Everything from Saudi, North Korea, Iran, CHINA, Russia, South America, every Africa country, and another third world country = BAD SIDES mostly get coverage. Everything from Europe, US, Canada, Israel, South Korea, Japan etc = Good sides is alwasy get coverage. Also you need to know that one time in US, if criminal thing happen, black people usually get coverage. If the people that commit crime was white, then they don't make it a "news". Because white people don't like to watch white people commit crime.That's why the media adapts the content to the audience's pleasure (alwasy show black people crime/bad sides).
Well... he "forgot" to mention the eviction of several ancient tribes from their cultural homelands to make space for NEOM. Yes, it's a sparsely populated area, but the people that do live there consider the land to be holy, and do not want to move. People have died in this conflict. I understand it's an uncomfortable subject, but this video glorifies the vision of NEOM.
@@quackecs no tribes we’re evicted most of these places were forbidden to enter by law and religion because they housed an ancient civilization until now stop lying and spreading fake info and get eduction
@@quackecs This video does not glorify NEON, the owner of this video even repeatedly criticizes NEOM, and anything related to Saudi Arabia. Not only him (TH-camr), but also major media in the US, Europe, Turkey and Qatar (Before their relationship improved). Did you really watch the video?
He rare calls out bad sides. Similarly He praised Egypt's new capital project as if its the best in the world where as anyone who know little about Egypt can understand entire project is bs.
The 3d work is really out of this world, and the visuals always help a lot with understanding complex topics. I'm not sure I would've been able to follow the section with the Saudi king and prince without the visual part as well, so that was super helpful. Great video as always!
@Dr. Irina Luminesk like if it's in the Middle of the desert , besides people been living in the desert for a long ages ago as long they have water , and I'm pretty sure if they want they can invest their last oil money in making a sustainable desalination plants.
@Dr. Irina Luminesk all the gulf countries were desert lol. like look at dubai you think it wasn't desert 30 years ago..? uae/qatar to all the gulf countries were just desert now these are cool looking cities.
These videos are all very cynical hitpieces.. I'm no fan of some of Saudi Arabia's practices.. but every single one of these videos try to paint sinister motives &cryptic agendas.. when the reality is this is just someone trying to enhance their country. The lack of journalistic coverage is stark
I'm no shipping expert but it seems like these container ships are going to be forced to make some extremely tight turns in order to dock. Seems like a poor design.
Not a civil engineer, but from what I learned from your videos of Kuwait and Dubai, the quality of water in this design will be pretty bad. Also I don’t see the point of only having one opening for this city, wouldn’t it be better for ships to enter from one end and exit from the other as opposed to doing a U-turn? They seem to prefer form over function to get attention.
You lost the moment you compared this to dubai and kuwait… this city will be located on the red sea not the Arabian gulf there are 2 completely seas with completely different waters… nonetheless this area is located up north very near to suize so its very much expected to be an important port in the future…
absolutely this, Saudi Arabia is to a worse extent than either Kuwait or Dubai, they do things for attention and acclaim and it rarely works. the Kingdom Tower is a huge waste of time and money, they've basically abandoned the idea of Jeddah being the countries financial hub in favor of more outlandish projects. the Line and NEOM are just as much complete wastes of time and displaceed how many people despite little to no fan fair towards them and now this project is continuing that. This is one of the most shameless countries in the world, they do these things for attention because they know when oil keeps falling and/or the monarchy falls Saudi Arabia will not be able to keep going.
@@LightestKing wrong ☠️☠️ you clearly do not know what u r talking about ?? Do you think neom will pay itself? No, the government is still running major projects in jeddah and turning it into the next dubai… they have literally wiped half of the city? Why do u think so?…. Why is them taking major risks and improving the country triggering u that much? If you know that oil will fall why would u still invest it in and not expand??
This is not the same to either of the two. The Palms in dubai are islands with canals in between them and in Kuwait, it is just the canals cut in land. Here, the whole city will be floating. So, there is no complete obstruction of water.
Looks like a good idea for a VR world. Stupid for the real world. They should build a floating community proof-of-concept community first in an existing city to work out the engineering challenges at least. Even then there's going to be so much maintenance to do for the islands, how will it ever be profitable. Companies will move to the cheapest location once government money dries up, and workers will certainly not be paid enough to live there.
Building a factory along the cost or on island could be very helpful in matters of logistics and supply chain, cooling system, sustainable energy ..etc, and of course a good office views 🙂 We already build something similar to this project, check out KAUST and king Abdullah Economic City. Also there are tons of mega projects along the cost of thr red sea such as the red sea project, Amaala, Jeddah and Jizam development. Not mentioning that a lot of countries used the same idea.
Yes! Exactly .. there are no pre-trials, because if they failed, everyone will say, or at least know, that the prince was wrong. He can never be wrong. A project that its benefits cannot be discussed openly is doomed from the start. Saudi industrial facilities cannot compete in most industries, and it's not their fault really. High costs just made it uneconomic to have industries serving outside markets, as for locally made and consumed products, they tend to rely on many imported inputs because of the limited natural resources, other than oil, fresh water and arable land. These are the problems in front of industry in KSA. I cannot see how a floating port will solve any of that. Maybe if they make lots of high-added-value industries that can compete, but these industries tend to need workers with many years of experience and complicated production pipelines. Will see.
@@Kiyoone they arlady started with the infrastructure, and there are some of the big names signed or start working on site, Airproduct, Aqua power, Enwa l, Foxconn, Maclaren, Fas energy, and gulf modular international. That's what coming to my mind right now, and as you see it's not that big it's only a small town
Anyone who has ever owned a boat knows what happens when you 'park' the boat in the water for even a moderate length of time. In the first place, the different metals interact with flowing salt water and begin to dissolve. The second is that marine growth (everything from barnacles to seaweed) begin to attach and grow like crazy. They add considerable weight and alter water flow. This is nuts.
@@mohammedalnasser796 The Burj Khalifa is at the end of the day just 1 building although hard to construct I don't think you can compare it in scale with NEOM, Saudia Arabia has already built fancy cities that nobody occupies.
@@Roseblindbags123 Saudi arabia has not finished any fancy city that nobody occupies, they're all a goal of 2030, and they're all in construction with 10000s of workers living there, people said literally the same thing about palm jumeirah, dubai, and doha, and yet look at how that ended up, the whole of dubai was a project like this but with a smaller budget
with the amount of money they are pumping into it, i'd eat my hat if it didn't Lol, money speaks, look at all the middle eastern projects, dubai, palm jumeirah, kuwait city, doha, much more
@@Roseblindbags123 Saudi Arabia is much greater than UAE, haven’t you seen how Mecca and Riyadh transformed ?? Saudi can build dozens of futuristic cities across Saudi Arabia
@@ryan-xe9ez those islands in dubai are sinking also dubai dosent even have proper sewage system and public transit. it is just copy of american cities which are road dependent.
A big problem that I have with projects like this and The Line is that they're based on the assumption that we need to preserve land in a desert. If there's more demand for real estate, the simple answer is to build more housing in Riyadh and Jeddah which are already established cities.
yep basically there trying to go into Dubai and Kuwait approach of creating new valuable land yet forgetting the reason they went this way was there habitable land running out
Deserts do need to be preserved, 1/5th of the world is made up of deserts. They have many nutrients and ecosystems for animals. The Amazon only exists because the strong winds carry nutrients from the libyan desert over the ocean then dump those nutrients on the amazon. Northwestern Saudi Arabia has more Mediterranean climate and more animals than the rest of the deserts in the country. Saudi Arabia is already building housing projects in Riyadh and Jeddah, in 2015 the percentage of Saudi’s who owned homes was at 40%, the goal was to reach 60% by 2020, they managed to reach 67%, you can do both
@@stevieg6418 yes I did watch the video. Still the economicand industrial noise polluting area does not need to be in the centre, which is my point here.
@@0rangeG Well I don't think you know what an industrial city is like. If you visited any in the region like I have you will have a better understanding of what one is actually like.
This is like the 4th mega project I’ve seen from Saudi Arabia. If they wanted to make a non oil dependent economy they could just massively improved their current cities or make new modern cities that look like their other existing cities but make them more efficient…
How are you so good at making the sponsored parts to your videos? Like seriously! In all of your vids its so well in-tuned with the topic! Well done keep it up
Whenever I see some big vanity projects announced or in the works I think of the basics, especially on the floating section for this project, what are they doing about Fresh drinking water, what are they doing about Sewerage, what are they doing about solid waste disposal, what are they doing about supplying electricity to the individual homes on the floating section, what are they doing about the transportation needs of the people. Last, what steps are being taken to protect the environment, the land and the underwater parts of this. These are the basics I know, but they are the most important parts I think. Get them wrong or have them unworkable then this project is a failure.
Yeah. Like why complicate things by building half the city off the coast when you can just build one fully on solid land, where building literally everything from sewage and power lines to the buildings themselves will be cheaper. But I guess the king and his right hand men are more impressed by "unique and cool" rather than functional and afforable design, and the foreign designers they hire are more than happy to be thrown money at for playing up to the kings fantasies
@@SiLaChaCha What's the point then? Talk to a neighbour country about how their world tallest building doesn't have a sewage system 🤣. U know, one shouldn't stuff their nose in stuff they ain't got not saying in.
I personally do not see this city going beyond the conceptual stage anytime in the near future. However, a floating city in general can allow for greatly reduced cooling costs. The water helps moderate the heat.
I'm happy the video is somewhat critical of the project, but really that doesn't even scratch the surface. The practical challenges this poses including the money and toll on the environment this will definitely entail is crazy. Why can't they just for the love of god invest heavy heavy into solar
What I'm missing here is the why. Why build this project in a remote corner of the country, rather than say just outside Jeddah where there is already an airport, train links, labor pool, etc. Why the gimmicks, such as a city as a line, a floating half city, etc. Why moving vast amounts of money from the Saudi treasury to his own area, even though he and his dad already have absolute control in the country? Are these projects for real, or is the motive more related to power and corruption?
the reason is that they want to move away from oil to tourism and other sectors, many people will look at these innate flawed projects and see big high tech amazing city's so they go there to experience it and Saudi Arabia can profit of of these people
Its called the Greater Israel Project. Thats why you see the Line and Egypt new citys etc. The Kings in Saudi Arabia are not Muslims. Saud Clan. Look it up.
Discovered this channel few days ago one of my s tier TH-cam Video Essay and research analysis Channel I watch right now, Insane Geo Layers animations, awesome storytelling. I hope some day I will do this type of infographics for my channel
@hiOOxkr magkis And who told you that?, everyone said about the vision of the kingdom will fail at the beginning but now look how Saudi’s sources of income (non-oil profits) have increased and 95% of the projects had returns to the country GDP. So I don’t why people are making the projects that the kingdom are working on so negative and just gonna fail.
How do you get from one half of the city to the other by any practical means? It should have a central spine like the palm jumeirha. If the sea level rises, the floating half will be fine while the city near the shore is flooded.
it will not Rise, why do you think all the Elites around the World By Coast Line stuff? you think they all stupid? no, its a scam to make normys, sell there Coastal Propertys.
The project has a full paper released on it that details a lot of the issues and their solutions. As mentioned above they use tunnels to link the two parts. As for sea level rises the red sea is set to not rise much compared to the Atlantic or the North Sea as those seas are closer to the polar regions (yes btw‚ sea levels arent all the exact same) and the sea level rise is taken into account by elevating the sides of the project. Which isn't an issue as container ships are tall enough to reach and the containers themselves are managed using cranes.
What a smooth transition to the sponsor. I'm always looking forward to your videos, Neo! Keep it up. Also, I would love a video about the 'new' Line project. As their first proposal was already ridiculous, the second one seems outright dystopic
@@MuntahaZad i live in UAE and its also one of those countries where this shit happens often and let me tell you, they are severely underpaid at 175$ a month and even then, actual numbers are even lower considering the fact that their salary is almost always overdue They are getting paid with this low amount of money and yet have to endure the conditions of the arabian climate and are being overworked for it go back and read your sources before coming back to me and stop believing in that propaganda bullshit
@@asliceofcheese9989 lol I also live in the KSA (sadly more like lived now), so don't get too nasty bro. I see what you on about, and it is sad if that is really true. The people working in the gulf come there by their own choice my dear! They earn more working in those conditions, than they were back at home (South Asia mostly). And guess what, I am a South Asian as well. You get what I'm trying to say (I mean no hate lol). If what you are trying to say is that they should get paid more, then I really hope that becomes the case. Everybody loves a raise.
@@MuntahaZad they do come here by choice bbut that thing is, they were manipulated into coming here. They were promised a good life in the uae and other gulf countries and even took out loans up to upwards of 3000$ to pay for their own plane tickets and once there, they realized it was all a sham and have to endure the working conditions here. To top it all off, their passports get taken away so they have no way to go back home even if they have the sufficient money to be able to.
@@FitraRahim That western expert is getting paid by Saudi Arabia. İf you pay me i'll do the stupid projects you want, i don't care just give my paycheck.
@@emirhan_snl Yeah this is just a game. Everyone can tell what's stupid and what's not lol. If you don't need to be an expert to tell then why are they even doing and wasting money on this project :D
@@sheikhhashashin6946 Because they are stupid. They are literally building a city in line form, just because it looks cool. Most stupid way to build a city btw.
When a place's name is so close to Neon, y'know, like neon lights? Cyberpunk cities? Full of neon signs? Like c'mon this pace needs to be an extremely futuristic cyberpunk kinda place. It'd be a wasted opportunity otherwise Also that transition to the sponsor is goddamn smooth as butter. You really got me with that one. Love it, one of my favourite transitions.
The PIF chaired by the crown Prince is doing greate things, this model of economical development is outstanding, where the capital investment on sector development is done by the PIF while the government budget focuses on the welfare of citizens and capital investment on regular infrastructur such as roads and maintenance. The PIF is creating so many companies within the county to boost and even create industries out of nowhere, they're spending money from asset liquidation and dividend and even loans, so the country will keep on developing without affecting the budget which has been in deficient for 6 years now, hell I mean the PIF recently created a Coffe company to boost the Arabica coffe agriculture industry in the South of the country, also created a Militry manufacturing company to increase internal output of military equipment, and so on and so forth ... for us this is all greate news .. new jobs new non oil sectors and it's all ground breaking.
"How do you imagine city of the future?" There isn't any definition for "city of the future". There shouldn't be. Only these 4 characteristics are needed for a city to be a good city. No futuristic bs 1)Sustainable 2)Good Public transport (which is lacked by the hyped cities of Gulf countries like Dubai) 3)Pedestrian friendly (instead of car centric) 4)Good sewage system (Dubai doesn't have a sewage system, thousands of poop trucks carry Dubai poop out of the city every week)
Dubai actually has pretty good public transportation with their metro and bus system. I visited before the pandemic. The only issue is that the metro is in a straight line, along with the city, along the coastline. And only the Burj Khalifa needs poop trucks, not the whole city. They also have desalination plants to convert the salt water into drinking water. It isn't walkable since there are highways everywhere, but it's also unbearably hot most of the year, so it makes some sense.
Saudi Arabia is a separate country from the UAE. Dubai isn't in Saudi Arabia, it's in the UAE. Also, as of 2016, Dubai was one of the only major cities in the world that treated 100% of its waste.
@@ASLUHLUHC3 When was the Burj Khalifa built? What year is it now? I think they have had plenty of time for the utilities to catch up Also what kind of architectural and engineering firms build the world's biggest building without taking basics like sewage into account? Criticism has to be given where necessary
*Saudi Arabia and the entire middle East needs to focus on one thing: innovation! In the past, when Arabs were the richest, and the most powerful, the innovation in various fields were so high! We need to regain that status.. remember things go from uv to ir... and we are uv! *...
Will if you see the 2 richest oil countries in the world (Venezuela and Saudi) and how each country manage to run their oil industry you will understand that it’s not just oil money, but the mind that puts behind such wealth and managements
@@thetaomega7816 too many examples to choose from, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Alregira .. etc all those countries have as much and sometimes even more resources, the Royal family puts the wealth of the country into economic development we're even going further than that and developing cutting edge projects .. we're pushing the limits and people from all around the world are participating, but as always people just focus on discriminating all of what we're doing.
When I read the comments I think that everyone has a PhD in the field of engineering, but the reality is that the majority do not even have a job I only ask you to remain silent until the project ends, and then you will see that you are wrong
There aren’t many countries with more space per capita than Dismemberstan (Saudi Arabia). Building out onto the water makes no sense, outside the realm of unfinished vanity projects.
if you only consider the geography of Saudi Arabia, then it actually makes perfect sense. the reason the vast majority of land in Saudi Arabia is unused is that most of the land in the country is completely unsuitable, for any purpose. The Arabian desert is one of the largest subtropical deserts in the entire world, any sort of development in this region is beyond impractical. Heat extremes which make it borderline uninhabitable to begin with. A complete and total lack of access to any type of water, anywhere (Saudi Arabia is the largest country in the world which does not contain even one single river). The ground is completely unsuitable for constructing large buildings because it is nearly impossible to stabilize, any foundation you build will shift and the building will collapse in a matter of years. The desert sand is also completely useless for construction because of its shape, the Saudis have to import all the sand they use for construction. There are many other reasons as well, but it should be clear now why Saudia Arabia and other Arabian countries are constantly looking to create more space along their coast instead of building in the middle of one of the largest and most inhospitable deserts on earth
These megaprojects and reforms serve two purposes: a) To convince the world that Saudi Arabia is modernizing and thus attract investment and create an economy less reliant on oil (basically, they're trying to replicate the UAE's success; only 13% of the UAE's GDP comes from oil now). b) To whitewash the human rights violations. I'm not even talking about the murder of Khashoggi and the bombing of Yemen, but the internal human rights of Saudi Arabia are enough to convince everyone of the horrors this kingdom perpetrates. I've seen it myself. Saudi Islamic scholars who have criticized the kingdom for becoming liberal hypocrites (by opening bikini beaches and ditching Sharia law) have been targeted. The Saudi police throw guns in their homes and arrest them on charges of "terrorism" or "extremism". Being a good Muslim in Saudi Arabia and speaking out about the facaduous reforms now has a price to pay in the so-called "Islamic" kingdom. In reality, the grandson of Saudi Arabia's founder recently admitted that the kingdom was never founded for the purpose of Islam. It was founded for political reasons. The British helped the Saudi tribe rebel against the Ottoman Empire (and also genocide many other tribes and Muslims) and Saudi Arabia was born. Fast forward, a California-based company struck black gold; fast forward further, the first and only Saudi King to be against the Western world for their support of Israel, managed to bring down Western economies to their knees with the 1973 oil embargo. He was eventually killed by his own nephew who had a Jewish girlfriend ironically. After Faisal's murder, the hypocrites backed by the West (because they shared a common enemy: Iran) took over. Right now, they are cracking down on all activists who speak out against the monarchy. It doesn't matter if they're conservative or liberal. Everyone who is speaking out is getting tossed in the prisons. Islamist, secularist, feminists and religious activists have all been kidnapped, beaten, and even executed. And there's a complete media black out as to what is going to happen to the people that will be displaced by NEOM. They Saudis are trying to play a double game. On one hand they want to present themselves as "Muslims" to the Islamic world to keep their political influence, but on the other hand they want to present themselves as "liberal" to the Western world to expand their economy. What are they really? They're tyrants. The Qur'an describes these people as "munafiqs" which roughly translates to hypocrites. Western countries, especially America, should cut ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia if they really care about human rights. But I doubt they will. Crazy how money has become everyone's god all of a sudden.
@@salvatoreasante6907 Shut up. @Robustus and other people that mock {Saudi/Gov/Prince/King/Royal} in this comment section know more about Saudi Arabia than you and Saudi peoples. Just shut up...
Hexagon and line formats, too formalist, seem like the old modernists of pure forms designing over blanck slates all over again, instead of having the city's shape be informed by pre-existing local contexts. But my main point of concern and criticism: local (mostly nomadic) peoples who have been inhabiting this whole neon project area for centuries already - if not millennia - are being forcefully relocated, expropriated or even downright killed when not complying to orders given from above. It does not make any sense to get there and destroy thousands of peoples' livelihoods who were just fine until now, only to build mega projects no one asked for and will serve mostly for autocratic saudis to stay in power after oil is gone...
Things work differently in this part of the world. The vast majority of the country will benefit if these projects are successful, not just the royals. Dubai's projects look ridiculous too, but they've been working relatively well for the most part. A vast majority of Saudis do support their leaders.
Either way, this project is set to fail and if it doesn't, THEN it benifits the 'locals' you talked about that would be 'killed' if they didn't comply with their rules. don't talk like you know anything about this place.
These people ur talking about are only 20k, it’s a Bedouin tribe, and they all got extremely well compensations… hell if I was offered that money I would relocate as well.
I really don’t know whypeople are just criticizing and being two faced people on the projects that the Saudis are building, everyone in west said at the beginning of their vision that it will fail and now we can see how their non-oil income has increased and the kingdoms GDP increased to highs. Let them build and after that criticize. Don’t be biased and see it from a one point of view.
I think some information in this video gives the project too much credit, it is a dictator's dream at best, unsustainability is lhe least of its problems. A top-down planned city never worked really like intended, Saudi Arabia has its shares of failed empty collosal waste of money projects, half-built skyscrapers and abandoned communes reveal the truth of urban planning in Saudi Arabia, and without doubt they can hire as many experts as they could, and still, would an expert really try to correct the vision of a king that butchers his dissent?
At 8:06, you can see that the Prince is literally not touching or stealing any money from the country’s “budget”, he developed a really REALLY smart way to finance his futuristic oil-independent projects without really affecting the citizens much. It just shows you that he’s not just a regular “Prince”, he’s an extremely smart, ambitious, clever prince. He’s built different. And I think by now we can clearly see how he was able to expand his power so much to the point becoming the next heir to the throne. Probs to him for being clever yet fair & just to his people 👏🏼… whether his plans work out or not, it really seems he’s totally doing this out of sheer ambition. Even if his plans succeed by only 60%, that will still be revolutionary considering how visionary they are!
Very accurate comment, as someone who lived there, this is very true, MBS gained so much power yet took nothing from its citizens instead he is reforming cities, new projects, new cities, new neighborhoods, etc.
Saudi Arabia has changed enormously within couple of years since King Salman took the thrown. There are many projects inside the country by PIF and it's huge and it's exactly like what they've been promoting. I have a great confidence NEOM is going to be promosing.
Why waste so much money building in the ocean? Why not build on the vast empty desert instead? It's not like Saudi Arabia is running out of empty land. This is a vanity project.
i know people working in NEOM, they are miserable. they havent done anything for the past 5 years. Meanwhile, the red sea project has actual potential.
@@dom1abc1mbc you cant compare the two projects, I live in the area where the Red Sea project is taking place, there is enormous progress and its almost on schedule, many of my people got jobs and the project turned our small city into a world attraction, Neom will do the same but on the scale of a country, its a 500$ billion project while the red sea is even less than 20$, Neom will take more time to realise its vision, but once it does even if it realises a portion of its vision it will be a huge profit for the country
As in the failures of the past inform the successes of the future? Sure this might be a good proving ground for ideas but I don’t think it’s going to come anywhere to achieving it’s stated goals
Why was Octagon was chosen instead of a hexagon? If efficiency is concerned, hexagon is the most efficient shape (i.e observed in beeswax and snowflakes formation)
Seeing thumbnails like this is kinda depressing, we are on the brink of an ecological disaster and the thing we decide to do is, out of all possible things, building floating cities
@Zaydan Naufal there will be no plastic construction or using within this site I advise you to read more about Neom, it’s probably the world’s cleanest project in history.
Saudi arabia is not running out of money, and they're defintely not in an ecological disaster, the west pumps 100s of billions into wars, and all you care about is SA building a new city? Lol
not every country that has a civilized decency standards is a theocracy, frankly the country is better for young people than the netherland where young people are competing over glorified wardrobe as housing and familial values are comparable with neanderthals.
Debates on the meaning of theocracy have led some scholars to widen the definition of theocracy to include states that are not theocracies in the traditional sense, such as Saudi Arabia and the USA under George W. Bush. In turn, it has been argued that some apparently secular contemporary states that legislate morality actually do so on the basis of a historical trajectory proceeding from Protestant notions of guilt, and should thus be termed secular theocracies. Although the global influence of religious political ideologies has grown over the past three decades including France which practice sectarian secularism since its colonial period to date ( i.e. Pro Catholicism and anti Islam ) . in fact the Maronite Catholic Church in the Mideast which is sponsored by France politically and financially have been the first to be involved in modern religious terrorism in the Arab world, the French defended the church in the UN after the UN accused it of committing genocide on civilians .
@@Jewzi123 france is mainly invading north africa and occupying west africa alongside eu and nato full support. as for theocracies, it is stupid to broaden the term meaning, if its ruled by priests then a theocracy, if not then its not. never heard of churches in the middle east doing anything significant, its usually nato supported paramilitary organizations that are in charge of clandestine operations that nato uses in its occupation policy in iraq, libya and occupied parts of syria.
This is why you should not let the architect take the lead on mega project. Only the beauty is emphasis, but the cost, technology, feasibility, finance and real tangible benefit are thrown out of the window.
Investing in technology and future tech will likely benefit a country and locating it on a global naval trade route is of course ideal. As far as how to make the city float, ask Archimedes 🤣😂
They also invest in technology. But, of course this thing more atractive to be "mock" by people like you. If you wanted to know more about them, just see SPA (Saudi Press Agency), the Saudi Official Goverment News. The news is not coming to you, but you need to reach the news from the source (And of course you need to understand Arab if you want to know more about them, this is foundation).
If the Oxagon is meant to be the industrial hub of Neom then it needs to make sustainability, green-tech, clean safe waterways and a proper infrastructure that keeps industrial pollution and refuse out of the waterways altogether. They also need to closely monitor local marine life for any invasive species brought in by visiting ships. The Saudi PIF fund is a great initiative but I pray that Saudi Arabia builds any of its mega projects with green-tech, pollution mitigation and sustainability as a central tenet.
The problem is that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a TERRIBLE place to live if your aren't a fundamentalist Muslim. The only reason Westerners live there is because they can make a lot of money with no income taxes.
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From a true far thinking standpoint it be best to move cities away from any green into terrain that supports no life, like deserts. Any green spot should either be protected or used for agriculture/food production. Hell, building a second Paris above the first Paris (like on pillars, seen in Deus Ex) would allow to then recover a lot of fertile land. Cities as they are right now came to be in ancient times or the dark ages, I think it is time to move towards more sustainable options.
Desserts have ecosystems as well and you can’t build a major city without having resources or having water resources nearby to supply the city and this would reflect on transporting goods and services as well
Imagine having so much money you could just say “hey build me a city”. And when you’re told “there’s not enough room bc of the ocean” and just be like “ok? So build it on the ocean. Figure it out. Here’s more money”
You could say there are many sides to this project 🤪 it’s pretty exciting as a vision but I always believe cities work more as natural organisms in their own right and we can only support or restrict their growth not build them from anew. People go where they want to be, not where they should be, just my opinion anyways
now i have a passing interest in logistics so a couple questions came to mind upon seeing this proposed city: how do people get from the residential area to the industrial area? from the cgi plan they gave the only solid road would be on the northern exterior which would severely limit the moment of people in the south. if they use bridges then that will increase the cost of operation even more as well as slow down both traffic and shipping as they can only allow either cars or boats through at once. where will the public transportation go? no city on earth can survive without public transportation, and with the residential area being entirely on water and very close together this means that most forms of public transportation like rail/metro/small boats or even trams cannot function without a heavy redesign. where is the medium-high density housing/where is commercial? as proposed the main economic draw of the city will be its industrial zone, a business type that does not typically lend itself to single occupant housing which often creates demand for higher density housing, something that at current would struggle to actually float even more than the current housing scheme. not to mention that the only place for a commercial area (cafe's, offices, public services ect) is to have them either mixed in with the residential which appears to be using lower capacity roads making deliveries harder or in the industrial area putting businesses away from customers and taking up your main money producing space. where will the boats go? cargo ships are well known for not being the most nimble of vessels, so why is the plan implying that a cargo ship will have to enter the city, do a U turn in a very confined space, off load/load and then go on its way? if the main idea for the city was to focus on the shipping lane they should have completely disconnected the sections and have the water way act as a 1 way road taking deliveries from the south and sending the exports to the north. as it stands the bridges i previously suspect them of planning to use will now see twice the disruption whats the land value of a house looking at a dirty cargo ship? some people may very well appreciate the smell of oil in the morning followed by the sight of a rusting hulk when in their back garden, but not many. Because with single occupant housing theres no way your going to see anything else if your living on the interior of the octagon. when happens if you get too many people or businesses? if the whole gimmick of your city is it being a certain shape your pinning alot of hope on that city never needing to expand else it breaks the shape (for an example look at the city of Brasilia which was meant to be in the shape of a bird but has over the years grown malformed yet still retains the inefficiencies of its base rigid shape) and for the final one, if these projects are actually planned to work and actually exist wouldnt you want to perhaps have the line go from north to south and connect the other cities? while filled with its own flaws having three cities acting in tandem would pose some possible synergies. they could have the octagon serve as the lower income industrial hub, move goods by rail up to the line which is proposed to mostly be high density housing and commercial space and then finally connect it to the mountain town which will inevitably house the rich and elite.
It is easy for the masses to critique the ideas of those who dream big meanwhile wondering when next a video on how to boil the perfect egg will be recommended on TH-cam.
One of my thoughts somewhere at 3:30: Dang, what if a tidal wave hits? Some shiny things I considered: - What will happen to the ocean life when this is under construction? - If they are keeping millions of people here, why are they only using solar and wind? Why not use a light water nuclear power plant with all this water? - They are totally gonna use oil for power as they probably will be too scared to use nuclear and recycle the nuclear waste - Why not just use the desert on shore to build the entire thing? - How will this city float without sinking? - I think this is a ripoff of venice, they are taking inspiration from that city and making it blade runner 2025: Whirlpool State
These people were building the idiotic LINE(which at least had the sign of “public transit”) but honestly. Wtf? Bro loaded up city skylines, and said… yeah this is gonna slap
@@alialshehri6977 can't wait for half of the city to be blocked because of one car crash in one of the tunnels, sure is gonna be easy to acces for an ambulance!
@@alialshehri6977 can't wait for half of the city to be blocked because of one car crash in one of the tunnels, sure is gonna be easy to acces for an ambulance!
@@alialshehri6977 what? i'm talking about the transportation tunnels underneath? Have you seen the "demo's" of the line they clearly show cars in tunnels underneath are you just ignoring that? There wont be any roads above ground they are just moved underground which btw will surely be a great driving experience
Bravo for calling out the bad sides of the project and not just fawning over the octagonal shape. Respect.
Everything from Saudi, North Korea, Iran, CHINA, Russia, South America, every Africa country, and another third world country = BAD SIDES mostly get coverage.
Everything from Europe, US, Canada, Israel, South Korea, Japan etc = Good sides is alwasy get coverage.
Also you need to know that one time in US, if criminal thing happen, black people usually get coverage. If the people that commit crime was white, then they don't make it a "news". Because white people don't like to watch white people commit crime.That's why the media adapts the content to the audience's pleasure (alwasy show black people crime/bad sides).
Well... he "forgot" to mention the eviction of several ancient tribes from their cultural homelands to make space for NEOM. Yes, it's a sparsely populated area, but the people that do live there consider the land to be holy, and do not want to move. People have died in this conflict. I understand it's an uncomfortable subject, but this video glorifies the vision of NEOM.
@@quackecs no tribes we’re evicted most of these places were forbidden to enter by law and religion because they housed an ancient civilization until now stop lying and spreading fake info and get eduction
@@quackecs This video does not glorify NEON, the owner of this video even repeatedly criticizes NEOM, and anything related to Saudi Arabia. Not only him (TH-camr), but also major media in the US, Europe, Turkey and Qatar (Before their relationship improved). Did you really watch the video?
He rare calls out bad sides. Similarly He praised Egypt's new capital project as if its the best in the world where as anyone who know little about Egypt can understand entire project is bs.
Being a Saudi Prince is like playing Sim City on a blank map with the infinite money cheat.
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@@420roachdoggjr beyond paying vat which started only recently. We don’t pay taxes
Neom is a PIF project company, and thus it’s funding is not from the government.
When he's not having journalists killed and, literally, chopping up their body
Tax increased in Saudi Arabia and VAT too
The 3d work is really out of this world, and the visuals always help a lot with understanding complex topics. I'm not sure I would've been able to follow the section with the Saudi king and prince without the visual part as well, so that was super helpful. Great video as always!
@Dr. Irina Luminesk like if it's in the
Middle of the desert , besides people been living in the desert for a long ages ago as long they have water , and I'm pretty sure if they want they can invest their last oil money in making a sustainable desalination plants.
@Dr. Irina Luminesk all the gulf countries were desert lol. like look at dubai you think it wasn't desert 30 years ago..? uae/qatar to all the gulf countries were just desert now these are cool looking cities.
These videos are all very cynical hitpieces.. I'm no fan of some of Saudi Arabia's practices.. but every single one of these videos try to paint sinister motives &cryptic agendas.. when the reality is this is just someone trying to enhance their country. The lack of journalistic coverage is stark
@@copernicub wait a min, do you actually think this is possible to make?
@@Mark-Wilson wait what? Do you actually think it's gonna fail? 🤡
I'm no shipping expert but it seems like these container ships are going to be forced to make some extremely tight turns in order to dock. Seems like a poor design.
neom is full of ridiculous design plans, doomed to fail
That's how work is done under dictatorships.
Tugboats
@@batatanna You have to know the difference between Dictator vs Absolute Monarch. That the basic thing.
@@FitraRahim Call them the one that pisses them off more, I have little sympathy for any dictator or absolute monarch
Not a civil engineer, but from what I learned from your videos of Kuwait and Dubai, the quality of water in this design will be pretty bad. Also I don’t see the point of only having one opening for this city, wouldn’t it be better for ships to enter from one end and exit from the other as opposed to doing a U-turn? They seem to prefer form over function to get attention.
You lost the moment you compared this to dubai and kuwait… this city will be located on the red sea not the Arabian gulf there are 2 completely seas with completely different waters… nonetheless this area is located up north very near to suize so its very much expected to be an important port in the future…
absolutely this, Saudi Arabia is to a worse extent than either Kuwait or Dubai, they do things for attention and acclaim and it rarely works. the Kingdom Tower is a huge waste of time and money, they've basically abandoned the idea of Jeddah being the countries financial hub in favor of more outlandish projects. the Line and NEOM are just as much complete wastes of time and displaceed how many people despite little to no fan fair towards them and now this project is continuing that. This is one of the most shameless countries in the world, they do these things for attention because they know when oil keeps falling and/or the monarchy falls Saudi Arabia will not be able to keep going.
@@LightestKing wrong ☠️☠️ you clearly do not know what u r talking about ?? Do you think neom will pay itself? No, the government is still running major projects in jeddah and turning it into the next dubai… they have literally wiped half of the city? Why do u think so?…. Why is them taking major risks and improving the country triggering u that much? If you know that oil will fall why would u still invest it in and not expand??
This is not the same to either of the two. The Palms in dubai are islands with canals in between them and in Kuwait, it is just the canals cut in land. Here, the whole city will be floating. So, there is no complete obstruction of water.
The whole point of vanity projects is attention over function and necessity
Polymatter, Kurzgesagt, OBF, Wendover, and Neo all uploaded a new video in a space less than a week! What a week!
And Real Life Lore
@@heidirabenau511 RRL is shite
Thanks for the channels :)
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@@amazinggaming9870 I watched all !!!
Engineer: so how often do you want this to flood?
Prince: yes!
Take some time to understand what "floating" means
Maybe a year?
Looks like a good idea for a VR world. Stupid for the real world. They should build a floating community proof-of-concept community first in an existing city to work out the engineering challenges at least. Even then there's going to be so much maintenance to do for the islands, how will it ever be profitable. Companies will move to the cheapest location once government money dries up, and workers will certainly not be paid enough to live there.
Building a factory along the cost or on island could be very helpful in matters of logistics and supply chain, cooling system, sustainable energy ..etc, and of course a good office views 🙂
We already build something similar to this project, check out KAUST and king Abdullah Economic City. Also there are tons of mega projects along the cost of thr red sea such as the red sea project, Amaala, Jeddah and Jizam development.
Not mentioning that a lot of countries used the same idea.
Yes! Exactly .. there are no pre-trials, because if they failed, everyone will say, or at least know, that the prince was wrong. He can never be wrong. A project that its benefits cannot be discussed openly is doomed from the start. Saudi industrial facilities cannot compete in most industries, and it's not their fault really. High costs just made it uneconomic to have industries serving outside markets, as for locally made and consumed products, they tend to rely on many imported inputs because of the limited natural resources, other than oil, fresh water and arable land. These are the problems in front of industry in KSA. I cannot see how a floating port will solve any of that. Maybe if they make lots of high-added-value industries that can compete, but these industries tend to need workers with many years of experience and complicated production pipelines. Will see.
Well, bcause many managers surf on a VR buzz wave, and do coke, they may fall onto it..
Japanese had the same plans in the 1960's... Guess its never gonna happen.
@@Kiyoone they arlady started with the infrastructure, and there are some of the big names signed or start working on site, Airproduct, Aqua power, Enwa l, Foxconn, Maclaren, Fas energy, and gulf modular international. That's what coming to my mind right now, and as you see it's not that big it's only a small town
Anyone who has ever owned a boat knows what happens when you 'park' the boat in the water for even a moderate length of time. In the first place, the different metals interact with flowing salt water and begin to dissolve. The second is that marine growth (everything from barnacles to seaweed) begin to attach and grow like crazy. They add considerable weight and alter water flow.
This is nuts.
As I've previously said, if Neom succeeds in all its goals, I'd eat my hat.
@@mohammedalnasser796 The Burj Khalifa is at the end of the day just 1 building although hard to construct I don't think you can compare it in scale with NEOM, Saudia Arabia has already built fancy cities that nobody occupies.
@@Roseblindbags123 Saudi arabia has not finished any fancy city that nobody occupies, they're all a goal of 2030, and they're all in construction with 10000s of workers living there, people said literally the same thing about palm jumeirah, dubai, and doha, and yet look at how that ended up, the whole of dubai was a project like this but with a smaller budget
with the amount of money they are pumping into it, i'd eat my hat if it didn't Lol, money speaks, look at all the middle eastern projects, dubai, palm jumeirah, kuwait city, doha, much more
@@Roseblindbags123 Saudi Arabia is much greater than UAE, haven’t you seen how Mecca and Riyadh transformed ?? Saudi can build dozens of futuristic cities across Saudi Arabia
@@ryan-xe9ez those islands in dubai are sinking also dubai dosent even have proper sewage system and public transit. it is just copy of american cities which are road dependent.
A big problem that I have with projects like this and The Line is that they're based on the assumption that we need to preserve land in a desert. If there's more demand for real estate, the simple answer is to build more housing in Riyadh and Jeddah which are already established cities.
yep basically there trying to go into Dubai and Kuwait approach of creating new valuable land yet forgetting the reason they went this way was there habitable land running out
Deserts do need to be preserved, 1/5th of the world is made up of deserts.
They have many nutrients and ecosystems for animals.
The Amazon only exists because the strong winds carry nutrients from the libyan desert over the ocean then dump those nutrients on the amazon.
Northwestern Saudi Arabia has more Mediterranean climate and more animals than the rest of the deserts in the country.
Saudi Arabia is already building housing projects in Riyadh and Jeddah, in 2015 the percentage of Saudi’s who owned homes was at 40%, the goal was to reach 60% by 2020, they managed to reach 67%, you can do both
There are problems in these project, that's correct but it's not in the aspect of building in desert
@@الناجي-ذ2ذ I'm saying that it's not necessary.
having a noise polluting harbor in the middle of a city sounds a bit- inconvenient to say the least
Inconvenient? Try stupid.
Itd not in the middle of the City
Its south of cit.
Did you watch the video? it is ment to be the industrial area of the region
@@stevieg6418 yes I did watch the video. Still the economicand industrial noise polluting area does not need to be in the centre, which is my point here.
@@0rangeG Well I don't think you know what an industrial city is like. If you visited any in the region like I have you will have a better understanding of what one is actually like.
Why stop at octagon, should add infinite sides and make a circle city
The Circle, The Line...
Great work as always comrade. Greetings from NK.
Imposter. You would have said DPRK. Better luck next time. 😛
@P. B. Foote He very well might. Trump loved Twitter after all. But he wouldn’t refer to his country as North Korea.
@P. B. Foote I think he said “Big Mac good” before.
This is like the 4th mega project I’ve seen from Saudi Arabia. If they wanted to make a non oil dependent economy they could just massively improved their current cities or make new modern cities that look like their other existing cities but make them more efficient…
I live in Saudi Arabia and I agree!
How are you so good at making the sponsored parts to your videos? Like seriously! In all of your vids its so well in-tuned with the topic! Well done keep it up
Whenever I see some big vanity projects announced or in the works I think of the basics, especially on the floating section for this project, what are they doing about Fresh drinking water, what are they doing about Sewerage, what are they doing about solid waste disposal, what are they doing about supplying electricity to the individual homes on the floating section, what are they doing about the transportation needs of the people. Last, what steps are being taken to protect the environment, the land and the underwater parts of this. These are the basics I know, but they are the most important parts I think. Get them wrong or have them unworkable then this project is a failure.
Such things had been already addressed in a brilliant creative ways. you could search it up.
Yeah. Like why complicate things by building half the city off the coast when you can just build one fully on solid land, where building literally everything from sewage and power lines to the buildings themselves will be cheaper. But I guess the king and his right hand men are more impressed by "unique and cool" rather than functional and afforable design, and the foreign designers they hire are more than happy to be thrown money at for playing up to the kings fantasies
@@SiLaChaCha Which is located in UAE not Saudi Arabia. Two separate counties. Know your geography 😂.
@@Jolmood you didn't address anything Karma said. To have the guts to say that this will be good for the environment is beyond me
@@SiLaChaCha What's the point then? Talk to a neighbour country about how their world tallest building doesn't have a sewage system 🤣. U know, one shouldn't stuff their nose in stuff they ain't got not saying in.
I personally do not see this city going beyond the conceptual stage anytime in the near future.
However, a floating city in general can allow for greatly reduced cooling costs. The water helps moderate the heat.
I'm happy the video is somewhat critical of the project, but really that doesn't even scratch the surface. The practical challenges this poses including the money and toll on the environment this will definitely entail is crazy. Why can't they just for the love of god invest heavy heavy into solar
Shh don't ruin the video, let neo get his Saudi-sponsored money for promoting pro-Saudi propaganda
@@adinitum4168 congrats you made the most bigoted comment in this comment section
solar bad for cities
@@rinku_yay how is it bigoted
@@adinitum4168 he didn't say anything pro Saudi or spread any propaganda he just reported
What I'm missing here is the why. Why build this project in a remote corner of the country, rather than say just outside Jeddah where there is already an airport, train links, labor pool, etc. Why the gimmicks, such as a city as a line, a floating half city, etc. Why moving vast amounts of money from the Saudi treasury to his own area, even though he and his dad already have absolute control in the country? Are these projects for real, or is the motive more related to power and corruption?
the reason is that they want to move away from oil to tourism and other sectors, many people will look at these innate flawed projects and see big high tech amazing city's so they go there to experience it and Saudi Arabia can profit of of these people
Because Neom will be a futuristic place
Its called the Greater Israel Project. Thats why you see the Line and Egypt new citys etc. The Kings in Saudi Arabia are not Muslims. Saud Clan. Look it up.
Thats also why all the Wars there happend and why they displace, Replace "Reffugees" away from there.
I am not very familiar with Saudi Arabian geography but further north makes sense in terms of being a bit away from Equator.
Discovered this channel few days ago one of my s tier TH-cam Video Essay and research analysis Channel I watch right now, Insane Geo Layers animations, awesome storytelling. I hope some day I will do this type of infographics for my channel
Seems to make a lot more sense to just build a big trench or maybe a few trenches around already standing land.
I love these Saudi future projects, they remind me of future oblivian dystopian world movies, they’re trying to make it to reality
@hiooxkrmagkis9323tell me one project fail in saudi arabia?
@hiOOxkr magkis And who told you that?, everyone said about the vision of the kingdom will fail at the beginning but now look how Saudi’s sources of income (non-oil profits) have increased and 95% of the projects had returns to the country GDP. So I don’t why people are making the projects that the kingdom are working on so negative and just gonna fail.
How do you get from one half of the city to the other by any practical means? It should have a central spine like the palm jumeirha.
If the sea level rises, the floating half will be fine while the city near the shore is flooded.
it will not Rise, why do you think all the Elites around the World By Coast Line stuff? you think they all stupid? no, its a scam to make normys, sell there Coastal Propertys.
@@ersinavseren5443 So these are in-water tunnels (not beneath the sea) that join to the underside of the floating city?
The project has a full paper released on it that details a lot of the issues and their solutions.
As mentioned above they use tunnels to link the two parts.
As for sea level rises the red sea is set to not rise much compared to the Atlantic or the North Sea as those seas are closer to the polar regions (yes btw‚ sea levels arent all the exact same) and the sea level rise is taken into account by elevating the sides of the project.
Which isn't an issue as container ships are tall enough to reach and the containers themselves are managed using cranes.
here in Saudi Arabia it's almost like CIV 6. we get tested on a lot of things including a hex city
The GOAT
I just love your intro mate don't leave it out, the difference between mostly black Syria and mostly bright Turkiye is just inexpressible...
Turkiye is the pride of the Muslim world and defender of Islam. Greetings from Pakistan
What a smooth transition to the sponsor. I'm always looking forward to your videos, Neo! Keep it up.
Also, I would love a video about the 'new' Line project. As their first proposal was already ridiculous, the second one seems outright dystopic
i can tell you that the solution for the future is not a line of american style suburbs in the middle of the desert
It’s nothing like American suburbs lol! It’s a city without cars! I’m sure American suburbs are full if cars, streets and parking lots!
I love Saudi Arabia and its way of working, ignoring all the standards of the West and heading in a direction of its own
man, love its way of using slaves and forced labor to complete its labor projects, truly gong in a direction of its own :D
@@asliceofcheese9989 labor is paid for bro what you on about lol
@@MuntahaZad i live in UAE and its also one of those countries where this shit happens often and let me tell you, they are severely underpaid at 175$ a month and even then, actual numbers are even lower considering the fact that their salary is almost always overdue
They are getting paid with this low amount of money and yet have to endure the conditions of the arabian climate and are being overworked for it
go back and read your sources before coming back to me and stop believing in that propaganda bullshit
@@asliceofcheese9989 lol I also live in the KSA (sadly more like lived now), so don't get too nasty bro.
I see what you on about, and it is sad if that is really true. The people working in the gulf come there by their own choice my dear! They earn more working in those conditions, than they were back at home (South Asia mostly). And guess what, I am a South Asian as well.
You get what I'm trying to say (I mean no hate lol). If what you are trying to say is that they should get paid more, then I really hope that becomes the case. Everybody loves a raise.
@@MuntahaZad they do come here by choice bbut that thing is, they were manipulated into coming here.
They were promised a good life in the uae and other gulf countries and even took out loans up to upwards of 3000$ to pay for their own plane tickets and once there, they realized it was all a sham and have to endure the working conditions here.
To top it all off, their passports get taken away so they have no way to go back home even if they have the sufficient money to be able to.
I laughed hard reading those comments. Everybody suddenly became an expert. :D
They were more expert than the western expert that is working on this project though.
You don't have to be an expert to say ''this project is stupid''. It is pretty obvious it is stupid.
@@FitraRahim That western expert is getting paid by Saudi Arabia. İf you pay me i'll do the stupid projects you want, i don't care just give my paycheck.
@@emirhan_snl Yeah this is just a game. Everyone can tell what's stupid and what's not lol. If you don't need to be an expert to tell then why are they even doing and wasting money on this project :D
@@sheikhhashashin6946 Because they are stupid. They are literally building a city in line form, just because it looks cool. Most stupid way to build a city btw.
When a place's name is so close to Neon, y'know, like neon lights? Cyberpunk cities? Full of neon signs? Like c'mon this pace needs to be an extremely futuristic cyberpunk kinda place. It'd be a wasted opportunity otherwise
Also that transition to the sponsor is goddamn smooth as butter. You really got me with that one. Love it, one of my favourite transitions.
In the context of rising sea levels, building a new coastal city sounds like a terrible idea.
The PIF chaired by the crown Prince is doing greate things, this model of economical development is outstanding, where the capital investment on sector development is done by the PIF while the government budget focuses on the welfare of citizens and capital investment on regular infrastructur such as roads and maintenance.
The PIF is creating so many companies within the county to boost and even create industries out of nowhere, they're spending money from asset liquidation and dividend and even loans, so the country will keep on developing without affecting the budget which has been in deficient for 6 years now, hell I mean the PIF recently created a Coffe company to boost the Arabica coffe agriculture industry in the South of the country, also created a Militry manufacturing company to increase internal output of military equipment, and so on and so forth ... for us this is all greate news .. new jobs new non oil sectors and it's all ground breaking.
An 8 sided octagon! What will they think of next! 😅
The ad placement was the smoothest iv seen.
This looks like a stupid idea when you have miles of coast available to build on and ship access, just seems like a pet project
Are you Engineer? 🥴
@@MDIbrahim-pg1sk Are you blind? 🥴
@@emirhan_snl Are you mad?🥴
Go play PS4 man
Engineers have planned for this years you came out of your Ps4 to tell us is a bad idea or good?
@@princeofarabia96 Yeah lets assume everyone saying this ''project is stupid'' kids. How mature amk.
"How do you imagine city of the future?"
There isn't any definition for "city of the future". There shouldn't be. Only these 4 characteristics are needed for a city to be a good city. No futuristic bs
1)Sustainable
2)Good Public transport (which is lacked by the hyped cities of Gulf countries like Dubai)
3)Pedestrian friendly (instead of car centric)
4)Good sewage system (Dubai doesn't have a sewage system, thousands of poop trucks carry Dubai poop out of the city every week)
@@savxired He never said Dubai was a country...
@@Vortecus ur right i read it wrong
Dubai is not saudi arabia
Dubai actually has pretty good public transportation with their metro and bus system. I visited before the pandemic. The only issue is that the metro is in a straight line, along with the city, along the coastline. And only the Burj Khalifa needs poop trucks, not the whole city. They also have desalination plants to convert the salt water into drinking water. It isn't walkable since there are highways everywhere, but it's also unbearably hot most of the year, so it makes some sense.
What you said about Dubai is not true. Maybe visit the place before judging
What happened to the WTC video?!
Copyright issue maybe? I really hope they manage to upload again, the quality was outstanding.
Absolutely beautiful video, really something to aspire to as a content creator. I hope I'll be able to master 3D soon enough
Saudi Arabia is a beautiful country Alhamdulila 🇸🇦😍
LOL
Damn, that's one of the smoothest ad transitions I've ever seen
I advise you and everyone to learn more about what is the different between Ocean, Sea and gulf!!
i like how neo assume that the viewers dont know what is an octagon, and specifically telling that it has 8 sides
Let’s hope the architects remember to include a sewer system this time, instead of requiring an endless convoy of (road) tankers to ship it elsewhere.
That was solely for the tallest building, the rest had sewer systems.
That has nothing to do with KSA and this 'project'. The building you're referring to is located in the UAE. Shows how ignorant you are.
Are you just trying to find any excuse to shit on Arabs? Dubai's growing so fast that the utilities are always catching up
Saudi Arabia is a separate country from the UAE. Dubai isn't in Saudi Arabia, it's in the UAE.
Also, as of 2016, Dubai was one of the only major cities in the world that treated 100% of its waste.
@@ASLUHLUHC3 When was the Burj Khalifa built? What year is it now? I think they have had plenty of time for the utilities to catch up
Also what kind of architectural and engineering firms build the world's biggest building without taking basics like sewage into account?
Criticism has to be given where necessary
potentially the best advert segway i've seen in a while, well played sir
*Saudi Arabia and the entire middle East needs to focus on one thing: innovation! In the past, when Arabs were the richest, and the most powerful, the innovation in various fields were so high! We need to regain that status.. remember things go from uv to ir... and we are uv! *...
Will if you see the 2 richest oil countries in the world (Venezuela and Saudi) and how each country manage to run their oil industry you will understand that it’s not just oil money, but the mind that puts behind such wealth and managements
nah, saudis arent doing that great. It´s just capitalism vs socialism again and the result is clear aswell
@@thetaomega7816 too many examples to choose from, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Alregira .. etc all those countries have as much and sometimes even more resources, the Royal family puts the wealth of the country into economic development we're even going further than that and developing cutting edge projects .. we're pushing the limits and people from all around the world are participating, but as always people just focus on discriminating all of what we're doing.
Its more about who is sanctioned by United States, and who is the loyal servant dog of United States :)) Saudi America 51st state of the US
@@emirhan_snl I think you are from turkey the dog of Nato. Ask yourself why they sanctioned Venezuela? Because bad management.
@@emirhan_snl jealous turk😂
When I read the comments
I think that everyone has a PhD in the field of engineering, but the reality is that the majority do not even have a job
I only ask you to remain silent until the project ends, and then you will see that you are wrong
It will be dead in the water within a few years. You don't need a PhD to see how stupid this shit is
🤣because building on water is so smart .
Still a better idea than the line
There aren’t many countries with more space per capita than Dismemberstan (Saudi Arabia). Building out onto the water makes no sense, outside the realm of unfinished vanity projects.
if you only consider the geography of Saudi Arabia, then it actually makes perfect sense. the reason the vast majority of land in Saudi Arabia is unused is that most of the land in the country is completely unsuitable, for any purpose. The Arabian desert is one of the largest subtropical deserts in the entire world, any sort of development in this region is beyond impractical. Heat extremes which make it borderline uninhabitable to begin with. A complete and total lack of access to any type of water, anywhere (Saudi Arabia is the largest country in the world which does not contain even one single river). The ground is completely unsuitable for constructing large buildings because it is nearly impossible to stabilize, any foundation you build will shift and the building will collapse in a matter of years. The desert sand is also completely useless for construction because of its shape, the Saudis have to import all the sand they use for construction. There are many other reasons as well, but it should be clear now why Saudia Arabia and other Arabian countries are constantly looking to create more space along their coast instead of building in the middle of one of the largest and most inhospitable deserts on earth
These megaprojects and reforms serve two purposes:
a) To convince the world that Saudi Arabia is modernizing and thus attract investment and create an economy less reliant on oil (basically, they're trying to replicate the UAE's success; only 13% of the UAE's GDP comes from oil now).
b) To whitewash the human rights violations. I'm not even talking about the murder of Khashoggi and the bombing of Yemen, but the internal human rights of Saudi Arabia are enough to convince everyone of the horrors this kingdom perpetrates.
I've seen it myself. Saudi Islamic scholars who have criticized the kingdom for becoming liberal hypocrites (by opening bikini beaches and ditching Sharia law) have been targeted. The Saudi police throw guns in their homes and arrest them on charges of "terrorism" or "extremism". Being a good Muslim in Saudi Arabia and speaking out about the facaduous reforms now has a price to pay in the so-called "Islamic" kingdom.
In reality, the grandson of Saudi Arabia's founder recently admitted that the kingdom was never founded for the purpose of Islam. It was founded for political reasons. The British helped the Saudi tribe rebel against the Ottoman Empire (and also genocide many other tribes and Muslims) and Saudi Arabia was born.
Fast forward, a California-based company struck black gold; fast forward further, the first and only Saudi King to be against the Western world for their support of Israel, managed to bring down Western economies to their knees with the 1973 oil embargo. He was eventually killed by his own nephew who had a Jewish girlfriend ironically. After Faisal's murder, the hypocrites backed by the West (because they shared a common enemy: Iran) took over.
Right now, they are cracking down on all activists who speak out against the monarchy. It doesn't matter if they're conservative or liberal. Everyone who is speaking out is getting tossed in the prisons. Islamist, secularist, feminists and religious activists have all been kidnapped, beaten, and even executed. And there's a complete media black out as to what is going to happen to the people that will be displaced by NEOM.
They Saudis are trying to play a double game. On one hand they want to present themselves as "Muslims" to the Islamic world to keep their political influence, but on the other hand they want to present themselves as "liberal" to the Western world to expand their economy. What are they really? They're tyrants. The Qur'an describes these people as "munafiqs" which roughly translates to hypocrites.
Western countries, especially America, should cut ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia if they really care about human rights. But I doubt they will. Crazy how money has become everyone's god all of a sudden.
@@salvatoreasante6907 Shut up. @Robustus and other people that mock {Saudi/Gov/Prince/King/Royal} in this comment section know more about Saudi Arabia than you and Saudi peoples. Just shut up...
@@salvatoreasante6907 your response would make perfectly sense if we live in the Disney's little mermaid world lol.
@@salvatoreasante6907 actually, there are skyscrapers in Riyadh
3:45 pretty sure Saudi Arabia isn't the place to make a city representing "peace and harmony" or "humanity and nature"
"why would they bould a city like this"
to put it simply, like CGPgrey said: "Hexagons, Bestagons"
It is a Octagon Not a Hexagon
Basically rehashing the star forts of old. Pretty cool.
Hexagon and line formats, too formalist, seem like the old modernists of pure forms designing over blanck slates all over again, instead of having the city's shape be informed by pre-existing local contexts. But my main point of concern and criticism: local (mostly nomadic) peoples who have been inhabiting this whole neon project area for centuries already - if not millennia - are being forcefully relocated, expropriated or even downright killed when not complying to orders given from above. It does not make any sense to get there and destroy thousands of peoples' livelihoods who were just fine until now, only to build mega projects no one asked for and will serve mostly for autocratic saudis to stay in power after oil is gone...
Things work differently in this part of the world. The vast majority of the country will benefit if these projects are successful, not just the royals. Dubai's projects look ridiculous too, but they've been working relatively well for the most part. A vast majority of Saudis do support their leaders.
moreover, this project is most likely dead in the bud.
Either way, this project is set to fail and if it doesn't, THEN it benifits the 'locals' you talked about that would be 'killed' if they didn't comply with their rules. don't talk like you know anything about this place.
These people ur talking about are only 20k, it’s a Bedouin tribe, and they all got extremely well compensations… hell if I was offered that money I would relocate as well.
@@TheGeoSami from what I’m reading it is you who doesn’t know anything about this place
I am from India, nice video 👌👌😊
Never thought I’d be this early to a neo video. Currently 5 am😂
I really don’t know whypeople are just criticizing and being two faced people on the projects that the Saudis are building, everyone in west said at the beginning of their vision that it will fail and now we can see how their non-oil income has increased and the kingdoms GDP increased to highs. Let them build and after that criticize. Don’t be biased and see it from a one point of view.
Love this content. My cheers to the saudi for the incredible effort.
The floating island would be the perfect place for all the workers to live.
I think some information in this video gives the project too much credit, it is a dictator's dream at best, unsustainability is lhe least of its problems. A top-down planned city never worked really like intended, Saudi Arabia has its shares of failed empty collosal waste of money projects, half-built skyscrapers and abandoned communes reveal the truth of urban planning in Saudi Arabia, and without doubt they can hire as many experts as they could, and still, would an expert really try to correct the vision of a king that butchers his dissent?
Exactly, dictators dream. Since when has any dictators dream like this come true? This was hot air
@@PostWarKids Mohammed Gaddafi
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@@Morso8 مصري حسود
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At 8:06, you can see that the Prince is literally not touching or stealing any money from the country’s “budget”, he developed a really REALLY smart way to finance his futuristic oil-independent projects without really affecting the citizens much. It just shows you that he’s not just a regular “Prince”, he’s an extremely smart, ambitious, clever prince. He’s built different. And I think by now we can clearly see how he was able to expand his power so much to the point becoming the next heir to the throne.
Probs to him for being clever yet fair & just to his people 👏🏼… whether his plans work out or not, it really seems he’s totally doing this out of sheer ambition. Even if his plans succeed by only 60%, that will still be revolutionary considering how visionary they are!
True😊🇵🇭
Apparently he orders journalists to be murdered too but that’s none of my business
Very accurate comment, as someone who lived there, this is very true, MBS gained so much power yet took nothing from its citizens instead he is reforming cities, new projects, new cities, new neighborhoods, etc.
Nice video.
My aunt works at Neom.
Very light on information
We have been witnessed many projects in saudi, lets see what will they do.
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Watch a journey through time project in the city of AlUla, a city that will transport you to the ancient past
It's not on the ocean, it's on the red sea.
In Dubai I’ve seen tons of ads for this new project called Oxagon I think
Saudi Arabia has changed enormously within couple of years since King Salman took the thrown. There are many projects inside the country by PIF and it's huge and it's exactly like what they've been promoting. I have a great confidence NEOM is going to be promosing.
*Prince
Why waste so much money building in the ocean? Why not build on the vast empty desert instead? It's not like Saudi Arabia is running out of empty land. This is a vanity project.
i know people working in NEOM, they are miserable. they havent done anything for the past 5 years. Meanwhile, the red sea project has actual potential.
ivy league graduates getting overpaid to do nothing at NEOM. waste of money and human resources
@@dom1abc1mbc you cant compare the two projects, I live in the area where the Red Sea project is taking place, there is enormous progress and its almost on schedule, many of my people got jobs and the project turned our small city into a world attraction, Neom will do the same but on the scale of a country, its a 500$ billion project while the red sea is even less than 20$, Neom will take more time to realise its vision, but once it does even if it realises a portion of its vision it will be a huge profit for the country
can we know from which point u start your research on each topic because your videos are more understandable than a lecture class
When Dubai was built, the Europeans were laughing who would visit it.. and see today Today, the Arabs do it again
The Italians have them beaten by a thousand years. This was already done in Venice, in the 11 th century. 😁
And Venice is sinking
This is some 1950's World's Fair ridiculousness
In terms of technology 1950s ridiculousness got you where you are now
As in the failures of the past inform the successes of the future? Sure this might be a good proving ground for ideas but I don’t think it’s going to come anywhere to achieving it’s stated goals
@@Greenmachine0823 it is difficult to achieve but not impossible
Why was Octagon was chosen instead of a hexagon? If efficiency is concerned, hexagon is the most efficient shape (i.e observed in beeswax and snowflakes formation)
Seeing thumbnails like this is kinda depressing, we are on the brink of an ecological disaster and the thing we decide to do is, out of all possible things, building floating cities
It’s 100% renewable energy dependent and 0% carbon emittions 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t know why you complaining.
whats wrong with a floating city man
Stop freaking complaining
@Zaydan Naufal there will be no plastic construction or using within this site
I advise you to read more about Neom, it’s probably the world’s cleanest project in history.
Saudi arabia is not running out of money, and they're defintely not in an ecological disaster, the west pumps 100s of billions into wars, and all you care about is SA building a new city? Lol
Great documentary
I just got back from Amsterdam, so the idea of a city paved with canals doesn't sound that bad to me. If only it wasnt being built in a theocracy
It's a monarchy
not every country that has a civilized decency standards is a theocracy, frankly the country is better for young people than the netherland where young people are competing over glorified wardrobe as housing and familial values are comparable with neanderthals.
Debates on the meaning of theocracy have led some scholars to widen the definition of theocracy to include states that are not theocracies in the traditional sense, such as Saudi Arabia and the USA under George W. Bush. In turn, it has been argued that some apparently secular contemporary states that legislate morality actually do so on the basis of a historical trajectory proceeding from Protestant notions of guilt, and should thus be termed secular theocracies. Although the global influence of religious political ideologies has grown over the past three decades including France which practice sectarian secularism since its colonial period to date ( i.e. Pro Catholicism and anti Islam ) . in fact the Maronite Catholic Church in the Mideast which is sponsored by France politically and financially have been the first to be involved in modern religious terrorism in the Arab world, the French defended the church in the UN after the UN accused it of committing genocide on civilians .
@@Jewzi123 france is mainly invading north africa and occupying west africa alongside eu and nato full support.
as for theocracies, it is stupid to broaden the term meaning, if its ruled by priests then a theocracy, if not then its not.
never heard of churches in the middle east doing anything significant, its usually nato supported paramilitary organizations that are in charge of clandestine operations that nato uses in its occupation policy in iraq, libya and occupied parts of syria.
@@Jewzi123 rest of the middle east is mainly among the top 20 safest countries in the world, some in top 30.
This is why you should not let the architect take the lead on mega project. Only the beauty is emphasis, but the cost, technology, feasibility, finance and real tangible benefit are thrown out of the window.
Investing in technology and future tech will likely benefit a country and locating it on a global naval trade route is of course ideal. As far as how to make the city float, ask Archimedes 🤣😂
They also invest in technology. But, of course this thing more atractive to be "mock" by people like you. If you wanted to know more about them, just see SPA (Saudi Press Agency), the Saudi Official Goverment News. The news is not coming to you, but you need to reach the news from the source (And of course you need to understand Arab if you want to know more about them, this is foundation).
The poor sea life is going to be like what the hell look at the new construction
If the Oxagon is meant to be the industrial hub of Neom then it needs to make sustainability, green-tech, clean safe waterways and a proper infrastructure that keeps industrial pollution and refuse out of the waterways altogether. They also need to closely monitor local marine life for any invasive species brought in by visiting ships. The Saudi PIF fund is a great initiative but I pray that Saudi Arabia builds any of its mega projects with green-tech, pollution mitigation and sustainability as a central tenet.
The problem is that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a TERRIBLE place to live if your aren't a fundamentalist Muslim. The only reason Westerners live there is because they can make a lot of money with no income taxes.
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From a true far thinking standpoint it be best to move cities away from any green into terrain that supports no life, like deserts. Any green spot should either be protected or used for agriculture/food production. Hell, building a second Paris above the first Paris (like on pillars, seen in Deus Ex) would allow to then recover a lot of fertile land. Cities as they are right now came to be in ancient times or the dark ages, I think it is time to move towards more sustainable options.
Its hard to transport goods to the Desert.
Desserts have ecosystems as well and you can’t build a major city without having resources or having water resources nearby to supply the city and this would reflect on transporting goods and services as well
This might be the dumbest thing I’ve read this month
Imagine having so much money you could just say “hey build me a city”. And when you’re told “there’s not enough room bc of the ocean” and just be like “ok? So build it on the ocean. Figure it out. Here’s more money”
You could say there are many sides to this project 🤪 it’s pretty exciting as a vision but I always believe cities work more as natural organisms in their own right and we can only support or restrict their growth not build them from anew. People go where they want to be, not where they should be, just my opinion anyways
now i have a passing interest in logistics so a couple questions came to mind upon seeing this proposed city:
how do people get from the residential area to the industrial area?
from the cgi plan they gave the only solid road would be on the northern exterior which would severely limit the moment of people in the south. if they use bridges then that will increase the cost of operation even more as well as slow down both traffic and shipping as they can only allow either cars or boats through at once.
where will the public transportation go?
no city on earth can survive without public transportation, and with the residential area being entirely on water and very close together this means that most forms of public transportation like rail/metro/small boats or even trams cannot function without a heavy redesign.
where is the medium-high density housing/where is commercial?
as proposed the main economic draw of the city will be its industrial zone, a business type that does not typically lend itself to single occupant housing which often creates demand for higher density housing, something that at current would struggle to actually float even more than the current housing scheme. not to mention that the only place for a commercial area (cafe's, offices, public services ect) is to have them either mixed in with the residential which appears to be using lower capacity roads making deliveries harder or in the industrial area putting businesses away from customers and taking up your main money producing space.
where will the boats go?
cargo ships are well known for not being the most nimble of vessels, so why is the plan implying that a cargo ship will have to enter the city, do a U turn in a very confined space, off load/load and then go on its way? if the main idea for the city was to focus on the shipping lane they should have completely disconnected the sections and have the water way act as a 1 way road taking deliveries from the south and sending the exports to the north. as it stands the bridges i previously suspect them of planning to use will now see twice the disruption
whats the land value of a house looking at a dirty cargo ship?
some people may very well appreciate the smell of oil in the morning followed by the sight of a rusting hulk when in their back garden, but not many. Because with single occupant housing theres no way your going to see anything else if your living on the interior of the octagon.
when happens if you get too many people or businesses?
if the whole gimmick of your city is it being a certain shape your pinning alot of hope on that city never needing to expand else it breaks the shape (for an example look at the city of Brasilia which was meant to be in the shape of a bird but has over the years grown malformed yet still retains the inefficiencies of its base rigid shape)
and for the final one, if these projects are actually planned to work and actually exist wouldnt you want to perhaps have the line go from north to south and connect the other cities?
while filled with its own flaws having three cities acting in tandem would pose some possible synergies.
they could have the octagon serve as the lower income industrial hub, move goods by rail up to the line which is proposed to mostly be high density housing and commercial space and then finally connect it to the mountain town which will inevitably house the rich and elite.
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It is easy for the masses to critique the ideas of those who dream big meanwhile wondering when next a video on how to boil the perfect egg will be recommended on TH-cam.
Exactly
wonder if they planed for abandoned buildings for the alternative art scene to settle
Pennisula Arab States/GCC always make me cringe with their policies.
One of my thoughts somewhere at 3:30: Dang, what if a tidal wave hits?
Some shiny things I considered:
- What will happen to the ocean life when this is under construction?
- If they are keeping millions of people here, why are they only using solar and wind? Why not use a light water nuclear power plant with all this water?
- They are totally gonna use oil for power as they probably will be too scared to use nuclear and recycle the nuclear waste
- Why not just use the desert on shore to build the entire thing?
- How will this city float without sinking?
- I think this is a ripoff of venice, they are taking inspiration from that city and making it blade runner 2025: Whirlpool State
These people were building the idiotic LINE(which at least had the sign of “public transit”) but honestly. Wtf? Bro loaded up city skylines, and said… yeah this is gonna slap
The Line are already building its tunnels, they are doing all 3 Neom cities simultaneously
@@alialshehri6977 can't wait for half of the city to be blocked because of one car crash in one of the tunnels, sure is gonna be easy to acces for an ambulance!
@@alialshehri6977 can't wait for half of the city to be blocked because of one car crash in one of the tunnels, sure is gonna be easy to acces for an ambulance!
@@Annae_xs there won’t be any cars lol
@@alialshehri6977 what? i'm talking about the transportation tunnels underneath? Have you seen the "demo's" of the line they clearly show cars in tunnels underneath are you just ignoring that? There wont be any roads above ground they are just moved underground which btw will surely be a great driving experience
Thank you for your answers