I bought the Glockstore Tungsten guide rod for my Glock 43 about a month ago. I started getting multiple misfires. Five misfires in ten Glock factory magazines. This is my personal defense gun so constant misfires are a problem. I live right down the road from the Glock factory in Smyrna, Georgia, so I took it to the factory and asked what the problem was. I was told that the Glockstore guide rod was causing the misfires. He also said it might be causing damage to the internal parts of my gun too (I'm not sure about that but that's what the Glock guy told me). The Glock factory replaced by guide rod with a factory guide rod. After putting in the factory guide rod, the gun has fired perfectly ever since. I sent Lenny an email asking him to double check to make sure the guide rods he is selling are not causing misfires. I've not heard anything back. I called them because I returned the guide rod to Glockstore for a refund but the refund was late (due yesterday according to eBay) and the Glockstore guy on the phone said they were "aware of the issue." This conversation was today. I love Lenny and his videos but I thought this was worth mentioning.
the guide rod lenny is talking about here isn't rated for the g43. why would you install a part that isn't rated for your g43 into it? this issue seems to be on your end for not using parts rated for your g43 and not the glockstores end.
Had problems with pulling the trigger with no ammo in it and slide moves back and forth. They have a standard and a low power one that might b the problem. I even went in 2 Glock store and that’s the one they sold me.
That was wonderfully authentic! I'm a big fan of the tungsten guide rod - running in only four of my five Glocks because you don't have one for the 42 yet!. I always appreciate Lenny's videos and consider them helpful and genuine. I know Lenny's making a sale, but its a good sales pitch because I feel like Lenny believes every word he is saying about what he's selling and trust him not to sell me any crap. Rock on Guys!
There are many ways to make a good product even better.The tungsten guide rod is one of the ways to accomplish this.Thanks Lenny for your videos and products....!!!!
Great video presentation. I am glad that this was shared with your customer's and audience due to the fact that there are many out on the web that talk about how there is no benefit, yet show no proof of no benefit to using either the Tungsten or Stainless Steel guide rods. I am glad someone finally showed the proof in the target as there is a difference. I wish more people would provide this type of proof of benefit versus just saying no benefit more metal is more lube and dust, etc. Thanks to the Glock Store I really enjoy your videos.
I switched out all of my Glock factory plastic guide rods after my G-27's rod broke the first time I took it to the range after about 100 rounds through it. The range I shoot at had one in stock and I bought another plastic rod one. I talked with a friend who told me that the Achilles heel on Glocks are the factory guide rods he advised that I go to the Glock Store and switch them to the Tungsten Guide Rods. I replaced all my Glocks, and found an immediate difference. There was a little heavier and solid feel and better control. I tell all my friends and former LEO buddies to replace their plastic guide rods with tungsten.. Best investment for the $$$ and for dependability. I'm a Glock Guy all the way.......
Good stuff, Glock store rocks, great customer service. Shooting in the "kill room" was fun, next time I'm in SD im definitely stopping by for a fun shoot.
While the tungsten guide rod in my GEN 3 G23 does not improve my accuracy, it does allow for less muzzle rise and quicker target re-acqusition. This allows me to get off quicker follow-up shots. As a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) holder, that's exactly what i wanted out of my heavy tungsten guide rod. I have no need for one in my G19.
I put a Tungsten guide rod in my Glock 22. And it malfunctioned lots of times. I learned that Glocks are good and reliable out of the box. Once you start messing with a gun and changing original parts that's what happens, it will malfunction like mine. When I was shooting the slide would not reset back all the way lots of times, probably 3 times out of a whole magazine it would not reset back all the way.
Bought two tungsten guide rods for my g19 gen 5 mos. Both sustained dents and chips after a session at the gun range. I was shooting 147 grain ammo. Hopefully they'll get better and more reliable over time.
OK Lenny, I got it. But, one (?). What is the "spring weight" he used? G26 factory weight is 16lbs. What would be the additional effect if he increased that weight, say to 18lbs.? How would that effect the SHOT and the follow-on RECOIL?
I got one for my G34 Gen. 4. I did not test for accuracy but it seems that holding the nose down by the weight eliminated FTEs by my wife immediately after the switch. One could argue there is a difference in the spring, but either way it is now a better gun.
Do you presume to know everything about Glocks for all who use them? 2 years later, still works fine for us. YMMV Please back up your claim with something better than fertilizer.
Hope He got his stuff shipped to Texas quicker than I'm getting my stuff shipped to Ohio?? Going on 2 weeks and still waiting for my pyramid trigger, Tungsten guide rod and slide plate to get shipped..lol
I just received a tungsten guide rod with 17lb spring from the glock store, installed it and it comes into a small hesitated resistance while moving the slide to the rear manually as the original metal guide rod with 2 open slots would be very smooth. Any thoughts ( G29sf gen3 )
I say “mags” and correct my kids to use that term, but traveling the states I’ve noticed that “clips” is more of a synonym based on your location. They know it’s a magazine but they call it a clip because everyone in that region calls it that. It’s just speaking the local lingo... you’ll hear “clips” from Texans, Virginians, and Louisiana folk... it’s a southern thing I suppose.
While I have no doubt using a heavy guide rod makes a difference (I use stainless), it's obvious that guy took more time shooting with the tungsten rod.
Any true competition shooter will tell you that reducing your recoil spring weight will most effectively tighten up your groups because the slides violent forward motion is reduced and you get less bounce, meaning you stay on target a lot easier. Grip, spring weight, practice are a good place to start. Heavier weight up front just means you have to compensate the fall of the heavier muzzle with greater lift. It’s a balancing act IMO
Lenny, how do I know which spring weight to use in my G21 SF? What do the different color weights do? Also how do I know to use a lower or heavier weight?
So your spring weight needs to be heavy enough to to put the slide back into battery, while overcoming the trigger spring weight. The lower the recoil spring weight, the slower the slide moves forward and has less bounce upon returning to battery. The lower spring weight also leaves the chamber open longer allowing the spent casing to clear the chamber area and gives the mag more time to push up another round. Lower weights have a harder time pushing a round into a dirty or rough ramped chamber. You also need to be concerned about the loads you normally shoot having an effect on the longevity of the moving parts. Lighter spring could mean more wear in a gun shooting heavier loads. 13-11 pound in a G17 shooting 115 grain has the best balance between cycle time, effective load handling, and muzzle bounce. Stock 17 pound is meant to reliably cycle a wide range of ammo. You have a heavier spring for defensive type loads while still barely being able to fully cycle on lighter target loads. Most guys I shoot with use an 11 pound in race guns, while I shoot a 15 pound in my edc and a 13 pound in my 17L. I like the light weight in the longer gun to keep the muzzle from bouncing up and down when I’m trying to get back I target faster. Plus having the slide open longer is a good benefit. Hope that helps you some since Lenny doesn’t give a shit.
I ordered a stainless spring on July 1st today is October 3rd they charge my account for it and I am still yet to see it do not order from the glock store they have many complaints on the better business bureau
So question.. I have a G26 gen4 what is the best rod for the 26 i believe it currently has 18lbs stock rod should I purchase a higher lbs rod I believe the highest is 20
I got a hold of one of these and tested against a gen 3 polymer guide rod, NO difference at all what so ever, not even in the slightest amount just another glock store gimmick, I think these things sell for 80$ on the website as well, don't waste your money! Instead spend the 80 on ammo and train with it! That will improve your grouping. Lenny is a crock riding on glocks success.
Or you could just add more trigger time to your training regiment and learn to control the recoil... Because when your slide cracks, or starts malfunctioning, any glock armorer is going to say, "you modded the guide rod to non-factory spec, we're not replacing your slide."
NY Sledge He said, more specifically "between clips; between 13 round clips" Nevertheless, who gives a fuck whether it's a magazine or a clip, they both serve the same purpose, regardless of mechanics.
This thing doesn't improve accuracy, it decreases muzzle rise making follow-up shots easier. To be honest, if you're rich enough to afford this you may as well fork over even more cash for a guide rod made out of iridium, if you can get it custom made. Iridium is even heavier than tungsten, so the gun should barely move at all.
You produce some awesome content, sir. That being said, a hot chick providing the same information would yield you double the views at the very least. Just food for thought.
so therefore GLOCK PERFECTION is not true.you have to spend more dollars just to improve your glock pistol.why not buy better than glock pistol out of the box like CZ IWI MASADA WALTHER HK?
I have this guide rod; 100% will not go into full battery after the first shot. 10 shots; 9 failure to close full battery. I have the Gen 4 Glock 35. Not saying it's a bad product; just that mine DOES NOT FUNCTION. Can't depend my life on it.
I got the one for my Glock 27 in the 20 Lb. configuration and I can comfortably shoot the largest and hottest .40 cal round without getting thrown on my ass .......
When you put 10 kilos at the end of any handgun it will reduce recoil, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!! Who would have known??? Putting more weight on a carry gun is just stupid. Put it on your race guns, that would make at least sense...
Oh Lenny I'm disappointed brother... this guide rod is garbage... doesn't even fit, and those who got it to fit, complain about misfires and failure to feed
LOL A guide rod is NOT going to improve your accuracy. Is a steel guide rod better than plastic? of course but it is not going to improve your groupings. Morons.
I bought one for my Glock 19 and it really does make the gun jump less. They should make one for the G42. The only bad thing is they were out of the black one, but that's just aesthetic.
Why are these guiderods causing problems. You don’t tell your customers the recommended spring weight to change and not change. It’s All for money🙄 I put factory stings on my skeletized titanium strike and the Titanium plunger and with factory guildrod. It’s flawless. Tungsten? Problem. And Glock knows this. If they tell us what to do th have the guns run flawless. Then more parts would be sold. Not a reputation of having cheap Chinese parts that don’t work 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡
I bought the Glockstore Tungsten guide rod for my Glock 43 about a month ago. I started getting multiple misfires. Five misfires in ten Glock factory magazines. This is my personal defense gun so constant misfires are a problem. I live right down the road from the Glock factory in Smyrna, Georgia, so I took it to the factory and asked what the problem was. I was told that the Glockstore guide rod was causing the misfires. He also said it might be causing damage to the internal parts of my gun too (I'm not sure about that but that's what the Glock guy told me). The Glock factory replaced by guide rod with a factory guide rod. After putting in the factory guide rod, the gun has fired perfectly ever since. I sent Lenny an email asking him to double check to make sure the guide rods he is selling are not causing misfires. I've not heard anything back. I called them because I returned the guide rod to Glockstore for a refund but the refund was late (due yesterday according to eBay) and the Glockstore guy on the phone said they were "aware of the issue." This conversation was today. I love Lenny and his videos but I thought this was worth mentioning.
Interesting. I was about to purchase one for my carry but might just stick to the stock one
the guide rod lenny is talking about here isn't rated for the g43. why would you install a part that isn't rated for your g43 into it? this issue seems to be on your end for not using parts rated for your g43 and not the glockstores end.
@@deltamiArt they make them for the 43
Had problems with pulling the trigger with no ammo in it and slide moves back and forth. They have a standard and a low power one that might b the problem. I even went in 2 Glock store and that’s the one they sold me.
It’s about sales😂
That was wonderfully authentic! I'm a big fan of the tungsten guide rod - running in only four of my five Glocks because you don't have one for the 42 yet!. I always appreciate Lenny's videos and consider them helpful and genuine. I know Lenny's making a sale, but its a good sales pitch because I feel like Lenny believes every word he is saying about what he's selling and trust him not to sell me any crap. Rock on Guys!
I have two of these guide rods and they really do work! Great product and great production!
how many pds should i get ?
There are many ways to make a good product even better.The tungsten guide rod is one of the ways to accomplish this.Thanks Lenny for your videos and products....!!!!
Great video presentation. I am glad that this was shared with your customer's and audience due to the fact that there are many out on the web that talk about how there is no benefit, yet show no proof of no benefit to using either the Tungsten or Stainless Steel guide rods. I am glad someone finally showed the proof in the target as there is a difference. I wish more people would provide this type of proof of benefit versus just saying no benefit more metal is more lube and dust, etc. Thanks to the Glock Store I really enjoy your videos.
I switched out all of my Glock factory plastic guide rods after my G-27's rod broke the first time I took it to the range after about 100 rounds through it. The range I shoot at had one in stock and I bought another plastic rod one. I talked with a friend who told me that the Achilles heel on Glocks are the factory guide rods he advised that I go to the Glock Store and switch them to the Tungsten Guide Rods. I replaced all my Glocks, and found an immediate difference. There was a little heavier and solid feel and better control. I tell all my friends and former LEO buddies to replace their plastic guide rods with tungsten.. Best investment for the $$$ and for dependability. I'm a Glock Guy all the way.......
The new solid gold guide rod is actually the best one. The platinum one is supposed to be for competition only.
Good stuff, Glock store rocks, great customer service. Shooting in the "kill room" was fun, next time I'm in SD im definitely stopping by for a fun shoot.
Clairmont baby!!!!
While the tungsten guide rod in my GEN 3 G23 does not improve my accuracy, it does allow for less muzzle rise and quicker target re-acqusition. This allows me to get off quicker follow-up shots. As a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) holder, that's exactly what i wanted out of my heavy tungsten guide rod. I have no need for one in my G19.
Balderdash. Jason was shooting at a slower rate with the new guide rod.
I put a Tungsten guide rod in my Glock 22. And it malfunctioned lots of times. I learned that Glocks are good and reliable out of the box. Once you start messing with a gun and changing original parts that's what happens, it will malfunction like mine. When I was shooting the slide would not reset back all the way lots of times, probably 3 times out of a whole magazine it would not reset back all the way.
Been waiting 2 weeks for them to even pull the item off their shelf to ship it to me. Will shop thru Midway next time.
Midway is the best.
Bought two tungsten guide rods for my g19 gen 5 mos. Both sustained dents and chips after a session at the gun range. I was shooting 147 grain ammo. Hopefully they'll get better and more reliable over time.
They didn’t I am having that problem right now with my 21.
@@peterv1318 I hear you. Ultimately, I gave up on these. I recommend titanium vs tungsten
@@Momentomori916 thanks I will be replacing it with titanium.
OK Lenny, I got it. But, one (?). What is the "spring weight" he used? G26 factory weight is 16lbs. What would be the additional effect if he increased that weight, say to 18lbs.? How would that effect the SHOT and the follow-on RECOIL?
What was the answer?
I bought one for my 21 and I don’t think it’s real tungsten. It’s scraping up to easy.
Just ordered one of the Tungsten Guide Rod, for my GLOCK 17 off of your E-Bay store let you know how it turn's out Thanks Guys!!
I got one for my G34 Gen. 4. I did not test for accuracy but it seems that holding the nose down by the weight eliminated FTEs by my wife immediately after the switch.
One could argue there is a difference in the spring, but either way it is now a better gun.
Garv G. BS
Do you presume to know everything about Glocks for all who use them?
2 years later, still works fine for us.
YMMV
Please back up your claim with something better than fertilizer.
Hope He got his stuff shipped to Texas quicker than I'm getting my stuff shipped to Ohio?? Going on 2 weeks and still waiting for my pyramid trigger, Tungsten guide rod and slide plate to get shipped..lol
This is interesting. Because I hear about tons of misfires and jams from the tungsten. Hmmm.
The one I bought for my gen 4 21 is scraping up so it’s definitely going to fail in the future.
I have two of these and can confirm that they DO aid in rapid fire accuracy because of the reduced muzzle flip. So there.
I cant wait to get mine, i won it from you guys on the facebook contest !!
I just received a tungsten guide rod with 17lb spring from the glock store, installed it and it comes into a small hesitated resistance while moving the slide to the rear manually as the original metal guide rod with 2 open slots would be very smooth. Any thoughts ( G29sf gen3 )
I say “mags” and correct my kids to use that term, but traveling the states I’ve noticed that “clips” is more of a synonym based on your location. They know it’s a magazine but they call it a clip because everyone in that region calls it that. It’s just speaking the local lingo... you’ll hear “clips” from Texans, Virginians, and Louisiana folk... it’s a southern thing I suppose.
While I have no doubt using a heavy guide rod makes a difference (I use stainless), it's obvious that guy took more time shooting with the tungsten rod.
Any true competition shooter will tell you that reducing your recoil spring weight will most effectively tighten up your groups because the slides violent forward motion is reduced and you get less bounce, meaning you stay on target a lot easier. Grip, spring weight, practice are a good place to start. Heavier weight up front just means you have to compensate the fall of the heavier muzzle with greater lift. It’s a balancing act IMO
Practice improves accuracy. A rod just helps reduce the muzzle rise.
Micah Correct!
Why doesnt glock make the tungsten guide rod stock?
on my 43X after I put the tungsten guide rod in it was almost impossible to pull the rack back
Lenny, how do I know which spring weight to use in my G21 SF? What do the different color weights do? Also how do I know to use a lower or heavier weight?
STILL waiting for a reply
Q.R.F. CombatVet ......still waiting lol
Still waiting 2yrs have gone by.... Glock Store. Please help with a detailed answer
So your spring weight needs to be heavy enough to to put the slide back into battery, while overcoming the trigger spring weight. The lower the recoil spring weight, the slower the slide moves forward and has less bounce upon returning to battery. The lower spring weight also leaves the chamber open longer allowing the spent casing to clear the chamber area and gives the mag more time to push up another round. Lower weights have a harder time pushing a round into a dirty or rough ramped chamber. You also need to be concerned about the loads you normally shoot having an effect on the longevity of the moving parts. Lighter spring could mean more wear in a gun shooting heavier loads. 13-11 pound in a G17 shooting 115 grain has the best balance between cycle time, effective load handling, and muzzle bounce. Stock 17 pound is meant to reliably cycle a wide range of ammo. You have a heavier spring for defensive type loads while still barely being able to fully cycle on lighter target loads. Most guys I shoot with use an 11 pound in race guns, while I shoot a 15 pound in my edc and a 13 pound in my 17L. I like the light weight in the longer gun to keep the muzzle from bouncing up and down when I’m trying to get back I target faster. Plus having the slide open longer is a good benefit. Hope that helps you some since Lenny doesn’t give a shit.
Lenny’s only out to make money…
Just got back from the range and shot the T0978 for the first. Got a lot of malfunctions. Does it require a break in period?
Which is better a tungsten guide rod or a stainless steel guide rod?
Tungsten obviously
Do I have to get a heavy for my Glock 23
Anybody used one of these in the g45? Wondering how reliable it is.
If he had a better grip it would make even more of a difference. Not thumb under hand but thumbs stacked.
I ordered a stainless spring on July 1st today is October 3rd they charge my account for it and I am still yet to see it do not order from the glock store they have many complaints on the better business bureau
If you call them they are mean asked a simple question. This guide rode I ordered for my 21 is scraping up so I don’t think it’s real tungsten.
So question..
I have a G26 gen4 what is the best rod for the 26 i believe it currently has 18lbs stock rod should I purchase a higher lbs rod I believe the highest is 20
Gotta get the tungsten guide rod asap for my Glock 33.
Will the stainless steel guide rod have same results?
My Glock Tungsten guide rod prevented my Glock from going to slide lock when the magazine emptied. :(
Bought one for my g23 and my gun does not like it at all..constant ftf issues so i took it out
I got a hold of one of these and tested against a gen 3 polymer guide rod, NO difference at all what so ever, not even in the slightest amount just another glock store gimmick, I think these things sell for 80$ on the website as well, don't waste your money! Instead spend the 80 on ammo and train with it! That will improve your grouping. Lenny is a crock riding on glocks success.
Or you could just add more trigger time to your training regiment and learn to control the recoil... Because when your slide cracks, or starts malfunctioning, any glock armorer is going to say, "you modded the guide rod to non-factory spec, we're not replacing your slide."
Be nice if they actually answered perspective customers questions here.
It's a magazine, not a clip. Would you call a spoon, a fork? Or would you call a fork a spoon? No. It's called a damn magazine...
Who gives a shit. its what they want to call it. So get the fuck over it.haha
No. I will not get over it.
He said between clips. Meaning between video clips. Does it really matter that much anyway? Not really the point of the video.
NY Sledge He said, more specifically "between clips; between 13 round clips"
Nevertheless, who gives a fuck whether it's a magazine or a clip, they both serve the same purpose, regardless of mechanics.
Robert Burke No they do not serve the same purpose. A clip loads rounds into a magazine. A magazine loads rounds directly into the chamber.
Jason, let's talk about that grip...
This thing doesn't improve accuracy, it decreases muzzle rise making follow-up shots easier. To be honest, if you're rich enough to afford this you may as well fork over even more cash for a guide rod made out of iridium, if you can get it custom made. Iridium is even heavier than tungsten, so the gun should barely move at all.
It does improve accuracy jackass my paper targets don't lie...😘
Make the stainless steel and/or tungsten guide rod for the 42!
Whag model is for glock 23 gen 5
What pound steel guide rod should I go with for a EDC G26?
Can you send me one for testing ?
Need one ASAP for my glock 23
it's a magazine not a clip you have been shooting for years and don't know the difference between the two wow
You produce some awesome content, sir. That being said, a hot chick providing the same information would yield you double the views at the very least. Just food for thought.
I have the biggest man crush on Lenny Magill. Hes freaking awesome!
so therefore GLOCK PERFECTION is not true.you have to spend more dollars just to improve your glock pistol.why not buy better than glock pistol out of the box like CZ IWI MASADA WALTHER HK?
How much r they??
cass jay ,80$
This may work but I'm not willing to pay $90 to find out.
I have this guide rod; 100% will not go into full battery after the first shot. 10 shots; 9 failure to close full battery. I have the Gen 4 Glock 35. Not saying it's a bad product; just that mine DOES NOT FUNCTION. Can't depend my life on it.
I have one on my G23 too.
And no matter what it’s shooting left haha damn glocks.
i mean he shot slower with the Tungsten guide rod which would lead to better shots
So my plastic Glock should be made of metal to be better and last longer? Suckers are born every minute. This guy sounds like a used car salesman.
I think your onto something.
So we just gonna ignore how his grip is shitty?
asking for a friend better grip and trigger pull will make that group shrink even more.
Take my money 🇺🇸👍
Lenny MaGrizzle!
I got the one for my Glock 27 in the 20 Lb. configuration and I can comfortably shoot the largest and hottest .40 cal round without getting thrown on my ass .......
Give him gen 4 glock 23
Just bought one for my 19 gen 5 haven't even shot it and it hangs up as I rack my slide so I won't recommend it!!!!
When you put 10 kilos at the end of any handgun it will reduce recoil, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!! Who would have known??? Putting more weight on a carry gun is just stupid. Put it on your race guns, that would make at least sense...
Why
cool
This is bullshit. I've been shooting for 50 years and am a competent gunsmith.
I call bullshit
Oh Lenny I'm disappointed brother... this guide rod is garbage... doesn't even fit, and those who got it to fit, complain about misfires and failure to feed
LOL A guide rod is NOT going to improve your accuracy.
Is a steel guide rod better than plastic? of course but it is not going to improve your groupings.
Morons.
you are absolutely right it is a lots of horse shit i tested their guide rods the springs are defective
Both comments above me are full of shit...
are we not going to talk about this guy's pathetic muzzle discipline...?
or him saying clip instead of magazine, or mag
I bought one for my Glock 19 and it really does make the gun jump less. They should make one for the G42. The only bad thing is they were out of the black one, but that's just aesthetic.
Why are these guiderods causing problems. You don’t tell your customers the recommended spring weight to change and not change. It’s All for money🙄
I put factory stings on my skeletized titanium strike and the Titanium plunger and with factory guildrod. It’s flawless. Tungsten? Problem. And Glock knows this. If they tell us what to do th have the guns run flawless. Then more parts would be sold. Not a reputation of having cheap Chinese parts that don’t work 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡
Is their a rod for glock 27 gen 5