How I Cut Saddles In Pipe With a Chop Saw-Descriptive Version
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 เม.ย. 2022
- In this video I show you how I cope pipe using a dry cut chop saw. This method leave you with a really clean joint and is fairly quick to do. I use my SteelMax cold cut saw with a Diablo blade on it.
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I not only want to express my gratitude for this educational video but, moreover to you and your fellow farmers.
You are the backbone of society. 🙏👍💪
Thank you for your hard work.
Thanks for the nice comment! Take care!
Thanks
55 years old and I learn every day! Thanks for sharing a truly great idea! Knowledge passed on is our legacy as blue collar working Americans! Thank you!
Thanks for the comment! I’m glad it was a helpful video.
I second this comment. "Learn something new everyday"!
Me too ... and I'm 65!
Me 3 and I'm 74!
Me 4, and im 42. At this age, people are still pretty hard headed, at least the people I know. I like to learn everyday, but everyone, and i mean just about everyone I know, are stuck thinking they know everything. I dont know if it usually gets worse or better with age. I hope the latter
Excellent: simple, no B.S. or stupid music, much appreciated.
You’re welcome!
Been saddling pipe for 20 years, never heard of this. Beautiful work man 👍🏼
I normally use a little hinged pattern jig and trace it out. Then I cut it with either a torch or a plasma. That or if it is nothing to critical I just eyeball it
Thanks! One more way of doing it.
@@jvmiller1995congratulations, the technique demonstrated in this video is for someone that doesn’t have all those tools available……chopsaw, soapstone, and straight edge only.
@@MrIgottap No shit! A stated the exact thing above. I was not suggesting go buy tools. I having all the tools will still be doing this in the future. I was impressed
I'm an 85 yo newby urban minifarmer learning from guys like you every day.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful! Good luck learning!
I'm always amazed by the ingenuity of farmers. They are some of the brightest people around. Their skills and talent come out of necessity, they need to be mechanics, carpenters, veterinarians, doctors and fabricators. Remember people, without men and women like this young man, we don't eat.
It a great example of self reliance. On a ranch or farm you do everything yourself. Welder mechanic, hvac, plumbing, bricklayer, etc.
And without the truck drivers that haul the crops we dont eat either, along with those that drive the tractors, load it onto trains, bankers that loan the farmers money, used car salesmen that help provide transportation to get to the corn feild to work, and the rest of us that do it so people can eat, mainly the people sitting across the dinner table, just like the farmer. People work for the money, farmers and cops. If they didnt do it someone else would.
Jus saying
Amen !!
Thanks for that comment! Most the time farmers and rancher are too poor to have someone else do it for them so we just end up figuring out how to do it ourselves haha
The work ethic, ingenuity, self-reliance and prudent financial management demonstrated by many country folks makes me think that these are the people we need as politicians and public servants. I know I don't need to say any more than this on the subject.
I've been welding pipe for 22 years and have never seen or heard of this, learned something new today, thank you for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
never learned in school?
@@dolmarf411 Some places in America sperate pipe fitting from pipe welding.
Tradesmen sharing their knowledge never gets old… well done 👏👏👍
Best video I have seen on a simple way to cut a saddle. Well done.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Your chop saw technique is wonderful . That bevel that is created by the chop saw , as you say gives wonderful extra space for the weld material . Good video .
the bevel is already there. its created by the pipe. round pipe, straight cut.
Thanks for the comment! Im glad it was helpful! It’s a good method for saddling pipe.
@@DieselRamcharger That bevel was created by the saw.
@@kirbylee57 lol.
@@LuthiRanchWY you ought to show these boys you can do alot more than a 90 branch by using a base angle and a calculated angle, as opposed to symmetrical cuts.
60 years old, getting back into the passion I chased when I was a young man. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom,priceless. 🇺🇸
Thanks for you comment! Good luck
I am 76 and always try to learn something new. I am impressed young man in what I learned on this video. And I wish you all the best in your farming endeavor.
That’s totally the BEST WAY to cope tubing!! Simple clean and quick 😊
Not really! They make a jig called joint jigger or something like that that used a hole saw. Its very good on thin stock.
@@ChefKevinRiese I wouldn't call the drill pipe he was using thin stock. You watch TV guys use those hole saw cope cutters and they make it look easy. Creative editing. I think they may be the only good way to do angles other than 90 degrees though.
How do you even come to the conclusion this is the best way. It’s cool, really clean. But twice the time as a torch. Also only will work for pipe sitting on a table. Still need a torch for cutting your post.
@@ChefKevinRiese The point to take away is that most people with the ability to weld already have or can justify sending the money on a chop saw. But unless you are welding a lot of round tubing this is the way to go. If you are arguing the absolute easiest way you can think of and money is not of factor then the easiest would be a 4 axis CNC plasma.
I never said anything about this being the best and only way to saddle pipe. It has its limitations. It would be hard to do if you are trying to fit up any joint other than ones at 90 degrees and you would have to figure out different angles if you are trying to join pipe of different diameters. It’s another way to do something and I believe in having more than one way to skin a cat. I would argue though that it makes the prettiest and best fit up
The angle iron marking tip is gold as well. Thumbs up on this video
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
This video shows just what TH-cam can excel at. Brilliant idea. Simple execution. Professionally presented with no waffle. Two thumbs up!
Thanks for that comment
This is epic. Ive coped pipe for year and years. I first started coping with a torch, then moved on to using a plasma. Today ive traded those both in for a chop saw.
One tip i have if your using seamed pipe is using the factory seam as the straight line for your copes. If using DOM tubing or anything without a seam your way is how i do it too.
Thanks for the advice! I’ll have to look for that seem
This is exactly what I do all the time, too ✌️
That seam is a perfect help for aligning!
I'm 58 yrs old, and this seems like it should be taught in elementary school it's so basic !!!
Thanks for sharing 🙏 it... God bless and getter done !!!
Never had a reason to saddle pipe, yet always saw them and wondered how they're done.
Rock on country boy !
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Well done. Thanks for sharing. Good to see you judging things “by eye”. As a tradesman fitter I was initially trapped in the idea that we had to use special mathematical methods and measuring equipment to do certain operations. This slowed me down and caused stress. When I eventually realised that my work would mostly be judged by others “by eye”, I began to use my own “by eye” judgement more. I think this helped me work faster and things became more relaxed and enjoyable. Best wishes from New Zealand.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful. What part of New Zealand are you from? I did a walk about there about 10 years ago, beautiful country!
@@LuthiRanchWY I'm from Nelson at the northern end of the South Island. You've got a beautiful and interesting country yourself.
@@StephenCooteNZ I’ve been to Nelson! I passed through there on my way down to backpack in Nelson Lakes National Park. I’m pretty sure I watched an All Blacks rugby World Cup game there. They had set up a big projector in the city park or somewhere like that and watched it with the whole town it felt like haha
@@LuthiRanchWY Small world !. My great-grandparents on my father's side (the Blechynden family) used to own a lot of the flatter land around Lake Rotoiti in the Nelson Lakes National Park. I remember an uncle telling me that they sold it to the Parks Board for ten shillings (about $1) per acre. That same uncle had a small cabin near the lake. I stayed there with him a couple of times and we reloaded ammunition and went hunting in Big Bush on the low hills behind his cabin. I saw him shoot a big red deer with one shot from an old Winchester .32-20 within walking distance of his cabin. Interestingly, your physical appearance reminds me of that Uncle's son.
@@StephenCooteNZ It would be a nice place for a cabin! I want to bring my wife back to New Zealand with me one of these years and try and see some more of the sights maybe do some fishing.
Very slick!...30 plus years under the hood and never seen this method. Thank you for your time and efforts to bring us this video. God bless and be safe.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful!
Omg I was today years old when I discovered this amazing trick.... BRAVO 👏 👏 👏 A+
Haha I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Today years old maybe there’s someone else Who is today years old watching that can learn
@@LuthiRanchWYdoes the 32° cut work for any diameter pipe?
@@Justin_Tj it does as long as the 2 pieces that you are joining are the same diameter.
@@LuthiRanchWYbest tip I’ve seen yet. Thank you sir
I was watching this video and then my neighbour came and we watched it together. He said that this video changed his life and touched his heart. I then went and rented a projector in a big field and all my villagers watched it and it changed their lives too. We all are so grateful.
Thank you for this video!
Northern Virginia is not village
Haha well I’m glad it helped somebody out even if it wasn’t a whole village
Great instructional video, thanks for your time and for not dragging this out into a 30 minute video.
Glad it was helpful!
BEAUTIFUL instructions for setup!
For those wondering where the angle comes from:
it's just a number that works well for this diameter and thickness...
The angle will be about 25 degrees for this case: 10cm diameter, 3 cm wall thickness
It's just a number that works for the dimensions he's using
This is a tradeoff between 1/ approximating the outer diameter of the tube, with the inner curve of the cut (which is an ellipse , project in the right plane)
2/ the amount of grinding he's doing at 5:05
3/ the geometry that's he comfortable welding (shape / size of the chamfer)
There is no formula for this
The only case that fits perfectly with no grinding, is : thickness of the wall = 0, angle = 45 degrees.
This is just a mathematical problem equivalent to approximating a circle arc with an ellipse arc of different radii, and center, this is not trivial.
Now dude, you just took a great idea for the common man that likes to fix stuff or build stuff and put a Sheldon Cooper remark to it. Just say "it's a pretty cool trick" and thank the man for sharing it.
@@brucehayes5111
I appreciate the OP's technical remarks. In fact, I wonder if there is in fact a universal formula that can be used for all (or most) common pipe sizes and wall thicknesses, which can then be used to make a table for quick reference. Or, for simplicity, disregard wall thickness and expect grinding in all cases.
The common man may not be aware of geometry and the different angles required for different diameters of pipes, and simply following this video's 32⁰ - 33⁰ cut for any and all sizes can result in disaster. Those who don't like additional information can simply ignore it. At the least, be aware that one angle doesn't fit all.
I thank the channel for the great tip and clear video, and the OP for the additional information.
Yeah, that's like saying, 3-4-5 are just numbers that work for a square. No math or anything. They are just numbers that work🤣🤣🤣
@@liuj88 This has only just come up on my feed, so I have not had time to give it much thought, but I'm pretty sure that a good mathematician could derive a formula that could be applied to any pipe of any diameters(s) and angles. There will be a linear geometrical relationship between the variables and therefore they can be represented mathematically. Just like the tables of "Bend Allowances" cater for all angles, radii and sheet thickness.
Y'all be rocket scientist? Lol
What a wicked, simple little tip, great stuff! Can't wait to give this a try. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Best quick cope job I've seen. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this great tip and product information.
Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us. Great work!
Glad it was helpful!
great ingenuity, Even at age 74 there is always new tricks to learn. We need more people like yourself in this country
Thanks! I appreciate that comment!
Thank you for sharing this process of a saddle cut. Looking forward to more
Good ol’ boy wisdom. I love it. Thanks for your efforts.
It looks a bloody good way of doing it to me and I'm definitely impressed with that blade as well
I can’t recommend these dry cut chop saws enough.
Necessity is the mother of invention. I've cut a few saddles myself, but always used a torch. This is far superior and faster. I love watching videos when people like you show easy methods which makes the task completed in a workmanship manner and fast.
Thanks for the comment!
Wow! Simple, elegant solution! Thanks for sharing.
Looks super clean.
Works great ! I am about to start a bunch of fencing and this came at the right time. Thank you for making the video
Glad it helped
Interesting to see that the straight cut conforms perfectly to a curved pipe OD.
brilliant. Makes a beautiful cope joint.
old time welder here.. most excellent done with torch for years.
nice video, clear and concise, very helpful.
Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. I tried it and it works. Way better than the "right way" I was taught. Thanks for the tip.
Great to hear! I’m glad it was helpful!
Great way to cut the pipe joint. Easy and simple, thanks for sharing your tip.
Awesome, short, and sweet
It looks like a clean cut saddle! I wish I had saw this when I started my feedline. I finally ended up using some sleeves from Macksteel that slide over your pipe and make a perfect saddle. They have been great! And they saved me hours of cutting
I’ve thought about sleeves before. Do you remember what they cost?
@Luthi Ranch I don't remember exactly, but I think it was well under $10 a piece last time. I'd have to call in and get an update to be sure though.
I don't leave a lot of comments, but this was actually a really good video. Great job! Very impressive.
I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting
Thank you for sharing your method, when the time comes this is the way I'll be using.
Clean joint! Love it.
Dang feller! That's a pretty slick trick. And the saw is right on time too! I don't have to cope pipe much but this is the only way to do it in my opinion. I have a Makita chop saw that's about 16 years old and about on its last leg. It's been a goodun! Gonna get the saw and the Diablo blade this weekend. Thank you sir for the video.
I think you know, but in case you dont, it's spelled "fellow", not "feller". A feller cuts down trees. And "goodun" is spelled "gooden."
@@kirbylee57 you're right,I do know but what you don't know is that I'm from Tennessee and that's how we roll round here feller!
I’m glad the video was helpful. I hope you like your new saw!
Good work. I've used this method before and it's a great alternative if you don't have a oxy rig, plasma or tubing notcher (working with DOM tubing etc.). Like you've said, there are other faster methods but not everyone has those options but the job was still done.
Thanks for the comment!
Perfectly described and illustrated.
Thank you I learn something every day.👍
Terrific video and very interesting commentary. I'm a sole proprietor handyman with multiple skills, a college education, and good high school math education. I figure things out myself and this man did a real good job of figuring it out. Nothing replaces basic intelligence, willingness, and effort, but acquiring mathematical knowledge related to the task will always help in new projects.
Thanks for the nice comment
Thanks for sharing the nice video.
Thank you for posting this video! In the future I want to make a handrail for my staircase outback in my backyard.
I have been thinking about how I was going to do the vertical support rails - and now I do thanks to you.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the comment! Good luck with your hand rail!
Absolutely amazing video. Thanks for sharing!!
You are a smart guy. Thanks for the idea.
What a great way to get this done with simple tools! Great video 💪
Thanks!
Couple ideas (now that this vid is 8 months old as I'm seeing it) for ya...
The channel iron on the pipe is a great idea for sure. Once you make the first cut, use a torpedo level to square up the now cut side to ready the uncut side to be cut. You can also use a speedsquare or combination square to mark the base of the saw in reference to the point you've now made, so when you flip it, you can line up your chalk mark on the bottom with that mark and it'll tell you that you're in the right place. Torp level on the already cut end should also give you reference to the opposite end with the chalk mark up....
Just thinking out loud ... haven't tried it but in my mind that should be a couple quick and easy ways...
Nice short vid with a LOT of information ... I'll def have to check out your other vids...
Thanks for watching and I’m glad it was helpful. Thanks for the advice also!
Outstanding presentation. Just what I was looking for.
Great way to saddle. Thanks for the instruction video, very well done. I’ll use this in my workshop.
New to your channel and enjoying your videos, got turned on to your videos from Farmer Tyler Ranch and happy he did. Coming from a family of welders, I'm still interested in welding projects even though I sucked at welding and didn't follow in their steps. Love watching you and Tyler fabricate pipe projects, keep up the great work "Red"
Hey thanks for the comment! I’ll have to tell Tyler thanks for the shoutout. I’m hoping to do a few more welding projects and make a few more welding videos this fall once we slow down from farming and cows. Take care!
That’s beautiful. I can’t believe how that blade cuts. I wonder how long it stays sharp. Great video
I have the same machine. I cant really say how long the blades last but you can cut all day. Only downside is once the blade becomes dull you throw it away bc you cant sharpen them like woodworking blades.
Just don’t cut anything except mild steel with it. No stainless or aluminum. And NEVER cut rebar, t-posts, or old bed frame angle iron. They are all recycled metal and contain hard spots that ruin the blade.
@@TxMesquiteman FYI they make special blades for aluminum and stainless.
I can’t recommend these dry cut saws enough. I’ve loved mine! I cut mostly thick heavy drill pipe with mine but still seem to get 200-300 cuts out of a blade. If you were working with thinner material you would get many more.
@@LuthiRanchWY cool video dude how much are those blades?
Very pretty joint !! Good job. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks I will be using your method for my new back gate in the yard. THANKS 😊
Slick !! does pipe diameter effect the angle,how do you find it if it changes,
If the size is the same, no if you're going to larger post than the diameter of the horizontal it flattens. It also depends on the diameter of your posts as the the angle to make your cuts.
Yes to what Dougdouglass said. The angle will be the same no matter the size as long as the 2 pieces you are joining are the same diameter.
ANYONE JUST LEARNING TO DO THIS: ITS OK TO USE YOUR SCREW UPS JUST FILL IT WITH WELD!!
I’d agree, don’t throw it away
Thank you brother I'll be doing it that way on the next one. I was making it complicated for sure. Appreciate you
Yet a very simple, great, idea. Thank you for taking the time. From Missouri
Excellent video! I have watched it several times.
Love my dry cut saw. I've had mine about 15yrs. Thanks for the tip. Like the way it leaves a bevel.
His eyechrometer is on point! Bravo sir
What a timesaver! Thanks! 👍🏼🇺🇸
Thank you for a great idea for joining pipe.
Excellent tip. Thank you!
Great technique. Thank you for sharing.
Very cleaver idea! In the 70's I worked in a steel fab shop making miles of safety railing in 20' lengths. They had a hand shear to cope the ends that honestly was only a little faster. Thankfully I ha a helper cutting an prepping the pieces while I jigged the sections up and welded them. Brought back good memories!
Very nice demonstration!
Love this, clever chap. Like the bevel for the weld to pool nicely.
thanks for sharing! I'm working on a project this summer and will use this trick. thanks!
This will help my future roll cage build. Thank you
A1!!! Thanks for the tip. A great way to notch for mooring bits.
What a great idea!! Just saw this. Thanks for posting!!
Nice method. Thanks for posting.
Brilliant, no excuses now:) thank you!!!!
Well done, Great job of teaching. You kept it simple
Great video. This is simple enough for any DIY'er to understand and be able to do. I will certainly be using this method. Thanks for a great video...
very useful no complicated nonsense how to,
thanks for sharing...like that a lot.
Great video! Thank you!
Stay warm and safe.
Thank you for the heads up. That will save a lot of time bud. Really appreciate you.
Very nice! The best and slickest way ever! 👍👍
Thank you for recording and posting this educational video.
Great way to make a saddle joint. 👍 Thanks.
Thanks for the tips.
I try to learn something new ever day as well. Never knew how to cut a saddle looks easy using your method.
Going to try this on smaller pieces of round pipe for a flag mount on my motorcycle rack.
Nicely done. Great job!
Excellent, nothing better.
Very good process! Thanks!
Best method I've every seen! Thanks for sharing your skill.
This is the simple way I've been looking for, instead of the paper template. Thanks.
Thank you for a wonderful Fab skills work shop show God Bless South Texas Rig Welder
Very slick! And that's a badass metal saw blabe! It cuts through that pipe like butter!