Excellent video - I really appreciate the deep dive! Can you set this up to trigger record automatically after a count in from the beat buddy? In other words, track one is armed and waiting for the Beat Buddy count in to finish before it starts to record. I do this with my Beat Buddy and EHX 1440 and I love it.
Best review of a looper I've seen as it pertains to actual live performance. Most reviews i've seen seem to be centered around either bedroom practice, or just making a back track someone can solo over. I'm more interested in how it can be used to build into a song, how it can be used to take away and add layers when needed during real time performance. Your review covered it well.
Great show! I really appreciate seeing your methods, hearing your musical vision. There is so much more to learn when you share these less-than-obvious use scenarios. Big thanks! I have to say that omitting half the MIDI communication seems, well - I’ll say it; stupid! This is a company whose primary products lean very heavily on MIDI and they choose to build the equivalent of one walkie-talkie. I trend slightly toward cynical but facts is facts. It is not a budget unit and I expect everything.
@@martijn3151 This is a product I would neither buy nor recommend. “Sheeran?!?” What a cheese branding ploy. Headrush has told me something very important about their business in general. I appreciate the knowledge I can use to narrow my choices.
Cracking Review, really helpful. Great songs too.. I have one of these, it is my first looper and i am learning every day. This video has really helped me. Thank you
never thought I would be grooving to get down with the sickness! just bought one of these and it's shipping - sucking up every vid I can find right now - looked at Boss but decided what I really wanted, and what had always tripped me up and made me lose interest in loopers too quickly, was simplicity above all
Great review Dave - explained everything I need to know except that in SONG mode why wouldn't you use the Select A Mute B and Select B Mute A assignments for FS1 and FS2? Mine stay greyed out by the way.
I was playing my acoustic through the HeadRush for this video. I have a patch setup, but I didn’t add anything extra for the percussion, it was the same compression, eq, reverb etc
have you been able to apply separate effects to your mic and your guitar? i do loops and want to have a nice clean mic'd acoustic looping and then electric guitar over it
Hi. One thing you didn't seem to mention was the loop level. Am I right in assuming there's no loop level control. The RC 500 has faders as does the 300. I'm just wondering how you'd control loop levels, especially in a live situation?.
Could this be used with the Valeton GP 200 as external footswitch looper … although Valeton has a looper this may help with timing issues and Valeton has a drum machine 100 drum loops , syncs with loop too settings but I love idea of bigger pedals My Valeton is my favorite pedal ever every user patch is useable and you can make your own and buy few Metallica presets import and export also easy to load IRs too
Re: This Sheeran Looper + with BeatBuddy. Now, after having a little experience with these two units, I am finding that they do not play nice together. The problem is that the Sheeran looper, although able to receive Midi Sync, will not round off the start and end points (of your foot stomp) to the nearest measure or bar. It only registers the in and out points to the next or previous midi clock beat, whichever is closest.  It is important to understand that midi clock beats can be of increments of a 16th note, 8th note etc. , but it does not round them off to the nearest measure or bar, which causes a problem because it leaves no room for human error . This is a feature of many loopers which is called quantization. The sheeran looper + has no ability to control or edit this . this feature is desirable because it eliminates the need to be absolutely precise on hitting with your foot the In and outpoints of the loop. Having them round off to the nearest start of the measure or end of the measure (Barr) allows a comfort zone for human error in terms of timing . So consequently, in the sheeran looper if you happen to be off even by a 16th note between the start and the endpoint of your foot stomp, it will eventually drift out of sync between the loop and the beats of the beat buddy. So yes, you can sync the units together, but without the quantization the two units do not continue to sync together in terms of bars and eventually drift apart. It’s like a bad marriage.
Like your headrush a step below is the Valeton GP 200 has clock syncing for looping built in drum machine tap tempo and a dial to adjust tempo but my problem was first attempt loop I was doing can’t get no satisfaction and I tried to make fuzz preset and clean for acoustic but when you switch patch mode the fuzz patch becomes clean and zeros it out. So I know by watching your video I need to upgrade my FS5 to a FS6 I’m believing it can do it because second guitar line for acoustic and taking away my original issue. I don’t have your voice so I won’t be stealing your awesome mash but I’ll do something similar with Johnny Cash and few other baritone
So you use a 2nd mic for any of the vocal looping? I was wondering about that, because I like to have easy control of my main mic on the board for EQ/effects/volume. Great video thank you!
Great demo! I recently bought this looper and really dig it. As a newcomer to looping, I have a question regarding the inability to add effects (as you mentioned in the video). I have over 20 guitar pedals in the signal path before the looper. Is there any way to run these through the microphone connected to the looper? Thanks.
Thanks. I just noticed that you can't assign the external foot switch to load a saved song. I would like to prerecord loops for live performances. I wonder if they plan on doing this in the future.
At this stage the Looper doesn’t slave to the BB. It follows the midi clock and loops to the closest midi downbeat. It’s usable, you just need to be accurate with the initial loop and figure out a way to make it work for you.
Hi Dave Thanks for this video. I am having the hardest time synchin the BB to the Looper +. The MIDI cable that comes with the looper + and the cable for the BB as you know has both female ends. I went ahead and purchased another cable for the Looper plus to take the signal from the BB to the looper + hooked it all up and set all parameters and it seems the looper + is not getting the clock synch. When I try to record a loop while the BB is running it just sits in record waiting. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Don’t know if you got yours working; I was having the same problem. I had my Sheeran + set on Omni midi and receiving outside clock. I went into the Beatbuddy, pushing down on the drum set and tempo knobs simultaneously. Then scrolled down to midi settings- midi out and opened that screen up. I guess Singular Sound has the default midi channel on 1 so I got out and selected Midi channel 1 on the Sheeran and works perfectly. Like Dave said you have to be precise when starting your loop. I started at the beginning of looping and pretty much all of them were like this.
Awesome review. Did you provide Headrush with your feedback on why it is they chose not to wait until the beginning of the bar? Seems really fiddly tbh. Perhaps they are able to fix this in an update?
Great content. I recently bought the Looper + to see if it could function like my Jamsync Pedals when used with my SDRUM. I don't often play with a live drummer, so for years I've set my Jamsync Pedals to start recording a loop on the downbeat of the drum part. However, it seems that the Looper + begins recording on the next clock beat instead of the downbeat, and it also stops on the next clock beat. In contrast, the Jamsync stops at the end of the measure. This timing mismatch doesn't work for me, and I'm not willing to relearn every song in our set. It's a shame because the pedal has a great design and feels good to use. I appreciate the ability to adjust the input and output to mix with other sounds. I believe I have it set up correctly-it's connected to the SDRUM via a 3.5mm cable, and I've adjusted the settings to receive the MIDI Clock signal. Do you have any suggestions on how I can get the Looper + to function the way I need it to?
I was having the same issue. As far as I could tell, the Looper + isn’t encouraged to work with a drum machine. It was doable, but it was tricky and I found myself in the same situation as you. For me, it would be perfect as a looper for a small acoustic rig, but it wouldn’t be for my Beatbuddy setup. To use it with a drum machine you’d need to make the sacrifice & learn the change.
Thanks for the helpful video! What type(s) of external footswitches are compatible? Latching, momentary... Can they be passive or do they need to be powered? Thanks!
Can you send say a bass loop to the bass amp and guitar loop to guitar amp? I like to make loops and play drums over them. And playing drums is better with a bass rig going.
Their importance is entirely up to the individual performer IMO. Personally, I don’t bother with either. If I ever came across a song that would really benefit, then I’d try it out. But meh, doesn’t matter to me.
Can I quantize to a tempo from an external device. Like set the tempo to 85BPM start the loop then when I start the record it will quantize the loop...make sense?
It will follow the tempo set from external device, but you need to be accurate when you record and end the loop. The Looper+ midi syncs to the nearest midi downbeat and will quantize to that, so if you’re out, you’re loop will be out.
Here the issue I’m having. When I double tap the r/p button to switch tracks, it immeeediately starts recording after the first tap so I always end up with a split second of recording whenever I switch tracks? wtf? Help!
That’s a pain that it’s recording that small amount before transitioning. Firstly check you have the latest firmware. Otherwise, only thing I can think of would be to use an external switch for changing to the 2nd track.
Hi Dave. I was wondering if you could help been using the Rc 300 for years and been try to download beats from my make as wav file s but keep getting error messages. unsupported format. can you help ? plus I really like your channel Ive leaned a lot from you thanks for all your info !!!
Hey mate. Firstly make sure you’re exporting the wav files at the correct sample rate. From memory I think RC300 only accepts 44k 16bit. If you still get unsupported format, I have found that you can’t just delete the loop from the pedal, you need to delete the file in the folder when connected to the computer, and sometimes even replace the folder. Just make sure you name it correctly and it works fine. It’s definitely a bit scary deleting the folder, just make sure to double check everything and it will be all good.
Great vid! At 9.20 you can clear both tracks by holding down the stop pedal for a longer amount of tine.
Good to know! Cheers.
Excellent video - I really appreciate the deep dive! Can you set this up to trigger record automatically after a count in from the beat buddy? In other words, track one is armed and waiting for the Beat Buddy count in to finish before it starts to record. I do this with my Beat Buddy and EHX 1440 and I love it.
Best review of a looper I've seen as it pertains to actual live performance. Most reviews i've seen seem to be centered around either bedroom practice, or just making a back track someone can solo over. I'm more interested in how it can be used to build into a song, how it can be used to take away and add layers when needed during real time performance. Your review covered it well.
Great show! I really appreciate seeing your methods, hearing your musical vision. There is so much more to learn when you share these less-than-obvious use scenarios. Big thanks!
I have to say that omitting half the MIDI communication seems, well - I’ll say it; stupid! This is a company whose primary products lean very heavily on MIDI and they choose to build the equivalent of one walkie-talkie. I trend slightly toward cynical but facts is facts. It is not a budget unit and I expect everything.
yes, exactly that and their weird choice for not waiting for a bar to finish, actually holds me back from buying this.
@@martijn3151 This is a product I would neither buy nor recommend. “Sheeran?!?” What a cheese branding ploy. Headrush has told me something very important about their business in general. I appreciate the knowledge I can use to narrow my choices.
Cracking Review, really helpful. Great songs too.. I have one of these, it is my first looper and i am learning every day. This video has really helped me. Thank you
This was super helpful and ur performances were sick! 🤘
Brah! Your mashup was fyyah!🔥
Nice demo, thanks Dave👌
just bought one, great video, love the colour of that LP! 😊
excellent video Dave- explained the Beatbuddy control well. Seems like you have to be spot on with the stomp on the Looper to work properly.
Stealing that Mashup! You can steal Mine and Add on No Diggity onto the end! hahaha
good video btw.
Ah nice! Totally stealing that. Cheers.
Great demo man and very informative. Thank you!
never thought I would be grooving to get down with the sickness! just bought one of these and it's shipping - sucking up every vid I can find right now - looked at Boss but decided what I really wanted, and what had always tripped me up and made me lose interest in loopers too quickly, was simplicity above all
Just discovered your channel! Great work! You’re an excellent musician and performer too! Subscribed!!
Good video. I think it would be helpful if you would show what settings need to be changed on the looper + in order to use it with the Beatbuddy
All that needs to be changed (in the MIDI settings) is explained in the video. The BeatBuddy is the master, the Looper the slave. 😊
Great review Dave - explained everything I need to know except that in SONG mode why wouldn't you use the Select A Mute B and Select B Mute A assignments for FS1 and FS2? Mine stay greyed out by the way.
I love the percussion sounds you get, are you using pedals?
I was playing my acoustic through the HeadRush for this video. I have a patch setup, but I didn’t add anything extra for the percussion, it was the same compression, eq, reverb etc
have you been able to apply separate effects to your mic and your guitar? i do loops and want to have a nice clean mic'd acoustic looping and then electric guitar over it
Hi. One thing you didn't seem to mention was the loop level.
Am I right in assuming there's no loop level control.
The RC 500 has faders as does the 300.
I'm just wondering how you'd control loop levels, especially in a live situation?.
Could this be used with the Valeton GP 200 as external footswitch looper … although Valeton has a looper this may help with timing issues and Valeton has a drum machine 100 drum loops , syncs with loop too settings but I love idea of bigger pedals My Valeton is my favorite pedal ever every user patch is useable and you can make your own and buy few Metallica presets import and export also easy to load IRs too
Re: This Sheeran Looper + with BeatBuddy.
Now, after having a little experience with these two units, I am finding that they do not play nice together. The problem is that the Sheeran looper, although able to receive Midi Sync, will not round off the start and end points (of your foot stomp) to the nearest measure or bar. It only registers the in and out points to the next or previous midi clock beat, whichever is closest.  It is important to understand that midi clock beats can be of increments of a 16th note, 8th note etc. , but it does not round them off to the nearest measure or bar, which causes a problem because it leaves no room for human error . This is a feature of many loopers which is called quantization. The sheeran looper + has no ability to control or edit this . this feature is desirable because it eliminates the need to be absolutely precise on hitting with your foot the In and outpoints of the loop. Having them round off to the nearest start of the measure or end of the measure (Barr) allows a comfort zone for human error in terms of timing . So consequently, in the sheeran looper if you happen to be off even by a 16th note between the start and the endpoint of your foot stomp, it will eventually drift out of sync between the loop and the beats of the beat buddy. So yes, you can sync the units together, but without the quantization the two units do not continue to sync together in terms of bars and eventually drift apart. It’s like a bad marriage.
Like your headrush a step below is the Valeton GP 200 has clock syncing for looping built in drum machine tap tempo and a dial to adjust tempo but my problem was first attempt loop I was doing can’t get no satisfaction and I tried to make fuzz preset and clean for acoustic but when you switch patch mode the fuzz patch becomes clean and zeros it out. So I know by watching your video I need to upgrade my FS5 to a FS6 I’m believing it can do it because second guitar line for acoustic and taking away my original issue. I don’t have your voice so I won’t be stealing your awesome mash but I’ll do something similar with Johnny Cash and few other baritone
Great vidnare there any effect vocal or guitarincluded
Not in this one. The larger board has the additional guitar & vocal effects.
@@DaveWebbMusic thanx for the fast response
So you use a 2nd mic for any of the vocal looping? I was wondering about that, because I like to have easy control of my main mic on the board for EQ/effects/volume. Great video thank you!
Good show Dave
Great demo! I recently bought this looper and really dig it. As a newcomer to looping, I have a question regarding the inability to add effects (as you mentioned in the video). I have over 20 guitar pedals in the signal path before the looper. Is there any way to run these through the microphone connected to the looper? Thanks.
Thanks. I just noticed that you can't assign the external foot switch to load a saved song. I would like to prerecord loops for live performances. I wonder if they plan on doing this in the future.
Great video! I can’t get my BeatBuddy to run with looper x, what does the trick, what am I missing? 🤔Any hint would be greatly appreciated 😊
Thanks man!
I’ll be getting the Looper X to review next week, so I’ll have a look then. Hopefully you figure it out in the meantime.
@@DaveWebbMusic Sorry, I meant Looper + 🙈
At this stage the Looper doesn’t slave to the BB. It follows the midi clock and loops to the closest midi downbeat. It’s usable, you just need to be accurate with the initial loop and figure out a way to make it work for you.
Hi Dave Thanks for this video. I am having the hardest time synchin the BB to the Looper +. The MIDI cable that comes with the looper + and the cable for the BB as you know has both female ends. I went ahead and purchased another cable for the Looper plus to take the signal from the BB to the looper + hooked it all up and set all parameters and it seems the looper + is not getting the clock synch. When I try to record a loop while the BB is running it just sits in record waiting. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Don’t know if you got yours working; I was having the same problem. I had my Sheeran + set on Omni midi and receiving outside clock. I went into the Beatbuddy, pushing down on the drum set and tempo knobs simultaneously. Then scrolled down to midi settings- midi out and opened that screen up. I guess Singular Sound has the default midi channel on 1 so I got out and selected Midi channel 1 on the Sheeran and works perfectly. Like Dave said you have to be precise when starting your loop. I started at the beginning of looping and pretty much all of them were like this.
Awesome review. Did you provide Headrush with your feedback on why it is they chose not to wait until the beginning of the bar? Seems really fiddly tbh. Perhaps they are able to fix this in an update?
Great content. I recently bought the Looper + to see if it could function like my Jamsync Pedals when used with my SDRUM. I don't often play with a live drummer, so for years I've set my Jamsync Pedals to start recording a loop on the downbeat of the drum part. However, it seems that the Looper + begins recording on the next clock beat instead of the downbeat, and it also stops on the next clock beat. In contrast, the Jamsync stops at the end of the measure.
This timing mismatch doesn't work for me, and I'm not willing to relearn every song in our set. It's a shame because the pedal has a great design and feels good to use. I appreciate the ability to adjust the input and output to mix with other sounds. I believe I have it set up correctly-it's connected to the SDRUM via a 3.5mm cable, and I've adjusted the settings to receive the MIDI Clock signal.
Do you have any suggestions on how I can get the Looper + to function the way I need it to?
I was having the same issue. As far as I could tell, the Looper + isn’t encouraged to work with a drum machine. It was doable, but it was tricky and I found myself in the same situation as you.
For me, it would be perfect as a looper for a small acoustic rig, but it wouldn’t be for my Beatbuddy setup.
To use it with a drum machine you’d need to make the sacrifice & learn the change.
It does not come with the adapter. You need to buy that swparately.
Thanks for the helpful video! What type(s) of external footswitches are compatible? Latching, momentary... Can they be passive or do they need to be powered? Thanks!
I used the boss FS7, which has the ability to be latching or momentary, but I found momentary the way to go. I didn’t power it & it worked fine.
Thanks for the quick response, cheers!
Hey! Great video! I see you are using the Boss Fs7 but not cable power to power the pedal, how did you do that? Or am I missing something?
The power is only for the lights, otherwise it just works 🤘🏼
@@DaveWebbMusic omg i didn't know that! thanks!
@franciscodominguezguitar2510 yeah man, it’s so handy!
Can you send say a bass loop to the bass amp and guitar loop to guitar amp? I like to make loops and play drums over them. And playing drums is better with a bass rig going.
Is there a bluetooth in this looper so that i can transfer data from my phone.
I like Boss RC 600
Thanks Dave! (you know what I mean!😅) 🤘🏻
What’s the second pedal you use to switch between track A and B in this video called??😅🙏
does anyone know??🙏🙏🙏
Are reverse or fade effects important to loopers?
Their importance is entirely up to the individual performer IMO. Personally, I don’t bother with either. If I ever came across a song that would really benefit, then I’d try it out. But meh, doesn’t matter to me.
@@DaveWebbMusic thx for response
Does it have any effects for vocals and guitar?
No, not on this one. They saved that for the bigger unit.
Can I quantize to a tempo from an external device. Like set the tempo to 85BPM start the loop then when I start the record it will quantize the loop...make sense?
It will follow the tempo set from external device, but you need to be accurate when you record and end the loop. The Looper+ midi syncs to the nearest midi downbeat and will quantize to that, so if you’re out, you’re loop will be out.
Here the issue I’m having. When I double tap the r/p button to switch tracks, it immeeediately starts recording after the first tap so I always end up with a split second of recording whenever I switch tracks? wtf? Help!
That’s a pain that it’s recording that small amount before transitioning.
Firstly check you have the latest firmware.
Otherwise, only thing I can think of would be to use an external switch for changing to the 2nd track.
Hi Dave. I was wondering if you could help been using the Rc 300 for years and been try to download beats from my make as wav file s but keep getting error messages. unsupported format. can you help ?
plus I really like your channel Ive leaned a lot from you thanks for all your info !!!
Hey mate. Firstly make sure you’re exporting the wav files at the correct sample rate. From memory I think RC300 only accepts 44k 16bit.
If you still get unsupported format, I have found that you can’t just delete the loop from the pedal, you need to delete the file in the folder when connected to the computer, and sometimes even replace the folder.
Just make sure you name it correctly and it works fine.
It’s definitely a bit scary deleting the folder, just make sure to double check everything and it will be all good.
@@DaveWebbMusic Thanks 🙏🏾 for the advice and quick response
Thanks Dave! I've got a Beat Buddy - great to see it plays nice with the Sheeran kit...
I'm just wondering, why did they call it "plus"? To me it more like "minus". It just a looper WITHOUT effects.