CHECK OUT GIREUM BLUE: th-cam.com/channels/4gVk8Obw6v3tShVJn7Pb4w.html I didn't think I would make a video that topped the USUM video's length, but here we are! It's my sort of sequel to "Why Modern Pokemon Games Sucks", since we're talking about the modern Pokemon game I am most passionate about. I put a lot of effort into this video so hope you guys enjoy it! 0:00 Into 2:28 Part 0: The Last Pokemon Game I was Hyped For 8:36 Part 1: Expanded Cutscenes and Characters 12:54 Part 2: Expanding the Rivals 15:33 Part 3: Magma and Aqua Double-Pack 21:05 Part 4: Kaiju Monsters 22:44 Part 5: Music 25:21 Part 6: The DexNav 27:43 Part 7: More Than Original Pokemon 31:54 Part 8: Fly Me to the Moon… 34:27 Part 9: Map Design and Teleportation 37:42 Part 10: Too Much Water 7.8/10 40:04 Part 11: Hoopa Ring Legendaries 42:47 Part 12: Rapid-Fire Round 45:30 Part 13: The Easy Difficulty 47:04 Part 14: The Lack of Emerald Content 53:07 Part 15: The Delta Episode and Shigeru Ohmori 58:42 Conclusion
thanks for the efoort Jerry boss, really enjoyed this video and its flawless, i agree with everything you talked about and i have also had the same feeling that ORAS could have been the best, but saddly in this timeline we dont have such luck.
Ok I agree with most of these but they can't keep adding 3d models for every installment there are almost 1000 Pokemon so it is hard to do that in a year or two they take creating these games
I know i'm late, but Weavile and Gliscor in HGSS were *locked* to post-game, making them post-game evolutions and i guessing that Togekiss, Mismagius, Honchkrow were late-game if not post-game too, *if i'm not mistaken* (tho know how late National Park is considering i never played those games, and even then it's a chance and you have to be 1st) It is true they soft-locked Magnezone, Leafeon, Glaceon and Probopass for no reason tho, like couldn't have they just make the evolution places for them?
Gen 6 as a whole, is summed up by "WE were this close to greatness!" But The Pokémon company was in to much of a hurry to move on to gen 7 for the 20th anniversary. sigh
for sure I love kalos and how it looks and hoenn is my fav region since gen 3 but man they really screwedit up in the end man with the easy difficulty poor teams in major battles like gyms and avg story for kalos
Those memes leading up to the hoenn remake were great. My personal favourite was people wanting to hear trumpets in 3d or bathing with old ladies in 3d
I'll never understand why they removed the search mechanic, it's not just a gimmick as you can hunt for specific natures and it has a real purpose in the game. Also it felt like the first step towards having pokemon appear in the world and not just in encounter screens, was really disappointed when it wasn't in 7th gen
This video is what I've been saying about ORAS for years. They are great remakes and make for the definitive Hoenn experience. I feel like people crap on it because there is no Battle Frontier which, while I agree its removal was stupid, doesn't make this a terrible game. I just don't understand why the other Emerald locations like the Mirage Tower, Desert Underpass, Faraway Island, Navel Rock, and Trainer Hill don't make a return. The excuse that these are Ruby and Sapphire remakes and not Emerald remakes hold no real ground. I also wish the gym leaders had their Emerald teams as well, boosting its difficulty.
I agree, I freakin hate when people use that bullshit excuse of how their ruby and sapphire remakes and not emerald. They are using that exact same excuse for diamond and pearl now for not havin platinum stuff 😒
Honestly I loved in the fight with Maxie after you win where he does a double take, glasses disheveled, then fixes them. So much character in that animation and it fits him so perfectly.
How is it that a 3DS game can make cutscenes with completely separate higher detailed models for all the characters, but the new Switch game still has to use the chibis without moving mouths
The thing about ORAS, and I'll say this before the video even finishes: ORAS are my favourite Pokemon games of all time. Not even my favourite "modern" Pokemon game (i.e. x and y onward) but my favourite Pokemon games hands down (followed by Legends Arceus). I have played and REPLAYED ORAS over and over and over, and no, the lack of a Battle Frontier is not a reason to discount these titles. Look at what they did compared to what BDSP did.
Thank you. Personally HGSS are my faves and ORAS are my number too. They should've had the frontier but they are absolutely perfect in every other way the battle frontier missing doesn't take away from that
As a day one Pokemon Emerald owner, I can confirm the battle frontier is HUGELY overrated. Omega Ruby took everything that made the games good up until that point and improved them all. I know people say no battle frontier = bad, but there's a reason it was only used in ONE generation after Emerald.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Wally having his Ralts evolve into Gallade? Not only is it the introduction that show that ORAS does not restraint itself to being a gen 3 remake and not pretend that gen 4-6 don't exist until postgame, but is a great symbolism for Wally's character. Wally, a frail boy who has everything given due to pitying his frail nature. Ralts, a frail boy like pokemon who's only knows growl so requires to support of other pokemon to survive. Both of them going on an adventure to become stronger to stand on their own. Wally become someone as worthy to become your rival, as the Ralts becomes a superhero instead of the princess-like (something that can be proceed as a damsel in distress) pokemon.
In a way, I kind of miss Wally's Gardevoir. Gallade is more fitting but maybe they should have made his evolution version exclusive so that we could see him with both. Wally using Mega Gallade in Omega Ruby and Mega Gardevoir in Alpha Sapphire would be another way of differentiating the games.
@c0mpu73rguy So? This is a remake that acknowledges the existence of Gen that comes after it. In universe, Gallade doesn't suddenly not exist in Honen because of the Meta reason because Gallade wasn't created during the creation of Gen 3. It makes more sense than Golbat can't evolve from friendship because Crobat didn't exist when Gen 1 was made. It is one thing I like more than the other remakes.
They should have done this but only because Audrey Hepburn has Gardevoir and Mega Gardevoir as her ace, so they couldn't repeat. Gardevoir is perfectly fine as rendering him a sensitive boy but with his own resolve. In Japanese, Gardevoir is called "She Knight" so despite the feminine body shape, the Pokémon is still a good way to describe Wally. Keep in mind GameFreak never gender-locked Gardevoir even if the evolved versions of Ralts are very feminine.
@c0mpu73rguy ORAS was supposedly in a dimension where the events of XY (where Gen 1-6 Pokemon are already known) happened at the same time so it makes sense why these evos are part of the regional dex now (and why references like Rotom can exist) - it isn't like FRLG and HGSS which felt more like retcons to the original releases IMO.
In defense of Zinnia, she may look like a jerk, but from her perspective, everyone else is willing to commit mass murder on a parallel world. You’d likely be a jerk too if you though billions of people might be killed without even having a chance fo fight for themselves. At least in the ORAS world, everyone knows about the threat and can take action.
Zinnia strikes me as a rather machiavellian character. She meant well but she was in hiding throughout the entirety of the main story and only showed her hand in the Delta Episode. I feel like she was doing a lot behind the scenes, manipulating events and people to her advantage and she hides it behind a cheerful and friendly persona. If she were better written, she could have been fascinating. Kind of a "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" character. As it stands, Courtney's easily my favourite character in ORAS. I'm autistic and clearly Courtney is too. I don't know if that was intentional but that's how the character ended up. In fact, it's obvious that she's on a more extreme part of the autism spectrum than I am. I also appreciate that they didn't rely on tokenism with Courtney and were willing to make an autistic character a villain who went so bonkers that she tried to bring a meteor crashing down on the world. That's a shitty thing to do and they didn't use Courtney's autism as an excuse. When Tabitha exploded at her and demanded that she apologise to Maxie, he was completely justified. She knew what she was doing but was simply past the point of caring because she couldn't deal with the emotions that manifested from the realisation that she'd dedicated her life to a fundamentally flawed cause. Autistic people tend to be kind of infantilized and treated with kids gloves but we can be arseholes too and I like that ORAS didn't shy away from that. I think a character who could have been interesting if the games had bothered to give her any story was Lisia. Unfortunately, she was just kind of there and didn't contribute anything. If you're not interested in Pokemon contests, you have no reason to interact with her at all, aside from when she's first introduced in Slateport which was necessary to continue the game.
She doesn't really have any moral high ground to stand on considering she told Magma/Aqua how to awaken the legendary Pokémon and nearly destroyed Hoenn as a result.
Watching the video well after BDSP release, and I burst out laughing when he said Giratina is probably just sitting on it's ass in Turn back cave surrounded by Zubat, unsurprising, that's exactly what we got.
This is actually my favorite Pokemon game. Dare I even call it...one of my favorite games of all time. This is something that I have thought about for years now and...well...it just is. It has almost everything that I enjoy out of the series, including the nostalgia of the Hoenn Region and its amazing soundtrack, one of the best selections of Pokemon in the franchise, abundance of secrets and Legendarys to catch, a much improved Secret Base creator with online interactivity, Soaring, Mega Evolutions, and a more fleshed out story and epic battles, including one of the best Champions of them all, and the incredible final moments of the Delta Episode. ORAS has it all (except the Battle Frontier, but it doesn't really bother me all that much, despite what big a deal the ever-toxic fan base would have you believe). These days, Omega Ruby is the game in the series that I enjoy the most. I wouldn't trade this gem for anything! It makes me happy that it's getting the love and appreciation it deserves.
Honestly I got to agree. Probably just childhood bias but yeah Alpha Sapphire is genuinely one of the few Pokémon games I still remember fondly (the other being White 2)
Sad to say that I thought ORAS was not as good as I was hoping for only to come to the realization that it was the last time we'll have something that met and surpassed the bare minimum in modern games
While these games were ultra easy, they added a lot of things that made them good. I dont understand how can pokemon be so blind as to ignore MEGA evolutions its a seller weapon. As well as Oras ignored emerald BDSP will ignore platinum, or sell it as a DLC or sth. (i cant fathom how they are gonna not give anything to the best trio of starters Gen 4) :(
Late reply, but I feel like it comes down to experience. These were the hardest Pokémon games for me (though they were my first, so that’s probably why), even harder than platinum and Black/White
Alpha sapphire was the first Pokémon game I played. I get a massive nostalgia hit when I listen to the music. Zinnia’s and wally’s battle themes are dope as hell
Judging from how big of a disaster the initial reveal of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl was and later seeing how little they really are adding. You're essentially paying for a glorified remaster of the original ORAS definitely is probably going to be leagues better it. It's Not as good as HeartGold/SoulSilver, but it definitely does actually improve on many aspects of the base game/story
I think oras is a trash remake just because it doesn’t even acknowledge emerald and removes a lot of the things that made emerald special, I can say the same thing about bdsp, bdsp essentially removes everything that made platinum better like the battle frontier. Garbage remakes. A great improvement on ruby and sapphire but still a huge downgrade to emerald. Even then ruby and sapphire had a better difficulty then oras easy difficulty curve
@@GodSlayer330 Shut down your exp share and removed yours OP mega Garde with moonblast and oras will have a decent difficulty..back then most people are struggle to defeat dragon type like Cynthia's chomp and ghetsis's hydra,but nowadays just clicked moonblast and all dragons are obliterated
@@WheelStart even without the exp share the game is still rediculously easy, at times the game felt very tedious due to huge sudden random explosive spikes in difficulty since the game was primarily designed around the usage of the exp share making it hard in some areas and a lot easier in others and without the use the exp share the game can get a bit tedious because the game was not designed around keeping the exp share off. Same can be said about any of the 3Ds titles, the game in the 3ds titles were specifically designed around the usage of the exp share making it bit tedious if you choose not to use it, especially since each npc trainer catches up higher levels the further you progress and your Pokémon will be vastly underleveled if you do not use the exp share prompting me to actually have to turn it on and off at times to be at the appropriate level without overleveling my Pokémon or severely underleveling them. Pokémon games should be designed around not having the exp share, the exp share should be an option for those who want an easier experience but the entire structure of a Pokémon game should be based around not using it and if they are going to force us to use the exp share then they have to balance it out and nerf the exp share which they haven’t done in oras neither do we have an indication to believe that it’s being done in bdsp. The reason i can play the older Ds and game boy titles perfectly fine is because the older games were never designed around the usage of a broken exp share system making it easier to grind the appropriate level and fight the npc while keep it challenging enough. Modern games are designed around the exp share, if you choose not to use the exp share then the game punishes you for not using it but if you choose to use it then it also punishes you by making the game a breeze to play through.
@@WheelStart that’s not the main reason they are easier, sure fairy typing does make the game a “bit” easier. But what truly makes the game extremely easier is the unbalanced exp share and the fact that the modern Pokémon games are designed around its use. Not only that but the fact that the npc trainer Pokémon arn’t max IV’s.
@kickingbackpunchingcones4099 You're gonna have to point me to those "30-50% of the content" you're referring to. I mean, I know you can't because you're wrong but you should at least try to prove your point. Besides the battle frontier everything else missing are just small changes which are more than made up for by all the changes the remakes made to the story, the combat as well as the qol changes which naturally come with newer generations.
The moment when we went to outer space was a dream come true always heard a rumor that in the original if the research percent reach 100% you could go to the moon and fight deoxys
OR/AS community was the best IMO. I remember playing with a lot of people back in college but it kinda died down around Sun and Moon. Everyone was so hyped, there were group meets, mystery gifts, streetpass stuff, etc. Idk what happened but it kinda died down around gen 7.
I've believe I said this before, cause it truly gets better every video: this is your best one yet. You made excellent points too, and part of ORAS aged well from the game design to the hype season itself (there really hasn't been a hype season anymore)
I remember playing ORAS in 2015 when I was just 11. Got Omega Ruby, and I absolutely adored it. It made Hoenn my favourite region. Taking on the Pokemon League with the Blaziken line as my starter, taking on Team Magma, playing through the Delta episode, hunting for all the Mega Stone's. Gen 6 is where my love for Pokemon started, and I just started going playing again on my 2DS. Brought back some amazing memories and was a nostalgia trip I didn’t know I needed. ❤
this game may have ignored emerald but it took RS and made big changes to its story and gameplay, BDSP doesnt also considering what we have heard of bdsps music, oras music is actually incredible
Even though I do think the Battle Frontier should come back, I´m not as distraught by it as it was never my thing, Platinum´s Contest and Black 2´s PWT was always more of my thing. To be honest, I´m more distraught about the personal villa not coming back in BDSP rather than the Frontier. Edit: I should also add that no Battle Frontier also didn´t distraught me as much as I enjoy exploration and catching in Pokemon, and ORAS added new mirage spots and islands to explore, get items, and catch non Hoenn-dex Pokemon Edit: I do think HGSS, along with ORAS added character to npcs like gym leaders as we got to see more of them in the post game, with getting all of their phone numbers, seeing them interact with each other when you get their number, such as with Jasmine & Erika, or Falkner & Janine, as well as you calling them, and them calling you back. For ORAS, I never seen this yet but apparently Roxanne hangs out with Steven in a cave, I also remember Flannery talking about Heatran from outside the cave it´s ring resides in.
And an Exp Share that's at least customizable, why can't it have options that either you can have it be used only by 1, or have it multiple, that way they can somehow keep the difficulty curve but have an option of mass grinding?
@@tldoesntlikebread and ? HG/SS still brought some stuff from Crystals, and the remakes *should* bring all the good stuff from the better games in addition to the new concepts brought by the actual generation (in ORAS case, megas, and the storyline with it). Also, there's kind of a reason these third games exist, to give the "definitive experience" 👀
@@GzzGtu20 the crystal story hardly interferes with the story of Gold and SIlver in HGSS and I never said you couldn't bring stuff from Emerald, Battle Frontier is fine but the Emerald story is Emerald-exclusive, you can't put that story into Ruby and Sapphire. The third games are their own games, if someone said they're remaking Ruby and Sapphire, you should expect Ruby and Sapphire to be remade.
The battle frontier was the whole reason I got into breeding and ev training... Damn shame they skipped that. Alas, Pike Queen Lucy, we knew thee well. You'll always be the queen of our hearts.
Oras was my first pokemon game, and it was weird going back to emerald and remembering all of it almost. I recently had to delete my ultra moon save which had a lot of event pokemon and like 3 boxes of legends, so now im going back through all the games to get them all again. This review made me remember a whole lot, and it was really well done too man.
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire was one of my favourite Pokémon games after Pokemon X. I never played any Pokémon games until X, and never looked at any dicorse for Alpha and Omega because I never went online for Pokémon stuff, I'd just play and enjoy it To hear that people thought it was the WORSE remake, I was shocked, Pokémon Alpha changed me, it made me really love Pokémon cause I DID finish it, or at least watched someone finish it unlike X or Y It'll always have a special place in my heart as one of my favourite Pokémon games
I have never seen such a detailed essay about these games. I totally agree with your opinion and also started as a kid with gen 3 and 4. ORAS brought all my friends back to Pokémon in our teenage years because it caught the feeling of past times. I think it levels the games perfectly to modern standards and graphics. The improvements it made to the originals are welcomed. To me it is disappointing that gamefreak ignores third games when remaking a generation. The battle frontier was *THE* reason to play Pokémon post game but battle maison was just a cheap x y rip off. One thing I haven’t noticed or I didn’t realise you’ve talked about is safari zone. Bdsp will be the first modern game since HG/SS to include Safari zone. to me it was not the biggest deal of it being missing from ORAS but it would’ve been a welcomed inclusion. In regard of Bdsp being released in a month I am not very hyped for the games. I liked the games as a kid because me and my friends could play the games with a wireless connection on the go everywhere. And everyone had these games even kids who wrent into Pokémon before had the game. I was also playing Pokémon battle revolution which was the only way back then to battle with 3d graphics. We imagined Pokémon to be like that as a standard in 10 years. Now we have 3d Pokémon for several years and it isn’t something new anymore. Also the fact that these games will only be 1 on 1 remasters worries me a bit. Game freak never did one on one remasters, every remake had some improvements and unique features over its original counterparts (I know about underground but is it that of an improvement?). I hope that they will do some special post game thing like Sevii islands. (maybe you can do a video about these some time :D) All in all thank you for your great and detailed content and all your efforts you put in these videos.
i just watched a 7h super detailed analysis about ORAS haha (posted by a youtuber called shoogles) i highly recommend that a watch if you haven’t! it’s very well done too!
Hot take: I think ORAS _is_ the best Pokémon game ever. As in, by a landslide. There's not even any contest in my eyes. "The story is kinda silly (albeit entertaining) and it's a bit easy" are the only _true_ complaints I have; in almost all other ways, ORAS just _lets you_ go on an adventure of exploration and discovery at your own pace, and is _bursting at the seams_ with features that drive this gameplay theming home _hard._ Again... there's _no_ contest for me.
Yes!! Thank you, they're my favorite too. The games just let you do so many awesome things like flying on latio/as, knocking out 5 pokemon at once, catch a ton of legendaries, etc. Sure the older games had a better difficulty balance, but they were also far more grindy and didn't play nearly as smoothly as ORAS.
@@Jozombies115 Thing is, that's generally not even true. Try revisiting them these days; Pokémon has always been easy to spam a lot of A through, and HGSS specifically was _insultingly_ easy to degrees rivaling XY and SwSh.
The PokeNav feature in this game where you could find Pokemon with hidden abilities and egg moves was awesome. A great shame they ditched that after these games.
I fucking love ORAS. The story is deep, the characters are great, and all the quality of life features were amazing! But damn the Battle Frontier, why did they do that…
This was it to me the best remake outside of Plat and crystal (I never played HG/SS going to have to get a homebrew new 3ds for that ) but yeah that was Ultimately the one gripe I had with OR/AS Edit- can't forget emerald
i absolutely loved these games when they came out, i found my first shiny using the dexnav! i loved getting into competitive too, this game has a lot of good memories :)
In regards to gen 6 being the only gen you could get all of the Pokémon, I’m pretty sure that you could also do that in gen 3 if you include Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness (which why wouldn’t you they’re the best)
You can substitute Colosseum/XD with Emerald as many of the exclusive Pokemon there became available in the post-game Safari Zone while you can get the Legendary Beasts in FRLG (although like starters, you need 3 copies of that, and unlike starters they can't breed). Gen 4 also except the Legendary Golems, which while available in Platinum, can only be accessed with an event Regigigas, although the point of regular Regigigas is the use of cross-gen migration, that you needed to migrate the golems from Gen 3 games for it to reawaken.
@@zjzr08 you forgot that the only way to get the Johto starters in gen 3 without Colosseum and XD required completing the Hoenn Dex 3 times. So while it is technically possible, it's a tedious mess to complete the national dex without the GameCube games in gen 3.
Omega Ruby remains the only pokemon game to this day, in which I completed the national dex (except for Hoopa which came out after I was finished). The details made the game crazy good. For example if you had surf on a sharpedo, you'd actually ride a sharpedo and be faster than normal. DexNav was also an insane feature. Not only for breeding, but also for collecting, because it actually showed you, when you had every pokemon on a certain route. The criticism of too much water is something, I don't get. Thematically it makes sense to have a region, where sea and land are relatively balanced. And I think you can't criticise a remake for mapdesign choices of the game they remake.
Man i fucking love ORAS. Ive always wanted to play gen 3 and after growing up too fast I bought a 3ds and finally got to play alpha sapphire. Has to be one of my favorite gaming experiences ever
People may love gen 5 now, but it nearly killed pokemon back in the day. Gen 6 saved pokemon again with XY and ORAS, I remember people jumping back into pokemon after quitting in gen 4/5 because it was so good.
These was my first real Pokemon experience. I have a lot of fondness for this game and still hold it very close to me but man I've really come to terms with it's problems 7.8/10 is a valid critique brought down by awful wording. The fact the land routes are so interesting meanwhile all the water feels repetitive and boring is pretty unfortunate especially considering they take up half the region. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard the stupid "this is a remake of RS not E" excuse for the lack of Emerald content. Yes, stuff from RS should stay the same like Steven being Champion. But why in the world are we stuck with Wattson's and the Psychic twins's terrible RS teams and no Battle Frontier. We're just keeping out good features for "authenticity" which is stupid. Don't even get me started on the Delta Episode. I hate Zinnia, the multiple universe stuff was dumb and poorly implented especially with later installments and it only got good in it's last 10 minutes. StillI love these games an the Hoenn region. I hold a great respect for them even today. Pretty good remakes.
haven't watched the video yet, just saw the opening line about how ORAS could have been the best pokemon games and wanted to leave a comment. Ever since they came out I have been saying that if the gen 3 remakes happened during gen 5 instead of gen 6, they likely would have been the best pokemon games, since gen 6 is when gamefreak's design philosophy changed.
Another thing about the difficulty is that the game gifts you a Latios/Latias before even collecting 6 gym badges. I found ORAS less challenging than XY because of this reason alone
Honestly ORAS was where I picked up again after dropping Pokemon after the first dexit. ORAS when using the flute was so much better than using an hm slave.
Tbh Pokemon Oras were the best remakes Pokemon ever made! It's not just because I'm a gen 3 fan also because of the new elements added to the game. Why I think Oras is definition of best remakes you might ask? LET...ME.....TELL.......YOU! 1st of all instead of storyline being completely same as previous version Pokemon Oras takes place in alternate universe which gave a perfect excuse to make a reimagined version of hoenn. Yes you heard me right Pokemon Oras isn't just a remake it's a reimagined version of ruby and Sapphire because of new stuff like delta episode, free mythicals, ton of legendary encounters and so on; baseline of story and post game is way different than original and more fun. 2nd might I say dex nav was the best idea Pokemon came up with, it opened so much possibilities to play the game. You want egg moves? No need to breed use dex nav and encounters those Pokemons with egg moves. You want hidden abilities? Damn right use dex nav you have a chance to encounter Pokemons with hidden abilities. Aww! UWU shiny hunting is too tiering for you? Don't worry dear customers we got your backs 😁 we introduce shiny chain, thanks to dex nav if you encounter one Pokemon consecutively and continue the chain! You'll increase the chance to shiny hunting this way. (I became a shiny hunting maniac! Getting shinies earlier as 80-100 encounters) 3rd soaring feature added into base game mode (it did exist in gen 3 when they first came but eon flute was a event exclusive item so alot of people don't know about it's existence) . Now let me tell you all that soaring in the sky is way better than the good old fly hm. Not just it saves your slot of being used by fly hm but also you get to enjoy the feel that you can freely roam around the entire region. Might I say that is the best thing to do. 4th post game stuff, tho I am disappointed 😞 that they didn't include the battle frontier but battle resort ⛵ was kinda good enough at least better than nothing. Other than that dex nav now features expanded Pokemon encounters after you get national dex tbh the choices are really solid! 5th my god giving starter of every region is the best thing EVER! Instead of getting starters from previous gens not to mention the tedious transfer process; you just get to choose the starters you want. Well! Ik it's just one but who says you can use friends to trade so you can basically get whole set. 6th let me tell you I play Pokemon competitively! AND super training 😎 chefs kiss 😘. ITS....THE......BEST....THING..EVERRRRRR! It made ev training so easy that it's laughable. I wish every game implemented this feature this should be a core feature man! Poke aime also grate because Pokemon is basically a pet owning game! And you can play with them that was just too Great.
A criminally underrated set of games, and my second-favorite pokemon(after Black2/White2). Many of its features, like soaring & Dexnav, should've continued on in the series, and it feels like the last game with no pandering to another generation not their own and that most of it was done with love or with smarts.
Oras is fantastic. I'd go as far as to say it competes with HGSS though I'm nostalgic to gen 3. Without the battle frontier everyone claimed the games were garbage. It was disappointing but... I think people overexaggerated how bad it was.
It would be different than Explorers of Sky’s version since that was called Dark Dialga in the OG Japanese version. While Groupon/Kyogre were straight up Primal even in the OG Japanese version.
Pokemon omega ruby and alpha sapphire remain probably my favorite pokemon games of all time. They just came out at the right time, and were proper good games. Fond memories.
My brain... Horde battles could be induced in the wild via sweet scent. How I remember this... well when I started this video I dug out my 3DS and checked my team... then saw sweet scent and remembered I was using it to farm.
You are right. I recently played through it again (and it's the reason why I played Pokemon in the first place) and it is 100 times better the BDSP will ever be
Yeah, this definitely feels like the last game that cared about player feedback or giving the fan base what they want, despite ironically excluding things that we wanted
And the fact that this released alongside Super Smash Bros for Wii U, in reality, November 21, 2014 was really the best day for Nintendo fans in America.
As someone who played Gen 1 & 2 and the skipped R&S to barely play through Emerald before taking a long break until X & Y; I have to say I absolutely loved playing ORAS. Maybe just because it had been so long since playing Gen 3 and Pokémon in general that I didn't notice missing content. But this was one of the first times in a long time that I had played a Pokémon game so extensively.
The ORAS games were very good. It may be bias, as these were the first pokemon games i had, but I genuinely think of them as good games! I recently replayed them, twice in fact, and STILL had a lot of fun. Let's hope they don't fuck up gen 9.
I have fond memories playing Omega Ruby for the several days I was stuck in a hospital post-lung surgery when I was 17. It quickly became my favorite Pokémon game, but as the years went on I began to wonder if it was just because it helped keep me distracted during a rough time. This video reminded me that I wasn't tripping. OR/AS is goated.
bro Pokémon omega ruby and alpha sapphire was the first Pokémon games I have ever played and there my most favorite Pokémon game in the whole franchise
It might not been my first Pokemon game. But I never got bored and restarted the game. I did restart it to try a different team and another for a better rayquaza and 90 soft reset attempts for shiny mudkip (gave up didn't have the patience or the attention to do it ADHD) I love this game for the pacing and the credits. Trust me when I say I watch it once but never again. For oras I watch it every time which kinda says something from my perspective at least. They also brought my two favorite Megas Rayray and fluffy puff the dragon sweeper. ( both are obvious nicknames but if you don't see it then ill tell you it's Rayquaza and altaria) Altaria getting a mega was great you could finally show the ignorant people who say altaria don't deserve it's dragon typing by sweeping them out of existence. Shiny mega altaria is solid gold literally. Do I even need to say anything about mega rayquaza and that 780 stat total only beaten by plot garbage.
My only problem with the exp share is it makes training you team a little less special, like I had a Falinks in SwSh that I caught, had sit in my party, and then used maybe twice in the E4 after leveling it with exp share. It was just another body to fill in my team, I really like its design so it wasn't a problem with the Pokemon or anything. I think there's more investment when you throw your mons out into battle and watch them grow individually.
Been a fan ever since I saw your 1st Pokemon video on this channel! I love how entertaining and informative you make your content and I couldn't relate more when you described how much you looked up to Masuda before but now are a jaded and cynical 23 year old My birthday is also November 22nd and growing up it was always nice having my favorite franchise release their games a few days away lmao
Imagine pokemon Delta Emerald, with Wallace as champion, 2 Primal Reversed pokemons, and Mega Rayquaza, And both evil teams, the perfect gym leader teams, and no zinnia
Imo the best pokemon games ever made and yes I've played all of them I'm old I was a child when yellow , red , blue came out I've had them all and these ORAS imo are the best and my favorite which makes me and my opinion biased obviously. But the amount of content that was added imo was excellent I just got lucky and found a 2ds so I'm gonna get these again.
May be 2 years late but I will say that to this very day, ORAS still remains my favourite additions. And despite how short the story was (should've been longer), I absolutely loved the Delta Episode! Was the same moment Rayquaza became my favourite Legendary of all time! Then the battle in SPACE with Deoxys?! Might charge up the 3ds and play AS again. Though I will say that Zinnia needs to appear more! Felt like she was thrown aside entirely once the episode came to an end...
You forgot to mention that before entering sky pillar you should battle Wallace with his champion team, that moment was so amazing, since I played only emerald, where I thought Steven will be champion, but it was Wallace Can you really tell I like Wallace
I know I'm late to this comment, but would you have preferred a Z or X2Y2? A leaked Twitter source code shows that we were supposed to get two XY follow-up games, so X2Y2 probably would've been more likely (or perhaps a proto USUM-ugh), but what would have preferred?
Or/as as definitely my favorite way to play through hoenn, I don’t really care for the battle frontier being gone since I was never too invested in it. It may have to do with me getting into series later than others, but regardless, these remakes did so much to improve the original games for me to the point when I did play the originals, they just felt kinda naked to me???? Maybe that’s just my take but yeah I agree with you, these remakes are still really great and still did a lot to improve the og games. So I was overall content with these remakes.
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I didn't think I would make a video that topped the USUM video's length, but here we are! It's my sort of sequel to "Why Modern Pokemon Games Sucks", since we're talking about the modern Pokemon game I am most passionate about. I put a lot of effort into this video so hope you guys enjoy it!
0:00 Into
2:28 Part 0: The Last Pokemon Game I was Hyped For
8:36 Part 1: Expanded Cutscenes and Characters
12:54 Part 2: Expanding the Rivals
15:33 Part 3: Magma and Aqua Double-Pack
21:05 Part 4: Kaiju Monsters
22:44 Part 5: Music
25:21 Part 6: The DexNav
27:43 Part 7: More Than Original Pokemon
31:54 Part 8: Fly Me to the Moon…
34:27 Part 9: Map Design and Teleportation
37:42 Part 10: Too Much Water 7.8/10
40:04 Part 11: Hoopa Ring Legendaries
42:47 Part 12: Rapid-Fire Round
45:30 Part 13: The Easy Difficulty
47:04 Part 14: The Lack of Emerald Content
53:07 Part 15: The Delta Episode and Shigeru Ohmori
58:42 Conclusion
thanks for the efoort Jerry boss, really enjoyed this video and its flawless, i agree with everything you talked about and i have also had the same feeling that ORAS could have been the best, but saddly in this timeline we dont have such luck.
Ok I agree with most of these but they can't keep adding 3d models for every installment there are almost 1000 Pokemon so it is hard to do that in a year or two they take creating these games
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I know i'm late, but Weavile and Gliscor in HGSS were *locked* to post-game, making them post-game evolutions
and i guessing that Togekiss, Mismagius, Honchkrow were late-game if not post-game too, *if i'm not mistaken* (tho know how late National Park is considering i never played those games, and even then it's a chance and you have to be 1st)
It is true they soft-locked Magnezone, Leafeon, Glaceon and Probopass for no reason tho, like couldn't have they just make the evolution places for them?
You where right about bdsp be worse not even megas
Gen 6 as a whole, is summed up by "WE were this close to greatness!" But The Pokémon company was in to much of a hurry to move on to gen 7 for the 20th anniversary. sigh
Gen 6 could be a tie with Gen 3,4,5 if pokemon z actually exist
@@WheelStart
I agree.
for sure I love kalos and how it looks and hoenn is my fav region since gen 3 but man they really screwedit up in the end man with the easy difficulty poor teams in major battles like gyms and avg story for kalos
Years from now if we get gen 6 remake we could FINALLY get Pokémon z
@@WheelStart In an AU
I miss when people used to spam "Hoenn confirmed" whenever they see anything resembles number 3
Omg I did not remember that. Wow
Those memes leading up to the hoenn remake were great. My personal favourite was people wanting to hear trumpets in 3d or bathing with old ladies in 3d
I would write hrrnn cnfrmdd after a while lol
Good old times lmao
"He doesn't dress like a gay pirate anymore"
You're right. He dresses like an even gayer pirate.
That's unironically quite the improvement.
If this is what we as gay people dress like. We sure got drip.
@@FckYuWant got mental issues more likely
@@LemonDropOff lol you think that’s gay?
You seem to be mistaken queerness with swag
*Do not make this mistake ever again*
@@FckYuWant no, he dresses how a gay pirate dresses, 99% of gay people arent pirates
I'll never understand why they removed the search mechanic, it's not just a gimmick as you can hunt for specific natures and it has a real purpose in the game. Also it felt like the first step towards having pokemon appear in the world and not just in encounter screens, was really disappointed when it wasn't in 7th gen
This video is what I've been saying about ORAS for years. They are great remakes and make for the definitive Hoenn experience. I feel like people crap on it because there is no Battle Frontier which, while I agree its removal was stupid, doesn't make this a terrible game. I just don't understand why the other Emerald locations like the Mirage Tower, Desert Underpass, Faraway Island, Navel Rock, and Trainer Hill don't make a return. The excuse that these are Ruby and Sapphire remakes and not Emerald remakes hold no real ground. I also wish the gym leaders had their Emerald teams as well, boosting its difficulty.
I agree, I freakin hate when people use that bullshit excuse of how their ruby and sapphire remakes and not emerald. They are using that exact same excuse for diamond and pearl now for not havin platinum stuff 😒
I mean being an alternate worlds to the RSE timeline gives them a canon reason at least...still not a good excuse though.
The most detailed pokemon games
Will all that stuff missing, it doesn’t sound like a “definitive experience” to me
@@PlayThenReview still better than gen 8
Honestly I loved in the fight with Maxie after you win where he does a double take, glasses disheveled, then fixes them. So much character in that animation and it fits him so perfectly.
How is it that a 3DS game can make cutscenes with completely separate higher detailed models for all the characters, but the new Switch game still has to use the chibis without moving mouths
The thing about ORAS, and I'll say this before the video even finishes: ORAS are my favourite Pokemon games of all time. Not even my favourite "modern" Pokemon game (i.e. x and y onward) but my favourite Pokemon games hands down (followed by Legends Arceus). I have played and REPLAYED ORAS over and over and over, and no, the lack of a Battle Frontier is not a reason to discount these titles. Look at what they did compared to what BDSP did.
Based take
Thank you. Personally HGSS are my faves and ORAS are my number too. They should've had the frontier but they are absolutely perfect in every other way the battle frontier missing doesn't take away from that
As a day one Pokemon Emerald owner, I can confirm the battle frontier is HUGELY overrated.
Omega Ruby took everything that made the games good up until that point and improved them all.
I know people say no battle frontier = bad, but there's a reason it was only used in ONE generation after Emerald.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Wally having his Ralts evolve into Gallade? Not only is it the introduction that show that ORAS does not restraint itself to being a gen 3 remake and not pretend that gen 4-6 don't exist until postgame, but is a great symbolism for Wally's character. Wally, a frail boy who has everything given due to pitying his frail nature. Ralts, a frail boy like pokemon who's only knows growl so requires to support of other pokemon to survive. Both of them going on an adventure to become stronger to stand on their own. Wally become someone as worthy to become your rival, as the Ralts becomes a superhero instead of the princess-like (something that can be proceed as a damsel in distress) pokemon.
In a way, I kind of miss Wally's Gardevoir. Gallade is more fitting but maybe they should have made his evolution version exclusive so that we could see him with both. Wally using Mega Gallade in Omega Ruby and Mega Gardevoir in Alpha Sapphire would be another way of differentiating the games.
Gallade didn't exist in gen 3, this change makes no sense.
@c0mpu73rguy So? This is a remake that acknowledges the existence of Gen that comes after it. In universe, Gallade doesn't suddenly not exist in Honen because of the Meta reason because Gallade wasn't created during the creation of Gen 3. It makes more sense than Golbat can't evolve from friendship because Crobat didn't exist when Gen 1 was made. It is one thing I like more than the other remakes.
They should have done this but only because Audrey Hepburn has Gardevoir and Mega Gardevoir as her ace, so they couldn't repeat. Gardevoir is perfectly fine as rendering him a sensitive boy but with his own resolve. In Japanese, Gardevoir is called "She Knight" so despite the feminine body shape, the Pokémon is still a good way to describe Wally. Keep in mind GameFreak never gender-locked Gardevoir even if the evolved versions of Ralts are very feminine.
@c0mpu73rguy ORAS was supposedly in a dimension where the events of XY (where Gen 1-6 Pokemon are already known) happened at the same time so it makes sense why these evos are part of the regional dex now (and why references like Rotom can exist) - it isn't like FRLG and HGSS which felt more like retcons to the original releases IMO.
In defense of Zinnia, she may look like a jerk, but from her perspective, everyone else is willing to commit mass murder on a parallel world. You’d likely be a jerk too if you though billions of people might be killed without even having a chance fo fight for themselves. At least in the ORAS world, everyone knows about the threat and can take action.
Huh, never thought about it like that before
Zinnia strikes me as a rather machiavellian character. She meant well but she was in hiding throughout the entirety of the main story and only showed her hand in the Delta Episode. I feel like she was doing a lot behind the scenes, manipulating events and people to her advantage and she hides it behind a cheerful and friendly persona. If she were better written, she could have been fascinating. Kind of a "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" character.
As it stands, Courtney's easily my favourite character in ORAS. I'm autistic and clearly Courtney is too. I don't know if that was intentional but that's how the character ended up. In fact, it's obvious that she's on a more extreme part of the autism spectrum than I am. I also appreciate that they didn't rely on tokenism with Courtney and were willing to make an autistic character a villain who went so bonkers that she tried to bring a meteor crashing down on the world. That's a shitty thing to do and they didn't use Courtney's autism as an excuse. When Tabitha exploded at her and demanded that she apologise to Maxie, he was completely justified. She knew what she was doing but was simply past the point of caring because she couldn't deal with the emotions that manifested from the realisation that she'd dedicated her life to a fundamentally flawed cause. Autistic people tend to be kind of infantilized and treated with kids gloves but we can be arseholes too and I like that ORAS didn't shy away from that.
I think a character who could have been interesting if the games had bothered to give her any story was Lisia. Unfortunately, she was just kind of there and didn't contribute anything. If you're not interested in Pokemon contests, you have no reason to interact with her at all, aside from when she's first introduced in Slateport which was necessary to continue the game.
She doesn't know there are other worlds.
It's out of character knowledge.
She doesn't really have any moral high ground to stand on considering she told Magma/Aqua how to awaken the legendary Pokémon and nearly destroyed Hoenn as a result.
@@chase86903how? She straight up says it
Watching the video well after BDSP release, and I burst out laughing when he said Giratina is probably just sitting on it's ass in Turn back cave surrounded by Zubat, unsurprising, that's exactly what we got.
This is actually my favorite Pokemon game. Dare I even call it...one of my favorite games of all time. This is something that I have thought about for years now and...well...it just is. It has almost everything that I enjoy out of the series, including the nostalgia of the Hoenn Region and its amazing soundtrack, one of the best selections of Pokemon in the franchise, abundance of secrets and Legendarys to catch, a much improved Secret Base creator with online interactivity, Soaring, Mega Evolutions, and a more fleshed out story and epic battles, including one of the best Champions of them all, and the incredible final moments of the Delta Episode. ORAS has it all (except the Battle Frontier, but it doesn't really bother me all that much, despite what big a deal the ever-toxic fan base would have you believe). These days, Omega Ruby is the game in the series that I enjoy the most. I wouldn't trade this gem for anything! It makes me happy that it's getting the love and appreciation it deserves.
Give this one an award
I agree man
My thoughts exactly. ORAS, Hollow Knight, Mario Maker 2, and Bloodborne are easily my favorite games of all time
Agree, overall, I really enjoyed gen 6. (I do understand the complaints about the lack of BF though).
Honestly I got to agree. Probably just childhood bias but yeah Alpha Sapphire is genuinely one of the few Pokémon games I still remember fondly (the other being White 2)
Sad to say that I thought ORAS was not as good as I was hoping for only to come to the realization that it was the last time we'll have something that met and surpassed the bare minimum in modern games
Oras underrated
USUM aren't half bad either.
The soaring theme for flying with latias/latios is easily one of the best pieces in a Pokémon game
58:31 way too accurate 😭that wholesome origin story tho. feelsbad Masuda fell off hard
It was right on the spot... This one aged as wine...
I say ORAS is low-key S-tier.
While these games were ultra easy, they added a lot of things that made them good.
I dont understand how can pokemon be so blind as to ignore MEGA evolutions its a seller weapon.
As well as Oras ignored emerald BDSP will ignore platinum, or sell it as a DLC or sth.
(i cant fathom how they are gonna not give anything to the best trio of starters Gen 4) :(
Late reply, but I feel like it comes down to experience. These were the hardest Pokémon games for me (though they were my first, so that’s probably why), even harder than platinum and Black/White
@@Discount_Jesus it definitely was experience, you should replay the game sometime to see
@@G1nger519 oh I replay Alpha Sapphire on like a biannual basis. I still find Steven more difficult than Cynthia (yes that includes BDSP Cynthia)
I love Team Aqua
LOL
Agreed
pog.
If this were a movie, Team Aqua would have to sing a sea shanty!
Same
Alpha sapphire was the first Pokémon game I played. I get a massive nostalgia hit when I listen to the music.
Zinnia’s and wally’s battle themes are dope as hell
Judging from how big of a disaster the initial reveal of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl was and later seeing how little they really are adding. You're essentially paying for a glorified remaster of the original
ORAS definitely is probably going to be leagues better it. It's Not as good as HeartGold/SoulSilver, but it definitely does actually improve on many aspects of the base game/story
I think oras is a trash remake just because it doesn’t even acknowledge emerald and removes a lot of the things that made emerald special, I can say the same thing about bdsp, bdsp essentially removes everything that made platinum better like the battle frontier. Garbage remakes. A great improvement on ruby and sapphire but still a huge downgrade to emerald. Even then ruby and sapphire had a better difficulty then oras easy difficulty curve
@@GodSlayer330 Shut down your exp share and removed yours OP mega Garde with moonblast and oras will have a decent difficulty..back then most people are struggle to defeat dragon type like Cynthia's chomp and ghetsis's hydra,but nowadays just clicked moonblast and all dragons are obliterated
@@WheelStart even without the exp share the game is still rediculously easy, at times the game felt very tedious due to huge sudden random explosive spikes in difficulty since the game was primarily designed around the usage of the exp share making it hard in some areas and a lot easier in others and without the use the exp share the game can get a bit tedious because the game was not designed around keeping the exp share off. Same can be said about any of the 3Ds titles, the game in the 3ds titles were specifically designed around the usage of the exp share making it bit tedious if you choose not to use it, especially since each npc trainer catches up higher levels the further you progress and your Pokémon will be vastly underleveled if you do not use the exp share prompting me to actually have to turn it on and off at times to be at the appropriate level without overleveling my Pokémon or severely underleveling them. Pokémon games should be designed around not having the exp share, the exp share should be an option for those who want an easier experience but the entire structure of a Pokémon game should be based around not using it and if they are going to force us to use the exp share then they have to balance it out and nerf the exp share which they haven’t done in oras neither do we have an indication to believe that it’s being done in bdsp. The reason i can play the older Ds and game boy titles perfectly fine is because the older games were never designed around the usage of a broken exp share system making it easier to grind the appropriate level and fight the npc while keep it challenging enough. Modern games are designed around the exp share, if you choose not to use the exp share then the game punishes you for not using it but if you choose to use it then it also punishes you by making the game a breeze to play through.
@@GodSlayer330 as I said, don't used fairy type because it's the main reason why newer games are easier imo
@@WheelStart that’s not the main reason they are easier, sure fairy typing does make the game a “bit” easier. But what truly makes the game extremely easier is the unbalanced exp share and the fact that the modern Pokémon games are designed around its use. Not only that but the fact that the npc trainer Pokémon arn’t max IV’s.
Pokémon ORAS puts BDSP to shame. ORAS is a good example of how to make a good remake and expand upon the original
I agree in comparison to BDSP, but in comparison to HGSS it is a step down dude to the omission of Emerald content
@kickingbackpunchingcones4099except HGSS also removed content that was present in crystal so that's kinda just a dumb take
@kickingbackpunchingcones4099 You're gonna have to point me to those "30-50% of the content" you're referring to. I mean, I know you can't because you're wrong but you should at least try to prove your point.
Besides the battle frontier everything else missing are just small changes which are more than made up for by all the changes the remakes made to the story, the combat as well as the qol changes which naturally come with newer generations.
The moment when we went to outer space was a dream come true always heard a rumor that in the original if the research percent reach 100% you could go to the moon and fight deoxys
OR/AS community was the best IMO. I remember playing with a lot of people back in college but it kinda died down around Sun and Moon. Everyone was so hyped, there were group meets, mystery gifts, streetpass stuff, etc. Idk what happened but it kinda died down around gen 7.
I've believe I said this before, cause it truly gets better every video: this is your best one yet. You made excellent points too, and part of ORAS aged well from the game design to the hype season itself (there really hasn't been a hype season anymore)
@gebi speculation and elements of mystery before the game came out. You know, any possible the games could have
@@Hia_SuS I liked the hype season but I hated how they revealed all the megas
I was actually in the middle of modding oras to make the game harder by giving emerald teams with slight adjustments
I remember playing ORAS in 2015 when I was just 11. Got Omega Ruby, and I absolutely adored it. It made Hoenn my favourite region. Taking on the Pokemon League with the Blaziken line as my starter, taking on Team Magma, playing through the Delta episode, hunting for all the Mega Stone's. Gen 6 is where my love for Pokemon started, and I just started going playing again on my 2DS. Brought back some amazing memories and was a nostalgia trip I didn’t know I needed. ❤
this game may have ignored emerald but it took RS and made big changes to its story and gameplay, BDSP doesnt
also considering what we have heard of bdsps music, oras music is actually incredible
Even though I do think the Battle Frontier should come back, I´m not as distraught by it as it was never my thing, Platinum´s Contest and Black 2´s PWT was always more of my thing. To be honest, I´m more distraught about the personal villa not coming back in BDSP rather than the Frontier.
Edit: I should also add that no Battle Frontier also didn´t distraught me as much as I enjoy exploration and catching in Pokemon, and ORAS added new mirage spots and islands to explore, get items, and catch non Hoenn-dex Pokemon
Edit: I do think HGSS, along with ORAS added character to npcs like gym leaders as we got to see more of them in the post game, with getting all of their phone numbers, seeing them interact with each other when you get their number, such as with Jasmine & Erika, or Falkner & Janine, as well as you calling them, and them calling you back. For ORAS, I never seen this yet but apparently Roxanne hangs out with Steven in a cave, I also remember Flannery talking about Heatran from outside the cave it´s ring resides in.
All it needed was the Battle Frontier… And it probably would have been my favorite Pokemon game without a doubt
And an Exp Share that's at least customizable, why can't it have options that either you can have it be used only by 1, or have it multiple, that way they can somehow keep the difficulty curve but have an option of mass grinding?
And Emerald's story...you know, the two teams acting instead of one does other doesn't, when their goals are equally as dangerous ._.
@@GzzGtu20 but if you do that then it's not Ruby and Sapphire anymore. You're asking for the wrong thing honestly.
@@tldoesntlikebread and ? HG/SS still brought some stuff from Crystals, and the remakes *should* bring all the good stuff from the better games in addition to the new concepts brought by the actual generation (in ORAS case, megas, and the storyline with it).
Also, there's kind of a reason these third games exist, to give the "definitive experience" 👀
@@GzzGtu20 the crystal story hardly interferes with the story of Gold and SIlver in HGSS and I never said you couldn't bring stuff from Emerald, Battle Frontier is fine but the Emerald story is Emerald-exclusive, you can't put that story into Ruby and Sapphire. The third games are their own games, if someone said they're remaking Ruby and Sapphire, you should expect Ruby and Sapphire to be remade.
The battle frontier was the whole reason I got into breeding and ev training...
Damn shame they skipped that. Alas, Pike Queen Lucy, we knew thee well. You'll always be the queen of our hearts.
Oras was my first pokemon game, and it was weird going back to emerald and remembering all of it almost. I recently had to delete my ultra moon save which had a lot of event pokemon and like 3 boxes of legends, so now im going back through all the games to get them all again. This review made me remember a whole lot, and it was really well done too man.
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire was one of my favourite Pokémon games after Pokemon X. I never played any Pokémon games until X, and never looked at any dicorse for Alpha and Omega because I never went online for Pokémon stuff, I'd just play and enjoy it
To hear that people thought it was the WORSE remake, I was shocked, Pokémon Alpha changed me, it made me really love Pokémon cause I DID finish it, or at least watched someone finish it unlike X or Y
It'll always have a special place in my heart as one of my favourite Pokémon games
After bdsp, all I can say is that I’m glad we got a hoenn remake where I didn’t ask “ok now can we get an actual hoenn remake?” After the fact.
I have never seen such a detailed essay about these games. I totally agree with your opinion and also started as a kid with gen 3 and 4. ORAS brought all my friends back to Pokémon in our teenage years because it caught the feeling of past times. I think it levels the games perfectly to modern standards and graphics. The improvements it made to the originals are welcomed. To me it is disappointing that gamefreak ignores third games when remaking a generation. The battle frontier was *THE* reason to play Pokémon post game but battle maison was just a cheap x y rip off. One thing I haven’t noticed or I didn’t realise you’ve talked about is safari zone. Bdsp will be the first modern game since HG/SS to include Safari zone. to me it was not the biggest deal of it being missing from ORAS but it would’ve been a welcomed inclusion. In regard of Bdsp being released in a month I am not very hyped for the games. I liked the games as a kid because me and my friends could play the games with a wireless connection on the go everywhere. And everyone had these games even kids who wrent into Pokémon before had the game. I was also playing Pokémon battle revolution which was the only way back then to battle with 3d graphics. We imagined Pokémon to be like that as a standard in 10 years. Now we have 3d Pokémon for several years and it isn’t something new anymore. Also the fact that these games will only be 1 on 1 remasters worries me a bit. Game freak never did one on one remasters, every remake had some improvements and unique features over its original counterparts (I know about underground but is it that of an improvement?). I hope that they will do some special post game thing like Sevii islands. (maybe you can do a video about these some time :D) All in all thank you for your great and detailed content and all your efforts you put in these videos.
Shaymays video isn't an essay but it is pretty great
i just watched a 7h super detailed analysis about ORAS haha (posted by a youtuber called shoogles) i highly recommend that a watch if you haven’t! it’s very well done too!
Hot take: I think ORAS _is_ the best Pokémon game ever. As in, by a landslide. There's not even any contest in my eyes.
"The story is kinda silly (albeit entertaining) and it's a bit easy" are the only _true_ complaints I have; in almost all other ways, ORAS just _lets you_ go on an adventure of exploration and discovery at your own pace, and is _bursting at the seams_ with features that drive this gameplay theming home _hard._ Again... there's _no_ contest for me.
Yes!! Thank you, they're my favorite too. The games just let you do so many awesome things like flying on latio/as, knocking out 5 pokemon at once, catch a ton of legendaries, etc. Sure the older games had a better difficulty balance, but they were also far more grindy and didn't play nearly as smoothly as ORAS.
@@Jozombies115 Thing is, that's generally not even true. Try revisiting them these days; Pokémon has always been easy to spam a lot of A through, and HGSS specifically was _insultingly_ easy to degrees rivaling XY and SwSh.
I feel that too. I think ORAS is even better than HGSS.
@AniGaAG ya i got all 8 badges in a day
Best region, best music, best characters, best story, best pokemon game.
Happy ten years ORAS ❤️
Best games to shiny hunt! You can actually get all 721 pokemon if you have all four gen 6 games. Megas... man these games were truly amazing!
This is a well thought out review of Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.
The PokeNav feature in this game where you could find Pokemon with hidden abilities and egg moves was awesome. A great shame they ditched that after these games.
These games aren’t perfect, but I love these games, and they’re maybe my most played by pure number of hours.
I do have nostalgia for this game, as this game was the last Pokemon game that came out during my childhood before I became I teenager.
I fucking love ORAS. The story is deep, the characters are great, and all the quality of life features were amazing! But damn the Battle Frontier, why did they do that…
This was it to me the best remake outside of Plat and crystal (I never played HG/SS going to have to get a homebrew new 3ds for that ) but yeah that was Ultimately the one gripe I had with OR/AS
Edit- can't forget emerald
i absolutely loved these games when they came out, i found my first shiny using the dexnav! i loved getting into competitive too, this game has a lot of good memories :)
Zinnia’s battle theme went so hard.
That shit was peak.
In regards to gen 6 being the only gen you could get all of the Pokémon, I’m pretty sure that you could also do that in gen 3 if you include Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness (which why wouldn’t you they’re the best)
I managed to do it recently in Soulsilver using only gen 4 games, but to do that I had to use the pokewalker
You can substitute Colosseum/XD with Emerald as many of the exclusive Pokemon there became available in the post-game Safari Zone while you can get the Legendary Beasts in FRLG (although like starters, you need 3 copies of that, and unlike starters they can't breed).
Gen 4 also except the Legendary Golems, which while available in Platinum, can only be accessed with an event Regigigas, although the point of regular Regigigas is the use of cross-gen migration, that you needed to migrate the golems from Gen 3 games for it to reawaken.
@@zjzr08 What about Ho-oh and Lugia in gen 3 I’m fairly certain the only way to get them without the GameCube games is through the Navel Island event.
@@greenill6679 They are technically Event Pokemon during Gen 3 so they don't count.
@@zjzr08 you forgot that the only way to get the Johto starters in gen 3 without Colosseum and XD required completing the Hoenn Dex 3 times. So while it is technically possible, it's a tedious mess to complete the national dex without the GameCube games in gen 3.
Omega Ruby remains the only pokemon game to this day, in which I completed the national dex (except for Hoopa which came out after I was finished).
The details made the game crazy good. For example if you had surf on a sharpedo, you'd actually ride a sharpedo and be faster than normal.
DexNav was also an insane feature. Not only for breeding, but also for collecting, because it actually showed you, when you had every pokemon on a certain route.
The criticism of too much water is something, I don't get. Thematically it makes sense to have a region, where sea and land are relatively balanced. And I think you can't criticise a remake for mapdesign choices of the game they remake.
Man i fucking love ORAS. Ive always wanted to play gen 3 and after growing up too fast I bought a 3ds and finally got to play alpha sapphire. Has to be one of my favorite gaming experiences ever
People may love gen 5 now, but it nearly killed pokemon back in the day. Gen 6 saved pokemon again with XY and ORAS, I remember people jumping back into pokemon after quitting in gen 4/5 because it was so good.
These was my first real Pokemon experience. I have a lot of fondness for this game and still hold it very close to me but man I've really come to terms with it's problems
7.8/10 is a valid critique brought down by awful wording. The fact the land routes are so interesting meanwhile all the water feels repetitive and boring is pretty unfortunate especially considering they take up half the region.
I cannot tell you how many times I've heard the stupid "this is a remake of RS not E" excuse for the lack of Emerald content. Yes, stuff from RS should stay the same like Steven being Champion. But why in the world are we stuck with Wattson's and the Psychic twins's terrible RS teams and no Battle Frontier. We're just keeping out good features for "authenticity" which is stupid.
Don't even get me started on the Delta Episode. I hate Zinnia, the multiple universe stuff was dumb and poorly implented especially with later installments and it only got good in it's last 10 minutes.
StillI love these games an the Hoenn region. I hold a great respect for them even today. Pretty good remakes.
ORAS were my most favourite pokemon games, i just love gen 3
Gen 3 is purely amazing! The look! the feel! Claydol!
Claydol!!!
haven't watched the video yet, just saw the opening line about how ORAS could have been the best pokemon games and wanted to leave a comment. Ever since they came out I have been saying that if the gen 3 remakes happened during gen 5 instead of gen 6, they likely would have been the best pokemon games, since gen 6 is when gamefreak's design philosophy changed.
Gen 6 was good
Another thing about the difficulty is that the game gifts you a Latios/Latias before even collecting 6 gym badges. I found ORAS less challenging than XY because of this reason alone
Heh I think most people, myself included, just used them as hm slaves
Honestly ORAS was where I picked up again after dropping Pokemon after the first dexit. ORAS when using the flute was so much better than using an hm slave.
you forgot to include riding Kyogre in the water using Surf. best thing ever together with Latios/Latias flying
Tbh Pokemon Oras were the best remakes Pokemon ever made!
It's not just because I'm a gen 3 fan also because of the new elements added to the game. Why I think Oras is definition of best remakes you might ask? LET...ME.....TELL.......YOU!
1st of all instead of storyline being completely same as previous version Pokemon Oras takes place in alternate universe which gave a perfect excuse to make a reimagined version of hoenn. Yes you heard me right Pokemon Oras isn't just a remake it's a reimagined version of ruby and Sapphire because of new stuff like delta episode, free mythicals, ton of legendary encounters and so on; baseline of story and post game is way different than original and more fun.
2nd might I say dex nav was the best idea Pokemon came up with, it opened so much possibilities to play the game. You want egg moves? No need to breed use dex nav and encounters those Pokemons with egg moves. You want hidden abilities? Damn right use dex nav you have a chance to encounter Pokemons with hidden abilities. Aww! UWU shiny hunting is too tiering for you? Don't worry dear customers we got your backs 😁 we introduce shiny chain, thanks to dex nav if you encounter one Pokemon consecutively and continue the chain! You'll increase the chance to shiny hunting this way. (I became a shiny hunting maniac! Getting shinies earlier as 80-100 encounters)
3rd soaring feature added into base game mode (it did exist in gen 3 when they first came but eon flute was a event exclusive item so alot of people don't know about it's existence) . Now let me tell you all that soaring in the sky is way better than the good old fly hm. Not just it saves your slot of being used by fly hm but also you get to enjoy the feel that you can freely roam around the entire region. Might I say that is the best thing to do.
4th post game stuff, tho I am disappointed 😞 that they didn't include the battle frontier but battle resort ⛵ was kinda good enough at least better than nothing. Other than that dex nav now features expanded Pokemon encounters after you get national dex tbh the choices are really solid!
5th my god giving starter of every region is the best thing EVER! Instead of getting starters from previous gens not to mention the tedious transfer process; you just get to choose the starters you want. Well! Ik it's just one but who says you can use friends to trade so you can basically get whole set.
6th let me tell you I play Pokemon competitively! AND super training 😎 chefs kiss 😘. ITS....THE......BEST....THING..EVERRRRRR! It made ev training so easy that it's laughable. I wish every game implemented this feature this should be a core feature man! Poke aime also grate because Pokemon is basically a pet owning game! And you can play with them that was just too Great.
A criminally underrated set of games, and my second-favorite pokemon(after Black2/White2). Many of its features, like soaring & Dexnav, should've continued on in the series, and it feels like the last game with no pandering to another generation not their own and that most of it was done with love or with smarts.
"And it's also the only games to give you a romantic interest"
*laughs in Curtis/Yancy*
Oras is fantastic. I'd go as far as to say it competes with HGSS though I'm nostalgic to gen 3. Without the battle frontier everyone claimed the games were garbage. It was disappointing but... I think people overexaggerated how bad it was.
bro... same
ORAS really became the gen 5 of remakes and it shows
Primal dialga and palkia would've been nice since primal dialga already exists in mystery dungeon explorers of sky.
It would be different than Explorers of Sky’s version since that was called Dark Dialga in the OG Japanese version. While Groupon/Kyogre were straight up Primal even in the OG Japanese version.
This was my first Pokemon game, it will forever live in my heart as the very best.
Gen 6 was my second gen in the franschise these games have a special place in my heart
Pokemon omega ruby and alpha sapphire remain probably my favorite pokemon games of all time. They just came out at the right time, and were proper good games. Fond memories.
Best modern pokemon games
RIP battle frontier
My brain...
Horde battles could be induced in the wild via sweet scent.
How I remember this... well when I started this video I dug out my 3DS and checked my team... then saw sweet scent and remembered I was using it to farm.
You are right. I recently played through it again (and it's the reason why I played Pokemon in the first place) and it is 100 times better the BDSP will ever be
It brings me so much happy to know you got to be in the audience. So wholesome!
the oras version of sootopolis city is definitely my favorite in my entire series (aside from the elite 4 theme)
I firmly stand behind ORAS being my favorite Pokegames. I never played Emerald so I dunno about any lost features.
brendan and may are great together because they're the only protag pair who are canon in the games and the manga :P
Yeah, this definitely feels like the last game that cared about player feedback or giving the fan base what they want, despite ironically excluding things that we wanted
And the fact that this released alongside Super Smash Bros for Wii U, in reality, November 21, 2014 was really the best day for Nintendo fans in America.
Saved my day that was very sad, a hug from Brazil ;)
As someone who played Gen 1 & 2 and the skipped R&S to barely play through Emerald before taking a long break until X & Y; I have to say I absolutely loved playing ORAS. Maybe just because it had been so long since playing Gen 3 and Pokémon in general that I didn't notice missing content. But this was one of the first times in a long time that I had played a Pokémon game so extensively.
God, I wish I still had my strategy guide.
The ORAS games were very good. It may be bias, as these were the first pokemon games i had, but I genuinely think of them as good games! I recently replayed them, twice in fact, and STILL had a lot of fun.
Let's hope they don't fuck up gen 9.
I have fond memories playing Omega Ruby for the several days I was stuck in a hospital post-lung surgery when I was 17. It quickly became my favorite Pokémon game, but as the years went on I began to wonder if it was just because it helped keep me distracted during a rough time. This video reminded me that I wasn't tripping. OR/AS is goated.
Compared to the diamond and pearl remakea Omegq rubby and alpha sapphire are god damn masterpieces.
bro Pokémon omega ruby and alpha sapphire was the first Pokémon games I have ever played and there my most favorite Pokémon game in the whole franchise
It might not been my first Pokemon game. But I never got bored and restarted the game. I did restart it to try a different team and another for a better rayquaza and 90 soft reset attempts for shiny mudkip (gave up didn't have the patience or the attention to do it ADHD) I love this game for the pacing and the credits. Trust me when I say I watch it once but never again. For oras I watch it every time which kinda says something from my perspective at least. They also brought my two favorite Megas Rayray and fluffy puff the dragon sweeper. ( both are obvious nicknames but if you don't see it then ill tell you it's Rayquaza and altaria)
Altaria getting a mega was great you could finally show the ignorant people who say altaria don't deserve it's dragon typing by sweeping them out of existence. Shiny mega altaria is solid gold literally.
Do I even need to say anything about mega rayquaza and that 780 stat total only beaten by plot garbage.
40:32. To be fair, the original Gen 3 games were like that too, but it was time consuming to get every Pokemon.
honestly i think gen 6 was the last good gen if oras had emerald content and we got pokemon Z think it would of been one of if not the best gen
My only problem with the exp share is it makes training you team a little less special, like I had a Falinks in SwSh that I caught, had sit in my party, and then used maybe twice in the E4 after leveling it with exp share. It was just another body to fill in my team, I really like its design so it wasn't a problem with the Pokemon or anything. I think there's more investment when you throw your mons out into battle and watch them grow individually.
I too am a Gen 3'er. Hoenn is love, Hoenn is life. And ORAS brought Mega Evolution, the best generation-specific feature, to the best region.
didint X and Y bring mega evolution do 🤨
In general yeah, but ORAS brought it to Hoenn.
Oh boy the Cycle has returned, the hated is now underrated
XY is still meh though...ORAS is seen as exception to the modern Pokemon games.
Been a fan ever since I saw your 1st Pokemon video on this channel! I love how entertaining and informative you make your content and I couldn't relate more when you described how much you looked up to Masuda before but now are a jaded and cynical 23 year old
My birthday is also November 22nd and growing up it was always nice having my favorite franchise release their games a few days away lmao
Imagine pokemon Delta Emerald, with Wallace as champion, 2 Primal Reversed pokemons, and Mega Rayquaza, And both evil teams, the perfect gym leader teams, and no zinnia
I like Zinnia. I just think the game didn't use her very well.
There's this ORAS ROM hack called rutile ruby and star sapphire. They fixed most the problems with the game.
Honestly oras was one of my favorite Pokémon games…it turns 10 years old this year. When did I get so old?
Imo the best pokemon games ever made and yes I've played all of them I'm old I was a child when yellow , red , blue came out I've had them all and these ORAS imo are the best and my favorite which makes me and my opinion biased obviously. But the amount of content that was added imo was excellent I just got lucky and found a 2ds so I'm gonna get these again.
May be 2 years late but I will say that to this very day, ORAS still remains my favourite additions. And despite how short the story was (should've been longer), I absolutely loved the Delta Episode! Was the same moment Rayquaza became my favourite Legendary of all time! Then the battle in SPACE with Deoxys?! Might charge up the 3ds and play AS again. Though I will say that Zinnia needs to appear more! Felt like she was thrown aside entirely once the episode came to an end...
The removal of dumb rng was the best part in my opinion. It makes it much easier and pleasant to catch them and respects your time
You forgot to mention that before entering sky pillar you should battle Wallace with his champion team, that moment was so amazing, since I played only emerald, where I thought Steven will be champion, but it was Wallace
Can you really tell I like Wallace
ORAS was actually the first pokemon game i played through. And it's up there with my favourite pokemon games (i like the alola games. Yes. Sue me.).
Team Solgaleo or Team Lunala ?
Oras was my first pokemon game actually
I would even settle for the battle frontier being in Pokémon Z to tie Kalos and Hoenn together but that never happened what a missed opportunity
I know I'm late to this comment, but would you have preferred a Z or X2Y2? A leaked Twitter source code shows that we were supposed to get two XY follow-up games, so X2Y2 probably would've been more likely (or perhaps a proto USUM-ugh), but what would have preferred?
@@christianmckee2116 anyone one of those and also still missed opportunity of game freak
@@michaelfragoso6572 Yep, I agree. Probably the biggest missed opportunity to this day.
How one man's argument is destroyed by a single sentence:
"The Battle Frontier Project has started!"
Or/as as definitely my favorite way to play through hoenn, I don’t really care for the battle frontier being gone since I was never too invested in it. It may have to do with me getting into series later than others, but regardless, these remakes did so much to improve the original games for me to the point when I did play the originals, they just felt kinda naked to me???? Maybe that’s just my take but yeah I agree with you, these remakes are still really great and still did a lot to improve the og games. So I was overall content with these remakes.
Omega Ruby just took my favorite gen and made it even better, and it's my favorite Pokemon game of all