Hyundai Kona vs Ioniq 5: Which one is right for you?

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2024
  • The Ioniq 5 is one of the best new cars of the year, and one of the best family cars on sale today - electric or otherwise. But it does pose a slightly awkward question: does it render its sibling, the Kona, slightly redundant? Is there still a place for the Kona in an Ioniq world, and if so, where? In this video we compare the two cars and look to understand the unique use case for each.
    Fully Charged LIVE is coming to EUROPE! Join us in Amsterdam next March - get your tickets here
    fullycharged.show/events/full...
    Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to TH-cam Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel:
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Nice & nicer
    1:32 Not direct rivals
    2:03 Ioniq 5 drive
    3:18 Kona drive
    4:25 Kona facelift
    5:16 Spectacular design
    6:06 Power comparisons
    7:54 Superior interiors?
    9:11 Jack's back seat test
    10:38 Cabin fever
    12:44 Big old boot
    13:44 Ow!
    14:37 Ioniq imperfections
    15:58 Concluding thoughts
    Become a PATREON: / fullychargedshow
    Become a TH-cam MEMBER: use JOIN button above
    Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels
    Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/
    Visit our LIVE exhibitions in Europe, USA & AUSTRALIA: FullyCharged.Show/events
    Subscribe for episode alerts & the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/
    Visit: FullyCharged.Show
    Find us on Twitter: / fullychargedshw
    Follow us on Instagram: / fullychargedshow
    #Hyundai #Ioniq5 #Kona #EV
  • วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี

ความคิดเห็น • 877

  • @fullychargedshow
    @fullychargedshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Is there still a place for the Kona in an Ioniq world? Tell us what you think below..

    • @MegaJackpot180
      @MegaJackpot180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      hope so ive just ordered one lol

    • @nomoreheroes93
      @nomoreheroes93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *hnuhh*
      On a serious note though and as an EV/battery engineer the efficiency tells me that the Ioniq 5 isn't a fully optimised product (the first vehicles on a new platform rarely are), and I'd wait for a Gen 2 version.

    • @clivepierce1816
      @clivepierce1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would turn that question on its head. Why would you pay a premium price for the Ioniq 5 when it both cold-gates and rapid-gates (see Bjorn Nyland’s Ioniq 5 1000 km challenge)? What is the point of a vehicle that cannot reliably deliver on long journeys?

    • @Kopchronicles
      @Kopchronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think so I love the Blue thug, and I am so impressed with Hyundai and Kia. And. More to Come there unstoppable

    • @davefroman4700
      @davefroman4700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did anyone want the model T when Ford rolled out the V8 model A?

  • @TheMegaTheseus
    @TheMegaTheseus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My brain says Kona, my heart says ioniq 5 and my bank account says I can't afford neither

    • @MyMateYourMate
      @MyMateYourMate 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With a 2 or 3 year old Kona coming in at about £13k...

  • @victorseal9047
    @victorseal9047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    After two and half years with my Kona in northern Québec's varying climate, I can say unequivocally I love it.

    • @user-ks4zf6dv2u
      @user-ks4zf6dv2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which model year is your car?

    • @bakwalker40
      @bakwalker40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good to know. I'm in northern Ontario, so your comment is relatable to me

    • @crishshah7051
      @crishshah7051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is the Kona EV in the snow? Debating between the fwd Kona and rwd Ioniq 5 SEL since it’s about the same with markups. Want to swing for Ioniq AWD but not sure it’s worth it for extra $3000 + less range

  • @hsavietto
    @hsavietto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    My wife and I bought a Kona EV back in August. We had the opportunity to see the Ioniq 5 at the dealer. My wife didn't like its appearance. I didn't like its price tag.

    • @aprolifix
      @aprolifix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ummmmm ok

    • @xchopp
      @xchopp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good reasons!

    • @IMD_NME
      @IMD_NME 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can assure you… the wife DID like the appearance but needs an excuse for not wanting to spend the extra cash. Same goes for you, but at least you are being honest.

    • @jimradcliff9350
      @jimradcliff9350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      4 mos later +how feel about the kona? It's for my son.. He is mostly solo driver.. But bigger guy. He drives a kia soul now thinking this similar on size? Likely very rare to have a back seat rider... So thinking the number will be much better on kona.. But if closer to the ioniq might be worth little more. They don't even sell these in our state so finding one to actually even seeley alone test drive nearly impossible

    • @hsavietto
      @hsavietto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimradcliff9350 we are loving the car! But it's not very spacious inside, I'm not a big guy and it feels a little "claustrophobic" sometimes.

  • @davidhamishwill367
    @davidhamishwill367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Just bought a (demonstrator) Kona 64kwatt, my second, which tells you what I think of the car. Got to sit in an Ioniq 5 and it does feel more spacious and more classy, but the price difference here (in Italy) is even greater than in the UK, and so it was no contest for me. The Kona has more than enough zip, a really comfortable feel to it, and that brilliant range (I'm told they've squeezed an extra 20 miles out of it through the cunning use of different wheels!). Admittedly it's smaller, but we don't need any more space ourselves. I remain a huge fan, and didn't really see much in this new wave of electric cars to tempt me away.

    • @dannytq
      @dannytq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The range and efficiency of the Kona is ridiculous. Enjoy!

    • @Reddylion
      @Reddylion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice

    • @ianwebsell6097
      @ianwebsell6097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello
      We have ordered a Kona 64kwatt in Pulse Red and cannot wait to get it. Can I ask, how do they drive in the snow, that’s if you have, that is. ?
      We have test driven it and was very impressed with it. Really looking forward to getting it. The range, I’m told and reading is very good. Looking at the miles we do and what we spend on fuel, we shall be saving around £1200 a year, so good news all round.
      Any feed back would be greatly appreciated. Thank you 🙏👍👍

    • @davidhamishwill367
      @davidhamishwill367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ianwebsell6097 I'm sure the car will do you handsomely. I can't say I remember ever driving mine in snow. The earlier Kona was quite liable to wheelspin (though never as bad as some of the reviewers liked to make out), but this later model that I now have doesn't seem quite as likely to, so Hyundai may have done something about that. I did drive our old Nissan Leaf in the snow a couple of times, without much problem. I must admit (reluctantly), that driving in snow might possibly be one of the very rare occasions where an electric car isn't completely superior to an old ICE.
      As for range, comfort, efficiency and zip, you couldn't do better at the price, for my money. Enjoy!

    • @jimradcliff9350
      @jimradcliff9350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar thoughts..
      4 mos later +how feel about the kona? It's for my son.. He is mostly solo driver.. But bigger guy. He drives a kia soul now thinking this similar on size? Likely very rare to have a back seat rider... So thinking the number will be much better on kona.. But if closer to the ioniq might be worth little more. They don't even sell these in our state so finding one to actually even seeley alone test drive nearly impossible

  • @benpaynter
    @benpaynter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I'd take the Kona. The Ioniq is too big and almost 25% more expensive. Kona has great range, looks nice enough and is a great car.

    • @martik778
      @martik778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1k oe 2% difference in Canada, no contest

  • @wnhevenhuis7582
    @wnhevenhuis7582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First fully charged video with a lovely change of pace with a bit of d&b intro music to start off the ambiance. Lovely.

  • @ZeroPageX
    @ZeroPageX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I need to be able to reach for tactile buttons while I'm watching the road. I want these buttons to work 100% of the time. I want door handles that don't rely on electricity. I want the door open function to work 100% of the time. I'd pick Kona any day. If you need more space in the back, the Kia Niro has it.
    I wish car companies wouldn't all copy Tesla's form over function design choices. Why not use EV architecture with intuitive, safer, and more reliable controls? Especially if these companies want to get serious about making EVs mainstream.

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too true!
      Even when your gas struts holding the boot lid open fail you can still use it.
      Try using it when the motor has failed...

    • @johnnzperplexed2741
      @johnnzperplexed2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw an entry level spec ioniq5 the other day and the door handles although flush with door still operated manually. Fancy electric ones maybe an option on pricier models

    • @kiddcisco
      @kiddcisco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will still look forward to my Ioniq 5 red when it arrives:)

  • @tooflesstesla
    @tooflesstesla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Huh!
    Actually, this is a really enjoyable video review for those considering their first EV. Go for it!

  • @Loubiaaa
    @Loubiaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ✋ Kona owner right here. Imho don’t think size different that small between them, quite happy with compact dimensions of our car within urban drive and range on long stretches.
    One key aspect missing in the video, charging curve of Kona, particularly during in winter, does not feel 2022, AT ALL, whereas ioniq 5 has 800V platform.

    • @mzelo
      @mzelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another Kona owner here. The Kona is a bit of a compromise to me but overall I decided it's the best price value vehicle for my needs. Funny that you mention the charging curve during winter - the ioniq 5 does have issues here which need to be resolved. Unless you're driving really fast (180km/h) to preheat the batterypack the ioniq5 only draws like 60kW peak until the very end.

  • @jober112
    @jober112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not many review videos get me to slow clap IRL. Not only did this video cover every question I had coming in, it also caught all of the "yeah but" questions as he was talking. Well done.

  • @kingsleywray6632
    @kingsleywray6632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the comparison. Appreciate you sharing this

  • @julesdupuis1634
    @julesdupuis1634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great info. Keep up the good work.

  • @dixonsindorset
    @dixonsindorset 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting comparison video, thanks. Loving the electro jazz music too.

  • @sreville
    @sreville 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video of 2 great cars, thanks Jack!

  • @accesser
    @accesser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review
    Hope they have more models soon

  • @TimPiggott
    @TimPiggott 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useful review. THANKS jack

  • @daviddenley3512
    @daviddenley3512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll tell you what, your video reviews are becoming the best there is these days so well done you!
    Yes, that ionic is a good looker!

  • @petesplaneta9340
    @petesplaneta9340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great to see a bit of love for the Kona again. Great comparison and useful if you are trying to choose a Hyundai EV.

  • @rickdeckard9810
    @rickdeckard9810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison, thanks!

  • @jennydowding6127
    @jennydowding6127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very much enjoyed the video. Leaning towards the Kona for value and practicality

  • @agustinhurrell3147
    @agustinhurrell3147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review!

  • @squalloogal
    @squalloogal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciated this comparison

  • @louisnoirot2429
    @louisnoirot2429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, thanks

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work 👍

  • @johnlumb1078
    @johnlumb1078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhh I know where you are, picked up many a vehicle from there for various events during my driving career. Loved the video, I am looking at getting a Kona (motability will never have the EV6)

  • @nealwhiteman6299
    @nealwhiteman6299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review

  • @NottsModeller
    @NottsModeller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ordered my kona 64 back in November. Due in 2 weeks now.. can’t wait!

  • @lorrainehinchliffe5371
    @lorrainehinchliffe5371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have the 2021 Kona ev. I had to decide between it and the Ioniq 5 back in the summer when I ordered a new ev.
    At the time the 5 was still an unknown in terms of delivery and price. The Kona was a fully known and I could take immediate delivery.
    Although I am the first to admit the Kona is much nicer looking I’m very happy with the Kona.
    It’s comfortable, very efficient ( average 475 klms per charge, 7.5 klm/kWh) and very easy to park and drive.
    I’m a senior lady who very seldom has anyone else in the car so it has plenty of room for me and my stuff.
    And it’s very zippy 😁

    • @carloscervantes836
      @carloscervantes836 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm on the Kona N and will probably switch it for the ev later on. Two big bummers for me are the horrid turn radius and the reflector LED headlights that aren't that great. I wish it used an LED projector, I could at least upgrade them somewhat easily if they weren't good.

  • @Andrew-zs5tc
    @Andrew-zs5tc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is possibly the best car review/comparison I have found. You did not bash either car or endlessly praise them as others do. You told us the clear differences and the basic facts as few others do. Basically, someone wanting an EV to drive the family and needs the space and wants the refinements get the Ionic 5. If you don't need the space or refinements, basically looking for a basic commute car to work, buy the Kona EV. BUT, if you are looking for a fun-to-drive car, buy something else.
    This is the first time I have found your channel. I am subscribing and hope your other videos are as good.

  • @intrapareto
    @intrapareto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a 2021 Kona and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. It has great range, excellent engineering and tech, and looks decent enough (and let’s face it, it was never intended to turn heads). That said, I’m seriously jonesing for the Ioniq 5, mostly because of its design and the incredible charging speed (infrastructure allowing). But fact is, I’m sticking with my Kona for all the sensible reasons I bought it in the first place. At least for now…

  • @roydavies260
    @roydavies260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting review, thank you

  • @roguebullet4220
    @roguebullet4220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good fair comparison. Kona still holding its own although it's clear to see the benefits of starting on the right platform.

  • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
    @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    HMG do tend to compete against themselves, the product positioning is a challenge. I say that as having owned an e-Niro since March 2019 and had a good look over the Ioniq 5 I still think the Niro is the right size for our needs. I looked at the Kona but the back seat room was cramped and the boot noticeably smaller than the e-Niro. I have had over 6 foot people who tell me the e-Niro has plenty of leg and headroom in the back. More space is always better says Jack, well not if you’re negotiating some of the very narrow roads in European cities. It’s a difficult one but it will be interesting to see how HMG use the EGMP platform in sub Ioniq 5/EV6 sized cars.

  • @barneyomulligan9739
    @barneyomulligan9739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice car coat Jack! Liked the revue as well.

  • @emilyjanesaunders
    @emilyjanesaunders 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, really helpful

  • @IILORIMERII
    @IILORIMERII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @Invisilage
    @Invisilage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always!

  • @OmarKhanUK
    @OmarKhanUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been watching a lot of vids lately on the Ionic 5... and I think i will very much be ordering one!

  • @_BlackSpectrum
    @_BlackSpectrum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video 👌🏻

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    To me these two cars are built to suite different types of customer. The Kona is smaller, cheaper and has a good range. It is a bit like an EV version of the Ford Focus - a decent all-rounder of a car that will get you where you need to be with minimal fuss. The Ioniq is larger and more stylish (possibly more akin to the Ford Mondeo) as it is a large family sized car that will get you there with greater comfort but at a greater cost. I could see someone like me going for the Kona as someone who does fast food deliveries. The lower cost, smaller size (making finding parking spaces easier) while having a decent range makes these good for someone like me, especially as I don't generally have passengers. The Ioniq would probably better suite a family man or a company rep who sometimes has to provide transport to colleagues.

    • @stephanhellmuth8083
      @stephanhellmuth8083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can they drive through puddles?
      Do they have a spare wheel.
      How does it compare to the ec3,( citreon)?

  • @wilkoone9155
    @wilkoone9155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I was buying my 3rd BEV 2 years ago I looked at the Kona, one glance at the lack of space in the rear instantly convinced me to buy a Renault Zoe. I'm now on my 2nd Zoe. Bjorn Nyland's banana box test shows the Zoe has more room inside.

  • @johnvanrens260
    @johnvanrens260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ridiculously good show--don't stop!!

  • @greysonclark4522
    @greysonclark4522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Ionic 5 is very futuristic in appearance, but my being a 73 year old ex sports car racer, I would opt for the Kona with analog gauges, greater range and somewhat less civilized. Still, a very good comparison Jack. Thanks!

  • @Joseph-jy5lz
    @Joseph-jy5lz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. Kona for town driving. Ionique for long distance motorway driving. Keep up the good work

  • @iainmcintyre9900
    @iainmcintyre9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smashed it again Jack (although I thought you might have mentioned 800v)?

  • @ianrobinson6164
    @ianrobinson6164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm loving the 1970's car dealer / Del Boy jacket ,,great stuff

  • @docgspot
    @docgspot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    been waiting 6 months for my kona to turn up. my first ev. Cant wait

  • @karlbloss
    @karlbloss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and thanks for getting into the weeds! Any thoughts on the location of the Ioniq5 charge port? As a Tesla and LEAF owner, sometimes it's a pain to have to back into a charger location.

  • @eltone2009
    @eltone2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 2019 kona and still love it. I did test drive the ionic 5 as well though.... And it's incredible. Would definitely be my next upgrade..... Maybe the ev6....

  • @dariusdareme
    @dariusdareme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're a really good presenter, just might be the next Clarckson.

  • @camalexander8843
    @camalexander8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My exact quandry. A Kona Ultimate right now, or for 20% more, an Ioniq 5, AWD Ultimate, perhaps a year from now. Thanks for the information.

  • @santarosa6676
    @santarosa6676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent and honest. Thanks.

  • @adamlytle2615
    @adamlytle2615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The comparison I'm keen to see is the newly revamped Niro coming next year vs the Ioniq 5 & EV 6. I'm sure the latter two are better, but the question is *how much* better for the difference in price.

    • @adamlytle2615
      @adamlytle2615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Richard Wood I think there's a case to be made for cars this size, in that families really can use the space. But it is disappointing that this segment gets the attention /priority and they haven't made a compact car equivalent.

    • @adamlytle2615
      @adamlytle2615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Richard Wood oh I do for sure wish proper estates/wagons would be the family car type being offered in EV form. No sign of getting anything like that in North America though. That's a whole other topic. (I think Europe has an MG EV estate though?)

    • @danielhyman8390
      @danielhyman8390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kia eNiro has a bigger boot and does 4 miles/kWh very often - let's compare that too!

    • @adamlytle2615
      @adamlytle2615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@danielhyman8390 and apparently the revamped one next year is a bit longer - but I don't know if any of that added length got added to the boot.

    • @davidhamishwill367
      @davidhamishwill367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if Hyundai will come up with a similarly revamped Kona? Anyone know anything?

  • @gene978
    @gene978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You Mr. Jack!

  • @northcountryman
    @northcountryman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have done a great job comparing these two vehicles and it still makes it a tough choice for me based on how inefficient the Ioniq5 is. It's unfair to compare it to a model 3 though given the distinct lack of headroom in the rear seats of the model 3 and yet the model y is considerably more expensive and seems to be less comfortable due to stiff suspension. Decisions, decisions!!

  • @warrenmessenger7338
    @warrenmessenger7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huihh!
    Replaced a much loved 2003 Cooper S with a 2014 i3 REX, whilst main car is 2.4 diesel XC60.
    Neither myself or partner want to drive the Volvo anymore, and so we just ordered Ionic 5 through NHS Salary Sacrifice scheme. We are blown away by electric driving experience and savings.

  • @shaunmckenna1923
    @shaunmckenna1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review thank you , I was looking at the Kona almost bought it until I drove the Ioniq 5 I am now waiting about 6 months for mine I did order the long rang AWD ultimate package , I have a feeling 2022 maybe the last year for the Kona as I just watched a video on the new Ioniq 3 which is is about the same size as the Kona and they are talking May 2022 for its release. As very nice the Kona is I think its starting to be a little dated .

  • @Spakianor
    @Spakianor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where did the nice overlays with imperial/metric values go?
    Anyway, nice video again

  • @scottburgin5148
    @scottburgin5148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review - just taken delivery of a Kona EV. Love it, love it but yes space as not EV by design shows. Still great little car and boy it goes.

  • @patrickrea6574
    @patrickrea6574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting comparison. There is definitely a need for smaller a smaller ev especially for in city use. Personally I own a Niro EV while I wait for my EV6, which I chose over the Kona simply because of more space in the back. I've taken all 4 of us on a 350km road trip in comfort.

  • @douggray169
    @douggray169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video

  • @jimradcliff9350
    @jimradcliff9350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review one of the best I've watched. Exploring options and narrowed down to the two. Sad thing is can't even buy in my state.. That's sad.. So makes it a challenge even if want one!
    That said kona seems even harder to find.. Guess Hyundai pushing the ioniq 5. Not sure where will land or in can even make the numbers work. But I'm hopeful. Thanks for the great enjoyable review.

  • @thanhngo5859
    @thanhngo5859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Canada base model Ioniq 5 is priced very similar to Kona. We get the small battery option in Ioniq 5 but only the large battery in Kona.

  • @danielpowers4787
    @danielpowers4787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @DynamicDuoUK
    @DynamicDuoUK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just purchased the Kona 64KW Long Range Late 2022 Model as shown here, range is very good with what we have seen so for us it's perfect.

  • @alexanderjokkmok396
    @alexanderjokkmok396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice review 👌
    I just love the 4wd Ioniq5 even not testet this time.
    😉

  • @johnnydoherty9192
    @johnnydoherty9192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review - getting the kona would prefer the Ioniq 5 - dont have the quite substantial amount needed. waiting time in May 2022 for the Kona - November !!!

  • @nitithornsuwannasat3423
    @nitithornsuwannasat3423 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Kona electric 2019 version. I like it so much in terms of comfort and eenrgy saving.

  • @nickseemel525
    @nickseemel525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The boot on the Kona in North America has a feature where the floor can be reset (easily. One handed) lowering it 4-5 inches. This feature would probably have solved your demo on the bags transfer. It lowers the floor if the rear seat is up- raise it and you have a nearly flat floor with the rear seat folded down.

  • @williamarmstrong7199
    @williamarmstrong7199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good comparison

  • @Joe-lb8qn
    @Joe-lb8qn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the look of the screens and controls on the H5. Roll on a smaller version (IIRC theres a H3 coming) which presumably will replace the Kona.

  • @charliecarolmichel5389
    @charliecarolmichel5389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With all of your reviews, I think you should also cover DC fast charging maximum rate, and explicitly articulate range, battery size, miles per kilowatt hour.

  • @EugeneLambert
    @EugeneLambert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode. That Ioniq really is a stunner.

  • @samuelprice538
    @samuelprice538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You didn't mention charging speed, probably one of the most important factors. Or bi directional charging /v2l which is super cool.

    • @TaiViinikka
      @TaiViinikka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very important to some people, and totally irrelevant to others!
      Agree it should have been mentioned. Kona EV: 74 kW max DC fast charge vs. Ionic 5 ~220 kW max DC fast charge. Lets keep in mind that most people do 90-99% of their charging much slower (and cheaper!) than a DCFC.

  • @LJ-wo1wf
    @LJ-wo1wf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:00 that's a great demo of different boot sizes. I don't know why I haven't seen anyone else do it before.

  • @TassieEV
    @TassieEV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Jack. I'd love to see you now do the comparison of the two E-GMP platforms of the EV6 and Ioniq 5 please.
    Can you do the dog test please with a big dog like a Newfie or St Bernard or Bernese Mtn dog or similar.

    • @briankavanagh7191
      @briankavanagh7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tassie, having dogs that size I'd get a small transit van 😂

  • @JackieWelles
    @JackieWelles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember I saw Ioniq5 recently in supermarket parking lot 2 weeks ago in Germany. I was walking by and suddenly thought oh wow what’s that! Sharp lines huge hugeeee car and then it hit me…. That’s ioniq5 and looks the same as a concept :O. I’m used to seeing Teslas and I love them but this really grabbed my attention.

  • @Stromschlag
    @Stromschlag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for the nice video! I wish the presenter would use kilometer. It's a real bummer having to do calculations to SI units oneself as those are what 99% of countries worldwide use. At least they should be displayed. Especially miles per kWh is quite hard to understand if one is used to kWh/km oder kWh/100km. Thanks and keep up the great work!

    • @davidvestey6014
      @davidvestey6014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m British but at 48 years old grew up well after Imperial units were replaced with metric, how old do I have to be before the media start using metric??

    • @entropy5431
      @entropy5431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The UK, Australia and USA use miles. It is a British video and he is speaking English so of course he uses miles. Not hard to do the conversion, or go watch a French video.

    • @gabechiplin8140
      @gabechiplin8140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Entropy , sorry to disappoint mate but Oz has been metric for ages.

    • @entropy5431
      @entropy5431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabechiplin8140 Your right, was my assumption and I should have checked. USA and UK so my comment stands.

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidvestey6014 if you live in the UK , forget it .....!!
      Anyhow, what's the big deal - a kilometer is 5/8 of a mile - work it out.... !!

  • @StreakingTiger
    @StreakingTiger ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review comparing the two. I would probably pick the Kona being retired and only my wife and I to transport. Nobody rides in our back seat, so I don't need that extra room of the Ioniq. Different cars for different people IMO. Both seem to be good. However, I worry about dealerships trying to maintain either in my area of the southeast USA. I've heard horror stories of Hyundai dealerships not being able to resolve any issues with these cars. I doubt they have techs trained to do anything for EVs.

  • @greengecko1876
    @greengecko1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting to see your thoughts on the pair Jack. We used our Kona to holiday deep into France late this summer. Returning from South of Geneva, we got home n one hit on the autoroute, c. 800 miles, using IONITY chargers. Each comfort stop was about 25 mins or so.
    I had a P45 Ioniq on order, and test drove an Ioniq 5 (4 x drive). It’s lack of efficiency meant the continental trip would not have worked, b cause you couldn’t have hit the IONITY or any other HPC’s to get back in a day.
    My daughter took the P45 because she could live with the lack of range.
    Efficiency is King.
    PS want a bigger boot? Just take the polystyrene and rubbish out of the Kona and you have something that works far better.

    • @davidhamishwill367
      @davidhamishwill367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I drove my old Kona electric to Italy (Genoa) using Ionity - no problem at all at 75mph.

    • @greengecko1876
      @greengecko1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidhamishwill367 good to hear of your trip as well. What do you drive now?

    • @davidhamishwill367
      @davidhamishwill367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greengecko1876 Another Kona! One part of the trip was especially impressive. We overnighted in Chamonix and then drove down to ours, a drive of just over 200 miles. Now I'll admit that overall it's downhill from the Alps to the sea, and I was taking it easy - 65mph. But the car was heavily laden and I arrived with 100 miles still on the clock. I was seriously impressed.
      I live in Italy now and had to change the car because of Brexit. There was a great opportunity for a demonstrator Kona with only about 1500 miles on the clock and a vast discount compared to new, so I jumped at that. It's supposed to have an extra 20 miles of range thanks to a change of wheels, but apart from some cosmetic stuff (front nose) it isn't vastly different. The dashboard is revamped but I wouldn't call it better. just different! I'd have no hesitation in making the trip to the UK in it. Ionity are only expanding.

    • @greengecko1876
      @greengecko1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidhamishwill367 great to hear. I am always surprised with what you can get in the Kona, after the mods I made removing the polystyrene in the boot. Record is a trip to IKEA, 1 flat pack set of bunk beds, with a 2m x2m set of shelving plus a large easy chair (high backed) with other bits a pieces. Cycles and other luggage, no problem.
      We have a e-Niro as well, which I am am considering changing for a Model Y, but I’m not sure.

    • @davidhamishwill367
      @davidhamishwill367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greengecko1876 It's interesting that you also have the Eniro. So leaving aside the issue of space (which doesn't matter to us) how would you compare it with the Kona in terms of zip, range and comfort/convenience at the wheel?
      TESLA: When I was looking at the Kona the other shortlisted car was a recent secondhand TESLA 3 long range. IN the end it came down to an extra 80 miles of range (real world) for between 10-15,000 euros more - for me it wasn't worth it.

  • @welfiblablabla
    @welfiblablabla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Nothing creaks"
    Touches the dashboard
    "Okay that creaks a little bit" 🤣

  • @AnalogX64
    @AnalogX64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got my Kona EV 2022 Ultimate trim (Canada) and I love it, the only odd thing is, it does not have a 12V accessory plug in the back hatch like my 2012 Tucson.

  • @EcBaPr
    @EcBaPr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it would be nice to see future revisions of the Kona become more native EV and use skateboard architecture and also be a little larger size overall.. also move charging port to side somewhere as it looks like a blemish at the front.. otherwise its very good.. the overall appearance is great and doesnt come across like its trying too hard.. i like that its simple inside with many real buttons rather than try and make everything a tablet interface. screens are great for some stuff but not everything IMO... i also like the center panel with the armrest, drive controls, drink holders etc.. and area underneath for storage is great.. that stuff is legacy design but its effective and doesnt need to change i dont think..

  • @chrismartin2663
    @chrismartin2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    just curious, is the other (original) ioniq EV still a thing or has that been retired now? by all acounts that was also an efficiency expert too albeit with a smaller battery.

  • @funkyfin3023
    @funkyfin3023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review again Jack. Did you tear your jacket on the left elbow getting in and out the rear of the Kona? Send Hyundai the repair bill….
    Maybe quote difference in monthly rates as well as outright cost in future comparisons? More relevant for many punters.

  • @TheSmartOjus
    @TheSmartOjus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really wanted the Ioniq 5 for the longest time, but recently learned about the Kona and Im highly preferring it to the Ioniq. Its mostly due to the fact that this would be my first car purchase so I want it to be more on the affordable side. Ioniq 5 is cool, but the price is a lot. Kona is cheaper and not a lot of electric cars offer the same tech specs as the kona at its price point. I think i will go with the Kona as my first car and EV purchase! :D

    • @djpollo2474
      @djpollo2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn having that car as a first car must be awesome! Hope you get it!

  • @danielroden9424
    @danielroden9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got a 2021 kona ultimate for 42k. very happy with it. did a 300 mile road trip with 1 dc fast charge stop. easy peasy. i do not have a small herd of 6'2+ people to tote around so there's that. i also was able to fit a 24 inch diswasher in the back of the kona with the seats down so the "boot" is more than adequate unless you need an 8 foot pickup bed. then get a pickup.

  • @lordpillai6811
    @lordpillai6811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want this channel to grow... so "huuhhhh!!!" :P Great video as always!

  • @Mchooligan09
    @Mchooligan09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Think I would take the Kia E-Niro slightly larger but same range. Nice vid Jack.

  • @FrauStechpalme
    @FrauStechpalme ปีที่แล้ว

    With our first baby now over 9 months old and planning to have two more, we have just ordered a 2022 Ioniq 5 Dynamiq RWD. Finding an EV SUV that would be comfortable and fast to charge, have the range for country living and long car trips in Australia AND would fit potentially 3 child seats in the back plus pram and luggage, it was really a toss-up for us between the Tesla Model Y and the Ioniq 5. The Kona would be too small for us. I'm so excited -- it's not only our first EV (after everyone I spoke to told us to get a hybrid as the charger network in Australia is still barely out of its infancy....we didn't listen) it's also our first new car after decades of driving old ones. We will be taking it through its paces on a big road trip at Christmas and praying we don't have to wait hours to use the fast chargers on the highway. Now to get the Zappi solar-aware charger installed at home....

  • @SingleTrackMined
    @SingleTrackMined 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Present. Thanks, Jack

  • @jockmoron
    @jockmoron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing to note, the long range Ioniq and the 4wd version can tow up to 1,600 kg braked trailer. The standard car is restricted to 750 kg. That's a medium sized caravan or pretty reasonable boat. Range will nearly halve though. Very few BEV car reviews consider towing capacity. Pity the Ioniq is so relatively inefficient.

  • @neilb3112
    @neilb3112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I test drove the Ionic 5 a few weeks ago. Ultimately we decided not to order and my teenage son advised me to stick with my five year old A6 Avant! Two main reasons - 1) the front interior is nice enough, but in the back it is super basic and all brittle hard plastic, 2) the rear headroom, whilst clearly plenty enough for Jack in the video, was insufficient for my 6ft 2in son - who easily sits for a couple of hours in the back of the Audi.
    The outlaws have a Kona and love it. Certainly they are also seeing the massive range in their day to day driving.

  • @NorbertNagy00
    @NorbertNagy00 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video however as a Hyundai ioniq 5 73kwh owner I need to correct you on stats.
    Kona 64 kwh is usable
    Ioniq 5 73kwh only 65kwh usable.
    Auto regen can do wonders to the range so 300 or more can be achieved on a full charge despite a boxy shape. Looking forward to ypur nect video and hope to meet you in person at a fully charge show

  • @gixeco
    @gixeco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    spot on video. But I still don't know what to chose between these :) Gut on Ioniq 5. Very happy with Ioniq Hybrid experience so far.

  • @jonathanhill7891
    @jonathanhill7891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just taken delivery of a Kona today. For me, the Ioniq 5 is a bit too big, and not everyone needs a huge amount of boot or other space. The Kona's boot is quite a bit bigger than that of the Suzuki Swift I traded-in...

    • @TaiViinikka
      @TaiViinikka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First thing I did with my Kona EV back in 2019 was take out the weird soundproofing / spacefilling foam that takes up 1/2 the boot. I kept it, assuming I'd put it back after the heavily-loaded summer cottage trips. But no, I never really wanted it again. :)

  • @bigpasto
    @bigpasto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I live in an area where the winters can be unpredictable - do you reckon I try to get AWD on the Ioniq 5? or do you think the RWD model will handle fine in the snow

  • @TheMarrethiel
    @TheMarrethiel ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks.

  • @Zeraxxus
    @Zeraxxus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh! Thanks for the good comparison.