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- ZERO POINT MODULE: An Ancient power source, and containing energy compatible with Ancient technology - including the Stargates themselves. A Z.P.M. derives its enormous power from vacuum energy, drawn from a self-contained region of subspace time, and if not being actively discharged it has the potential to last for many millions of years. For the city of Atlantis, the Z.P.M.s are vital to its operations ...
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For almost the entire length of the Atlantis show I kept asking myself, "When the hell are they gonna find the one room in that city-ship that holds the device that manufactures new ZPMs?" There's gotta be some machine or facility that pumps those things out. They don't grow on trees. The Ancients had to have something that made more of them.
i was thinking the same LOL, even the replicators knew how to make them. They did say the acient database contained too much data and it would take them a long time to look at everything.
In the comics they made a mark 12 naquadah power generator producing enough power to power Atlantis, the shields and drone chair to use so there's no reason to make zpm and they can easily get there hands on liquid naquadah from all staff weapons from Gau'ld , one vile of can power a city or Stargate , if I stargate command I would of collected all the naquadah cores from the dead gau'ld soldiers that they killed and earth would have a huge energy source and can make more spaceships lol
Even in an alternative timeline a mark 12 was able to power the shield for 800 years and this was after some level of dormant state of 48000 years
And in the comic a mark 4 could almost power the whole city in gateways
For the greater part, every advancement in the shows is earned. You can trace every piece of tech on the Tau'ri ships back to individual episodes. So, you wouldn't find something like this. Had the 3rd series not been loathed by the petulant children in the fandom and the scummy SiFi, maybe, maybe we would've gotten a clue about the creation of ZPMs. The closest we got was with the Asurans.
There was actually an episode where they found this room, rodney was experimenting with it, but it'd have meant that they'd destroy another alternate Universe(thats where alternate reality Atlantis team appeared), so they stopped doing that.
The device Jack built for "The Fifth Race" episode didn't actually burn out, as stated in a later episode they just needed to swap something or flip something or whatever to make it work again and it's being studied at Area 51.
No they sent it with the Carter from the alternate universe to contact the asgard
Jack didn’t “build” that earth-type ZPM... he MacGyvered it
It's also *not a ZPM.* We literally _see_ O'Niell fuel it with Naquada from a captured staff weapon. Considering they watched him build it they could build as many as they wanted *except* that they couldn't even get the original running until the Two Carter's had the know-how to "measure the decay rate of Naquada".
This further confirms it's the _first Naquada generator they got their hands on_ AND tells us they could duplicate the gate booster any time they wanted. Makes it pretty odd they never chose to build thousands of "lower quality ZPM" if it ever was a ZPM which we know it's not.
Dude managed to make a mistake that bad in a three minute vid? It's a shame he still hasn't fixed it.
@@Phil-rs5wl After they got it _working again._ After basically videoing it being made. Yet after they figure out how to make it go they immediately start building Naquada generators instead of more "lower quality ZPMs."
Why it's almost like it's obviously not a ZPM _at all._ I wonder what it could be then 🤔🤦♂️
i actually didn't know that the device jack built was mirrored after the ZPM design, i just thought he was creating an inverter that could use the staff weapon's power source and apply it to be used to open the wormhole outside of the milky way to the asgard home world.
the weird thing about this is it took an entire planet as a power source to dial the 9th and final chevron to gate to Destany, the planet was used as a power source with an almost unlimited potential for energy to gate to the Destiny.
i can't really think of a reason why they needed an entire planet to power one gate to the destiny, unless they intended to travel to the Destiny as an entire race all at once or something.
oh wait, maybe this is how the SGU gates operate, before the gates were upgraded to run with Naquadah on demand, it's possible that they were powered by the planet's core they occupied, i mean it makes sense does it not?
the destiny works like this when it comes down to recharging it's own engines as well as powering it's stargate, so it only makes sense this is how the first stargates were powered.
but the gate that's tied into that planet that was destroyed, wasn't the old design gate, it was the second version, which means there was a reason why they chose this model instead of the other version.
it could be that this gate was upgraded to handle much more distance and also that it's design was more capable of making the connection that all the rest simply could not. i mean we know that the older style gates were limited to how far they could be used within the solar system that they occupied, so it only makes sense that they installed this one instead.
I will always posit a thought that in an obscure and unexplored part of the Pegasus galaxy, there is a hidden, possibly underground, facility which makes the ZPM, which only the Lantean High Council have access to.
Awesome video, I once got to be a guest of the show hold a ZPM and play with it. There were so few mobile actual light up zpm the Atlantis and SG1 crew used to play hide the zpm. Also I sat in the chair at 0:40 and they lit it for me :-).
Awesome! What a great story.
@@GateWorldDotNet lol, i have lots of stories and some pictures (though many of terrible quality). i was sworn to not tell them, but i think enough time has passed ( and they are all good and about how nice everyone was). I have a few shots in SG1 EP214 and Atlantis EP 80 (and no you don't credited as non union / non speaking lol).
@@GateWorldDotNet and i changed my profile picture just for this thread, and yes that's me in a puddle jumper :-)
I miss Stargate. Please bring it back. 🙏
Ten years is more than long enough for any TV show (although there are some that have been on for twice that long), but it does set a precedent for sci-fi shows. Anyway, the stars are all past their prime so it wouldn't be the same.
@@krane15 what an awful way to live. Past their prime? So anyone over 30 shouldn’t be in a tv show?
That’s a very weird thing to say.
In any event, I’m not alone wanting stargate to return and we look forward to it with the “past their prime” actors.
You don’t need to watch. 😂
@@kpwpe Do you know of a lot of 50 and 60 year old signing up for the military? Think about the type of show Stargate was. They were military that go out on missions, walk everywhere, fight bad guys, get beat-up, brainwashed and taken hostage. How many middle-aged people can pull that off convincingly?
Sylvester Stallone was able to do it (The Expendables), but he's in exceptional conditions, and his part was in a one time movie, not a weekly TV series.
Pretty neat! And a timely video, as I am doing a Stargate re-watch now.
Any stargate never gets old...😊
You do good work. Thanks for a great series of many high quality videos. You are a real pro !
Thanks for watching!
This series was so cool
With Atlantis being a city ship shouldn't there be somewhere in the city that has the ability to manufacture more zpm's?
There probalby is, they just haven't found it yet, it's a big city
I dont think so. Maybe at one time. But their war with the wraith would have changed that. Stopping them from getting ZPMs would have become a priority, and all production of these devices would have been done in a few key places. Haveing a facility on the city would have compromised it no end. It similar thinking to why they never equipped their war ships with hyperdrives capable of intergalactic travel as standard. And why even though aurora class war ships had the capacity to hold a ZPM we never see one equipped with a ZPM. Again, a precaution against the ships being captured and the ZPMs being stolen. There will be a facility out there somewhere where production of ZPMs takes place. And I also dont think they are as "easy" too produce as people seem to think.
@@shoulderescape They said many times that they has only explored a small part of the city. They used the analogy of all the apartments in Manhattan. Not to mention some rooms have hidden or special access.
@@nihilityjoey The city was the only secure place in the galaxy from the wraith, its the only place where zpms could be made, except maybe another galaxy, but that seems far fetched
@@krane15 agreed
One answer to a question that gets asked a lot is why the Atlantis team never found a ZPM manufacturing site. I think a really cool answer to this might be that ZPMs took a long freaking time to make. If manufacturing even 1 took upwards of 10 years or so that would explain how the Wraith were able to overtake such a technologically advanced enemy.
Being overconfident the Ancients may have expended a large number of their ZPMs in the beginning of the war not being used to the nature of war. Then one realizing the size of the Wraith fleet being unable to easily produce more ZPMs in a given time.
I always like to remember that Ancients tended to operate on timescales much larger than we're used to. What if a fully functioning ZPM took 1000 years to create?
It would make sense that they would take a while to make. Following the idea that they take a long time to create, it's possible they're grown. Obviously not in a way implying that they occur naturally, but that part of the process involves creating a starting point and placing them in a specifically fashioned environment that would allow them to "grow". It might also help explain the natural-esk and non-uniform shapes.
it would be great if someone produced powerbanks in the shape, color and approximate size of ZPM. And also so that it could be used as a small lamp that could either be plugged into electricity or powered by a battery. That would be great and cool.
My thoughts exactly. 💯
I've seen some pretty awesome 3D-printed fan creations!
They never bolstered the shields with naquadah generators. They only used them to keep the lights, computers, etc on.
What the video says is that the Z.P.M.'s power output was bolstered by the generators - not that they were used to bolster the shields specifically. (There's a bit of dialogue in "Rising" about the fact that the generators wouldn't come close to powering the shields on their own, but that's about as specific as it got.)
I alway thought that there was some efficiency issues with a ZPM. That while there are vast amounts of energy in a ZPM you can only efficiently extract it a little at a time. That’s why they are used in tandem. To extract a large amount of energy all at once from a single ZPM means you would only get a fraction of the potential energy inside. Like with any device, you push it too hard to it’s performance limits and it’s life expectancy will be drastically cut short. That would explain how single ZPMs seem to be like dollar store batteries, dying in no time flat, but when used in tandem they will last for thousands of years.
I love the Stargate Zero Point Module .
I just realized that Rick uses a ZPM to power his car!
hmm well I am guessing the car would wear out before the zpm ran out just saying🤣🤣
even an all electric car would never use enough power to deplete the zpm before that because a ZPM holds to much power🤣🤣
Thats actually a good point i never looked at oniels power device as a human zpm
Great summary… I will say, I always had an issue with Stargate Atlantis. It never explained why they can’t just make more ZPMs… it’s assumed they don’t understand the technology, but I wish they would have gone into more detail about it instead of that silly project arctuos episode
maybe they do grow, maybe not on trees, but maybe they grow in caves. the tokra had this tech that was designed to grow caves while using crystals, and the goa'uld used crystals to control their ships, and the Alteran used crystals for all kinds of things, anything from control crystals to crystals infused with power to run their tech, even the DHD had crystals and there were multiple each used for another purpose, we saw crystals used in ring transporters and we saw them in ships.
so it's even possible that that the crystals that are made up with the ZPM's are used for different purposes other than just power source.
when you look at a powered ZPM you see multiple colored crystals fused with other crystals that form the ZPM structure, maybe only a few hold power and the rest are used as control crystals that do other functions within conjunction of them all working together creates the final product in how they work.
Anubis for example was at one point after a crystal that was red looking, it was kind of small and it originally belonged to the goa'uld Ra and was found within the Abydos pyramid structure hidden away because it held great power within conjunction of other crystals.
and when these other crystals were joined by Anubis, they were not only used to power his ships main weapon, but it was used to also protect his ship from any attack from other ships who challenged his power.
it's funny to think that the knowledge that the goa'uld and the Tokra have, when it comes to the creation of these crystals could be used to create a ZPM, but to charge them is another story, however it's possible they don't need to be powered by Zero Point Energy at all, because Anubis didn't have a ZPM to power his ship, but he had other power sources being used within conjunction of these crystals, if you recall him being very interested in Naquadria which was a much more unstable but much more powerful source than Naquadah.
he just needed to learn how to use this power source and get passed it's instabilities in order to use it as an beneficial source to up the game on making him much more powerful than any of the system lords who weren't on his side.
so maybe a ZPM doesn't need Zero Point Energy to be used, but they do need to figure out how to charge them.
like i know Rodney destroyed that recharge station, so it's not like they can go there and get their ZPM's recharged, but they can always use another source of power to get things done.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w i love the idea that the different color crystals of the ZPM have a purpose. That just solidifies the idea that the writers only ever intended to use the ZPMs as a mcguffin. They never intended the team to research the technology.
I suppose you make ZPS the same way they made the Holy Grail, so a normal human could never make one as he cant control the device...
I always wondered why Rodney never did a search for energy or power using the Atlantis computers. You would think the Ancients would of recorded how to make ZPMs.
he probably did try but the easy search took too much power and they would need to understand which they don't because as they say it will take a lifetime or two to go through it
also doesn't help they need to decipher it as well, it to the point where even with advanced data storage they could only take 10% of the deciphered stuff with them if they needed to leave let alone all the none deciphered stuff
it like a caveman getting access to the internet and being asked make a nuclear power plant(or whatever the new not fully understood tech is because zero point extraction was something they were still working on)
as a matter of fact the database does contain the ZPM research but they don't understand said research same with sheild, ascension and weapons research
also information on every planet with a stargate in both milky way and Pegasus and so much more
there the plans for Atlantis and so much more as well
It's weird that ZPM's can strengthen other technology to unbelievable levels such as the daedalus's shield reflecting a huge mass ejection from the sun, which was classed as unlike anything you have ever seen by Rodney. However, an Aurora class vessel bolstered by a zpm can be overwhelmed by a few wraith ships
“Millions of years”. Every time that number came up I can just imagine the writers kicking themselves for being tied to it. It’s such an absurdly long time for technology to last and, more importantly, remain unchanged. Atlantis was the same a million years ago and 10,000 years ago. Crazy stuff
I largely agree that the scale is too big for most of what the writers ended up doing with it. It allows enough time for things like biological evolution (the Wraith, seeded human civilizations, etc.), and for the Ancients to have had multiple empires that are long since gone. But it's a whole lot of empty space on the timeline.
The movie toyed with the age of the gate being somewhere around 10,000 years, which seems more realistic. But, on the other hand, that timeline doesn't give the writers nearly enough wiggle room if that's when the Ancients were running around putting up Stargates to begin with.
Yep! Stargates and Atlantis and Asurans are technology so you need to be on the thousands scale, but ascension and wraith evolution are biology so you need to be on the millions scale. It’s an unfortunate corner we’ve been written into.
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Maybe that’s the beauty of the whole thing… What the next series needs to explore. For instance, did you know the following?
The Ancients stopped producing ZPMs. For security reasons, they had much bigger fish to fry. ZPM production methods were solely entrusted to the Furlings.
And after the fifth race had defeated the ascended Ori, (no small feat) the ascended Ancients had made contact with the Furlings once more, asking them to return to the Milky Way for the purpose of assisting the Humans.
Furlings agree. And they just so happen to pick up the crew of the Destiny along the way to Earth.... where they share their knowledge with Mankind.
But unannounced to our heroes, Furlings have been charged with a second mission. Judge mankind.
Because it would seem, the humans have the ability to wipe out ascended beings from the Milky Way universe as well.
And the Furlings must either guide Mankind in all moral and ethical decisions… Or destroy them.
Would you watch that series?
Citation needed.
@@gmradio2436 lol
All this information seems very silly put together, did this information by chance come from the novels?
I personally don't take the novels as Cannon especially when they have such silly solutions that are not believable at all when it comes to the Show and The lore of the show.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w My apologies. I only worded it that way for fun. What I mean is… That this information will be discovered if this particular series was written.
@@JamieHitt
oh lol. now i understand. have you read any of the novels and the silly stories that i'm talking about?
It would be neat if we could actually create ZPM's as a way of getting clean energy - but I fear that if we could create them, someone would find a way to turn them into even better bombs, or power even worse weapons. Far from allowing us to clean up our act, it would probably bring about our extinction.
You would think the Ancient would be smart enough to leave blue prints on how to build a ZPM.
they probably did, show was just cancelled before we found the bigger homeworld lol. "there's always a bigger fish"
It's probably in the repository of knowledge, and there is probably one on board Atlantis in an area that has never been explored, you got to remember there were a lot of places on Atlantis they never got to explore.
They probably have a zpm recharging station I'm bored as well that we don't know about.
On board as well. Sorry I'm using text-to-speech on my phone.
I'd have thought old time travelled Weir would have asked for 3 zpms to be made and hidden for the team to find on arrival after the episode.
She asked for 1, they said no...
great video. A question I always had was since the Atlantis people had access to the city database why didn't they ever try to make a ZPM? There HAD 2 be directions in that database SOMEWHERE IMO?!
You got know what the name is to be able to search for it.
At the very least alternative timeline Weir could have asked Janus to write it down for her. Or maybe he could have just left a crate of them for the future Atlantis expedition. Doesn't seem like these things were exceptionally rare during the war.
Plot device can’t have them be to powerful.
@@mysteriousboozebunny6534 they were rare otherwise the Wraith wouldn't have had a hard time getting ahold of one to kickstart their drone and ship production to overwhelm the ancients. also why do people think the city ship would have a zpm factory on board? NYC doesn't have a uranium processing plant or ability to make nuclear power plants. odds are zpm production was a specialized facility located somewhere in the Pegasus galaxy and location kept secret or perhaps even self destructed so the Wraith wouldn't get ahold of it.
Wait, didn't the Ripple Effect Carters figure out a way to make the O'Neill one work again? Or maybe duplicate it?
I'm not seeing any references in the "Ripple Effect" transcript. You might be thinking of another AU story, Season 3's "Point of View." There the two Carters did get the device working for one more dial-out (to contact the Asgard in the AU).
@@GateWorldDotNet Probably! I defer to you on this!
@@specialnewb9821 GateWord = Jack O'Neill after he stuck his head in the ancient repository.
Cool.
Another thing I hope as happen in the planned Stargate revival they have reverse engineered the technology
I hope they master Nuclear Fusion with the help of ancient and Asgard tech. Ships and cities would be powered similarly to Destiny then and it could be a safe way to send a team to it with supplies and stable gate activation.
I highly doubt that would be the case in the immediate future. Give the SGC 100 years or more.
I would think they can with the Asgard database. The Asgards know all these things.
Definitely. I'd imagine they'd have figured out how Orlin made a minigate from scratch in Carter's basement. They had the materials list from her credit card, lol.
They'd definitely have to have some home grown knockoff of a puddle jumper too. Maybe with just a Goauld cloak and shields, etc but it's too useful not to have.
Even better would be to learn How and Where the Atlantians created the ZPMs in the first place. I have my guesses as to where...
I blame McKay. I always call these things ZedPMs
Zed sounds better than Zee 😂
Damn polite Canucks, it's hard to stay mad at them 😉.
@@sigma80 Makes spotting Stargate Atlantis fans easy. Most have this trait.
The device built by O'Neil isn't a zpm it's more of a booster, think of it like a single use battery for the stargate
I would tend to think the same, except that (a) the design came from the Ancient repository, and (b) the unit is powered by a small vial of liquid naquadah. It's hard to imagine how that alone could provide the power for an 8-chevron dial.
@@GateWorldDotNet I'm stating whit the cannon nothing more, I do know that in a pinch they can use naquada reactors, just like they did in the siege of Atlantic,
I always thought Jack's device was a kind of naquadah generator since it used the naquadah from a staff weapon.
It was nothing like a ZPM.
@@common_c3nts in a sense it is, it useds the power cell of a staff weapon for power, bbut its purpose is to boost the power requirements, not to actualy power anyting,like a bartery, our a capacitor.
Thkx
ZPMs = the Ancient's version of triple A batteries.
On a serious note: What about the Eyes of the Goa'uld? I reckon, that they were also created by the Ancients after their return form Pegasus, no?
We don't really know where the Eyes came from, as far as I recall. They could have been Ancient, or developed by a Goa'uld scientist, or possibly developed by the Goa'uld based on the Ancients' work.
The fact that Atlantis used 3 ZPMs is rather telling. On the one hand, it tells us that 1 ZPM was not enough. These devices, while powerful, had limits. On the other hand, it tells us that the Lanteans didn't use more. More is more, so why not 4, or 10, or 100 ZPMs? I think the answer to that is because there is a limit to how much energy Lantean technology can utilize.
We see in The Return that the crew of the Tria are able to access systems of Atlantis that the expedition didn't even know existed. I think this is partly due to superior Ancient Technology Activation Genes, but also some other mysteries of the Ancients. So I think it's likely that there are manufactories for ZPMs and other essentials that Atlantis needs, but they aren't obvious to the expedition. The Lanteans only had 3 ZPMs in Atlantis at a time because that was how much Atlantis needed. They only had so many drones and puddle jumpers because that was how much Atlantis needed. They probably took more ZPMs, drones, and puddle jumpers with them than they left behind, only to destroy them before ascending (or leave them in convenient hidden locations for SG crew to discover).
I love ankcient tech.
@Jeff Davis that is how he pronounces that word 😀
2:47 Actually... they were able to fix it and use it a second time... however, it was taken to an alternate reality/universe where earth had been taken by Apophis, and it was used to contact the Asgard and save that version of earth.
And when they looked inside the ZPM they found the Teenieverse, where people would operate their gooble boxes to power their culture, and the rest of that energy was diverted to power actual important things in our world.
You know what would have been a satisfying story arc for me? Remember that one time Rodney McKay almost ascended but then chickened out at the last moment? What if he took these principles and taught the Asurans how to ascend?
stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Asuran
stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Oberoth
The Asurans were humanoid replicators who were created by the original Atlanteans before they ascended and greatly wished to join them.
Asurans also knew how to create more ZPM's.
McKay begins ascension training for the Asurans and in exchange they begin supplying Atlantis with crates of fresh ZPM's.
Everyone wins.
Sure, make something go horribly wrong along the way so we can all panic, but how great of an idea would that have been?
Even the human form replicators could build zpms.
ZPMs manages to be a Mcguffin, a DeusExMAchina and a plothole all in one. Magnificient work of imaging by the writers.
I wish I heard the name that the ancients used for it
Potentia?
I wonder if it's possible to "recharge" a ZPM, and why they never discussed / tried this.
I think why the ZPMs were inconsistent is cause they were thousands of years old, even if fully charged it could degrade over the years so wasting lot of power in the usage. But they also seemed pretty weak for some reason too, i doubt one of them would be enough to power our current earth for 1 day.
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I always wonder why Atlantis didn't have a ZPM production lab.
I always wished they explained why they couldn't make more of them. I know ZPMs were a super helpful plot device McGuffin but surely one of the first things they researched in the ancient data base was how to create more of them. I wish we had a good story based reason why they couldn't.
We have the plans for the Saturn V. But there is no way to manufacture it anymore without the people and the machines from that time.
@@nietscherarek That's a nice theory. I can come up with several. My point is they didn't give us one when it was an obvious question. (You're not saying that was communicated in the show are you? If it was I missed it.)
Or Rodney could have made them while he was really smart that time after being blasted with the ancient ascension device 😂
@@LJGrindewald Right! Times like that. All I could think was "Ask him how to make a ZPM!!!"
If you turned it off and on again, would it reboot the pocket of subspace / universe thing and recharge the ZedPM?
@Jeff Davis It was sarcasm - something I could have imagined Shepherd asking Rodney. And not a newbie - I was a Gateworld reader since it started and watched the premiere of SGA live.
I think everyone's underestimating how difficult it may be to produce ZPMs. We know nothing about it. For all we know you need to collapse a sun to produce one.
Hi is there gg to be a comparison video for stargate atlantis and universe between the dvd and the blu ray footage?
Sean: I'm not planning on this at present, mainly because it would require me to buy a bunch of old discs I don't have and don't need. Instead we'll be doing a video quality comparison of the streaming services.
@@GateWorldDotNet ok great am looking forward to that comparison video 😁
Zero Point, reminds me of Cold Fusion Research, the Ancients had a windfall of free unlimited energy.
I kept waiting for the Atlantis expedition to find a zpm factory toward the end of the series.
For a moment I was thinking your ZPM - because of your details - it really exists ,D
I don't think Jacks device was a primitive ZPM, I think it was just a battery/supercharger he built for the Stargate. I personally doubt all of the materials required to build a ZPM could be found on earth.
Jack knew roughly the power requirements, so he used the biggest power source he had at the time, the staff weapons power supply, to attempt to power up the gate as much as he could.
I have a ZPM. It’s a pretty center piece.
then you have a PCP.
Okay, I take one dosen of them.
Is there a video for a naquadah generator?
Coming up in a few weeks! I'm editing this one now, as a matter of fact.
What if we are a micro universe in a ZedPM?
We better hope McKay doesn't get ahold of it or we're doomed then...
@@cchavezjr7 Would we even know?
@@gmradio2436 Hopefully not unless we get some kind of time dilation going on haha
Just a thought.... With Atlantis being on earth... Could they not use a zpm to dial destiny?
A Z.P.M. (or even a bunch of them) is supposedly not enough juice to dial the ninth chevron. Remember that Icarus Base only worked because it tapped into the power of an entire planet with a naquadria core.
The life span of a ZPM in active use is similar to the power levels in DBZ. After a certain point in the story, it became pointless.
Why is there no closet packed full of these in the city? Like really if one failes the city is defenseless. During the war no others where made to keep the shields up indefinitely?
Writer-producer Joseph Mallozzi has a great theory here: because production of a ZPM is fairly dangerous (cracking open pockets of subspace time and all), Atlantis has a secret lab where this work was done in a pocket universe. It's there, but (like the discovery of Janus' lab in Season 5) the team just hasn't found it yet.
ZPM - making energy from nothing. But it's depleted. Maybe ran out of nothing?
No its Zed P M
I disagree about calling the device Jack O'neill made'a version of ZPM', because it's not. It uses not only different materials but also different methods. It's like comparing solar panels and nuclear reactors and saying that a solar panel is 'a version of nuclear reactor' but without the nuclear reactions.
While the device jack made did burn out.
It was repaired after the scientists figured out the half life of Naquadah
i kept thinking that Atlantis Expedition were squandering the immeasurable knowledge left within the city itself. even if they werent able to make ZPM themselves for some reason they shouldve created a workaround. they had very good knowledge and experience with replicators and as evidenced with Fran they could make obedient replicators - such a replicator, with a downloaded copy of zpm schematics shouldnt have a problem pumping out zpms by the dozens.
-->>and if they were bolder, they shouldve gone further and make themselves their own replicator army - remember - Asurans were replicators yes, but they still had regular updates with their central data core located on their homeworld - if placed on Atlantis, it would provide perfect control through regular updates and enabling to perform code corrections if need be, could be performed in real time even while their replicator fleet/army cleanses the galaxy of the wraith.
Who invented the ZPM?
So there is a pocket universe in it? Isn't there a Rick and Morty episode about that?
Being Canadian, Rodney always pronounced it Zed-P-M.
Because a controlled version of the BigBang is easy to re-creat
What got is why they never created a new power source or made new set weapons from the data base.
Earth had advance far enough.
Why not just make a human replica with the sole task of creating a ZPM with all of the Ancient knowledge from the database? They created one that didn't turn evil, with the sole task of attracting all other replicators.
Literally just let a Replicator make a better generator would already help lol
The Gate Booster is still not a ZPM. Just saying. If you care at all you either get these details right or some jerk like me is going to be a jerk about it...
put that shit in a puddle jumper, it'd be like dropping a 454 in a little Maverick
I never did understand why they didn't just make more of them. I mean they could make new replicator bodies, but not ZPM's? Doesn't make sense.
Pretty big deal you left out: The Replicators were using and manufacturing ZPMs
Not very "efficient" if you can only use them once without being able to recharge them. Sure it can store the power for millions of years, but once depleted, it might as well be a zinc carbon battery.
it's possible they could do this, but we never got that far into the show to know if it was possible.
if i was one of these Alteran scientists, i would make it so Atlantis could not only protect the city from energy attacks, but would also built a way for the ship to absorb energy blasts to recharge the ZPM's.
i mean their older tech had this ability, the Destiny could fly closely through a star and absorb the stars heat to recharge it's power reserves and weapons, and it seemed to keep enough power in it's reserves just to protect the ship and it's inhabitants from being in the star while being charged at the same time.
the shields were on while it charged, protecting the ppl on the ship as well as protecting the ship while it charged. a very efficient and elegant design might i add.
so they had the capability as it existed in previous tech, and it's possible they had an more efficient way of implementing it, everything the Alterans did, they always upgraded on.
it's just to bad they didn't make it an automatic feature when the ZPM's were running low to switch to not only protect the city, but to also recharge the city.
i guess the only issue they might run into with that is the overburdening of certain systems running within Atlantis could break down if put under enough stress.
It makes no sense why They never found out how to make these I mean literally the very 1st episode of Atlantis Jack oneill gave the go ahead cause thought that there might be more of the zpm in Atlantis. Weir even at 1 point says that they know exactly where the information on the zpm is in the ancient database. Literally having a power source like a zpm would have solved so many issues not only Atlantis but on Earth is well and would have made Earth basically a powerhouse. So even though that was one of the main focuses for them even going to Atlantis it makes no sense that after 5 years of them being Atlantis they never found out how to make these I mean they even tried stuff that were even more complicated and more powerfulThen the ZPMMultiple time so I don't see why they would at least try to make ZPM.
It's not exactly easy to capture and store zero point energy.... and the basis of the ZPM was shown in the episode where Rodney blew up 3/4 of the solar system.
@@summoner2100 that is not how zpm was made. they were pulling zero point energy from our own universe with project acturus which was suppose to be equivalent to the energy of 12 zpms. zpms pull their energy from a acritical region of subspace. it was a method that even the ancients abonded because it caused exotic particles to form that messed with the reality the energy it was pulled from. ZPMs should of been a easier thing to make by comparison. since mckay refers to this project as the ancients last big discovery and make zpms look like akaline batteries is what he says. Those two episodes evolving that are so stupid cause as we see the ZPMs already are more energy then we need and they should be able to make as many as they want. i mean 3 zpms working one at a time being switched out over 10,000 years was enough to keep the sheild up around atlantis from the ocean. like only one of them would probably been required per city on earth and they would probably last for 100 years too even if they had to swap them out every year or so that still would better alternative. so yah they really had no reason not make zpms, goauld power cores, or even asgard power cores they had more then enough information to do either of those to get the power earth needs and that power could of been used for ships too
You got know what the name is to search for it. Beginning of SGA they were told it was one way trip and they may never get go home. Even if they had the blue prints, they may not been able to build them. For all we know it might only be able to be built by the device Merlin had to build his Ori Weapon with his mind and matter from the air.
Maybe they did try, maybe it takes years to capture the energy in it, just cause it doesn’t happen on screen doesn’t mean it didn’t happens. I mean do you think there are no toilets in Atlantis and no one poops, I mean you never see anyone poop right….. /s
@@scytob They never tried to make a zpm. It doesn't have to happen on screen. For us to know that. It was literally something they purposely ignored cause the writers never wanted the heroes to have a lot of power. Pooping we know they did cause everybody poops. Your comparison is one of the dumbest I have ever heard.
I'm still little disapointed nobody adressed why they can't manufacture more. They have the city, they have database that certainly contains blueprints and it's the most important thing ever.
Don't tell me they can't at least build the primitive version Jack put together with ducktape for emergencies.
This show was really great when it comes to humans reverse engineering alien technology and coming up with their own versions like with Prometheus.
HEAVY LIQUID NAQUADAH.
Whatever that is...
For all asking….of course there must have been a manufactoring Place in atlantis….but this is where story meets reality…once Atlantis would have learned how to make them they would be nearly undefeatable…story would be over. So they HAD to limit them….
Ahem... *zed-pm... ;)
i never understood in the Atlantis finale them saying if 2 stargates are close together the milky way gate takes priority unless the other gate is a pegasus gate then the pegasus gate takes priority... ugghh what? the ancients/alterrans after fleeing the galaxy them and the ori were from settled in the milky way for millions of years before seeding human life in the pegasus.. making the milky way the first gates, not the pegasus.... i know they needed that bit of script for the finale episode to work i guess.. they could have simply said the wraith had the tech ability to stop the planets gate making the gate on their ship the only one in the area that worked or something... i hate it when atlantis had to say things to try and make the show more than sg-1.... IT WAS NOT lol
It's obviously a plot work-around they needed for the story in this episode, but yeah. I think it makes some sense. The Pegasus gates are newer models, and could have been engineered to take precedence when in proximity to a Milky Way gate. Like your mobile carrier forcing you to upgrade your very old phone to keep using their data plan.
What's the issue? The Pegasus gates were the newer version, and more advanced. It's like going from an analog to a digital connection. The digital will be recognised first. SG1 had gates taking priority all the time, especially with the 2nd gate on Earth. So having a Pegasus gate that is newer be more dominant to an older gate makes sense.
@@summoner2100 it’s not really an issue except that ur wrong.. no matter how old a tech is, what matters is the location of that tech.. for example, the pentagon is never gonna give priority to some tech in an office in guam over an older version of the same tech in an office at the pentagon... it matters not, i just pointed out there was a simple way to do that better, thats all... but it dont really matter
@@jonathanlindsey463 the same plot was there for the midway station they said they had to find a workaround to make the gates work properly. Also the reason is that the gates don't have specific addresses they use the location for their address so it would make sense that the newer gate would take president over an older version.
Imagine if you could actually make a use real ZPMs.
The power companies are going to hate that.
Zero Point energy is a real-world thing. There are blueprints online to build a device that captures ambient energy with varying degrees of success. Nothing powerful enough to charge a ZPM though.
It is maybe possible that we have Real life funktining Zero point modules. I watched a couple of very obsure Documentarys about this
Just what man needs, more power he can't control so he can not only blow up the world but the solar system too.
You all know it is Zed Point Module right??? In Rodney I trust.
Sorry, no matter how hard I try, I can't make myself Canadian. 😉
Zed Point Module?
No. A million no. You're mixing phrases.
It's ZPM
Zero
Point
Module
Zed is a phoenetic expression of Z outside the US (Zed as apposed to Zee)
Say whichever way you want, but I would suggest you don't mix phrases in a way that makes you look ignorant.
Zed p m*
Wow zero energy
Fortnite x Stargate?
2:30 bs the staff device version you talk about worked twice not once it just needed to be reconfigured after use to work again that was all that was needed to get it working again have you not watched Stargate sg1 at all Gateworld to shame to shame for not knowing stargate sg1 that well and spouting non sense about a topic you obviously spend 5 minutes watching and researching watch this youtube video for this episode S3E6 - Point of View had that very situation used to call the asguard as part of that plan to work and get the asguard to save the sgc how you can say it's burnt out after one use when it was reactivated in this episode S3E6 - Point of View to save the SGC from the gould
That was a waste of a perfectly good explanation.