Ford F150 5L V8 Fuel Economy Test **Heavy Mechanic Review** | Why is this Engine so EFFICIENT ??
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- I Review a 2023 Ford F150 with the 5.0L Coyote V8 and test the fuel economy and MPG. Ford says this truck and Engine will get 22mpg on the highway and I wanted to see if that was true. I also explain some mechanical reasons and differences why this 5L engine could be efficient
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I hope everyone had a good week. Last week I talked about how I really liked this engine option and I wanted to truly test out this truck for its fuel economy.
The first thing that helps this engine with economy is the cam phasers advancing the engine timing. this help the engine burn less fuel and become more efficient.
the second thing that helps this 5L become efficient is the cylinder-deactivation which I explained and am not a fan of.
the third thing that really helps this engine is the smaller size. less displacement means less air to be met with fuel and that is critical for fuel economy.
lastly is the driveline. this truck comes with a 10 speed and 3.31 gears all of which are highly advantageous for fuel economy. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
your really the only truck reviewer I watch because you state the issue, and you explain how the issue works and how it happens as if a toddler could understand,I have little to no mechanical experience but you make it make sense, keep it up 👍.
Well thank you sir! I try to touch on some complex stuff but also try and make it understandable to the average owner as well so happy you are liking them!
100% agree
@@TheGettyAdventureshow many Litres is this tank??
I've always been a GM truck guy but I have to say that with all the engine problems with their products I'm seriously thinking about a new Ford F150 truck with the 5.0. Thanks for the work you do testing all these trucks!
You’d love it
5.0 F150 is the best half ton
Friend, I was a hardcore GM guy but after a lemon 1500, followed by a lemon 3500 I went with f150 and am extremely satisfied, I never knew trucks could be pleasant
@@saltymofo5870 pleasure to drive,very good on gas,enough new tech for XLT 302….love it
🤣🤣🤣 did you see Ford's fix for the oil consumption issue with the 5.0???
They replaced the dipstick with different increments on the new dipstick so the low oil level shows more oil then the truck has!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Garbage!!
I'll stick with my 149,000 trouble Free miles Silverado!!!
Excellent video and would definitely like to see more videos like this, i think the route you ran is good for real world results because not everywhere is super flat anyways.😁
amazing video thanks so much! AGain great stuff. Love it. Subbed and liked!!!
These pickup powertrain videos you’ve been doing have been great. Interesting to see how the various brands and powertrain options stack up in towing, economy, etc.
I’ve heard good things about the 5.0 from owners of f150s. Had we not purchased our 21 with the 3.0L diesel, the v8 probably would have been a contender. The last truck was a 5.7L Ram which we loved, but it was THIRSTY! The type of driving we do (daily driver) lends itself well to the diesel, so it’s been a great fit for us…..and totally trouble free for 36k miles so far (knock on wood).
Keep up the great vids!
What sort of daily driving do you do with the 3.0L diesel? More in town or highway and what sort of distance? I've played with the idea of jumping to one of the F150s with that engine, or the GM I6 Duramax, or the Ram EcoDiesel but I'm not sure if I need it lol
@@mrdyxi88 Mixed driving (probably a bit more city than highway), I generally get 20-22 mpg pretty regularly. All highway, easily 28+ mpg. On a vacation trip from IN to NC and back a couple summers ago, we got 30mpg (cruise set to 75mph).
I daily drive the truck mainly because we have a 4500 LB camper that we tow several times a year. It pulls that camper effortlessly. Towing the camper is usually around 10-13mpg depending on wind, how fast we are going, etc.
This truck has been great. Love it. Understand though hat the higher price of diesel offsets some of the mpg benefits. Compared to driving a 2.7L or the 5.0L, am I saving money? It’s probably a wash. But part of having the diesel for me is the driving experience….lots of torque. And also the “unicorn” factor. I rarely see a 3.0 diesel around here.
Awesome vid. Would like to see a video on gear ratio comparisons in a 5.0 and how the gearing would impact fuel economy empty and in towing
Im working on doing exactly that, hopefully soon. Most likely with the ecoboost but it will be very cool to see the difference gearing and how it effects fuel mileage
This video has inspired me to start tracking mileage on my new F150 5.0L V8 with 3.31 axle the same way you do, based on amount of fuel added at the pump and mileage driven. I'll start with the next fill up and see how it tracks over time here in the northern US with a mix of city and highway driving. This was another great video from The Getty Adventures!
Getty is biased towards the 5.0. When doing mpg tests with the 3.5 and 2.7 ,and on the same exact roads, he complains about the mpg not “being that good”- not getting what the epa said it would.
Now here with the v8 it’s just not a big deal that it got much less than the epa said it would , even with an 3:31 gear, and whines about the road inclines and breezes. In reality the v8 doesn’t really do all that well. Go figure
Good stuff, as always. My 2022 5.0 with 3.73 does seem to get worse MPG, at 75 mph it indicates 1900 RPM in 10th. As you mentioned, a towing ratio is going to have an impact, and with the max tow package, my experience seems to prove your case. It would be really cool if you could test the ratios for different engines to compare them. Looking forward to the next video!
I think I might compare gear ratios in the Eco boost engines. but it would be cool to see the 3.73 gears vs 3.31 in the 5L as well.
2022 F150 XL 4x4 5.0V8 Supercab 3.73 rear end long bed (max payload & tow pkgs) on a 1,400 mile trip one way.
Loaded with 2 adults and 300lbs of gear flat in the bed & cab height Yakima racks. Driving in above average winds, cruise control & normal mode - 19 mpg average with 1/3rd mountains and the rest rolling hills or flat plains. On the way home in eco-mode on the exact same roads we had 21 mpg according to truck software. Most all of it was driving at 55 to 75 mph but slower in the mountains. The truck now has 12k miles on it and been through 3 oil changes before our trip. It is a daily tow vehicle when Im working and I am very very happy without turbos.
Greetings Alex.
Always great the 302 pcd. = 4.988 l. = 5.0 l = famous nicknamed "Coyote" !
Compliant, reliable, and with great options to make you super gifted. Huge work in technology from the end of the 70's until now. One of my great favorites from yesterday, today and always, the very famous "Coyote".
Impossible not to go to my sweets memories 😮 (Fairmont and Mustang).
Thank you for sharing your views, reviews and comments. A big hug from CDMX, México.
All 3rd generation and newer Coyotes use a 93 mm bore with 12:1 compression to make them a true 5.0 at 5.035 Liters. The 1st and 2nd generation Coyotes used a 92.2 mm bore with 11:1 compression to make them a 4.951 litter, or "false 5.0". All generation Coyotes use the same 92.7 mm stroke, theoretically you can bore the older generation Coyotes and convert them into a 3rd or 4th gen engine. You can get the same 12:1 compression with just stock parts. Most of the parts are interchangeable. You can install the 4th generation dual throttle body intake on the 1st gen Coyote if you wanted to. You can also just swap the 1st gen heads on the 4th gen block to get rid of the cam phasers and cylinder deactivation. Plus you gain an oil pressure sensor instead of a basic "low oil pressure switch". Coyotes are incredibly cool engines to modify and boost.
Thank you for your video
Thank you for this video. The info was super helpful 🫡 Was this 3.31 the slip axle or the electronic locking?
I’m sold on this motor.
Thank you for this video,
extremely informative.
My next truck will be a Ford 5.0.
The B roll for this video is just fantastic
good information, thank you.
You do always need to do a loop when measuring mpg. Elevation gain or loss matter a *lot*.
The lifetime avg for my 21' 5.0 is 20.8. A buddy of mine got a tacoma about a month after i got mine and his avg is 18.5 with the V6.
Tacoma (really any Toyota truck) sucks for fuel economy. My 2015 4.0 Tacoma averages 15-16mpg mostly city. Granted it’s lifted and bigger tires, but it’s bad. Before that I had a 2012 F150 5.0 and I believe I averaged 17mpg with the same driving. I got the Tacoma for off-road adventures, but it’s time for a 1/2 ton at this point in my life. I wanted a tundra, but I’m heavily leaning towards the F150. I’m balancing the powertrains and mostly between the 5.0 and the Powerboost. FIL has a PB and it’s been phenomenal for him.
I've got a 2023 F150 with the 5.0. The computer in mine also says 19.3 MPG. 😂
I haven't done the calculations, but I'm satisfied with the fuel mileage. It definitely beats the Wrangler I had before it.
Sounds about right. I’ve seen upto 24 mpg with my 2022 F150 with the 5.0. Just depends on stuff like oncoming winds, elevation changes etc.
My 2020 5.0L F-150 4WD will get around 19.0-19.5 mpg if one keeps the speed at 65 mph or less. Drive over 65 mph, and the mpg will drop to 16.5-18.0. Like you, I dislike cylinder deactivation and I bought the used 2020 F-150 without cylinder deactivation and not a new '21 or '22 with it. Friends of mine who own the 3.5L Ecoboost have universally have had reliability and longevity issues, despite my friends being rigorous about maintaining their engines properly. My '20 5.0L had some oil consumption issues until the TSB addressing that issue was done--since then its oil consumption is around 1/2 quart per 4K-5K miles. Also, the EVIC out of the factory is over optimistic on fuel economy--the good news is that it can be adjusted by the user to reflect actual fuel economy. Mine is now dead-on accurate compared with hand-calculated fuel economy figures.
Cool video, some people might be confused by him stating 11.5 litre per 100km and 25mpg. That would be 25 miles per British gallon, yes if it wasn’t confusing enough we have a different type of gallon haha, that would 20.5 US mpg.
Americans have a 16 oz pint. Imperial is a 20 oz pint (it’s why those English beer glasses look so big).
I generally hate cylinder deactivation, but Ford seems to have gotten it right. They've been out for over 3 years, and have not been a reliability issue for Ford. Changing your oil every 3,500-4,000 miles with good oil will go a long way to keeping the cylinder deactivation (very important for GM owners. Change your oil frequently with DEXOS2 rated oil if you want your lifters to stay happy, and your intake valves clean) and cam phasers working reliably. I don't care if it's rated for 10K+ miles, going off the old narrative of oil changes every 3K miles is a good way to help these modern engines stay reliable. Look at Beefcafes blown 2022 5L truck is averaging 16.7 MPG on E85, and making well north of 700 WHP. My 18 5L on E85 that's tune only gets about 12.7 MPG, and I might average 16.7 on 93 octane. A supercharged 1/2 ton that runs well in the 10's, and averages nearly 17 MPG on E85 is damn impressive. People with stock 21+ 5L trucks are getting MPG's that rival the 2.7L Egoboost trucks. It seems like at least with the Coyote that cylinder deactivation has definite MPG benefits. If it's reliable then I have no issues with cylinder deactivation.
I mean I agree with that. Usually if there was an issue it would of shown itself after a couple years of real world use. Ford may have found a winning combo by designing it completely in house ?
If we serviced our vehicles today like we did even just 30 years ago the average lifespan would be 500k miles or something crazy. Even with the lengthened service intervals lifespan has gone up considerably.
@@TheGettyAdventuresFord seemingly put morr effort into implementing it and they have overhead cams to work with, which seems to make it much easier. GM had that nightmare because of their pushrod OHV design and RAM as well. Has there ever been a case where cylinder deactivation was a problem on OHC engines?
I have a 2020 without cylinder deactivation and get 21 (on the computer). I was getting 22 before I put a more aggressive tread on it (still the same size). That’s with premium fuel.
Could you do a new 2022+ Nissan Frontier and it’s engine (2020+ trucks because engine came out before the 2022 redesign) video? I would like to hear your thoughts on the 3.8L newish 2020+) engine. Thanks!
Best I got in my 2021 F150 5.0 V8 with 331 gears, All Terrain tires was 9.4L/100km
I found the P rated vs LT rated tires had an impact on mileage km’s.
A statement mentioning what tires are on the test vehicle and outside temperatures would be helpful.
Thanks
Ontario
Love your videos. Love to hear a bit more about what you think of the 10-speed transmission. There is a lawsuit in the U.S. over it having harsh shifting issues. A lot of folks (including me) who luckily aren’t having shifting issues nevertheless end up with a transmission that makes a noticeable whine noise. Ford says that is is due to straight cut gears and that a “small amount” of whine is normal for the transmission and doesn’t impact longevity. I’m doubtful. What do you think?
114k miles on my 17 10 speed. Has had the whine since day 1
Great videos! Love the series. Just fyi…my 2019 2.7l gets 24mpg on a long trip at 75mph . 3:55 gears
Shhhh 😉 don't be saying things like that. Haha jk the 2.7L ecoboost seem like a great option
I’ve owned both GM and Ford…5.4, 5.0, 5.3, and I have to say the 2.7 is by far the best motor I have owned. For moderate towing, the low end torque is very good, unreal mileage empty. Quick as well 0-60.
2.7 Ecoboost Acceleration Towing #shorts
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I agree with the loop but leave the hills in it, helps make it more real world
My 2017 f150 eclb 3.5 ecoboost leveled and ko2 tires, will do
16 mpg mixed city/ country driving
15 mpg @ 75mph
16.5 mpg @ 70mph
18 mpg @ 60 mph
22 mpg @ 55 mph
I had a 2018 F150 3.5L. I had to make an unexpected trip from South Florida to Rhode Island. I got a surprising MPG of 26.5. I drove 75 mph all the way.
My 2017 F150 5.0 RWD gets 19.8 mpg repeatedly at 63 mph (set cruise control) on a 500+ mi round trip, each way going up from sea level up 4000+ ft and down. And that's with a 5000 lb weighted open trailer in tow.
My 2022 fMPG (Ford MPG) is always 1ish MPG optimistic. That said, also have a toyota and it's the same. To move the f150 brick at 70mph is a big hit to potential peak MPG. Slowing down and not running on the interstate can added 10-30percent to MPG. If you do a test run at 50-55mph, you can notice the difference. I also think the cylinder deactivation adds to MPG at slower speeds and low torque situations. Worst case for this truck is stop/start as the 4.5-5.0K mass takes a great deal of fuel to accelerate.
I have heard of plenty of cam phaser issues with the old 5.4, and with the 3.5 eco, but never the 5.0 coyote. If I were to get one, I would get a tune to turn off the cylinder deactivation. US government regs really make things more expensive, and needlessly complicated. Would love to see you test a 3.73 equipped truck.
I think 3.73 gears would hurt a little but I don't think as much as people think. But ya the cylinder deactivation crap bugs me
The 3.73's are awesome, especially if you tow with your Coyote. If you want a Coyote with a 9.75" rearend instead of the "super" 8.8" rearend (basically a 8.8" with a 12 bolt cover instead of the traditional 10 bolt cover) you have to get it with the 3.73's. I've heard that if you get a coyote truck that's crewcab with the 6.5' bed or maybe an extended cab with the 8' bed that you can get a 9.75 with either a 3.31 or 3.55, but don't quote me on that. With a 275/55-20 (32" tire) my 18 5L FX4 cruise on the highway at the exact speed that every M6 Camaro I've ever owned does. Basically at 80 MPH I'm turning right at 2,000 RPM going down the highway, which is easy going for a Coyote. The 1 MPG less rating that the 3.73 trucks get when compared to the 3.31 and 3.55 truck might be because of the gearing, but it might also be that a 9.75" is just a heavier/beefier rearend to have to turn than a 8.8". Makes you wonder why Ford offers anything but a 3.73 in these trucks. Hell in 19 GM went to a 33" 275/60-20 for their 20" wheels, and Ford followed suit in 21. The 1" tall tire should drop the RPM a little at any given speed, in any given gear.
You are correct, my f150 5.0 with the 6.5 has the 9.75 with a 3.31 ratio
@@JROC734not sure if it’s standard, but that is how my truck came equipped
@@JROC734 yea I would want the 3.73 for towing. Granted the newer trucks are more powerful than even my Oz tuned '12, I have come to dislike the 3.55 gears that it has. Granted my previous truck was an '05 with a 4.6 2v and 4.56 gears, with 33's. lol
Can you review the ford ranger and the midsize trucks?
20-21 mpg sounds about right. I get 19 highway in my F-150 5.0 and I have the max tow and HDP packages.
I think on flat ground I could of gotten the 22 or much closer but I was happy with 20.5. I personally would sacrifice the fuel economy for the max tow package all day!
Do the manufacturers tweak on the transmission electronics differently for each axle gear ratio? I have an older F150 with 3.73s and 35” tires, which seems to work well, even towing 6-8k pounds. I suspect 3.31s would not be so good with 35s.
Speaking of driveline....I changed all my driveline fluids (transmission, diffs, transfer case) to a good quality fluid, and I got 10% fuel economy improvment.
Which fluids did you use?
@@MbtSC6that’s what I’m wondering LOL
@@MbtSC6 Amsoil
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Biggest difference was in the transfer case when in 4L. The truck pulls itself without input on the accelerator now. It's like having the crawler gear like the Bronco. It won't pull itself up mountains but it goes a long way.
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When you filled the truck up all the way how much range do you get in this truck I’m assuming with the 26 gallon tank?
When i buy a v8 truck mpg is not my concern but a plus im looking for easy power and most importantly reliability i personally prefer a gm the pushrod platform is too easy and the torque curve is superb but everyone is different
I have 1 2013 F-150 with the 5.0L. I have gotten as high as 24 MPG on the highway. Typically I do get 21-22 on the highway.
Got a 2024 Tremor 5.0 and have gotten 24.3 average mpg on the highway… And the EPA rating is 20!
I’m not a expert but I’m thinking the 5.0 probably sucks more air than the 6.2. DOHC + 4 valves per cylinder plus more revs. The more air you can get in and out as well as how fast you can do it is a big determining factor into how much power you can make hence the reason the coyote makes power similar to its larger competition. I’m sure you know but the coyote doesn’t have lifters like a pushrod engine so however they achieved their cylinder deactivation should be very different from the others.
Hopefully it holds up long term! I haven’t heard of any having issues yet
Can you take a look at the 2023 Nissan Titan NA V8?
2.7L does a phenomenal job if you stay out of the turbos. 70mph and flat is around 24/25. slow down to unrealistic speeds like 60 and it can touch 30 with no wind/hills... but load up a trailer and send it up a mountain and it will start blasting viking drinking music.
No engine gets good mpg when towing
My 07 Ram 1500 4x4 on a couple of tests can get 23 mpg that's with hills but mostly flat. On the average it's around 15 mpg. I live in BC with nothing but hills.
We have the 2022 STX. 5.0 with 3.31 rear end. Wife and i just live the truck
the 3.31 gears are not the best for towing but I mean if you don't need to tow 10,000lbs they are awesome for a good daily driver!
The best I can get out of my 2011 f150 5.0 with 3.55 gears is 16. Average is usually around 13.5 and that's mostly highway miles. I do have a toolbox in the box and aftermarket wheels/tires. I'm not overly concerned about mpg's tho. It's been a great truck that I'll keep for many more years
My 2013 5.0 3.55 4x4 supercrew gets 15 combined. Not a heavy boot, either. Does this sound right?
@@jasonclark3724 yep
My 2012 Supercab w/204k 4x4 gets 16.9 around town and 19+ @ 70 Hwy on cruise.
Best I ever got out of my 2018 f150 5.0 is 16.5 city and 22 highway.
In my 2018 F-150 I can get 23.5 mpg highway driving 55 mph in econo mode without A/C on. At 70 mph the MPH will drop to 19. 😊
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Gotta love the 5.0L Coyote V8, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 159,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Hey alex, little off topic I know
BUT you should look into Ford bringing Gas Particulate Filters (GPFs) to North America!
I actually ran across this a couple weeks ago. not sure how I mean about it. certainly something I can see being pushed here in the future.
I used to get 22-23 miles per gallon when using the light road tires . Only on long trips, on the highway, non stop trips. My average with my gen. one 5.0 is 16 mpg though.
I love that f150 5.0. Crazy people buy the v6
I agree 100% brother
3.7l is no slouch though. Great engine
you seem to really like these 5.0's. when are you trading in the powerwagon? lol
I like them forsure BUT lets not get crazy. The 5L is a great engine but the PW as a whole is spectacular 👌
Hello any new news on durability of the 5.0 plasma transfer wire arc cylinder liners?
I'm starting to think there are no great options and I need an extended warranty.
EB 3.5 cam phaser problems. Transmission problems.
5.3 and 6.2 lifter problems.
3.0 duramax check engine lights.
3.4 twin turbo toyota?
Hemi is a great option. Almost to 200k on our 2012, runs great. Had a 2004 Hemi before, was a great truck.
I get 22 with mine, if I draft a semi I can get 26-28mpg. Mine is a 22 full cab with 6.5ft bed, I don’t know the gear ratio, but now I’m going to find out lol
For the life of me I don’t like the idea that a transmission doesn’t have a dip stick . Never owned a automatic transmission that didn’t have access to fluid level and a fill port . These plastic intake manifolds and absence of dip stick should save a company like ford to lower prices and we know that didn’t happen. I love my 5.0 but I like to check color and level of the trans .
My 2020 2.7 Ecoboost doesn't get any better mileage than you just did with the v8. I have a question. Did Ford detune the 2019-2020 2.7 Ecoboost? The reason I ask is because I previously owned a 2018 2.7 and it was incredibly fast( 5.6-6.0 seconds 0-60) but my 2020 2.7 takes 7.5 to get to 60 mph.(Both super cabs with a 3:55 rear end) My new truck routinely drops to 8th in hills whereas my 2018 never dropped below 9th. Can you or anyone reading the comments help me out here?
I’d be curious to see a video on the F150 Powerboost. My father in law got one about 6mo ago and has been loving it. I’ll be getting a 1/2 ton in about year and I’m between the 5.0, 3.5 and ecoboost. I’ve always been a Toyota guy, but the new Tundra still likes to drink fuel and the build quality from what I’ve seen is just mediocre.
I wish the 5.0L F-150 had the option for the PowerBoost.
1-2% increase in economy is actually impressive. When the manufacturers and the EPA talk about economy increases, they are talking about the emissions and operating efficiency of the entire fleet or line up of vehicles. MPG is always a side product of efficiency. Ford sells on average around 650,000 F150s per year. The 1-2% increase may only equate to 0.5 mpg if going from 21.5 to 22 mpg. However, when multiplied by 650,000 trucks, that can mean 325,000 gallons saved with just 1 gallon used. The average consumer drives 15,000 miles per year. If, theoretically, they all got 22 mpg instead of 21.5 mpg, that would save 5,151,250 gallons per year if they all drove 15,000 miles. The EPA states an average of 8,887 grams of co2 is emitted into the atmosphere per gallon of fuel burned. That would mean Ford would save 50,463 tons of co2 per year with they saved just 1-2% mpg on their F150. This is another example of a small change creating a butterfly effect that creates a huge positive impact to air quality.
I have a 2023 F-150 with the Max Tow Pkg. Only 1500 miles so far and I’m averaging 16-17 mpg mixed highway & town driving. Highway seems to be closer to 18 mpg. We will see how it does in the long run after break-in period.
Ouch, my 2023 5.0 got 21 first tank of gas, and 7k later still 21. Seems there was no break in. Mine is 3.31. Hope yours has a break in.
People are driving 55 and claiming 2000 mpg lol
Is the cylinder deactivation a Canada requirement, or do the US trucks also have that feature?
That’s both. I think it was primarily to meet US emissions standards.
Do you think that the 5.0 may fare better with the cylinder deactivation because it’s dual overhead cam? I’m not a fan of it; but it could be the silver lining
I think it will do better not because its DOHC/OHC but because its more mechanical in nature and less reliant on oil pressure or solenoids to work properly.
@@frederickdouglass7517 interesting. I honestly don’t know enough about how it operates in the 5.0
My wife drove my truck to pick me up from work 5.5 hours and was getting almost 24 mpg at speeds from 55-65 mph i drove back getting almost 23 mpg. Truck is 2018 crew cab long bed 4x4 5.0 with HD tow package 36 gl tank. Only mods done to truck are muffler delete bed cover removed factory 1.25 lift blocks in rear and tinted windows it aslo has 109'000 miles
wow! with the tow package too. probably rocking 3.73 gears, that's actually very impressive.
I have digital copy of window sticker just checked the window sticker, and it's got 3.55 electronic locking diff Lariat 502a package chrome package it was originally a Canadian truck I bought it from dealer in Ohio and shipped it down to Louisiana
I have a gen 4 5.0 4x4 I have gotten up to 23.7 . It averages 21.8 to 23.4 if I stay under 70mph
A 5.0 is a high Erving motor and is a good motor as long as you turn the cylinder activate that turns cylinders and the stop and start and you can get them turned off with a good scan tool and the motor just got more reliable.
A scan tool where do I get one of these ?
I have the same truck. I average 19.5 mpg which includes towing a trailer 1 day a week.
that's actually pretty solid.
So whats the best truck you would say/recommend in the 3/4 ton category? I know the coyote is a good motor but I need a bigger truck either F250 or 2500HD.
Ford for f150s. GM for 2500 diesels
Does a 2011 5.0 with 3.31 could achieve this ?? F150 ??
Buen video, gracias.
Thank you sir!
2:09 no they run the “highway” mpg at 48 miles per hour on a Dyno with no wind resistance and a fan feeding air to the radiator.
SAE J1082 is quite a bit more complex than that.
2020 f150 18.7 usual driving highway 25
Your point about the Ford engineer stating it only increased fuel economy one to 2% is not a lie geez sounds like the government not ford had something to do with that because the cost risk reward ratio is very poor in favor of that new set up started in 2021
Did you use premium fuel? Gasoline engines are really sensitive to fuel, & the highest octane rating will net the least fuel usage.
Cruise control does worse for me than my right foot
Did a test last year on 700 km trip
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better mileage than the chevy ?
Is it wise to get rid of the AFM or whatever it is. Deactivate the v4. Seems to use more fuel going back into 8 cylinder..... or am i over thinking that? Looking for input from anyone
I mean, it's not the end of the world just another potential failure point. Although ford does not have issues thus far and they have been out for 3 years now. So its not looking terrible at this point
ah, thank you @@TheGettyAdventures
I have a 21 with the 5.0 and I kind of wonder the same thing. When I keep it in sport mode I seem to show the exact same average mpg as if in normal mode.
@@kepple319sport keeps it v8 and no cylinder deactivate?
I think I’m going to look for a used F-150 with the 5.0L engine. Oh no. Cylinder deactivation at traffic lights, etc.! What years?
What fuel would you prefer to put in this 5.0 liter , 93 /91 or standard?
I dont think you need premium fuel. The compression ratio isn't that high. But premium fuel isnt going to hurt anything either. Probably better for the engine long term
@@TheGettyAdventures thanks , make sense ,
I would be getting my new F150 Tremor with 5 liters of awesomeness on coming Monday so , excited .
Plus i have gone with the opt torsen in the front , I hope it would be good for the albertan winters .
You do a real world testing. Hills and wind. Want to increase numbers. Just run it on a dyno and let it sit and spin back tires......
Man... Dude.... Alex... do a video on the Nissan Titan!!!
Iv tried to get one for some time now. I might have to settle with an old girl but my fear is an old truck that just won't compare to the new ones. Could be wrong but I'll keep looking
I wish you could feature my truck on your channel, that would be awesome!! How are you liking your Power Wagon still?
so i have had my xlt for 5 years, crew cab 8 foot box i am always around 13.5 l to 100 km, sometimes less, with 2 round bales on varies between 14 to 16
do you know what gearing you have?
3.73 and it works fine for towing and hauling,@@TheGettyAdventures
2.73 i beleive@@TheGettyAdventures
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What you need to do next is the tune test. A 18+ Coyote truck tunes better than any other N/A truck out there. Let's see 5L, 12:1 compression ratio, rated for 87 octane. How do we make it survive? Just pull a bunch of timing from it. You think the only reason Mustangs Coyote makes more power is due to the manifolds? No, Mustang GT isn't having to deal with an 87 octane rating. See F150 with Coyote gets you both flex fuel, and Speed Density instead of MAF. No mods required to run straight E85. When tuned with a custom flex fuel tune the trucks computer will self adjust to whatever fuel mixture is in the tank, and add or pull timing depending. Lund, 5 Star, PBD, etc offer great tunes, but they don't offer flex fuel tunes to my knowledge. They want to give you a 87 tune, and a 93 tune, and a E85 tune, and a tow on 87 tune, and a tow on 93 tune, etc. Piss on that. A custom flex fuel tune self adjusts to any fuel (made for use in a gasoline vehicle) in any situation. Nothing can be simpler, and it works beautifully. My 18 F150 XLT 302A FX4 crewcab with 20" wheels runs as strong as a M6 LS1 car, and will outrun my bolton 03 Lightning. That's with a tune only, E85 in the tank, and a drop in K&N filter in the factory airbox. Even on 93 octane it's a huge improvement. I run an All Motor Research Labs (AML is what it's usually called) tune, but OZ also offers a very good custom flex fuel tune. These are done by datalogging, and isn't the same old mail order tune BS that you would buy 15-20 years ago. Trust me you would love this truck with a good custom flex fuel tune. And the Speed Density makes tuning easy, peasy. Even the 20-23 GT500 uses the same SD that's in an 18+ Coyote F150.
Here's an example of a stock, custom flex fuel tune only, 4WD, crewcab GEN3 Coyote truck running on E85. This one has an OZ tune.
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With a full tank, you gonna burn more fuel. My question is, how much gas in the tank when tested by epa
Can you tune and turn off cylinder deactivation?
I would imagine you could but I believe they utilized a different more complex lifter which could still lead to the same issues experiencing the GM engines. Only time will tell
@TheGettyAdventures really hate the government always poking its nose where it doesn't belong
@@TheGettyAdventures so you’re saying you could turn it off and it won’t matter ?
Toyota tundra review?
It’s not about fuel cont but emissions
2wd 2013 5.0 I had got arpund 20 or 21 and that thing ripped
it is pretty cool how efficient these engines are. why they needed cylinder de-activation is beyond me.
If I stay below 65mph my 19’ 2WD 4 door 5.0 will get 21-23 pretty easy.
ya it seems like above 65-70 mph you start to see some negative returns on fuel economy
Actually vehicles aren't even tested at 65mph. It's only 45-55 mph in a lab I believe.
well I've been wrong before! sounds much more likely lol
www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
That cylinder cancel mode sucks and you can turn it off with a hood scan tool !!
Where do I get one of these ??
That’s pretty much it…
Real world driving is up n down into the wind…
WELL. THATS AS GOOD AS MY 3.5 ECOBOOST GOT ON A 600 MILE TRIP TO LAS ANGELES. MOST OF THE WAY WE WERE ON CRUISE CONTROL DOING AROUND 80 MPH MOST OF THE TIME. GUESS THAT'S "OK"????? TRUCK IS AT 5035 MILES ON THE ODO....
Wow..my 1995 f150 351 4x4 gets 9 mpg around town 13 hwy. 😢
ya but that 351 will probably outlast all the new stuff.
But atleast it'll out alot of these overpriced EcoBoost trucks you see on the road by a long shot. I have a 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 with 210,000 miles and still going strong, the only things I replaced on my truck was the starter, the rear fuel pump, and the power steering megunisum but other than that mostly was just simple maintenance, took out the transmission fluid just to get rid of the shuttering it was making and it hasn't had a problem ever since.
This dude is a 5.0 fanboy. Nuff said
There's no argument about it, they are nice trucks.
Just a good all round engine. lots of power but still very efficient.
Nobody is going to even mention ethanol fuel? Maybe ford tests them on ethanol free. You’ll never get that mileage using ethanol.
i read somewhere that the epa tests with ethanol free fuel which results in more power and mpg due to more energy for gas vs any ethanol mix since it has less energy for the same volume tho that was years ago not sure if their methods are still the same