Easy Rust Repair the 'Hack' Way -EricTheCarGuy
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- As you may know my 1993 Acura Vigor had some pretty bad water leaks into the trunk due to rust issues. To repair them I needed to do a little body work. In this video I show how to do body work using 'hack' methods to get you by. In order to do this 'properly' it would have been best to cut out the old rusted material and weld in new metal. I didn't feel that my $500 Acura Vigor was worth that effort so I did what you see here in this video. As stated this method works very well for floor pans or other areas where you're not necessarily going to see the finished product. Honestly, I don't think things turned out so bad, in fact, I have a new appreciation for the car now that I've done this work, despite the fact that the paint doesn't' match. Perhaps one day I'll go back and finish it properly and respray the entire car. For now, I have other work to do to keep this car in good working order.
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I'm sure you won't but I hope you do, see this. you did nothing or said nothing in this video, that I haven't said or done a hundred times. I am very pleased that it is still being done. the first one I did like this, the car (47 chev) cost $8.00 running and the repairs cost $11.00 (no labour) sold it that weekend for $41.00 and a 27 ford that had a chevy six in it (not yet running). I was 12 and I've never looked back. I'll be 70 tomorrow and I still drive rat rods to this day. Rat Rod = good brakes, good steering and what ever you can afford for the rest of it. Your videos are great and help out a lot of people that are struggling. Keep up the good work.
That's an awesome story always good to hear how cheap things were back then I was born in the wrong time haha
This is by far the best budget video on rust issues for cars that aren't worth hundreds or thousands of dollars in body shop repairs. Thanks Eric!
I tip my hat to “Eric the car guy” for bringing real, concise, and doable projects to the masses....🇨🇦👍🏻
Thanks for this video. It's refreshing to learn something new when it comes to repairs that can be completed at home on a budget, rather than stuff that requires money and perfection and might not be practical for your average daily driver vehicle. Keep it up Eric.
This was fun. Don't worry about the color match, the entire car needs paint. Easy Rust Repair the 'Hack' Way -EricTheCarGuy
did you a little of tiger blood in Tiger Hair winner
Nice job Eric. Even though this is a 500 $ car, I would have found a color which match better :-)
What was that round rubber piece next to the trunk vent that you took out of the rusted metal residue but never cared to put back in, instead you just filled the hole?
It's new idea
Seegal Galguntijak It was just a plastic plug, probably there for manufacturing. It's removal didn't effect anything as far as I can tell.
Thanks Eric. Yes, there are so many $500 cars out there that you just can't take the time, money to fix permanently or redo as if it were a more expensive car. So thanks for the "down and dirty" method. Btw, I have used duct tape as a backer for the fiberglas repair once I primed the backing after grinding etc. then removed the tape and coated the back with fiber once I had "made" the front portion of the repair. Plastic putty knives work well for smaller areas, bends, etc. Overall, it worked pretty well for just a few hours work.
Thank you. You've given me hope to do some medium term repairs to my 50 year old Mack. Didn't know a glass fibre filler existed. And the paper moulding idea is great.
the speech leading up to and ending around 1:30 is exactly why i watch erics channel when i was driving a 97 honda accord.. he shows u ways to fix WITHOUT the costly procedures.
Thanks for the mention! I've had a lot of subs today. It was a quick fix and stopped the water...goal accomplished! I agree, I'd rather look at a mismatch than a rust bubble and keep the stuff in the trunk dry. I'll post this on my site.
Something tells me he didn't even mention you and you're just piggy backing off of Eric's viewers.
***** Watch the video and find out!
***** Something tells me you have a chromosomal deficiency.
DIY How To Paint A Car School 6:32 or so, his channel is mentioned.
Thanks for your input Donnie, I really appreciated it!
I was bit dubious about this until I saw Eric using rust inhibitor /converter - I had been willing him to do it and like the pro. he is, he did! .
I have used it often and very successfully. It really does stop rust in its tracks - it works on a very sound chemical principle - and even if you don't paint over it, as happened when I used it when repainting my kids' garden swing and missed a bit with the paint spray can.
Mind you, I would have cut a carboard template and stuck it behind to hole and applied the filler with a spatula, but I work from home and can make time when I need it.
Nonethless Bravo EtCG
if you use wax paper, the filler will not stick to it. it will peel away clean and really smooth, which saves a lot of sanding.
Bruhhhhh
6 mill clear plastic does the same thing, peels off cleanly and you can see the shape while your forming with your hands.
Plastic with a roller really gives a smooth surface and you use so much less filler.
I did some small body repair or my 74 datsun recently. Since I don't have metal bending tools, I welded new plate in as best as I could . And filled the gaps and seams with a metal filler. Expensive stuff, but it really gets as hard as steel. I even tried it experimently on a hole. Filled it up. And after 30 minutes I could retap it. Really nice video Eric for the do it yourself guy at home who does not have expensive body work repair tools lying around!
Favorite car guy on TH-cam. A+ camera work and sound. Thanks for the high quality production :D
Good vid Eric..I liked how you qualified it in the title by saying "the 'hack' way" lol. As someone who has been fairly critical of some of your vids in the past, I don't think even I would call this method a "hack" method. From what I saw it was a pretty cool product and very viable method for a DIY'r to do some simple bodywork to try and solve a problem! In fact, I could have used this vid back when I was in high school and bought a 1988 Honda CRX from a Honda dealership (used of course). After 3 months of driving it, I started getting large bubbles in the paint in almost all the exact same places that your car was rusting! Over the wheels on all 4 corners, gas cap, rear bumper areas, etc.. I remember touching one of the largest paint bubbles lightly and my finger going right through! They had probably just used bondo over the existing rust and did a quick sand job and paint to make a quick sale. Now that is the true "HACK" way of doing it lol. This was a dealership that was supposed to employ professionals…instead they were just sleazy hacks. I knew enough about cars at the time to get a car that was good mechanically, which it was, but didn't know what to look for when it came to body issues. Their shady job probably made things worse in the long run, because within a year all the rust was fully exposed..lol. It was a good life lesson I guess.
I ended up selling to a guy who was less concerned with cosmetic issues than I was. I sold it on a Wednesday, and two days later the guy parked it a friends cabin in the mountains for a party, and I guess he left it in neutral with no e-brake for whatever reason, and it ended up rolling off the dirt road and down a 500 ft embankment. It had enough momentum near the bottom that when it hit a tree stump it ripped off the rear and most of the front suspension.
Ohh to be 17 again…..lol
I swear Eric, you are the man! You have covered every single issue I have ever had and your videos have saved me so much time and money. Thank yoj so much. Everyone, if you have a vehicle, SUBSCRIBE! No joke
wish you had done this video about 2 years ago. took my wife's car to a machine shop recommended by a great mechanic. they stated the rust in the pan couldn't be fixed. so I sold the car to a junk yard. great idea and would have definitely gotten the old car passed inspection. thanks for the great idea eric.
In the old days, before video cameras were cheap. You got a friend to get inside the trunk with a flashlight, then sprayed it with a hose.
Yep, been there, done that.
I still do that sadly
I remember it was a yearly ritual to fix rust on my dad's 84 suburban,mainly the rocker panels and doors. Pop rivets, bondo, drywall screen, fiberglass cloth and resin, VIOLA! Done!! You do what you have to do when pinching pennies!
This is a great video. really human, intelligent and comfortable to watch. Many thanks to you Eric.
This is what I did on my 83 S-10. It works very nicely and is a quick weekend job for the most part. Glad to see I'm not the only one who loves the fiber cast repairs.
+Bighappy This repair is still holding. Even after much abuse on the S10.
For those having trouble finding the tiger hair. Bondo Glass is a good substitute which will be easier to find at like ace/homedepot/walmart type stores.
This is titled "the hack way", so people dissing this method can f off. By the time this work "fails" the car will be in the bone yard. It fixed the problem and included insightful information. Good job ETCG!
Good video Eric. I use the bondo all the time. Its great and I feel a little under rated. Don't worry about the miss match paint. Its better than it was before and really does not look that bad.
as an apprentice mechanic and apprentice body repair man what you just did is almost exactly what i learnt in my course for body repair except we would also rivit on a small patch piece of metal too
Body work has always seemed daunting. The welding is easy enough, and a welded skeleton offers better structure. Even the bondo is a learnable skill, though I have found it to be surprisingly humbling. But what holds me back is the paint, which is a subspecialty not easy to reproduce in any backyard garage.
Function over form I always say. I think this is a fantastic repair! I've had leaks before and I wish I'd known about this. The red paint does look pretty funky, but like you said: $500 car! I love that you're honest about it being a driveway method that will not hold a candle to a professional body shop fix. This isn't THE BEST WAY, but it is getting by, and realistically that's what most people who DIY are looking for.
As a bodyman I would have put a piece of masking paper/wax paper, on the inside of the trunk, with the coated side facing to the outside of the car. I would have ground the metal a little better, and I would have ground the end of the vent that fits in the rusted out area. Mix up the fiberglass/hardener, put your hand in the trunk against the masking paper and schmuck the filler generously in the area affected. Take the vent and push it into it's opening, and work it into the fiberglass. Once you're happy with the orientation let it harden up. Trim excess filler while its still warm, and brush black gravel guard over it...and voila, the vent helps fill the hole and is stuck in place by the filler, the masking paper on the inside can be peeled off and will be smooth and not sticky. Who is going to take the vent out after anyway! You can use scrap paint to approximate the colour...or brush black gravel guard on the corresponding area on the other side to make it look like it was always there. Eric,I would never use it on a floor pan unless you only have a small hole, because if you drove over something substantial on the road it could come up right through the floor like a hot knife through butter. For the floor use 22 gage sheet metal shaped into a pan,and pop rivet it as a bare minimum. Cheers... from Mark the Canadian bodyman.
Does transmission show on diagnostic scanners
Something that was not mentioned... Eric stabilized the metal and rust prone areas from further rust and rot...
KUDOS Eric, I would have approached said task, exactly as you did. I like the "paper on paper method".
I needed the aluminum mesh to add to structure (could have benefit from P-O-P approach)
It was about function... not about cosmetics... Job well done! Glad that I watched, TY.
Wire wheels are shit for removing rust, because it will appear as if you removed all the rust, when in fact all you did is polish the thick hard rust which gives it a bare metal "appearance". Even as a temporary fix, he should have used a grinder with a rough sanding disk. EXAMPLE: @ 5:26 some polished rust chips falls off after he hits it with a hammer. Dont use a wire brush.
That been said, i still love ericthecarguy, and i think he's the best on youtube imo.
Rust / iron oxide requires oxygen to thrive the main catalyst for the rusting process is water allied ....that warm moist environment in the trunk would have been a great home for same....now that the leak is fixed and the repair has been made it should hold up big time.... a quick brush coat of glass fiber resin after that repair inside the trunk would have been ....just the icing on that cake but that was a serious repair .............great upload..... thanks
Great video for showing how to fix an old rusty car for a while. I'm doing that right now to a 16 year old Honda Civic I got for a pittance and if it lasts me a year I'll be happy, all I was looking for was to make it clean enough so I wouldn't get stopped by the cops for inspection. Another thing I did on another car years ago and it lasted a long time was to run a cord soaked in black rubberized caulking on the inside of the wheel well where it meets with the quarter panel, gives it tremendous strength and prevents rust from road salt. And when looking for a beater try to get one in a dark tone, it's much easier to paint match, especially non metallic black, whereas light tones are much harder to match, especially red 😉
For a "hack job," that turned out quite well, in my opinion. Had you gotten paint that perfectly matched the color, I dare say that that repair would've looked *very* good. Not professional-quality, to be sure, but still would've looked very, very good. Would've turned that $500 car into a $2,000 car, easy.
Shhh. I was going to offer him $650. :)
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Much more!!! It's the special edition! :-)
you know etcg takes care of his cars. that automaticially raises the value aswell.. the amount of work he does on these ; ) and its all documented on video.
TheSae24 Eric is a nice guy, and an excellent auto mechanic. I like it when he ventures outside of his comfort zone, and he usually does so successfully. Bravo, Eric.
I agree it wasn't a bad job.
Incredible attention to detail. I will follow this on my 9yr old. No rot however it has begun. Thank you.
12:40 Best piece of advise on this video..."Don't block off your screw hole."
I love your comment on waiting 24 hours on the rust inhibitor - "I'm not going to do that" .....'nuff said!
Hey Eric,
As a former body man I cringe when people pull out fiberglass with kittyhair or even alumalead as a base then more filler over that. When in all reality as a mechanic you use a airhammer and they make a hammerhead that will shape metal real quickly. With in a few minutes you can form even larger panelsand then if you don't have a welder you could put rivets in the panel or even use panel bonding materal that comes in a two part tube system and the nozzils mix the adhesive. Suprisingly you can bond these panels in quickly and the bond as long as you use a good wire brush and a small grinder called a rolex which fits on your small sidehead angle grinder that you clean off gasket materials.
You could probably do the entire rear end and trunk floor in an afternoon. My 12 year old son did his first car like that with little help from me and I was impressed. His classmates were impressed as well and a friend asked him to sell him the car so mhe bought an s-10 extended cab that he just had to have so we bought it for 300.00 and with old hoods and deck lids for his metal for his patch panels and it is really coming along ....
so you can make it with little products and have some thing that makes a descent car
I have found that patching steel panels with steel is faster and easier than fooling with fiberglass and resin. I like using solder to fill seams. About 20 years ago I had experimented grinding dies to use for forming, and the air hammer technique was one a family friend who used to work with aircraft used. By the way metal working is cheaper than the body filler as you already know.
Agreed just weld it! Something small like that is easy to weld.
Clever application of thinking outside the box. The caveat you gave earlier as to the integrity of this method speaks highly of your ethics. ie there is the Cadilac job or the VW job. No disrespect meant to either. The Sandwich Technique certainly has its place. Excellent video and advice. Many thanks for sharing. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
I love how there are so many World Class Award Winning multimillionaire professional mechanics and body repair guys out there watching hack and patch videos on TH-cam leaving their piss and vinegar comments and dooking big ole thumbs down everywhere they go. bahahahaha.
That is bordeline paranoïa to assume multimillionaires go around youtube thumbing down videos
I am glad you had someone to hold the camera for you . I watched the vedio when you changed the GMC 1991 engine ,and I whish I was there to hold the camera for you , you did great .
Im going to try this on my Bentley.
This is a very functional type of service but I think the rust has returned. You work very well.
Just watched half an hour on etcg fixing leaks when I should be studying.....
Cars....I Love Cars.....
Great selective purpose video Eric. If you have a leak you need to fix it. Especially as you said on a $500 car. This solved the problem and it that is goal. Stop the leaks the rust and getting it done! Thanks!
"The back of the can says to wait 24hrs before doing any work... I'm not gonna do that." 😂
Just because the DIRECTIONS SAY... doesn't mean you have yo follow said directions.
After all, curing will continue after it's sealed over, the curing will take longer.
That's right. 24 hrs ? Are they kidding ? Forget about it !
Man...I LOVE outside the box thinking!!! This is bucking frilliant!!!
My '92 Exploder rust bucket thanks you!!!
Just wanted to say thank you for doing all of this and sharing it... Thanks!
+Lone Wolf (Shepherd) It really helped me to, I think it is the easiest way to go for someone who doesn't know anything about body work but wants to make an old car look a little better. I will be trying his method shortly, and I am also VERY THANKFUL that there are good people sharing their knowledge with us folks who don't know much about cars. It saves us $$$$$!
^_^
this was probably the best "dirty" rust repair video i've ever seen. nice job eric!
You could have gotten a spray can that would have matched pretty close for 15 dollars or so. On of our local parts stores mixes almost any color and puts it in a spray can.
Love the fiberglass forming method. Will give it a try next time I need a quick fix that is structural.
My quick method for rocker panels is to use expanding foam insulation to fill the whole cavity. It will expand thru all the holes. After it sets up, cut off the excess that squirted out and rough sand it to shape. Then use an arylic glazing or bono to topcoat. Sand and then paint with truck bed liner. A quick way to get relatively good looking rocker panels for about $50 and a few hours work that holds up for several Michigan winters..
Love the Elvis clock...
For the antenna leak I would just take a funnel and slide it into that space underneath the antenna. Then drill a hole that goes down so water drips below to the ground. The tip of the funnel can go through the hole and The Wider side of the funnel will capture any water that drips down from the antenna. You can even use one of those flexible hose type funnels to reroute the water.
You have a camera person now! way cool.
he's had one for the last 200 videos
A decent repair and very appropriate for the value of the car. Just a tip, some auto body supply stores can mix up paint and put it in rattle cans to match your color. Not a big deal in your case as the car could really stand a repaint anyway.
All the best!
Mike
That's actually the exact right process for a vehicle of that age and value. The proper repair would have cost thousands and that's just silly.Could have matched the color a little better though and the repair would have been amazing.
Anyway, just found your channel and subed up, I bet I could learn some fun tricks here. You had me at the Edd China quote btw, love Wheeler Dealers.
Very impressive. A very practical and inexpensive, albeit time consuming repair. Very functional which is what most of us need. I can't imagine how many thousands of dollars it would cost to have an auto body shop do all of those rust repairs. That was a lot of rust! Well done.
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"BUT TODAY IS NOT THAT DAY!!!!" - Aragorn
As always, your videos should serve as a model of delivery, expertise, attitude and photo quality that the others need emulate. Your ability to take ownerships of your mistakes... and follow-ups demonstrates your character, er, honesty, which doesn't exist in the professional world of 'bodyshops'! Great to see you have a camera person, I hope she has a rack of her own.
using wax paper instead of the castrol paper floor mat will get you a clean peel every time. so you wont have any paper left on your fiber glass filler.
Parchment 👍🏻
Very helpful,specially for people like me,who need to learn and needs encouragement.thanks very much,greetings from Honduras.Blessings.
Bullet hole....
"Something came in from the outside".... Lol
When I was in High School, I had a small rust hole in the lower door on my 1993 S-10 Blazer. Being a cash strapped 18 year old at the time, I made a similar repair, except instead of using paper, I actually filled in the hole with thick aluminum foil, and then went over the entire thing with this type of filler. The foil added a nice bit of structure for it to adhere to. A lot of sanding a little bit of paint and I have to say it looked pretty good. Held up well until I sold it a couple years later.
Anything looks better than rust and rot.
Don't block of your screw hole. Words to live by. @ericthecarguy living legend
Your antenna is leaking! (You said to let you know)
Are you still in the trunk?
Awesome job, Eric!! You stopped the leak and stopped the rust from spreading further for $40!!
I don't think the value of the car now is necessarily the determining factor; it's the opportunity costs compared to alternative actions such as; buying a newer or different car, fixing the rust correctly, using filler that might cause problems down the line. I'm often coming across cars that have had filler repairs and it makes a correct repair later a real pain in the neck - some filler is so well disguised under paint, mastic or underseal that you only know about it when it falls out in a heap or catches fire when welding near it. . A well kept old car will reach a bottom value and then start to appreciate in terms of use-value and financial vale as all the problems are fixed and the bad examples are scrapped. Think of all the bodged-up VW beetles and the value of a good one now, or a 1st gen Honda Civic - if you can find one in good condition... Then there's sentimental value of an old car that has become like part of the family. For all those reasons, it's worth making a small repair panel and welding it in. The hack way might be a temporary fix but it's just trouble for the next owner or the last nail in the coffin that need not be.
Well, obviously you've never been broke with only one car and a boss who will fire you if you miss another day of work then.
It is true the value of a vehicle goes back up as it becomes more rare. My '93 MR-2, which was a very low volume production vehicle to begin with (more Corvettes were built that year), is worth thousands of dollars more now than when I bought it ten years ago.
Not so James, I've been broke many times due to some serious health problems and have taken the bus and walked when the car has been off the road. But the MOT (UK) is only once a year and welding materials are cheaper than filler. It's true I haven't had a boss who will fire me for missing a day since I was a young man and latterly I've been self employed to avoid those situations. Anyway, scabby bodywork doesn't prevent the car from getting you to work.
Hi guys! When I did similar body work on my 93 Civic all the part stores said that the car was so old that Dupli-Colour no longer makes the OEM colour. I was thinking what am I going to do now? I took off the gas tank door and I went to Canadian Tire (a car part store), compared it to all the spray cans they had and I found a newer model Ford colour that was just the perfect match. If you guys spend long hours on the body work why not spray the car with the right colour.
Hi Eric, I like your videos, you saved me hundreds of Dollars already. Thank you very much! The Civic is gone since than, now I have a 96 Accord and a 2003 Element. I just spent a CND $1000 at my local Honda dealer on a new timing belt job. If I would live near you you would be my mechanic. - Fungarian.
Stop, stop! It's leaking at the antenna!!
I love how you didn't tape off or cover up anything. Body work the right way is time consuming, I have done my fair share believe me. Great vids
Actually, you should paint the bare metal with rust preventive paint before applying the bondo/fiberglass whatever goop.
The stuff is pretty bubbly so it absorbs a nice amount of moisture.. Now it's a piece of bondo that traps water between it and the metal so it rots the metal around it.. But a simple squirt of rust preventer on top of that metal and that problem is solved..
Also do this to the freshly drilled surfaces if you drill holes to metal.. Not a single piece of metal should not be left bare.
He did....
Didn't realise he used a clearcoat.. All i saw was bare metal and bondo added but after rewatching and skipping to the point before the apply of bondo i saw him use clear coat.. Man i'd use a old paint brush and brush on some rust prevention paint that contains lead in it..
V4 Garage That's not actually clearcoat. That is the stuff that chemically reacts with the rust and changes its composition so it is rock hard and wont rust any further, also doubles as a primer coat.
Paul Childers If it's sprayed on a very rusty body panel, will it stay rust free forever?
Is the rock hard substance weldable? Is it durable enough so it won't crack and crumble away? How does this chemical work exactly?
good rust converter has tannic acid in it, which reacts with the iron oxide (rust) and turns it into iron tannate, and also contains a polymer that acts as a primer and turns the area into something you can paint again
Cool video. When you sealed me up inside the trunk it gave me a slight flashback to the days where we used to sneak extra people into the drive-in theater lol.
...and this is why you never buy a car from a mechanic :D
most of them will sell it to you way cheaper then anyone else and mechanically they will be fine. But I forget Millennial only care about looks. Enjoy your shitty new cars that don't last past their warranties.
@@MAGWolf bs. Lots of them have issues because when you get home you dont want to do the job you do all day in the shop. I have lots of work to do at home and I put it off because I dont want to go home and set up tools and work all day, some people need to spend time with family so you actually still have one at the end of the day
I always watch an ETCG video whenever it comes out! I may not need to do the stuff in the video or ever plan to, but it's too good not to watch. Thanks Eric!
body work is so expensive to do right even if you do it yourself. Paint is so expensive
gatewaysolo104 You can buy a good quality paint online. There's an store here I have them make my paint in a rattle can for 16 bucks. A good brand too. Online around 19 to 25 dollars. Clear around the same. I use a clearcoat blender to blend into the surrounding clear. Yes bodywork can be tricky, But it doesn't have to expensive.
Here's an alt I thought of. Duct tape from the inside to create a more uniform plate, mud from the outside. The tape releases easily and then seal the deal on the second pass. Less finishing pain. Genius!
Still too much work. I'd just cover it over with duct tape to keep water out.
that would only work for so long. Moisture and duct tape don't get a long very well.
i kno u trolling but some people are gullible. grow up?
Good job Eric. Well done. I have a 2006 Avalanche and the rocker arms on both sides are starting to blister a little bit. I think your technique will give me another 2 or 3 years before I will need to completely replace the rocker arms. Thanks again brother.
Awful lotta work to finish it off with a paint that doesn't even come close to matching... I would have had a huge dent to repair after i smashed my forehead into that bright red paint.
+Kevin Woodcock lol, he could have just repainted the entire car which needed it anyway.
Kevin Woodcock Don't forget, he said it's only a $500 car.
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Kevin Woodcock they have that color at Walmart maybe he didn’t feel like going out and used one he already had laying around
Nice repair job, Eric. I had a Mazda that had rust 'eat' up the rear wheelwell corners of the quarter and also right about in the same places. I always wondered why the trunk was damp or wet after snowmelt or thunderstorms. The bumper cover was popping off where it was supposed to attach very much like the Vigor, and upon pulling it back, a few rustholes. Even though I linked to this thru your Dec 2017 video, it was great seeing it done. I happen to enjoy bodywork as well as repairs, but no longer have a garage, so I performed the necessary-only type job like you did. Very useful info. Unfortunately, I used Bondo and it works well on panels, just not as well on edges(like the wheelwell corner repair) and some chipped away.
Doesn't really matter now, I did this repair in spring 2015 and the car bit the dust in summer 2015, so its gone, replaced by a much newer car that I am trying to keep rust-free long as I can, altho it is Michigan and this winter has been brutal so far.
I dont agree to a job like this at all!! Welding and replacing the metal yes. Shaping the metal and incert it! Please people dont plaster a car with puddy. Never mix puddy on cardboard. Watch Auto body vids and see the differance!! The quarter panel can be painted. A painter would know how. The entire car dosent need to be painted in this case!!
If you have a vehicle that you need to get through just one more state inspection or carry you until you get your tax refund...it makes sense to go as cheaply and minimal as you possibly can. Then take that money and labor and put it into your replacement vehicle. If your replacement is bought for less than five grand, it will in all likelihood need work!
Yeah well then it would make sence. I lookin at it from a pespective of a proper proceedure.
20rich02 "Proper" procedure is completely dependent on whether your budget will allow for it. If you have a friend or relative who can help you do the work the "right" way, or do it for you at little cost, then go for it. Otherwise you'll have to do the best you can with what you can afford and to the best of your ability, even if the outcome is less than perfect but good enough see you through.
WoW 1 million subscribers, you have came a long way an taught me so much. Thank you Eric, i think i have been following you since 23,000 subscribers. maybe 230,000. i got a bad memory so i just come back an watch more videos when i forget lol.
STICK TO MECHANIC WORK LOL
Your hair looks so much better short in my opinion. Looks great man. Not a huge fan of the pony tail but you do you.
You should plasti dip the whole Eric
Costs more than a real DIY paint job.
DAMN DUDE, LOOKING GOOD AND HEALTHY. Looks like you have your shit together and are enjoying life. Your old videos show you over weight and looking a little on the depressed side. Love the new you, keep on doin whatcha do.
You got lazy with the colour match oops color match.
I never saw the can when I bought it. My parts guy sent it to me. I just asked for 'dark red', this is what I got. I'm not worried, the entire car needs paint. I don't think it looks any worse than the pealing clear coat.
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As my 95 Civic is developing typical hondacancer in the rear quarters,this is the type pf repair I do,as rust appears. For color match, i use the "pens" of the correct color available at parts stores.I have a small modelling airbrush,and pour the paint into the color cup.It may take a small while on a small area to spray,but the color match is better.
EricTheCarGuy It's funny that the dark red turn out to be "firetruck red" like you described it, the color representations on cans and such are always so misleading.
nik12937 Yeah, even the factory codes are off. Last time I had to buy 3 different cans to get an acceptable match...
mutznutzgamer Even if you do use the original colour code from the factory, you have to allow for oxidation and all round paint degradation over time. Red pigments are notoriously affected by ultra-violet light from the sun, we've all seen it on older cars. It looked as though Eric used a solid red and the car is more a metallic cranberry.
Anyway, it's his junker to do with as he pleases, so if Eric's happy, then cool.
Personally, I would have been more meticulous with the colour. The car is in bad enough shape to chip a bit of paint off and take it to a paint supplier for matching. :-)
BTW Props for not giving a toss so much, it's an old motor with crap paintwork that doesn't leak anymore. A lot of people are going to faint though, ahh well, sensitive souls ;P
Eric great job man, with money being tight on some ppl's incomes this is sometimes a way out, thanks a million really learned something today and keep em rolling sir.
I've always been told that there is another difference between the 2 different fillers(regular filler vs fiberglass filler) besides just strength. Regular filler is porous, whereas it will soak up water. I'm told the fiberglass filler is not. It's kind of like the difference between primer and paint. People will cover their work with primer, thing that it has sealed their work, just to find rust showing a short time later. Paint is actually what will seal it from water.
Not a bad hack and pack. Good enough for a daily beater. I've made similar repairs with glass bondo. They lasted me several years. I've also used Gorilla Tape to repair a inner fender well to repair the cracked plastic and covered it under coating. Still going strong for 3 years.
Tiger hair has been a lot of help for me with old beaters. Thanks Eric. Cloth and fiberglass resin works really well also, not on cosmetic areas though.
To all the haters, lol this was CLEARLY more of an instructional video for the DIYer and what to look out for if anything from a cheap auto shop. All I got from this was knowledge. why the hate...
and someone with common sense, wear a fucking mask when working with DUST/MICRO SHRAPNEL AKA GRINDING SHIT/FIBER "GLASS" YOU DO NOT WANT THAT IN YOUR LUNGS
I know exactly what you mean about losing patience doing bodywork. I am in awe of folk that can spend days doing one panel ;-)
I dont know if it was mentioned already or not, didnt want to read 700 comments lol, and who knows by now you may use it but a friend taught me long ago, using this method, except he used wax paper, peels right off with no problems, and you can actually kinda sorta see through it as well. Love your vids man, good job..
Always enjoy your videos. I have just replaced my brake shoes on the lupo. I say just, was about 5 hours ago. Came across a few issues, but I have stuck it on my website to save everyone else the trouble (homage to etcg). I really wish I could make a video up to your standard, but being brought up as a country boy in the uk makes it difficult to be taken seriously (I am proper paranoid). Look forward to more videos as always Eric
Hi Eric. Love the video. I didn’t have a floor mat so I used a trash bag. Works great and no paper residue.
clever and a useful to realize not all situations demand the professional approach.
A more than fair job on an old junker. Great video, very informative.
I did this on my 1991 Honda Concerto, but for a large hole in a similar place, I placed wire mesh across it and it worked well
I might give this hack a try, i have 2 small holes where the bolts of the right trunk hinge go, i don´t want to spend like $600+ on body work just to cover 2 small holes, you da man Eric!
Looks a lot better than it did even with the color difference. Consider that a successful repair. Should last for years to come. Good job.