Cheap Tenor Sax on Amazon ($420) vs Pro Sax ($4600)
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Jay Metcalf compares a cheap tenor saxophone from Amazon to a professional Yanagisawa tenor.
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Me: it didn’t sound that bad
Jay: terrible
Me: terrible
Chatie 24 the instrument didn’t really have any defining depth. It was very boring. When you hear ｉｃｏｎｉｃ selmers, you are easily entertained by its depth. The sax was bland, not smooth, and abrupt, overall. Check out a selmer’s Autumn Leaves cover. But that saxophone would be GREAT for beginners. Obviously, i am a saxophonist, so I can easily tell the quality of saxes.
aaron names i cant tell if thats sarcastic or not
@@ddlcfan8947 The comment didn't really have any defining sarcasm. Obviously, i am a linguist, so I can easily easily tell the sincerity of comments.
Eolueulo are you also being sarcastic lmao
Spot on 😂
You had to open it with the gloves so it wouldn’t break
Hehe
Except the gloves were inside the case!
Better Sax should’ve used the other ones, they were better anyways 😂
@@bettersax Years ago, a salesman told me, the gloves are for testing in the store, for keeping the horn clean if you didn't decide to buy it. For me ti have some sense. Greetings from Colombia!
The gloves arent useless.
You still can wear them on your hands lol
I completely understand your breath of relief after blowing the low notes smooth
I played a bad tenor for about 2 years, and at a jazz convention i got to try out saxophones, and i played a nice tenor, and blew the low notes at a volume below forte, and it felt amazing
The first one was alright, it had a great sound that had a more classical sound. But the yanigasowa had a much warmer sound and had a cool old school sound that made it sound much more like a traditional jazzy sax. The second one also had a brighter sound.
Chinese made tenor sax
Can anyone suggest me a good and reliable tenor
I know this is the tenor test but years ago I bought a used Conn student eb Alto horn for 100 bucks, and taught myself how to re-pad it and play it. It was loads of fun, and fine to learn on. So perhaps looking for a good used one might be a better intro plan.
Do the Bari!(pls) Wanna hear play Bari, haven’t heard you play yet.
YES!! PLEASE DO BARI!!
I didn’t realise you already had done this, serves me right for watching old content. This was great to watch. Now I’m going to scroll the rest of your videos before I ask for anything 😊. Thank you!
Reminds me of when I upgraded to a pro tenor. I bought a P. Mariuat... Something about that horn made me fall in love with it. A pro horn doesn't necessarily make you a better player but it definitely allows you the ease of accessing what you know how to do so well... the expression and flexibility you have on a nice instrument is worth the investment... Especially if you play it for decades. Better investment then a car tbh... especially if you can make a few bucks with it.
I guess when he was fixing that tenor sax, he did make it into a “Better Sax”
The cheap one had a fuzzy sound, on this one... Didnt hear that difference on the alto vid.
HeyVince cheap pads probably
Agreed
I did hear like the sound of an airstream on the cheap alto
4:01
C Key: Yo wassup keyguard u lookig freshhh
Thanks for sharing Jay. Interesting point about the case, that makes sense that could cause a lot of problems.
I have only gotten one saxophone in the mail. Figured it was a gamble. But it was also an older saxophone. The Conn soprano I have from 1929. It could basically play when I got it, but improved quite a bit with some replaced pads. I did a few minor repairs myself.
Could also be good to consider whether you can carry the case on a flight if you're interested in doing that. For soprano/alto you can probably carry most on board. But with tenor, it's basically at the edge where a more contoured case will get you less looks/inquiries. But if you're going to check, it had better be extremely secure.
When you started playing the Yani it sounded like the storm was over and the sun came out. What a difference.
Your Channel helped me start my own! Thank you!
this video has help me as i need to buy my own tenor sax instead of rent one
For 500 $ you can have the great Thomann TS350 antique
You can get a really impressive solid
case with it
And it play just very well (with an Otto link tone edge and Rico select jazz Reed)
It's actually my main saxophone today and i'm going to my repair sax one time per year juste for checking
One thing you have to take into consideration, most people won’t have the expertise to reassemble the instrument, And will end up sending it back or bringing it to a repair shop which will cost a chunk. I have a king super 20 tenor sex my mother bought for me back in the late 70s beautiful instrument I quit playing after high school and that instrument has been sitting untouched for over 40 years I’m wondering if the pads can survive that long let me know what you think.
I just bought a cheap Tenor. About $450, it's a Suzuki brand, but it came in the same packaging as yours and a similar case.
JM - Tone was good, intonation sounded good, too. If playability, per your comments, was a bit inferior, and with the mechanical issues after shipping, I wouldn't risk this one, either. Thanks for sharing this info with sax fans.
It would be cool if you played the bari
ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!
If you can get these horns playable, and of course you’re way ahead of the game being a pro repair guy (which can’t be said for most of us), I guess there’s an argument for having a cheapo horn to fly with in case it gets out in the hold. Or as a spare to have in a theatre on a pit gig. Amazon lucked out having you sort that one out! Lol.
I actually play an Austin saxophone that is EXACTLY like this lade thing. It came pretty good but with an awful case. Plays pretty nice and has lasted a long time
The difference in sound between the cheap tenor and the Yani is way more obvious than the soprano and alto....and anyway your facial expression during the play test told everything! Ah, ah, I spent a good moment.
I think you sound great on both of them; but then I think you are a great sax player!
But the low notes on the lade made it look like it was hard
I love Yani sopranos. But a new Yani tenor was bought by friend who had played with Doug Can. Black laquer nice looking Yani that as soon as he played it right away sounded tinny and thin compared to his Mark VI. At the gig the piano player/leader heard the same thing I heard and decided to cut his solos short and even not give him a few solos. The disrespect notwithstanding, the $3,000 horn back in 2006 was horrible. I also loved Yani bari but not all horns are equal even when they cost thousands!
Jay how are you. Thanks for taking time to do this for the rest of us. Honestly this chinese sax is a huge fail for me. I and most of us watching on may not be able to fix a sax or get it ready to play.
Can you compare between the cheapest baritone saxophone and a professional baritone saxophone
I have a tenor sax that was made in 1887 and was extremely good also expensive 2 grant
Got that same sax for Christmas, the g sharp key came off immediately. Sent that sucker back
He looked in pain when playing the cheap sax and it sounded much fuzzier. He seemed like he was going to cry as soon as he picked up his good horn of happiness and had to verbally express how much he was relieved. He felt so much better he had to play the lick.
the sound in the cheap one wasnt terrible. the middle was actually fine. The deep low and de high turned really flat really quick... the sound just kinda dropped away
I play tenor in school and I have the pro and iys great not going to lie
YES IT'S FINALLY HERE!
The Lade sax doesn't sound terrible, it's not the best. But it's not the worst either, it sounds decent. I might actually buy one myself, since I'm not the best off financially. I will definitely admit the pro sax sounds way better though
Hey Jay there is a company called Dillon's up in NY making copes of yanisgsawa altos ( 9 series) , and selling them at budget prices, like 700. Do you know anything about these guys? I know they are an old music store, but that is about it. Kinda of interested but.........or should I just get a used genuine article? Thanks
@Tristan Voitcu thanks
The cheapo-sax... not bad, especially since you are a seasoned sax player... however, clearly and tonally... your vintage sax has a smoothness and sound quality that you can't get in a cheapo. Cheapo-sax is a great starter though.
I’m excited for the cheap Bari, Jay
It sounds ok but in comparison it has none of overtone nuances of your horn. It´s a one way street.
But absolutely hilarious Jay!
thanks...
Thanks for checking this model. It sounded ok, but I think the good mouthpiece (& saxophonist!) made the difference. Kinda scary having to assemble it straight out of the box! How is the action? On most inexpensive tenors I tried the action was not very good, but I've never tried a Chinese made horn. Your experience with the Chinese soprano & tenor have pretty much convinced me not to buy one. It seems pretty risky & I wouldn't want to spend the time and money getting them adjusted every month or 2.
The Lade sounded louder, but I notices the air sound more than the tone.
I'm not an expert but the difrent in sound quality not worst that amount of money between the tow instruments..
The Yanagisawa sounds like it’s worth, $$$$$$, sharp, crisp, clean...
The Lade sounds (for a lack of words) cheap, a good student sax to start off with though.
Hi I was wondering if you've done an eastar tenor sax review yet? I'm ordering it from Amazon and was wondering if I'll need a new case or not. But I have seen the eastar alto review
Haha!! Good video Jay.
Surprise for me. This cheap sounds realy good, even if your Yani is easy to play securly.
Anyway, its inadmissible to receive a horn in this conditions.
Such a great vid as I was about to buy that tenor as I need one great vid keep it going
Love yoy
Can you review the allora Paris saxophones? They are higher quality then theese, but the Altos are only 1000 dollars and the baris are only 3000....
I’ve had my Allora paris for 5 years. Did me well during competitions and college jazz band. Biggest problem was the G sharp key with the octave key but i figured out how to play the note every time. For $1100 was not a bad at all. I think my favorite sax to play on was the Cannonball altos or the Yani baris.
@@Captaincrab77 yeah I've got a cannonball alto sax myself, but in trying to get a tenor, bari, and soprano. I'm a highschooler, do you think the alloras would be good for me?
saxophoner Man123 If your parents (unless you make your own cash) are not willing to spend over $2,000 then yeah it’s a good investment. I marched my Allora for competitions only and used it for region and other auditions. Tenor and soprano Alloras would be great! I think you can test them out on Woodwind and Brasswind too.
I would say buy a Selmer, yamaha, cannon, or yani Bari because you dont want those things to have problems. The baris i’ve played during middle and high and college sucked and needed to go to the repair shop. Although, this vintage King bari the college had was beautiful. But yeah Allora paris is a good brand. Was able to beat out others using selmers and yamahas.
@@Captaincrab77 Thanks I'm planning to play sax professionally , you'd think the alloras last? And yeah I'm planning to work.
Are you playing it with the same mouthpiece?
Would you say Yamaha saxophones are worth the money or if the quality is good?
Hey love your stuff! What do you think of Gear4Music Saxophones? I bought a soprano from them, I like it, but don't know any-better. Started many years ago just on my own never took a lesson, I know dumb of me but I'm Lazy. You have already helped me in the set up. So I'm sold on your Technique! I would love to get a newer tenor sax, I have an old Martin Standard. What do you think?
Very nice video. Had to laugh when you lifted the g# key. I myself ordered a fake unlaquered "Selmer" alto on Ali Express for around 300$ out of curiosity, and it arrived without a pad in the octave key! No glue residues, so they really forgot to put one in. I wonder how they did a blow test before shipping - probably they didn't. Moreover the bottom bell brace was leaking like hell, so below E flat I could not get out a solid tone. (Fixed that with wood glue). And the ring for the hanger is mounted in a wrong position, so the saxophone hangs twisted to the side (bent it to the side for a better position). And I exchanged a number of pads... Intonation is still difficult, very sharp in the upper register. So a lot of issues. But the sound of this thing! Plays like crazy. I play it daily now, as my main saxophone.
I want a new tenor saxophone becuz I got one in like 4th grade and it was a beginner. Now I’m in 7th grade and I’m starting to play a lot harder music so it can require a better saxophone. I want one of the laqcue ones that aren’t painted. I want one that’s at least an intermediate or professional becuz I plan 2 play it all the way to college and maybe in college.
Do the bari next!! 🎷
A couple of days ago compared Yanagisawa t 901 ul and Selmer Bundy II. Yanagisawa saxophone is bad, maybe it's not even a saxophone, a lot of extra frequencies in the sound, Selmer Bundy II sounds poorer, but more fun, damn modern saxophones have disappointed me...
I am thinking of getting a a amazing sax still learning and can't afford $2,000 plus on o e so a $400+ one sounds good but is it worth it or better to just save up for a good one?
can you compare a cheap baritone sax and a pro horn
Consider also: what’s the sense of playing a multi thousand dollar instrument into a $50 mic plugged into a peavy mixer connected to radio shack speakers? If it stays in tune it’s useable. Studio is another story.
Have you reviewed the EASTERN music saxes? Or their necks?
Bigger sax... More damage in transit. If only Lade would figure that out (and proper QC at the factory), they'd own the market.
Yeah, simple and cheap fix that would avoid a ton of problems and returns.
The cheap one sounds raspy and dry and the Yanagisawa sounds so much smoother
You should buy a mandini or a kaizer sax. I see a lot of those on amazon, the mendini sax is really cheap
What are the gloves all about anyway?
And what do you do later with the saxophones you buy in Amazon?
We have to do bari now
It goes to show that 95% of saxophonist sound is the player...the last 5% is the horn itself but as a player it sure can be a huge difference for inspiration!
Do the Baritone Saxophone next
Yeah im wondering about the Barry
Why not try a Taishan Winds horn?
Acredito que foi mal porque já chegou quebrado, rsrsrs.
Mas, acredito que fazendo uma regulagem profissional, inclusive nas aberturas das chaves, o som seja realmente bom!
Yeh you had to fight for your sound in the lad sax
big time.
what is the best tenor brand under $3500?
0:29 nice
Lade or Slade? We never know
Jeff. Great video. I have heard about Jean Paul USA saxophones. Do you have an opinion on them? Thanks.
Jay. Sorry I called you Jeff.
It looks like it was harder and took a lot more effort to play the cheap sax.. like u were struggling to get a good tone and response out of it?
What sax is best for over blows?
What mouthpiece do you use?
Question: Do you think it's ok to by a cheap yanagisawa tenor saxophone?
I wasn't aware that there is such a thing as a cheap Yanagisawa sax.
Even the cheapest tenor they make costs around £2,300.
maybe the gloves are work gloves to reassemble the pos after you pour it out👍🏻
i am just wondering, do your yani sax has the "high a hiss " problem? i had played many professional class sax, want i play the high a, the octive hole one the neck will make a noticeable si si sound, i found this problem on yas-875, yas-82z ，wo20，buffet senzo, and woodstone new vintage, etc. when i use a mouthpiece with larger lip opening and a harder reed, this problem will get worse
The tone sounds a bit fuzzy and very un-open like it may squeak on some mornings and again, buy a case for anyone trying to get this (soft secure with no wrap over your saxophone because that may pull off loose keys, 5.4/10 basic, very beginner-Esk
Good start
I don't think that the sound is the big problem but the time. After a while they fall apart and need constant repair plus you don't get parts for it. We had the problem with the horn my son played. It was a chinese instrument, decent sounding but it needed repair every three months. It is annoying and not worth it. Better save some money and spend it on a pre-loved sax :-)
I have a question though. I always hear that playing a pro model horn is easier than the cheaper horns. I play a student model conn selmer AS701 alto right now. I am finding to transition between the mid range eflat and low c is a bit hard my right pinky does not slide over but sometimes gets stuck in the space between the eflat key and the low c key. Have you ever experienced this? I was wondering if it was the horn or my way of playing.
More of a noticeable diference in sound between cheap and exensive sax than the alto and soprano
Yeah, the other horns had pads that sealed well. This makes a big difference. A pro horn with poor sealing pads can still sound ok though.
Lmao i remember i got a load of reeds from Lade... all broke within a few days... lol, kept filing them, and my rico royal reeds normally last 10-11 months in great condition so...
When you said, "Wow, that's a big relief", what did you mean by that. In what way was it a relief? What about the Altissimo range, you didn't demonstrate that area and comment on it. I have an older Schiller T. Sax. Not sure if it's a student or intermediate, but it looks like I got a better deal on it (paid $108. on-line auction) than this Lade seems to be. Still working on throat tones, octave excercises etc. to improve my altissimo work but not sure with my Schiller, if I'm playing the notes correctly. Your Altissimo chart doesn't always line up with my horn--(yes it's me and the horn, not your fingerings. I'm never sure to what extent it's the horn's issue and not mine. I'm doing my best to position my throat properly to achieve these notes). Aaaanyway, thank you for another GREAT instructional video. Always looking forward to more. In the aviation field they always preach that a good pilot is always learning. Well, so do better sax players. Thanks again, Jay.
So who's the supplier for that precision hammer?
Yes please do a review on a Amazon baritone versus your baritone
ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!
The cheap sounded all choked up and it seemed to airy and like it was hissing as applied to a good saxaphone it’s a fuller sound
As apposed*
Started looking for cheap tenor about 2 months ago and watched your other 2 reviews as part of my research. Now I'm hooked to the channel! But I just didn't have the patience to wait for this tenor review, so a few weeks ago I ordered a cheap sax (based on another TH-cam video):
th-cam.com/video/W8m8gkN_zus/w-d-xo.html
I got the "Mendini by Cecilio" Tenor on Amazon. I found one that was available as "Used or slightly damaged" from an Amazon Warehouse and it only cost me US $179 with shipping (Normally $329). The horn I got was undamaged and surprisingly solid. Nothing fell off LOL. Although, it does have a G# I need to fix (not really sure how to repair, the pad stays shut regardless) and the B-natural was off due to a pad that wasn't closing completely (easy fix). Haven't done a light leak check but the lower pads have a good thunk, and overall the sound is pretty warm.
I played Alto for many years but always wanted a Tenor just for fun, didn't know if I'd play it enough to warrant a Mk VI or even an old Yamaha, so figured this was worth the risk. I've had a great time finding "sheet music" on TH-cam to play along with, just to find a good tone and re-familiarize myself with the fingerings (and also re-learn how to read music - it's been over 20 years). The tenor really requires more diaphragm control than expected. When I switch back to my old Alto the play is effortless, but when I finish a run on the tenor I'm straining... and I'm chalking it up to the increased volume of the horn, maybe leaking pads... especially when hitting the higher notes. I'm betting when I replace the mouthpiece that will also help a bit.
If I can't fix the G# myself, I'm almost embarrassed to take it into a repair shop! The repair bill could cost more than the horn itself, but I suppose that's par for the course. It will still be a bargain and I'll be happy.
Two years after do you have any additional info as far as how its playing now? kindly share :)
@@ogbeisibor3193 Not bad actually, I got the bad keys fixed (used alt fingering when possible), got a replacement mouthpiece and switched back to natural reeds (It came with crap reeds and I used a plastic reed but found it too harsh). I still struggle with altissimo notes at times but I don't practice nearly as frequently as I should.
Do you have a contrabass sax
Saxaboom next
Sounded like a cat was hissing in the background whilst you played you the Lade. xD
do the contrabass sax
Wait I play the flute but I’m still interested
the day Lade guys start selling Bari Saxes i'll be ordering one first thing in the morning : D
The company that Lade orders from sells them and so do various other sellers with different engravings. I would opt for an older used Bari aside from a cheap Chinese one. Getting yourself a used Bundy or a Mexi Conn bari would be the way to go, you’ll save money and get a good horn after setup and the horn will retain its value should you want to sell it and upgrade
What shirt is that...
It all depends on the player not the saxophone
If that company was smart, then they would hire you to be their Quality Control Guy. For the price I think it is a good playing Sax. A lot if them might be bought to be wall hangars in Restaurants or Pubs.
Take a look at Jean Paul USA saxophones they claim to be as good as the 82z but it being a fraction of the price