I'd honestly fire the product manager on the spot. This is completely unacceptable. 180 dollars is another price increase when keyboards are getting cheaper and more refined with each release. God save Logitech at this point. Huge L once again...
Having a keyboard from 5 years ago at the same price as a set a really nice custom is just sad And that typing sound is brutal, sound like a $20 cheap a*s keyboard
the gk61 is a good starter board for new pc gamers. but if this Logitech board was even 40 bucks i would not tell anyone about it or recommend it lmfao, and the gk61 I've recommended to many.
The saddest thing is that for $180 they give you a $50 crappy keyboard. When there are options like the Womier S-K71 which is full aluminum, plus it feels and sounds incredible for a modest price of $80-90
That intro and ending were so damn good. I don't even care about the keyboard but now I do. I care how much it sucks because you did this video so well. They need to really take notes from all your points as much as they should know this stuff already.
I upgraded from my Logitech G915 to a Varmilo Minilo. Even though it's plastic it's such a big upgrade. I don't miss the key rattle, or lack of gasket, no dampening, bad stabilizer, proprietary keys etc...
Logitech released this as if the HE keyboards didn't exist. They probably put more money into the office space products than the gaming since I see a ton of the office products ads lately.
We are at an era of keyboards where doing absolutely nothing special is considered bad. That is a good thing but it makes it harder and harder for new companies to stand out
Man I hate how these are such good videos but they get no views and the comments are almost all bots. But keep it up! Keep making these awesome videos. I also think it's crazy how a big company like logitech can get away with this. I mean they have some pretty good other products, but holy, this ones bad.
I love that you dumped on this (rightly so) and weren't put off by all the idiots calling out MKBHD for being honest. Companies are getting desperately greedy and need to do better for their community. GG Frank!
I'll never understand this trend of keyboards that require layers/chords for basic functionality you use every day. Unless it's just to look pretty on a desk where someone never actually uses their computer. Even if you only ever play games and nothing else, you still need the cursor and function keys often enough that they're worth the TINY bit of extra space.
Im so glad to see randomfrankP still doing content after so long. I remeber being 14, drooling over some of the tech shown on this channell. Im now 20, and here we are still. Always loved your content.
Not surprising since they somehow struck a goldmine with the GPX, now they're trying to see what sticks to the wall while keeping the outrageous price.
i figured put the problem at the section where you shake the keyboards... its that you assume there are pros playing on keyboard... not once has there been a pro on keyboard...
If you want to know why Logitech advertises "Key Control" as a feature I think it is because for years now they never had a keyboard that could be fully customisable with the macros and remapping on each key and only on their keyboards that contained macro keys on the side did they have this available as a feature and even then only those specific macro keys on the side were customisable and not the rest of the keys. As far I am aware Corsair was the first with this feature which they added to their very first K70 RGB which BTW was the very first RGB mechanical keyboard and it also had per key RGB lighting and was the first for that too because before that any keyboard that did have backlighting only had a single colour and when the keyboard did have a lighting effect it would just be some sort of flicker where all switches would change together in synchronization. Corsair working together with Cherry pioneered RGB mechanical switches that could be individually controlled back in 2014 and that was a WHOLE ASS DECADE AGO. Logitech took 10 years to do that When looking at this so called "Key Control" feature from the perspective I just talked about it is all the more shocking as to why it is being advertised as a feature which has been given its own special name. because NO ONE ELSE advertises it as a feature let alone give the feature a specific "cool name" since they have gone and done that feature years ago. I remember I think it was JayzTwoCents who did a video on a Logitech full size wireless keyboard like 3 years ago and was shocked they did not have remappable keys on that keyboard except for the macro keys on the side
i like how they started from inexpensive but really good quality to cheap but pricey products, like their last par of headset they released for 250$ with little to no improvement just that they are wireless
This really should've had the PowerPlay treatment and had actual support for aftermarket optical switches. Then I can see a point for it costing the way it does.
Man ... that intro is killer. The toilet paper on top at the end was chef kiss. I could hate the rest of your review, but it's a very creative and funny intro.
Mr. Frank, my buddy was in need of a windows key. I remembered watching one of your videos way back when, and you plugged a website for buying windows keys. Do you remember what the website was?
Best part of the video was RFP suggesting powerplay tech to be used in their keyboards. Meaning that we will probably have that feature after 6 years from today. At least we'll still get it. Probably
I was kind of shocked at first on how different your intro went but it's very clear how anyone would be frustrated if a company that u praised for years suddenly throws an apple move of selling the brand without innovation. Basically paying for the brand's name at this point. Hopefully your video lets logitech fix this lackluster kind of a keyboard
Logitech's keys are almost always rattling and loose. Even their $230 G915 has rattly ass switches. Edit: and don't even get me started on the f-cking micro USB. Logitech makes me sick.
As said before the switches are the only redeeming quality, because I wanted Logitech to make a optical/hall effect keyboard so hopefully they can learn from it to make better keyboard with better optical/hall effect switches
I bought one from a sale, it was 150e. I actually liked the keycaps, but the formfactor was the issue for me. With G515 keycaps were not to my liking but layout was perfect. I preordered Logitech Rapid, I think it will be perfect for my use...hopefully. I do not like clicky caps. Currently I own G910, and it has served me well :)
Holy shit 180..... Bro my Razer Blackwidow Tourmey was 120 with a steel body and its going on 8yrs of heavy WoW and FF14 abuse. Half the rgb doesn't display properly as of the past year. But the keyboard its self works like a tank. The only reason I'm thinking of replacing it is to get slightly quieter switches. But logitech can keep that shit.
I think the point of the price is when it goes on sale, probably soon, it's more enticing for the less Keyboard inclined to buy it cause of how much they're "saving". Though maybe that's me giving them too much credit and they expect people to really spend enough money to buy this keyboard instead of a used nintendo switch lite or something.
Similar boards are available for around $50. I have to nitpick about the negativity on 1kHz polling rate, though. Fractions of a millisecond is absolutely tiny compared to anything else involved in a key press. If the point was that you can't go slower, I'd like to have seen where that matters - other than technically not having control over it. With the mentioned best gaming keyboard, the polling rate is changeable but at 1kHz at max.
YUP!!! gotta hold these companies accountable especially industry leaders, otherwise they will push any old product out and smack the label of innovation on it because they know everyone will still purchase it.
The fact that this keyboard is such a basic almost starter keyboard with virtually no stand out features is infuriating. This is a company showing how utterly out of touch they are.
This really does look like a board that Logitech forgot to release 7 years ago
I think they were in a rush... they have a life too like mabye need to hurry cuz there flight is on the move or whatever
@@JB-DJ But for $180, just nah. U could just get a better keyboard for under $100
agree :D
Yeah and double so compared to recent Corsair's outing, even they defected to the 2020s already
The intro really spoke 1000 words about this keyboard
buy logitech mice, do not buy logitech anything else. simples!!!
@@seanstuchbery logitech mice in 2024/25? no thanks
Logitech increasing prizes but same quality
where is this prize they are giving out
As do alot of brands
(*prices ) but yeah inflation and what not ig im more and more inclined to choose these newer/smaller brands like wooting etc
Literal shrinkflation of tech
Worse quality*. They used to use better switches that weren't proprietary
That shake test got me LMAOOOOO
God that sounds awful, like a bag of rocks.
my 915 is painfully similar
I’m not retarded but I like rocks
@@bradhaines3142 wow I was about to say the same thing about my g915!
I rarely comment but it’s really nice to see a big reviewer calling out a big company’s bullshit 🎉
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen him this disappointed in a product. Thanks for the honesty Frank!
That intro implying the keyboard is a POS I love that 💀
I'd honestly fire the product manager on the spot. This is completely unacceptable. 180 dollars is another price increase when keyboards are getting cheaper and more refined with each release. God save Logitech at this point. Huge L once again...
fucking baby
Having a keyboard from 5 years ago at the same price as a set a really nice custom is just sad
And that typing sound is brutal, sound like a $20 cheap a*s keyboard
why do i feel like logitech just mass ordered it from alibaba like a custom RJ61 or GK61
Please don’t compare it to keyboards that are actually good for the price 😂😂
I own a the Gk61 is a god send
@@ambasing69basically it is a GK61 with a massive price hike from greedy Logitech. @techNo1geek made an accurate statement.
BECAUSE LOGITECH DID JUST THAT HELLO!!!???
the gk61 is a good starter board for new pc gamers. but if this Logitech board was even 40 bucks i would not tell anyone about it or recommend it lmfao, and the gk61 I've recommended to many.
Damn $180, I'd expect machined aluminum body.
Keyboard designer: I can design a new keyboard that cost noting to make but charge an arm and a leg
Logitech: You are promoted
have you noticed they kept designing but not acknowledging economic elasticity?
I know a lot of focus has been brought to the intro, but the abruptness of the ending? That is the exclamation point to your "No thanks" right there.
To be fair, he used a fade to black rather than a hard cut. Haha
The best part about this keyboard is the promotional ASMR unboxing video they released was more of a warning than an ad
Even the Windows key has the old ass logo from 4 years ago
Ah shit, now we only need marques to drop a bad review on it & we getting rid of Logitech with this one
Awesome review, i think you covered most of it last video 😂
Had to drive the nail in the coffin!
The saddest thing is that for $180 they give you a $50 crappy keyboard. When there are options like the Womier S-K71 which is full aluminum, plus it feels and sounds incredible for a modest price of $80-90
I'm dead happy to see some negative reviews because that means being brutally honest for the viewers.
The Intro dudeee 💀 bruh iam dead
I have a G915 TKL, It bogels my mind how much more expensive this is. At least the G915 has a metal brushed plate on it.
That intro and ending were so damn good. I don't even care about the keyboard but now I do. I care how much it sucks because you did this video so well. They need to really take notes from all your points as much as they should know this stuff already.
Imagine _Redragon_ (of all the companies) having a K617 with magnetic switch and 8k, while Logitech has this thing, oh boy.
I upgraded from my Logitech G915 to a Varmilo Minilo. Even though it's plastic it's such a big upgrade. I don't miss the key rattle, or lack of gasket, no dampening, bad stabilizer, proprietary keys etc...
That intro is CRAZY LOL!
180 for a green PCB is crazy
The clicking of the pen for sound reference at the start is a great basis. Kudos to the person who came up with it.
10:18 That shake test is shocking....
Logitech released this as if the HE keyboards didn't exist. They probably put more money into the office space products than the gaming since I see a ton of the office products ads lately.
i hate how good the light looks on them. 0 light leak and only light on the keycaps just looks so good...
We are at an era of keyboards where doing absolutely nothing special is considered bad. That is a good thing but it makes it harder and harder for new companies to stand out
Thank you.
Man I hate how these are such good videos but they get no views and the comments are almost all bots. But keep it up! Keep making these awesome videos.
I also think it's crazy how a big company like logitech can get away with this. I mean they have some pretty good other products, but holy, this ones bad.
Agree!
Google Logitech DEI and you will find the direct problem.
Hoping this is the transition to Frank James Rebrand coz man is entering his villain arc💀
NO. This "villain arc" meme has to stop. Calling companies on their BS is NOT villainous. Logitech is the villain here.
@@Marrrrtin real
you should honestly be a product manager or something. you have better ideas than most of these top companies lol
The pull up BEFORE the wipe in the intro was wild
I love that you dumped on this (rightly so) and weren't put off by all the idiots calling out MKBHD for being honest. Companies are getting desperately greedy and need to do better for their community. GG Frank!
Great review ❤❤❤
i like that volume rocker form factor and placement ngl, hopefully others implement similar ideas
The tolerances on those switches, plate, and caps make me physically ill lmao that shake test was very telling about the quality
I'll never understand this trend of keyboards that require layers/chords for basic functionality you use every day. Unless it's just to look pretty on a desk where someone never actually uses their computer. Even if you only ever play games and nothing else, you still need the cursor and function keys often enough that they're worth the TINY bit of extra space.
Glad you did review it. I like to hear your thoughts on unreasonable products.
Not even having an adjustable actuation distance at $180 is crazy
This is the kind of honesty we need nowadays! nice comic inference with the Seinfeld bit awesome!
Im so glad to see randomfrankP still doing content after so long. I remeber being 14, drooling over some of the tech shown on this channell. Im now 20, and here we are still. Always loved your content.
Been following for years and never seen a negative review, this is first ever coming from you. Sheeshh Logi really dropped the ball on this one huh.
Love the translucent keycaps on your wooting, whats the name of these?
Man I have a 25 bucks 96 Mechanical Keyboard and it doesn't make a rattle sound like that. As if Logitech thinks the eSports fans are easy to fool.
Not surprising since they somehow struck a goldmine with the GPX, now they're trying to see what sticks to the wall while keeping the outrageous price.
0:20 :O .....oh he went there 😂😂
i figured put the problem at the section where you shake the keyboards... its that you assume there are pros playing on keyboard... not once has there been a pro on keyboard...
The very stock green pcb got me rolling. Havent seen that in a while
Yeah I know right. It looks so archaic. But then again, they could'nt even properly make it hotswap so its not like you will see it anyway.
Lol, my 40$ red dragon keyboard has the green pcb, but they were hotswappable, and that was 3 years ago. Logitech is progressing, but backwards.
@Logitech at this price point you need hotswappable hall-effect (ideally universal) switches if you want to actually sell this
If you want to know why Logitech advertises "Key Control" as a feature I think it is because for years now they never had a keyboard that could be fully customisable with the macros and remapping on each key and only on their keyboards that contained macro keys on the side did they have this available as a feature and even then only those specific macro keys on the side were customisable and not the rest of the keys. As far I am aware Corsair was the first with this feature which they added to their very first K70 RGB which BTW was the very first RGB mechanical keyboard and it also had per key RGB lighting and was the first for that too because before that any keyboard that did have backlighting only had a single colour and when the keyboard did have a lighting effect it would just be some sort of flicker where all switches would change together in synchronization. Corsair working together with Cherry pioneered RGB mechanical switches that could be individually controlled back in 2014 and that was a WHOLE ASS DECADE AGO. Logitech took 10 years to do that
When looking at this so called "Key Control" feature from the perspective I just talked about it is all the more shocking as to why it is being advertised as a feature which has been given its own special name. because NO ONE ELSE advertises it as a feature let alone give the feature a specific "cool name" since they have gone and done that feature years ago. I remember I think it was JayzTwoCents who did a video on a Logitech full size wireless keyboard like 3 years ago and was shocked they did not have remappable keys on that keyboard except for the macro keys on the side
That intro was too good lmao! I bet you thought of the intro idea while actually using that very same toilet! Lol
i feel like logitech dont even know what rapid trigger is they're so behind
They’re like 5 years behind wtf is that north facing leds 💀💀
i like how they started from inexpensive but really good quality to cheap but pricey products, like their last par of headset they released for 250$ with little to no improvement just that they are wireless
This really should've had the PowerPlay treatment and had actual support for aftermarket optical switches. Then I can see a point for it costing the way it does.
is wooting still the 1?
it still is but not for long
i never thought an intro could be so perfect as this
Man ... that intro is killer. The toilet paper on top at the end was chef kiss. I could hate the rest of your review, but it's a very creative and funny intro.
Nah that intro was somthing else 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mr. Frank, my buddy was in need of a windows key. I remembered watching one of your videos way back when, and you plugged a website for buying windows keys. Do you remember what the website was?
The punchline ,laughtrack and seinfeld music earned you a like
why does the spacebar sound so spongey its horrid
Best part of the video was RFP suggesting powerplay tech to be used in their keyboards. Meaning that we will probably have that feature after 6 years from today. At least we'll still get it. Probably
My Pro X TKL doesn't make sound when i shake it, i wonder why they went backwards with the new keyboard
That " no thanks " at the end just put a smile on my face.
I was kind of shocked at first on how different your intro went but it's very clear how anyone would be frustrated if a company that u praised for years suddenly throws an apple move of selling the brand without innovation. Basically paying for the brand's name at this point. Hopefully your video lets logitech fix this lackluster kind of a keyboard
can someone shortens it up, why doesnt he like it
Love the new vid style bro!
nothing couldve prepared me for that intro, Logitech not gonna send him anything for a long while now
Logitech's keys are almost always rattling and loose. Even their $230 G915 has rattly ass switches. Edit: and don't even get me started on the f-cking micro USB. Logitech makes me sick.
the volume dial is perfect for those 'are ya winning son?' moments
As said before the switches are the only redeeming quality, because I wanted Logitech to make a optical/hall effect keyboard so hopefully they can learn from it to make better keyboard with better optical/hall effect switches
I bought one from a sale, it was 150e. I actually liked the keycaps, but the formfactor was the issue for me. With G515 keycaps were not to my liking but layout was perfect.
I preordered Logitech Rapid, I think it will be perfect for my use...hopefully. I do not like clicky caps.
Currently I own G910, and it has served me well :)
how does anyone accidentally press the windows key while playing??????
So whats a good 60% keyboard for gaming
that logi sound test hurts the soul
This keyboard could've been released 5 years ago and still wouldn't be top spec back then
Das ASMR test was better when Logitech did a post on theirs instagram, but i think this is closer to the reality.
Holy shit 180..... Bro my Razer Blackwidow Tourmey was 120 with a steel body and its going on 8yrs of heavy WoW and FF14 abuse. Half the rgb doesn't display properly as of the past year. But the keyboard its self works like a tank. The only reason I'm thinking of replacing it is to get slightly quieter switches. But logitech can keep that shit.
I think the point of the price is when it goes on sale, probably soon, it's more enticing for the less Keyboard inclined to buy it cause of how much they're "saving". Though maybe that's me giving them too much credit and they expect people to really spend enough money to buy this keyboard instead of a used nintendo switch lite or something.
GK 61 + Logitech Esc Keycap = $180
great deal
just buy a rattlesnake than this keyboard
The intro immediately told me how this video was going to go LMFAO
I'm still waiting for a damn wireless Huntsman Mini.
good thing I'm looking at going with corsair products from now on then right?
I wanted to ask what website (9:56) that is, I'm quite curious.
how long until you post your viper v3 pro review? this week? next week?
When the embargo lifts 😶
Similar boards are available for around $50.
I have to nitpick about the negativity on 1kHz polling rate, though. Fractions of a millisecond is absolutely tiny compared to anything else involved in a key press. If the point was that you can't go slower, I'd like to have seen where that matters - other than technically not having control over it.
With the mentioned best gaming keyboard, the polling rate is changeable but at 1kHz at max.
Rfp you have a positive cantal tilt. I'm so happy for you!
Hi, could you recommend a good gaming keyboard please? And also a good mouse. I play competitive Fortnite, where every millisecond counts... Thanks
8:45, is this flippin why I can't remap my G915 TKL, because the keyboard isn't designed that way and not just an update to the software. Ludicrous.
YUP!!! gotta hold these companies accountable especially industry leaders, otherwise they will push any old product out and smack the label of innovation on it because they know everyone will still purchase it.
Intro was pure 🔥!
The fact that this keyboard is such a basic almost starter keyboard with virtually no stand out features is infuriating. This is a company showing how utterly out of touch they are.
what is the name of the first keyboard he shakes 4:12
he literally says the name
In case it’s not audible, it’s the wooting 60 he
@@ambasing69 Thank you, my English is not that good.
@@czarniano Don’t worry the name is not even english I think
first ever keyboard vid where i skipped over the typing test instead of skipping to it
pretty wild to think that I just bought a Cidoo V75 for... 167€
The Logitech Pro X 60 costs 199€ here.
6 years ago, ninja, tfue and fortnite were peak internet atm.
That’s how late Logitech is to the party