even slow chargers. Didn't advertise it. (A friend got a sales job with them and after a week of product training at head office had never heard of the Leaf) Supplied a charge cord that didn't fit a household socket and then had the cheek to charge double what they sold it for in every other market. Now they're needing new batteries, and people are being charged 38000 (about 15000 pounds) for a replacement.
Fully Charged = E-TopGear Great show , very well done. & highly entertaining I'm a multiple new car dealership owner . racer & all around auto enthusiast. Who's owned & drove and sold many high performance & exotic cars that have HUGE carbon footprints. But i absolutely love this show , the presenter & The production of FullyCharged all around. I'm currently designing a. Fully Electric. Solor powerd motorhome at the moment. Think about traveling across Continents comfortably In your Zero emissions home on wheels & not having to depend on fossil fuels or an internal combustion engine . I absolutely love the sound the torque. and the feeling etc. of an I.C.Engine ! But i love mother earth even more . And want my children & grandchildren to enjoy it's spender also . Thanks Fully Charged !
If u really love mother earth u wouldnt have any kids. We already hv 7.5 billion ppl on the planet... most scientists agree 2 billion is the carrying cap of humans... with respect to all other sentient beings. We are way over carrying capacity.... besides latest ipcc report says we only hv 10 yrs to stop runaway climate chaos!! Meaning if we dont All change our lifestyles your kids are fkd! I already decided Not to hv kids.
@@frankfitzpatrick5300 good job... it all counts. Regardless of the past... we all need to work together to change the future. For example... one simple thing we can all do. If everyone planted just 10 trees. Imagine 7.5billion x10 trees could quickly reduce co2 in the air. Trees give shade, sequester carbon, give oxygen, prevents erosion, filters water, gives fruit, and in a group create a microclimate which produces rain!!
@@frankfitzpatrick5300 obviously we need to reduce our impact as much as possible... like reducing our consumption. Just buying less crap overall reduces manufacturing and use of fossil fuels. Its a whole system youtube.. the story of stuff...
i can't wait for the e-Nero to come to Canada even though i wont be buying one any time soon as im only 15 but i am currently saving up for a used 2012 Nissan leaf or 2014 spark ev
I endorse your passion. don't let anything stop you from saving. Good EV driving. + You will be able to make some money selling electric back to the grid in Canada at peak demand (Soooon)
i recently got my first taste of ev driving its a Chinese Honda e grom electric motorcycle it only get 20 km of range but getting it was what really got me into ev's
@@JonasOnAutos It pretty much every rider that rides a electric bike falls in love with them. Which surprise me because I always thought of motorcyclists being the most into then noise size of things.
the big push for me to get into ev's was the fact i was going to be paying 300 dollars a month just to have insurance (as a new driver )not including gas so the idea of not only spending $300 a month just for the right to drive a car but also spending a $1.40 a liter on gas seemed insane. i was able to work out that if i got a ford focus ev or first gen chevy volt sure i would be spending upwards of $6000 to $9000 on a car but the lack of maintenance and the fact i wont be paying insane gas prices allows it to even out and when i pass the 3 year mark the car will have paid for itself and will start technically making me money as i wont have taken a big hit on depreciation.
I can see this and the Kona overtaking the new Leaf very quickly. They both are really game-changing cars, and unless constricted by some other factor, I would not look at a Leaf having seen these two.
You will have to compare those to the next Leaf refresh to really say but they dont target the same population, the leaf looks so much better for example.
There will be a significant waitinglist on the eNiro, Kona Electric and probably the new Soul Electric. The Leaf wins in availability and slightly more storage than the Kona. I would also think Nissan is a bit ahead in autonomous systems, see the old video from Fully Charged on how aware it was of its surroundings, but we have yet to see if Nissan will use this advantage in their next Leaf e-plus model.
I agree that the Kona and Niro are potentially game changers, but the key issue here is availability. Sadly there is a very long waiting time for the Kona and I suspect the same will apply for the Niro. The Kona is a little smaller than I would have preferred and the Niro looks a better size, but the Kona is an excellent drive and I think the Ioniq, the Kona and Niro leave the leaf in the dust on the really important aspects of drive train efficiency and battery management. On a motorway speed run in cold weather I managed 4.1 miles/KWH and on local driving I get between 5 and 5.6 miles/KWH in the Kona.
davidarf and also the are refusing to bring the Niro to Australia, and either cancelled or postponed the launch of the Kona Ev in Australia. Very sad, very disappointing.
It's good that all manufacturers are not targeting the same market. The Koreans are doing functional (if a little bland) mid price EV's with good equipment and range. Audi have a really well specc'd SUV. Jaguar have a AWD hot hatch (It's really not an SUV...) in the I-Pace for people who want performance. People who buy ttaditional SUV's and fast cars don't care too much about efficiency and I don't think they are going to start now just because the propulsion system has changed. I have personally placed an order for an I-Pace because for me to leave turbo'd cars, I need an EV that excities me, and the Jag does that in spades. There is a market for all kinds of different EV's. Let's enjoy them, whatever you choose!
While the iPace may not be what everyone thinks of as an SUV, it is at least 4WD. There are few 4WD options in the EV market, and for this of us who want/need the security of 4WD, the iPace is definitely a great car. For me, its the nicest EV on the market, the only downside is the lack of a SuperCharger type network that is reliable and available.
I really love the designs of Kia and Hyundai at the moment. The Korean car industry has really matured and it's great to see them being competitive with their electric offerings.
I'm glad you mentioned the headlights/halogen bulbs Jonny, it seems like a real missed opportunity for a lot of manufacturers to push for LED lighting across their EV range, and maybe persuade other manufacturers to do similar across their regular fuel ranges too. Still baffles me that you could buy a Passat 10+ years ago which had LED brake lights as standard, and yet many brand new cars (even some expensive ones from BMW) still use regular bulbs.
I grit my teeth every time I click on a car review, prepared as ever to attempt separation of useful information from its brash packaging. This video was a pleasure to watch. Your delivery is first class. Informative without a hint of self-promotion. Thanks very much, I've subscribed.
Sthilboy56 With fewer moving parts to wear out and the annual savings in electricity over gasoline (petrol) one might consider an EV as a longer term investment. I think the cost (fuel and repairs/maintenance) of owning a £20k ICE vehicle over 8-10 years would be higher than the £33k KIA EV. Plus the savings in reduced guilt from having zero toxic tailpipe emissions as you drive along. Worth considering.
I drove one of these Niro EVs yesterday for about an hour and the lasting impression is one of quality, comfort, smoothness and silence. I have driven the Leaf, Zoe and Ionic and can honestly say that the Niro is better than them all, by a significant margin. Good size vehicle - not at all small and mean; quality cabin with driver controls and technology; a real pleasure to drive. I have driven many luxury cars in my life and the Niro EV beats them all, without a shadow of doubt. I drove the top of the range big battery car, it costs 46,000€ here in France minus 6000€ gov. grant minus 2500 scrappage diesel car scheme so would cost me net approx 37,000€ or roughly £32,000. Need to do my sums..............................
As always I enjoyd this video. Great sound, great pictures, and Johnny has such a nice voice. I do wonder why you can´t get it with LED headlights in the Uk though. I drive the PHEV Niro myself, and its a great car for both short and long trips. The biggest issue, will probaly be if they can deliver enough cars.
Great review! But why do you use LED backlights but not in the front? That seems just a bit silly. Keep up the good work though! I really enjoy the show!
Matthew Mason it’s actually perfect for family if you don’t want suv or van and you live in US were you don’t have a lot of caravans. And it’s electric.
@@matthewmason8982 As much as I would love to run around in a Porsche 911 Carrera S4 it's not affordable and certainly not practical. Just blissfully selfish and satisfying.
No they are not because now we have a shortage in battery cells and now the battery manufacturers can dictate the price....manufacturers aren't really keen on selling EVs anyway. If you look in which states they sell those cars in the US ( forced by law ) you see what i mean.
@@dot7107 If some US states didn't have the ZEV program running they would be selling even more ICEs because they aren't required to sell EVs. And yes....gas is too cheap.
@@Enforcer_WJDE several years back, I read an article which talked about the subsidies the US gov't gives to petroleum producers. One statistic stuck in my head: if paying for the environmental impact of burning gasoline was added to the price, the true price of a gallon of gas would increase by almost $4.00. Something else to consider is that as we shift away from ICE to EV, we need to set up different funding mechanisms to maintain roads. The gas tax is insufficient already, and it's going to get worse.
@@Dirtyboxer1 Maintenance is a problem governments have to face one day. I live in Germany. Not even half the vehicle and fuel taxes are used for road maintenance and EVs are exempt from taxes for a 10 years which i find unfair because they also use up the road. I would have it that every citizen has to pay a road tax because everyone uses the roads.
Kia has a notorious habit of changing specs from country to country for what is supposed to be a "World Vehicle". Unfortunately, the UK is being short changed in several areas, ie Halogen Headlights (North America has Quad LED's), lack of heated rear seats, and the omission of an electrical outlet in the back seat (I believe they call it a Schuko or something like that in Europe). Obviously, they've done what they had to do to keep the price below $33 thousand pounds AND they probably had increased costs of this model to redesign and equip it for Right Hand Drive. One would think that by the 2020's, the world could standardize of more things such as Left Hand Drive for the UK and the Metric System for United States but everyone is too stubborn and stuck in their old ways. 69% of the World's Countries drive on the Right Hand Side of the road, including most of Europe, China, Russia, Japan, all of North America and virtually all of South America, as well as the majority of Africa and the Middle East, leaving 31% of countries (but a much lower percentage of vehicles) to drive on the left. Virtually all of the Right Hand Drive vehicles are manufactured for former British Colonies. Fortunately, Canada sided with their American neighbours and they drive on the "correct/right" side of the road.
@SDD525 do they share the same chassis? Or what do you base those numbers on? Phev's and EV's are for some reason very differently build at the back bumper area, therefore only the Tesla x and Renault Kangoo ze (that I know of) are approved for towing. The Riviera will be awesome when it goes into production, but I don't need that kind of towing capacity. 1,5/2 tons is more than adequate for my needs and I would guess also most people in the EU.
I love Jonny’s way of testing/presenting cars! Calm and informative - it really makes for a good watch. Thank you guys for the work you put into these videos! Keep them coming! 👍💪😉
i know you misspoke. but please promise never to say amp-hour again. it reminds me how dishonest bmw is, telling their customers the i3 has 60Ah instead of 22kWh which it is. sounds more but Ah is meaningless. can't even convert it to a unit of energy eg kWh without specifying voltage.
Good luck actually buying. The Hyundai Kona sister car is on months and months of backorder. I'm not Tesla fanboy, but Tesla's vertically integrated battery factory is going to be a difference-maker between Tesla and the rest of the industry. Kia/Hyundai have built a nice car, but they will never be able to deliver enough batteries to sell more than a handful of them.
SK Group just invested 1.67 Bil into a battery production. Hopefully they will be helping Hyuandai Group ramp up production. Most notably SK Hynix is a legend at gigantic scale of NAND & DDR production. Cells should be easier for them.
Salil Sawarim no, you missed the point. I was pointing out that someone who complained of errors in the video, himself made an error by mis spelling in his comment. “Matter” has 2 “t” s. There was no criticism by me of the video ( which is excellent). Ok?
@@TheLateBrakeShow No, affordable would be an EV this size, as they all appear to be, the same sort of price as a Focus, the Zoe being the same price range as the Clio, without the crazy battery hire. Affordable is not £30k+ for your average UK household, even on 'payments'.
Why, Why Why can we not have REAR wheel drive. With EV there is no reason why! They all seem to be about to move the fuel filler to the front of the car, An electric motor is no bigger than a 75Lt petrol tank. Hate to say it but ........................Tesla did it! even the model 3.
Excellent episode, informed, well reasoned, gives information on what to look for and some comparison observations, for when I go out and hunt up my EV shortly; just as soon as Australia gets with the program and brings stock here.!!!!! More of these types of episode please.
Amazing car for the price, on a slightly different note was thinking, would good to see a episode were they review a electric car after a 100,000 miles to see what typical maintenance was required compared to a petrol or diesel car and what the savings are!
Torsion Bar i.e. as in Peugeot 205, 405, 306 is independent what you mean is Torsion Beam ie in earliar generations of Golf and Austin Maestro etc etc is not independent. However this multilink with coil springs.
You heard about Australian release and pricing? I love my Ford Econetic becaise of how fuel efficient it is but this or the Kona could very well end up replacing it
Loved the show, but just an FYI. You can have independent suspension using torsion bars as springs. Toyota did this on some of their vehicles for years.
I think you mean torsion beam, not torsion bar. Think Nissan LEAF rear suspension (torsion beam non independent rear suspension) versus VW beetle (torsion bar independent rear suspension).
Just like my mates Porsche 944 he raced at Snetterton all those years ago for 5th gear. I guess Johnny is jet lagged and just forgot, know that feeling travelling for work.
I tested it out last Friday on eCar Expo in Gothenburg. Really a grate experience. I drove it right after i tested the BMW i3 an I would say it felt quite similar. Maybe the BMW was a bit more quiet. I only had it for 10 minutes but this is my favorit "affordable" EV this far. The Kona is a little bit too small and the e-nero is on the borderline to fit our family comfortably. Im changing from my VW Golf to an EV in 2020 so it will be interesting to see what else is out on the market by then. I really enjoy your show and I am considering supporting you as a Patreon.
Now if we could just find a way for (millions of) people who don't own a house (who park on the street, or in a lot) to actually be able to charge them (that isn't a ripoff or often broken), that would help sell a lot more! Literally no tax discount is big enough to persuade me, if I can't charge it, I can't buy it!
However, when you have a Battery as large, or larger than these 60kW's, the frequency with which most people will need to recharge them is reduced enough to make them viable for someone without home charging. So my 24 kW Leaf needs a recharge every night for my commute, but if it had a 60kW or 90kW (!) Battery, as in the i-pace, then it wouldn't need a recharge every day, so could 'Survive' on Rapid chargers ( or destination/work charging, instead )
I would love an EV that looks like the future instead of the same as the obsolete internal combustion engine cars. When is an EV as futuristic as the Citroen DS and CX were in their day going to arrive?
Jonny, as we start to see these EV SUV's trickle out, it would be nice to know the towing capabilities, if any. I am still holding onto my truck just for towing and moving large items. Major waste, if I could pull a small utility trailer behind an EV SUV I would let my truck go. Just a thought.
Feels like only a few more year until the price point of the EV falls under the magical range of 20k where suddenly the maths of fuels savings compared to car price start to make sense for most of us boring drivers that just need a car to transport us from A to B. Cant wait to ditch my Renault Clio for a EV in a couple years.
If you Google images of the eNiro all the images show a different headlight setup. This one Johnny was driving may have been a pre-production non LED version. Hopefully it does have LED headlights in the production model.
One annoying missing feature is phone app and connectivity. That means no remote control to pre cool or pre heat, no remote charge control... Now that is such a shame.
My Renault Zoe have 400 km NEDC range and 300 km real range. I never afraid of running out of electricity. I already drove from Germany to France and to Milan in Italy über the alps mountains. No problem at all...
The total package of this car will make it very desirable in the family small SUV market. The rear space is where it delivers together with the generous range. Also, these cars in traffic are very economical as they are not using gas with dead miles and don't have the stop-start annoyance.
The only issue with those legacy manufacturers is that they are awful at software and it's not going to get updated/improved. When if you spend a bit more and get a Tesla, your car will be better 2-5 years after you bought it than the day you go it out the store.
There will be a limit to that. You only have to look at how phones lose support after a while because it's costly and they don't have the performance that the new features need.
In exchange for Tesla monitoring everything you do, being able to turn off your car if you fix it yourself, disable charging and generally nanny you even worse than Apple do. Not everyone wants that - they want to actually own their stuff, not be tracked everywhere, and generally be left alone after purchase. That's certainly what I want, so there is no way I'm buying a Tesla (except a dead one to use the batteries out of for some other project). Choose your poison carefully :-)
An old fashioned bulb for my car would have cost 15 Francs in Switzerland. I ended up being charged over 600 CHF (£470) for one headlamp bulb (that was the correct dealer price). Old fashioned bulbs are wonderful.
Great work Johnny, another great review. When I look at the £32k is not “affordable” comments, I think we have to be objective, compared with other full EVs with a similar range, Tesla / jag, this less than half the price! The model 3 is called affordable and that is not going to be cheaper than 40k!
Comparing it with other cars that I can't afford does not make it affordable. £32k is 1/3 more than I would ever pay for a car and near 2x what my current diesel car cost. I can buy a hell of a lot of diesel for £16k !
I have owned the Hybrid for nearly a year, I love it. It will be a long time before I could use the all electric where I live in Western Canada as the infrastructure is way behind Europe.
I think those headlights were halogen because they create a little heat and that in turn will melt of ice and snow in colder climates. LED"s wont do that. Very thought full actually. Nice car. I like it.
Let me see if I’m getting this right. It does about 300 miles on a charge real world driving. That’s about 21 kWh/100 miles, MPG equivalent 160mpg. (64kWh battery) if 16p per kWh, roughly £10 to charge at home, about 3p per mile.
now just imagine the extra storage space if manufacturers weren't obsessed with having the drive control on the centre console. Why a simple switch you use once or twice per drive needs to have its dedicated space in the centre usually with a big shift lever is beyond me. Look to the Prius and it's simple toggle joystick on the dash or the Dodge Ram with the knob selector. With all that room why not something useful in the centre console like a dedicated phone holder that props the screen up to drivers view, or an extra 2 cup holders, sunglasses holder, etc.
We would like to buy one when they arrive in Australia. However I just can't understand why it has old incandescent bulbs throughout. And no 12v power point in the boot and no usb chargers for back seats is crazy.
I'd take the Kona EV over this, but I'm very impressed with both of them. Hyundai-Kia is really begging the question of what's taking Japanese, German, and American carmakers so long to make compelling all-electric vehicles, which is awesome.
I love this show... But as a photographer and camera op... Why do you guys constantly focus on the the background not on the the presenter... Just switch on focus peaking guys...
Why is everyone only making stupid fake suv things, I’m never going to buy any of these electric cars if no one makes a good actual bloody car. The new Tesla roadster is perfect but much too expensive. Wish someone would make a more modest model along those lines, a compact, low down 2+2 cabrio.
I wonder if we'll even see ANY of these cars in Australia. Leaving aside my previous range related comments, availability of EV's in Australia is atrocious. I think there are currently all of 6 models available? Most with considerable difficulty. 5 years ago it was... 2. And that's with Teslas having been available here, so you can make a pretty good guess what those were... Personally I'd like to see what the production version of the VW ID looks like, and how it holds up as a real vehicle. Sure the concept car does in fact work, unlike a lot of concepts, but it's still got a few elements that are... Improbable on a production car...
and you could buy a renault zoe for £3,000 - 5,000 and strip all the wiring and motors, batteries out and have a Morris Minor EV for a fraction of the price of the Kia...
Fully Charged is the most important and forward thinking motoring show. Bar None.
I will certainly second that , that’s for sure !
One of the most important ones. Please give credit to the others.
Certainly one of the most enjoyable shows on TH-cam.
For electric cars yeah no competition...Koenigsegg cars are revolutionizing hybrid petrol car technology ..dinosaur age of petrol will have a new life in the future too
*Nice car.* Kia hit the Jackpot with this car.
They can use the same factory to produce a hybrid and an electric version of this car.
We will all benefit from cleaner air that those cars save us to breathe.
epSos.de not unless we stop airplanes, old shipping freights/boats, sending out rockets to space etc etc.
@@_TrueDesire_ thats a bit of a logical fallacy. Obviously every less car that pollutes NOx and SOx and CO2 the better the air is. Its not an all or nothing situation
@@ryanbellyt but there's a witch hunt on the working class people buying bog standard cheaper fossil cars, there is no whip against the other transport vehicles.
Because they only drive on solar energy huh.. Cough....
Black coal energy plants produce the energy for these too so no cleaner air for you
@@hoepsipoepsi coal power plants are far more efficient than internal combustion and produce far less NOx and SOx. Further more they produce this outside of densely populated areas
Your reviews are amazingly calm and informative. Thanks for making them.
Marios Pentelas you said exactly what i wanted to say.
I sure hope so because I laid my money down and I was informed that I am very close to the final bottom line but kia is still keeping the msrp a secret until April so I am patiently waiting for my new car and I am ready!
Small correction: Niro EV/e-Niro is Kia's third EV. The first one was Rey and second was Soul.
Bjørn is always there to correct 😂
He didn't say first EV though he said first long range ev :P
Also worth noting that they have just announced that there was a mistake made on their official WLTP range figures. They have reduced it to 282mi (454 km).
cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/electric-kia-e-niros-official-range-reduced-following-test-error/162071
@@jamesx2703 he said it's Kia's second EV.
tbf the Rey was never sold in the UK
Hyundai/ KIA now have affordable and compelling electric vehicles. 😎😉
This is your niche Johnny, looking forward to the next one.
By far the best car review i ever saw!!
First of all NO irritating music.
Calm informed way of presenting, pleasant voice, filmed in such a way you get a good impression.
Bravo!
Wow Johnny your reviews are so in depth. I really appreciate the research you do before getting behind the wheel. I've learned a lot today watching this, and as a current KIA owner would consider buying the e-Niro in the future.
The kona and this car are going to be better than the leaf
If can buy one mate! 2k per year is a compliance vehicle ps I've owned five kias and love the brand but kia isn't serious about bevs. Cheers
@@FancyaBevMate Hyundai managed to get more batteries and are doubling production - but only to around 5,000 a month :(
@@Chilukar all the big manufacturers need to pull the gun and start building their own battery factories.
@@DavidKnowles0 pull the trigger... Yes indeed
@@FancyaBevMate Australian perspective, Nissan Australia imported under 600 superseded 24 kWh Leafs. Only allowed 12 dealers in the whole country to sell them. Installed no public chargers, not even slow chargers. Didn't advertise it. (A friend got a sales job with them and after a week of product training at head office had never heard of the Leaf) Supplied a charge cord that didn't fit a household socket and then had the cheek to charge double what they sold it for in every other market. Now they're needing new batteries, and people are being charged 38000 (about 15000 pounds) for a replacement.
Fully Charged = E-TopGear
Great show , very well done. & highly entertaining
I'm a multiple new car dealership owner . racer &
all around auto enthusiast.
Who's owned & drove and sold many high performance & exotic cars that have HUGE carbon footprints.
But i absolutely love this show , the presenter &
The production of FullyCharged all around.
I'm currently designing
a. Fully Electric. Solor powerd motorhome
at the moment.
Think about traveling
across Continents
comfortably In your
Zero emissions home on wheels & not having to depend on fossil fuels
or an internal combustion engine .
I absolutely love the sound
the torque. and the feeling etc. of an I.C.Engine !
But i love mother earth
even more .
And want my children & grandchildren to enjoy it's
spender also .
Thanks Fully Charged !
So lower your footprint! Start selling elec cars!
If u really love mother earth u wouldnt have any kids. We already hv 7.5 billion ppl on the planet... most scientists agree 2 billion is the carrying cap of humans... with respect to all other sentient beings. We are way over carrying capacity.... besides latest ipcc report says we only hv 10 yrs to stop runaway climate chaos!! Meaning if we dont All change our lifestyles your kids are fkd! I already decided Not to hv kids.
Just sold a Prius .
If that counts ?
@@frankfitzpatrick5300 good job... it all counts. Regardless of the past... we all need to work together to change the future. For example... one simple thing we can all do. If everyone planted just 10 trees. Imagine 7.5billion x10 trees could quickly reduce co2 in the air. Trees give shade, sequester carbon, give oxygen, prevents erosion, filters water, gives fruit, and in a group create a microclimate which produces rain!!
@@frankfitzpatrick5300 obviously we need to reduce our impact as much as possible... like reducing our consumption. Just buying less crap overall reduces manufacturing and use of fossil fuels. Its a whole system youtube.. the story of stuff...
Thanks, always nice to see your videos...
Great channel with *great content!*
i can't wait for the e-Nero to come to Canada even though i wont be buying one any time soon as im only 15 but i am currently saving up for a used 2012 Nissan leaf or 2014 spark ev
I endorse your passion. don't let anything stop you from saving. Good EV driving. + You will be able to make some money selling electric back to the grid in Canada at peak demand (Soooon)
i recently got my first taste of ev driving its a Chinese Honda e grom electric motorcycle it only get 20 km of range but getting it was what really got me into ev's
@@JonasOnAutos It pretty much every rider that rides a electric bike falls in love with them. Which surprise me because I always thought of motorcyclists being the most into then noise size of things.
what a great outlook you have !!!!!!!!!!!! well done
the big push for me to get into ev's was the fact i was going to be paying 300 dollars a month just to have insurance (as a new driver )not including gas so the idea of not only spending $300 a month just for the right to drive a car but also spending a $1.40 a liter on gas seemed insane. i was able to work out that if i got a ford focus ev or first gen chevy volt sure i would be spending upwards of $6000 to $9000 on a car but the lack of maintenance and the fact i wont be paying insane gas prices allows it to even out and when i pass the 3 year mark the car will have paid for itself and will start technically making me money as i wont have taken a big hit on depreciation.
Nice to see more smaller cars like this,, more people on average incomes might be able to get EV's soon
It's couple grand cheaper than the Tesla model 3 !
It's a cool car but i think it's expensive compared to the competitors
@@Mazen_2016 What competitors? Who else has 64 kWh batteries in cross-overs?
It's still £36,000. That's almost Model 3 price, which is from an arguably premium brand. Way too expensive for a Kia.
Small car?
@@theta2170 What price do you think a similarly specced Model 3 will be in the UK...?
I can see this and the Kona overtaking the new Leaf very quickly. They both are really game-changing cars, and unless constricted by some other factor, I would not look at a Leaf having seen these two.
You will have to compare those to the next Leaf refresh to really say but they dont target the same population, the leaf looks so much better for example.
There will be a significant waitinglist on the eNiro, Kona Electric and probably the new Soul Electric. The Leaf wins in availability and slightly more storage than the Kona. I would also think Nissan is a bit ahead in autonomous systems, see the old video from Fully Charged on how aware it was of its surroundings, but we have yet to see if Nissan will use this advantage in their next Leaf e-plus model.
It couldn’t overtake the Nissan Leaf because they’re not planning on making anywhere near the amount required to meet demand.
I agree that the Kona and Niro are potentially game changers, but the key issue here is availability. Sadly there is a very long waiting time for the Kona and I suspect the same will apply for the Niro. The Kona is a little smaller than I would have preferred and the Niro looks a better size, but the Kona is an excellent drive and I think the Ioniq, the Kona and Niro leave the leaf in the dust on the really important aspects of drive train efficiency and battery management. On a motorway speed run in cold weather I managed 4.1 miles/KWH and on local driving I get between 5 and 5.6 miles/KWH in the Kona.
davidarf and also the are refusing to bring the Niro to Australia, and either cancelled or postponed the launch of the Kona Ev in Australia. Very sad, very disappointing.
Love how johnny disassembles the niro and climbs under it, great presenter, great show.
It's good that all manufacturers are not targeting the same market. The Koreans are doing functional (if a little bland) mid price EV's with good equipment and range. Audi have a really well specc'd SUV. Jaguar have a AWD hot hatch (It's really not an SUV...) in the I-Pace for people who want performance. People who buy ttaditional SUV's and fast cars don't care too much about efficiency and I don't think they are going to start now just because the propulsion system has changed. I have personally placed an order for an I-Pace because for me to leave turbo'd cars, I need an EV that excities me, and the Jag does that in spades. There is a market for all kinds of different EV's. Let's enjoy them, whatever you choose!
While the iPace may not be what everyone thinks of as an SUV, it is at least 4WD. There are few 4WD options in the EV market, and for this of us who want/need the security of 4WD, the iPace is definitely a great car. For me, its the nicest EV on the market, the only downside is the lack of a SuperCharger type network that is reliable and available.
e niro will be my first brand new car i will bought! german 27 years . Greets from Berlin!
I really love the designs of Kia and Hyundai at the moment. The Korean car industry has really matured and it's great to see them being competitive with their electric offerings.
Robert De Niro called, he wants his surname back.
I'm glad you mentioned the headlights/halogen bulbs Jonny, it seems like a real missed opportunity for a lot of manufacturers to push for LED lighting across their EV range, and maybe persuade other manufacturers to do similar across their regular fuel ranges too. Still baffles me that you could buy a Passat 10+ years ago which had LED brake lights as standard, and yet many brand new cars (even some expensive ones from BMW) still use regular bulbs.
Chris West major disappointment, halogen sucks big time. I currently drive a 2012 Chevy Volt and love it, except for those crappy halogen lights.
looks like the ex premium has LED headlights. www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-kia-niro-ev-pictures/9/
I grit my teeth every time I click on a car review, prepared as ever to attempt separation of useful information from its brash packaging.
This video was a pleasure to watch. Your delivery is first class. Informative without a hint of self-promotion. Thanks very much, I've subscribed.
Nice car very impressed but £ 33000 is no way an affordable car for most people
Sthilboy56 With fewer moving parts to wear out and the annual savings in electricity over gasoline (petrol) one might consider an EV as a longer term investment. I think the cost (fuel and repairs/maintenance) of owning a £20k ICE vehicle over 8-10 years would be higher than the £33k KIA EV. Plus the savings in reduced guilt from having zero toxic tailpipe emissions as you drive along. Worth considering.
Amp-hour? You mean kWh?
zapfanzapfan I made a mistake - yes KwH. Sorry!
@MichaelKingsfordGray judging by your name you went to Eton. We weren't all so lucky.
MichaelKingsfordGray - tedious NERD!!!!.........zzzzzzzzz.....
@MichaelKingsfordGray Go and have a cup of tea and a little lie down.
@CARPERVERT That's ok, we all make mistakes. Looks like a nice competent car. Any info on tow hitch and trailer weight?
I drove one of these Niro EVs yesterday for about an hour and the lasting impression is one of quality, comfort, smoothness and silence. I have driven the Leaf, Zoe and Ionic and can honestly say that the Niro is better than them all, by a significant margin. Good size vehicle - not at all small and mean; quality cabin with driver controls and technology; a real pleasure to drive.
I have driven many luxury cars in my life and the Niro EV beats them all, without a shadow of doubt. I drove the top of the range big battery car, it costs 46,000€ here in France minus 6000€ gov. grant minus 2500 scrappage diesel car scheme so would cost me net approx 37,000€ or roughly £32,000. Need to do my sums..............................
I bought a Model 3 waiting on this car. I’ve been driving Kia’s for 12 years now and I’ve loved them. I hope this car is really successful.
Are you going to switch to the kia?
I also bought mine! 4 months ago! It’s a delicious car to drive! And it’s interior minimalist design is so functional! It’s all on the screen!
As always I enjoyd this video. Great sound, great pictures, and Johnny has such a nice voice. I do wonder why you can´t get it with LED headlights in the Uk though. I drive the PHEV Niro myself, and its a great car for both short and long trips. The biggest issue, will probaly be if they can deliver enough cars.
Great review! But why do you use LED backlights but not in the front? That seems just a bit silly. Keep up the good work though! I really enjoy the show!
The Kia eNiro looks kind of mommie pick up the kids, family. The Hyundai Kona is more sporty let's go camping for the weekend.
Yet they’re both the same crossover rubbish. The power of marketing.
Matthew Mason it’s actually perfect for family if you don’t want suv or van and you live in US were you don’t have a lot of caravans. And it’s electric.
@@matthewmason8982 As much as I would love to run around in a Porsche 911 Carrera S4 it's not affordable and certainly not practical. Just blissfully selfish and satisfying.
Anti Petrolhead What? You appear to have made up a point to argue about. I’d never suggest a 911 instead of crossover 🤨
@@matthewmason8982 I know. Your good. I was just feeling Porsche at that moment when Johnnie said little car.
The good news is that price of EV starts to drop and more people can afford it
No they are not because now we have a shortage in battery cells and now the battery manufacturers can dictate the price....manufacturers aren't really keen on selling EVs anyway. If you look in which states they sell those cars in the US ( forced by law ) you see what i mean.
@@Enforcer_WJDE they sell lot of ice cars in usa becauce that cheap gazoline...
@@dot7107 If some US states didn't have the ZEV program running they would be selling even more ICEs because they aren't required to sell EVs. And yes....gas is too cheap.
@@Enforcer_WJDE several years back, I read an article which talked about the subsidies the US gov't gives to petroleum producers. One statistic stuck in my head: if paying for the environmental impact of burning gasoline was added to the price, the true price of a gallon of gas would increase by almost $4.00.
Something else to consider is that as we shift away from ICE to EV, we need to set up different funding mechanisms to maintain roads. The gas tax is insufficient already, and it's going to get worse.
@@Dirtyboxer1 Maintenance is a problem governments have to face one day.
I live in Germany. Not even half the vehicle and fuel taxes are used for road maintenance and EVs are exempt from taxes for a 10 years which i find unfair because they also use up the road. I would have it that every citizen has to pay a road tax because everyone uses the roads.
Kia has a notorious habit of changing specs from country to country for what is supposed to be a "World Vehicle". Unfortunately, the UK is being short changed in several areas, ie Halogen Headlights (North America has Quad LED's), lack of heated rear seats, and the omission of an electrical outlet in the back seat (I believe they call it a Schuko or something like that in Europe). Obviously, they've done what they had to do to keep the price below $33 thousand pounds AND they probably had increased costs of this model to redesign and equip it for Right Hand Drive.
One would think that by the 2020's, the world could standardize of more things such as Left Hand Drive for the UK and the Metric System for United States but everyone is too stubborn and stuck in their old ways. 69% of the World's Countries drive on the Right Hand Side of the road, including most of Europe, China, Russia, Japan, all of North America and virtually all of South America, as well as the majority of Africa and the Middle East, leaving 31% of countries (but a much lower percentage of vehicles) to drive on the left. Virtually all of the Right Hand Drive vehicles are manufactured for former British Colonies. Fortunately, Canada sided with their American neighbours and they drive on the "correct/right" side of the road.
Great report Jonny and some nice camera work to boot.
7:48 the most heavily armed place in the world - because of the US troops massed along the border. South Korea is captured US territory.
Real question is, can it tow? That's my biggest complain about almost every other ev..
@SDD525 do they share the same chassis? Or what do you base those numbers on? Phev's and EV's are for some reason very differently build at the back bumper area, therefore only the Tesla x and Renault Kangoo ze (that I know of) are approved for towing. The Riviera will be awesome when it goes into production, but I don't need that kind of towing capacity. 1,5/2 tons is more than adequate for my needs and I would guess also most people in the EU.
Something I’m also looking for. Having a house, I just need to tow a small trailer once in a while. 500 lbs at the very most, and rarely that much.
I love Jonny’s way of testing/presenting cars! Calm and informative - it really makes for a good watch. Thank you guys for the work you put into these videos! Keep them coming! 👍💪😉
i know you misspoke. but please promise never to say amp-hour again. it reminds me how dishonest bmw is, telling their customers the i3 has 60Ah instead of 22kWh which it is. sounds more but Ah is meaningless. can't even convert it to a unit of energy eg kWh without specifying voltage.
Hi Jonny Smith, thanks for your video. I'm maiting for my e-Niro order in december 18. Reception for june in my country France.
Looks like another great car you can't actually buy !
On sale in UK from April. Though it's the starting price of over £36,000 that worries me. That's still pretty unaffordable.
Good luck actually buying. The Hyundai Kona sister car is on months and months of backorder. I'm not Tesla fanboy, but Tesla's vertically integrated battery factory is going to be a difference-maker between Tesla and the rest of the industry. Kia/Hyundai have built a nice car, but they will never be able to deliver enough batteries to sell more than a handful of them.
We don't actually know that yet.
SK Group just invested 1.67 Bil into a battery production. Hopefully they will be helping Hyuandai Group ramp up production. Most notably SK Hynix is a legend at gigantic scale of NAND & DDR production. Cells should be easier for them.
@@alliejr don't they get their batteries from LG? Can't that company simply ramp up?
WHY car that is 200 kg heavier is quicker from 0 to 60 mph than KONA
Great show as always, no mater the small errors. Still the best of the best!
No MATTER the small errors? Nice irony.
@@jdavison8551 make your own if this is not good enough...
Salil Sawarim no, you missed the point. I was pointing out that someone who complained of errors in the video, himself made an error by mis spelling in his comment.
“Matter” has 2 “t” s.
There was no criticism by me of the video ( which is excellent). Ok?
@J Davison Does that make it a double irony, with two critical people both making their own mistakes :-)
@@jdavison8551 why do you even bother with fools on the internet to explain simple stuff to them?
1.8 tonnes is going to be kind of hard on tyres
£32,900
Affordable ?
UKHeliBob Yes. On payments (like how most people ‘buy’ cars now)
Like private flying now, in future only the rich will be able to afford to drive.....the plebs have no need of personal transport
Coal fired paradise
You have that backward.
Only the wealthy will be able to afford to run ICE vehicles. EVs are what the rest of us will use.
@@nicomarino96 Show me the Model 3 you can order today at that price!
@@TheLateBrakeShow No, affordable would be an EV this size, as they all appear to be, the same sort of price as a Focus, the Zoe being the same price range as the Clio, without the crazy battery hire. Affordable is not £30k+ for your average UK household, even on 'payments'.
e-Niro looks better, I like evs that look like normal cars. No funky futuristic im-ev screaming for me!
Great review. Lifting the engine cover was a good laugh.
Isaac Blomfield And invalidated the warranty?
Lifts plastic engine cover to reveal... another engine cover.
@@Reason077
With a Hyundai label, so proved a point and worth doing?
I think they might have added LED lights after this. The version that is up for preorder in Norway has it!
Can you have a Towbar on it ?
Why, Why Why can we not have REAR wheel drive. With EV there is no reason why! They all seem to be about to move the fuel filler to the front of the car, An electric motor is no bigger than a 75Lt petrol tank. Hate to say it but ........................Tesla did it! even the model 3.
Similar price to Prius plugin. Which would I get - The niro.
r998 i rather get the Kona, its €4000 cheaper than Niro (both top spec).
Sounds well researched.
Why would anyone want the Prius plug in when it only gets 25ev miles of driving, that Kia is definitely a good buy
Excellent, review, Nice low key , no muzak or heavy metal background crap.....Thank you.. team. Merry Christmas.
Who makes the battery pack for Kia/Hyundai? Also, non LED lights are unacceptable.
It was LG chem, but I think they now have a second supplier too when LG Chem couldn't supply enough cells fast enough.
Actually, halogen lights are safer in rain & fog, because they produce less glare.
@SDD525 1995 of that is just because they are new and still consider a premium feature.
@Michael Ball: How do halogens produce less glare? Couldn't you do the same by tweaking the colour/brightness/beam shape of LED lights?
I don’t know about the UK, in NL however the top spec version has LED headlights.
Excellent episode, informed, well reasoned, gives information on what to look for and some comparison observations, for when I go out and hunt up my EV shortly; just as soon as Australia gets with the program and brings stock here.!!!!!
More of these types of episode please.
Consider it done! :)
I think confusing amp-hour with kWh in an EV promoting show is... a sin really. There should be penalty for Jonny... Any ideas youtube?
Make him write it out 100 times in the comments?
But no copy-pasting :)
Probably jet lag....
Penalty: no head shaving for 3 months 😁
Needs to have a panoramic roof, HUD and LED lights for both exterior and interior at least as an option, because it's a nice overall 'affordable' EV!
Amazing car for the price, on a slightly different note was thinking, would good to see a episode were they review a electric car after a 100,000 miles to see what typical maintenance was required compared to a petrol or diesel car and what the savings are!
That has been done on several websites with Tesla’s that have done over 200k and
I drove two for total of five years. Zero maintenance. Zero gas.
Torsion Bar i.e. as in Peugeot 205, 405, 306 is independent what you mean is Torsion Beam ie in earliar generations of Golf and Austin Maestro etc etc is not independent. However this multilink with coil springs.
Ah, but does it have cooled seats like the Kona? Very important for Australia!
You heard about Australian release and pricing? I love my Ford Econetic becaise of how fuel efficient it is but this or the Kona could very well end up replacing it
Dean Churchman not even close to Oz release. Let's get Ioniq deliveries going, THEN Kona, then Niro...
Yes, just ordered mine with cooled seats. :)
Loved the show, but just an FYI. You can have independent suspension using torsion bars as springs. Toyota did this on some of their vehicles for years.
I think you mean torsion beam, not torsion bar. Think Nissan LEAF rear suspension (torsion beam non independent rear suspension) versus VW beetle (torsion bar independent rear suspension).
Just like my mates Porsche 944 he raced at Snetterton all those years ago for 5th gear. I guess Johnny is jet lagged and just forgot, know that feeling travelling for work.
I tested it out last Friday on eCar Expo in Gothenburg. Really a grate experience. I drove it right after i tested the BMW i3 an I would say it felt quite similar. Maybe the BMW was a bit more quiet. I only had it for 10 minutes but this is my favorit "affordable" EV this far. The Kona is a little bit too small and the e-nero is on the borderline to fit our family comfortably. Im changing from my VW Golf to an EV in 2020 so it will be interesting to see what else is out on the market by then.
I really enjoy your show and I am considering supporting you as a Patreon.
"Even has the word Hyundai written on it" Haha
Now if we could just find a way for (millions of) people who don't own a house (who park on the street, or in a lot) to actually be able to charge them (that isn't a ripoff or often broken), that would help sell a lot more! Literally no tax discount is big enough to persuade me, if I can't charge it, I can't buy it!
However, when you have a Battery as large, or larger than these 60kW's, the frequency with which most people will need to recharge them is reduced enough to make them viable for someone without home charging.
So my 24 kW Leaf needs a recharge every night for my commute, but if it had a 60kW or 90kW (!) Battery, as in the i-pace, then it wouldn't need a recharge every day, so could 'Survive' on Rapid chargers ( or destination/work charging, instead )
isn't it kw/h not ah in case of the niro/kona?
Lorenz Spenger I made a mistake - yes KwH. Sorry!
ONly the stupid BMW using that Amph.
why the heck do they use Amphour Who does that in the beginning Even mor confusing tha Kwh at least we know that. Never ever heard of Amph.
@@nicomarino96 right
@@PierreSimonsson it's not that stupid if you're really into electricity.
Would swop my Ioniq EV for this in a heartbeat.
I would love an EV that looks like the future instead of the same as the obsolete internal combustion engine cars. When is an EV as futuristic as the Citroen DS and CX were in their day going to arrive?
Neil O'Brien Elec CX or DS would be mindblowingly pretty.
An electric Déesse would be fun if it had a hydropneumatic suspension like the old Déesses and had a traditional gauge cluster.
That car/brand HAS arrived: TESLA
Jonny, as we start to see these EV SUV's trickle out, it would be nice to know the towing capabilities, if any. I am still holding onto my truck just for towing and moving large items. Major waste, if I could pull a small utility trailer behind an EV SUV I would let my truck go. Just a thought.
안녕하세요! haha i haven't been back to my country for like 10 years and I always see you guys in Korea.
제발 거기 계세요ㅠㅠ
Feels like only a few more year until the price point of the EV falls under the magical range of 20k where suddenly the maths of fuels savings compared to car price start to make sense for most of us boring drivers that just need a car to transport us from A to B. Cant wait to ditch my Renault Clio for a EV in a couple years.
Those halogen headlights though. Really?!
If you Google images of the eNiro all the images show a different headlight setup. This one Johnny was driving may have been a pre-production non LED version. Hopefully it does have LED headlights in the production model.
One annoying missing feature is phone app and connectivity. That means no remote control to pre cool or pre heat, no remote charge control... Now that is such a shame.
Really? Surely this has to be in the works?
@@fropple not for the UK for the 19 model year. Maybe it will arrive on 2020? Mainland Europe may get it sooner.
500km range... no need to conserve battery by going without a heater like the old leaf days
My Renault Zoe have 400 km NEDC range and 300 km real range.
I never afraid of running out of electricity. I already drove from Germany to France and to Milan in Italy über the alps mountains. No problem at all...
@@eDriver it's over not ueber
The total package of this car will make it very desirable in the family small SUV market. The rear space is where it delivers together with the generous range. Also, these cars in traffic are very economical as they are not using gas with dead miles and don't have the stop-start annoyance.
Can it be fitted with a towbar to pull a caravan? Essential information like this is missing from all your reviews.
it amazing that KIA is ahead off VW...
The only issue with those legacy manufacturers is that they are awful at software and it's not going to get updated/improved. When if you spend a bit more and get a Tesla, your car will be better 2-5 years after you bought it than the day you go it out the store.
There will be a limit to that. You only have to look at how phones lose support after a while because it's costly and they don't have the performance that the new features need.
Noob lade very good point
KIA and Hyundai actually do have a Software Update (via WiFi) button in the infotainment, so there is hope.
The problem is not to spend a "bit more", Tesla costs multiple times more.
In exchange for Tesla monitoring everything you do, being able to turn off your car if you fix it yourself, disable charging and generally nanny you even worse than Apple do. Not everyone wants that - they want to actually own their stuff, not be tracked everywhere, and generally be left alone after purchase. That's certainly what I want, so there is no way I'm buying a Tesla (except a dead one to use the batteries out of for some other project). Choose your poison carefully :-)
An old fashioned bulb for my car would have cost 15 Francs in Switzerland. I ended up being charged over 600 CHF (£470) for one headlamp bulb (that was the correct dealer price). Old fashioned bulbs are wonderful.
Great work Johnny, another great review. When I look at the £32k is not “affordable” comments, I think we have to be objective, compared with other full EVs with a similar range, Tesla / jag, this less than half the price! The model 3 is called affordable and that is not going to be cheaper than 40k!
Comparing it with other cars that I can't afford does not make it affordable. £32k is 1/3 more than I would ever pay for a car and near 2x what my current diesel car cost. I can buy a hell of a lot of diesel for £16k !
I have owned the Hybrid for nearly a year, I love it. It will be a long time before I could use the all electric where I live in Western Canada as the infrastructure is way behind Europe.
So where is the spare tyre if you have a puncture?
Phil Abrahams most modern cars don’t have a spare tyre. They usually come with a gel repair
@@snapperjw Yup you get to release a load of aerosol and chemicals into the tyre... which will escape then it's removed...
this car is a horse not level 5 will be illegal soon
I think those headlights were halogen because they create a little heat and that in turn will melt of ice and snow in colder climates. LED"s wont do that. Very thought full actually. Nice car. I like it.
good point!
You can spec the E-Niro in Sweden with LED, included in the advance+ pack
Maybe Halogen only for right hand drive markets?
Just a small note regarding suspensions - Torsion bar most of the time is an independent suspension.
Thanks for the good show. I hope you guys will do more winter testing on EV;s so one can see how they fair in colder climates
Let me see if I’m getting this right. It does about 300 miles on a charge real world driving. That’s about 21 kWh/100 miles, MPG equivalent 160mpg. (64kWh battery) if 16p per kWh, roughly £10 to charge at home, about 3p per mile.
I’m pretty sure torsion bar suspension can also be independent? Great review otherwise. Thanks.
now just imagine the extra storage space if manufacturers weren't obsessed with having the drive control on the centre console. Why a simple switch you use once or twice per drive needs to have its dedicated space in the centre usually with a big shift lever is beyond me. Look to the Prius and it's simple toggle joystick on the dash or the Dodge Ram with the knob selector. With all that room why not something useful in the centre console like a dedicated phone holder that props the screen up to drivers view, or an extra 2 cup holders, sunglasses holder, etc.
We would like to buy one when they arrive in Australia. However I just can't understand why it has old incandescent bulbs throughout. And no 12v power point in the boot and no usb chargers for back seats is crazy.
Perfect car for Uber drivers.
I just stumbled upon your channel. Great stuff - both presenters are some of the best automotive presenters I have seen recently.
Love your reviews Jonny, so well considered and paced. Thank you.
I'd take the Kona EV over this, but I'm very impressed with both of them. Hyundai-Kia is really begging the question of what's taking Japanese, German, and American carmakers so long to make compelling all-electric vehicles, which is awesome.
these compare well with 1980's Top gear reviews when they actually told you useful stuff about the cars
I love this show... But as a photographer and camera op... Why do you guys constantly focus on the the background not on the the presenter... Just switch on focus peaking guys...
Can either the Niro or the Kona take a tow-hook ? I'd like to take my bike-rack with me ... - And sometimes even a bike ... !
I'll be able to afford a 30k car when hell freezes over. Tipping point? Not for some time to come. Wonder how much they'll cost after Brexit?
Why is everyone only making stupid fake suv things, I’m never going to buy any of these electric cars if no one makes a good actual bloody car. The new Tesla roadster is perfect but much too expensive. Wish someone would make a more modest model along those lines, a compact, low down 2+2 cabrio.
Love the range and efficiency but just can't accept BOTH of their rear ends. Looks pretty awkward IMO.
I wonder if we'll even see ANY of these cars in Australia. Leaving aside my previous range related comments, availability of EV's in Australia is atrocious.
I think there are currently all of 6 models available? Most with considerable difficulty.
5 years ago it was... 2.
And that's with Teslas having been available here, so you can make a pretty good guess what those were...
Personally I'd like to see what the production version of the VW ID looks like, and how it holds up as a real vehicle.
Sure the concept car does in fact work, unlike a lot of concepts, but it's still got a few elements that are... Improbable on a production car...
KuraIthys When I contacted Kia about it, they said “Well certainly not in 2019”, so looks like 2020 at the earliest!
But the BIG QUESTION is......does it have the ultimate tech: a steering that adjusts forward and backwards????? The Nissan LEAF doesn't! 🙈🙈🙈🙈
Hi Jonny. A torsion bar is a type of *spring*. (see Jag E-type unequal A arm front or Porsche trailing arm rear).
He meant torsion BEAM, I suspect he doesn't know the difference between torsion bars and torsion beams.
Kia revised the e-niro range from 301 miles to 282 miles. But EPA range is 239, which is more realistic.
The Morris Minor 1000 has independent Torsion Bar front suspension.
Not sure if they still make them.
Also has proper spare wheel.
and you could buy a renault zoe for £3,000 - 5,000 and strip all the wiring and motors, batteries out and have a Morris Minor EV for a fraction of the price of the Kia...