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They are both elite. I knew a couple of SARC's in Afghanistan when I was in the Marines special operations for 9 years. One saved my life with my last deployment Afghanistan. I was shot I'm the hip and was losing a lot blood. I have a new hip now so thank God for there training.
Yes you can, but if you can pass the minimum/average scored events in the course. Even if you have a "never say die" mentality but if your body can't take it, you will still fail.
@@charliedelta988 That’s condescending and offensive. So called “regular” forces training, schools, and ascension has to be earned as well and is not just given to u or designed for u to “pass”. As with anything in the military, your level of dedication and application determines your progress and success and you definitely can fail or come up short. What does separate SF/ Spec Ops from “regular forces” is the few “regular” personnel that “wear out their knee pads” or “kiss ass” their way through training and their careers. Won’t say it doesn’t happen in SF/Spec Ops but it is a lot harder to do that because although you work as a team, your individual efforts are more closely observed and scrutinized leaving less room to blend in and be carried by everyone else.
@@aaronsmith9009 bro you posted this without any context to the actual video you’re referencing. He was suffering hypothermia. There was nothing he could’ve done since his brain was literally getting fucked up from the cold.
My Grandfather was a battlefield USAFFE surgeon during World War 2 and survived the Bataan Death March, my father is a general and vascular surgeon, and I am a physician. Much respect to these warriors who train and give their life to save others!
Made me think twice about wanting to be a PJ watching that section about the SARCs but then my desire was solidified as I watched the section about PJs
PJs get to go to all of the schools day one as a package deal with their training. SARCS you have to fight to go through some of the schools later on which is dependent on the unit you get assigned to. For instance SARCS do not by default get freefall halo training they only go to Fort Benning for basic jump school like the Rangers. Pararescue has a limitless budget and because there’s only a couple special forces career foot fields in the Air Force they have tremendous financing with all the toys and gadgets along with it.
@@AmericanWithTheTruth There are no "Special Forces" career fields aside from in the Army. And the Air Force has just as many Tier1/2 Jobs as any other branch, the only difference is we don't have basic Infantry or grunts and thus our battle field jobs are tailored as such. The budget is not "limitless" but needs to match whatever element a PJ, SR, CCT, Etc etc will be working with. Put simply the higher up the Tier organization you go the more funding you get, that is with all branches and career fields.
"When I was training to be an SP in the Air Force the "PJ recruits (most who you saw there didn't make it past that first school at Lackland AFB)" did PT all day long." ........fixed
@@richardstorm4603 I live right behind the first phase of special warfare trainees(right after bmt). They graduate this week I believe. There was like 40-50 of them when I saw them arrive, now from what I can tell there is only like 15-20 left. I mainly see them doing PT and rucking.
@@Justforfun-ek7et Thank You for Your Service...I have Much Respect and Love for they USN...BOTH of My Grandfathers were USN in WW2, My Mothers Father was A Tail Gunner on B52s stationed in the Phillipines and My Dad's Father was a Ship Welder and was wounded at Pearl Harbor !! I tried joining my Senior year of High School but was denied because I had heart damage from Rhematic fever I caught when I was 3yr old...It pissed me off knowing that something that was not of my own fault caused my being turned away and still does to this day...So Much Love and Respect to You and Everyone that Served and is Serving !!!
Yes. Its about 2 years long. After that they would have to attend continuation training in hospitals or something to further experience and enhance their medical skills for about a year maybe. And those assigned to special tactics squadrons have to attend the Special Tactics Advanced Skills Training, further about 6 to 12 months I think.
@Aldrin Abad why dont you look it up,were called PARARESCUE...And if you were ever wounded during combat and needed someone to come get your ASS during combat,YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO ASK
@Aldrin Abad I KNOW PLAYING VIDEO GAMES IN YOUR MOMS BASEMENT MAKES YOU AN EXPERT JUST FOR YOUR INFO I SERVED 11 YRS IN THE CORP 17 IN TGE USAF DID 12 COMVAT DEPLOYMENTS IN THOSE 28 YRS.. SO SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE AND TEXT ME WHEN YOU GROW UP AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE
Hey, just wanted to say, I'm a ten year EMT in my state and you nailed all of the medical lingo. Appreciate you getting it correct. And love the videos.
Im forever grateful for units like these, and in particular the pj's; who risked it all to get to me. If any (former) pj reads this. Thank you; you guys truly are guardian angels !
I did the PJ test in basic with about 12 other recruits from my squadron. Only 3 of us completed it, the other 2 guys made the score. I missed by a few points, but was told I qualified for combat controller. After the test the 3 of us that completed the course got a day off. One hell of a workout if you did that 3 times a week.
The reason PJs are sought after in SOF isn’t for their Med skills. It’s because they are the experts in technical rescue. So situations of complex rescue involving either ropes or extrication equipment. There isn’t a more qualified force in the DOD in these skills.
Also high angle and narrow space rescue and the specialized extraction of flight crews from aircraft with live ordnance. Also retrieval or destruction of high value documents or equipment and rescue or retrieval of submerged personnel from vessels, vehicles, or subterranean caves. PJ = Rescue specialist with small unit combat training, advanced trauma training and SERE skills. Able to integrate well in other military service's teams.
On top of that all PJ’s are top tier war fighters. Basically PJs can sneak up behind you, cut out your butthole, leave and you’ll never know until you realize your dead.
@@mountaingem6 all aircrew go through SERE in the AF and that includes females. SERE is nothing special but it is still a tough course. I went through AF SERE in 99
@@zebrajenksI went through in the 60s. How tough depends on what course you took. I mentioned it not because of how tough it is but because of the skill set is available to protect you and your patient untill extraction.
If you consider Reserves and Guard there are a lot more bases. Locations in Oregon, Kentucky, Southeast Florida, and I think a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.
Navy Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsmen ( SARCs) and Air Force Pararescue Jumpers, are Military Medics who are The United States Armed Force's Battlefield Badasses and Special Operations Shooters and SOF Medicine , par excellance. My Respect for Them. Ooh Rah and Hooah!!🇺🇸🦅🗽
I’ve worked with retirees who did roughly both. A corpsman who washed out of SEALS due to co,or blind, who after Corpsman school, ended up with Marine, SEAL, and shipboard assignments. A PJ from Vietnam era, and and one who retired mid 2000s, had to change MOS after his ear drums were blown out (never said how that happened). Owe some people with kind do, nothing is impossible attitudes. Only thing I can observe that the military is doing wrong by these folks is ensuring they have the civilian equivalent medical designations so they can pursue civilian medical employment after discharge. The Corpsman was clearly equal to an RN, Nurse Practitioner, or Physician Asst, but the civilian world was making him jump through needless hoops and expensive re-schooling simply because he didn’t have LPN, RN, Paramedic, or PA, after his name.
They both get paramedic qualifications but all those other designations rn, pa, etc have college degrees required so it’s not the military’s fault that they can’t go directly into the civilian equivalent but they will have an opportunity to get lots of the courses required while in if motivated enough without touching their GI bill funding.
I'm a civilian medical specialist from Malaysia specializing in lab hematology. If there were any options like these in Malaysia, I would have chosen them anyday over med. school. Medicine in the civilian side has gone down to money and defensive practice to save your own ass from lawsuits and finger-pointing. Feels like these guys are doing what every doctor should be doing in real life.... ....
There is a Royal Malaysian Air Force unit that is equivalent to the United States Air Force Pararescue Jumpers (PJs), the Combat Air Rescue Squadron (CARS) of the Pasukan Khas Udara (PASKAU). Or maybe u can join the Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance & Rescue Team (SMART), these guys are rescue specialists as well, but I'm not so sure on their medical capabilities. But to join SMART, u must first be in the Fire Service (Bomba), Police or military.
@@dallasyap3064 thanks. But it's too late for me at 34 y.o with a master's degree in lab hematology. These two specialty fields in medicine of pararescue and lab haematology are world's apart.
@@cloudstrife112 well I'm not very sure on the age limit for those units. But at least u are good at what u do right now. What's haematology? Never heard of this field before.
SARC !!great intel Guys!!! Wish I had this video to watch in 1986 when I attended the SARC PIPELINE... I was blessed with health and stamina to make it through!!! Now I’m old but Retired!!!!Go Navy !!
@@jetlee4life5164 got hurt referring to what? I fractured my knee in Sep 2019 and have 3 titanium screws in it.. would that matter? [edited for spelling]
Bravo Gentlemen ! I have great respect for both SARCs and PJs. They serve our country, save lives, and keep us free. Could you make a video on Army Special Forces vs. Marine Raiders. That would be a great video. Thank You Gentlemen.
When i first got in i was lucky enough to be befriended by a retired SF CSM from 5th group. Vietnam Vet, 5 tours. His entire Army career was SOCOM. He was a civilian who worked in our building. He had his DA retirement photo on this desk. 3 silver stars. Nicest guy, just a straight up bad ass, quiet guy. Again lucky he befriended me. I asked him once who the best were. He responded "The PJs, cause when shit hits the fan and a guy is bleeding out, they'll save you. Get you get home to your family." Never heard of them until that day. Have always held my respect. He has since passed. RIP CSM George Moore.
As a Retired Air Force Medic with advance critical care training , instructor, and CCAF career field degree. Tech school in the Air Force is a open head and pour system. I learn in 14 weeks what civilians learn in two years with a one second chance to retake a failed block.
pararescue stationed at mountain view CA, and Eglin AFB florida. Pipeline is 98% drop out rate more than seal.and they have to qualify in precision shooting and tactics, where they go into a sniper classes. They are reconnaissance and rescue.
I don't remember PJ pipeline having a failure rate that high though its higher than the Navy SEALs pipeline. And I never heard before PJ going into sniper courses before as well.
Not true, and they are stationed all around the world at a variety of either rescue or special tactics squadrons. I think they have the most different bases you can be stationed at than any other special forces group, especially if you add in the guard and reserve components. PJs also do not go to sniper or reconnaissance courses. These guys are all about combat medicine and combat search and rescue as well as CSAR. Attrition rate is around 80% depending on the class. Hard to say real attrition rate now though, say 100-150 guys start A&S, and 40 get selected, the 40 could be PJ, SR, or CCT, and who knows how many started the class wanted what. Attrition rate def isn't like the SEALs where 200 guys start a class and like 10-15 originals graduate which is what's happened the last 3-5 years per class lol.
They are both badasses!!! If I’m severely hurt in a remote location, I would prefer either the PJ’s or SARC to care for, and rescue me. Outstanding Americans 🇺🇸
Any Serviceman who starts off as a typical 68W in the Army, a Navy HM, a Coast Guard HST or an Air Force Medic, and then, decides to further pursue Military Medicine in an Special Operations Forces ( SOF) environment, has My Respect, because, He willingly chose to pursue a Career Path ,where, not only is the training and real world experience in Medicine and Military Forces Life is physically demanding, but also , mentally taxing, for He has to learn more on Health, Dentistry, Math and Science and Biology, and ,must stay on top of the technology with new TTPs, to treat wounded and killed off Fighters, both Friend and Foe, in Action and Active Combat Operations Downrange.🇺🇸💣💥
The only thing I would disagree with is that PJs are attached to SOF units because of their medicine. They are attached because of the RESCUE aspect first (roping, dive qual, etc), with the ability to perform paramedic level medicine for stabilizing during the extraction (some get further qualifications).
@@zebrajenks agree it is. Have no first hand experience but from very close friends they are studs at more than just medicine. In his words “we have to get to you first, and get you out second”.
All a green beret really is is doing a shit load of trading deploying and training for example Iraqi soldiers then when there done training them they go on a mission.
@@joshuastaugler9424 Agree with that, that's why i'd be nice to see some comparisons between them given Marine Raiders also have foreign internal defense as their main task.
Apples and oranges. Raiders are more comparable to seals, direct action. SF are really a field of their own. Their job is mainly to support and train guerillas, unconventional war, and something called FID.
Dang just enlised plan on using the OTS program to become an officer, then to into Pjs....tough stuff lol Never heard of Sarcs looks like there just as hard, Respect both braches cant wait to join the brotherhood
@@dallasyap3064 Yea, at least in the Navy. I was a Corpsman with the Marines for 9 years. 23 Medals of Honor, 179 Navy Crosses for Corpsmen. There have been 6 Seals to receive the Medal of Honor. The reason Corpsmen are the most decorated is because they are in combat with every Marine unit, so by the numbers we have experienced more combat over the years, because there are always far more Marine units in a war than Seals. Seals were started in Vietnam, as well, whereas Corpsman have been in combat long before then, earning MoH in WWII and before.
DOE/NNSA transport security. We've talked about it but I just wanted to remind you. I know people don't request it but they will enjoy finding out about them. And maybe it could give a veteran a job opportunity.
I’ve been out of the military since 2018 and I watch all these videos like I’m about to try out or something lol. But what’s worse is I was in the Army not the Marines or Air Force. I was stationed at Bragg in the 82nd Airborne Division but I still find all these videos of different Units fascinating nonetheless and will watch every single one of them lol.
It's common sense when you combine the strength of each of these special Operation type units you end up with a moving package that is almost completely effective, you know bringing the whole thing! And those that I know that have operated on missions that involve multi-service components always have high reviews of each other, so common sense that is the lethal package, I was a boom operator in the Air Force and our squadron next door to afsoc and we supported them on real world sorties often, great group of guys super professional, and ridiculously good at what they do, I'll leave it at that. 🤘🇺🇲
Wassup general discharge! Another excellent vid, I'm hoping to enlist as a "35M Human intelligence collector", hope you and you're crew got time to crank a vid on that process for us, holler!
love these videos it just makes me respect these warriors more and more but I was wondering I’m from Canada and would like to see a video of the Canadian Special forces and what they do as I kinda have a dream for jtf2 right now
Been waiting for this one! I’d I could go back 30 years I would have loved to be a SARC! But I’m not a good swimmer and I’m afraid of heights! 😬. I never knew they were attached with DEVGRU. I heard one SARC say, SARC are shooters first that do awesome medicine. PG’s are rescue medical professionals who are awesome shooters.
Technically SARCs are recon first, cuz they are attached to Force Recons mostly who do more green operations than black operations. They only execute direct action if necessary and usually limited.
@@dallasyap3064 SARCs are with both Force and Division Recon, in fact of the three places you go as a SARC Force Recon has the fewest, because they are smaller than Recon Battalion (AKA Division Recon) and MEF level asset. Force is a company size unit. All Marine Raider teams have SARCs too, and function as part of the team. Every 5-man tactical element of the MSOT has a SARC and they shoot and move like a CSO. Our MARSOC attachment when I was in Afghanistan got some on the regular. Also Marine Recon units deployed in our AO did more direct action that green ops, because that was the nature of the mission there.
@@dallasyap3064 time and overlap, really. ITC takes Marines from line units as well as Recon, so covers a lot of the same skills that the recon pipeline does. Since SARCs have gone through a lot of that, it's enough to be able to shoot and move with the team, and between going to a team and deployment, training workups are in depth enough that they'll cover the gap. You could argue that recon marines could do the same, and they did in the early days, but with CSO being an actual MOS they need to go through the course. Plus most recon marines haven't gone through the full pipeline like SARCs, each platoon will have jump and dive teams and most e-5 and below will have only gone through one, whereas the SARC goes through all of them.
@@esteebo each platoon will have jump and dive teams. U are referring to Division Recons right? Cuz I remember Force Recons need to be both jump and dive qualified.
FYI Not all PJs will be assigned to SOF though, my brother in law was a PJ and he said he never once came into contact with a SOF unit during his time in the military
Just like some SARCS are assigned to Force Recon. Which is NOT a SOCOM unit. BOTH SARCS and PJs are trained to the standard and can move laterally in to their respected services SOCOM units.
PJ. No contest. Combat medic/paramedic, advanced tactical practitioner, combat divers, aircrew qualified, mountaineer/ropes expert, rescue swimmer qual’d, MUST become a static-line, free-fall jump master, AIE master, and dive supervisors. Many are tandem masters and don’t forget confined space rescue skills. PJs are truly the jack of all trades. Much respect to SARC’s but there is no comparison.
@Coltin M Based on what? PJs can operate unilaterally and unsupported. Meaning they can provide their own security in a fight. I’d like to know why you’d choose a SARC over a PJ in a firefight. Disclaimer: I have immense respect for SARCs. I absolutely nothing negative to say about them.
@@jeffg3975 if I'm not mistaken, PJs don't need to be qualified as a MFF jumpmaster or as a diving supervisor. I'm not sure what's AIE master. Yeah they are jack of all trades, but in terms of rescue and recovery of personnel, as they are rescue experts. SARCs can compare to PJs in terms of medical skills. In fact SARCs are trained to provide, other than just emergency care, prolonged care. They attend SOCM and then the 18D course or their own SOIDC course.
@Coltin M actually PJs are also trained in direct action, especially its STS PJs. SARCs are attached mostly to Force Recons, but occasionally are also attached to Marine Raiders, Navy SEALs or even SEAL Team 6. As a corpsman mainly attached to reconnaissance unit which mostly conduct green operations, they wouldn't do much direct action raid. Force Recons' (including attached SARCs) direct action are limited.
@@dallasyap3064 PJs are required to become MFF JMs and Dive Sups to pick up E-6. It’s part of their Team Leader upgrade requirement. PJs shifting gears a while back and introduced prolonged field care into their medical practice. As a matter of fact the current PJ med handbook was adopted by FBI HRT and I believe NSW. I hold an insanely high regard for SARCs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are more medically proficient than PJs because PJs have a broad skill set to maintain in conjunction with tactical medicine.
@@jeffg3975 I see your point with the team leader upgrade. But for prolong care, never heard of it being introduced in the PJ medical field. Couldn't find sources of it either. But NSW doesn't follow PJ med handbook. It's medics attend SOCM, a seperate medical course from the PJ's paramedical training, which I don't know why they need to seperate them. Selected NSW medics may attend the 18D course but usually rare. All Navy SARCs attend either the 18D course or the SOIDC course after completing SOCM. So yeah I would say SARCs are more medically proficient than PJs in long term care, but as we know the PJs have a wide variety of rescue techniques and tactics to maintain as rescue experts apart from their highly trained emergency medical training, some are attached to STS would have to maintain additional special operations skills as well.
Could be stuck in raft in the middle of North Atlantic in a Typhoon, or shot down bleeding out a 100 miles behind enemy lines, only dudes capable of goin in a rescuing your ass are PJ's, not a Corpsman.
Yep. PJs will either covertly get to you or will fight their way to your location using small unit tactics, medically stabilize you and do the reverse getting out......either covertly or fighting to get you out of the hotzone and back to base. PJs don't have the luxury of having a batallion backing them up.
Yes bcoz PJs are apart from expert emergency medical personnel, they are also expert rescue specialists. So yeah when it comes to such situations, make sure u bet on the PJs. But SARCs are great too, not making them look bad, it's just they have different missions and jobs.
A PJ would be more helpful in the North Atlantic in a Typhoon if the Coast Guard or Navy rescue swimmer isn’t nearby, though a SARC can also rescue someone’s ass 100 miles behind enemy lines if that SARC and his Marine or SEAL buddies are close enough on some assault ship. Air Force F-16 pilot Captain Scott O’Grady was rescued by Marines and Corpsman in Bosnia when he was shot down in 1995.
Great video! Can you please cover NCIS? Including its roles while assisting Navy Special Warfare as a counterintelligence support group, and its REACT team.
Where was all this back in 1966? I was drafted by, US Army, 3-wks after grad from H.S. I had my "ARC Adv First Aid and ARC WSI Cards". So I attended Army Medical Training; (91A-10, 91B-20). Then was assigned to Operating Room Specialist School (91D-20). After completion they assigned me to their First Assistant Program, (91D-2FA). I was able to assist the Surgeon in the Operating Proced's. I was sent to Vietnam, 1967-1969. My last tour of duty was with 159th DUST-OFF and I was Hooked. If I wasn't DEROS'D, for my DD-214 I would have re-enlisted. Thank you for your presentation. Eventhough it makes me feel like a "Slacker", with my training?
If you want to find out if you have even a 25% of passing any of the special forces selection training, start off by seeing if you meet their minimum physical requirements. After you complete the test, if you failed, go train harder or find another job. If you passed, do the test again immediately after completing the first test, and repeat the over and over again for the next six hours. Then take a short lunch break and start repeating the test again for another 6 hours. If you quit or your scores aren’t still meeting the minimum requirements by the end of the day, you need to go train harder or find another job. If your scores are still meeting the standards after repeating the test all day, then go get 5-6 hours of sleep, and repeat day 1 everyday until you either quit, or successfully complete 8 straight weeks of this. If you complete the 8 weeks, congrats, you now have a 25% chance of becoming a special operator.
I originally had a sarc contract before medical complications causing me to drop from the navy. They test you on your PST at a school a couple weeks in. You will be out of shape for Sarcs do not go through 800 divs in boot. So be prepared as much as you can going into boot because you will not have time after. As well the HM-ATF contract for SARCS RELYS HEAVILY ON PST SCORES. With that being said you will be competing against other candidates to be SARC. If you don’t make the cut you will either be a DMT OR SAR. Make sure your grades are top notch too. Just some tips I’ve learned before I started my pipeline that friends who went through and failed told me.
The question of my life. Prior marine 0311 finishing up my Bachelor’s in nursing. I’ve debated these two with 18D to use my nursing degree with but maintain SOF experience.
Dude, go 18D. Unfortunately, MARSOC, while under SOCOM, has too many issues plagued by the incompetent leadership that plagues all of the Corps. If you research you will see how many people don’t stay long in MARsoc unlike SF.
@@Lifechanging99999 I appreciate that. I’m very familiar with how the corps is fucked. I just want to be a medic where I am actually in the shit with the guys and I’m still using my nursing school knowledge. So when I get out, I can still become a nurse
Go 18D or get a 68W Option 40. It has more built in safety nets if you don't make it to those units as the Army will put you in the Infantry as a medic. Alot guys that fail the SARC route still end up blue side rather than green. Failing the PJ route also gets you absolutely nothing which out of the units we are discussing is physically the hardest to pass. Lastly check out USAF SOST very special job but good place to be if you're a Nurse that wants to work SOF.
@@julianvalles7154 I would go SARC if I was you. I was an HM, and I did the last 7 years of my 10 on active duty with the Corps. You already know how the Corps runs. Further, being "Doc" has it's perks and you also probably know. Further, if you want to go NP you'll be closer to that with SARC because they are trained to nearly PA level. You will also get more with hyperbaric medicine which you probably know is used to treat more and more head trauma and in wound clinics. You'll be more marketable when you combine your RN skills with those of a SARC. The Navy has a Nurse Corps as well.
Thats contradicting to what i heard, i hear that SEALs are converting to using PJs more than anything now, my source is pretty reliable too. Not in any way trying to say you are wrong, just tossin it out
There are many vids on TH-cam showing PJ's attached to DamNeck teams. Pj's have been on the rescue of Pvt. Jessica Lynch, OBL raid, "Blackhawk down", PJ's picked up F-117 Pilot Lt. Col. Dale Zecko...etc.
I thought that pjs could be stationed in Alaska, because I read a book about someone becoming a pj and he was in Alaska, doing search and rescue missions up there
So from what I got from this video, SARCs are more so in the field alongside battle medics, and PJs are the rescue medics. Someone correct me if I’m missing something.
Okay not all SARC’s are SO/IDC’s. You still have to go to IDC school while 84 series NEC’s are IDC NEC’s for Surface, Deep Sea Diving, And Submarine. The SARC NEC is 8427 but that’s Just SARC after SO/IDC school you get the NEC of 8403. Also you just don’t get augmented to DEV you still have to put in a package and screen like every other rate. Even Support rates screen not just SO’s. And before you try to correct me I’m a 8494 Deep See Dive (DMT) and worked with SDV. If you wanna be a SARC you need a HM contract and then screen with the Recon recruiter to start the pipeline.
From what I understand every HM-ATF contract that is selected for SARC is getting the full SO/IDC training nowadays. Just take a look, its right on the Navy website.
@@juliam1017 yes you get the full pipeline. However just cause you get the Pipeline does not mean you’ll complete IDC school. What I’m saying is that SO/IDC is a different NEC from SARC. You can still get the 8427 but that doesn’t mean you’ll get 8403.
@@TheFloresj23 You sure about all this? It say right on the Navy website that if you are selected for SARC out of Corpsman A school you get the full 121 weeks of training which includes SOCM and the full SO/IDC schools. You can enlist directly into it via an HM-ATF contract. I know that all of this are recent changes as well. I'm pretty sure the Navy is going away from there being SARCs with different levels of medical training and giving all new trainees the full pipeline in contract.
@@juliam1017 yes I know what it says but what you’re not understanding is it’s not continuous. Unless it changed last month. IDC school is a Core School (C-School) which you attended after making 2nd class PO (E5) again I’m a DMT but from the SARC’s I know it was after. And again if you fail the school you’re still a SARC just not a IDC I’m gonna hit my boys up and get it straight from them and let you know
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Air Force EOD vs Navy EOD
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@@elijahmparker2218 Easily, anyone in the know, Navy EOD!
@@JD-dm1uj yeah I still just want to see an in depth comparison
Seal vs pj
Marine Corp infantry vs US Army infantry just to start shit.
Kind of like Ferrari vs Mustang.
Kevin W: I AM thinking more like Dodge Ram HEMI versus Toyota TRD.
lik thor vs hulk
Kevin W ferarri is a company, mustang is a specific model....
Nah, Navy EOD should be next.
They are both elite. I knew a couple of SARC's in Afghanistan when I was in the Marines special operations for 9 years. One saved my life with my last deployment Afghanistan. I was shot I'm the hip and was losing a lot blood. I have a new hip now so thank God for there training.
Marine “special operations” but can’t differentiate “there” and their… sure.
@@trashpanda314 they are still marines lol
@@LarsxLeia 😂😂😂
@@trashpanda314 that's how you know he was a Marine
@@trashpanda314 also, he is not presenting a thesis, so their you go.
It all sounds really difficult, however all military schools are made to be passed if you have a never quit attitude and a team player personality. 🇺🇸
Still a no quitter is better than a mentally weak person.
Yes you can, but if you can pass the minimum/average scored events in the course. Even if you have a "never say die" mentality but if your body can't take it, you will still fail.
@@charliedelta988
That’s condescending and offensive. So called “regular” forces training, schools, and ascension has to be earned as well and is not just given to u or designed for u to “pass”. As with anything in the military, your level of dedication and application determines your progress and success and you definitely can fail or come up short. What does separate SF/ Spec Ops from “regular forces” is the few “regular” personnel that “wear out their knee pads” or “kiss ass” their way through training and their careers. Won’t say it doesn’t happen in SF/Spec Ops but it is a lot harder to do that because although you work as a team, your individual efforts are more closely observed and scrutinized leaving less room to blend in and be carried by everyone else.
Sounds like a Leg response.
@@aaronsmith9009 bro you posted this without any context to the actual video you’re referencing. He was suffering hypothermia. There was nothing he could’ve done since his brain was literally getting fucked up from the cold.
My Grandfather was a battlefield USAFFE surgeon during World War 2 and survived the Bataan Death March, my father is a general and vascular surgeon, and I am a physician. Much respect to these warriors who train and give their life to save others!
You sir come from a family of medical badass's!!!
General? Come on, give us the last name..
Your grandfather is a trooper all right. Dude survived on of the worst war crimes in the history of conflicts.
Have to explode tunnels from each end at the same time explosion goes in ward and tunnel board it up from outside
@@homiepat5469 after Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Made me think twice about wanting to be a PJ watching that section about the SARCs but then my desire was solidified as I watched the section about PJs
I would choose PJ.
Yup, I'm with ya there too pal. PJs for me too.
you dont know what you wanna do be honest
PJs get to go to all of the schools day one as a package deal with their training. SARCS you have to fight to go through some of the schools later on which is dependent on the unit you get assigned to. For instance SARCS do not by default get freefall halo training they only go to Fort Benning for basic jump school like the Rangers. Pararescue has a limitless budget and because there’s only a couple special forces career foot fields in the Air Force they have tremendous financing with all the toys and gadgets along with it.
@@AmericanWithTheTruth There are no "Special Forces" career fields aside from in the Army. And the Air Force has just as many Tier1/2 Jobs as any other branch, the only difference is we don't have basic Infantry or grunts and thus our battle field jobs are tailored as such. The budget is not "limitless" but needs to match whatever element a PJ, SR, CCT, Etc etc will be working with. Put simply the higher up the Tier organization you go the more funding you get, that is with all branches and career fields.
Never heard of SARC before. When I was training to be an SP in the Air Force the PJ'S did PT all day long. They never stop.
"When I was training to be an SP in the Air Force the "PJ recruits (most who you saw there didn't make it past that first school at Lackland AFB)" did PT all day long." ........fixed
@@richardstorm4603 🤣 True
@@richardstorm4603 I live right behind the first phase of special warfare trainees(right after bmt). They graduate this week I believe. There was like 40-50 of them when I saw them arrive, now from what I can tell there is only like 15-20 left. I mainly see them doing PT and rucking.
You can’t go wrong with either, both are amazing opportunities. Joining the Navy many years ago was easily one of the best decisions of my lifetime!
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Agreed, best decision I made as a young man.
what was or is your mos?
@@mr.pumpkine8070 whom are you addressing? I was 8404 if you were asking me.
@@Justforfun-ek7et Thank You for Your Service...I have Much Respect and Love for they USN...BOTH of My Grandfathers were USN in WW2, My Mothers Father was A Tail Gunner on B52s stationed in the Phillipines and My Dad's Father was a Ship Welder and was wounded at Pearl Harbor !! I tried joining my Senior year of High School but was denied because I had heart damage from Rhematic fever I caught when I was 3yr old...It pissed me off knowing that something that was not of my own fault caused my being turned away and still does to this day...So Much Love and Respect to You and Everyone that Served and is Serving !!!
The PJ pipeline is known as "Superman School" for a reason. 🇺🇲
Yes. Its about 2 years long. After that they would have to attend continuation training in hospitals or something to further experience and enhance their medical skills for about a year maybe. And those assigned to special tactics squadrons have to attend the Special Tactics Advanced Skills Training, further about 6 to 12 months I think.
^that is factual
As a retired 1T291,but my indoc was in 95 and the pool was where we either made it,DOR or failed..Best 17yrs of my life...
@Aldrin Abad why dont you look it up,were called PARARESCUE...And if you were ever wounded during combat and needed someone to come get your ASS during combat,YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO ASK
@Aldrin Abad I KNOW PLAYING VIDEO GAMES IN YOUR MOMS BASEMENT MAKES YOU AN EXPERT
JUST FOR YOUR INFO
I SERVED 11 YRS IN THE CORP
17 IN TGE USAF
DID 12 COMVAT DEPLOYMENTS IN THOSE 28 YRS..
SO SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE AND TEXT ME WHEN YOU GROW UP AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE
Hey, just wanted to say, I'm a ten year EMT in my state and you nailed all of the medical lingo. Appreciate you getting it correct. And love the videos.
Like no offense . I just can't . Nevermind
PJs are EMT certified from the start . Like..
Lol
Im forever grateful for units like these, and in particular the pj's; who risked it all to get to me. If any (former) pj reads this. Thank you; you guys truly are guardian angels !
Only had to meet a SARC once. Dudes are mad lads. Brother said he met a few PJs and said they were actually pretty chill guys
Next do Subway Sandwich Artist vs Coast Guard
Hahaha now that’s just cold blooded
Lmfao that's just wrong!
Stop picking on the rowboat sailors lol
I'm actually confused with this
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I did the PJ test in basic with about 12 other recruits from my squadron. Only 3 of us completed it, the other 2 guys made the score. I missed by a few points, but was told I qualified for combat controller. After the test the 3 of us that completed the course got a day off. One hell of a workout if you did that 3 times a week.
The reason PJs are sought after in SOF isn’t for their Med skills. It’s because they are the experts in technical rescue.
So situations of complex rescue involving either ropes or extrication equipment.
There isn’t a more qualified force in the DOD in these skills.
Also high angle and narrow space rescue and the specialized extraction of flight crews from aircraft with live ordnance. Also retrieval or destruction of high value documents or equipment and rescue or retrieval of submerged personnel from vessels, vehicles, or subterranean caves. PJ = Rescue specialist with small unit combat training, advanced trauma training and SERE skills. Able to integrate well in other military service's teams.
On top of that all PJ’s are top tier war fighters. Basically PJs can sneak up behind you, cut out your butthole, leave and you’ll never know until you realize your dead.
@@mountaingem6 all aircrew go through SERE in the AF and that includes females. SERE is nothing special but it is still a tough course. I went through AF SERE in 99
@@zebrajenksI went through in the 60s. How tough depends on what course you took. I mentioned it not because of how tough it is but because of the skill set is available to protect you and your patient untill extraction.
As a PJ you can also be stationed in Mountainview CA , Alaska , and any RQS if your a ANG PJ
If you consider Reserves and Guard there are a lot more bases. Locations in Oregon, Kentucky, Southeast Florida, and I think a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.
@@nomercy4521 There is a Reserve or ANG Squadron on Long Island, NY that was featured in the movie Perfect Storm
@@run2fire You are correct, almost forgot about them.
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what’s the hardest part of training
I really like the versus format. There's no needless chest pounding, just facts. You guys are doing it right. Thanks
Enlisting in a few days, going down the SARC pipeline
Hey im training for the pipeline and will join once i graduate college. Can i get your insta?
Navy Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsmen ( SARCs) and Air Force Pararescue Jumpers, are Military Medics who are The United States Armed Force's Battlefield Badasses and Special Operations Shooters and SOF Medicine , par excellance. My Respect for Them. Ooh Rah and Hooah!!🇺🇸🦅🗽
Just got my HM-ATF contract. SARC is the goal. Cant wait
Good luck. I just signed HM contract
Good Luck. Thank You For Your Service.
Good Luck Broski
@@sean_dietz2702 @TPGLynx Same. When do y’all ship?
@@zaco9r im in high school so DEP until July 6th
I’ve worked with retirees who did roughly both. A corpsman who washed out of SEALS due to co,or blind, who after Corpsman school, ended up with Marine, SEAL, and shipboard assignments. A PJ from Vietnam era, and and one who retired mid 2000s, had to change MOS after his ear drums were blown out (never said how that happened). Owe some people with kind do, nothing is impossible attitudes. Only thing I can observe that the military is doing wrong by these folks is ensuring they have the civilian equivalent medical designations so they can pursue civilian medical employment after discharge. The Corpsman was clearly equal to an RN, Nurse Practitioner, or Physician Asst, but the civilian world was making him jump through needless hoops and expensive re-schooling simply because he didn’t have LPN, RN, Paramedic, or PA, after his name.
They both get paramedic qualifications but all those other designations rn, pa, etc have college degrees required so it’s not the military’s fault that they can’t go directly into the civilian equivalent but they will have an opportunity to get lots of the courses required while in if motivated enough without touching their GI bill funding.
These teams are just amazing.
The training is damn good, intellectual, tactical, medical and weapons. 👍👍👍💪💪
I'm a civilian medical specialist from Malaysia specializing in lab hematology. If there were any options like these in Malaysia, I would have chosen them anyday over med. school. Medicine in the civilian side has gone down to money and defensive practice to save your own ass from lawsuits and finger-pointing. Feels like these guys are doing what every doctor should be doing in real life....
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There is a Royal Malaysian Air Force unit that is equivalent to the United States Air Force Pararescue Jumpers (PJs), the Combat Air Rescue Squadron (CARS) of the Pasukan Khas Udara (PASKAU). Or maybe u can join the Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance & Rescue Team (SMART), these guys are rescue specialists as well, but I'm not so sure on their medical capabilities. But to join SMART, u must first be in the Fire Service (Bomba), Police or military.
@@dallasyap3064 thanks. But it's too late for me at 34 y.o with a master's degree in lab hematology. These two specialty fields in medicine of pararescue and lab haematology are world's apart.
@@cloudstrife112 well I'm not very sure on the age limit for those units. But at least u are good at what u do right now. What's haematology? Never heard of this field before.
SARC !!great intel Guys!!! Wish I had this video to watch in 1986 when I attended the SARC PIPELINE... I was blessed with health and stamina to make it through!!! Now I’m old but Retired!!!!Go Navy !!
Damn General Discharge coming in clutch for this one 😳😳 I hope to enlist as a sarc in 2022 so thanks for this bro!
What ever you do. What ever they ask at meps.you NEVER got hurt. Learned the hard way.
Also make sure youre vision is to spec.
@@jetlee4life5164 got hurt referring to what? I fractured my knee in Sep 2019 and have 3 titanium screws in it.. would that matter?
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@@roberta7734 As a 7 year veteran ( not in special operations) you need to disclose your injury. They'll eventually find out!
@@dicam492 Sounds good, it won't affect me long term, I just need to catch up on physical therapy because lockdown got me lazy
Bravo Gentlemen ! I have great respect for both SARCs and PJs. They serve our country, save lives, and keep us free. Could you make a video on Army Special Forces vs. Marine Raiders. That would be a great video. Thank You Gentlemen.
When i first got in i was lucky enough to be befriended by a retired SF CSM from 5th group. Vietnam Vet, 5 tours. His entire Army career was SOCOM. He was a civilian who worked in our building. He had his DA retirement photo on this desk. 3 silver stars. Nicest guy, just a straight up bad ass, quiet guy. Again lucky he befriended me. I asked him once who the best were. He responded "The PJs, cause when shit hits the fan and a guy is bleeding out, they'll save you. Get you get home to your family." Never heard of them until that day. Have always held my respect.
He has since passed. RIP CSM George Moore.
As a Retired Air Force Medic with advance critical care training , instructor, and CCAF career field degree. Tech school in the Air Force is a open head and pour system. I learn in 14 weeks what civilians learn in two years with a one second chance to retake a failed block.
pararescue stationed at mountain view CA, and Eglin AFB florida. Pipeline is 98% drop out rate more than seal.and they have to qualify in precision shooting and tactics, where they go into a sniper classes. They are reconnaissance and rescue.
I don't remember PJ pipeline having a failure rate that high though its higher than the Navy SEALs pipeline. And I never heard before PJ going into sniper courses before as well.
Not true, and they are stationed all around the world at a variety of either rescue or special tactics squadrons. I think they have the most different bases you can be stationed at than any other special forces group, especially if you add in the guard and reserve components. PJs also do not go to sniper or reconnaissance courses. These guys are all about combat medicine and combat search and rescue as well as CSAR. Attrition rate is around 80% depending on the class. Hard to say real attrition rate now though, say 100-150 guys start A&S, and 40 get selected, the 40 could be PJ, SR, or CCT, and who knows how many started the class wanted what. Attrition rate def isn't like the SEALs where 200 guys start a class and like 10-15 originals graduate which is what's happened the last 3-5 years per class lol.
When I think of PJs, I think of a tier 1 quick reaction force. Awesome dudes.
Except that PJs are tier 2, only those in the 24th STS are tier 1.
@@dallasyap3064What does that mean? Other than funding? I am genuinely curious.
I got respect for both cant pick one over the other. Much respect for all they do
They are both badasses!!! If I’m severely hurt in a remote location, I would prefer either the PJ’s or SARC to care for, and rescue me. Outstanding Americans 🇺🇸
Any Serviceman who starts off as a typical 68W in the Army, a Navy HM, a Coast Guard HST or an Air Force Medic, and then, decides to further pursue Military Medicine in an Special Operations Forces ( SOF) environment, has My Respect, because, He willingly chose to pursue a Career Path ,where, not only is the training and real world experience in Medicine and Military Forces Life is physically demanding, but also , mentally taxing, for He has to learn more on Health, Dentistry, Math and Science and Biology, and ,must stay on top of the technology with new TTPs, to treat wounded and killed off Fighters, both Friend and Foe, in Action and Active Combat Operations Downrange.🇺🇸💣💥
SARCs are basically Recon Marines with heavy advanced Medical Training. Mad Respect to both! ✊
You mean Recon corpman with advanced medical skills. You enlist in the Navy.
@@mountaingem6 Yes, but they go through the same schools as marine recon
The only thing I would disagree with is that PJs are attached to SOF units because of their medicine. They are attached because of the RESCUE aspect first (roping, dive qual, etc), with the ability to perform paramedic level medicine for stabilizing during the extraction (some get further qualifications).
medicine is a huge part, I was in AF rescue for 12 years
@@zebrajenks agree it is. Have no first hand experience but from very close friends they are studs at more than just medicine. In his words “we have to get to you first, and get you out second”.
SARC vs 18D is the question of my life. And SOST, but those guys are hard to find shit on🤙🏽
SARC and 18D at this point are the same as they both do SOCM/SFMS especially if placed with MARSOC it's very similar.
Fun fact SARCs, rarely, can attend the PJ medical course but PJ don’t attend either SOCM or SFMS
Man that's tough, if had to choose....MMMMM PJs I like SAR.
To answer your question on which I prefer...that entirely depends. PJ for (C)SAR, SARC for green zone care
Pj for me
I worked with both. They both are consummate professionals! You wouldnt go wrong with either one
A Green berets vs Marine Raiders vid would be nice.
Raiders
All a green beret really is is doing a shit load of trading deploying and training for example Iraqi soldiers then when there done training them they go on a mission.
Training
@@joshuastaugler9424 Agree with that, that's why i'd be nice to see some comparisons between them given Marine Raiders also have foreign internal defense as their main task.
Apples and oranges. Raiders are more comparable to seals, direct action. SF are really a field of their own. Their job is mainly to support and train guerillas, unconventional war, and something called FID.
you guys are getting really good at these videos
Thank you!
As a Former PJ we were the men sent in as last resort. The Best kept secret by USAF. R.I.P JASON CUNNINGHAM BOOYAH!
#JOLLY #PEDRO
I'm curious then who are the first resort?
In Black hawk down, the person who blew up the Blackhawk after bodies were removed, was a PJ.
SSGT Tim Wilkinson, Air Force Cross recipient?
Can we get a CIA protective agent vs Diplomatic security special agent?
That would be a good one
With so many trainings that one has to go through to be a SARC or PJ, it would be a miracle if one made it out without suffering any injuries.
Dang just enlised plan on using the OTS program to become an officer, then to into Pjs....tough stuff lol Never heard of Sarcs looks like there just as hard, Respect both braches cant wait to join the brotherhood
That’s a touch choice but I’m going with PJs
I would choose PJs too.
I was a FMF corpsman so gonna go with them lol. Not biased at all :p
Another great content, thanks!
Fun facts: Corpsman is the most decorated in the United States Navy and the most decorated job in the U.S. Military,
I love Corpsman but are they the most decorated?
@@dallasyap3064 Yea, at least in the Navy. I was a Corpsman with the Marines for 9 years. 23 Medals of Honor, 179 Navy Crosses for Corpsmen. There have been 6 Seals to receive the Medal of Honor. The reason Corpsmen are the most decorated is because they are in combat with every Marine unit, so by the numbers we have experienced more combat over the years, because there are always far more Marine units in a war than Seals. Seals were started in Vietnam, as well, whereas Corpsman have been in combat long before then, earning MoH in WWII and before.
@@esteebo 👍👍
I was waiting for this
Love to see an 18D vs SARC video.
Your videos are top notch I even got notifications on keep up the amazing work!!🤘🏾
These guys are impressive to mentally and physically do their jobs.
PJ's also have Reserve and Guard components that expand where you could end up, if you go that route.
Once again, the medicine of the SARC is broader and generally better. I'll take my corpsman every time.
Great Video as usual! My money is with Sarc’s, but im biast! Both bad ass much respect ✊!
You guys always have the best clips
DOE/NNSA transport security. We've talked about it but I just wanted to remind you. I know people don't request it but they will enjoy finding out about them. And maybe it could give a veteran a job opportunity.
Phenomenal channel, well done brother.
Request you do a Diplomatic Security Service video in the the future!
I’ve been out of the military since 2018 and I watch all these videos like I’m about to try out or something lol. But what’s worse is I was in the Army not the Marines or Air Force. I was stationed at Bragg in the 82nd Airborne Division but I still find all these videos of different Units fascinating nonetheless and will watch every single one of them lol.
It's common sense when you combine the strength of each of these special Operation type units you end up with a moving package that is almost completely effective, you know bringing the whole thing! And those that I know that have operated on missions that involve multi-service components always have high reviews of each other, so common sense that is the lethal package, I was a boom operator in the Air Force and our squadron next door to afsoc and we supported them on real world sorties often, great group of guys super professional, and ridiculously good at what they do, I'll leave it at that. 🤘🇺🇲
They are all amazing to me. Thank you all. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you for your dedication and research. Another great comparison video!
Thank you!
Your guy’s videos are awesome. You should do one on The State Departments Diplomatic Security. Not a whole lot of videos/information on them.
Wassup general discharge! Another excellent vid, I'm hoping to enlist as a "35M Human intelligence collector", hope you and you're crew got time to crank a vid on that process for us, holler!
love these videos it just makes me respect these warriors more and more but I was wondering I’m from Canada and would like to see a video of the Canadian Special forces and what they do as I kinda have a dream for jtf2 right now
I worked a few jtf2 dudes in afghanistan, I was in AF Rescue for 12 years and the jtf2 dudes were bad ass as well as the australian SAS dudes.
Been waiting for this one! I’d I could go back 30 years I would have loved to be a SARC! But I’m not a good swimmer and I’m afraid of heights! 😬. I never knew they were attached with DEVGRU. I heard one SARC say, SARC are shooters first that do awesome medicine. PG’s are rescue medical professionals who are awesome shooters.
Technically SARCs are recon first, cuz they are attached to Force Recons mostly who do more green operations than black operations. They only execute direct action if necessary and usually limited.
@@dallasyap3064 SARCs are with both Force and Division Recon, in fact of the three places you go as a SARC Force Recon has the fewest, because they are smaller than Recon Battalion (AKA Division Recon) and MEF level asset. Force is a company size unit. All Marine Raider teams have SARCs too, and function as part of the team. Every 5-man tactical element of the MSOT has a SARC and they shoot and move like a CSO. Our MARSOC attachment when I was in Afghanistan got some on the regular. Also Marine Recon units deployed in our AO did more direct action that green ops, because that was the nature of the mission there.
@@esteebo point taken. I'm still wondering like, why won't SARCs need to attend ITC to be attached with Marine Raiders?
@@dallasyap3064 time and overlap, really. ITC takes Marines from line units as well as Recon, so covers a lot of the same skills that the recon pipeline does. Since SARCs have gone through a lot of that, it's enough to be able to shoot and move with the team, and between going to a team and deployment, training workups are in depth enough that they'll cover the gap. You could argue that recon marines could do the same, and they did in the early days, but with CSO being an actual MOS they need to go through the course. Plus most recon marines haven't gone through the full pipeline like SARCs, each platoon will have jump and dive teams and most e-5 and below will have only gone through one, whereas the SARC goes through all of them.
@@esteebo each platoon will have jump and dive teams. U are referring to Division Recons right? Cuz I remember Force Recons need to be both jump and dive qualified.
The comparison should have been HM-ATF Search & Rescue Corpsman vs Pararescue Jumpers
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HM-ATF SARC's vs 18-Delta Special Forces Medical Sergeant's
Yeah that would have been more accurate. But I thought SAR Corpsmen only rescue at the sea or near coastal areas? Correct me if I'm wrong.
FYI Not all PJs will be assigned to SOF though, my brother in law was a PJ and he said he never once came into contact with a SOF unit during his time in the military
Yes not all PJs are assigned to special tactics squadrons, some are assigned to rescue squadrons.
Just like some SARCS are assigned to Force Recon. Which is NOT a SOCOM unit. BOTH SARCS and PJs are trained to the standard and can move laterally in to their respected services SOCOM units.
PJs are so cool. I always enjoyed training alongside them. They were so much more relaxed than what I was used to. They always had the best gear, too.
just gonna appreciate this part.
0:15 what sets them apart
0:17 what do they have in common
0:18 *WHAT DO THEY DO*
PJ. No contest. Combat medic/paramedic, advanced tactical practitioner, combat divers, aircrew qualified, mountaineer/ropes expert, rescue swimmer qual’d, MUST become a static-line, free-fall jump master, AIE master, and dive supervisors. Many are tandem masters and don’t forget confined space rescue skills. PJs are truly the jack of all trades. Much respect to SARC’s but there is no comparison.
@Coltin M Based on what? PJs can operate unilaterally and unsupported. Meaning they can provide their own security in a fight. I’d like to know why you’d choose a SARC over a PJ in a firefight.
Disclaimer: I have immense respect for SARCs. I absolutely nothing negative to say about them.
@@jeffg3975 if I'm not mistaken, PJs don't need to be qualified as a MFF jumpmaster or as a diving supervisor. I'm not sure what's AIE master. Yeah they are jack of all trades, but in terms of rescue and recovery of personnel, as they are rescue experts. SARCs can compare to PJs in terms of medical skills. In fact SARCs are trained to provide, other than just emergency care, prolonged care. They attend SOCM and then the 18D course or their own SOIDC course.
@Coltin M actually PJs are also trained in direct action, especially its STS PJs. SARCs are attached mostly to Force Recons, but occasionally are also attached to Marine Raiders, Navy SEALs or even SEAL Team 6. As a corpsman mainly attached to reconnaissance unit which mostly conduct green operations, they wouldn't do much direct action raid. Force Recons' (including attached SARCs) direct action are limited.
@@dallasyap3064 PJs are required to become MFF JMs and Dive Sups to pick up E-6. It’s part of their Team Leader upgrade requirement. PJs shifting gears a while back and introduced prolonged field care into their medical practice. As a matter of fact the current PJ med handbook was adopted by FBI HRT and I believe NSW.
I hold an insanely high regard for SARCs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are more medically proficient than PJs because PJs have a broad skill set to maintain in conjunction with tactical medicine.
@@jeffg3975 I see your point with the team leader upgrade. But for prolong care, never heard of it being introduced in the PJ medical field. Couldn't find sources of it either. But NSW doesn't follow PJ med handbook. It's medics attend SOCM, a seperate medical course from the PJ's paramedical training, which I don't know why they need to seperate them. Selected NSW medics may attend the 18D course but usually rare. All Navy SARCs attend either the 18D course or the SOIDC course after completing SOCM. So yeah I would say SARCs are more medically proficient than PJs in long term care, but as we know the PJs have a wide variety of rescue techniques and tactics to maintain as rescue experts apart from their highly trained emergency medical training, some are attached to STS would have to maintain additional special operations skills as well.
Could be stuck in raft in the middle of North Atlantic in a Typhoon, or shot down bleeding out a 100 miles behind enemy lines, only dudes capable of goin in a rescuing your ass are PJ's, not a Corpsman.
Yep. PJs will either covertly get to you or will fight their way to your location using small unit tactics, medically stabilize you and do the reverse getting out......either covertly or fighting to get you out of the hotzone and back to base. PJs don't have the luxury of having a batallion backing them up.
Yes bcoz PJs are apart from expert emergency medical personnel, they are also expert rescue specialists. So yeah when it comes to such situations, make sure u bet on the PJs. But SARCs are great too, not making them look bad, it's just they have different missions and jobs.
@@Dos895 yes
A PJ would be more helpful in the North Atlantic in a Typhoon if the Coast Guard or Navy rescue swimmer isn’t nearby, though a SARC can also rescue someone’s ass 100 miles behind enemy lines if that SARC and his Marine or SEAL buddies are close enough on some assault ship. Air Force F-16 pilot Captain Scott O’Grady was rescued by Marines and Corpsman in Bosnia when he was shot down in 1995.
Great video! Can you please cover NCIS? Including its roles while assisting Navy Special Warfare as a counterintelligence support group, and its REACT team.
I didn't even know NCIS did that😮
@@DelonX439 Yeah, they do counterintel and stuff with NSW.
Fuck ncis
great show
@@austinmarshall111 Miami all way ☠☠☠☠🤣
Another amazing vid
Great video! Could you do Air Force TACP vs. Marine Anglico?
Shipping out as HM/ATF Monday working hard for sarc thanks for the videos helped me with a lot of videos
how'd it go
I am sort of biased, being a 21 year retired USAF veteran i would go pj. Either way both
groups save lives
Can you please make a video on swimming tips for the past test?
Where was all this back in 1966? I was drafted by, US Army, 3-wks after grad from H.S. I had my "ARC Adv First Aid and ARC WSI Cards". So I attended Army Medical Training; (91A-10, 91B-20). Then was assigned to Operating Room Specialist School (91D-20). After completion they assigned me to their First Assistant Program, (91D-2FA). I was able to assist the Surgeon in the Operating Proced's.
I was sent to Vietnam, 1967-1969. My last tour of duty was with 159th DUST-OFF and I was Hooked. If I wasn't DEROS'D, for my DD-214 I would have re-enlisted.
Thank you for your presentation. Eventhough it makes me feel like a "Slacker", with my training?
Any chance yall will do a video on AF Special Operations Surgical Teams? There are so few videos on those guys.
Ones Ready has a pretty good video on it.
th-cam.com/video/mF95uRZhIYw/w-d-xo.html
Did 8yrs as a Corpsman. I was putting in for a SARC package back in 2015, but my contract ended that year due to HYT, so I never got my shot.
If you want to find out if you have even a 25% of passing any of the special forces selection training, start off by seeing if you meet their minimum physical requirements. After you complete the test, if you failed, go train harder or find another job. If you passed, do the test again immediately after completing the first test, and repeat the over and over again for the next six hours. Then take a short lunch break and start repeating the test again for another 6 hours. If you quit or your scores aren’t still meeting the minimum requirements by the end of the day, you need to go train harder or find another job. If your scores are still meeting the standards after repeating the test all day, then go get 5-6 hours of sleep, and repeat day 1 everyday until you either quit, or successfully complete 8 straight weeks of this. If you complete the 8 weeks, congrats, you now have a 25% chance of becoming a special operator.
Great !!!!! Both are GREAT 👍. Video is wonderful.
I originally had a sarc contract before medical complications causing me to drop from the navy. They test you on your PST at a school a couple weeks in. You will be out of shape for Sarcs do not go through 800 divs in boot. So be prepared as much as you can going into boot because you will not have time after. As well the HM-ATF contract for SARCS RELYS HEAVILY ON PST SCORES. With that being said you will be competing against other candidates to be SARC. If you don’t make the cut you will either be a DMT OR SAR. Make sure your grades are top notch too. Just some tips I’ve learned before I started my pipeline that friends who went through and failed told me.
Never heard of SARC. Knew many PJs during Vietnam. Corpsmen were the navy medical guys with the Marines.
The question of my life. Prior marine 0311 finishing up my Bachelor’s in nursing. I’ve debated these two with 18D to use my nursing degree with but maintain SOF experience.
Dude, go 18D. Unfortunately, MARSOC, while under SOCOM, has too many issues plagued by the incompetent leadership that plagues all of the Corps. If you research you will see how many people don’t stay long in MARsoc unlike SF.
@@Lifechanging99999 I appreciate that. I’m very familiar with how the corps is fucked. I just want to be a medic where I am actually in the shit with the guys and I’m still using my nursing school knowledge. So when I get out, I can still become a nurse
@@julianvalles7154 also, the Army has a Nurse Corps. So that could possibly lead to a lat move of sorts.
Go 18D or get a 68W Option 40. It has more built in safety nets if you don't make it to those units as the Army will put you in the Infantry as a medic. Alot guys that fail the SARC route still end up blue side rather than green. Failing the PJ route also gets you absolutely nothing which out of the units we are discussing is physically the hardest to pass. Lastly check out USAF SOST very special job but good place to be if you're a Nurse that wants to work SOF.
@@julianvalles7154 I would go SARC if I was you. I was an HM, and I did the last 7 years of my 10 on active duty with the Corps. You already know how the Corps runs. Further, being "Doc" has it's perks and you also probably know. Further, if you want to go NP you'll be closer to that with SARC because they are trained to nearly PA level. You will also get more with hyperbaric medicine which you probably know is used to treat more and more head trauma and in wound clinics. You'll be more marketable when you combine your RN skills with those of a SARC. The Navy has a Nurse Corps as well.
So what next 🤔 us army drill sgt vs usmc drill instructor 😂
If that video is made I'm going straight to the comments to watch the keyboard war unfold
@@guitarplayincowboy aren't we all brother 😅
Thats contradicting to what i heard, i hear that SEALs are converting to using PJs more than anything now, my source is pretty reliable too. Not in any way trying to say you are wrong, just tossin it out
They call that OPSEC misinformation alternative facts.
There are many vids on TH-cam showing PJ's attached to DamNeck teams.
Pj's have been on the rescue of Pvt. Jessica Lynch, OBL raid, "Blackhawk down", PJ's picked up F-117 Pilot Lt. Col. Dale Zecko...etc.
@@Global6500Driver yea thats changing
SARCS has my vote!
I thought that pjs could be stationed in Alaska, because I read a book about someone becoming a pj and he was in Alaska, doing search and rescue missions up there
Never Quit by Jimmy Settle
@@harrisonschmidt7596 yep that’s it
Looks like he was in the 212th Rescue Squadron, which is a part of the Alaska Air National Guard
Great book!
They didn’t do the Guard/Reserve PJ LOCATIONS: CA,OR,KY,AZ,NY,FL, and Alaska
You should do a video on SARCS VS SF 18D Sergeants.
So from what I got from this video, SARCs are more so in the field alongside battle medics, and PJs are the rescue medics. Someone correct me if I’m missing something.
You should do Canadian special operations
Okay not all SARC’s are SO/IDC’s. You still have to go to IDC school while 84 series NEC’s are IDC NEC’s for Surface, Deep Sea Diving, And Submarine. The SARC NEC is 8427 but that’s Just SARC after SO/IDC school you get the NEC of 8403. Also you just don’t get augmented to DEV you still have to put in a package and screen like every other rate. Even Support rates screen not just SO’s. And before you try to correct me I’m a 8494 Deep See Dive (DMT) and worked with SDV. If you wanna be a SARC you need a HM contract and then screen with the Recon recruiter to start the pipeline.
From what I understand every HM-ATF contract that is selected for SARC is getting the full SO/IDC training nowadays. Just take a look, its right on the Navy website.
@@juliam1017 yes you get the full pipeline. However just cause you get the Pipeline does not mean you’ll complete IDC school. What I’m saying is that SO/IDC is a different NEC from SARC. You can still get the 8427 but that doesn’t mean you’ll get 8403.
@@juliam1017 IDC school is 2nd Class and up. And again it’s still a school so there’s no guarantee to get that NEC
@@TheFloresj23 You sure about all this? It say right on the Navy website that if you are selected for SARC out of Corpsman A school you get the full 121 weeks of training which includes SOCM and the full SO/IDC schools. You can enlist directly into it via an HM-ATF contract. I know that all of this are recent changes as well. I'm pretty sure the Navy is going away from there being SARCs with different levels of medical training and giving all new trainees the full pipeline in contract.
@@juliam1017 yes I know what it says but what you’re not understanding is it’s not continuous. Unless it changed last month. IDC school is a Core School (C-School) which you attended after making 2nd class PO (E5) again I’m a DMT but from the SARC’s I know it was after. And again if you fail the school you’re still a SARC just not a IDC I’m gonna hit my boys up and get it straight from them and let you know
PJ's did loads of CAS evac for us in Afghan. Good guys 🇬🇧🇺🇲
You have to do 2 25m underwater swims for PAST too
I absolutely prefer the Navy SARCS
Personally, I think PJs are more interesting. They have a wider array of capabilities.
PJs can keep a patient without outside help for 72 hrs. Also the base count isn’t complete because of the National Guard and Reserve elements.
Thank you for this information, very valuable and helpful for me :)