ExoSlide 3d Printer Conversion (Motion & Extrusion)
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In this video we dive into the ExoSlide system. We will cover the slides as well as the new extruder and hotend. A few months ago I converted my Ender 3 to the belted XZ and exoslide Y kit. The stock extuder/hotend was also swapped for the ExoSlide Extruder and Hotend. I will go over what install was like, how it has performed and give my final thoughts on the system based on my time so far.
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0:00 - Intro
0:46 - Linear Slides
1:39 - Converting Ender 3
2:28 - Installing Slides
3:18 - Complications
3:56 - ExoSlide Extruder
5:13 - ExoSlide Hotend
5:28 - Toolhead Install
6:16 - Flow Testing
7:58 - Push It
9:09 - Printing
10:03 - Conclusion On Slides
11:45 - Toolhead Conclusion
13:11 - Outro
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Modbot, you're a machine, cranking out high quality videos! Congrats on the 100k subscribers, well deserved! If anyone has any ExoSlide questions, I try to answer all emails from our contact page.
Thanks for the shout-out! I’ve been intrigued by the Exoslide setups but the price has always been hard for me to justify.
Yeah man! Keep up the great work. I enjoyed your latest shop update. Organization is something I really struggle with so I always enjoy seeing how others "keep it together" haha. I really wish the price wasn't so high, the slides are rad but I think many feel the same way.
I dunno. Nearly $300 for the whole kit. I don't see the value in doubling the price of an ender 3 to upgrade it. Better to get a different printer.
Idk bro, you can go full linear rail on an ender 3 for sub $200. Not sure why this exoslide would be worth it then.
@@twanheijkoop6753 Personally I don't think linear rails are worth it on an ender 3 either. The point of the ender 3 is that its cheap, $100 at micrometer. Once you are putting more money in than the base machine I don't see if as a good value.
If you're printing for profit, that cost is nothing and can give you higher yield if you're space limited.
@@speadskater If you're printing for profit why would you waste your time and money upgrading an ender 3 instead of just buying a good reliable machine from the get go?
This is never going to increase your profit. Better to just buy a second ender 3 and double your output.
I just finished tensioning the belts on my full ExoSlide conversion on a CR10v3 tonight. I'm a little chapped Giles didn't let me know he was about to release an extruder. 🙂
I looked at linear rail conversion kits and for the CR10 size the ExoSlide was a better value to me. The CR10v3 has some nuances over the various other CR10 versions so I did have to get a couple of files from Giles to print some additional parts. One huge factor that I'd like to share is the level of support Giles provided both before and after the sale. Especially after the sale.
I ordered the Hemera mounting plate with my kit, but since the ExoSlide extruder is REVO compatible, I will be ordering one.
Thanks for making this video!
Man I was just looking at the exocube or Ender Extruder to convert my Ender 5 Plus. Perfect timing
The extruder/hot end seems to offer the _best_ value.
Although the X/Z and Y kits may be steep compared to other systems (linear rails), it’s still nice to see other approaches to solving a common problem.
Omg the slides are an amazing idea. Great work
I'm actually building a massive custom printer using the Exoslide guides and 2 of the extruders. Definitely had to do some custom prints for some parts to get everything to move properly. Can't wait to get it up and running.
I love the exoslide kit for my Ender 5 pro. It runs so smooth and reliably. I'm using an h2 at the moment but this new hotend looks solid. I may have to upgrade.
I’m excited to see more coverage on exoslide. They were doing good work over there yet I feel the adoption is not quite where it should be. I’m currently working on a scratch build where exoslide will be my primary motion platform
As a owner of an old cr10 that is so modded the only stock parts are the frame and lcd this gives me a raging semi. MMm that looks right to me. im getting this
100k 100k 100k! You're almost there!
Ahh we are so close!!!
That slide system looks printable
At 220C, using the method from Teaching Tech, I got about 14.4mm3/s from a microswiss all metal on my Ender 3 (stock heater).
I could have pushed the extruder higher, but it was bending the printed mount.
I would love to see the TriangleLab CHC ceramic heating core mini v6 upgrade and review on the Ender 3 S1 pro. Seems you would have the first video about it! Also, I would like to hear more about PEO vs PEI coated build plates.
Great video explaining the Exoslide system. I'm going to install both components on my Ender 5+. What is the max Temp the extruder/ho tend can be run at? Is the hot end thermistor option #5 in Marlin?
Still I am happy with stock ender 3, this total cost with printer equals voron switchwire..... and as you mentioned i video, bed wheels are mostly stressed so I am waiting to see all ender 3 versions of your choice upgrade with linear rails on Y axis a cheap one may be fine and print tests included. Good video. It wil prevent people from spending much on nut much.
I modified my Ender 5 and 5 plus with linear rails, switched to Exoslides and what an improvement. Skip the rails and go directly to Exoslides
You are 100% one of the people I think of when I think of advocates for the slides. I remember you mentioning them on the previous video I did and the positive experience you have had.
@@ModBotArmy I'm only sorry that I'm in the process of disposing of all of my Ender 5s that I have modded with them. Giles is a great guy, but I'm going to Bambu and the Prusa XL with my two Rat Rigs.
@@woodwaker1 it’s hard to ignore the speed and convenience of the Bambu printers. I am very curious as to what the xl end up being like. Also what rat rigs? Minions? Or v core?
@@ModBotArmy I have two V- core 3.1. I installed the 3.1 upgrade on both a 500 mm and 400 mm cube. I have an OmniaDrop on each, so with the size and direct drive, I don't try to go crazy fast, but the size really helps.
Video suggestion? May we see a klipper exoslide video? I'm curious on noise and to see if there will be extra noise?
Have you done any videos on the Zesty Nimble V3
I have an ender 3 pro that I just installed a BLV linear kit recently but I'm still having issues with lead screw system and I'm really contemplating this or a Switchwire conversion *for fun not practicality* I wonder which one would be a better option for faster quality printing.
How about a video on the best bang for buck upgrades for the ender 3. You could break it down by price point vs ease of upgrade. I think Thomas Sanladerer's video on running octaprint on an old android phone sounds like a really cheap way to add wifi control and a camera.
Klack for ender 3 as a bed probe. Like 10 bucks in materials. A dual geared extruder. Pei bed sheet. Bi metal heartbreak. Octoprint. Better spool holder that uses bearings. New fan shroud.
Subtotal: ~80 USD
Runner ups: fans to make it quieter and more part cooling. Dual z axis, either another lead screw or belted z mod. Klipper if you’re up to the task.
Adds another 80-100 bucks.
feel like at that kinda price $180 for XZ and $80 for Y youd be better off doing an ender 3 to voron sidewinder conversion. linear rails are not that expensive these days, sure wont be hiwin but even the budget aliexpress rails are good. is the exoslide less involved. sure. but its still a major overhaul
You should have separate tests for the rails and the hot end. No way to know which mod caused the improvements. It may just have been the better cooling.
Would you rather have the exo slide direct drive or micro Swiss for a other wish stock ender 3
I have a question about the power supply?? Is there a printable that I can use to mount the PS to the frame or does the exoslide run on the front of the rails??
Ive had this running on my ender3 for over a year now- but i’ve had to convert the y-axis back to v-slot wheels after the brackets failed twice- making the whole bed wobbly and useless for printing… perhaps the tension was too tight causing it to break (?) but its a pain to keep replacing… the x and z have worked out great tho. Just had to create my own hot end bracket and edit the cooling duct since the ones on the site didn’t fit my non-stock things.
We had a small batch issue some time back that was more brittle; now we make the ExoSlides bodies from Nylon, and they are almost indestructible! If you still have the other Y kit parts, shoot us an email from the contact page and we'll get the ExoSlides sent out.
Is it better than just changing to an allmetal hotend? As I'm getting pretty good results with mine!
Damn, where can I get an STL for those sliders?
Gotta ask. Are exoslides still relevant given the availability of good affordable linear rails these days? This conversion really seems overly complicated. Congrats on hitting 100k
I agree
Can you try this setup with klipper...
that's an interesting slide - I'm thinking whether it's possbile to print ExoSlide, I'm feeling like there are no obvious blocker from us doing that.
You would have to see if they have a utility patent or a design patent. If just a design patent, then you could probably modify it enough to get around any patents
Is there more drag from the Exoslide system completely surrounding the Extrusion compared to one linear rail to do the same job?
I have not done any instrument tests, but I would guess that the exoslides actually have less drag than a linear slide block.
4 exoslides surrounding the entire extrusion has a total of 16 bearings (4 per modular piece). Those bearings slide easily and the preload is adjusted with two screws per slide.
An mgn 9 or something like that will be rigid with medium preload, but will probably not fall under its own weight.
An additional thought. For a commercial machine that has been tested and will not have upgrades to its motion system, I would think that high quality mgn rails would be the way to go, because of their durability.
But if you plan to be tinkering with your 3d printer as a hobby, the modular exoslides may be the way to go. You just need to be careful with loktite or anything that might degrade the plastic components on the sides. (Speaking from experience)
You can get really good linear rails for the cost of that kit. I would have a hard time spending that.
I have the xz belt kit on my ender 3 v2 and i lost a little bit of X motion now I cant use my bl touch properly as it cant get over far enough for the offset :( I agree the Instructions they provide are Meh at best the slides themselves are nice though.
Seems like an awful idea 🙄. Now the aluminium extrusion is the wear part, instead of the “wheels”.
The X and Y axis use plastic treads over the bearings, which wear instead of the rail, though themselves last a very long time (much longer than V-wheels).
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just use a belt system like that with linear rails?
This is cool, but realistically a Switchwire conversion would likely be a better buy.
I love my Switchwire. I would say it is definitely a much more involved conversion than the eco but the end result is awesome.
Yep I agree. It will cost approx $350 and with a high flow hotend (which is ard the same price as all the exo upgrades you just did) and it will have many advantages like linear rails, definitely higher speed, fully enclosed and some other more minor ones.
The y kit doesn’t work with the ender 3 pro but they advertise that it does
What do you mean? I installed it on an Ender 3 pro.
@@ModBotArmy they didn’t provide proper hardware on the y kit. There was no proper way to mount the y extrusion to the printer. All other kits have been great it’s just the Y kit that’s been a problem
We have the Y sorted now; for a short run some kits were missing the mounting bolts for the bed bracket. We can send out the M5 bolts and new compatible bracket.
@@exoslide1632 thank you! I will send out a email. I appreciate the support!
The price would be worth it if you could see a bigger change when running klipper.
Those steel bearing riding on the aluminum rails will grind them down over time. Not very thought out, engineering wise. More bearings doesn’t always mean more better 😂
The steel bearing version is only used for the Z axis, and is good or 5-10k cycles / prints before it starts to wear. The X and Y use plastic tread over the bearings, and don't wear the rail.
@@exoslide1632 I’m sorry but I call BS. 5-10k cycles …steel bearings on aluminum rails. Steel a harder metal against a softer metal, will not last this long, especially with no sort of lubricant between said metals. If so, I recommend a video showing these so called 5-10K cycles because as an engineer, I like to call BS and will love to be proven wrong.
Better spend $$$ on new coreXY printer?
It’s cool, but at that price I’d just give my ender 3 pro away and get another sv06 for $50 less.
I know how to increase flow, simple answer is: replace motor with 7.5 or 3.75 deg one. Ask me how I know
It baffles me how companies are using content creators like pawns to promote there products then when problems arise the companies walk away scott free leaving the burden on the creators.
by the way, I see no sigificant reason to prefer this to cheapo chinese made linear rail - like, you need at least two block to create a slide, which is already more than linear rail
One comment suggests a big improvement with exoslides but my research shows no benefit with linear rails th-cam.com/video/I3xMHjiYENk/w-d-xo.html
@@petercallison5765 ha, that’s misinformation. Linear rail benefit in long term maintainability - v wheel will degrade and wear out during time, the defection can be spot out with bare eyes at around 1k hour ( which is 3 month when you print 8 hour per day or one month if you print 24 hour a day). So whenever you can, go linear rail.
it is not worth it. it is too heavy and too expensive. IIRC, 4 sides almost equal to half a kilo.... insanity. for the price, it is easier and better to just buy proper linear rails even those cheap hiwin clones are great compared to this.
Yeah, weight. From my experience if people woulc care about weight on these printers they wouldnt spend 100 dollars on basically relocating the stock extruder to the x carriage, making it a half kilo toolhead or strapping voron toolheads with sadly not that great part cooling to their printers, giving you also a damn heavy toolhead (afterburner weighs 470g and stealthburner 420g, printed with abs and being BOM/manual conform). Meanwhile the whole moving xy motion system on a similar sized printer (twotrees sapphire) with a proper direct drive ways maybe 400 grams
Each 20mm ExoSlide is around 35g, so 140g for a 4 ExoSlide hotend carriage. It's lighter than a linear rail setup in the Y axis on a Cartesian XY, as the X doesn't have the heavy linear rail (assuming the rail is bolted to 2020 extrusion).
Steel wheels on aluminum extrusion is bad design. This will creat wear on the extrusion. Wearing and replacing the original wheels is smarter
So even with all those mods... it prints no better than an ender 3. Seems a bit like snake oil to me.
Lol at the price.
From Experience (my Own design mods) Ball bearings as Rollers are an Whole Lot better than Roller wheels.. and even linear rails (which unless the $$$ Japanese variety ) are basically overhyped mediocrity. Look Trick but are real life..Not.
Are your extrusions Smooth enough tho?? I suspect not as there is Zero forgiveness Tolerance of non Milled surfaces..with ball races.
boooooo patent pending
More complicated, more money, not as good printing.🤞
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