Eh govt doesnt ruin everything maybe some over reach in mileage and emmissions but without govt no roads, no bridges, no fish left in ocean, no garbage pick up, no security so probably be ruzzian tanks running around for pootlers land grab so be careful what u wish for
Bought a 2014 F150 5.0 in 2017 with 36k then sold it in 2022 with 164k. Did routine maintenance. Engine was bullet proof and fun to drive. Only thing that went wrong was a coolant leak at the water pump hose. Great engine.
I have a 2020 F-150 with the 5.0 V8 and it uses a quart of oil in 2000 miles. The Ford dealership performed the update (oil/filter change, new dipstick etc...), but it didn't seem to help. I have 67,000 miles on the truck. Great truck...but that oil thing bothers me. The dealers don't seem to care much. Other than that, this truck does everything I need! I enjoyed watching your videos as well! Thank You, Randy T.
Sr. You have finally answered my mysterious flaw on my 2018 Ford F150 5.0 since I purchased my truck back in 2018 I noticed I quart of oil burning with in an oil changed Ford told me it was a normal issue. I knew it was not normal and now because of your professional knowledge I know the true answer. Thank you Sr.
I have a 2017 f150 5 liter and the great 6 speed trans with 105,000 miles and so far have not had any kind of issues with it. I run Pennzoil Platinum oil and replace around every 7500 miles. I'm old school and told the salesman that wanted to sell me the Ecoboost and told him rather have the extra two pistons rather than the extra cost and high dollar repair or replacement on the two turbos and equipment down the road. I tow a thirty five hundred pound cargo trailer with it about 3000 miles to the west mountains every year and it pulls it like a champ. Dealer has been wanting me to trade in for a 2023 model but will not because Ford screwed the current 5 liter engine up when they went direct injection, auto stop start, cylinder deactivation and the ten speed transmission.
I have the 2018 F150 5.0L. Before the service bulletin was burning 1 qt per 1100-1400 miles. After the service bulletin is 1 qt per 4000 miles. Since I change the oil by then, never have to add any between changes anymore. On the plus side, I love the power. Especially at high speeds. The 70-100mph passing power is amazing! And, the fuel economy for such a powerful full size truck is great too. My average, which includes both city and highway driving is 20 mpg. Pure highway is 22mpg!
Hello. I also have a 2018 with the 5.0 and 10 speed and I do really like the truck. Mine too burns about the same oil as yours. When you mention the service bulletin, what exactly was done, and did the dealer handle the repair, or did you do it on your own? How many miles approximately did you do the service bulletin repair at?
The service bulletin is a couple things. Primarily a software update the prevents the throttle plate from closing entirely during deceleration. This lowers the amount of manifold vacuum produced. Which prevents sucking the oil into the cylinders. Additionally they change the dipstick with one remarked levels. Wish it didn’t consume any oil at all, but I can live with a quart/4000 miles. No other issues at all at 78,000.@@zachis4wheeling
I also have the 2018 F150 with the 5.0L. I need to add a quart about every 4,000 miles. I bought this as a certified pre-owned about three years ago, now has about 75,000 miles. We only put about 8,000 miles a year, some towing with a 3,000 lb teardrop trailer. No issues. We get around 15-16 mpg in city driving. Depending on the terrain, we get around 12 - 13 mpg towing. Driving up a lot of high mountain passes it drops to around 10 mpg.
Had a 2013 & put 360000km hard AB oil field kms on it & the engine was flawless. Changed the oil with full synthetic @ 10000km religiously with no engine issues. Seems like the cylinder deactivation & the piston liners seem suspect…
2021 - 23 cylinder deactivation can be disabled with a tune and default to v8 mode once disabled. The mechanical parts have shown little to no issues once deactivated with a tune. The liners have been holding up rather well, but I have personally seen casting issues in the block in gen 3, and ring issues in gen 3. Gen 3.5 seems to be pretty decent so far.
I have a 2018 5.0 with 60k with zero oil consumption. I change the oil every 4K miles using Mobile 1 with BG MOA. I use BG EPR before every oil change which helps clean the rings and keeping them tight. I love the truck and have had no issues, I would be lying however if I said all these videos don’t make me nervous and cautious!
I have a 2022 F150 Lariat with the 5.0L. I’ve heard a lot of noise about cylinder deactivation and people’s hesitation about it, but I have yet to hear of anyone having issues related to it since Ford put it on this engine. Maybe time will tell. I’m hopeful that Ford took into account lessons learned from GM and Ram.
I'm with you. I'm not waiting the full 10,000 miles to change my oil. I don't care what type of additive packet is in that oil. I simply don't trust it and everything seems to have a turbo on it now a days. As soon as one of my vehicles gets down to fifty percent oil life i change it. Just personal preference.
I’ve got a 2007 F150 4.6 that’s had oil changes every 10k mobile 1 5w20 full synthetic with 212K on the odometer and still going strong. The only work I had to do was replace the AC. The truck is solid and used as a company service truck now.
I bought a 2022 5.0L used in Jan 2023 with 4,400 miles. Has a little over 30K miles now and no engine issues. Even under heavy towing I have no oil loss.
I bought a brand new 2017 F150 4X4 FX4 XLT 302A 5.0L coyote 2nd generation. I take it to the dealership for all maintenance, and i have them change the oil and rotate the tires every 4000 -5000 miles. It has been rock solid since i bought and I now have 80,000 miles on my truck.
I have a 2020 F150 5.0 and I just had the engine replaced at 60,000 miles by dealer due to the oil consumption. Luckily I bought the 100,000 mile warranty.
ive got a 2014 with 185k miles and it runs perfect zero problems super happy with it i honestly dont expect any new vehicle to last over 150k miles because of how many bad engines have been produced lately
I have a 2017 5.0, is it normal to feel a slight shake/shudder at idle sometimes? The 2024 5.0 I test drove did the same thing, so I wonder if it's a 5.0 quirk.
I appreciate these channels and reviews but man it freaks me out being in the market for a retirement truck! So many things to navigate and be aware of!
If you’re buying a used 5 L you should be very concerned about it since many of the ones sitting on the car lot used were traded because people were tired of dealing with oil consumption that the dealer couldn’t or wouldn’t fix.
Anything else I should keep an eye on? I've watched this video a few times now as well as others and I'm just gathering info. Looking at a 2019 5.0 with 76k and I'd like it to last for quite some time. I don't drive MUCH and will rarely tow anything
That was my intention when I bought my 19 5.0. FWIW, the only reason I still have it is because I feel guilty passing it on to someone else. Oil consumption, suspected cam phasers (I have changed oil and done routine maintenance religiously), stalling coming to rolling stop, replaced rear end, TCM fault codes, you name it at 80k miles. Anecdotal evidence, but I'd stay as far away as possible if I were you. Dealership is less than helpful in advising, 2 independent shops have told me it's got some bad signs, could run for quite a while, could be a paperweight next week. I will personally never own another Ford product after this experience. Just my 2 cents.@@frankpocean
I have 2015 f150 coyote which is the 2nd gen coyote. . Bought brand new and have 152,000 miles on it now. Replaced water pump about 500 miles ago. Always change oil at 5,000 miles and it doesn’t use any oil still. Been extremely reliable truck for me so far.
I've been a chevy guy my entire life and just bought a 2020 F150 with the 5.0. Dealer is putting tires on it so I haven't picked it up yet. Hopefully I won't be disapointed. I sure as hell enjoyed the test drive!
My 2022 does not consume a drop of oil. Even when I went longer than my usual 5K oil change. Currently at 21K miles. I also am glad to see a lack of issues with cylinder deactivation popping up the way it did with Dodge and GM. While never optimal I think Fords CD is a better setup than Dodge or GM.
What mpg are you getting? No oil consumption issues here either. But the cylinder deactivation kinda scares me a bit. Do you notice a difference in mpg with the C.D? I'm just glad Ford doesn't use the same cd set up that Chevy does.
I heard that Ford went with the bigger oil pump from the Godzilla engine (the reason for the belt-driven pump?) when they introduced the CD feature on the 4th-gen Coyote to eliminate the issues found on other brands with CD.
@@SudburySaturdayNight1787 If you're concerned about CD, you can disable it by switching the Drive Mode to Sport. You'll have to switch to Sport on every start up, but I routinely dial over to Sport mode and set the transmission gear limiter to 7 when driving around town and on short highway trips (8, 9, & 10 are overdrive gears and the truck rarely, if ever, shifts above 7 without gear limiting when driving around town below 50MPH), and It makes the truck more responsive with quicker accelerator response & shifts. I only see a 1MPG gain in Normal Mode.
As someone who owns a Dodge, it seems as if the "cylinder deactivation" issues are more of an oiling issue at idle rather than a cylinder deactivation or parts quality issue. Dodge started to have issues with lifters in 2009, when VVT was added to the engine and can happen on all HEMIs with or without MDS. Cylinder 5 seems more common to fail rather than the rest, which is a non-MDS cylinder. Also, Dodge introduced cylinder deactivation in 2006 and the earlier 2006-2008 engines with MDS but without VVT do not have lifter issues like the 2009+. Also, Dodge lifter issues, due to it being an oiling issue at idle, are a later in life issue. Many engines make it to 150k+ without issues. My 2015 has 206k on it's original lifters. The main ways to avoid lifter failure on a Dodge is avoid idling and short cycling if you don't want to replace the oil pump for the hellcat part. It also seems as if lifter failure is worse on the earlier engines, with weaker oil pumps that pump lower pressures at idle. GM lifters seem to be a poor quality control issue, because I've heard of many GM lifters failing very early in the engine's life. Like as early as the first 10k miles on the engine. Though only time will tell how a vehicle will last and time will tell if Ford's cylinder deactivation will give the engine issues.
I have a 2018 xlt 5.0. I started getting oil consumption around 50k miles. It’s pretty bad, after an oil change it takes about 2k miles and most of the oil is gone. Fortunately, my truck is still under warranty and the dealer has just ordered me a new motor. Keep an eye on it and do what you can to not void your warranty.
Thanks for the updates. Changed my oil last night in a 2018 f150 coyote. Even though I had the tsb completed almost 2 years ago this engine still burns 2-1/2 quarts in 4000 miles on full synthetic Penzoil Ultra. I change the oil at 50% oil life . I currently have just under 50,000 miles. The front wheel bearing was replaced a 1000 miles ago and the locks still freeze even after the repair update. I like the truck but it does have some issues.
Thanks for the info Scott! That's a lot of oil burnt in 4,000 miles. not really good. from what I'm gathering from the comments most people who got the TSB done still experience oil consumption which sucks.
I had to put same in for 4000 miles. Juat had oil change at shop and they scoped the cylinders and found scoring in 1 and 2 on cylinder walls and claim that's where the oil is going.
I had the updates done to my 2018.The biggest scam ever.They put a longer dipstick in and the 2 marks that indicate down 1 ltr were spaced apart the amount of the extra length of the dipstick and added an extra ltr of oil.When the stick is down to the 1 ltr mark ,your actually down 2 ltrs. I sold my truck at 32000 kms .The new owner will not know the differnce unless they top up the oil between changes
Got a 14 5.0 here when we bought it new my brother and a friend helped me remove the cab and box / components required to upgrade the stock chassis and frame it was a a lot of fun long hours but made the truck that much more reliable we sprayed it with a spray liner coating to protect the frame and body while it continues being a plow truck it never let us down but keep it mind that co insides with regular scheduled maintenance.
Tried that once. It doesn't work. Salt and stuff end up under the coating. On my it ended up eating the bed side frame rails. Welded frame and sold. Didn't dare wonder what was under the rest of the coating. I actually end up going about 2 ft up with it all around the outside of the truck as well. Used bedliner spray coated everything. Nope. Still rusted
The only reason I want one is for the aluminum body.....no rust for my last truck on earth. Never cared for the modular engines with those pesky timing chain tensioner problems. Right now, I have an '05 Hemi with 184,000 miles still going strong....1 owner. But I need to catch it before the damn cam/lifter destruction.
My old 14 f150 coyote ran for 270000 +. 100k was spent pulling 7500lb camper nationwide. When sold it ran perfect. Only sold because clogging cats, giving poor mpg. Great truck. Great engine.
I had a 2019 5.0 F150. Engine ran great. But I did have the oil consumption issue. But I also had the loud ticking or knocking which sounded like it was coming from passenger side of engine. Couldn’t hear it driving down road and was hard to hear just sitting idling at a red light or where ever. Worse was sitting in a drive through at a fast food place or in garage where the knocking noise was bouncing off wall or something. I change my oil every 4000 to 5000 miles and used Mobil 1. I drove it appx 35000. 3 different dealers said it was normal and only actual possible reason I ever got was a fuel rail making the noise, and was told it was normal??!! Never had any problem other than noise. But it was very noticeable and loud. I finally couldn’t take it anymore and traded on a 2021 with 3.5 eco in jan of 2021 right before the price gouging started. It has been perfect and I love driving it. And can’t even hear it running. Any idea on what it could have been? Truck was perfect and drove fantastic. Just couldn’t take what sounded like a rod knocking.
If it was a rod knock you would of thought at least one of the dealers would of suspected that. In terms of fuel injector noise. I know my 6.4 hemi makes a metalic knocking noise at idle and thats just the fuel injectors. But its weird how at idle the noise was quiet. Not a bad decision to trade the truck in with the oil consumption.
Gen 1 coyote here, with 239k miles. I always set my oil life to 80%, after an oil change, and change it before it gets to 20%. I don't drive it much, so I only change it twice a year. Usually spring time, for the start of fishing season, and in the late fall, for deer season. I do wish Ford would bring back a pushrod V8 to the F150, like they did the Super Duty.
2018 F150 5.0 Love the engine and power but still uses about 2-2.5 quarts in 5k miles. Took it back to dealer…did updates years ago (was using more oil) they changed dipstick…did calm down some. Seems better using the Motorcraft 5-20 and change every 5k.
@@TheGettyAdventures yes it does suck for an expensive truck…after 76k I’m accustomed to it. Had a 2012 5.0 that used some also, probably about 1/2 as much as my 2018. Then our 2016 4Runner’s inefficient 4.0 engine doesn’t use a drop.
My friends 1989 Mustang 5.0 LX, has never had to add oil between changes. Old school push rod engine. 250,000 miles, still has original starter, alternator, water pump, clutch, radiator. Original set of brakes lasted 100,000 miles.
I just sold my 2013 5.7L Rock Warrior (111K miles) to my company as a work truck (One of our 2018 1500 work trucks has just been in the shop constantly at only 60k miles.) because it hasn't had any mechanical issues in spite of quite a bit of rugged use (and it saved us almost $30K over buying a new truck (you can do a lot of repairs for $30K)). I was unhappy that Toyota eliminated the 5.7 (which was engineered from the GM 5.7 from what I understand), so I bought an F-150 Tremor for myself and eventually settled on the 5.0L. Although my favorite muscle car was a 1971 426ci Hemi Cuda, I have had very bad luck with Daimler-Chrystler products (I still have a CJ-7 that is not running more than it is running). I started as a Ford guy, became a GM guy, and then bought my first Toyota. I know it will upset some, but my 2002 Taco is still my go-to recovery vehicle with almost 200k miles. I bought the Tremor 5.0 with the thought that I might supercharge it. Do you have any insight on the Ford-approved and sold Whipple supercharger kit? It would seem to eliminate the cylinder deactivation issue, and my truck already doesn't have the stop-start thingy. Obviously, I would lose the almost 20mpg combined that I am getting (which is crazy to me), but if the pros outweigh the cons I might do it. Peace, Love!!
I have a 2018 F-150 with 5 L coyote engine. My truck had the oil consumption issue & brought my truck into the dealership for the TSB update. Dealer told me it was a vacuum issue which caused oil consumption issues. Also changed out dipstick, oil& filter. So far I haven't noticed anymore oil consumption issues. My 2018 F-150 is a extra cab & had issue with the door lock freezing. Ford had a recall on this problem. I brought my truck into dealership to resolve this issue. FYI theirs a 10 yr timeline once you receive this recall to resolve this matter
My 19 was burning so much oil that you can’t even see oil on the dip stick, and this is after all the updates they did and the truck was well maintained
i have had a total of three for my company. 1 made it to 250k then we sold it (still ran great) the other 2 are around 120-150k right now and we plan on at least another 50k of service from both if not more. One was a 2011 and 2 2012s.
Have an ‘18 w/5.0 and excessive oil consumption issue. Been fighting Ford about this since we bought it 5 yrs ago. TSB all done, no change to oil consumption and finally, Ford decided to put a new engine in the truck. Been waiting for that to arrive for over 6 weeks now.
Is your truck still under warranty? Curious because I'm having similar issues and the dealership is outright evasive over any conversation approaching these symptoms. My truck is 2019 F150 5.0 w/84k miles. Thanks.
@@johnscott6745 We were able to get ours done just barely under the 5yr/60,000 mile warranty coverage. Took them about 3-4 months to actually get the engine from Ford, but it came through finally in Nov and installed over Thanksgiving time frame. Looks like you’re out of that warranty at this point with 84K on it. We had an oil consumption of 5.5 qts low when brought into the dealer for what we thought was a totally different issue last summer. They noticed blue smoke coming out of exhaust on start then checked the oil and found it that low. I had just added a qt less than 2300 miles before that so was totally surprised when they told us about how low it was. This triggered the new engine from Ford. Glad that we had been doing all of our oil changes at the dealer to that point as all of that was supporting documentation to Ford.
Wow on the oil, I haven't experienced that much of a problem, but it certainly burns oil. They've been evasive since I started asking questions 30k miles ago. First told me I'd need to leave the truck there and that they may not be able to look at it for 6 weeks, but I'd lose my spot in line if I didn't leave it and refused a loaner (while under warranty). I'm sure none of that convo was documented and again, I'm sure I'm SOL. Good luck with your replacement, glad to hear someone is getting their monies worth. @@davidjohnson8890
So my F150 was built 08/20 and just crossed the 60,000 mile threshold. I had 3500 miles on the most recent oil change (mostly highway travel) and the engine seemed a little rough. I never check the oil but I’m glad I did because the dip stick was dry! It took five (yes 5) quarts of oil to bring it back to the full mark. I love a spunky V8, but not sure I’ll go back with a 5.0 next time.
I have a 2011 f150 5.0. It's been a good truck. I did have to replace the rear end which I hear is a common problem so I went aftermarket. As far as engine I had to fix the common antifreeze leak from that t connection. While I was doing that I replaced the water pump, put in a new serpentine belt, new plugs and cleaned the mass airflow sensor and throttle body as you mentioned. All fluids have recently been changed expect the front diff because that's a pita! I'll probably tackle that this summer.
A coworker of mine did his front diff and he's been a licensed mechanic for like 20 years. it took him like 4 hours. he eventually just drilled and tapped a drain plug in the front cover for next time.
@@TheGettyAdventures yeah, I looked at it for about 20 seconds and gave up on it. I took it to a local mechanic to have the transmission serviced and asked him to do the front diff. When I picked it up he said "sorry but I'm doing that" haha. My plan is to get it nice and warmed up and I'm going to try to suck it out the best I can. Even if I get a little bit out I'll feel like I succeeded.
I've had a 2016 F150 FX4 since new and its been great for me. Sounds great too. I've had no problems out of it or anything on the truck actually. I'm very pleased with it.
Gotta throw this out there. My 14 year old 5.4 goes oil change to oil change without using a drop of oil and still runs as quietly as the day I bought it new with no major issues in that time ! For a motor with such a bad rep I sure got a good one but proper maintenance from day one has been key.
that is surprising to me...I would guess many people experience problems with these engines because they're doing 10k mile oil changes, although I have heard of them having issues with good maintenance too...my buddy is a Ford mechanic and every coyote or ecoboost engine he sees with issues has a lot of sludge build up
I have a 2019 Coyote that had the issue. TSB applied and the problem went away. But....... I had to put in a quart at 2200 miles today. Engine has 75K miles on it. Love the truck, love the engine. You should mention the issues with the 10 spd transmission. I've had the truck in 3 time for hard shifting when cold. 1st time they said it's normal. Then, they replaced a valve in the valve body. The last time not only would it shift very hard when cold (30 deg F), it slipped bad. This time they completely rebuilt the valve body. Thank God I had an extended warranty... So far so good.
It seems like almost everyone is still burning oil after the TSB which kind of sucks to hear. as for the transmission I've heard the ford 10 speeds are having issues with hard shifting. maybe I'll look into it.
Agree. The detailed explanations make it easier for non-engine guys like me to better understand. As for this engine I like it but I'm concerned about cylinder deactivation. Ditto GM and Ram deactivation.
2022 5.0 with 20k miles. No oil loss or burning. 5w30 synthetic blend. Change oil every 5k. Tow a 25ft jaco from Ohio to North Carolina 4 times a year. Never used oil
Never heard of the rod bearing or head gasket issue. I worked at a Ford dealer back when the 1st gen came out. One of the issues was cylinder wall scoring, and oil consumption has always been a thing. I had a 2011 gen 1 5.0, and I ran the shit out of it lol but it always ran good.
A belt driven oil pump just doesn’t sit right with me I like knowing my engines are going to last and ideally be easy to maintain also after working on engines for almost two decades now I’ve decided any engine with over six feet of timing chains I’ll just steer clear of
I own a 2020 f150 with the 5.0. It sucked down oil until I had them flash the PCM. It drives way better and doesn't guzzle oil. I think the new rings and cylinders sealed too well and created too strong of a vacuum like ford claims. I think that because the Mustangs with the same cylinder treatment don't see the issue. The mustangs use a different PCV valve that's more restrictive (has a smaller hole diameter) so some f150 owners would just buy the mustang PCV valve for their truck and swap it out, which solved the issue entirely for most.
2011-2013 has inferior intake valves. They supposedly updated the valves sometime in 2013...but.. My 2014 built Oct.14 developed it. Lost compression on 2 cylinders. Had to rebuild both heads at 150km...my buddy at the machine shop said they're coming in like clockwork with Tulip'd valves. Mostly Cyl 4 & 8. The new Gen 3s all burn excessive oil.
I'm looking to get a long bed F-150 to carry a 2000 pound truck camper. At first I was planning on getting a 7.3 F-250, but after diving into the specs, I realized I can easily get away with a F-150 as long as I stick with a reg cab XL or XLT, which I was gonna do anyway. I'm leaning toward a F-150 XLT 5.0 with payload package. The extra tq of the 3.5 is a consideration, but turbos tend to be problematic as they age and long term reliability is my top priority.
@@ericlovelis5127 Which iteration of the 3.5 did you ow? This engine has been revised multiple times and is a much better engine today than when it was first put in the F150. That said, I think the 2.7 ecoboost is a better engine than the 3.5 because it's built much stronger, almost like a diesel. It'd actually get the 2.7 if it had a bit more torque.
I saw a video recently from a Ford tech that brought up a few good points about the oil consumption issue. The first thing was that the latest TSB seems to fix the issue for 90%+ of owners. The main point he brought up was that older people are the only ones regularly checking their oil levels. This comes from the old days when oil leaks and consumption was more common and electronics to monitor the oil were pretty much non-existent. The engine is designed to work within a range and if you're not seeing warning lights, you're not likely going to see issues that would result from low oil.
Drove from Illinois down to Orlando Florida. Down i55 to New Orleans then over. The truck used 1.5 quarts of oil. Had the new dipstick, etc. done before the trip. Going back Monday to the shop.
A big unintended advantage of cylinder deactivation is the high volume billet oil pump, and that oil pump is driven by a kevlar belt rather than the junk cam gears. This is a huge plus for those of us that want to put a blower on it. And Ford made the cylinder deactivation simple, unlike GM's hack job that destroy lifters and cams
We just had the engine and transmission replaced at a cost of $25k in one of our work trucks, a 2021 F150 with 220,000km. It had oil consumption problems from day one and hard shifting that the dealer could not fix.
I agree with you consumption problems on the 21 fortunately I have not experienced it, but I do have a lot of problems with the 10 speed transmission. It’s been replaced completely as well as a torque converter rebuild twice yet vibration slowing down coming up to stop chatters as the new joint, not parallel, etc., etc.might be something you can check out
I have the 2018 version of the engine, and the oil consumption is as you describe. I wish Ford had told me about it instead of letting me discover it (belatedly) by myself. Other than that, the engine has been trouble-free. However, I believe the ten-speed transmission has a "slushy" feel to it that the six-speed it replaced did not have. I wish I could have ordered a manual - I would have accepted a small loss of mpg for it.
2020 F150 here, ironically i just learned of this issue and decided to check the dipstick. 4.5qts low with 25% oil life remaining. No change in performance/temp etc...
Interesting that a partial or complete cure is a new dipstick pcv valve and switch from 5w20 to 5w30 engine oil. It helped on my 2018 but then again I never got the pcm updated because with the 3.55 gears it gets 20-23mpg! I use Schaeffer's Supreme 9000 a true synthetic oil 13.01 a quart and change my oil around 10000 miles until I get 100,000 miles then I will change around 7,500 miles. This is a 2022 F150 5.0 XLT RCSB 4x4 and has 4.10 with torsen front and 4.09 with yukon posi in rear with 22x9 Ford aluminum wheels with 285x 55r22 Yokohama GO15 tires. This pickup rips. My son now owns my 2018 F150 5.0 SCab with 113,000 + miles and runs great - no problems with either truck and they are and were never babied by me My 2022 has almost 39,000 miles gets around 18-19mpg @ 60- 65mph winter and 19-20 in summer
I have a 2019 F150 5.0 v8 with 38,500km, my check engine came after the engine got shaking, my mechanic told me that is an issue with one of the valves, plus the oil consumption is very high. I checked the recall from Ford and my truck is not in there, but I stronger believe my truck is part of it. Few words I just dropped my truck to the dealer and will see what they will say about it. I owned F150 before without any issues, until now.
Just had oil change today at ford dealer. Told them I put in 2 quarts in 4k miles . They pulled plugs and scoped cylinders and found 1 and 2 had scoring on walls . They didn't know why but said that's where my oil is going and if I want to fix it I'd need a new motor. Currently 80k miles on truck . 2018 f150 5.0 v8
Great video but it would be helpful to know at what mileage you might be seeing these problems arise. Like, do bearings or head gaskets fail after 10k miles or 100k? Also, under what use conditions such as tracking or towing heavy trailers could you expect to see failures.
I owned a 2020 F150 with the 5.0 Used 2.5 quarts per 5000 miles. Had the TSB done. Did not help. Also had the valve body replaced on the 10 speed transmission. Did not help the hard shifts. These are the two major issues I had. There were several other minor issues. I traded it off when it had a little less than 36000 miles. Was very disappointed with the 5.0
I have a 2019 F150 with the 5L V8 and have had many oil consumption problems. Two times it was in to be reprogrammed to fix the excessive oil consumption (1 quart every 1,000 or so miles). I now have it in the they said the sulfur content in fuel breaks down the cylinder wall coating. The fix this time is to have a brand new engine put in, luckily I have an extended warranty on the powertrain. The problem is the Ford service at the dealership said it took 8 to 9 months to fix the last truck they had in for the same problem. Obviously I am not happy about having to wait. Not sure if anyone else has a similar situation or have experienced that long of a wait.
Interestingly, this engine had it's oil viscosity changed in Australia after 1 year of running it there, from 5w20 to 5w30. Ford changed it from in NA from 5w20 to 5w30 with the 4th gen - seems they know it should run 5w30, but no longer need the MPG gain from 20 now they have cylinder deactivation.
You're absolutely right if you look in the owner's manual it recommends if u live in a hot climate or tow running 5w30 and if you talk to mechanics or Ford engineers they recommend 5w30 the 5w20 is just to thin especially when towing or running the 5.0 hard
@@f2cmadmaxx oh thats weird my gt manual says 5w30 for racing towing or severe Duty and 5w20 for fuel mileage. That's why I assumed they all said it maybe my car came from out of the states. thanks for the info
@@trackpackgt877 Oh, yes the Mustang manual contains other info for 'track use' and that's allowed, but it also should say switch back to 20 as soon as you're off the track. The engine will run a 50, also mentioned in the manual.
@@f2cmadmaxx A 50 weight I didn't see that I really only glanced at it seen i could run 5w30 and then I ended up switching. So then I dug into a little bit more and seen about the cafe ratings or whatever there called then a friend of mine has a F-150 he said it recommends 5w30 when towing but like you said recommend switching right back to 5w20 when not towing. Point of it is that leads me to believe a 5w 30 is better for these motors I really appreciate the info buddy and enjoyed the conversation
Have an 18 with an 5.0. It burnt about a quart every 4k miles when it was new. Maybe at around 40k miles it slowed to a quart every 5k miles. I’m at around 70k miles and it’s down to a halft quart every 5k miles. For mine it just took a really long time for everything to seat. I never had the update done.
@@captainbill8241 well I've seen guys have their engines replaced, then still have the oil consumption, then find out they need their dipstick replaced at the dealer under TSB on their second engine and get the wrong dipstick the third time. To only return the twentieth time for the fourth replacement to finally get the dipstick and fix the issue.
I know the Nissan Titan is the red headed step child of the pickup truck world but would you be willing to review the 5.6 v8 in the titan? Specifically in the Titan XD. It seems like an overlooked and underrated truck.
Great video!! I purchased my 2020 F150 5.0L engine with 64K km's and started suspecting heavy oil consumption after going thru an oil change etc. It was brought into the dealer, they did change the oil/filter and reprogrammed the PCM. After 2,5000 km's my level had dropped to the bottom of the cross-hatched section on the stick. It is schedule to go in once again for further diag next week. Fortunately it is still covered under the Ford powertrain warranty.
Just a note. For the Gen 14 they upped the oil thickness to use from 5W-20 to 5W-30. According to the manual the minium type you should use is a synthetic blend. Ford recommends oil changes every 10,000 miles or whenever your truck tells you (it takes towing into consideration). I haven't had any excess oil consumption in my 20,000 miles on my 2021. I'm surprised you didn't mention that they did away with the transmission cooler and now just use the internal water cooling for the transmission. I haven't had any issues with towing 5,000 lbs once a month. Cam phasers are known to go out in all the engines, not just the 5.0. At least on the previous generation.
Everyone recommends 10k and that is probably for EPA regulations and so they can advertise the cost of ownership is lower. I'd still do oil every 3-6k fully synthetic so sludge doesn't build up. Mostly 5-6k unless you drive really short distances regularly, then do 3k.
My 2018 used oil, right on the ragged edge of engine replacement. Changed from 5-20 oil to 5-30 and the problem went away. Always use MotorCraft semisynthetic.
I have a 2019 XLT 5.0. I had oil consumption issue and 2 dealers told me losing 3 quarts for 3000 miles was normal. The 3rd dealer said they knew the issue and replaced the dipstick type and something with the filler. Now I don't lose any noticable amount
I have a 2021 F-150 that I have to add oil between oil changes. My dealership has an oil consumption test and will be starting that on the next oil change. I do haul an 8,000lb travel trailer sometimes that may be causing the excess consumption.
9:35 I have a 2020 F-150 and am going through 3-5 qt of oil every 3 months. Just found out about the service bulletin, so will make an appointment and pray it gets fixed. If not, I’ll be suing Ford or joining the class action suit
I've got a 2013 with the Gen 1 Coyote with 141k miles. Great engine for me. I've had some minor things to replace like the water pump (90k miles is common issue) and oil pan gasket. Neither was difficult since there is plenty of room to work under the hood. 5k oil changes. Overall I love the truck, it has held up really well, and the motor has been great. My question for Alex would be: If I ever have to replace the motor, could I replace it with the Gen 2 Coyote? My father-in-law had a 2015 with the Gen 2 coyote and the bigger valves seemed to really wake the engine up.
second gen engines seem to be really solid units! I'm honestly not too sure on if you could simply drop the second gen engine in without issue. I would think at least you would need to change your powertrain computer and harness.
I had a 2018 with the coyote engine. Ford put a new engine at 29000km because of oil consumption. The new engine was a 2019 model and claimed hear they fixed the problem in 2019. Turns out that 5he oil consumption was even worse than the original. That is where they changed the dipstick along with the reprogram. It DID NOT fix the problem. What they actually did is change the range of the add mark and full mark on the dipstick. It went from 1 litre between the marks to 1.9 litres between the add and full. Thy said that as long as the oil falls under the add and full mark. I had measured the two dipstick’s side by side. Before hey took the old dipstick away. I’ve since gotten rid of the truck and bought a 2022 power boost. Now that is an engine. Does not use a single drop of oil. And fuel economy and power is amazing. 430 hp and 570 pounds torque. Highway fuel economy sits at 9.0 litres per hundred, providing you don’t drive it like a mad man.
I had an old 5.4 in my Lincoln truck and it never burned oil and I ran the hell out of it. The big problem was the spark plug issue which I did the replacement and after that still no oil burning like my 2018 and now my 2019 with the 5.0. This is what I heard that the mustangs had a different oil pump gears that fed more oil mainly when at lower rpms. Why the pickup 5.0s dont have the same oil pump gears is beyond me. The other thing is that as long as your on a long trip, I went over 2k miles and no oil burn issue. Here in the city with the stop and go it will burn oil. It will burn about a quart between the oil changes. I understand that the new fix was a different oil dip stick and remap the computer, I think the dip stick is shorter or longer cause they do have about 8 quarts of oil so if you measure it will still show no oil consumption . The guy never did say what specific the new TSB does.
Yes 2020 5.0 still have oil burn issues. I’m currently getting an engine replacement under warranty for this oil burn issue issue and cylinder scoring.
What a Fantastic video. Been looking for a video like this for a while. Hoping to get 300k out of my '15 gen 2 Coyote with 135k. I abuse it consistently when it has been warmed up after 20 mins or so. Been hearing a new tick noise that keeps up with RPMs. Got Oil analyzed and everything checks out to average or better wear and the anti-wear additives are better than average...
I have the Gen 2 (2015 F150) 5.0. 297K miles and still runs great. Has a small tick when warm. Not certain if a rod bearing. The noise is not coming from under the valve cover, so a rod noise is possible. If so, I may have to slide a new rod bearing in when the spring comes. Not fun but doable with the engine in the truck.
@@Jerry-rd9my Yeah Mine sounds like it’s top end. I’m starting to think it’s either lifter/follower or cam phaser. Definitely on passenger side. 145k now. No difference in performance as of yet. Might drive it till it blows unless the sound gets worse.
I have a 2020 F150 with the coyote 5L engine. I have an oil consumption issue, a loss of 1 quart of oil every 1500 miles. Ford Service has ordered a new engine to resolve the issue.
Yaa see thats not terrible but still that should not happen. Silver lining is burning a little oil is not catastrophic to the engine so just keep topping her up and you'll be fine!
@@TheGettyAdventures I perform all my own service and have been using Valvoline full synthetic 5w20, I’m considering switching to Amsoil. I already use Amsoil in my motorcycle and our standby generator and have noticed the motorcycle runs cooler and the generator starts easier.
No my friend a better seal at the bore via rings to bore will create more vacuum which in turn will pull more oil into the chamber. A better seal at the bore effects the combustion chamber. On the intake stroke it will pull harder so your thought on the spray lines bores being a loser fit will have less combustion chamber vacuum
My 2020 burns oil. 1 qt every 1500 miles. I have done every "fix" and still use oil. Every local deal says this is normal and Ford made it to use oil. Can't make this up.
I have a 2020 F150 with 48k miles. I've had excessive oil consumption for several months. Ford reprogramed the PCM, replaced the PCV and now they are replacing the whole engine (it's back ordered) so I must not be the only one with issues. I've been burning approx. 1 quart of oil every 600 miles. I'm not sure how much I will even trust the replaced engine.
Got a 2023 tremor with a 5.0 in it, and the oil burning issue doesn’t seem to be a problem. I was paranoid about that and check it every 500 miles just be safe and over protective. The pressure gauge always says it’s low but the dip stick says the oil so full soooo
Oil pressure and oil level do not always go hand in hand. Of course, when levels get too low the pressure will drop. But, just because the level is high doesn’t mean pressure will be equally high. If internal bearings are worn, for example, you can be at proper level but pressure will be low(er).
My 2022 XLT with 7500 miles doesn't use any oil. I change the oil every 5000 miles & so far I love the coyote engine.
yep, my 22 lariat 5.0 does not use any oil and i tow a trailer with a bronco on it from kansas to utah over the rockies.. so far no issue.
Government always ruins everything. Cylinder deactivation is the dumbest thing every created for the engine.
Easy little plug deactivates it
probably a tuner you can use to "delete it"
Agreed
The science behind it is pretty sound, the practicality of it is dumb as fuck lol
Eh govt doesnt ruin everything maybe some over reach in mileage and emmissions but without govt no roads, no bridges, no fish left in ocean, no garbage pick up, no security so probably be ruzzian tanks running around for pootlers land grab so be careful what u wish for
Bought a 2014 F150 5.0 in 2017 with 36k then sold it in 2022 with 164k. Did routine maintenance. Engine was bullet proof and fun to drive. Only thing that went wrong was a coolant leak at the water pump hose. Great engine.
I have a 2020 F-150 with the 5.0 V8 and it uses a quart of oil in 2000 miles. The Ford dealership performed the update (oil/filter change, new dipstick etc...), but it didn't seem to help. I have 67,000 miles on the truck. Great truck...but that oil thing bothers me. The dealers don't seem to care much. Other than that, this truck does everything I need! I enjoyed watching your videos as well!
Thank You,
Randy T.
Sr. You have finally answered my mysterious flaw on my 2018 Ford F150 5.0 since I purchased my truck back in 2018 I noticed I quart of oil burning with in an oil changed Ford told me it was a normal issue. I knew it was not normal and now because of your professional knowledge I know the true answer. Thank you Sr.
Did you get a PCM reflash? Im taking my 2018 5.0 into the dealer this week.
I have a 2017 f150 5 liter and the great 6 speed trans with 105,000 miles and so far have not had any kind of issues with it. I run Pennzoil Platinum oil and replace around every 7500 miles. I'm old school and told the salesman that wanted to sell me the Ecoboost and told him rather have the extra two pistons rather than the extra cost and high dollar repair or replacement on the two turbos and equipment down the road. I tow a thirty five hundred pound cargo trailer with it about 3000 miles to the west mountains every year and it pulls it like a champ. Dealer has been wanting me to trade in for a 2023 model but will not because Ford screwed the current 5 liter engine up when they went direct injection, auto stop start, cylinder deactivation and the ten speed transmission.
I have the 2018 F150 5.0L. Before the service bulletin was burning 1 qt per 1100-1400 miles. After the service bulletin is 1 qt per 4000 miles. Since I change the oil by then, never have to add any between changes anymore. On the plus side, I love the power. Especially at high speeds. The 70-100mph passing power is amazing! And, the fuel economy for such a powerful full size truck is great too. My average, which includes both city and highway driving is 20 mpg. Pure highway is 22mpg!
Hello. I also have a 2018 with the 5.0 and 10 speed and I do really like the truck. Mine too burns about the same oil as yours.
When you mention the service bulletin, what exactly was done, and did the dealer handle the repair, or did you do it on your own? How many miles approximately did you do the service bulletin repair at?
The service bulletin is a couple things. Primarily a software update the prevents the throttle plate from closing entirely during deceleration. This lowers the amount of manifold vacuum produced. Which prevents sucking the oil into the cylinders. Additionally they change the dipstick with one remarked levels. Wish it didn’t consume any oil at all, but I can live with a quart/4000 miles. No other issues at all at 78,000.@@zachis4wheeling
I also have the 2018 F150 with the 5.0L. I need to add a quart about every 4,000 miles. I bought this as a certified pre-owned about three years ago, now has about 75,000 miles. We only put about 8,000 miles a year, some towing with a 3,000 lb teardrop trailer. No issues. We get around 15-16 mpg in city driving. Depending on the terrain, we get around 12 - 13 mpg towing. Driving up a lot of high mountain passes it drops to around 10 mpg.
Had a 2013 & put 360000km hard AB oil field kms on it & the engine was flawless. Changed the oil with full synthetic @ 10000km religiously with no engine issues. Seems like the cylinder deactivation & the piston liners seem suspect…
Piston liners are very interesting to me! and wow 360k in oil country is no joke!
2021 - 23 cylinder deactivation can be disabled with a tune and default to v8 mode once disabled. The mechanical parts have shown little to no issues once deactivated with a tune. The liners have been holding up rather well, but I have personally seen casting issues in the block in gen 3, and ring issues in gen 3. Gen 3.5 seems to be pretty decent so far.
The Coyote 5.0 Gen1 doesn’t have the Cylinder Deactivation System in it. It’s wasn’t available until 2021 is what I read. I own the 2013 Gen1.
I have a 2018 5.0 with 60k with zero oil consumption. I change the oil every 4K miles using Mobile 1 with BG MOA. I use BG EPR before every oil change which helps clean the rings and keeping them tight. I love the truck and have had no issues, I would be lying however if I said all these videos don’t make me nervous and cautious!
I have been pulling a trailer ..3 500 miles ( pulling trailer) now it eats oil
I have a 2022 F150 Lariat with the 5.0L. I’ve heard a lot of noise about cylinder deactivation and people’s hesitation about it, but I have yet to hear of anyone having issues related to it since Ford put it on this engine. Maybe time will tell. I’m hopeful that Ford took into account lessons learned from GM and Ram.
Any trouble with oil consumption or the like? I’m seriously considering one of these trucks so I’d like to hear from a owner
I'm with you. I'm not waiting the full 10,000 miles to change my oil. I don't care what type of additive packet is in that oil. I simply don't trust it and everything seems to have a turbo on it now a days. As soon as one of my vehicles gets down to fifty percent oil life i change it. Just personal preference.
Get with the times. Tons and tons and tons of research and real world testing has proven 10k oil changes are perfectly fine with synthetic oil.
I’d rather change it too often than not enough.
I’ve got a 2007 F150 4.6 that’s had oil changes every 10k mobile 1 5w20 full synthetic with 212K on the odometer and still going strong. The only work I had to do was replace the AC. The truck is solid and used as a company service truck now.
Do an oil analysis test at 5,000 miles and see what it says.
I bought a 2022 5.0L used in Jan 2023 with 4,400 miles. Has a little over 30K miles now and no engine issues. Even under heavy towing I have no oil loss.
I bought a brand new 2017 F150 4X4 FX4 XLT 302A 5.0L coyote 2nd generation. I take it to the dealership for all maintenance, and i have them change the oil and rotate the tires every 4000 -5000 miles. It has been rock solid since i bought and I now have 80,000 miles on my truck.
I have a 2020 F150 5.0 and I just had the engine replaced at 60,000 miles by dealer due to the oil consumption. Luckily I bought the 100,000 mile warranty.
My 20 is using 3 qts every 5 thousand miles. What was yours?
About the same@@johnrutherford407
Daamm you got lucky with the engine swap
ive got a 2014 with 185k miles and it runs perfect zero problems super happy with it i honestly dont expect any new vehicle to last over 150k miles because of how many bad engines have been produced lately
Said no Toyota owner
I have a 2015 5.0 and love it, not a single issue does not burn any oil runs great
I have a 2017 5.0, is it normal to feel a slight shake/shudder at idle sometimes? The 2024 5.0 I test drove did the same thing, so I wonder if it's a 5.0 quirk.
I have a 2021 5.0 in my F150. 70,000 km on it. Not a single issue. Have been doing my own oil changes every 10,000km with no oil loss.
Awesome to hear Nick!
I appreciate these channels and reviews but man it freaks me out being in the market for a retirement truck! So many things to navigate and be aware of!
If you’re buying a used 5 L you should be very concerned about it since many of the ones sitting on the car lot used were traded because people were tired of dealing with oil consumption that the dealer couldn’t or wouldn’t fix.
Anything else I should keep an eye on? I've watched this video a few times now as well as others and I'm just gathering info. Looking at a 2019 5.0 with 76k and I'd like it to last for quite some time. I don't drive MUCH and will rarely tow anything
That was my intention when I bought my 19 5.0. FWIW, the only reason I still have it is because I feel guilty passing it on to someone else. Oil consumption, suspected cam phasers (I have changed oil and done routine maintenance religiously), stalling coming to rolling stop, replaced rear end, TCM fault codes, you name it at 80k miles. Anecdotal evidence, but I'd stay as far away as possible if I were you. Dealership is less than helpful in advising, 2 independent shops have told me it's got some bad signs, could run for quite a while, could be a paperweight next week. I will personally never own another Ford product after this experience. Just my 2 cents.@@frankpocean
I have 2015 f150 coyote which is the 2nd gen coyote. . Bought brand new and have 152,000 miles on it now. Replaced water pump about 500 miles ago. Always change oil at 5,000 miles and it doesn’t use any oil still. Been extremely reliable truck for me so far.
I've been a chevy guy my entire life and just bought a 2020 F150 with the 5.0. Dealer is putting tires on it so I haven't picked it up yet. Hopefully I won't be disapointed. I sure as hell enjoyed the test drive!
My 2022 does not consume a drop of oil. Even when I went longer than my usual 5K oil change. Currently at 21K miles. I also am glad to see a lack of issues with cylinder deactivation popping up the way it did with Dodge and GM. While never optimal I think Fords CD is a better setup than Dodge or GM.
What mpg are you getting? No oil consumption issues here either. But the cylinder deactivation kinda scares me a bit. Do you notice a difference in mpg with the C.D? I'm just glad Ford doesn't use the same cd set up that Chevy does.
I heard that Ford went with the bigger oil pump from the Godzilla engine (the reason for the belt-driven pump?) when they introduced the CD feature on the 4th-gen Coyote to eliminate the issues found on other brands with CD.
@@SudburySaturdayNight1787 If you're concerned about CD, you can disable it by switching the Drive Mode to Sport. You'll have to switch to Sport on every start up, but I routinely dial over to Sport mode and set the transmission gear limiter to 7 when driving around town and on short highway trips (8, 9, & 10 are overdrive gears and the truck rarely, if ever, shifts above 7 without gear limiting when driving around town below 50MPH), and It makes the truck more responsive with quicker accelerator response & shifts. I only see a 1MPG gain in Normal Mode.
As someone who owns a Dodge, it seems as if the "cylinder deactivation" issues are more of an oiling issue at idle rather than a cylinder deactivation or parts quality issue. Dodge started to have issues with lifters in 2009, when VVT was added to the engine and can happen on all HEMIs with or without MDS. Cylinder 5 seems more common to fail rather than the rest, which is a non-MDS cylinder. Also, Dodge introduced cylinder deactivation in 2006 and the earlier 2006-2008 engines with MDS but without VVT do not have lifter issues like the 2009+.
Also, Dodge lifter issues, due to it being an oiling issue at idle, are a later in life issue. Many engines make it to 150k+ without issues. My 2015 has 206k on it's original lifters. The main ways to avoid lifter failure on a Dodge is avoid idling and short cycling if you don't want to replace the oil pump for the hellcat part. It also seems as if lifter failure is worse on the earlier engines, with weaker oil pumps that pump lower pressures at idle. GM lifters seem to be a poor quality control issue, because I've heard of many GM lifters failing very early in the engine's life. Like as early as the first 10k miles on the engine. Though only time will tell how a vehicle will last and time will tell if Ford's cylinder deactivation will give the engine issues.
I have a 2018 xlt 5.0. I started getting oil consumption around 50k miles. It’s pretty bad, after an oil change it takes about 2k miles and most of the oil is gone. Fortunately, my truck is still under warranty and the dealer has just ordered me a new motor. Keep an eye on it and do what you can to not void your warranty.
Thanks for the updates. Changed my oil last night in a 2018 f150 coyote. Even though I had the tsb completed almost 2 years ago this engine still burns 2-1/2 quarts in 4000 miles on full synthetic Penzoil Ultra. I change the oil at 50% oil life . I currently have just under 50,000 miles. The front wheel bearing was replaced a 1000 miles ago and the locks still freeze even after the repair update. I like the truck but it does have some issues.
Thanks for the info Scott! That's a lot of oil burnt in 4,000 miles. not really good. from what I'm gathering from the comments most people who got the TSB done still experience oil consumption which sucks.
I had to put same in for 4000 miles. Juat had oil change at shop and they scoped the cylinders and found scoring in 1 and 2 on cylinder walls and claim that's where the oil is going.
@@clarktraub4540 Interesting. Can they do anything about it with the spray cylinders? thanks
I had the updates done to my 2018.The biggest scam ever.They put a longer dipstick in and the 2 marks that indicate down 1 ltr were spaced apart the amount of the extra length of the dipstick and added an extra ltr of oil.When the stick is down to the 1 ltr mark ,your actually down 2 ltrs. I sold my truck at 32000 kms .The new owner will not know the differnce unless they top up the oil between changes
They did that with my 2019 but also reprogrammed the computer. Problem was solved.@@garybuckley-bb4bs
Got a 14 5.0 here when we bought it new my brother and a friend helped me remove the cab and box / components required to upgrade the stock chassis and frame it was a a lot of fun long hours but made the truck that much more reliable we sprayed it with a spray liner coating to protect the frame and body while it continues being a plow truck it never let us down but keep it mind that co insides with regular scheduled maintenance.
Tried that once. It doesn't work. Salt and stuff end up under the coating. On my it ended up eating the bed side frame rails. Welded frame and sold. Didn't dare wonder what was under the rest of the coating. I actually end up going about 2 ft up with it all around the outside of the truck as well. Used bedliner spray coated everything. Nope. Still rusted
17 with the 5.0 never had a single issue bought it new. I would never sell it because I don’t feel like I could replace it.
I have heard multiple people talk about their 17 5L and how they have had zero issues. Must be a good year for these engines!
15 through 17 best years for the 5.0
The only reason I want one is for the aluminum body.....no rust for my last truck on earth.
Never cared for the modular engines with those pesky timing chain tensioner problems.
Right now, I have an '05 Hemi with 184,000 miles still going strong....1 owner.
But I need to catch it before the damn cam/lifter destruction.
My old 14 f150 coyote ran for 270000 +. 100k was spent pulling 7500lb camper nationwide. When sold it ran perfect. Only sold because clogging cats, giving poor mpg. Great truck. Great engine.
I had a 2019 5.0 F150. Engine ran great. But I did have the oil consumption issue. But I also had the loud ticking or knocking which sounded like it was coming from passenger side of engine. Couldn’t hear it driving down road and was hard to hear just sitting idling at a red light or where ever. Worse was sitting in a drive through at a fast food place or in garage where the knocking noise was bouncing off wall or something. I change my oil every 4000 to 5000 miles and used Mobil 1. I drove it appx 35000. 3 different dealers said it was normal and only actual possible reason I ever got was a fuel rail making the noise, and was told it was normal??!! Never had any problem other than noise. But it was very noticeable and loud. I finally couldn’t take it anymore and traded on a 2021 with 3.5 eco in jan of 2021 right before the price gouging started. It has been perfect and I love driving it. And can’t even hear it running. Any idea on what it could have been? Truck was perfect and drove fantastic. Just couldn’t take what sounded like a rod knocking.
If it was a rod knock you would of thought at least one of the dealers would of suspected that. In terms of fuel injector noise. I know my 6.4 hemi makes a metalic knocking noise at idle and thats just the fuel injectors. But its weird how at idle the noise was quiet. Not a bad decision to trade the truck in with the oil consumption.
Gen 1 coyote here, with 239k miles. I always set my oil life to 80%, after an oil change, and change it before it gets to 20%. I don't drive it much, so I only change it twice a year. Usually spring time, for the start of fishing season, and in the late fall, for deer season. I do wish Ford would bring back a pushrod V8 to the F150, like they did the Super Duty.
The new 6.8 baby godzilla 💪
2018 F150 5.0
Love the engine and power but still uses about 2-2.5 quarts in 5k miles.
Took it back to dealer…did updates years ago (was using more oil) they changed dipstick…did calm down some. Seems better using the Motorcraft 5-20 and change every 5k.
almost everyone is saying that after the TSB their trucks still burns oil. kind of sucks.
@@TheGettyAdventures yes it does suck for an expensive truck…after 76k I’m accustomed to it. Had a 2012 5.0 that used some also, probably about 1/2 as much as my 2018. Then our 2016 4Runner’s inefficient 4.0 engine doesn’t use a drop.
My friends 1989 Mustang 5.0 LX, has never had to add oil between changes. Old school push rod engine. 250,000 miles, still has original starter, alternator, water pump, clutch, radiator. Original set of brakes lasted 100,000 miles.
I just sold my 2013 5.7L Rock Warrior (111K miles) to my company as a work truck (One of our 2018 1500 work trucks has just been in the shop constantly at only 60k miles.) because it hasn't had any mechanical issues in spite of quite a bit of rugged use (and it saved us almost $30K over buying a new truck (you can do a lot of repairs for $30K)). I was unhappy that Toyota eliminated the 5.7 (which was engineered from the GM 5.7 from what I understand), so I bought an F-150 Tremor for myself and eventually settled on the 5.0L. Although my favorite muscle car was a 1971 426ci Hemi Cuda, I have had very bad luck with Daimler-Chrystler products (I still have a CJ-7 that is not running more than it is running). I started as a Ford guy, became a GM guy, and then bought my first Toyota. I know it will upset some, but my 2002 Taco is still my go-to recovery vehicle with almost 200k miles.
I bought the Tremor 5.0 with the thought that I might supercharge it. Do you have any insight on the Ford-approved and sold Whipple supercharger kit? It would seem to eliminate the cylinder deactivation issue, and my truck already doesn't have the stop-start thingy. Obviously, I would lose the almost 20mpg combined that I am getting (which is crazy to me), but if the pros outweigh the cons I might do it. Peace, Love!!
I have a 2018 F-150 with 5 L coyote engine. My truck had the oil consumption issue & brought my truck into the dealership for the TSB update. Dealer told me it was a vacuum issue which caused oil consumption issues. Also changed out dipstick, oil& filter. So far I haven't noticed anymore oil consumption issues. My 2018 F-150 is a extra cab & had issue with the door lock freezing. Ford had a recall on this problem. I brought my truck into dealership to resolve this issue. FYI theirs a 10 yr timeline once you receive this recall to resolve this matter
My 19 was burning so much oil that you can’t even see oil on the dip stick, and this is after all the updates they did and the truck was well maintained
i have had a total of three for my company. 1 made it to 250k then we sold it (still ran great) the other 2 are around 120-150k right now and we plan on at least another 50k of service from both if not more. One was a 2011 and 2 2012s.
Have an ‘18 w/5.0 and excessive oil consumption issue. Been fighting Ford about this since we bought it 5 yrs ago. TSB all done, no change to oil consumption and finally, Ford decided to put a new engine in the truck. Been waiting for that to arrive for over 6 weeks now.
good luck bud. I got put on a list in february and it just came in.
Is your truck still under warranty? Curious because I'm having similar issues and the dealership is outright evasive over any conversation approaching these symptoms. My truck is 2019 F150 5.0 w/84k miles. Thanks.
@@johnscott6745 We were able to get ours done just barely under the 5yr/60,000 mile warranty coverage. Took them about 3-4 months to actually get the engine from Ford, but it came through finally in Nov and installed over Thanksgiving time frame. Looks like you’re out of that warranty at this point with 84K on it. We had an oil consumption of 5.5 qts low when brought into the dealer for what we thought was a totally different issue last summer. They noticed blue smoke coming out of exhaust on start then checked the oil and found it that low. I had just added a qt less than 2300 miles before that so was totally surprised when they told us about how low it was. This triggered the new engine from Ford. Glad that we had been doing all of our oil changes at the dealer to that point as all of that was supporting documentation to Ford.
Wow on the oil, I haven't experienced that much of a problem, but it certainly burns oil. They've been evasive since I started asking questions 30k miles ago. First told me I'd need to leave the truck there and that they may not be able to look at it for 6 weeks, but I'd lose my spot in line if I didn't leave it and refused a loaner (while under warranty). I'm sure none of that convo was documented and again, I'm sure I'm SOL. Good luck with your replacement, glad to hear someone is getting their monies worth. @@davidjohnson8890
I have a gen 2 coyote 2015 f150. I'm not seeing any of these problems, guess I'm just lucky. But I use it for a work truck I've had no problems yet.
People seem to be having really good luck with the first and second gen engine! Glad the engine is running well!
So my F150 was built 08/20 and just crossed the 60,000 mile threshold. I had 3500 miles on the most recent oil change (mostly highway travel) and the engine seemed a little rough. I never check the oil but I’m glad I did because the dip stick was dry! It took five (yes 5) quarts of oil to bring it back to the full mark. I love a spunky V8, but not sure I’ll go back with a 5.0 next time.
I have a 2011 f150 5.0. It's been a good truck. I did have to replace the rear end which I hear is a common problem so I went aftermarket. As far as engine I had to fix the common antifreeze leak from that t connection. While I was doing that I replaced the water pump, put in a new serpentine belt, new plugs and cleaned the mass airflow sensor and throttle body as you mentioned. All fluids have recently been changed expect the front diff because that's a pita! I'll probably tackle that this summer.
A coworker of mine did his front diff and he's been a licensed mechanic for like 20 years. it took him like 4 hours. he eventually just drilled and tapped a drain plug in the front cover for next time.
@@TheGettyAdventures yeah, I looked at it for about 20 seconds and gave up on it. I took it to a local mechanic to have the transmission serviced and asked him to do the front diff. When I picked it up he said "sorry but I'm doing that" haha. My plan is to get it nice and warmed up and I'm going to try to suck it out the best I can. Even if I get a little bit out I'll feel like I succeeded.
I've had a 2016 F150 FX4 since new and its been great for me. Sounds great too. I've had no problems out of it or anything on the truck actually. I'm very pleased with it.
Exact same. It's been flawless
Gotta throw this out there. My 14 year old 5.4 goes oil change to oil change without using a drop of oil and still runs as quietly as the day I bought it new with no major issues in that time ! For a motor with such a bad rep I sure got a good one but proper maintenance from day one has been key.
that is surprising to me...I would guess many people experience problems with these engines because they're doing 10k mile oil changes, although I have heard of them having issues with good maintenance too...my buddy is a Ford mechanic and every coyote or ecoboost engine he sees with issues has a lot of sludge build up
I have a 2019 Coyote that had the issue. TSB applied and the problem went away. But....... I had to put in a quart at 2200 miles today. Engine has 75K miles on it. Love the truck, love the engine. You should mention the issues with the 10 spd transmission. I've had the truck in 3 time for hard shifting when cold. 1st time they said it's normal. Then, they replaced a valve in the valve body. The last time not only would it shift very hard when cold (30 deg F), it slipped bad. This time they completely rebuilt the valve body. Thank God I had an extended warranty... So far so good.
from what i seen you have to get them to change the shift pattern programing, theres videos about it on here
@@fordman2288 yeah, they did that too. The last rebuild of the valve body seems to have fixed it. They also reset the pcm as well I believe
It seems like almost everyone is still burning oil after the TSB which kind of sucks to hear. as for the transmission I've heard the ford 10 speeds are having issues with hard shifting. maybe I'll look into it.
@@TheGettyAdventures thanks for the response. I like your videos. See you on the next fricken’ video
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Great video ! Looking forward to seeing some trailer action! Keep crushing it man your videos are the highlight of my week!
Agree. The detailed explanations make it easier for non-engine guys like me to better understand. As for this engine I like it but I'm concerned about cylinder deactivation. Ditto GM and Ram deactivation.
2022 5.0 with 20k miles.
No oil loss or burning.
5w30 synthetic blend.
Change oil every 5k.
Tow a 25ft jaco from Ohio to North Carolina 4 times a year.
Never used oil
Never heard of the rod bearing or head gasket issue. I worked at a Ford dealer back when the 1st gen came out. One of the issues was cylinder wall scoring, and oil consumption has always been a thing. I had a 2011 gen 1 5.0, and I ran the shit out of it lol but it always ran good.
A belt driven oil pump just doesn’t sit right with me I like knowing my engines are going to last and ideally be easy to maintain also after working on engines for almost two decades now I’ve decided any engine with over six feet of timing chains I’ll just steer clear of
I believe it’s oil soaked as well.
I own a 2020 f150 with the 5.0. It sucked down oil until I had them flash the PCM. It drives way better and doesn't guzzle oil. I think the new rings and cylinders sealed too well and created too strong of a vacuum like ford claims. I think that because the Mustangs with the same cylinder treatment don't see the issue. The mustangs use a different PCV valve that's more restrictive (has a smaller hole diameter) so some f150 owners would just buy the mustang PCV valve for their truck and swap it out, which solved the issue entirely for most.
I would like to see larger bearings on the roller rockers. Compared to the 5.4, the bearings are tiny and probably cause lots of valve train ticks.
2011-2013 has inferior intake valves. They supposedly updated the valves sometime in 2013...but..
My 2014 built Oct.14 developed it. Lost compression on 2 cylinders. Had to rebuild both heads at 150km...my buddy at the machine shop said they're coming in like clockwork with Tulip'd valves. Mostly Cyl 4 & 8.
The new Gen 3s all burn excessive oil.
Interesting. Thanks for the info sir. I wonder if that's why the second gen 5L came with new intake and exhaust valves.
I'm looking to get a long bed F-150 to carry a 2000 pound truck camper. At first I was planning on getting a 7.3 F-250, but after diving into the specs, I realized I can easily get away with a F-150 as long as I stick with a reg cab XL or XLT, which I was gonna do anyway. I'm leaning toward a F-150 XLT 5.0 with payload package. The extra tq of the 3.5 is a consideration, but turbos tend to be problematic as they age and long term reliability is my top priority.
After owning a problematic 3.5 I would not recommend that engine in a full size truck. I contend it is too little.
@@ericlovelis5127 Which iteration of the 3.5 did you ow? This engine has been revised multiple times and is a much better engine today than when it was first put in the F150. That said, I think the 2.7 ecoboost is a better engine than the 3.5 because it's built much stronger, almost like a diesel. It'd actually get the 2.7 if it had a bit more torque.
I saw a video recently from a Ford tech that brought up a few good points about the oil consumption issue.
The first thing was that the latest TSB seems to fix the issue for 90%+ of owners.
The main point he brought up was that older people are the only ones regularly checking their oil levels. This comes from the old days when oil leaks and consumption was more common and electronics to monitor the oil were pretty much non-existent. The engine is designed to work within a range and if you're not seeing warning lights, you're not likely going to see issues that would result from low oil.
Drove from Illinois down to Orlando Florida. Down i55 to New Orleans then over. The truck used 1.5 quarts of oil. Had the new dipstick, etc. done before the trip. Going back Monday to the shop.
A big unintended advantage of cylinder deactivation is the high volume billet oil pump, and that oil pump is driven by a kevlar belt rather than the junk cam gears. This is a huge plus for those of us that want to put a blower on it. And Ford made the cylinder deactivation simple, unlike GM's hack job that destroy lifters and cams
I thought we would need to upgrade the oil pump gear for Super Charging.
We just had the engine and transmission replaced at a cost of $25k in one of our work trucks, a 2021 F150 with 220,000km. It had oil consumption problems from day one and hard shifting that the dealer could not fix.
I agree with you consumption problems on the 21 fortunately I have not experienced it, but I do have a lot of problems with the 10 speed transmission. It’s been replaced completely as well as a torque converter rebuild twice yet vibration slowing down coming up to stop chatters as the new joint, not parallel, etc., etc.might be something you can check out
I have a 2020 and I was SHOCKED when i pulled the dip stick . Did not register even after adding a quart .
I have the 2018 version of the engine, and the oil consumption is as you describe. I wish Ford had told me about it instead of letting me discover it (belatedly) by myself. Other than that, the engine has been trouble-free. However, I believe the ten-speed transmission has a "slushy" feel to it that the six-speed it replaced did not have. I wish I could have ordered a manual - I would have accepted a small loss of mpg for it.
2020 F150 here, ironically i just learned of this issue and decided to check the dipstick. 4.5qts low with 25% oil life remaining. No change in performance/temp etc...
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Interesting that a partial or complete cure is a new dipstick pcv valve and switch from 5w20 to 5w30 engine oil. It helped on my 2018 but then again I never got the pcm updated because with the 3.55 gears it gets 20-23mpg! I use Schaeffer's Supreme 9000 a true synthetic oil 13.01 a quart and change my oil around 10000 miles until I get 100,000 miles then I will change around 7,500 miles. This is a 2022 F150 5.0 XLT RCSB 4x4 and has 4.10 with torsen front and 4.09 with yukon posi in rear with 22x9 Ford aluminum wheels with 285x 55r22 Yokohama GO15 tires. This pickup rips. My son now owns my 2018 F150 5.0 SCab with 113,000 + miles and runs great - no problems with either truck and they are and were never babied by me My 2022 has almost 39,000 miles gets around 18-19mpg @ 60- 65mph winter and 19-20 in summer
I’ve got a 2020 5.0 built in July, zero issues running 5w-20 mobile 1
Awesome to hear Jason! hopefully she keeps on running well for you.
I have a 2019 F150 5.0 v8 with 38,500km, my check engine came after the engine got shaking, my mechanic told me that is an issue with one of the valves, plus the oil consumption is very high. I checked the recall from Ford and my truck is not in there, but I stronger believe my truck is part of it.
Few words I just dropped my truck to the dealer and will see what they will say about it.
I owned F150 before without any issues, until now.
About oils. Brands modify their formulation regularly. Sticking to a brand doesn't solve differing additive packs
Just had oil change today at ford dealer. Told them I put in 2 quarts in 4k miles . They pulled plugs and scoped cylinders and found 1 and 2 had scoring on walls . They didn't know why but said that's where my oil is going and if I want to fix it I'd need a new motor. Currently 80k miles on truck . 2018 f150 5.0 v8
Great video but it would be helpful to know at what mileage you might be seeing these problems arise. Like, do bearings or head gaskets fail after 10k miles or 100k? Also, under what use conditions such as tracking or towing heavy trailers could you expect to see failures.
I owned a 2020 F150 with the 5.0 Used 2.5 quarts per 5000 miles. Had the TSB done. Did not help. Also had the valve body replaced on the 10 speed transmission. Did not help the hard shifts. These are the two major issues I had. There were several other minor issues. I traded it off when it had a little less than 36000 miles. Was very disappointed with the 5.0
I've heard that the TSB was not working for some folks. tough to hear. what did you trade up for ?
@@TheGettyAdventures I traded for a 2023 F150 with the 3.5 Twin Turbo Ecoboost. Very happy so far.
Thanks for reminding me, I need to get an oil change in my 2019 5.0
I have a 2019 F150 with the 5L V8 and have had many oil consumption problems. Two times it was in to be reprogrammed to fix the excessive oil consumption (1 quart every 1,000 or so miles). I now have it in the they said the sulfur content in fuel breaks down the cylinder wall coating. The fix this time is to have a brand new engine put in, luckily I have an extended warranty on the powertrain. The problem is the Ford service at the dealership said it took 8 to 9 months to fix the last truck they had in for the same problem. Obviously I am not happy about having to wait. Not sure if anyone else has a similar situation or have experienced that long of a wait.
Interestingly, this engine had it's oil viscosity changed in Australia after 1 year of running it there, from 5w20 to 5w30. Ford changed it from in NA from 5w20 to 5w30 with the 4th gen - seems they know it should run 5w30, but no longer need the MPG gain from 20 now they have cylinder deactivation.
You're absolutely right if you look in the owner's manual it recommends if u live in a hot climate or tow running 5w30 and if you talk to mechanics or Ford engineers they recommend 5w30 the 5w20 is just to thin especially when towing or running the 5.0 hard
@@trackpackgt877 In the US, they are not allowed to say that in the manual (for the most part) as it's forbidden as part of the CAFE agreement.
@@f2cmadmaxx oh thats weird my gt manual says 5w30 for racing towing or severe Duty and 5w20 for fuel mileage. That's why I assumed they all said it maybe my car came from out of the states. thanks for the info
@@trackpackgt877 Oh, yes the Mustang manual contains other info for 'track use' and that's allowed, but it also should say switch back to 20 as soon as you're off the track. The engine will run a 50, also mentioned in the manual.
@@f2cmadmaxx A 50 weight I didn't see that I really only glanced at it seen i could run 5w30 and then I ended up switching. So then I dug into a little bit more and seen about the cafe ratings or whatever there called then a friend of mine has a F-150 he said it recommends 5w30 when towing but like you said recommend switching right back to 5w20 when not towing. Point of it is that leads me to believe a 5w 30 is better for these motors I really appreciate the info buddy and enjoyed the conversation
I bought a new 2023 150, 5L. Changed oil at 10K miles. Exactly 5 qts came out.
My 2020 is currently on the waiting list for a motor, just completed my consumption test and I burn 3 quarts over 5k miles
Have an 18 with an 5.0. It burnt about a quart every 4k miles when it was new. Maybe at around 40k miles it slowed to a quart every 5k miles. I’m at around 70k miles and it’s down to a halft quart every 5k miles. For mine it just took a really long time for everything to seat. I never had the update done.
Change your PCV to the Mustang part number EV281 and use full synthetic oil, then that will go away.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 I did both of those things with absolutely no results. Still consumes the oil.
@@captainbill8241 then you have the wrong dipstick.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 I had the TSB done at the dealership and they triple confirmed I do indeed have the correct dipstick.
@@captainbill8241 well I've seen guys have their engines replaced, then still have the oil consumption, then find out they need their dipstick replaced at the dealer under TSB on their second engine and get the wrong dipstick the third time. To only return the twentieth time for the fourth replacement to finally get the dipstick and fix the issue.
I know the Nissan Titan is the red headed step child of the pickup truck world but would you be willing to review the 5.6 v8 in the titan? Specifically in the Titan XD. It seems like an overlooked and underrated truck.
This! I am super intrigued by the Titan. Other than it being direct injection, it seems really solid.
so in Canada they actually stop selling those trucks in 2020 I believe. So it would be really hard for me to get my hands on one but you never know!
@The Getty Adventures
Ah fair enough.
It's still way faster than the 5.3 chev or the 5.7 hemi . I think saying it lacks low speed power is spin , for what the average person does .
Great video!! I purchased my 2020 F150 5.0L engine with 64K km's and started suspecting heavy oil consumption after going thru an oil change etc. It was brought into the dealer, they did change the oil/filter and reprogrammed the PCM. After 2,5000 km's my level had dropped to the bottom of the cross-hatched section on the stick. It is schedule to go in once again for further diag next week. Fortunately it is still covered under the Ford powertrain warranty.
To compensate for low speed power (torque) just manual shift your transmission and keep the revs up. If you’re still not happy buy a 6.7
Lifters failed on my GMC… wanted to switch to a ford/coyote….. REALLY DIDNT WANT CYLINDER DEACTIVATION 😂
Just a note. For the Gen 14 they upped the oil thickness to use from 5W-20 to 5W-30. According to the manual the minium type you should use is a synthetic blend. Ford recommends oil changes every 10,000 miles or whenever your truck tells you (it takes towing into consideration). I haven't had any excess oil consumption in my 20,000 miles on my 2021.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that they did away with the transmission cooler and now just use the internal water cooling for the transmission. I haven't had any issues with towing 5,000 lbs once a month.
Cam phasers are known to go out in all the engines, not just the 5.0. At least on the previous generation.
I always use 10w 30, but I live in TX
Everyone recommends 10k and that is probably for EPA regulations and so they can advertise the cost of ownership is lower. I'd still do oil every 3-6k fully synthetic so sludge doesn't build up. Mostly 5-6k unless you drive really short distances regularly, then do 3k.
I fixed my oil consumption by changing the PCV valve from the 5.0L to the 3.5L ecoboost valve.
Please tell me the part number.
My 2018 used oil, right on the ragged edge of engine replacement. Changed from 5-20 oil to 5-30 and the problem went away. Always use MotorCraft semisynthetic.
I have a 2019 XLT 5.0. I had oil consumption issue and 2 dealers told me losing 3 quarts for 3000 miles was normal. The 3rd dealer said they knew the issue and replaced the dipstick type and something with the filler. Now I don't lose any noticable amount
I have a 2020 and just took it in for oil consumption. They reprogrammed the pcm. It’s going back in 4000 miles for evaluation.
I have a 2021 F-150 that I have to add oil between oil changes. My dealership has an oil consumption test and will be starting that on the next oil change. I do haul an 8,000lb travel trailer sometimes that may be causing the excess consumption.
9:35 I have a 2020 F-150 and am going through 3-5 qt of oil every 3 months. Just found out about the service bulletin, so will make an appointment and pray it gets fixed. If not, I’ll be suing Ford or joining the class action suit
I've got a 2013 with the Gen 1 Coyote with 141k miles. Great engine for me. I've had some minor things to replace like the water pump (90k miles is common issue) and oil pan gasket. Neither was difficult since there is plenty of room to work under the hood. 5k oil changes. Overall I love the truck, it has held up really well, and the motor has been great.
My question for Alex would be: If I ever have to replace the motor, could I replace it with the Gen 2 Coyote? My father-in-law had a 2015 with the Gen 2 coyote and the bigger valves seemed to really wake the engine up.
second gen engines seem to be really solid units! I'm honestly not too sure on if you could simply drop the second gen engine in without issue. I would think at least you would need to change your powertrain computer and harness.
Imagine being so bad that 140,000 miles with out a break down is doing good. That's ford.
Tell me again how Chevy is so amazing when their engines self destruct from the AFM system? Or Dodge and their transmissions 😂
No you can’t, you can do Gen 2 bottom end, Gen 2 heads, but you need to use the Gen 1 timing components and cams since your ECU is Gen 1.
I had a 2018 with the coyote engine. Ford put a new engine at 29000km because of oil consumption. The new engine was a 2019 model and claimed hear they fixed the problem in 2019. Turns out that 5he oil consumption was even worse than the original. That is where they changed the dipstick along with the reprogram. It DID NOT fix the problem. What they actually did is change the range of the add mark and full mark on the dipstick. It went from 1 litre between the marks to 1.9 litres between the add and full. Thy said that as long as the oil falls under the add and full mark. I had measured the two dipstick’s side by side. Before hey took the old dipstick away. I’ve since gotten rid of the truck and bought a 2022 power boost. Now that is an engine. Does not use a single drop of oil. And fuel economy and power is amazing. 430 hp and 570 pounds torque. Highway fuel economy sits at 9.0 litres per hundred, providing you don’t drive it like a mad man.
My 2021 burns a crazy amount of oil. I can prove it.
Not good to hear!
I had an old 5.4 in my Lincoln truck and it never burned oil and I ran the hell out of it. The big problem was the spark plug issue which I did the replacement
and after that still no oil burning like my 2018 and now my 2019 with the 5.0. This is what I heard that the mustangs had a different oil pump gears that fed more oil mainly when at lower rpms. Why the pickup 5.0s dont have the same oil pump gears is beyond me. The other thing is that as long as your on a long trip, I went over 2k miles and no oil burn issue. Here in the city with the stop and go it will burn oil. It will burn about a quart between the oil changes. I understand that the new fix was a different oil dip stick and remap the computer, I think the dip stick is shorter or longer cause they do have about 8 quarts of oil so if you measure it will still show no oil consumption . The guy never did say what specific the new TSB does.
2021 F-150 XLT 5000 mi between changes no visible loss of oil on dipstick at all. Mobil 1 full synthetic motorcraft filter!
Yes 2020 5.0 still have oil burn issues. I’m currently getting an engine replacement under warranty for this oil burn issue issue and cylinder scoring.
Great Video! Thank you 🔥👏💪🫶
What a Fantastic video. Been looking for a video like this for a while. Hoping to get 300k out of my '15 gen 2 Coyote with 135k. I abuse it consistently when it has been warmed up after 20 mins or so. Been hearing a new tick noise that keeps up with RPMs. Got Oil analyzed and everything checks out to average or better wear and the anti-wear additives are better than average...
I have the Gen 2 (2015 F150) 5.0. 297K miles and still runs great. Has a small tick when warm. Not certain if a rod bearing. The noise is not coming from under the valve cover, so a rod noise is possible. If so, I may have to slide a new rod bearing in when the spring comes. Not fun but doable with the engine in the truck.
@@Jerry-rd9my Yeah Mine sounds like it’s top end. I’m starting to think it’s either lifter/follower or cam phaser. Definitely on passenger side. 145k now. No difference in performance as of yet. Might drive it till it blows unless the sound gets worse.
I have a 2020 F150 with the coyote 5L engine. I have an oil consumption issue, a loss of 1 quart of oil every 1500 miles. Ford Service has ordered a new engine to resolve the issue.
Speaking of, I am heading out to truck now to add oil to my 2020 F150 5.0. I usually add about 1qt a month.
My 2018 5.0 burns about a qt every 3k miles since new, currently 109,000 miles on truck.
Yaa see thats not terrible but still that should not happen. Silver lining is burning a little oil is not catastrophic to the engine so just keep topping her up and you'll be fine!
@@TheGettyAdventures I perform all my own service and have been using Valvoline full synthetic 5w20, I’m considering switching to Amsoil. I already use Amsoil in my motorcycle and our standby generator and have noticed the motorcycle runs cooler and the generator starts easier.
No my friend a better seal at the bore via rings to bore will create more vacuum which in turn will pull more oil into the chamber. A better seal at the bore effects the combustion chamber. On the intake stroke it will pull harder so your thought on the spray lines bores being a loser fit will have less combustion chamber vacuum
My 2020 burns oil. 1 qt every 1500 miles. I have done every "fix" and still use oil. Every local deal says this is normal and Ford made it to use oil. Can't make this up.
I have a 2020 F150 with 48k miles. I've had excessive oil consumption for several months. Ford reprogramed the PCM, replaced the PCV and now they are replacing the whole engine (it's back ordered) so I must not be the only one with issues. I've been burning approx. 1 quart of oil every 600 miles. I'm not sure how much I will even trust the replaced engine.
Got a 2023 tremor with a 5.0 in it, and the oil burning issue doesn’t seem to be a problem. I was paranoid about that and check it every 500 miles just be safe and over protective. The pressure gauge always says it’s low but the dip stick says the oil so full soooo
Oil pressure and oil level do not always go hand in hand. Of course, when levels get too low the pressure will drop. But, just because the level is high doesn’t mean pressure will be equally high. If internal bearings are worn, for example, you can be at proper level but pressure will be low(er).
I just bought one! Great synopsis!
Since you're starting to go through different engines, I want to see you can find a 94-02 dodge ram with the v10 magnum and review it.
Really?? Nobody has that set up on projects. I personally haven't seen one on an actual work site for at least 10 years.
@swampgumpharpy7977 it's a rare sight. I saw one yesterday and was shocked. If I ever get my hands on one, I'm keeping it forever.
@@6gredlite907 If you get one, consider me for TOD 💀🤘
That would be an interesting engine to review! may be tough to get my hands on one but we'll see!