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AIR FORCE SPECIAL RECON VS. MARINE RECON
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
- Want to know the difference between Air Force Special Reconnaissance and Marine Reconnaissance? Special Recon is brand new, whereas Marine Recon has been around since the 1940’s. Both of these entities offer unique and vital assets to the U.S. Military in the world of reconnaissance.
Marine Recon has Force Recon, falling under the MAGTF and MEF, whereas Special Recon falls under SOCOM and AFSOC. If you want to know more about the similarities and differences between Special Recon and Marine Recon, as well as their training, missions, opportunities, and how you can get into both of these elite career fields, watch this video until the end!
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0:00 Introduction
2:32 Capabilities
7:01 Structure
8:33 Training Pipelines
10:22 Requirements
11:49 Conclusion
We hope you enjoy our video on Air Force Special Recon vs. Marine Recon! As always, if you learned something new from this video, make sure to give it a like, and subscribe if you're new! We will see you next Friday. Have a great weekend everyone!
General Discharge. Could you do a video for Marine Recon officers and Special Recon officers?
@@garisonkillingsworth5232 I'll let the experts handle this, but for the time being I can offer what I know. I think that the way the Air Force special warfare officer career fields work is there's a general special warfare officer (SWO) classification for the selection phase and then from there SWO's move on to become either special tactics officers (STO) or combat rescue (CRO). If it's anything like it's been, SR probably falls under the command of STO's. Take what I say with a grain of salt because I'm just a cadet and I can only know what I've heard from older cadets and what I can find online. www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2170844/air-force-creates-new-afsc-for-special-warfare-officers/
Defense Intelligence Agency Video 🤔
Thanks Gen
Can you do a video of the FBI and the CIA, but mainly the FBI becuase there is so much in common.
General Discharge great video I really like the video format and visuals you guys.
The main difference is budget, marines get basically nothing compared to the rest of SOCOM .
Because they refused it
JSOC is different than SOCOM. There’s only 5 units under JSOC.
@@Ash12428 sorry, thanks for correction, Im not American so having so many SOF units doesnt make sense to me, thanks for the help.
@@Chris-qh9zw Im genuinely curious, why would they refuse it?
@@ginger0208 no prob and marines refused it bc their leaders are dumb and they say that all marines are “special” so they didn’t want a spec ops unit. Which is ironic bc now they have a spec ops unit.
I think Air Force SR is gonna attract a lot of Recon Marines. I left a comment on the Ones Ready channel about how many ST Airmen I’ve seen that were former Recon Marines and they replied saying “there was a big push in the 90s for jump and dive qualified guys to join AF Special Warfare.” I think SR might be the second push
Bro I been seeing everywhere for years at one point I thought u had a channel😂
@Hipster Jihadist considering the same things Justin commented were from the Ones Ready channel, as I've watched those videos as well, is it second hand hear say if actual SR airmen and other Special Warfare operators are saying it? The hosts of Ones Ready are active and former SR, PJs, and CCT, so that is as first hand as it gets.
@Hipster Jihadist The information about Recon Marines going into the Air Force during the 90s was literally given to me by a Ones Ready host, hop off my nuts 😭 holy shit dude that’s weird, it’s like you got some grudge against me
@@jayp4772 thanks man, I knew I wasn’t the only one who trusts Ones Ready info
Ones ready is the gold mine for all things Air Force Special Warfare
Do more intelligence vids; really liked the isa and cia vids
They’re literally the best videos ; intelligence units are super interesting
No
Yes like NCIS!! Which is Navy!
I'm a Green Seal Recon Pathfinder.. I approve this message.
@@geekedonxans7795 Yes
I never clicked on a video this fast
same lmfao 😭
Oh shut up. Beta.
Key point for anyone outside of the lingo, when he says "Considered infantry" he means the MOS designator starts with 03.
0321 - Reconnaissance Marine
0372 - Critical Skills Operator
And so forth
kinda. CSO's are SOF
US Marshal's SOG next please
Or
MARSOC vs Army SF
I’ve been saying this for weeks
@@Justin_GFM I like the pfp 😏
Damn I didn’t realize i wasn’t the only one who wanted to see Marsoc vs Army SF
MARSOC vs Army SF is a great idea!!!
or seals vs raiders for those between direct action and foreign defense
Love the new vs style of video, it’s really interesting to see how similar career fields in socom compare. Keep up the good work!
I wish I could hook myself up to an IV and pump these videos into my blood
Interesting compliment, thank you!
Man..... yall make me want to REENLIST... but I'm 49 lol. Love the info and presentation you guys have for those seeking military info. I'm a Marine and you guys really fairly represent alm the options and badassery every branch has for those hard charges. Im born and raised in SATX and actually had my Corrections MOS classes at Lackland back in 93'. Keep up the great work.
Great video as usual! I'm going to meps this monday for Special Reconnaissance :))
Good luck!
Best military TH-cam channel appreciate the information
I’ve been thinking about this so much, thanks for the vid
Great video; I've always seen FORCE Recon watching enemy/people movement for conventional leadership and Special Recon studying all elements of the environment (weather, terrain, civilian movement, city layout, etc).
Very insightful. I learned quite a bit here! Thank you for all the hard work in putting this one together!
Thanks for the support, and you're very welcome!
Loved the video! I’d love to see you do MARSOC vs Army Special Forces!
@TurkeyBaster12 Lol no, MARSOC doesn’t deploy nearly as much as SF
@TurkeyBaster12 SF is literally the king of FID, they get most of the missions when it comes to FID.
@TurkeyBaster12 this is common knowledge. It varies deployment to deployment but SF and Rangers have been getting the most action by far.
You all should do a video on MARSOC VS Force Recon! Love the videos!!!
Love all your vids, would love to see a 35L counterintelligence video if you’re ever able to get enough information for it!
You know what is interesting about teaching or education on a topic? It's that contrast and comparisons really help to clarify what something is. So I like that this video compares (this versus that type of thing) the two. Comparing is a GREAT teaching tool.
Ayeee onesready is a great podcast
can you do the TACP vs ANGLICO since they're also seemed similar
Radio Reconnaissance Platoon/Teams would be great
GD, much love my brothers keep that sharp info coming. 🤝💪
Will do!
I’m getting into the special warfare pipeline I’m finishing up the Airforces commissioning and enlistment background registration site. Completing the Asvab and beginning my journey soon enough. Thank you for the information I love your channel.
@Greedo No but you have to get an AFSW contract and then from what the recruiter told me you’ll go through a specialized basic training and then assigned to a schoolhouse whether that be special recon, tac-p, cct, or pararescue, I don’t know if sere is apart of it.
@Greedo Thank you for the info man👌🏽
Glad I found your channel. Son just joined Recon. Thanks for the info.👍
Keep up the great work!
Just saw some awesome pics of Recon Marines and Air Force Special Recon training together at the Marines Recon Leaders Course.
Love your channel 🤛🏾
Love this channel
US Army Long Range Surveillance Units (Vietnam War LRRP/LRP) conducted the same mission sets as Force Recon. Although today, the US Army has inactivated all its LRSU's replacing them with UAS (UAV/RPV) most of those soldiers have returned to infantry units. No, not sure if any assessed through RASP or SFAS? To continue serving in that capacity.
LOVE THIS CHANNEL
Great video coverage 💯
I am sharing this with someone who I hope will be able to get the 'eyes and ears' of some other someones. You lay it out so simply. What's that saying, a genius makes something hard easy. You made a somewhat complex structure of the military easy to understand. Now I want to pick your brain - mostly because I am always interested in how people arrive at their interests, how they learn, what were their influences.
Some solid facts, nice job bro.
Another requirement for Marine Recon: Thoroughly enjoy being wet, cold, and sandy. And you should be good bro lmfao...
Respect to Air Force SF man you guys spend a long time training. I thought mine took a bit minute but damn
Loving this one
Excellent Info! An Air Force Forward Weatherman (as he described himself) and I became aquatinted at Fort Benning during Jump School. He taught me how to use ISO lines on weather maps to help me predict where the biggest surf was when I was in NC.
I was lucky enough to go to RECON school as a non-infantry Marine. I was Motor-T and then became the Water Safety Survival Instructor in 2D ANGLICO. The billet came up and no one wanted it. So I jump on it. Got hurt. But it was fun while it lasted. Wouldn't have done anything with it as I had re-enlisted for the lofty life of a C-130 Navigator. Happens!
All that to say this: If you go for it in Spec Ops of any kind, learn about how to take full advantage of the benefits you are due in case you get hurt. It took me too long to get up to speed with it. And there were some hard years. And, knowing you will be cared for gives you that extra little motivation to not worry what will happen to you if you mess up your knees & back, (for instance).
How would I go about doing that
Dope video gents thank u
My cousin has been in the marines for 13 years I just found out he does recon that’s so cool!
So does every single marine lmfao recon is nothing sorry its a blanket bullshit...
If your not a part of socom your a tier three unit nothing special what so ever...
@@rangere3rd Lmao Who are you to say that?
Spent many years in the 75th regiment...
Every damn marine says their recon its laughable less then 1% of the marine core is recon....
Do the math cupcake...
rangere3rd like reconnaissance marines are not tier 3 or tier 2
Well in order to care what you think i must first value your opinion...
You are not on my former team so take it as you will...
Great video, General. Love, Lt. “Honorably Discharged Early and only gets 10%”
Great video
I love your videos... so much information I love Recon such a rich history and such service to our country but if I were a young man I would go AF Recon because it's funded by SOCOM all the schools
and training is such would be great and challenging especially if you had
a goal of trying out for Delta someday....
I am trying to be SR. I ship off to basic in February and I cant wait to start this new adventure
@Greedo I’m not Superman and neither is anyone I am working with. We are just average dudes with above average work ethic.
How you doing bro? How’s it going in the pipeline
Solid editing. I like the new style.
I never served in the military and it is too late for me now at 59 years old.
I do wear a camelfloge boonie hat I bought at the surplus store for sun protection as I live in the desert. It does not have any military insignia on it at all.
I am appreciative that I have the freedom to wear a civilian boonie hat .
I love these videos as they inspire me to get into better physical shape and stay in good shape . Thanks to all that serve and have served.
4th recon is at Kirkland AFB and you forgot part of the pipeline being you have to hold a infantry rifelman MOS 0311 which is 14 weeks at SOI after basic training before going to MART (Marines awaiting recon training) not reffered to RTAP anymore. Good vid 👌
Suggestions: Sappers vs 18C and MARSOC vs Green Berets
I dont know. I seen Green Berets before. Each are individual by nature of their jobs which make them all different except for some of the ODAs that conduct missions in teams and squads.
Its amazing great video because people just don't understand just how intelligent and amazing these guys are as a former marine people think we are stupid its the same reason why people believe construction workers my new job are not smart enough its takes a lot of mental energy to be in these units or but up building
YESSSSSSHHHHHH!!! I was waiting all day for this! USAF vet. Love anything about my boys in blue! Especially AFSOC!
5:20 I recognize that stairwell from a DesertFox airsoft video where he was doing a milsim at that training camp
I'm so blessed to have so many options. Thanks for the info, GD!
Great channel! Please review Bortac and USMS SOG.
My next door neighbor when I was in high school trained AF SF or some part of it at LRAFB. My dad retired E9 there and I worked out with my neighbor before enlisting myself. I didnt even know they did that. He was veteran of Vietnam as my brothers were. I think somewhere in that time frame he got hooked up with SF in the AF. Im pretty sure the patch they wore was Volant Scorpions. Not sure if they are related to these guys or not.
No that is just security Forces. Pretty much cops
Have you done a video on pathfinders? I've probably watched it if you have but, if not that would be a cool video.
The US Army no longer has Pathfinder units. Although a history video would be informative.
My recruiter told me I would enjoy Recon since I love to learn and explore, definately going to bring this info back to the recruiter.
you guys should add a video on radio recon to that all things recon folder, the reason I keep asking is because I'm in that community on the army side and I would like too see our community grow, people just dont know about us
Pffft they hate us here lmao
Holy Jesus, thats so cool video
i alwats wanted to know the diffrence thanks!
It’s worth noting that USAF CCT/PJ/SR have a washout rate of 90%+.
@Gn BUD/S is only six months...CCT/PJ/SR last 2 years.
@@USJTAC well BUD/S is only six months, but the SEAL pipeline is about 2 years. They have several other schools and SQT to go through. When you say that AFSOC unit training is 2 years, you are referring to the whole pipeline. The actual AFSOC operator course, and for lack of better words “BUD/s”equivalent, is 15.5 weeks(roughly 3.5 months). This is followed by other schools and their specialized skill set training in the pipeline. Both take around the same amount of time to earn their respective titles and assignment to their SO units.
@@Bravo-Too-Much Yes. That is very true. Most people only associate the first six months of BUD/S as the SEAL training.
I want to say that roughly 80-85% of those who make it through BUD/S actually complete the pipeline. I’m not sure of the washout rate. Either way, you made a great point.
The SQC is where the SEALS are made.
You must earn the trident each and every day.
They are pulling candidates from the Airforce, so yeah. Marine recon pulls from Marines which are trained harder from the beginning. Its like if I pulled Varsity football players all from middle school kids instead of seasoned sophmores etc. Airforce PJ course is hard, but if you ran nothing but Marines or Seal candidates through it they would have a higher passing rate. Seal candidates don’t just pass their respective physical tests but exceed them and them some. So seals are the best of the best candidates and have a lot of training by Seal mentors. This is not saying that PJ course is not hard, but you have to put it in perspective.
Probably since the physical standards to get the contract are so low
Best video
I don't care who is better. My care is they protect me. Best to you all in these special forces for you are all heroes.
Wished I did this stuff when I was younger!!!! What a career I would of had. O well. I'll enlists my next time around!!🤙😁
Marine Recon all the way! One of the fewer...the prouder (0321) 1973...81
Air force security forces RAVEN and DAGRE video please?
Each military services has different mission sets and thus needs specialized battle space information and surveillance needed to pick targets and or alter or prep battle space or anticipate enemy moves. Members of each service are usually best trained and equipped and familiar with their own services weapon systems. Airmen for Air Force, Soldiers for Army, Sailors for Navy, Marines for Marines even Coasties for Coast Guard.
Now, here's a video we all wanted! Some awesome details, 14 minutes, love it! IMO, the USAF SR is a much better deal, quality of life, basing, overall funding and available mission opportunities.
Yes Thank you
Hey general discharge you should do a video on SOST VS the Army’s Forward Surgical Teams?
One alibi. You forgot USMC School of Infantry 8 weeks between boot camp and BRC.
Could we get a video explaining JSOC more it may have been covered though ive seen many videos and havent really got a clue. They seem to have their hand in a little bit of everything just some more thorough explanation would be appreciated
Love the videos! Could you do a Ranger vs Marsoc sometime?
MARSOC is close to SF, not Rangers.
@@Ash12428 alright, then could you please explain the difference, I just want to know lol.
@@joc1845 between SF and MARSOC? Not much, both focus on FID and UW. The main difference is that SF is focused on the Army’s mission and MARSOC is focused on the Marines mission. Now between MARSOC and Rangers? That’s a massive difference. Rangers are JSOC premier DA raid force. Their main mission is to go kill/capture HVTs and rarely do FID, if ever.
Could you do a video on 4th recon battalion? I’m curious about the life as a reserve recon marine.
Upon graduating BRC and completing your ongoing school, you will be placed into a reserve unit within your state of residence and go on a training op with 4th Recon every 6 months or so
How about Combat Control.
Special Reconnaissance ( SR), Air Force Special Operations Command ( AFSOC) ISR asset, while Marine Reconnaissance is a Expeditionary FMF Amphibious Reconnaissance ISR asset , assigned to the MAGTF ,with a Special Operations Capable ( SOC) dynamic.
Would love a good video on MP’s I’ve heard of them attaching to SF for deployments
@Black Lung MC more or less 😅
You missed ITB for USMC Recon. After boot camp before BRC
Can you do a video on SOCS for MARSOC
GD,
Good video. I was wondering what is the difference between a AF CRO and a AF Special Recon Officer?
V/r,
BT
Can you please make a video on how to tread in water?
Really need some tips when it comes to the pool.
The AFB im at only has a 3 lane pool about 25 yards so I'm trying to make the best of it.
Can yall do a video on SBS (special boat service)
could you do a video on USMC EOD not alot of info on them out there
It would be cool if you guys covered foreign special operations units. Keep up the good work!
Marine Raider Regiment vs Army 75th Ranger Regiment????
could you do a video on the foreign legions 2nd rep
Great video. Very informative. Aaaaand subbed. Lol cheers. Have a great 2021
I hear that MARSOC's special focus on Special Reconnaissance is what makes them stand out from SF and SEALs, even though they have those capabilities (Much like MARSOC and SF combat Divers have amphibious warfare capabilities, but SEALs take it to the next level and how MARSOC and SEALS have UW capabilities, but GB take it to a higher level) so I was wondering how MARSOC's Special Reconnaissance capabilities compare to USAF Special Recon. Would you mind making a video about that?
Do a video on the 28th eod regiment next lol
Swift, silent, deadly, just like my farts
Lmao
The intro is fire 🔥
Can u make a video about difffernt Specialize schools that all sof units go to halo, sere , breacher, tactical driving, combat diver school, shooting schools, ranger, sniper, free fall , etc
How about doing human exploitation teams, SOAR flight medics, and/or civil affairs medical sgt?
If your doing recon perhaps the Canadian pathfinders
Can you do a video explaining about Special Forces CIF/CRF Companies
They disbanded
Im a dual citizen between Canada and the us, really interested in SR
I'm training for it right now. It's awesome. Check it out!
@@generaljeneral7503 best of luck man!
Being a dual citizen you may have issues with your top secret clearance required for the job
Any chance to do a segment on DIA and Defense Clandestine Service?
I have a question about the SR pipeline. Does each schoolhouse reside in a dif. location or are there multiple schoolhouses within a base (airborne, free fall), and, Is that last 18 months of training (apprentice & advanced) in a static location such as on a particular base or do the training location(s) vary? I’m trying to figure out possible housing scenarios w or w/o my family. One of the last things left for me to plan on before enlisting. Thanks GD!
Is it possible you could make a video about the 24th Special Tactics Squadron?
Nevermind I just saw the vid.
Excellent content; the boys in AF Special Recon dont generally receive such accolades!
Please do a a video on the MEU or MEU(SOC)