I owned at one point the DCD996, DCD998, And DCD999 and the 998 is definitely the most power Dewalt drill I have ever owned. However the m18 fuel drill, and flex turbo seem to be the absolute most powerful drill on the market. BUT the Bosch drill surprised the hell out of me, id never own a Bosch tool, but again it did far better than I thought it would have. Keep up the Tinkering.
Thanks. Yeah I have a hard time wanting to buy a power detect drill. I just want them to come out with a new top tier model and make one model for everyone.
I stumbled across your channel and have a couple of comments. First item is if you can get your hands on the Ridgid 12A battery, would love to see a comparison. Second item is the Octane batteries. Currently, HomeDepot is selling 3A Octane batteries. I believe I have every Ridgid battery type except the 12A battery. I have 1.5A (which is about 10y old and still going stong), the Octane 3A and 6A, and all the 2A, 4A, and 6A variations. As you stated at the end, chose the right battery for the job.
The 12ah battery is available here but I am not sure if I will be getting it. While it might provide a power bump on the tool, at some point I feel the size of the battery becomes counter productive due to the increased weight. That’s just my opinion obviously. As for the octane batteries, while those batteries would be new to me, they are not newly produced batteries but instead old stock. That’s my reason for not buying them now. In essence without an octane tool it would just be a battery with 21700 cells which we already have in the 8ah. If you have them and they work, then great but that’s what kept me from buying “new” octane batteries.
For 95% of us, the 800 ft. lb. hammer drill does the job fairly easily. With 1250 ft. lbs. it's becoming a meaningless numbers game, like with wattage in stereos. And with wattage, more doesn't necessarily mean louder. But with that said, if one absolutely has to have 1250 to say "mine's better" then the Black Friday HD of this hammer drill paired with a 1/4" impact with the 4 ah and 6 ah plus charger and a hard storage case PLUS TWO FREE TOOLS for $379 is a very good deal! I'd choose the 8 ah (just so I can say I have one) and 1/2" sub compact impact rated at 250 ft. lb. breakaway for my freebies.
Home Depot has now lowered the price of that Ridgid combo kit to $359 across most markets, and I just picked one up in CT for $342 in store with the 2 free tools. I returned both free tools, thereby hacking the deal down to $166 for the Ridgid High Torque Hammer Drill / 4 mode Impact Driver combo. It's now the 3rd week of January 2024 and that's the cheapest I've seen this combo for. I believe it might go slightly cheaper next week in their effort to get rid of the last combo sets they have leftover from the Holidays with the cost of the kit possibly going as low as $329. If you're in the market for that combo, keep your eyes open for that price around 1/25 - 1/28.
The metabo hpt drill is kind of like that the dv36da but it’s a beast fs also the new one hikoki released is supposed to be really good the dv36dc is the model number and it’s only available on the JDM atm but u can get em on eBay for high dollar prices but you can get em
Slight difference between battaries. Not enough to buy 8 ah at $179 compared to buying a kit of 4 ah and 6 ah plus charger and bag for the same price. Plus with the smaller batteries come less weight. With the big battery is just that, big and heavy! Bosch rocked all but on a Black Friday special, Flex is best!
I think it comes down to use case. There are tasks where the 8ah battery will let the drill complete a task where the others for fail. For the vast majority of individuals they will never meet a task like that. When it comes to which drill is best, the great thing is that there are so many great options.
I would love to see lots of brands develop this tech further. Ridgid and Ryobi both use to have one. Makita has one in need of a refresh and although I think the surge is still great I hope we get a gen 2.
I'm pretty sure a direct tools factory outlet still has them. It most likely be a refurbished one but when they have sales their prices are really cheap and they're worth it.
They do have them occasionally and you can buy them on Amazon or ebay as well. With Direct Tools, they don't often ship their more desirable items and I don't have one near me. With amazon on ebay, I sometimes worry about purchasing batteries that haven't been actually produced in a while and wondering if I am going to get what I actually want.
@@TinkerWithTools Yeah there's no direct tools near me either and I heard they take a while to ship. I use Amazon and eBay both. I think I trust eBay a little more when it's someone who has actual pictures and the box it came in. Amazon's getting notorious for knock-offs
While I'm sure you get more power and longer duration of amp draw thus providing more spec'd power longer, the weight disproportionately is now bottom heavy. And off sets the weight of the motor housing when having to drill any hole that isn't strait up and down. Thus leaving now more room for fatigue of your hands.
The weight is a factor. That’s why I talked about choose the right battery for the right job. There isn’t a whole lot of point to an 8ah battery for a single 2” deck screw but when doing demanding jobs it makes a lot of sense. Overall the Ridgid isn’t a bad size in my opinion.
Techrep, I wish Ridgid and Milwaukee would make a 21700 cell battery that didn’t weigh as much as the tool itself. Hopefully they will release the stacked lithium batteries soon like they said they would.
@@DiligentDave1966 it would be nice. I have some 3amp octane batteries I found new on sale at home Depot that are 21700 cells. And I bought all I could find before they were gone. The part that is annoying is Ridgid is owned by Milwaukee and they have pissing matches with each other. So when Ridgid octane tools out did Milwaukee tools. The high torque impact wrench for example. Milwaukee got their feelings hurt and nerfed the Ridgid line when they came out with the new "brushless" line that is the current models. What Milwaukee fails to realize is that no one is switching battery platforms for 10-15% better specs either way from one brand to the other. I'm team orange and not switching to Milwaukee for better torque just because the new high torque impact wrench is less power than the octane model. So we the consume get screwed. As far as the weight distribution goes I don't use anything more than a 3 amp hour battery on an impact driver or the subcompact impact wrench I have. A drill I will use a four or six amp hr. To balance the weight between battery and motor housing. It would be nice to have the pouch cells like the DeWalt power stack but for Ridgid. Smaller case less weight. Lower amp hr rating sure but higher amp draws for longer can be achieved. Thus having closer to rated power for longer durations
I think it comes down to cost and what's needed for the person using the tool. Not everyone is going to require the utmost power at all times... so they can save a buck and make a cheaper battery. As a user I can have other batteries for less demanding jobs for cheaper.
DEWALT has better feel and ergonomics that the Ridgid. Ridgid has anti kickback. On the 8 the Ridgid feels good but at less it will likely get beat by the DEWALT.
@@TinkerWithTools I appreciate your opinion. Tools With SOALZ recommends Ridgid, but he’s a little biased lol. Ridgid does have a fantastic warranty, and there’s a really good Black Friday deal on it.
Neither one is bad but I also think that any drill you buy will have something that you don’t like. That’s almost inevitable. Waiting to find the absolute perfect one might not happen.
@@TinkerWithTools The 8 amp battery is one of the “free” options with the purchase of the Ridgid combo. That truly makes my choice even more difficult lol.
@DiligentDave1966 what did you go with? I usually go with the best tool in the platform I want to use consistently.. which in my case is ridgid.. just because why buy a tool 5 times because the warranty is only good for 3 years or whatever..I just sold my 10 year old ridgid drill driver combo for 80$ and bought a 250$ new ridgid kit both brushless with new batteries.. only downfall in my opinion is the shitty charger(I don't see it lasting with the thin power cord)
Don't get me wrong, I love your videos. But DeWalt makes batteries with 21700 cells that would be a better apples to apples comparison. Because now you have multiple cell types (18650 and 21700), with varying amounts of cells in each battery. At that point, you could slap a Powerstack on it and still call it a 18v/20v battery and it be "fair" in this test.
Understandable. You still have my subscription, it's much easier to be the critic when you're not the one doing the work. 😉 Next test, it would be cool to see the "best" battery each brand has, regardless of chemistry/cell size. DeWalt Powerstack/Flexvolt, Flex Stacked Lithium, Milwaukee high output, etc. Thanks for what you do!
I haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing but I have looked at some it. not everyone likes every tool. The Makita XGT has performed well for me and it's one of my favorite drills but that doesn't mean it's the best drill for every test.
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I love that ridged contacted you. Good job bro :)
Thanks man!
@TinkerWithTools
Yeah man I've also have been waiting for the 8 Amp battery testing since it was released.
that ridgid drills looks like a good option. it's amazing how time to time it's proven that the batteries make a difference in power
Agreed! Ridgid latest stuff has put them right up there in terms of performance.
@@TinkerWithTools
Can you compare Ridgids R861152B with an 8ah vs Makitas hammer drill 40v?
@@heribertohernandez1320 I’ll put it on the list of ideas I keep.
I’m not a tool genius, by any means, but this explanation sounds legit.
Hopefully TTI will release the stacked lithium batteries soon.
Hopefully we get the announcement from Milwaukee tomorrow.
Nice explanation of volt ddop. Wish TTI Allowed Rigid more power or features to give Milwaukee and Ryobi a run for your monsy.
Thanks Greg!
Tti doesn't control that aspect of ridgid. Emerson does.
And im not sure if you're drunk but ridgid tools are far more powerful than ryobi tools
I owned at one point the DCD996, DCD998, And DCD999 and the 998 is definitely the most power Dewalt drill I have ever owned. However the m18 fuel drill, and flex turbo seem to be the absolute most powerful drill on the market. BUT the Bosch drill surprised the hell out of me, id never own a Bosch tool, but again it did far better than I thought it would have. Keep up the Tinkering.
Thanks. Yeah I have a hard time wanting to buy a power detect drill. I just want them to come out with a new top tier model and make one model for everyone.
I have been wanting Dewalt to thin the herd of drills for years. However the DCD805 looks pretty darn good.
Yeah there are some gems in their lineup it’s just about takes and advanced college degree to decipher their product line up 😂
You aren’t lying lol I’d also would like to see SBD rate their tools like everyone else out there. No more UWO or MWO.
Have you heard anything bad about the Bosch gear boxes being junk?
I would have to go with Ridgid for normal use and save the money. Definitely would buy the Bosch if I was gonna use the crap out of the drill.
I stumbled across your channel and have a couple of comments.
First item is if you can get your hands on the Ridgid 12A battery, would love to see a comparison.
Second item is the Octane batteries. Currently, HomeDepot is selling 3A Octane batteries.
I believe I have every Ridgid battery type except the 12A battery. I have 1.5A (which is about 10y old and still going stong), the Octane 3A and 6A, and all the 2A, 4A, and 6A variations.
As you stated at the end, chose the right battery for the job.
The 12ah battery is available here but I am not sure if I will be getting it. While it might provide a power bump on the tool, at some point I feel the size of the battery becomes counter productive due to the increased weight. That’s just my opinion obviously. As for the octane batteries, while those batteries would be new to me, they are not newly produced batteries but instead old stock. That’s my reason for not buying them now. In essence without an octane tool it would just be a battery with 21700 cells which we already have in the 8ah. If you have them and they work, then great but that’s what kept me from buying “new” octane batteries.
That new Bosch is a beast. Bosch finally got into the power game.
Yeah the last one was not the most impressive.
@@TinkerWithTools are you referring to the 975 or 755
Bosch now uses their drills torque numbers as model numbers : gsb 755, gsb 975 ,1330 etc.
@@robertcasey3528 975. Same size not nearly as powerful
@@TinkerWithTools still a good drill. I have that model.
For 95% of us, the 800 ft. lb. hammer drill does the job fairly easily. With 1250 ft. lbs. it's becoming a meaningless numbers game, like with wattage in stereos. And with wattage, more doesn't necessarily mean louder. But with that said, if one absolutely has to have 1250 to say "mine's better" then the Black Friday HD of this hammer drill paired with a 1/4" impact with the 4 ah and 6 ah plus charger and a hard storage case PLUS TWO FREE TOOLS for $379 is a very good deal! I'd choose the 8 ah (just so I can say I have one) and 1/2" sub compact impact rated at 250 ft. lb. breakaway for my freebies.
The ridgid black friday sales seems to be a popular choice this holiday season. You aren't the first person to mention that deal.
Home Depot has now lowered the price of that Ridgid combo kit to $359 across most markets, and I just picked one up in CT for $342 in store with the 2 free tools. I returned both free tools, thereby hacking the deal down to $166 for the Ridgid High Torque Hammer Drill / 4 mode Impact Driver combo.
It's now the 3rd week of January 2024 and that's the cheapest I've seen this combo for.
I believe it might go slightly cheaper next week in their effort to get rid of the last combo sets they have leftover from the Holidays with the cost of the kit possibly going as low as $329.
If you're in the market for that combo, keep your eyes open for that price around 1/25 - 1/28.
I wish the xgt was in the line up lol awesome video brother 🙌🔥
Thanks! I’ll be doing more testing. Decided just to keep it at the 18v class
My dude fell in love. XGT’s where it’s at B. Awesome tools
That Bosch sent that Switchblade didn’t it?😂😂. Suprised me
Yeah. I wasn’t expecting it.
Bosch drill has the highest amount of soft torque among all cordless drills. That's what they mean by the strongest drill claim.
It seemed to show it today. It’s not the fastest always and it’s big but it’s very strong.
The metabo hpt drill is kind of like that the dv36da but it’s a beast fs also the new one hikoki released is supposed to be really good the dv36dc is the model number and it’s only available on the JDM atm but u can get em on eBay for high dollar prices but you can get em
The 6ah m18 is the best ime…I think if the 24 36 and 40v compete it should just be 4AH max and 18v 8ah all right near 90-110 watt hour
I’m going to test against some of the higher voltage tools in the future.
Slight difference between battaries. Not enough to buy 8 ah at $179 compared to buying a kit of 4 ah and 6 ah plus charger and bag for the same price. Plus with the smaller batteries come less weight. With the big battery is just that, big and heavy! Bosch rocked all but on a Black Friday special, Flex is best!
I think it comes down to use case. There are tasks where the 8ah battery will let the drill complete a task where the others for fail. For the vast majority of individuals they will never meet a task like that.
When it comes to which drill is best, the great thing is that there are so many great options.
Have rigid bring the oil impulse silent force impact drill please
I would love to see lots of brands develop this tech further. Ridgid and Ryobi both use to have one. Makita has one in need of a refresh and although I think the surge is still great I hope we get a gen 2.
Hi, will you be testing the new Ridgid impact against the big names too? Thanks.
Yes.
The 3ah octane battery has 21700 cells. It's the only other Ridgid battery until that 8ah came out that had the bigger. cells
Yes, you are right. Unfortunately that battery has been discontinued. I like the form factor of the single row 21700 cell batteries.
I'm pretty sure a direct tools factory outlet still has them. It most likely be a refurbished one but when they have sales their prices are really cheap and they're worth it.
They do have them occasionally and you can buy them on Amazon or ebay as well. With Direct Tools, they don't often ship their more desirable items and I don't have one near me. With amazon on ebay, I sometimes worry about purchasing batteries that haven't been actually produced in a while and wondering if I am going to get what I actually want.
@@TinkerWithTools Yeah there's no direct tools near me either and I heard they take a while to ship. I use Amazon and eBay both. I think I trust eBay a little more when it's someone who has actual pictures and the box it came in. Amazon's getting notorious for knock-offs
While I'm sure you get more power and longer duration of amp draw thus providing more spec'd power longer, the weight disproportionately is now bottom heavy. And off sets the weight of the motor housing when having to drill any hole that isn't strait up and down. Thus leaving now more room for fatigue of your hands.
The weight is a factor. That’s why I talked about choose the right battery for the right job. There isn’t a whole lot of point to an 8ah battery for a single 2” deck screw but when doing demanding jobs it makes a lot of sense. Overall the Ridgid isn’t a bad size in my opinion.
Techrep, I wish Ridgid and Milwaukee would make a 21700 cell battery that didn’t weigh as much as the tool itself.
Hopefully they will release the stacked lithium batteries soon like they said they would.
@@DiligentDave1966 it would be nice. I have some 3amp octane batteries I found new on sale at home Depot that are 21700 cells. And I bought all I could find before they were gone. The part that is annoying is Ridgid is owned by Milwaukee and they have pissing matches with each other. So when Ridgid octane tools out did Milwaukee tools. The high torque impact wrench for example. Milwaukee got their feelings hurt and nerfed the Ridgid line when they came out with the new "brushless" line that is the current models. What Milwaukee fails to realize is that no one is switching battery platforms for 10-15% better specs either way from one brand to the other. I'm team orange and not switching to Milwaukee for better torque just because the new high torque impact wrench is less power than the octane model. So we the consume get screwed.
As far as the weight distribution goes I don't use anything more than a 3 amp hour battery on an impact driver or the subcompact impact wrench I have. A drill I will use a four or six amp hr. To balance the weight between battery and motor housing.
It would be nice to have the pouch cells like the DeWalt power stack but for Ridgid. Smaller case less weight. Lower amp hr rating sure but higher amp draws for longer can be achieved. Thus having closer to rated power for longer durations
I just bough the Ridgid hammer drill. It's heavy with just the 4aH battery.@@TinkerWithTools
I been looking for info on the 8ah
Voltage = Volts
Power = Watts
Energy = WattxHours
Sorry I'm picking on terminology 🤣
hmm do i splurge for the 8ah or get an impact for my car (bogo deals)
Tough call. If you don’t already have an impact I would go that route but if you have one you can use the 8 ah really unlocks the drill.
Why dont they just make 21700 cells and ditch the 18650’s?
I think it comes down to cost and what's needed for the person using the tool. Not everyone is going to require the utmost power at all times... so they can save a buck and make a cheaper battery. As a user I can have other batteries for less demanding jobs for cheaper.
What do you think about the Ridgid compared with the Dewalt 998 and 999?
DEWALT has better feel and ergonomics that the Ridgid. Ridgid has anti kickback. On the 8 the Ridgid feels good but at less it will likely get beat by the DEWALT.
@@TinkerWithTools I appreciate your opinion. Tools With SOALZ recommends Ridgid, but he’s a little biased lol.
Ridgid does have a fantastic warranty, and there’s a really good Black Friday deal on it.
Neither one is bad but I also think that any drill you buy will have something that you don’t like. That’s almost inevitable. Waiting to find the absolute perfect one might not happen.
@@TinkerWithTools The 8 amp battery is one of the “free” options with the purchase of the Ridgid combo.
That truly makes my choice even more difficult lol.
@DiligentDave1966 what did you go with? I usually go with the best tool in the platform I want to use consistently.. which in my case is ridgid.. just because why buy a tool 5 times because the warranty is only good for 3 years or whatever..I just sold my 10 year old ridgid drill driver combo for 80$ and bought a 250$ new ridgid kit both brushless with new batteries.. only downfall in my opinion is the shitty charger(I don't see it lasting with the thin power cord)
"Only 18v batteries" - then whips out a 60v DeWalt Flexvolt. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a 18v battery when used with that tool.
Don't get me wrong, I love your videos. But DeWalt makes batteries with 21700 cells that would be a better apples to apples comparison. Because now you have multiple cell types (18650 and 21700), with varying amounts of cells in each battery. At that point, you could slap a Powerstack on it and still call it a 18v/20v battery and it be "fair" in this test.
@@coolcube1929 yeah. I don’t have the 21700 cell DEWALT batteries so this was the best I came up with for the test.
Understandable. You still have my subscription, it's much easier to be the critic when you're not the one doing the work. 😉 Next test, it would be cool to see the "best" battery each brand has, regardless of chemistry/cell size. DeWalt Powerstack/Flexvolt, Flex Stacked Lithium, Milwaukee high output, etc. Thanks for what you do!
@@coolcube1929 thanks for the support. I have some other stuff in the works that will look to do that.
did you watch toolz with no brains live where he is testing the makita 40v drill and bashing makita as usual?
I haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing but I have looked at some it. not everyone likes every tool. The Makita XGT has performed well for me and it's one of my favorite drills but that doesn't mean it's the best drill for every test.
Tools with no brains 😭😭 is that Soalz you mean? 🤣🤣🤣
@@TinkerWithTools I didn't expect any other reply from you sir 😉 way to stay neutral..
I don't own any Makita tools but I'd like to get my hands on their 40v drill and impact driver and other tools . Why would anyone bash Makita?
@@robertcasey3528 🤣🤣🤣