Supercharging is the Tesla trump card. So why has Musk FIRED the entire team?
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- I don't get it. Why has Elon Musk fired the entire business division responsible for superchargers? The Tesla Supercharger network is why so many people Just Get A Tesla rather than any other EV. In the US, the Tesla connector has won the format war, with growing numbers of legacy manufacturers adopting it.
But it appears that the Lord Elon of Musk has ben spooked by a slowdown in sales in China, and is making big cuts to the workforce. I get that, but I don't get why he would fire the entire Supercharging team???
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You’re spot on. One of the main reasons I got my first Tesla 4 years ago, and upgraded to a Model Y just a month ago, was partly due to the fantastic charging network Tesla has.
I can remember writing - in the Tesla motors club forum IIRC - several years ago that I didn’t think even Tesla themselves actually fully appreciated just how much the supercharger network is valued by the user base when compared with the shambles of plugs, RFIDs, apps, card readers etc - ie. the rest.
Way past time for him to go and grow flowers or play bowls then we can remember him as the one who jumpstarted the energy transition instead of the nutter who destroyed it.
I have to think you’re right! It’s now Saturday morning in the US and every TH-camr is scratching their collective heads. I have to sit on the sidelines now until the proverbial dust settles. Wow!
How can it be Saturday morning in the US? You are behind us, and it's still Friday in the UK 😀
😂 Must be COVID brain!
Spot on, so refreshing to hear a Tesla fan not scrambling to defend this poor decision. It was no doubt a decision made with little thought of the consequences meant to send a signal to those who dare to push back within his companies.
U r Not in US! Where r u?
Supercharging WAS the trump card until it opened up to other cars. I watched a woman trying to charge her Audi at a superchager last week. The lead was obviously too short, so instead of trying the available charge place Scotland chargers ( that were working ) she then tried to park side on across 2 bays to try & get charged but failed .This will only get a lot worse as more & more people take up EV's and more superchargers get opened up.
But how will they open more superchargers to all, when the team that would control this is in the US equivalent of the dole queue
look at the second hand market. People are not going to be taking up EV, they're going to go the way of the dodo in under 20 years and be nothing more than a footnote...just like 100 years ago. Funny 100 years ago spanish flu, just like the 'vid, and now electric cars following the same path again. So many things are repeating right now it's insane.
@@neilfennell6833They already did it, opened them all up it seems.
The biggest question is has he fired the whole team, or is this just a headline?? Has he moved them to another team?
I do also wonder how many super charger teams are working for Tesla in the world. It may well be that he will be creating something new and more relevant as Tesla are starting to sell their chargers to othercompanies. So, maybe Tesla will be moving to providing them, having built up to the level they have.
Now it is wait and see....
Not the entire team as the headline wants you to believe. The lady was head of the new development team didn’t deliver what she promised years ago, so she and her team was dismissed.
@@niniclzz9459 Thanks, this is what I was thinking, bad headlines trying to make things sound very bad. Saying "he just closed the whole department - but we were 1 of 100" Does not carry the same effect!
I think Elon is stopping a bully boy tactic take over of the super Charge business
In some ways perception is as important as facts. This sort of behaviour can have serious consequences regardless of what is happening on the ground.
@@Wol747 Yes, but for a fast growing company, it’ necessary to trim fat.
I am dismayed at what he’s done here. We’ve got 1 million EVs on UK roads out of 41 million registered. There’s a lot of work to go to keep roadside charging up with demand.
So with the entire team fired, the worst is going to be assumed in terms of public perception: No new superchargers, no maintenance on existing superchargers, and more queueing as time goes by. Regardless of eventual facts, public perception really does matter and that will hurt Tesla car sales.
They’ve killed their golden goose and the other charging providers are a total rip off and they aren’t reliable. I’ve got more reason to buy another car brand next time, and petrol drivers have one less reason to go EV on their next purchase.
It’s a deep shame and I just hope I can continue my Aberdeenshire to West Sussex drives without queueing.
Don’t worry about maintenance - his tweet says more focus on “100% availability”. So the maintenance team are still here. It’s just the people who plan and build and manage the roll out of them
@@justgetateslaHe also said at the same time they are going to concentrate on upgrading / increasing existing sites.
But more slowly
@@justgetatesla actually I believe he said that they would continue rolling out new sites, but more slowly, as they wanted to make sure the up time on existing units was as high as possible , and they want to upgrade, increase number of chargers on their existing sites.
Many over react to the lay-off, they act like the "entire" super charging network has magically disappear. SERIOUSLY!?
I think this is a good opportunity for other players in the industry to step up to meet the demands for Super fast, reliable charging station all over the world. I think BP and Shell has already started to do this.
I agree. The Supercharger network is a key product differentiator. Twitter/X is a reputation-damaging distraction. FSD will be incredible, but it is still in the future. They also need to keep the current show on the road!
I think your rant is good because it demonstrates your frustration over a ridiculous decision. As for the format I really enjoy your videos, I am waiting for the model 2 to arrive. I have a Kia Soul 64Kw which is great, so I would be changing from one EV for another. With the lure being the charging network. Madness, he should have just restructured retaining the knowledge.
Totally agree!!!!
We too in the USA are scratching our heads on this bone head move by elon.
It reminds me of Apple and they culled entire teams. Nobody has thought, that having a separate supercharging team was better than integrating the role with another part of the company. I can see the benefits of merging the supercharger division in to the power division, as they are integrating solar and mega packs into supercharger sites. The uk’s problem is the DNOs when it comes to opening up new sites. I am waiting for a couple of sites that would benefit me, the sites are just waiting for the power to be connected.
Spot on Ian. Absolutely mad move by Musk. Like you, one of the big differentiators in buying a Tesla was the Supercharger network, so where does his decision leave everything going forward 🤷♂️
@rockdj3833 me three... Three years ago my decision was swayed towards a Tesla for this very reason. Before the news about the firings broke I was saying that today that decision would likely be different today, since I can now charge at home and there are cheaper EV options out there... Then this...
Regarding the Superchargers, we’ve got new V4’s where I live which cost me £0.37 per kWh, the equivalent fast charging at Gridserve is £0.79 per kWh!
AS a non Tesla owner I am grateful for the opening up of the Supercharger network but .... The more I use the convenient and cheaper Tesla sites on my long trips the less I need a Tesla vehicle! Elon must have a cunning plan?
I totally agree with you. Wonder how the sales in the future will be like. I guess we have to believe there is a plan behind this.
Hopefully everybody using NACS in the US standardises where charge ports go.
Best case somebody else hires a heap of people from the supercharger team and learns how to do charging right.
have to wonder if tesla would be better off without elon
AGREED
Yes, he should be ousted from his ceo position. This stunt is incompetent lunacy.
It reminds me of Steve Jobs from Apple. He was outed because of his crazy plans. What happens afterwards, Apple went almost bankrupt. The vision was gone. He came back a few years later and it became the most valuable company on earth. Elon will be key for future growth. If you vote against it, I bet you, Tesla will be history in 5 years. The risk is that the Chinese eventually could buy Tesla or they could take over the AI know how. Elon is fully aware of that, that is why he wants 25% control of the company shares. The AI power intelligence of Tesla is completely underestimated. The supercharger network importance, is peanuts against what AI value is for the company. It seems that not many people realise this. It is really scary to believe Musk looses that technology.
You're not alone in scratching your head over this one!!
I agree Ian.
I totally agree with your so called rant, it sounded straight from the heart to me. My wife and I have been doing research on EVs in general and Tesla in particular for months now, and just as we agreed that it would have to be the M3 Highland - this comes along. Really, really don’t know what to make of it…
Still get the Highland - it’s spectacular. And remember that you have access to every charger on every network.
I have my Model 3 RWD highland about a little more than a month now. This car is mind blowing. It is that good. I had the previous Model 3 LR before. It is a big improvement. The Super Chargers are still there. The Tesla GPS still guide you to the chargers, showing how many stalls are free. In the next months it will be possible to reserve a stall, before you arrive, as soon you lock in the charger location you want. The charger will know when you arrive, etc. Tell me what company will remotely provide such kind of solutions.
Well said
Completely agree. It seems completely bonkers.
Luckily you seem to have made next weeks video prior to this upset. Hopefully you may have an update by next weeek 😊
I think something is changing with who pays for the Supercharger rollout, where Elon might be getting other EV manufacturers to help fund the rollout. Every EV manufacturer can use the Superchargers (on paper, in practice soon), so I think there's some bigger going on that we don't yet know about.
I don't think Elon is simply crazy enough to fire the Supercharger team without a good reason. We don't know everything yet about this seemingly crazy event.
In November BP announced it was buying $100 million worth of Tesla superchargers and operating them under BP Pulse. Maybe this is the way Tesla is moving. High margin no bureaucracy
100% agree that the best feature of the Tesla range is the charging network 🤷🏼♂️
Hi Ian, the same as you, I was seriously looking at a Kia EV6 before buying a model 3. The two reasons I went for the Tesla was.
1. Tesla offered better value in terms of purchase price and finance at the time of purchase.
2. The Tesla Superchargers.
After spending a lot of time researching EVs, it was the avaliblity of reliable, ease of use changing was the lynch pin for me.
So after this week's news, I am now getting concerned for the future... I guess time will tell
Go Elon!👍⚡️
Many of the buyers in the target market for Tesla were people basically riding the zero interest economic wave which has unfortunately crashed on the shore so profit and loss realities have set in.
Tesla make more gross profit from building cars than any of the legacy manufacturers- at least in EVs. So it’s not about the P&L. This is the Lord Elon on “Beast” mode.
Anyone else think that the UK Government has abdicated far too much responsibility to the marketplace for EV charging and standards?
I totally agree with you. I highly doubt that team was doing a terrible job.
Something else isn't being talked about and it's techs being let go and yet two new service centers were supposed to be opened up in my area. 1 crew was being built up to replace our current staff or transfer to that service center. Both are scheduled to be SSD Facilities. Our current location is still super busy and worse with less employees to help fix them.
Elsctroverse covers a lot of charging networks.
Rants are OK.
I recently subscribed to tesla to get a lower price when super charging and am happy that more sites are opening. So far have used Larkhall and Heartlands. ATM there are only a few sites open in Scotland, though Perth has just opened. There is nothing between Larkhall and Manchester or NE England .
It also annoys me when people block 2 chargers, but as you say the type 4s should be OK for most cars.
"Increacingly flawlessly" 🤔?
BP is buying $100 million worth of Tesla superchargers that BP will own and operate under BP Pulse . Seems like a better business for Tesla
Just one comment about "nobody built using gigacastings". While that's true for castings, the modular approach was very much done and an example from the 60's is the humble Mini. Front and rear subframes, each fully mounting the suspension and running gear. Two pipes front to rear connected the hydrolastic suspension components which were then filled with fluid and pressurised. The rest of the body was just a monocoque.
I had a Mk6 Mini - I know all about the (rusting) subframes - sadly! Was still a lot of parts though, just a separate sub assembly
@@justgetatesla My mum had early mini's, 1960's. I had an Austin 1300, very similar in the subframe department and free rust included too. ;)
Parallel to this…. What is Volkswagen doing pertaining to charging stations in relation to the settlement from dieselgate in the U.S.?
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Loved your rant! Maybe he just see the Tesla as it does not make enough money…
Love Tesla's! I'm a Kia E Niro driver, and I charge at home almost exclusively. The whole Tesla SC Network always seemed to good to be true to me.
I agree 200 percent with you. We love your video that provide view of your Scotland. Going back to your question, we leave in Quebec City Canada. Hydro Quebec provide a reliable charging network. But if we go to the US, that's adventure because of different access charger. We have heard Oil compagnies are in a process of acquiring chargers networks and in our province they are trying to make believe the private sector is better suited to expand it in the future. So, my question is: Does Musk will sale his charger network to an Oil company?
I do not think the Tesla supercharger network will be up for sale any time soon, for several reasons:
- if Jesus Musk believes in a transition off of fossil fuels and onto sustainable energy sources, I think he is very cynical of oil companies' intentions
- Tesla sells vehicles, but as long as it has the trump card of a reliable charging network that nobody to date has been able to rival, selling the charging network would mean the market for their cars shrank and without any other meaningful differentiators of their cars they are now just as good as anybody else selling EVs, and they would quickly start losing market share of EVs
Nothing is impossible. Four years ago few thought that a virus pandemic would have such wide-spread consequences, so we now know there are things like unknown unknowns, and we do not discount any possibilities. Is a sale possible? Yes. Is a sale likely? IMHO no
IMO, they're planning on franchising the network, and outsourcing the charging module manufacturing - while collecting royalties from the use of the supercharger software.
Superchargers, a silly name for a rapid charger, face an awful lot of competition here in tthe UK and Europe. Thanks to CCS2, a proper open standard, there are loads of competing suppliers. Furthermore all new chargers must offer contactless payment, the default method for small purchases nowadays. Actually the Skoda Enyaq outperforms the Model Y on most benchmarks.
The trouble is: They aren’t competing. I’m seeing 34p/kWh at supercharger sites vs 79p at other providers. There’s no contest here. You use the other providers only when they are the last resort.
The problem with non-Tesla chargers is the price (very high), the speed (slow) and the lack of maintenance
Elon used Tesla AI to write a letter to fire the CyberTruck team and the rest is history.
Unless there is some grand strategy of which we are unaware, this is complete madness. I have been a Tesla driver and fan boy since 2018 and thought the company was going from strength to strength, but this decision throws away the trump card and the main reason to drive a Tesla. I can’t image how difficult it will be to charge on a road trips in a year or two with little or no expansion of the supercharger network. People like me who travel a lot for work will have to return to an ICE car - absolutely crazy!!!
Wrong.. learn about facts correct the plan is exactly what he said WHy he is doing that..
Crazy. I also think it’s crazy to open up the Tesla network. There is a reason you buy a Tesla, now we have people with cars that are not really that compatible taking up spaces. You want to use the supercharger network then get a Tesla. I’ve always viewed the Tesla as the iPhone of the road; now it’s become and Android and things are not as smooth as they were.
If Musk continues with his lunacy they will soon become the Nokia of EV's
I don't get it either the USP of Tesla is the charging network, would it put me of getting a Tesla here in the UK not yet but it could do depends what happens next
Maybe in the short term the ‘Supercharger Team’ are surplus to requirements. That the network (now up and running) has little need for expansion (again in short term) and can effectively be managed by AI? Let’s be reasonable here, Elon is by no means a fool! His achievements to date would be proudly displayed on anyones CV.
The wheels are coming off Tesla just like the rest of the battery car industry because the few that want them have them while the rest of us are not interested.
Yes. Best selling car in the world = nobody interested. Asshat
Finally someone talking the truth, I have seen many other youtubers doing crazy mental gymnastics to defend Elon Musk and Tesla for this stupid move.
i suggest watching some Common Sense Skeptics and Thunderf00t.
It would be much better if Elon had stepped on the toes of the windscreen wiper team
Oh hell yes
I agree. This is one of the most concerning things Elon has done. Australia needs a lot more chargers and I don’t know where these are going to come from now.
Have they fired the UK charger teams?
It's obvious to me. His stated plan is to make his Cybercabs so cheap it won't be worth owning a car at all. These could be either self-charging hybrids or charged from his own network. Why would he want to encourage other people to have cars?
I am surprise it took him this long to fire them. He has the technology developed and he sees the EV market starting to shrink as these 'niche' vehicles appear to be reaching a stasis point regarding sales. He knows that should the market start to improve exponentially (possible but doubtful) he can always jack up supercharging teams etc. Elton knows that supply and demand is the one thing even he cannot buck.
The market isn’t shrinking though. The slowdown in EV sales was *less* than the slowdown in fuel vehicles…
US EV sales are indeed falling off more than ICE cars. We see thru the EV BS . Tesla is falling apart .
I agree with you don’t know what he’s thinking
I have not been able so far to find out more about the least known Giga factory of them all, Giga Buffalo (the closest to me physically and relevant here as that is where the majority of the supercharger hardware is being produced). I know there were layoffs there, but don't know how many, or what the plans at that location are. Perhaps as with many other Tesla things, the process was automated to the point that hoomins are no longer needed in the numbers the factory had, and now a machine is able to build this machine. Perhaps they are still ramping up production volumes.
The graphic of the EVSE types at 10:40 is not at all to scale. The evse labeled NACS has been standardized as Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) J3400. The J3400 connector is much smaller, more elegant, and much more maneuverable thanks to a smaller plug and a reduced-diameter cable. The J3400 was to be the standard that would unify North American charging stations and ports on cars. I say "was" because Elon Musk's hissy fit has made all this potential progress open for question. Seems to me that Musk wants his name to be spit out of the mouth in the same way that many Americans expectorate the word Trump.
To be fair I’ve never seen one so don’t know how big it is
The superchargers at Fleet services have been there for years (i guess 5 now?) And have never been operational when I have driven through......
I can think of other sites installed but not live. Not Tesla’s fault, it’s power supply problems
@@justgetatesla at one time I was desperate to get a tesla, but now I will never touch one. Musk just lies and lies and lies. FSD was supposed to be finished in 2017, he demoed it in a vid to customers which turned out to be completely staged. Then there was his 'convoy technology' for the truck inn 2019 which again he said he could do today, but still no sign. Taking tesla private and shafting every investor....oh that was a lie too. Then robo taxis, a million of FSD taxis by 2020.....well its 2024 and there is not even one. A larger battery which he has now backtracked on as being 'unnecessary' after realising how stupid his comment about enlarging its capacity would make it three times bigger than the car. Then there is the cybertruck he built because it was 'cool' which will now most likely sink the company.
Nothing will convince me to ever buy one now.
However, i think it is great that you like them and enjoy driving one. (please don't think i am just a musk hater, its just not for me anymore). Its good to see channels like yours promoting something you are passionate about 😉
I don’t agree with all of that negativity, but I have plenty to aim at Musk specifically despite me thinking him a genius.
Nuts
The supercharger scheme was the carrot. It was an unsustainable incentive use to create critical mass adoption and purchasing of Tesla vehicles.
Another great video Ian I do like getting up early to watch your videos on a Saturday morning mate Elon is going to ruin Tesla if he keeps sacking people that make Tesla so good 😡
The only way I can square this decision, is that because of the “slowdown” of the rollout and that they are so advanced in their planning (because of being such an efficient organisation) they don’t need to carry the dead weight on the payroll. The lag in buildout is probably caused by the Grid connection provider as in the UK. Watching a Fully Charged episode the other day, where Gridserve applied for a connection for a new site and got a connection date of 2038!!!! WTF!? If this is repeated globally I can see where the issue lies.
2038????? 🫣
@@justgetatesla yeah, been trying to find it again for you, but failed. It’s the sort of figure that sticks in your head though.
@@justgetatesla I did find the conversation with Lorna McAtear from national grid saying they’ve had grid connection requests for 600GW which is over 500GW more than we actually need …….. so that might slow things down a little ! 🤷🏼♂️
Elon has become such a disappointment. Megalomaniac syndrome
Totally agree with you. Incredibly foolish thing to do. Maybe Tesla can find a way of firing Elon..... he's now a liability.
Unfortunately, that’s how Elon is. If anyone in the company doesn’t obey his order, things like this could happen. Like it or not, that’s how he pushed this company to achieve something no one thought could be done. No, without Elon, you won’t even have a reliable charging station. Look how other EV charging station were maintained? Lol
It's not that surprising to me, lots of charging companies are going bust and laying off workers. It's a tough business model to make a profit on, even with all the subsidies. Most EV owners prefer to charge at home for obvious reasons, sometimes exclusively. So you can never build out a public infrastructure anything like gas stations, and have them all sit empty, waiting for the occasional EV owner who decides to take a road trip in their EV, instead of taking their normal car.
@@user-jb2om7cm8m I totally agree. I’ve been to supercharging network less than 10 times last year. It’s not ideal for daily charge because the fast speed charging is not healthy for the longevity of the battery life. The supercharger station will be expended but with a lower speed. Elon is in the war mold and needs to restructure the company and allocate the resources to FSD as much as he could. Hopefully, it’s allowed in Europe soon. When my mom sit in the car today and experienced v12.3.6 for the first time, she agreed that it did such a good job and she felt comfortable letting it drive. It’s so critical to gather as much data as possible and train as fast as possible. I truly believe it can save lives and should have the priority.
In the US I don’t understand why the utility companies are not jumping into the business of selling electricity to EVs.
I think they are, just in different ways... Many utilities offer ultra low rates per kWh overnight, when most EV owners charge... Keeps them using baseload generating power stations and avoids use of peaker plants.
Now, if they would start rolling out their own rapid charging networks, EV owners would rejoice, especially if those networks were unified under one umbrella like tolls are under EZPass...but if peaker plants were needed to support them, environmentalists would be sad
@@PeterWroblewski-xv9br Yeah that’s what I meant. I’d love to roll up to a SCE DC fast charging station. :-)
@@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMCthe problem is such endeavors require money and willingness. Elon was willing to throw both of those in, realizing that long term there are profits to be made. I do not idolize Lord Elon, but I have to give credit where it is due -- when everyone else was looking short term, he was not. Now investors in things like utilities are demanding profits, and utilities are having an "oh $#!t" moment realizing they missed the boat... Elon was willing to gamble, others were not... Elon is gathering money, utilities are wishing they were as well while they are pulling up their pants... Utilities are in a better position than most to start catching up, but unless someone at the helm wakes up, the divide between Elon and everyone else will keep growing
You know, with an emphasis on robotaxi, cars have to be able to self drive to a supercharger and self plug in. This aspect is fundamental to robotaxi success. Maybe the team was not getting that message and so needed to be replaced in order for robotaxi to be successful?
The Boy-King has gone mad and many Tesla Fans are now mainlining Copium 239. Thank you for an honest appraisal here.
The only reason we purchased Model 3 Highland was due to range and supercharger network. Tesla are selling V4 chargers to other network. Is Elon Musk trying to drop the price of Tesla shares or is he totally mad. I think he wants to buy more shares in Tesla so needs low price. Has he done deal with China to make superchargers.
In one simple move, he has indicated that he gives absolutely no f**ks about the customer base. Sentiment returned Elon!
When your ideology blinds you from reality, you voluntarily live in the matrix.... sweet dreams
I think this is the clearest message that EVs have no future. Elon is a visionary, he probably saw the writing on the wall.
“No future” - don’t be silly
Tried the new V4s on a trip to Glasgow at Larkhall and was so disappointed with them the cable is to heavy and bulky the charging head in massive and hard to use and put back and the button was broken to open the flap and it was slow despite 4hrs driving before. Who ever designed them needed sacking. Elon criticised the v4 design himself so wonder if he rage fired everyone
Wonder if they are starting to run into physics issues now. E.g. larger currents requiring heavy wires and cooling.
The oxymoron of supervised fsd. The house of cards is crumbling
Maybe he is looking to sell the charging network?
Who knows?
There must be a reason and I think you may have it. I also think the network could be out for sale or contract .
@@johnbird1385If that happens and a purchaser sets the price at the same ripoff as everyone else, that's the defining moment when Tesla have no value apart from other vehicles. None.
I think sometimes Tesla has not been keeping up. The nearest Motorway service station to me has just had 22 180kw and 2 150kw (?????) Applegreen Rapid Chargers Installed. Tesla Supercharging has a hole in the ground, and no Superchargers yet. My local shopping mal has two old V2 superchargers that are always in use and only give about 60kw because the power is shared. The local Service centre had most of their Superchargers out if action for months because they were damaged by a major accident.
Anyone seen Sandy Munro’s video? He has the opposite take to me. Though similar levels of passion!
Absolutely agree with everything you said the Head of the department pushback Elon did not like it talent is hard to come by he just cast it aside overnight short-sighted obviously you have to do things when you own a big company but there are ways of going about it so it doesn't impact the company too much whole
He is visionary and he recognizes that the expenditure on supercharger will not produce the increases in sales which would make it worthwhile and it won't lose the devotees who will figure out what they have to do to keep their cars running. Therefore, why spend the money?
He IS a visionary. I said that. He’s also increasingly a hard right nut job
Well you have kind of answered your own question. EV chargepoints are going in too slow because of paperwork and not having power to the site. So why pay huge sums to a development team when they may well be twiddling their thumbs for what might be years.
So just keeping a small cheap team looking after paperwork and permitting makes sense. There is also the Shanghai team who now look after supercharger software updates.
So I'm sure when/if they need to jump back in on supercharger development they will grab the latest and best talent available at the time be that 2027 or 2030 or whenever.
Will all those people be on big salaries in California or Texas? Probably not, they will be in China and we will have no idea how big the team will be and how or when they hire or fire.
So I suspect for most users they wont see any change. They have the most reliable chargers and new sites and upgraded sites will continue to pop up.
If that is the plan then great! That doesn’t sound like what he has announced. Similarly the tweets about firing managers who don’t fire enough people. That suggests a major cash flow crisis. Don’t create the crisis, react subtly to it and win. This is losing
@@justgetatesla One thing that is different is Elon doesn't care about bad publicity. If the data suggests the charger market has slowed down in a long-term way and he is happy with the current chargers then let's cut out that cost and cull the team. He also killed off most of the original model S&X development team and stated fresh with model 3, so it's not exactly new. Pretty much nobody is safe at Tesla and you would think he would find recruitment hard, but no, everybody wants to ride the Tesla wave and get it on their CV.
Hi Ian - I am wondering if they are looking at wireless charging or something a bit better... I don't know, I just can't see the logic of his actions & I am a huge fan of Elon.
I don't care how you stream your videos Ian - happy to listen to you however.
Millions of cars which need a cable, none which are wireless. Makes no sense to me.
I explained it in an another post. Tesla will spend this year alone about 10 billion $ AI computing, to create the Robotaxi network and autonomous driving Tesla cars. Their car business will not grow this year. If they don't cut cost in 2024, they will loose money, if they don't make Tesla more efficient in 2024. I expect they will invest again heavily in Supercharging by the end of 2025. By that time Humanoid Robots will do some of the work in the car factories. They need to make EV's cheaper or the China will rule the world in EV's.
Spot on. Deserved rant and fully agree w/ you. Typical "demon mode" grumpy arbitrary pissed Elon, doing decision out of short-sighted emotion (even if strategy might have long-term correct reason), it was implemented in exactly the worst way. sigh.
Elon is thinking about an FSD future where most people don’t own cars and merely summon a car when needed. In his mind superchargers are yesterday’s technology, hence the shift in focus. This would appear complete lunacy to the average person. We know the guy has his flaws but looking at his technical achievements, would you bet against him?
I literally came to the comment section to make this point. Superchargers are irrelevant when you have robo taxis.
For road trips, I think you'll want your own car (owned or rented), and the ability to fast charge, rather than taking everything out of the car and putting it back in at accommodations, or when eating, or when stopped for an activity. Besides, even if you used a robotaxi for a long trip, how does that reduce the need for fast chargers?
But the biggest point is that FSD appears not close. If he knows months ahead what FSD can do, then he knew months ago that FSD wasn't ready for the free trial. It's not clear that he knows AI. He promised FSD many years ago.
An FSD future is an interesting concept. Let’s assume the technology allows it - that isn’t the same as most first world markets legislating to allow it and then consumers adopting it.
Automation is great - having cars take human error out of driving will save a lot of lives - and money. But that is still a long way away from “imagine no possessions” where you don’t need to own a car at all because you can summon an automated Tesla like an Uber.
Elon Musk is a dreamer who asks why something can’t be done. I love that. But in business you can’t always monetise dreams. You actually need to be rooted in reality because to get to dreamland you first have to sell something today.
And today is all about charging…
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Is now a good time to get a Tesla.?
Still the best car in the world
@@justgetatesla 100%
The 399 deal on a Y is a steal. Show me a better car for that money?
Yeah! Ordering soon!
I sympathize your predicament; not having enough fast charging for every one hurts a bit. I don't know all the reasons why Elon cut the Super charging team, but i have a few theories. Elon isn't loved by everyone in the US. There are people and institutions promoting & funding the Elon and Tesla hate campaign. They are constantly shorting Tesla's stocks too. After many decades of harassments, Why should Tesla continue take on this heavy burden of building super charging network? why can't other industry take over? Tesla has set lots of examples all over the world. All that is needed is to COPY!
Let me ask you, did any other car companies had to build gas stations for their combustibles engine cars and trucks? No! Yet, Tesla had to build the super charging infrastructure/network. Did any of the other companies pitched in? No, in fact, they were hoping he would fail and go bankrupt.
This lay-off is a symbol (a political 🖕) to every car companies and governments who has been and still are giving Elon a hard time every chance they get... yet they need him to continue building the super charging network for them. Why should he? Why should Tesla? Would you?
I'm also disappointed in the US OEM who are pulling back from making EVs to producing plugin Hybrids. And most of those hybrid customers don't even plug their cars in! They're only using gas to fuel their Hybrids.
Anyways, I like your video. 😊
I just sold some tesla shares for the first time. Musk has come up with some reasons but I still cant get behind, why not cut it by (say) 50%, or 75% or whatever. To replace everyone loses an immense amount of inbuilt "soft" knowledge about how to do stuff. I'm very concerned as a shareholder more by this than the sales slowdown.
Do you have any mechanism as a shareholder to petition for an Emergency General Meeting and fire the CEO? Because that’s what needs to happen before more damage is done by him.
@@anthonydyer3939 agreed. He is incompetent as a ceo.
@@David-bl1bt He’s either incompetent or malicious. His game could be to drive down share price in order to buy/be awarded more shares for a given monetary value.
OK are you kidding me? Musk created a car company. It is the first startup car company in about 100 years that survived. EV's even would not exist today, if he didn't do it. It is a CEO which sleeps on the manufacturing floor, to help survive his business. Yes, believe in CEO's that stay with companies for a few years, and leave with a big bonus, even when the company is in a worse state. If Musk is fired as CEO, HE GET NOTHING. Also look at all other automakers, they all have 10 to 100 of Billions of dollars of debt. Tesla has spared 30 Billion at the bank. I would say invest in those other automakers CEO's that manage to drive the company into big looses. And at the mean time, they scale back on EV investments now, because they can't manage to make money out of them. Tesla is the only company that can make money of pure EV's. BYD maybe the exception, but they are hidden subsidised by the China's government.
@@TheVorst I don’t disagree, Musk has achieved a tremendous amount. But that was before the time when he bought Twitter. Since then he hasn’t been focused on Tesla as much as he should have been. But then to go and kill your golden goose as I’ve mentioned before, that’s the last straw! That’s killed customer confidence in the brand. No doubt it’s killed shareholder confidence too.
I think all Tesla owners and most other people who are educated would agree with you m8.
As with. All very clever people they are a little mad
One of the reasons why they should not be in charge
I think you are missing one of Elon’s most scary and yet most revolutionary traits. Clean sweep and then hire the right people for the job, some of which will be from the teams that were fired. This allows him and the management to refocus activity in a more robust direction because people get a bit too comfortable in their jobs, especially when the system is cruising along. Consolidation is a good thing.
Who from the fired teams would go back to working for Lord Elon? Not the kind of people Lord Elon would want to have, unless the goal is to surround oneself with an echo chamber of desperate yesmen... I wouldn't want to work for someone who can potentially fire me in a tantrum, even if I think he is doing God's work... Too much risk IMO
@@PeterWroblewski-xv9br if you read his biography, you would know the ‘yes men’ are exactly who he would fire first. Change is the only way to move forward and us humans don’t like change, as it makes us uncomfortable, so we move carefully with our fear.
@@robertbanks8076my point exactly -- why would anyone who got fired, yes men or not, go back unless they were desperate? And why would Lord Elon hire them back? You are contradicting your own post
Firing the entire Supercharging is disconcerting. But Im hoping to hear a new plan on how it will be taken forward. One assumes he has one.
Please please watch “ Sandy’s take on the Tesla layoffs! “ it a very plausible take on the subject.
I did. I love Sandy! But even his own argument runs into difficulty- if the existing SC cabinets are as good as they can be and there’s no more development work, they’ll soon be as relevant as a BlackBerry
I don't know how the situation looks elsewhere around the globe, but in North America Tesla (thus far) have the only reliable charging network for EVs. I am not surprised that they were able to get as far as having their connector be designated as a standard (J 3400) despite another one being already out there (J 1772), and then to get auto manufacturers in NA to jump over to their side. Their product and their network were viewed as superior ny many.
I do not know what the future holds (otherwise I would not be here), but I see Tesla shifting their focus to licensing their supercharger hardware to even more companies so that theirs is not the only network available to tne EV public. Not sure how prevalent TA is outside of the NE of NA, but they have a very convenient set of locations along highways here. AFAIK they are going to start deploying white-label chargers (like the BP ones) with their own branding in their locations. Makes sense to me, Tesla can't (and shouldn't) be the only network that EV people rely on, for many reasons.
Tesla selling tombstones to other providers is a Good Thing. As is standardisation. And as you lot got stuck with a type 1 plug getting NACS is a Good Thing. Which is why removing the business division responsible is crackers
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The bubble has been bursting for the past 6 months. Did you not see it coming?
Bubble tea?
It’s sheer madness! Elon has lost the plot and it’s only going to get alot worse .
Don’t think having all the chargers named Tesla is a good idea. Tesla better off selling superchargers to companies that will own and operate them under their own name
They are!
Hopefully Elon sees this in time and you save his bacon
I’ve tweeted him, fingers crossed
Have you looked at all the Bad Publicity about his Truck???? Seems along with the exploding batteries and his electric tank, Bankruptcy is in the very near future....IMHO
Well the exploding batteries thing isn’t a thing. It’s FUD. A weaponised lie thrown out to be consumed by people kept ignorant by propaganda. I don’t think there’s anything much you can say about the Truck either. IMHO
He lost it a long time ago. It's just that his supporters didn't want to see it.