Bro, thank you so much! you have no idea how many actual questions you've addressed with this video for tonnes and tonnes of people across Scandic and European countries. Thank you
The reason the car briefly went into turtle mode may have been the 12 volt battery being cold. After 5 years my 12 volt battery started to die. The first day I went into turtle mode with the main battery at 48% and the second day the car refused to move at a stoplight on a hill. After about 10 minutes it ran fine as it there was no problem, but in the meanwhile the state patrol pushed me off the road onto level ground. I had not been in turtle mode but it just went into Service Propulsion Unit. But after 10 minutes I was able to drive home just fine. The next day I drove to the store and bought a new 12 volt battery and have had no problems since. It does not get as cold here and the lowest I have seen is 15 above, but normally I am doing my morning commute in 25-35 winter temps. I primarily use the seat heater and just have the cabin heat to 60 with minimal fan to keep the windows clear. I enjoy the car very much and in just two years I have only paid for window washer fluid and the 12 volt battery.
I have found when I am running my heat, if I put the heat on circulate were it is not drawing outside air it can use less battery. The coldest I have driven my car has be -18*, and my range was about the 50 miles also. Thanks for letting me know about the cruise control idea, I will start using that.
Unfortunately I cannot figure out a way with the climate control to keep the heater from turning on. every time its 'on' at any temperature, the range drops 6-8 miles.. even if I have it at a temperature where the heater is not needed. I wish these had the standard HVAC controls with more control over heater output and AC usage.
It would be very helpful to have the GPS unit installed so we could see how much power the cabin heater and battery heater are consuming. Thanks for making this cold weather video. You'll also get better range in the winter time if you start the car with it plugged in for 10 minutes before you drive off. This will preheat the cabin and the battery using (mostly) shore power instead of draining your battery.
I do keep an eye out for a used 500e tomtom. I know its an 8,000W unit, and I doubt its variable, so every time the climate is on and heating, it's like cruising the car at 60mph on the highway just to heat the cabin yes, thats true, however, I'm not the type to go out to my car twice on a cold morning.
I like the Fiat 500e a lot but the average trip to town and back for me is 97 miles round-trip. If this car had 125 miles of range I’d get one in a heartbeat.
1st and prolly first time it’s colder in Vermont than Minnesota, Btw it was 26 below this morning, my e46 and e 90 are doing well.. new batteries go a long way. Cheers
Dude! *Just* found this. I sleep in Eagan, live in Mpls. 2015 500e. Rock solid. I went from the Yokahmas to Roadhuggers; I blew out now fewer than three sidewalls on Hiawatha. Traction's fine, squishier but tougher so far, and cheaper. I love the car, but not knowing how the batteries work, exactly, is scary. Agreed; 45 mile range is about right for cold days... if you don't let it sit outside all day trying to warm itself up.
Great info for us 500e owners. I live in the Minneapolis area too. I charge my Fiat inside my garage with a level 1 charger and at worst during the sub-zero days am getting 45-50 mile range with heater on. As soon as we get back to 10 deg plus days I start seeing better range. My commute is 10 miles r/t so even winter range works for me. Question: Is it true that a level 2 charger while charging heats/primes the battery pack? This is something I read about in the Fiat 500 Madness forum.
I am not an engineer, but I would honestly say 'no' on that one. I have left the car unplugged outside after fully charging for a week in below zero temps, and the battery loses at best 1%/day. I have also tried leaving it plugged in, unattended for a week in the same weather and come out to the car similarly low on battery. The car seemingly will not pull power to condition the battery at 10 below 0 when plugged in. However, when the key is turned on and the cord is plugged in, the car will top off the pack (or try to) even while heating.
Awesome video! I live a little further north of you and this would the normal for us for a month or two out of the year. Last year in the summer I had been in the process of importing one but the deal fell through so I'm waiting for this year's influx of lease returns so hopefully I can get the one I want. I was under the impression that one could preheat/precool the car while it's plugged in, and if so, how much of a difference do you think that would have made on both the range and the Limited Power Mode? Also, it doesn't look like your model has the sunroof, but in your opinion, in a climate like ours, would it be silly to get one with a sunroof?
You can if the car is less than 3 years old and FCA is willing to transfer the account ownership to you. CURRENTLY after 3 years of age, you cannot precondition the car or the battery. If you are taller than 6 feet, dont even consider the sunroof, and if you're hardcore about range, also don't consider the sunroof. I have two 500s at the moment, and I vastly prefer the non glass roof.
I live in indiana , my 500e had a 32 mile range in -16 weather . That's was with it plugged in over night sitting out side . Also my tire monitor system fails when it gets cold.
ouch! I think I still had a 35 mile effective range with the heater on the whole time at 55mph at 10 below, but the range is almost unusable on cold days like that. the car drew significantly more power to charge as well after depletion. Mine has been parked these last two sub-zero high weeks.
Ovalbore , I drive mine every day ! But I could imagine driving on the freeway uses more amps helping the battery warm faster . Probably why your car did better
About to go look at this down here at a dealer in Florida. Seeing this work as well as it did in those freezing temps makes me think this car will work for me. Although, when it is warm up there how does the car perform with range (90°F+)? Reason is down here this summer was a hot one. Constant days of 90 plus. Also another question, I commute about 12 miles total trip for my job to my home. And it’s about 67 miles to my parents house, how would those trips look? Doable? Lowest temp down here is normally 45 and that’s at night during our short winter. The one I am looking to purchase is a 2016 500e with 8,000 miles. Thanks for taking my questions! Greetings from Florida
most of my cars have no air bags or crash protection what so ever, so I'm the wrong person to ask. all vehicles made 1997+ are actually DIFFICULT to die in. you seriously have to try to get injured in a modern car.
I live in St Louis and found this video super informative. Did you get your car shipped from CA? would you mind sharing the dealer name? also did you purchase this online, or in-person and ship from there? Thanks in advance!
fellow St. Louisan here too.. thanks for this video.. info has been VERY hard to come by on these cars in places that actually have weather! Like the armadillo migrating north.. it looks like former lease 500e's with very light use are migrating their way here.. and can be scooped up for well under $10k! My commute is 20 miles rt and the wife's is only 10rt.. I'm thinking that at least one of us should be able to get good use out of these. As another reviewer said.. if you're going to drive a boring car anyway, it may as well be an EV!
that's a tricky question to ask... it doesnt under regular let off the accelerator regen, but any time you have your foot on the brake pedal and it is in Regen, yes the brake lights are on
I also live in the twin cities and just bought a 500e. Do you still have your 500e? Is there an active forum or group I can join for twin cities owners? Thanks for this video!
I am considering purchasing a Fiat 500e as a 3rd car. I live in the Twin Cities area as well where we can get quite a cold snap once in a while. When it is -10F, what does the interior feel like with the seat heaters on and the main cabin heat fully on? Does it ever get comfortable, or does it just feel bearable? Also do the windows frost up? In my case I would be driving it just 5 miles each way to/from work, so the penalty in driving distance is not of concern to me. I am kind of spoiled at the moment because my ICE car puts out a lot of heat.
the heater is more powerful than the gas 500, so getting the cabin to 90 isn't an issue. range takes a significant hit though. Usually when its cold out, I'll leave cabin heat set at 60 degrees just to abuse the battery as little as possible. preheating the car when its plugged in to a 7.2kW Level 2 is where it's at. doesnt' pull car battery, and once the cabin is up to temperature, the additional power needed to maintain that level of heat is negligible. If the HVAC is off, the windows do fog. heated seat only has one setting, which is enough, but I wish it were hotter. WORST case with a healthy 500E, even if you leave it set at 90 degrees with everything on is 35-40 miles. If you're sensible and preheat the car, you should be able to get 50+ miles out of a winter batt. 70+ with a highway heavy mix in the 40+ weather. my car has the most degraded battery of any 500e in the owners group at 70k miles, about 26% lost capacity, my commute is 10.2 miles each way, and I can usually still do it almost twice on the worst days of the year.
@@OvalboreCars Thank you for your real world experience. Pleased to hear that the cold weather usage of the Fiat 500e sounds acceptable. Degradation of 26% loss at 70K miles seems to be excessive. I wonder if you will be able to have a warranty claim on the battery pack.
falls under 'regular wear and tear' They really won't consider warrantying a battery for capacity issues from what I gather. If a cell fails, that might do it.
Yep, there's a more recent video that I did just before the -38*F day -- car was fine.. on one of the days later in that week, about -7*F I had a random software glitch mis report my battery percentage, car dropped from 36% to 0% over the course of one mile. was able to limp another mile and a half to my house in limited power mode with no heat or whatever.. that was a bit sketch.. But yeah, on the -35 days, no issue. hard on batt, but car was a champ.
@@OvalboreCars and based on your other videos, you really are trying to break your car's battery. I wish you luck in getting a warranty replacement if or when that happens. :) What I'm more surprised about is the lack of steep degradation on your pack, given how hard you ride and your charging habits. Seriously looking at a used 2013 one in orange, after I look at it trying for ~$7000 or less. How is the manually adjusting lumbar support?
I'm thinking of getting one, I'm in Chicago, we get extreme cold and snow. I work 10hr shifts and I don't think there are chargers at work. I wonder if when I get off work will I still be able to get home? I work about 22 miles from my house.
probably not on the worst days. You guys dont get as cold, as we do, but you get as much snow. Chicago drivers also cruise a bit faster due to the much wider roads. winter, you'd really have to be managing your speed. 90% of days, 44 miles of highway is easy peasy, but once you start heating the cabin and the battery, it plummets quick. on a -38 degree day with no snow, I saw as low as 35 miles of range usable.
@@OvalboreCars wow you are right, it doesn't get that cold here. I don't think it's the car for me, I love the idea, but the range stops me. Because if I need to run an errand after work then I cannot specially in the winter if my battery will plummet. And I don't have a second car so I can use the other when I can't move the Fiat, also what if we loose power in the middle of the night and I can't go to work. I guess it's for people that work close to home or have a second car.
these really don't require servicing. topping up fluids and flusing the gearbox oil and brake fluid once every 100k is pretty much it. the local Fiat main dealer had no issue with the car when I brought it in for its final warranty checkup at 49,900 miles
John Squire I just got one for my sis the fiat dealership in Evanston apparently cab service them. I also have a Kia Soul EV and the closest Kia dealership that can service that one is in NY
I live 3 hours north of Chicago and am considering buying one for my 30 mile r/t commute to work every day. Anyone ever had to change out the main battery in one of these? Is it even possible being this far away from a dealer who can service it?
that commute should be no issue even in the worst winter days. not that I'm aware of. I have one of the highest mile 500es in the world and the pack isn't showing signs of giving up. battery also has 8 year 100k mi warranty against defect. any fiat studio can service these, but they basically don't need service for any reason.
After making this video, I plugged it in overnight, then unplugged it. checked back 3 days later and battery percentage was unchanged. I don't think it pulls any pack power to heat the cells when not in use. Uncertain about whether it does or not when plugged in JUST to maintain charge.
I see you're showing 57 miles of range with a full charge. Is that because of the cold or is that near what you get in range on that car? [edit: Sorry, question is answered in the video.] When I was looking for a used EV in 2020 (it would be my very first EV) I _almost_ went with a 500e but discovered that they did not offer DC fast charging even as an option. :( Anyway, I ended up with a 2016 Kia Soul EV+ and it is the best vehicle I have ever owned. Only paid $13000 for it with less than 18000 miles on it. Prices for used cars have increased significantly in the last year though...
the shown range is irrelevant. sub zero it'll do 35-40 miles. warm weather with no climate it'll do 75-80 miles. more with city mixed in, but its just best to plan around those limits ahead of time. SOUL EV has a much bigger battery, so that makes sense. good vehicle.
@@OvalboreCars The 500e would make a great second car even with those limitations (my wife and I both work only about 10 miles away from where we live). If it had a DC Fast charge port I very likely would have ended up with it instead because, at least at the time I was looking (late 2019-early 2020), prices for them were well below $10,000, with many being in the $5000-$8000 range. One big issue with the Soul EV is its boxy shape, but luckily I don't do very many highway miles. One thing I do know for certain is that I will never go back to an ICE vehicle. Driving my wife's 1996 Camry is like getting back together with your ex-wife, if I had one! An "ex", that is. Literally every person who has had a ride in my EV, modest as it is with only 109 equivalent horsepower, has said that their next car will be an EV, especially after I calm their fears about what it's like to actually LIVE with an EV by answering their questions (and squashing misinformation about how long batteries last, etc).
Also , the fiat 500e should come standard with a GPS that has cool features in regards to power consumption. It will display climate control kw usage motor power and other systems ! I. Not sure if you have it or aware of it.
on one under lease, yes. after 36 months, they disable the cell radio in the car and that functionality becomes non functional. some owners are attempting to reverse engineer this with a new SIM card, controller.
You can do anything with the car while it is plugged in except change gears. So you can start the car and turn on the heater/AC, radio, etc but cannot put it into drive or reverse until the charge cable is unplugged. I don't believe it drains the battery doing this but I live in south Texas so the temperatures are not too cold. It looks like the heater uses 1-1.5kw (found on google) after its started and you can safely get 1.8kw from a standard 110 outlet so as long as nothing else is using the circuit or you have a larger than 15amp breaker your battery should not dip below 99% charge. I have not noticed the battery dip below 99% even after the heater has been running for 20-30 minutes while plugged into a standard 110 outlet.
Yea, I'm not sure why it does that. For mine at least (2014), even if I just open the door it will drop to 99% while still plugged in. It doesn't ever drop any further though so I assume its no big deal and does not seem to actually impact the range. It is slow coming but I'm also getting a 220v outlet installed for car charging. The 110v has actually been able to cover the regular commutes perfectly but if we drive it any more than work and home it needs a little extra juice and 110v is just way too slow. Plus we should be getting our Tesla Model 3 in the next 3'ish months and will need the faster charger for sure.
Agree with Dan Sertich here, this is a VERY affordable (and I believe the cheapest you can buy) EV Hene193. So cheap in fact that it saves enough just in the gas alone that it literally pays for the low $100 a month car payment... Although there is still a bit of a price difference between sub 100-mile range EV's and long range EV's but they are coming around.
Fiat 500 2008 with 130k miles goes for 6000 euros where I live. It's not at that point yet where I can just go out and buy one for fun. Like 500e with 30k miles (2014) costs 19k. Maybe one day I can buy used tesla for 10 grand and then have fun by ripping off all the safety and just drifting in snow.
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I'm from the Netherlands, and saturday are we going to pick up our imported Fiat 500e from USA. Exciting!
very cool! do you have adapters to convert the EU standard level 2 plug for use with the J1772 US standard connector?
I do not know, but the company where we buy it supplies European cables.
should be pretty easy to make happen. the US 240v chargers should be wirable straight to an EU 240V plug
Why from the USA? On autoscout24 and marktplaats.nl are 500E's to
They're also imported from the US. Fiat only sells the 500e in the US at the moment, as far as I know.
Bro, thank you so much! you have no idea how many actual questions you've addressed with this video for tonnes and tonnes of people across Scandic and European countries.
Thank you
glad it helped
Always turn the car on and precondition the battery while it’s still plugged in with such low temps.
The reason the car briefly went into turtle mode may have been the 12 volt battery being cold. After 5 years my 12 volt battery started to die. The first day I went into turtle mode with the main battery at 48% and the second day the car refused to move at a stoplight on a hill. After about 10 minutes it ran fine as it there was no problem, but in the meanwhile the state patrol pushed me off the road onto level ground. I had not been in turtle mode but it just went into Service Propulsion Unit. But after 10 minutes I was able to drive home just fine. The next day I drove to the store and bought a new 12 volt battery and have had no problems since.
It does not get as cold here and the lowest I have seen is 15 above, but normally I am doing my morning commute in 25-35 winter temps. I primarily use the seat heater and just have the cabin heat to 60 with minimal fan to keep the windows clear.
I enjoy the car very much and in just two years I have only paid for window washer fluid and the 12 volt battery.
definitely high volt battery.
the warning for 12V is service propulsion system typically.
@@OvalboreCars Were you able to get it replaced under warranty? [edit: never mind. It seems that was a temporary issue, not permanent.]
Very informative. Thank you for posting this!
I have found when I am running my heat, if I put the heat on circulate were it is not drawing outside air it can use less battery. The coldest I have driven my car has be -18*, and my range was about the 50 miles also. Thanks for letting me know about the cruise control idea, I will start using that.
Unfortunately I cannot figure out a way with the climate control to keep the heater from turning on. every time its 'on' at any temperature, the range drops 6-8 miles.. even if I have it at a temperature where the heater is not needed.
I wish these had the standard HVAC controls with more control over heater output and AC usage.
It would be very helpful to have the GPS unit installed so we could see how much power the cabin heater and battery heater are consuming. Thanks for making this cold weather video.
You'll also get better range in the winter time if you start the car with it plugged in for 10 minutes before you drive off. This will preheat the cabin and the battery using (mostly) shore power instead of draining your battery.
I do keep an eye out for a used 500e tomtom. I know its an 8,000W unit, and I doubt its variable, so every time the climate is on and heating, it's like cruising the car at 60mph on the highway just to heat the cabin
yes, thats true, however, I'm not the type to go out to my car twice on a cold morning.
I like the Fiat 500e a lot but the average trip to town and back for me is 97 miles round-trip. If this car had 125 miles of range I’d get one in a heartbeat.
its a city car, really isn't designed to be a rural commuter. 125 miles you're stuck second hand with a Rav4 EV probably below the 15k mark.
@@OvalboreCars Thanks for the comment back. I used to live in the LA area and the 500e would have worked there but not where I am now, sadly.
1st and prolly first time it’s colder in Vermont than Minnesota, Btw it was 26 below this morning, my e46 and e 90 are doing well.. new batteries go a long way. Cheers
Coldest I've seen this season was 19 below on the hoonicorn. still started but sure sounded angry.
Dude! *Just* found this. I sleep in Eagan, live in Mpls. 2015 500e. Rock solid. I went from the Yokahmas to Roadhuggers; I blew out now fewer than three sidewalls on Hiawatha. Traction's fine, squishier but tougher so far, and cheaper. I love the car, but not knowing how the batteries work, exactly, is scary. Agreed; 45 mile range is about right for cold days... if you don't let it sit outside all day trying to warm itself up.
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Great info for us 500e owners. I live in the Minneapolis area too. I charge my Fiat inside my garage with a level 1 charger and at worst during the sub-zero days am getting 45-50 mile range with heater on. As soon as we get back to 10 deg plus days I start seeing better range. My commute is 10 miles r/t so even winter range works for me. Question: Is it true that a level 2 charger while charging heats/primes the battery pack? This is something I read about in the Fiat 500 Madness forum.
I am not an engineer, but I would honestly say 'no' on that one.
I have left the car unplugged outside after fully charging for a week in below zero temps, and the battery loses at best 1%/day.
I have also tried leaving it plugged in, unattended for a week in the same weather and come out to the car similarly low on battery.
The car seemingly will not pull power to condition the battery at 10 below 0 when plugged in.
However, when the key is turned on and the cord is plugged in, the car will top off the pack (or try to) even while heating.
Awesome video! I live a little further north of you and this would the normal for us for a month or two out of the year. Last year in the summer I had been in the process of importing one but the deal fell through so I'm waiting for this year's influx of lease returns so hopefully I can get the one I want.
I was under the impression that one could preheat/precool the car while it's plugged in, and if so, how much of a difference do you think that would have made on both the range and the Limited Power Mode?
Also, it doesn't look like your model has the sunroof, but in your opinion, in a climate like ours, would it be silly to get one with a sunroof?
You can if the car is less than 3 years old and FCA is willing to transfer the account ownership to you. CURRENTLY after 3 years of age, you cannot precondition the car or the battery.
If you are taller than 6 feet, dont even consider the sunroof, and if you're hardcore about range, also don't consider the sunroof.
I have two 500s at the moment, and I vastly prefer the non glass roof.
Your in Mass...I live in Springfield and I'm thinking of buying one.
Enjoyed.
I live in indiana , my 500e had a 32 mile range in -16 weather . That's was with it plugged in over night sitting out side . Also my tire monitor system fails when it gets cold.
ouch! I think I still had a 35 mile effective range with the heater on the whole time at 55mph at 10 below, but the range is almost unusable on cold days like that. the car drew significantly more power to charge as well after depletion.
Mine has been parked these last two sub-zero high weeks.
Ovalbore , I drive mine every day ! But I could imagine driving on the freeway uses more amps helping the battery warm faster . Probably why your car did better
agreed. I think if I kept the heat lower once I was warm, and the second trip of the day would have been much higher range
Do you use the app for your 500e? Can you precondition before unplugging then drive with heat on eco with heated seats?
About to go look at this down here at a dealer in Florida. Seeing this work as well as it did in those freezing temps makes me think this car will work for me. Although, when it is warm up there how does the car perform with range (90°F+)? Reason is down here this summer was a hot one. Constant days of 90 plus.
Also another question, I commute about 12 miles total trip for my job to my home. And it’s about 67 miles to my parents house, how would those trips look? Doable? Lowest temp down here is normally 45 and that’s at night during our short winter. The one I am looking to purchase is a 2016 500e with 8,000 miles. Thanks for taking my questions! Greetings from Florida
90 is no different from 40 in these cars - AC takes next to no power
How safe do you feel in the 500e? It looks like a great car for me but it hasn't been rated and I'm a bit worried since the regular 500 got 3 stars
most of my cars have no air bags or crash protection what so ever, so I'm the wrong person to ask.
all vehicles made 1997+ are actually DIFFICULT to die in.
you seriously have to try to get injured in a modern car.
I live in St Louis and found this video super informative. Did you get your car shipped from CA? would you mind sharing the dealer name? also did you purchase this online, or in-person and ship from there? Thanks in advance!
I bought mine in north hollywood and shipped it.
fellow St. Louisan here too.. thanks for this video.. info has been VERY hard to come by on these cars in places that actually have weather! Like the armadillo migrating north.. it looks like former lease 500e's with very light use are migrating their way here.. and can be scooped up for well under $10k!
My commute is 20 miles rt and the wife's is only 10rt.. I'm thinking that at least one of us should be able to get good use out of these. As another reviewer said.. if you're going to drive a boring car anyway, it may as well be an EV!
Does this car put on the brake lights when regen braking? I'm looking really hard at buying one of these... Killer deal for a commuter car!
that's a tricky question to ask... it doesnt under regular let off the accelerator regen, but any time you have your foot on the brake pedal and it is in Regen, yes the brake lights are on
I also live in the twin cities and just bought a 500e. Do you still have your 500e? Is there an active forum or group I can join for twin cities owners? Thanks for this video!
MN Fiat on facebook has a couple of owners, I sold mine but Im sure will buy another at some point. great little car.
I am considering purchasing a Fiat 500e as a 3rd car. I live in the Twin Cities area as well where we can get quite a cold snap once in a while. When it is -10F, what does the interior feel like with the seat heaters on and the main cabin heat fully on? Does it ever get comfortable, or does it just feel bearable? Also do the windows frost up? In my case I would be driving it just 5 miles each way to/from work, so the penalty in driving distance is not of concern to me. I am kind of spoiled at the moment because my ICE car puts out a lot of heat.
the heater is more powerful than the gas 500, so getting the cabin to 90 isn't an issue. range takes a significant hit though.
Usually when its cold out, I'll leave cabin heat set at 60 degrees just to abuse the battery as little as possible.
preheating the car when its plugged in to a 7.2kW Level 2 is where it's at. doesnt' pull car battery, and once the cabin is up to temperature, the additional power needed to maintain that level of heat is negligible.
If the HVAC is off, the windows do fog. heated seat only has one setting, which is enough, but I wish it were hotter.
WORST case with a healthy 500E, even if you leave it set at 90 degrees with everything on is 35-40 miles. If you're sensible and preheat the car, you should be able to get 50+ miles out of a winter batt. 70+ with a highway heavy mix in the 40+ weather.
my car has the most degraded battery of any 500e in the owners group at 70k miles, about 26% lost capacity, my commute is 10.2 miles each way, and I can usually still do it almost twice on the worst days of the year.
@@OvalboreCars Thank you for your real world experience. Pleased to hear that the cold weather usage of the Fiat 500e sounds acceptable. Degradation of 26% loss at 70K miles seems to be excessive. I wonder if you will be able to have a warranty claim on the battery pack.
falls under 'regular wear and tear' They really won't consider warrantying a battery for capacity issues from what I gather. If a cell fails, that might do it.
Are you still driving this? Did you drive it in the polar vortex a month ago? Very curious how this vehicle performed in those extreme conditions.
Yep, there's a more recent video that I did just before the -38*F day -- car was fine.. on one of the days later in that week, about -7*F I had a random software glitch mis report my battery percentage, car dropped from 36% to 0% over the course of one mile. was able to limp another mile and a half to my house in limited power mode with no heat or whatever.. that was a bit sketch..
But yeah, on the -35 days, no issue. hard on batt, but car was a champ.
@@OvalboreCars and based on your other videos, you really are trying to break your car's battery. I wish you luck in getting a warranty replacement if or when that happens. :) What I'm more surprised about is the lack of steep degradation on your pack, given how hard you ride and your charging habits.
Seriously looking at a used 2013 one in orange, after I look at it trying for ~$7000 or less.
How is the manually adjusting lumbar support?
how many miles are the tires good for?
I'm thinking of getting one, I'm in Chicago, we get extreme cold and snow. I work 10hr shifts and I don't think there are chargers at work. I wonder if when I get off work will I still be able to get home? I work about 22 miles from my house.
probably not on the worst days. You guys dont get as cold, as we do, but you get as much snow. Chicago drivers also cruise a bit faster due to the much wider roads. winter, you'd really have to be managing your speed. 90% of days, 44 miles of highway is easy peasy, but once you start heating the cabin and the battery, it plummets quick. on a -38 degree day with no snow, I saw as low as 35 miles of range usable.
@@OvalboreCars wow you are right, it doesn't get that cold here. I don't think it's the car for me, I love the idea, but the range stops me. Because if I need to run an errand after work then I cannot specially in the winter if my battery will plummet. And I don't have a second car so I can use the other when I can't move the Fiat, also what if we loose power in the middle of the night and I can't go to work. I guess it's for people that work close to home or have a second car.
Who does your services on the vehicle? I've thought about getting one, I'm about an hour north of Chicago so not as bad temp as you are, but close
these really don't require servicing. topping up fluids and flusing the gearbox oil and brake fluid once every 100k is pretty much it.
the local Fiat main dealer had no issue with the car when I brought it in for its final warranty checkup at 49,900 miles
Ovalbore thanks. I have a Volt and some Chevy dealers don't want to touch them
John Squire I just got one for my sis the fiat dealership in Evanston apparently cab service them. I also have a Kia Soul EV and the closest Kia dealership that can service that one is in NY
Would it make it with a 40mls rt on cold NE weather? No charge at work, so outside all day unplugged.
see my other videos. they will answer your questions
I live 3 hours north of Chicago and am considering buying one for my 30 mile r/t commute to work every day. Anyone ever had to change out the main battery in one of these? Is it even possible being this far away from a dealer who can service it?
that commute should be no issue even in the worst winter days.
not that I'm aware of. I have one of the highest mile 500es in the world and the pack isn't showing signs of giving up.
battery also has 8 year 100k mi warranty against defect.
any fiat studio can service these, but they basically don't need service for any reason.
Interesting, what if it wasn’t plugged in? Does it being plugged in maintain the battery?
After making this video, I plugged it in overnight, then unplugged it. checked back 3 days later and battery percentage was unchanged. I don't think it pulls any pack power to heat the cells when not in use. Uncertain about whether it does or not when plugged in JUST to maintain charge.
I see you're showing 57 miles of range with a full charge. Is that because of the cold or is that near what you get in range on that car? [edit: Sorry, question is answered in the video.] When I was looking for a used EV in 2020 (it would be my very first EV) I _almost_ went with a 500e but discovered that they did not offer DC fast charging even as an option. :( Anyway, I ended up with a 2016 Kia Soul EV+ and it is the best vehicle I have ever owned. Only paid $13000 for it with less than 18000 miles on it. Prices for used cars have increased significantly in the last year though...
the shown range is irrelevant.
sub zero it'll do 35-40 miles. warm weather with no climate it'll do 75-80 miles.
more with city mixed in, but its just best to plan around those limits ahead of time.
SOUL EV has a much bigger battery, so that makes sense. good vehicle.
@@OvalboreCars The 500e would make a great second car even with those limitations (my wife and I both work only about 10 miles away from where we live). If it had a DC Fast charge port I very likely would have ended up with it instead because, at least at the time I was looking (late 2019-early 2020), prices for them were well below $10,000, with many being in the $5000-$8000 range. One big issue with the Soul EV is its boxy shape, but luckily I don't do very many highway miles. One thing I do know for certain is that I will never go back to an ICE vehicle. Driving my wife's 1996 Camry is like getting back together with your ex-wife, if I had one! An "ex", that is. Literally every person who has had a ride in my EV, modest as it is with only 109 equivalent horsepower, has said that their next car will be an EV, especially after I calm their fears about what it's like to actually LIVE with an EV by answering their questions (and squashing misinformation about how long batteries last, etc).
Hi. One question: how can I set the Italian language on my 500e? Thank you
see reply in other video you commented on.
How do you change the cluster to the miles/kWh instead of mpge?
menu, vehicle off.
Also , the fiat 500e should come standard with a GPS that has cool features in regards to power consumption. It will display climate control kw usage motor power and other systems ! I. Not sure if you have it or aware of it.
long since gone before I bought it unfortunately. I'd love to see accessory power draw (my main review covers the TomTom)
Can you run the heater while it’s plugged in?
Yes. you need at least a 4kW input source to make that viable however.
Can you send me the link for the lowering kit ?
there is no lowering kit
How is your car sitting lower lol ?
I put some springs in it. they're not designed for the 500e, and it's certainly not a kit.
Madness makes specific springs to lower a 500e however.
Is it possible to start the heater while it's still plugged in?
on one under lease, yes. after 36 months, they disable the cell radio in the car and that functionality becomes non functional. some owners are attempting to reverse engineer this with a new SIM card, controller.
You can do anything with the car while it is plugged in except change gears. So you can start the car and turn on the heater/AC, radio, etc but cannot put it into drive or reverse until the charge cable is unplugged. I don't believe it drains the battery doing this but I live in south Texas so the temperatures are not too cold. It looks like the heater uses 1-1.5kw (found on google) after its started and you can safely get 1.8kw from a standard 110 outlet so as long as nothing else is using the circuit or you have a larger than 15amp breaker your battery should not dip below 99% charge. I have not noticed the battery dip below 99% even after the heater has been running for 20-30 minutes while plugged into a standard 110 outlet.
I have a 220 32 amp charger and it still looses percent when im running the heater and seats while plugged in.
Yea, I'm not sure why it does that. For mine at least (2014), even if I just open the door it will drop to 99% while still plugged in. It doesn't ever drop any further though so I assume its no big deal and does not seem to actually impact the range. It is slow coming but I'm also getting a 220v outlet installed for car charging. The 110v has actually been able to cover the regular commutes perfectly but if we drive it any more than work and home it needs a little extra juice and 110v is just way too slow. Plus we should be getting our Tesla Model 3 in the next 3'ish months and will need the faster charger for sure.
then the car is managing your battery too -- the heater and heated seat should be able to run on a reasonable level and not consume batt power on top.
how did you change it to mi/kwh
cluster menu ignition on parked
I can't wait until electric cars become cheaper and I can get to tuning them :P
I bought my 500e off lease with 32k miles for 6400.
Agree with Dan Sertich here, this is a VERY affordable (and I believe the cheapest you can buy) EV Hene193. So cheap in fact that it saves enough just in the gas alone that it literally pays for the low $100 a month car payment... Although there is still a bit of a price difference between sub 100-mile range EV's and long range EV's but they are coming around.
Fiat 500 2008 with 130k miles goes for 6000 euros where I live. It's not at that point yet where I can just go out and buy one for fun. Like 500e with 30k miles (2014) costs 19k.
Maybe one day I can buy used tesla for 10 grand and then have fun by ripping off all the safety and just drifting in snow.