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@@GamersNexus yep i keep hearing about this being a thing but have not actually seen it proven to the level you are able to. Got a 5600x and a rx 6800, would not even consider an apu and i'm still interested
Forsure do a dedicated memory overclocking special with this chip. Its one of the biggest selling points of these for the enthusiast market. Theres a good minority of memory overclocking diehards who will love tinkering with these and will want to know exactly how they compare to the 4000 series APUs.
Ah yes, comparing this new APU with their previous would be amazing since they didn't change the GPU inside and barely increase the performance of the CPU (Increase to base clock, boost clock and L3 Cache).
@@bobobobo1693 Uh... Zen 2 to Zen 3 was a decent enough performance increase. The 5600G has half the cache of the 3600, yet matches or beats it by a little in most cases.
@@ironmantooltime never said it didn't increased, I said it increased marginally, 0.2Mhz to the boost and base with an extra 8mb in L3. Watch ETA prime video, his benchmark aren't the best I'll admit, with games all over and different ram but it'll give you an idea.
This CPU aged really well. In most places I've checked recently, its 20-30% cheaper than 5600X. That is a significant price reduction for not that super significant performance loss. The iGPU is a good thing to have even if you never use it as a primary video device, if you ever need to troubleshoot a PC, or if your GPU breaks or anything else, iGPU is a lifesaver. It doesn't happen every day of course, but its a very, very good thing to have. Overall, it's a very, very good CPU right now, especially for end-of-the-road cpu for AM4 boards. Pair it with like 6650XT or 6700Xt and you'll have basically end of life machine with very decent performance for the next couple of years, at least. This CPU is in that weird category where it's not the absolute best, but it's best value for money, and it can't really be upgraded any further, so you can easily buy it now and avoid buyer's regret later, since nothing will really beat these CPU's in that specification anymore.
A bit late here, but do you know of a way to turn off your dedicated GPU while using this and turn back on when you want to use it for demanding games? Trying to limit my power usage and noise levels here, thanks
Finally, sensible CS:GO testing, 1080p Medium settings is pretty representative of what many users use, maybe even a little higher than the average regular player's settings.
@@GamersNexus Most people play with a resolution below 1080p and most settings set to low. 1024x768, 1280x960, 1440x1080p. Stretched to 16:9. Makes models wider.
I feel that a casual player would play at around 1080p medium-high. Which most people will probably be more casual then competitive. Most competitive players will probably play with resolutions lower than 1080p and closer to around 720p, with mainly low settings with a mix of a few high settings here and there, like shadows or shaders on high with everything else on low. Obviously there are some exceptions, like ropz. From what I’ve seen a lot of pros play on 1280x960 with low settings and higher shaders, shadows and anti aliasing. I might be wrong though.
@@-eMpTy- Most pros or hardcore players do yes. But the joke here is you can go find out what people are using, and the actual majority use 1080p low. Now if you take the player base and divide it based on total play time, the ones with more time played would track well with what you said.
@@bobnorman3094 just the APU build in Vega. It performed ok in the HP with single channel RAM, but once I pull it out and put it in a B550 MB + dual channel RAM, and a bit OC (first time OC Zen CPU), it is a true monster.
I did the same. $582 out the door from Office Depot. I just dropped in 2X8 GB RAM, did a clean OS install and it runs great. (I don't use it as a gaming rig, just to be clear). That HP BIOS is a tragedy, though.
This was very informative. Given the situation of the GPU market in Australia, even budget cards like the 1650 Super, 1660ti and RX 6600 XT are $200-$400 above their RRP so the 5600G is a very welcome addition to the PC market. I was planning on building a budget system by year's end, but I guess I'll just make do with a 5600G until GPU prices go down. Great video as always Steve.
Memory overclocking should be quite interesting in this APU, since it's monolithic and the memory controller is on 7nm unlike regular Ryzens and thus allow for much higher 1:1 ratio frequencies.
I vaguely remember the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy mentioning that when time travel was invented, languages had to implement new verb conjugations because the old ones became useless.
This looks like it's going to have a massive effect on the GPU shortage for e-sports gamers and other low budget builds, while still providing a CPU that's more than fast enough to feed literally any dedicated GPU on the market once one can get their hands on such a mythical creature. Also Bravo Steve, you're the first reviewer to get this product in my feed. Thanks Steve! Back to you!
Its not coming out for retail launch for 2 months, and has worse CPU performance than the 5600x. Its DOA for a placeholder GPU. Also by the time it launches we will have Alder lake with Intels newest Xe IGP that performs the same or better.
@@__aceofspades I don't think it's DOA at all if you can't buy a GPU. If Intel's version is better (and at a better cost), then I'd agree, but currently we don't know that.
I actually wonder if that was the real show when amd was showing off the stacked l3 cache. Because when I looked it up, besides a slight reduction in clock, the big difference between the 5600x and 5600g is that the g model has half the l3 cache. And is probably the reason it is performing closer the 3600 as a standalone cpu.
The Ryzen5700 also supports pcie4, and higher memspeed, Which also make it faster, but pricewise.... It's hard if you will later upgrade to dedicated fly, you might favor the pcie4
@@MrKOenigma depends on your board, I put this on an ASRock A320M board and as far as I am aware it only supports PCIe 3, so spending another $50+ would probably be a waste and is better put towards an AM5 system in a couple of years.
I recently purchased a custom built system for $500.00 with this processor. All components the builder chose to use were of surprisingly high quality! All the RGB fans and bling a person could ask for for about a third of what others are selling similar systems for! First thing I did was benchmark the system, I was very impressed with the results! I really can't see anyone being disappointed with this processor for it's price.
Honestly the fact that you can play basically every game on the market at 1080p low on an Apu is just so damn interesting to me. When I built my first pc I had no money, so when I was shopping around for a gpu, I was looking at a 730/745, as they were still pretty cheap back in the day. I ended up with a 1050ti that a friend gave to me, but I lived on a 1030 for about a year, and at the time it was a pretty decent gamer. Integrated graphics have gotten so good in only 5 years since then. Crazy stuff :D
Just built a PC using 5600G. And it's pretty good. Hopefully after gpu prices go back to normal I'd be able to play the highend games that I wan't to play. But untill then I'm super happy with what I got.
It is the most sold cpu in Amazon apparently. I bought a pc with this cpu at 425 CAD with 16gb ram and I'm happy about while using tv & monitor that go up to 1080p/60hz.
@@AznKei1 yeah I recently built two PCs for my kids using this CPU, I got 144 Hz adaptive sync monitor to pair with it. It's incredible what integrated graphics can achieve these days, this CPU should have at least that an honorable mention for budget CPUs.
They'd get absolutely stomped. To the point where there is no comparison. The 2200G is 4C/4T and only has 12 (or 16?) PCIE lanes. It's good for putting into your 76 year old mother's FaceBook machine, which is what I did. But that's about where its usefulness ends.
Couldn't disagree more. 2200g to 3400g are more balanced combinations of CPU/GPU. With the latest two generations of APUs, AMD has just increased the GPU bottleneck. 5600g might be a lot better for CPU intensive games, but you must take price into account.
@@fernandomartin4141 Right now, the only listing I can find for a 2200G on NewEgg is for $249.99, so the price is effectively the same for both. To me, a 4% difference is no difference. Maybe that will change by the time the 5x00Gs hit market. Maybe it won't. Maybe it's different in your market, you may have them available to you at a lower price than they are available to me. But I don't think the price is likely to drop on an APU that has been discontinued for several years now.
@@bobprivate8575 That's right, prices are bonkers right now. The 2400/3400g could still be a great deal, but only if you find them at a reasonably price, at least in the second hand market.
@@asyraf_fareed I'm not using it with the dedicated GPU. The reason I got it was more to prolong the usability of my daughter's computer that came with a ryzen 3 5300g. Feels a bit zippier to me but it might just be confirmation bias.
@@hotwheels9754 I'm about to upgrade to 5600G too. I am using i5-6600k. I want APU because if my RX480 die I probably won't buy a new one and get PS5 instead.
It’s too bad that the official release is a little bit away, but it’s nice to see the progress iGPUs have made with entry level gaming. I’ll be eagerly waiting for the APUs that don’t use VEGA tough lol.
not that much progress since the launch of 2200g, not even compared with old A10-A12 cpus, amd has been holding apus performance because no competitor there. a performance of a 1030 is not even great. Even now, with these crazy prices, you can buy old gpus for 80€ at aliex that performs even better , like 750 ti, r9 270, etc.
@@MrDvneil Those R9 270 and 750tis from aliexpress come almost always DOA or dont last that long. They're usually refurbished or miners selling them after years of 24/7/365 use. And GT1030 performance is absolutely amazing for a chip that has to share memory bandwidth and a cooler with a 6/12 processor. If you're even comparing this to A10/A12 performance, you clearly never used those turds in your life.
It will also be interesting to see how APUs scale with DDR5 memory. If the new vega 7 can beat the DDR4 1030, I wonder how a DDR5 vega would stack up to the GDDR5 1030 (yes, not the same type of memory, but still interesting.)
@@MrDvneil I paid 50 euros for a gtx680 a couple months ago. But that's beside the point, some countries have terrible secondhand markets. But true apu's have been pretty meh for some time, the a10-7850k for instance (and even the lower tiers) was decent. The 5600G seems to be decent as well. But like others when amd releases their rdna2 apu's, that will likely have very good performance. I mean look at the ps5/xboxsx, a soc with that kind of performance? WoW. Anyhow, I don't think we'll see a rdna apu for a loong time.
@@MrDvneil "not that much progress since the launch of 2200g" here a comparison (only the differences): 2200G iGPU -8CU -512SP -1.12GHz -GCN 5.0 -1.15 TFLOPS (FP32) -3x Display Support -14nm (Global Foundries) -2MB (4x 512kB) (L2 Cache) -4MB (L3 Cache) vs 5600G [5700G] +7CU [8CU] +448SP [512SP] +1.90GHz [2.00GHZ] +GCN 5.1 +1.70 TFLOPS [2.05 TFLOPS] (FP32) +4x Display Support +7nm (TSMC) +3MB (6x 512kB) [4MB (8x 512kB)] (L2 Cache) +16MB (L3 Cache) I'd say it makes a lot of difference if you compare those stats. That makes the difference between 1080p and 720p gaming. If you want a *huge* performance jump from the 2200G you should wait for the next gen or the gen after (6700 or 7700G the one that supports DDR5 clock speeds that are high enough to make a big difference to the highest DDR4 speeds). Also, they'll likely have more cache (3d stacked cache will come). But to say that there hasn't been much progress is just wrong. A 59% clock increase alone without considering the other stats is already a lot of progress imo. For those who wanna compare the 2200G directly to the 5700G: AMD has always released 2 Ryzen APUs at the same time. That's why you should compare the 5700G rather to the 2400G. I just put in the stats so all who read this are definitely aware that AMD doesn't copy paste the same iGPU into both APUs.
Very inconclusive conclusion...I bought the ryzen 5 5600g and I am very happy with all it's performance so far. Whoever decides to buy a GPU alone in today's market is either too rich or does not know the existence of this processor. Thanks AMD!!!
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IGPUs are great to offload apps on secondary monitors, and even to drive said monitors. Being able to play a game without stuttering while playing an youtube video on chrome and having discord there, hell, even streaming with the igpu, it's great. I feel like most people just don't know how they can take advantage of IGPUs.
@@Granhier not always. i had a friend who ran a 2200g and did this so he could screen share in VR or run youtube videos without reducing the performance of his rx 580 (that he sloted in later)
@@Granhier No, the dGPU is just assumed as the default, so basically everything goes to it, but you can still utilize the integrated GPU specifically if you want.
Recently bought this as an upgrade for my Athlon 3000G set, currently the price's down to like 150 bucks on my land, but got mine used for 49 bucks cheaper. Still a very solid performers, and even with my limited ram kit of 2666 it runs games with the iGPU fairly well. Granted, I played mine on mostly 900p, but still very nice to have. Really, for my kind of use case the 5600G's still winning big.
You might wanna re-review this since the BIOS update improved the APU a lot. Currently my OC settings make the iGPU run at a GTX1050/Ti levels and the more DRAM is allocated the better it seems to work (16vs32Mb). Reminder : i just tested this a few times and not for weeks so it might not be accurate but so far i was actually impressed by how good this iGPU is. Of course running it with my RTX gpu makes a huge difference but if you don't have a dedicated GPU then this R5 5600G is really a good choice imo.
I paid 178 + free shipping for this APU back in early May, it was super worth it. Now the AMD 8GB 5500 XT GPU I just ordered will be here in 2 days, so it's finally time to throw in a dedicated GPU into this budget PC.
I work in Aviation and every time I hear GPU or APU my mind goes to ground power unit and auxiliary power unit. Aviation community loves our damn acronyms.
Buildzoid has had some insane RAM speeds on Ryzen 4000 APUs so there’s definitely a bit of an academic curiosity to be had with memory overclocking on 5000 APUs.
Any chance we can get a rereview of this CPU? This is the only APU worth a damn for the desktop market atm, and it provides excellent vaule at it's current cost. I've built serveral of this things and they are great for a ultra budget build.
How does it compare to the 3200G and 3400G? I've seen 3400G's for around $180, and I'm wondering if it's better to get one of those and put the difference towards something else
I was missing those on the benchmark charts as well, I suspect there’s not a lot of difference, with the 3400G having more CUs but a markedly lower frequency (then, of course, comparing OC vs OC would also be interesting)
@@kasimirdenhertog3516 3400G is 12nm so its basicly 2nd generation, also you cant compare the CUs because on 3400g they are 12nm, but 5600G Vega CUs are 7nm
@@lukamitic6832 the CUs in the 3400G are 14nm (only the CPU part was shrunk to 12nm). The fact they shrunk the CUs to 7nm means they can run them at a higher frequency, as I mentioned. But they are still Vega CUs and there are fewer in the 5600G. That's why the 3400G maintains a lead in processing power, it would be interesting to see how it compares in real-world scenarios.
Fine, I’ll do it. Upgrading from 2200G to 5600G in a Chopin B450 build. The 3400G was too little of a bump and the 4600G peaked my interest, but not enough to seek one out. Just ordered today on sale at $210 USD. Not bad.
Look up the channel "ETA Prime", he's done a lot of reviews of small formfactor builds recently, using these OEM only, high end Ryzen 5/7 APUS...4750G, 5700G, etc. As shown here, they work OK for gaming, and are great for running emulators.
I'm in the same boat as Jan Hirsch. I originally wanted to get the Zen 2 APU but then saw the improvement with Zen 3 in games especially and since I'm looking at a NUC-type barebone with AM4, it would be the definite top-end to get the Zen 3 APU instead. This test really was a letdown because it looks like the delta between CPU and APU didn't shrink between generations. I really would have liked to see a test focus on the doubled size of the L3 cache for the Zen 3 APU compare to the previous generation. I don't understand how it did not have any impact.
APU memory deep dive, Yes please! APU benchmark charts would be incredibly helpful to many. There are RX560D 2G available pulled from pre-builts for sale on OfferUp regularly in my area for non scalper prices, I could see some folks thinking it would be just as good as an APU. Your channel is a gift of clarity to consumers, thanks for all you do for us! Looking forward to fan testing 🤓👍 I bought some Noctua Redux and I swear that's there's more then a color difference for same spec (minus sound/voltage attachment) BTW still using an RX570 8g, this was the generation I was waiting for, but alas my GPU fund of loose change, B-Day, Christmas, and Father's Day gift cards weren't enough.
2:35 A little info: In the UK it's pretty easy to find AMD CPUs all the way up to the 5950X from retailers without needing alerts. Intel's supply of 10X00K parts is a little more spotty. 10900K in particular is out of stock in multiple places with next shipments being beginning of july. In short, don't pay for scalped in the UK either.
But, can we also just take a minute to appreciate how the iGPU in the 5600G has to use shared DDR4 with the system, while the 1030 it matches uses its own dedicated DDR5.
PC building is on life support at the moment. I am happy to see GN keeping the flames alive but I and the few other gamers I know personally are all moving on from PCs due to the crypto craze. I put Mint on my old laptop and remembered just how wasteful we have become. I am done with the chase.
Up until recently my “daily driver” was a Dell Latitude D620 running Windows 7. I used it for all my web browsing and typing that ram pretty swift with an SSD. I do have a PC I built myself that was occasionally used for gaming every once in awhile but otherwise just sat off.
Worth noting, with an APU, they partner well with a 1440p monitor. They have more than enough power for a smooth 1440p desktop experience, but not enough for 1080p 60fps on newer games...but more than enough 720p gaming. Which integer scales cleanly and looks fine on a 1440p display, but not a 1080p display.
but hey the performance delta between a 5600X to the 5600G is a lot particularly calling out the F1 2020 GN benchmark segment here, around 40 FPS more on the 1% Low talking about quite the gap between them in possibly lots of well built driving sims so the verdict for getting the 5600X way back then on launch for you, it will do more joy of performance down the line, now yes for the Graphics Card... 🐧
Why? You got significantly better performance. If you wanted something cheaper you couldve just gone intel with a 10600/11600 k or non k, or a 10400 or 11400. Instead you got the fastest 6 core on the market. Thing wrong with that and it will last you longer. Enjoy your 5600X, its an excellent performer
@@baysidejr Zen 3 CPU wise is better because it doesn't have 8 lazily glued together CPU cores vs Zen 2. I watched the 5700G in Yuzu and RPCS3 emulator and it's a beast and very smooth, would be pretty nice comparing it against the Core i7-10700K.
Around 6:10 you said "don't buy a DDR5 1030", think that should be "dont buy the DDR4 one". Also GT 710 isn't even as powerful as the iGPU in the i3-10100
Come on man. It took them this lomg to finally deliver stable drivers for Vega. Might be lucky to have it run on APU WITH battery power and use a card when power plugged in. max performance with card, max battery with APU.
It's called AMD CrossFire. Nvidia has a similar system if you use two Nvidia dGPUs. But AMD makes both iGPUs and dGPUs that can sync together. Intel is planning to do something similar when they get their own dGPU business up and running.
I use an 8700k in a dedicated streaming pc ( with no gpu) and I would like to know how the 5600g would fare in comparison in streaming workloads and power usage.
Would be so cool if AMD released a cut-down CPU from 6 cores down to 4 for example but with more GPU computing units in the place of those 2 CPU cores. That way it could really be a competitive IGPU vs budget CPU/GPU combos.
Loved the review but I think there may be some value in showing some low end cards above the 5600G (1660 super, 2060, etc.) to see how much of a difference there is between a "proper" gpu and this. Just a thought, good review!
We do have the 3080 in there for half the tests to show the CPU differences. You could also look at our GPU benchmarks for the GT 1030 and get a percentage delta between that and higher-end GPUs to calculate the difference. Noted, though.
I doubt anyone else will do it, let alone to the quality of Gamers Nexus, so yes for those people who actually are going to buy this APU and for my curiosity, please make a video showing how RAM effects the APU.
The 1030 may not be powerful enough for modern aaa gaming but it makes me as happy as my waaaay more expensive rtx card. Amazing tiny card for its price. perfect if paired with an old office pc to introduce kids to pcs hobby.
I traded in my old 2600 + €40 for a second-hand 5600G last year (2023), which cost €139.90 at the time here in Portugal. I think I got an excellent deal and it goes perfectly with my 6650XT, which I found on sale for 229€ when the 7600 came out.
The 5600G is underrated. Right now it sells for 229€ here in Germany, whereas a 5600X sells for 259€. That would make a very ok stopgap solution for an above-entry-level gaming PC.
Please revisit. It's very much DIY now. This CPU feels like it hit the right spot at the right time, and didn't rip people off but I'd love to see an actual re-review!
Lol it quite funny... I saw many ppl saying that.. even thou in real life i3 or r3 both are bad after sometime bcz cpu get full fast and start lagging... And mostly you are going to buy lower -mid end GPU which performs equally on all lol...
Userbenchmark is a very reliable™ source for informed™ consumers. Do you mean to imply that UBM is wrong in saying that an i5-8400 is faster than a threadripper 3990X? Preposterous, obviously the $180 CPU from three generations ago is faster.
@@danegrun7416 lol thats 2kliksphilip or maybe 1klikphilip. He doesnt do hardware on 3 but tbh yeah he was explaining it the best meme way possible lmao
Not really powerful enough for most of these. We can rerun it in the future. Normally we would include it, but it's probably not being considered as an alternative and has been habitually out of stock, so we figure it's basically dead. We'll rerun when we have time and it makes sense, likely closer to launch.
@@GamersNexus Makes sense. CPU performance on those ZEN+ APUs really is way too low to feature in most of these charts. I was mostly curious about the difference in iGPU performance. I'm looking forward to the possible follow-up.
@@GamersNexus from other tests, igpu are really dependant on memory speed, there is like 30-40% difference from 3200 cl 13 to 4200mhz cl 18, can reach the performance of a 1050 ti sometimes. maybe testing some scaling would be good to show.
Im planning on building a internet cafe for low games, this apu will be a perfect fit for the build. Thanks steve for the insight. Keep up the good work as always. Love from indonesia
I heard on Intel systems that Premiere does acceleration using the iGPU of Intel machines even if you have a discrete GPU. Could you compare performance of this CPU with a comparable Intel CPU paired the same GPU.
Reminder: Don't buy the GT 1030 DDR4 model if you buy one at all. Only the GDDR5 model.
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Would it be possible if you can test the 5700g with blender or unreal? Im hoping to use it for my work if its worth upgrading from my 2400g
FYI you said don’t buy the DDR5 version in the video.
thanks for the subtitles
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...and now we need Ryzen 5 5600G overclocked review, with memory/iGPU/cores OC.
doesn't look like a complete review without OC.
I'd be interested to see how memory speed and timings scale on APUs compared to CPU+dedicated.
Thanks for the comment! If enough people are interested in this, we can run it through!
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@@GamersNexus yep i keep hearing about this being a thing but have not actually seen it proven to the level you are able to. Got a 5600x and a rx 6800, would not even consider an apu and i'm still interested
@@GamersNexus definitely!
Yes
Forsure do a dedicated memory overclocking special with this chip. Its one of the biggest selling points of these for the enthusiast market. Theres a good minority of memory overclocking diehards who will love tinkering with these and will want to know exactly how they compare to the 4000 series APUs.
Ah yes, comparing this new APU with their previous would be amazing since they didn't change the GPU inside and barely increase the performance of the CPU (Increase to base clock, boost clock and L3 Cache).
@@bobobobo1693 cpu performance is increased as is zen 3 from zen 2
@@bobobobo1693 Uh... Zen 2 to Zen 3 was a decent enough performance increase. The 5600G has half the cache of the 3600, yet matches or beats it by a little in most cases.
Buildzoid loved his 4750g. Can’t wait to see how far he pushed infinity fabric on these cpus and speed and timings
@@ironmantooltime never said it didn't increased, I said it increased marginally, 0.2Mhz to the boost and base with an extra 8mb in L3. Watch ETA prime video, his benchmark aren't the best I'll admit, with games all over and different ram but it'll give you an idea.
This CPU aged really well. In most places I've checked recently, its 20-30% cheaper than 5600X. That is a significant price reduction for not that super significant performance loss. The iGPU is a good thing to have even if you never use it as a primary video device, if you ever need to troubleshoot a PC, or if your GPU breaks or anything else, iGPU is a lifesaver. It doesn't happen every day of course, but its a very, very good thing to have. Overall, it's a very, very good CPU right now, especially for end-of-the-road cpu for AM4 boards. Pair it with like 6650XT or 6700Xt and you'll have basically end of life machine with very decent performance for the next couple of years, at least. This CPU is in that weird category where it's not the absolute best, but it's best value for money, and it can't really be upgraded any further, so you can easily buy it now and avoid buyer's regret later, since nothing will really beat these CPU's in that specification anymore.
Perfect description.
100% true in 2023. Prince is insanely good right now. mobo price too.
A bit late here, but do you know of a way to turn off your dedicated GPU while using this and turn back on when you want to use it for demanding games? Trying to limit my power usage and noise levels here, thanks
@@Chris3s I mean, just go to your GPU's control panel. Pretty sure you can set app's to use iGPU or dGPU there, at least in Nvidia panel you can.
@@fringetheory1162 the GPU is still on though, was wondering if it can be turned off without unplugging it
Finally, sensible CS:GO testing, 1080p Medium settings is pretty representative of what many users use, maybe even a little higher than the average regular player's settings.
Yeah, could always go lower in CS. It'd be awesome if Valve published data on how many people use each settings configuration!
1080p low with my 3200G and dual channel, and it goes like 80+ FPS in classics maps like Dust 2, Mirage, etc
@@GamersNexus
Most people play with a resolution below 1080p and most settings set to low. 1024x768, 1280x960, 1440x1080p. Stretched to 16:9. Makes models wider.
I feel that a casual player would play at around 1080p medium-high. Which most people will probably be more casual then competitive. Most competitive players will probably play with resolutions lower than 1080p and closer to around 720p, with mainly low settings with a mix of a few high settings here and there, like shadows or shaders on high with everything else on low. Obviously there are some exceptions, like ropz. From what I’ve seen a lot of pros play on 1280x960 with low settings and higher shaders, shadows and anti aliasing. I might be wrong though.
@@-eMpTy- Most pros or hardcore players do yes. But the joke here is you can go find out what people are using, and the actual majority use 1080p low. Now if you take the player base and divide it based on total play time, the ones with more time played would track well with what you said.
Ooh, I've been waiting for you guys to cover this one.
Thanks!
When you said ‘don’t buy a DDR5 1030, you meant don’t buy the DDR4 1030, right?
Thanks. Said it correctly in two places and misspoke in that place. Much appreciated for catching.
wouldn't be surprised if this will be a thing in the future
@@TuskForce it exists, the ddr4 1030
ddr3 gt1030 ?
@@darilight PC-133 GTX 1070?
I was able to pull the 5700G from HP. A huge monster compaired to my 6700K.....Yes, it is expensive for the whole computer, but wow.
@NightBladeDKwasnt it 550 for the 5300g and rx 5500? 5700g was another $100 if im remembering correctly
@@bobnorman3094 $550 is right, at least mine was this price.
@@will3641 damn, what gpu did it come with?
@@bobnorman3094 just the APU build in Vega. It performed ok in the HP with single channel RAM, but once I pull it out and put it in a B550 MB + dual channel RAM, and a bit OC (first time OC Zen CPU), it is a true monster.
I did the same. $582 out the door from Office Depot. I just dropped in 2X8 GB RAM, did a clean OS install and it runs great. (I don't use it as a gaming rig, just to be clear). That HP BIOS is a tragedy, though.
Please do a follow up with overclocking results including CPU+iGPU and memory. FCLK seems to go pretty high on these :)
I second this, very interested at the all OC results in gaming
Thirded! Water cooled and/or extreme cooling would be fun.
Hardcore memory tuning would be interesting
The IGPU goes upto 2300mhz at 1250 mv
I second this as well. I’m very interested in overclocking the 5600G.
This was very informative. Given the situation of the GPU market in Australia, even budget cards like the 1650 Super, 1660ti and RX 6600 XT are $200-$400 above their RRP so the 5600G is a very welcome addition to the PC market. I was planning on building a budget system by year's end, but I guess I'll just make do with a 5600G until GPU prices go down. Great video as always Steve.
Memory overclocking should be quite interesting in this APU, since it's monolithic and the memory controller is on 7nm unlike regular Ryzens and thus allow for much higher 1:1 ratio frequencies.
*6:11 quick correction: don't buy the ddr4 GT1030. Get GDDR5 if you want a GT1030.
Thanks. Said it correctly in two places and misspoke in that place. Much appreciated for catching.
He's fishing us.
.. But don't buy a gt1030!
for RTS/TBS junkies the igpu is perfectly acceptable.
What's tbs
@@exod4 Turn-based strategy, so like Civilization series games.
Yea. Civ 6 using the strategy map is fine at 4k on my 2200G.
racing games is also fine with iGPU if it can run 60fps at 1080p that means the thing already surpasses PS4
@@yasunakaikumi yep, racing games.
basically, you can have a lot fun with the APU.
If you have a time machine what meaning does "later" still have?
It's kind of hard to explain because you end up getting into time loops, and I already had to deal with one of those earlier tomorrow.
@@devindykstra You wouldn't believe the time traffic I ran into on the way to work next week when I got there today.
@@GamersNexus In your flying car,obviously.
I vaguely remember the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy mentioning that when time travel was invented, languages had to implement new verb conjugations because the old ones became useless.
This looks like it's going to have a massive effect on the GPU shortage for e-sports gamers and other low budget builds, while still providing a CPU that's more than fast enough to feed literally any dedicated GPU on the market once one can get their hands on such a mythical creature. Also Bravo Steve, you're the first reviewer to get this product in my feed. Thanks Steve! Back to you!
Its not coming out for retail launch for 2 months, and has worse CPU performance than the 5600x. Its DOA for a placeholder GPU. Also by the time it launches we will have Alder lake with Intels newest Xe IGP that performs the same or better.
@@__aceofspades I don't think it's DOA at all if you can't buy a GPU. If Intel's version is better (and at a better cost), then I'd agree, but currently we don't know that.
@@__aceofspades Isn't Alder Lake still 5 months away?
Have Intels integrated graphics ever kept up with AMD since they introduced their APUs?
APUs will be insane when they start using RDNA cores, with DDR5 RAM and a huge L3 cache, for cheap "gaming" computers
I actually wonder if that was the real show when amd was showing off the stacked l3 cache. Because when I looked it up, besides a slight reduction in clock, the big difference between the 5600x and 5600g is that the g model has half the l3 cache. And is probably the reason it is performing closer the 3600 as a standalone cpu.
And even better results when they use HBM-3 memory ! Than we can expect graphics power around an RX590 !!!
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 HBM3 would be too expensive for an APU unless it was made as a "game console" type computer, like those chinese ones
It would be interesting to see a 5600G vs 5700G comparison to see how much a difference make the extra gpu core and slightly higher clock speed.
Probably not enough to justify the price difference
@@borgejoh It's exactly that. Cost 60% more for 5% performance
The Ryzen5700 also supports pcie4, and higher memspeed, Which also make it faster, but pricewise.... It's hard if you will later upgrade to dedicated fly, you might favor the pcie4
@@MrKOenigma depends on your board, I put this on an ASRock A320M board and as far as I am aware it only supports PCIe 3, so spending another $50+ would probably be a waste and is better put towards an AM5 system in a couple of years.
I recently purchased a custom built system for $500.00 with this processor. All components the builder chose to use were of surprisingly high quality! All the RGB fans and bling a person could ask for for about a third of what others are selling similar systems for! First thing I did was benchmark the system, I was very impressed with the results! I really can't see anyone being disappointed with this processor for it's price.
Thanks Steve!
Back to you Steve!
You can literally see it
@@czbrat You can litterally see Steve back to you, with the new 3080 Tie!
Well we know one thing, Dell didn't give it to them.
Honestly the fact that you can play basically every game on the market at 1080p low on an Apu is just so damn interesting to me. When I built my first pc I had no money, so when I was shopping around for a gpu, I was looking at a 730/745, as they were still pretty cheap back in the day. I ended up with a 1050ti that a friend gave to me, but I lived on a 1030 for about a year, and at the time it was a pretty decent gamer. Integrated graphics have gotten so good in only 5 years since then. Crazy stuff :D
Just built a PC using 5600G. And it's pretty good. Hopefully after gpu prices go back to normal I'd be able to play the highend games that I wan't to play. But untill then I'm super happy with what I got.
Definitely great for an all-purpose system.
oh yeah - showing the stuff on screen at 3:50 while talking through it made it incredibly easy to follow.
Nice one.
AMD will never ever let Vega Graphics die will they?
Big reveal! Vega is called....
Vega
Vega is very power efficient, even if it was a flop haha. It makes sense for APUs and the results against Intel HD graphics show it.
@@GamersNexus aah i can just see that rainbow coming from your hands when saying vega
@@RafitoOoO vega56 was fantastic at the end of its life. In Germany the sapphire vega56 got dumped for 220€ in masses.
It's only running at DDR 4 speed and not 5 or 6 yet .. also some people run Zen 3 at 4000Mhz or more , so a lot yet to be said.
Finally a reliable review that's not using obscenely expensive 4000+mhz RAM kits.
I thought 4000mhz doesn't provide much performance improvement, as 3600 mhz runs insync with the CPU
Such as?
@@PMARC14 That's true for CPU, but the iGPU greatly benefits from fast RAM speeds.
@@PMARC14 having anything above 3600mhz is just a way to flex at this point, on the same level as having SLI.
Dosent make a massive difference.
5600G is a real G
Yeah for sure
Ain't nothin but a 5600G-thang baby
@@GamersNexus 😂
@@GamersNexus amd’s prices are still crazy
@@spaghettisauce445
come on man
Your getting a cpu and a good gpu under $500.
What else you expect? 😂😂😂😂😂
How come this CPU didn't make it in the 2022 CPU round up? This CPU is currently going for $130 or less!
Yeah it's dirt cheap right now, arguably one of the best for ultra budget builds
@@leiziru9642 can't wait for Ryzen 4 Apu's with RDNA 3, 12 CU graphics going for around this price one day. That will be the undisputed Budget King.
It is the most sold cpu in Amazon apparently. I bought a pc with this cpu at 425 CAD with 16gb ram and I'm happy about while using tv & monitor that go up to 1080p/60hz.
@@AznKei1 yeah I recently built two PCs for my kids using this CPU, I got 144 Hz adaptive sync monitor to pair with it. It's incredible what integrated graphics can achieve these days, this CPU should have at least that an honorable mention for budget CPUs.
@@juno1597 true, though the 5700G is only another $50, but the 5600G is good enough, especially compared to the old 2200G.
Can't afford latest hardware but still interested in your reviews, find it interesting and detailed. Keep up the good work 😃
A comparison with the 2200G and 3200G would be very welcome.
They'd get absolutely stomped. To the point where there is no comparison. The 2200G is 4C/4T and only has 12 (or 16?) PCIE lanes. It's good for putting into your 76 year old mother's FaceBook machine, which is what I did. But that's about where its usefulness ends.
Couldn't disagree more. 2200g to 3400g are more balanced combinations of CPU/GPU. With the latest two generations of APUs, AMD has just increased the GPU bottleneck. 5600g might be a lot better for CPU intensive games, but you must take price into account.
@@fernandomartin4141 Right now, the only listing I can find for a 2200G on NewEgg is for $249.99, so the price is effectively the same for both. To me, a 4% difference is no difference. Maybe that will change by the time the 5x00Gs hit market. Maybe it won't. Maybe it's different in your market, you may have them available to you at a lower price than they are available to me.
But I don't think the price is likely to drop on an APU that has been discontinued for several years now.
@@bobprivate8575 That's right, prices are bonkers right now. The 2400/3400g could still be a great deal, but only if you find them at a reasonably price, at least in the second hand market.
Just bought this from microcenter for $120 and I'm not complaining.
How was it? U using with dedicated gpu?
@@asyraf_fareed I'm not using it with the dedicated GPU. The reason I got it was more to prolong the usability of my daughter's computer that came with a ryzen 3 5300g. Feels a bit zippier to me but it might just be confirmation bias.
I just did the same for the same price. Right now running it with a 1660 super. Will upgrade my GPU down the line.
Just did the same thing and I’m using a 1070
I’m upgrading my i5-6500 that I overclocked
@@hotwheels9754 I'm about to upgrade to 5600G too. I am using i5-6600k. I want APU because if my RX480 die I probably won't buy a new one and get PS5 instead.
Quite interesting to see an IGP so close to a GT 1030. It will be even more interesting to see what FSR can do.
It’s too bad that the official release is a little bit away, but it’s nice to see the progress iGPUs have made with entry level gaming. I’ll be eagerly waiting for the APUs that don’t use VEGA tough lol.
not that much progress since the launch of 2200g, not even compared with old A10-A12 cpus, amd has been holding apus performance because no competitor there.
a performance of a 1030 is not even great. Even now, with these crazy prices, you can buy old gpus for 80€ at aliex that performs even better , like 750 ti, r9 270, etc.
@@MrDvneil Those R9 270 and 750tis from aliexpress come almost always DOA or dont last that long. They're usually refurbished or miners selling them after years of 24/7/365 use.
And GT1030 performance is absolutely amazing for a chip that has to share memory bandwidth and a cooler with a 6/12 processor. If you're even comparing this to A10/A12 performance, you clearly never used those turds in your life.
It will also be interesting to see how APUs scale with DDR5 memory. If the new vega 7 can beat the DDR4 1030, I wonder how a DDR5 vega would stack up to the GDDR5 1030 (yes, not the same type of memory, but still interesting.)
@@MrDvneil I paid 50 euros for a gtx680 a couple months ago. But that's beside the point, some countries have terrible secondhand markets. But true apu's have been pretty meh for some time, the a10-7850k for instance (and even the lower tiers) was decent. The 5600G seems to be decent as well. But like others when amd releases their rdna2 apu's, that will likely have very good performance. I mean look at the ps5/xboxsx, a soc with that kind of performance? WoW. Anyhow, I don't think we'll see a rdna apu for a loong time.
@@MrDvneil "not that much progress since the launch of 2200g"
here a comparison (only the differences):
2200G iGPU
-8CU
-512SP
-1.12GHz
-GCN 5.0
-1.15 TFLOPS (FP32)
-3x Display Support
-14nm (Global Foundries)
-2MB (4x 512kB) (L2 Cache)
-4MB (L3 Cache)
vs
5600G [5700G]
+7CU [8CU]
+448SP [512SP]
+1.90GHz [2.00GHZ]
+GCN 5.1
+1.70 TFLOPS [2.05 TFLOPS] (FP32)
+4x Display Support
+7nm (TSMC)
+3MB (6x 512kB) [4MB (8x 512kB)] (L2 Cache)
+16MB (L3 Cache)
I'd say it makes a lot of difference if you compare those stats.
That makes the difference between 1080p and 720p gaming.
If you want a *huge* performance jump from the 2200G you should wait for the next gen or the gen after (6700 or 7700G the one that supports DDR5 clock speeds that are high enough to make a big difference to the highest DDR4 speeds). Also, they'll likely have more cache (3d stacked cache will come).
But to say that there hasn't been much progress is just wrong.
A 59% clock increase alone without considering the other stats is already a lot of progress imo.
For those who wanna compare the 2200G directly to the 5700G: AMD has always released 2 Ryzen APUs at the same time. That's why you should compare the 5700G rather to the 2400G. I just put in the stats so all who read this are definitely aware that AMD doesn't copy paste the same iGPU into both APUs.
Very inconclusive conclusion...I bought the ryzen 5 5600g and I am very happy with all it's performance so far. Whoever decides to buy a GPU alone in today's market is either too rich or does not know the existence of this processor. Thanks AMD!!!
IGPUs are great to offload apps on secondary monitors, and even to drive said monitors. Being able to play a game without stuttering while playing an youtube video on chrome and having discord there, hell, even streaming with the igpu, it's great.
I feel like most people just don't know how they can take advantage of IGPUs.
Aren't IGPUs disabled when a dedicated one is present?
@@Granhier not always. i had a friend who ran a 2200g and did this so he could screen share in VR or run youtube videos without reducing the performance of his rx 580 (that he sloted in later)
its also nice for when your gpu has limited hdmi ports of lacks legacy ports your monitors use
@@Granhier Default settings may vary, but you have always been able to turn the iGpu on if you want.
@@Granhier No, the dGPU is just assumed as the default, so basically everything goes to it, but you can still utilize the integrated GPU specifically if you want.
Recently bought this as an upgrade for my Athlon 3000G set, currently the price's down to like 150 bucks on my land, but got mine used for 49 bucks cheaper. Still a very solid performers, and even with my limited ram kit of 2666 it runs games with the iGPU fairly well. Granted, I played mine on mostly 900p, but still very nice to have. Really, for my kind of use case the 5600G's still winning big.
You might wanna re-review this since the BIOS update improved the APU a lot.
Currently my OC settings make the iGPU run at a GTX1050/Ti levels and the more DRAM is allocated the better it seems to work (16vs32Mb).
Reminder : i just tested this a few times and not for weeks so it might not be accurate but so far i was actually impressed by how good this iGPU is.
Of course running it with my RTX gpu makes a huge difference but if you don't have a dedicated GPU then this R5 5600G is really a good choice imo.
What's your overclock settings and what ram
@@johntiles if i remember correctly i set the iGPU to 2300Mhz and used DDR4@3600Mhz with CL16 on a 16Gb and DDR4@3200Mhz with CL18 on a 32Gb system.
Ok thanks I'm getting it for pubg
Finally you guys got one. nice.
Some smaller channels got one a month or so ago, was wondering when you'd finally get one.
I was hoping for a direct 5600X to 5600G CPU performance comparison, and how close the latter can get to the former with manual overclocking.
That unreal5 intro is really good. Good work.
I paid 178 + free shipping for this APU back in early May, it was super worth it. Now the AMD 8GB 5500 XT GPU I just ordered will be here in 2 days, so it's finally time to throw in a dedicated GPU into this budget PC.
You're the guy i was looking for...
Nice vids💙
Definitely good for those trying to build their first computer!
I work in Aviation and every time I hear GPU or APU my mind goes to ground power unit and auxiliary power unit. Aviation community loves our damn acronyms.
Auxiliary power unit is a thing to in military hardware side
Buildzoid has had some insane RAM speeds on Ryzen 4000 APUs so there’s definitely a bit of an academic curiosity to be had with memory overclocking on 5000 APUs.
just picked one of these up to upgrade my son's PC. Got is for $220 plus $20 off with mobo. pretty good deal imo with the GPU scarcity.
"5:25 A lone and wild Intel chip watches from the woods."
"here you can see a wild i3-10100 in its natural habitat"
Any chance we can get a rereview of this CPU? This is the only APU worth a damn for the desktop market atm, and it provides excellent vaule at it's current cost. I've built serveral of this things and they are great for a ultra budget build.
How does it compare to the 3200G and 3400G? I've seen 3400G's for around $180, and I'm wondering if it's better to get one of those and put the difference towards something else
I was missing those on the benchmark charts as well, I suspect there’s not a lot of difference, with the 3400G having more CUs but a markedly lower frequency (then, of course, comparing OC vs OC would also be interesting)
@@kasimirdenhertog3516 3400G is 12nm so its basicly 2nd generation, also you cant compare the CUs because on 3400g they are 12nm, but 5600G Vega CUs are 7nm
For gaming 3400G is a little weaker than 5600G but with $180 prize it has a much better value.
@@lukamitic6832 yes but the 3400g has a vega 11 and the 5600g has a vega 7, it should've been a comparison in this video
@@lukamitic6832 the CUs in the 3400G are 14nm (only the CPU part was shrunk to 12nm). The fact they shrunk the CUs to 7nm means they can run them at a higher frequency, as I mentioned. But they are still Vega CUs and there are fewer in the 5600G. That's why the 3400G maintains a lead in processing power, it would be interesting to see how it compares in real-world scenarios.
Fine, I’ll do it. Upgrading from 2200G to 5600G in a Chopin B450 build. The 3400G was too little of a bump and the 4600G peaked my interest, but not enough to seek one out. Just ordered today on sale at $210 USD. Not bad.
it would have been nice to see the previous generations of AMD APU's 3200G/3400G on the chart.
Yeah and also the ryzen 5 4650g , as I think these are the most used apus recently
Very interesting comparisons here! It was a great call to include the cheap CPU/GPU combo with the APUs.
Pretty great option these days. You can always throw in a GPU to later when they're actually available.
Does your system utilize both the integrated graphics and the discreet GPU if you slap one on? Or does it just ignore the integreated graphics?
@@MM-vs2et
Ignores
@@joshuadelaughter I see. Thanks.
Very good review. As always a very good job with the measuring.. not just benchmark graphs. The IGP gaming power efficiency is excellent.
This would make sick NUC-like AMD mini-pc to hook up to the living room TV.
Look up the channel "ETA Prime", he's done a lot of reviews of small formfactor builds recently, using these OEM only, high end Ryzen 5/7 APUS...4750G, 5700G, etc. As shown here, they work OK for gaming, and are great for running emulators.
the SteamPal will probably have that functionality
LN2 livestream when? Gotta beat Buildzoid's Firestrike APU score!
could you do a comparision with the 4650g? would be interesting to see the difference between two generations
Agreed. Can't decide if I should go for the 4650g now or wait for the 5600g.
@@hirschj i just bought the 4650g. just want to know what im missing out on
I'm in the same boat as Jan Hirsch. I originally wanted to get the Zen 2 APU but then saw the improvement with Zen 3 in games especially and since I'm looking at a NUC-type barebone with AM4, it would be the definite top-end to get the Zen 3 APU instead.
This test really was a letdown because it looks like the delta between CPU and APU didn't shrink between generations. I really would have liked to see a test focus on the doubled size of the L3 cache for the Zen 3 APU compare to the previous generation. I don't understand how it did not have any impact.
same here
APU memory deep dive, Yes please! APU benchmark charts would be incredibly helpful to many.
There are RX560D 2G available pulled from pre-builts for sale on OfferUp regularly in my area for non scalper prices, I could see some folks thinking it would be just as good as an APU. Your channel is a gift of clarity to consumers, thanks for all you do for us!
Looking forward to fan testing 🤓👍 I bought some Noctua Redux and I swear that's there's more then a color difference for same spec (minus sound/voltage attachment)
BTW still using an RX570 8g, this was the generation I was waiting for, but alas my GPU fund of loose change, B-Day, Christmas, and Father's Day gift cards weren't enough.
LN2 int video overclocking is coming? =)
That'd be fun!
@@GamersNexus Do it... for science!
Not much fun if the APU package cannot suck more than 88 Watts through the socket 😢
@@GamersNexus Let's break down a bit of world records =)
@@GamersNexus But seriously, I'm waiting video about 5700g
2:35
A little info: In the UK it's pretty easy to find AMD CPUs all the way up to the 5950X from retailers without needing alerts.
Intel's supply of 10X00K parts is a little more spotty. 10900K in particular is out of stock in multiple places with next shipments being beginning of july.
In short, don't pay for scalped in the UK either.
But, can we also just take a minute to appreciate how the iGPU in the 5600G has to use shared DDR4 with the system, while the 1030 it matches uses its own dedicated DDR5.
now im here waiting for the 5700G review... thanks to your videos i choose all the parts of my pc
Compare it to the ryzen 3400g pls steve! 🙏🏼
I agree. Why wasn't 3200G and 3400G on the charts?
and maybe the 4000g series too
I bought this 5600G for $142us and use it in a HTPC. Beast of a APU.
Memory tuning on APUs will be great (OC if possible too)
You have a glow to you today. Must be the salon visit before recording. Whatever works. Great video.
Whoa , the gaming performance is actually decent
18:25 now i would love to see you doing a benchmark of the tesla
PC building is on life support at the moment. I am happy to see GN keeping the flames alive but I and the few other gamers I know personally are all moving on from PCs due to the crypto craze. I put Mint on my old laptop and remembered just how wasteful we have become. I am done with the chase.
Up until recently my “daily driver” was a Dell Latitude D620 running Windows 7. I used it for all my web browsing and typing that ram pretty swift with an SSD. I do have a PC I built myself that was occasionally used for gaming every once in awhile but otherwise just sat off.
Worth noting, with an APU, they partner well with a 1440p monitor. They have more than enough power for a smooth 1440p desktop experience, but not enough for 1080p 60fps on newer games...but more than enough 720p gaming. Which integer scales cleanly and looks fine on a 1440p display, but not a 1080p display.
Beve Sturke with the good testing!
Thanks Steve. Very cool.
Got both of my 5600X's on launch day and I'm still waiting for a GPU on the other one...I wish I just waited for this 😅😭
Well, you could buy one of these then sell the 5600X (only after, tho) for near MSRP.
but hey the performance delta between a 5600X to the 5600G is a lot particularly calling out the F1 2020 GN benchmark segment here, around 40 FPS more on the 1% Low
talking about quite the gap between them in possibly lots of well built driving sims
so the verdict for getting the 5600X way back then on launch for you, it will do more joy of performance down the line, now yes for the Graphics Card... 🐧
Why? You got significantly better performance. If you wanted something cheaper you couldve just gone intel with a 10600/11600 k or non k, or a 10400 or 11400. Instead you got the fastest 6 core on the market. Thing wrong with that and it will last you longer. Enjoy your 5600X, its an excellent performer
I would love to see a RAM overclocking session with the APUs - "RAM to the moon!" is a common selling point for them :)
Please do a 5700G APU! It would be greatly appreciated!
I came to say the same.
@@baysidejr Zen 3 CPU wise is better because it doesn't have 8 lazily glued together CPU cores vs Zen 2. I watched the 5700G in Yuzu and RPCS3 emulator and it's a beast and very smooth, would be pretty nice comparing it against the Core i7-10700K.
Love the videos. Keeps me up to date, when friends/family/co workers ask what they should do for there builds.
I would be very interested in memory speed showing advantage with video. That would also include any advantages with overclocking.
I haven't watched this channel for a while. I like the new intro!
Never clicked so fast on a video.
Around 6:10 you said "don't buy a DDR5 1030", think that should be "dont buy the DDR4 one". Also GT 710 isn't even as powerful as the iGPU in the i3-10100
Just a random thought, If i were to have this 5600G and a graphics card, could i designate the APU for streaming while the card to do the game frames?
I think you can, it would be like the dual GPU configuration from laptops.
Come on man. It took them this lomg to finally deliver stable drivers for Vega. Might be lucky to have it run on APU WITH battery power and use a card when power plugged in. max performance with card, max battery with APU.
@@ctjmaughs you can do that already
It's called AMD CrossFire. Nvidia has a similar system if you use two Nvidia dGPUs. But AMD makes both iGPUs and dGPUs that can sync together. Intel is planning to do something similar when they get their own dGPU business up and running.
i play games on gtx1650 and record using obs and choosing 4600H apu
The extra L3 cache on the 5600x really helps
I use an 8700k in a dedicated streaming pc ( with no gpu) and I would like to know how the 5600g would fare in comparison in streaming workloads and power usage.
Would be so cool if AMD released a cut-down CPU from 6 cores down to 4 for example but with more GPU computing units in the place of those 2 CPU cores. That way it could really be a competitive IGPU vs budget CPU/GPU combos.
Loved the review but I think there may be some value in showing some low end cards above the 5600G (1660 super, 2060, etc.) to see how much of a difference there is between a "proper" gpu and this. Just a thought, good review!
We do have the 3080 in there for half the tests to show the CPU differences. You could also look at our GPU benchmarks for the GT 1030 and get a percentage delta between that and higher-end GPUs to calculate the difference. Noted, though.
@@GamersNexus I think it would be useful for those who are able to spend a little more to see if it's worth it.
I wouldn't call either of those cards low end
@@czbrat neither would I tbh, but it's the state of the market. Maybe RX480s and 1050ti's would've worked too, you just can't find those anywhere
@2:19
I see a Ryzen 7 5700G.
Does that means that you are going to do a review of it soon?
That is the most interesting APU from the lineup, specially that it's close to the i7-10700K in price and has 16MB of L3 cache.
That moment when you hear "Radeon seven leads the chart", gasp, realizing a moment later that it was about an IGP :(
I got one of these in an HP 30L about a month ago which so far is the only oem I’ve seen using the processor. Been happy with it so far.
In these dark times, episodes about maximum overclocking budget APUs is more needed than ever
I doubt anyone else will do it, let alone to the quality of Gamers Nexus, so yes for those people who actually are going to buy this APU and for my curiosity, please make a video showing how RAM effects the APU.
The 1030 may not be powerful enough for modern aaa gaming but it makes me as happy as my waaaay more expensive rtx card. Amazing tiny card for its price. perfect if paired with an old office pc to introduce kids to pcs hobby.
I traded in my old 2600 + €40 for a second-hand 5600G last year (2023), which cost €139.90 at the time here in Portugal. I think I got an excellent deal and it goes perfectly with my 6650XT, which I found on sale for 229€ when the 7600 came out.
The 5600G is underrated. Right now it sells for 229€ here in Germany, whereas a 5600X sells for 259€. That would make a very ok stopgap solution for an above-entry-level gaming PC.
Currently it sells for
Please revisit. It's very much DIY now. This CPU feels like it hit the right spot at the right time, and didn't rip people off but I'd love to see an actual re-review!
"Zen 3 is slower than an i3 in gaming! Don't buy it!" - Userbenkmark's takeaway
Userbenchmark...LOL
Lol it quite funny... I saw many ppl saying that.. even thou in real life i3 or r3 both are bad after sometime bcz cpu get full fast and start lagging... And mostly you are going to buy lower -mid end GPU which performs equally on all lol...
Userbenchmark is a very reliable™ source for informed™ consumers. Do you mean to imply that UBM is wrong in saying that an i5-8400 is faster than a threadripper 3990X? Preposterous, obviously the $180 CPU from three generations ago is faster.
Should watch 3kliksphilips video about userbenchmark, it’s hilarious
@@danegrun7416 lol thats 2kliksphilip or maybe 1klikphilip. He doesnt do hardware on 3 but tbh yeah he was explaining it the best meme way possible lmao
Thumbs for minecraft bench. You've got balls to represent a significant portion of population.
Bit disappointed that the 3200g and 3400g aren't present in the comparisons.
Not really powerful enough for most of these. We can rerun it in the future. Normally we would include it, but it's probably not being considered as an alternative and has been habitually out of stock, so we figure it's basically dead. We'll rerun when we have time and it makes sense, likely closer to launch.
@@GamersNexus Makes sense. CPU performance on those ZEN+ APUs really is way too low to feature in most of these charts. I was mostly curious about the difference in iGPU performance.
I'm looking forward to the possible follow-up.
@@GamersNexus from other tests, igpu are really dependant on memory speed, there is like 30-40% difference from 3200 cl 13 to 4200mhz cl 18, can reach the performance of a 1050 ti sometimes. maybe testing some scaling would be good to show.
Im planning on building a internet cafe for low games, this apu will be a perfect fit for the build. Thanks steve for the insight. Keep up the good work as always. Love from indonesia
I heard on Intel systems that Premiere does acceleration using the iGPU of Intel machines even if you have a discrete GPU. Could you compare performance of this CPU with a comparable Intel CPU paired the same GPU.
if you disable onboard graphics in bios it MUST work because it wont get detected.
Really loved this piece. Amazing as always, GN and team.