Has Ridgid Passed Milwaukee? - Ridgid's New High-Torque Hammer Drill
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Ridgid recently released their new High-Torque Hammer Drill touting 1250 in/lbs or torque. So does this new drill deliver on those claims?
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Both are great hammer drills. Glad RIDGID came out with a new High Torque drill though.
It’s competitive and took some tests from Milwaukee. Not a bad drill at all.
It was definitely needed😂
I'm glad I have the octane version but it sucks that it only gets the higher torque with the octane batteries. I have the new drill too and it's awesome
The 6 amp Ridgid battery uses 18650 cells, while the 6 amp Milwaukee battery uses 21700 cells.
The only max output Ridgid battery with 21700 cells is the 8 amp.
A better comparison would be the 5 amp Milwaukee that has 18650 cells.
I plan on making that video.
Yeah that is why I did the 4s first. It’s nearly impossible to make everything equal each video but hopefully doing both batteries gives you a comparison of what to expect.
@@TinkerWithTools I did appreciate that because it showed that even the gen 3 bogged down. It just got a little further than the Ridgid.
Ridgid now has lifetime parts and service for the tools and lifetime warranty for their batteries. Now it does require a tool registration within 90 days of purchase. BUT holy cow!! Lifetime warranty on batteries and tools?! That's insane!!
Oh yeah - LOVED the vid!! Well done!
Yeah the LSA on Ridgid is a difference maker in terms of having the tools protected long term.
The 2 9/16" switchblade is pretty much what set the Gen 3 apart from the Ridgid.
But so far I'm glad Ridgid has stepped up and kept up with one of the most competent hammer drills even today . The fans have been wanting a high torque for almost 3 years when the Octane was phased out
That’s a good take on it.
I put my ridgid through residential construction lumber all day using a 2-9/16 such blade. In fact i have several videos of it
Great review. I believe that the 6ah Milwaukee is 21700 cells. The Ridgid 6ah is not. As everyone knows a 21700 cell battery will be at a 18650 cell battery. If they both had 21700 cells these would be extremely close. I would pick Ridgid just because I'm already in that platform. If I was starting out I'd probably go with Milwaukee.
Hi Mike, and everybody else. Mike even having the LSA in the R, You would start again in the Milwaukee line? ...Homeowner here replacing my porter cable 18v line. Thanks
@@firestomper3132 That is a tough one. I have had Ridgid stuff since 2011. I have had only one problem with my tools. It is the oscillating tools speed control knob broke. Everything thing else is perfect. I'm using my tools now and some of my guys are using my tools now to do a remodel on a home. I believe Milwaukee is a step up from Ridgid so I believe they would be just as reliable. So to me it's sixes. I'd say Milwaukee just because there tool lineup is bigger.
The Rigid octane 3ah battery has 21700 cells and so does the new 8ah max output. You need to try one of those two batteries on it
@@darrenporschWould love to see this as well
Life Service Agreement is killing point if the performance is similar.
Great testing Taylor. This one I was definitely looking forward to. I’m glad you compared it to Gen 3 to level the playing field as per specs. Very thorough brother. That Gen 3 Milwaukee should be in the hammer drill hall of fame man😂. The Ridgid seemed super quick but if you don’t have that competitive torque speed is nothing. They both looked great. Loved the commentary at the end💯. Enjoy the rest of your weekend brother. Hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving
Happy thanksgiving to you too man!
The batteries you're using for the ridgid are 18650s and the high outputs on the milwaukee are using 21700.
You'd figure as a tool channel you'd understand what's happening here
I understand that the batteries have different cells but the Milwaukee did more on the 4 than the Ridgid did on its 4. Both of those have 18650s. The Ridgid felt fast but with less torque.
I've had different experiences
I dont think it's power/torque that's holding the Ridgid back. It wasn't decreasing in speed relative to the Milwaukee, it was cutting out which indicates to me that it's got the same aggressive software issues that alot of the Ridgid drills have. They'll be cruising along fine and then BAM, they just shut down.
I assume this is a concession made to either keep Milwaukee at the top or to keep DIYers from maiming themselves after just strolling into the orange box store without really knowing what they're doing.
I'd say without an instant cut out feature that senses when the drill binds/rotates, that it's probably in people whom don't use the handle's best interest that it is limited.
I like and use both brands. Test results would have gone different if all tests with Milwaukee were done using the high output battery. The 4ah and 6ah used on the Ridgid are max output batteries, their top of the line batteries. The 5ah used on the Milwaukee is not high output. Ridgid usually has better deals. I got this new Ridgid kit (impact and hammer drill) for about $200 after the two “free” tools it came with.
I feel that it's also worth noting that I specifically chose the Gen 3 M18, not the newest Gen 4, for this video since it's the most similar and closely related. If you picked the Gen 4 the results would also change.
Appreciate the vid. I have the Ridgid platform. (Started with a combo as a gift) but I have added to it and for me everything works pretty good. Just wish they would sell all the products in Canada.
I think I’ll perches this hammer drill for my ice auger. I have been running the gen5. But this seems to be quite an upgrade.
I don’t have my Gen 5x any more to compare but I can tell you that it was no where near the performance of this new high torque hammer drill. You would be pleased for sure.
I will also be looking to see if you do an impact driver comparison.
That’s where I think Ridgid will shine
Unless you get a bad one like the one Workshop Addict got, the Ridgid impact drivers have proven to be nothing short of beastly,especially the new 4 mode that was released at the same time as the new hammer drill in this video. I think it might be as strong as the Flex that doesn’t have a stacked lithium battery.
This is the reason why a lot of professional trades people don’t use one single brand. Each brand has a really strong tool, but not necessarily every tool, so multiple brands are sometimes necessary.
They haven’t had it in my store yet and I really don’t want to pay for the kit but they haven’t released it tool only last time I checked.
@@TinkerWithTools The three speed is available in stores. That’s the one that comes in the kit with the 800 inch pound hammer drill, but it’s also available as a bare tool or in a kit with a battery and a charger.
The new 4 mode is only available online.
It’s $199, and comes with battery, charger and hard case.
@@DiligentDave1966 I have the 3 mode and it is an animal. Came with the kit you mentioned - hammer drill, impact driver, 4ah and 2ah max bats and charger for only $119. Steal of a deal imho. Is the 4th mode same as the subcompact impact wrenches - auto mode?
@@ridemfast7625 I don’t know of any kit for $119.
The new 4 mode is three speed plus auto. I know someone who has it, and said the trigger isn’t nearly as responsive as the gen 4 Milwaukee.
@@DiligentDave1966 Auto is nice to have. Its useful on Ridgid impact wrenches. The kit with all the pieces I mentioned was on sale with another tool for ~$200 last summer. Cancel the "other tool" and only the prorated kit price of $119 will be charged, and free shipping:) Many have done this on various deals the past few years.
Btw I see you used 6ah packs, are they both using 21700 cells? Because if they use 18650's they are weakish, weaker than 4ah that use 18650. But if they use 21700, they are one of the more powerful packs in general
The Ridgid batteries are 18650. You have to go to the 8ah to get 21700 with Ridgid.
@@TinkerWithTools yeah than it had a disadvantage, even compared to 4ah pack, not to mention 6ah ho (approx 40 vs 80A max). Milwaukee 6ah that uses 18650 cells would have the same power
@@TinkerWithTools unless you can get a 3ah octane battery with 21700 cells
@@ckcuev the octane 3ah 21700 cells were low quality. Hence the 3ah pack being the size of a 4ah pack
@M-TeK-9 I disagree. The octane 3ah was a great battery and have been better than the 4ah max output in my opinion.
There was no way TTI was going to let Ridgid put out a drill with more power than the Milwaukee after the PR nightmare they had when the Ridgid Octane high torque impact wrench kicked everyone's butt including Milwaukee on TTC. I'm a DIY / home gamer I buy the Ridgid's for the LSA and the price/power value proposition.
I have an octane 3 ah battery with the 21700 cells. I want to see what that battery does for it.
I’ve been in contact with professional trades people via TH-cam, and more are using Ridgid than you might think.
There’s an electrician that uses the 800 inch pound Ridgid drill to make the holes in studs to run electrical wires all day, and says it doesn’t get nearly as hot as other brands.
I know people that are using them and they are solid tools. I didn’t care for the ergonomics and the refinement of the older models (Gen 5x) but they have made improvements lately.
@@TinkerWithTools I probably said it before, but I don’t care for the ergonomics of the gen 4 Milwaukee, especially the drill.
The only real difference was the last hole cut. If the Ridgid did not have the anti kick, I believe it would have been around 5 seconds making it close to m12.
Anti kick is meant for human and tool safety
The Octane hammer drill that they've had for a few years and is now discontinued for this one, has 1,300 inch lbs.
You are right. I briefly mention it at the beginning of the video.
And it never even came close to 1300
In order to do a proper comparison, you'd need a 3ah octane battery and an 8ah max output battery since those have 21700 cells in them. One of the biggest downsides of ridgid is the fact that the batteries got nerfed, so they went from 21700 to 18650s. Milwaukee on the other hand uses 21700s on all of their high output m18 batteries.
I have a follow up video where we do run the Ridgid on the 8 ah battery. th-cam.com/video/E4ujj8gtfPc/w-d-xo.html
Could you try putting the times vertically as opposed to horizontally during the tests themselves? It might be easier to read since they’re only on screen for a moment.
As for Ridgid, they’re always in a confusing space where every other generation is competing with ryobi level tools and the next is trying to hang with the pro level. It kinda leaves them without their own identity.
I’ll try to look at making them more readable. As for your second point I agree.
i agree, i think its internal politics at TTI, being that they are all under the same parent company, milwaukee, ryobi, ridgid and hart, whenever ridgid gets too close to outshine milwaukee, OR outperform milwaukee, Ridgid is swiftly reduced, or put back in its place, so to speak... rule #1 NEVER outshine the master😄
Would be nice to see how this new Ridgid compares with the older Octane
I don’t have the octane but if I get me hands on one I’ll be sure to test.
The new one is definitely better I have alot of older rigid and the newer rigid
@@luigunovarina382agreed
Wonder if the two drills gears are set differently like ridgid in speed 2 is geared differently than Milwaukee
So like for the rigid they put more of the power in speed one
Entirely possible. They rarely publish specs on it but I suspect that they took the Milwaukee tech and refined it.
Besides the Milwaukee Fuel M18 Gen4 I just received I Also have the Ridgid Gen5x combo. The drill has 100 clutch selections, so I think I’ll start using it now as a heavy cordless screwdriver. :)
Man and I thought the 42+21 (speed 1&2) on the Makita XGT were a lot.
@@TinkerWithTools This is why I don’t want to part with it. I think the number of settings is pretty unique.
The kick back on the ridgid is the difference gen 3 Milwaukee don’t have it. Gen 4 does similar stoppages in high torque testing.
Human error has a lot to do with results and performance. If you're forcing it, anyone can make just about any tool stall out. You have to let the tool do the work....
I think they are much closer than tested. The Milwaukee battery has more cells than the Ridgid. More cells, more power.
If you are referring to the high output Milwaukee battery, it doesn't have more cells but it does have difference cells. 21700 vs 18650. I have since retested this drill with a Battery Ridgid sent me with 21700 cells and the drill did perform better. That was the video I put out last week if you are interested.
Lol next time i have a drill race on the job I'll take this into consideration😅.. I'm pretty sure it's fine.. if you have the 800 ft lb ridgid and you don't get through jobs you need done then consider the upgrade of you're on the platform already.. just an opinion.. never been Putting a ledger lok in and had someone run up to me and start racing me.. if 1 second a bolt is how tight your time is.. skip lunch lol
Some people care about having the latest and greatest or the most powerful, others don't. To each their own!
Drilling through wood with large bits is really meant to be done on speed one. You will end up killing the battery faster on high speeds. I would trust the manufacturer's specs and just conclude they're almost the same in power, but the rigid does come out ahead slightly, yet costs less. I don't know about you but Rigid has got me with their lower price and lifetime parts and labor warranty. That's fantastic over Milwaukee's 5 year limited warranty. Go for the Rigid folks, unless you prefer paying more for less.
I agree with your assessment for the most part but just want to point out that this is the last gen Milwaukee. If you go for the newest generation which is what most people would be buying, you wouldn’t be paying more for less. Doesn’t mean that is where you should put your money just adding some clarification
@@TinkerWithTools Hey, re-reading my comment appears a bit snobbish, please forgive me. I should have thanked you for the video first because this video is what helped me make a decision on which kit to purchase. I didn't know there's a new version of Milwaukee, I'll check it out thanks again bud! God Bless.
I didn't read into it as snobbish so you are good. I just wanted to make it clear that it wasn't against the newest Milwaukee. Your assessment is a very honest assessment that most of us should come to terms with. As long as power and performance are enough for us, then things like value and warranty protection (or an LSA) should help to sway your decision more than the color or name on the tool.
I wonder about the hammer drill fonction?? Is the frequency and the impacting better that the old ridgid brushless and the Milwaukee??
I have it on my radar to do more testing with the hammer function of hammer drills so stay tuned! On paper it has 500 bpm more than the older Ridgid model and equal to the Gen 3 Milwaukee.
@@TinkerWithTools sometimes it is about how it use those bpm I know the Ryobi hp as a different mechanism and is almost as fast as the flex 💪 looking forward to see the that testing 🤙
I do commercial installation and use all rigid your rite on the price I could of got milllwaukee for the price never had any problems with my rigid
You’ve already replaced your Gen 3. Did I miss a video on that?
I recorded a little bit about it but it seemed boring so I haven’t edited it together yet. I sent it off for repair and they sent back a brand new one as a replacement. Took about two weeks.
The Ridgid is better in my opinion because it nearly matches the Milwaukee in every test and has a far better warranty
I think it will be interesting to see if the trend continues that their top drill is basically a rebranded prior gen Milwaukee. That's what it seems this is and the 800 in/lbs model was basically a Gen 2 Hammer Drill from Milwaukee. Not saying it's a bad thing, just curious to see if thats what they do.
@@TinkerWithTools that's exactly what it is. And that way the Ridgid is always just a little under powered compared to the Milwaukee.
Both drills look exactly alike except for the colors
I wanna see that Ridgid against the DCD805 and fuel gen4
I have another video where we use this drill with an 8ah battery that Ridgid sent over against the best from Milwaukee (gen 4), DEWALT and Bosch. In that video I didn’t use the 805 but instead the 999 since it’s the full size comparison where the 805 is the compact XR drill. th-cam.com/video/E4ujj8gtfPc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JfRLmsCbG88FmZsj
The gen 4 Milwaukee is not as powerful as the gen 3, but has more safety features.
The gen 4 has a long skinny handle.
In my testing the 4 had proven to be just a little bit stronger but it’s not a huge jump by any means.
@@TinkerWithTools I think it depends on the individual drill. In the torque test on Tools With SOALZ, the gen 3 got a higher number using a Quinn torque adapter.
I think the gen 4 has higher rpm, which could make it appear to be stronger.
@@TinkerWithTools What I don’t like about the gen 4 is the long skinny grip, especially on the drill.
Between the long skinny grip and the cant of the handle, the drill feels forward heavy to me. I have fairly narrow hands, but they’re average length, so ergonomics is a big factor for me.
I did order a gen 3 drill for my comparison because it’s still available on the Home Depot website for $99 (bare tool).
I couldn’t find the impact driver to go with it, though.
I'm not understanding how the Milwaukee smashed the switch blade in 3.64 seconds in second gear but in the new video it tapped out immediately do you freshly charge the batteries? Because batteries sitting around loose volts but still show full. So I was wondering if it could be a variation in wood or drop to nominal voltage? What you're thoughts sir?
The batteries are freshly charged before the video. I have been having more failures with that bit recently so I am thinking that i need to change the cutters on it and try that, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I did a new video this morning with the bit in it and saw some similar results but the bosch was able to do it in speed 2. Wood inconsistencies can play a part but honestly don't have an answer other than it might be time for a new bit.
@@TinkerWithTools thank you my friend. I was just curious about what you thought about how sometimes tools proformance varies!! I guess tools have bad days just like us 🤣🤣🤣 and that video this morning was amazing!! That's why I came back to this video to make sure I was not mistaken and the Milwaukee did power through with the 2" 9/16 bit in second gear!! Thank you again for your kindness and hard work.. you're videos are amazing 🤩
@@TacticalThib how are you liking the XGT stuff so far?
@@TinkerWithTools man I'm in love the trigger response is second to none I'm absolutely in love!! My new favorite drill and impact driver!! I think I've watched your xgt videos about 20 times analyzing everything, before I pulled the trigger but I'm very impressed!!
@@TacticalThib glad you are liking them.
Nice comparison. Other channels dump on Ridgid before they even test it
We are very lucky that there are lots of competitive brands out there. I don’t love everything that Ridgid has done or put out in the past but the current crop of tools is pretty legit.
Run the 8 AMP RIDGID I heard that it has more Juice
It likely would but I ran with what I had. There is only so much budget to go around.
You need to run the tools with the batteries that make sense on them
@@riba2233 just to be clear are you saying the 4 and the 6 don’t make sense or that they do?
@@TinkerWithTools if they use 18650 they do ofc. But 8ah is huge since it 100% uses 21700 and weighs a kilo which is to much for a drill
@@riba2233 I think there are situations Where the 8 would make sense to give you extra grunt but I prefer to run a battery that will get the job done but also not kill you arm with the weight. Also I try to show the battery that most people would have with that tool. When kitted it will likely come with a 4 or a 6.
In your opinion, or do you know, how comparable in terms of power is the older octane hammer drill as compared to the new high torque?
Unfortunately I have never used Octane products. I was on Ridgid for Gen5x and then moved to Milwaukee for a time and now I am on essentially all brands save a few. Octane tools are pretty hard to come by now especially where I live. I know that people speak highly about them and so I would like to try them at some point. Power wise I would assume Octane might still be a tough stronger but I feel the ergonomics and weight are better on these newer tools.
@@TinkerWithTools direct tools outlet has a octane hammer drill tool only for like $60 factory refurbished, they are an official home depot/Ridgid/Ryobi reseller. I was thinking about getting one just for fun 🤷🤷🤷
Last I checked they wouldn't ship and l don't have a location near me
@@TinkerWithTools I'm not a huge Ridgid/Ryobi fan anyway, I have one about an hour from me here in Michigan, I've gotten an air compressor and Brad nailer from them before. I may have to drive for this octane though, interesting...
If I had one nearby it would be worth checking out. Especially at the price.
Nice channel enjoying the content
Thanks!
Now with that 8ah! Battery you just got =)
That Milwaukee is a beast
Agreed.
I've a 1/2 ridgid and milwaukee electric drill that will break your wrist instead of stopping all day long so why would I buy a battery powered drill to make a living with? I have a generator! I don't get paid to wait on batteries being charged, these tools are okay for light duty work.
I guess corded tools still work for some but the days of battery tech being less powerful than corded drills are in the past. Most of these drill will deliver more power but they also have tech that will protect the tool and the user.
How to replace carbon brush on X4 impact driver (Ridgid)
Honestly haven’t ever replaced the brushes since most of my tools now are brushless. I might have to do a video for that.
Ridgid is Nilwaukee's lower end tool line.
They are both owned by TTI. It’s typically positioned in the “prosumer” category with Ryobi taking up the DIY
Category. .
Ridgid is not owned by TTI
There for concrete do drill test in concrete that ridgid woops that Milwaukee.
Try both with 8.0 batteries 😳
Ridgid just sent me their 8ah battery so I will be retesting the ridgid but I don't currently have the 8ah with the Milwaukee, just the HO 6.0
Yeah the Ridgid octane is 1300 in lbs
I really wish Milwaukee and Ridgid would stop having a pissing contest. Aside from the Bluetooth and battery temp sensor issues of the octane line their tools were fantastic. Milwaukee needs to get over themselves no one's jumping battery platforms. They cost too much money. Can you just let us team orange folks have decent tools this generation thank you kindly. Because it comes down to what battery platform you're in, all the tools in my trunk are orange. It's about time they give us a decent drill. Even the new impact driver looks really sweet. And it comes in a blow mold case which is awesome instead of their crappy bags.
Hopefully the string of recent good releases continues.
RB? R8* LOL