Am I the only one that really hated Paris? How selfish and stupid can you be to start a war on purpose? And then he gets away with it while his brother died and he lives happily ever after with his girl...smh
+HaxelPrime Yeah, I agree with you bro. Paris should off been butchered by the Greeks. An entire population wipe out one night. With only a small hand full of Trojans escaping. With Paris,(and his whore) and Helen escaping with the rest of the group. Sad, indeed.
+HaxelPrime Troy burn, because of a unfaithful women to her husband. Troy burn, because off one selfish prick of a prince who took another man's women and open up a full blown war between two nations. If someone was to die, it should of been Paris.
+wolverine48905 But Achilles embraced his death. When he was only 12 years old, the seer Tiresias challenged him to choose between eternal fame or length of days, and without missing a beat, he chose fame. And by dying young, at the height of his success, he accomplished his goal: to be remembered forever as the greatest, handsomest and most fearless warrior who ever lived.
Well, in mythology. Romulus and Remis didn't really exist. Neither did the Trojan War. But, Troy did exist, and it's thought that Rome was founded by the Trojans. Refugees from the Etruscan wars.
@@chrisjames6327 It is clear to him that it is a legend,so why are you telling him?And why you illogically added "it is thought Rome was faunded by the Trojans"?You only repeat that same legend.Or you think in real history we think Rome was founded by refugees from historic Troy?We don't.And those Etrusan wars from which your refugees from Troy were escaping are what?
heroinhero69 They should now. Sean's the right age to play an older Odysseus. The trick is getting a younger actor that looks like him to play him after the trojan war.
Cherubim 67 He does. And he returns home to his wife and son after 20 years of wandering here and there in the Mediterranean, getting rid of the Suitors who in the meantime have occupied his house with the most badass revenge in literature's history! From the Odyssey: "You dogs! You thought I'd never return from the land of Troy, so you laid waste my house, forced my maids, plotted my son's death and wooed my wife in secret though I was still alive, without fearing the gods who rule the wide sky or the mortal vengeance would find you. Now the net of fate is thrown over you all! I'd not keep my hands from slaughter until you've all paid the price. Now you can choose to stand and fight or run, if you think a single one of you can cheat death and fate. I don't think you'll escape death's finality!"
When i first saw this movie 10 years ago, i didnt realize how tragic it was until i rewatched it recently. 99.999% of the inhabitants of Troy are dead just so Paris could get a piece of @$$. Unbelievable!
@@duncansalyer2999 it would have been too much for the audience. imagine showing hectors sone getting dumped from the palace walls, and her wife being raped multiple times by greek troops
Well, almost everyone dies in the full story of the Iliad. The Greeks are punished by Poseiden on the way back to Greece. The only survivor is Odysseus (played by Sean Bean in the movie). Which is probably why he's the narrator in the movie. It's story about vanity, pride and stupidity. Everyone losing, for no real prize. The only survivor is the guy with a brain - Odysseus
Among the many scenes they cut for good reasons, Briseis looking back at the smoke over Troy coming from Achilles ashes, really should have stayed in! Such a powerful moment, the despair and emptiness inside every Trojan soul that morning - perfectly captured in Rose Byrne's face, just before the great Odysseus takes his final stock. This version really would've topped off the ending of the film, while symbolizing the end of the Trojan Empire and the dawn of a new era in ancient history. Well, some creative decisions are better than others! FYI: Still can't believe Sean Bean survived a historic action movie!
It's so funny how Paris and Helen are seemingly okay with the slaughter of millions of lives and are still "happy". And then Helen gets back with Menelaus and pretty much everything was for naught.
@@chrisjames6327not in the poem but in the story the „poem“ is based on. The Illiad ends with Achilleus giving Hektor‘s body to Priamos as at that point his wrath ended
@@ryanhampson673 it’s legacy lives on in modern institutions. See the Catholic Church, various Constitutional monarchies, written language, and republicanism.
Hector is the portrait of the perfect son, husband, father, soldier, leader and King. He is the only HERO in the Trojan War, because he only drew his sword to defend his country and his people against a big bunch of thieves, cutthroats and rapers who only came to burn and destroy a peaceful country.
That is 😢so true Paris you’re stupid the only reason why you are alive is because your bother helped you and not only that you idiot you killed my man Achilles he should’ve survived in the heat and you Paris should have died and because of you people lost their home I hope you’re proud of yourself😡
Yes, but I still can't understand why Achilles gave it away. It belonged to Patroclus before. And I am sure that it was a present to his younger cousin, because his mother is the sea nymph. And than he just gives it away to his Trojan lover he knew for at least five days, when the boy he loved over everything just died the day before. Very romantic. It was just like: Well, I killed Hector for Patroclus who was Briseis cousin so I just give her his necklace I took from him while he lied on his pyle and give it away now I paid my doubt... 😔🤨
I felt bad for Achilles, yes he wanted to be famous but at least he wasn't greedy like most kings was, and he fought aside his brother's and in the end he actually loved for once I'm glad he found love and peace even if it was for a short period of time.
You feel bad for Achilles? Dude sucked! He was insubordinate throughout the entire movie, cut off Apollo's head, murdered priests, took his inexperienced cousin to war, which indirectly got him killed. War sucks in general, and Agamemnon sucked as a person, but he was a good king and strategist, and acted just like a king is expected to act in war. Achilles sucked in every single aspect of his character
Lancer I always tell everyone who got depressed over this movie should just watch gladiator, it's basically their revenge watching their long time enemy descendants enslaved and forced to fight to the death for the Trojans descendants enjoyment
1. Paris was killed by Philoctetes who was using Hercules' bow and arrows before the end of the war. 2. Menelaus and Helen, according to all known variations, survived and came to Sparta. Besides, the Odyssey shows them alive and happy ruling over Sparta and helping Telemachus find his father. 3. According to the roman myths, Aeneas and some other Trojans survived and founded Rome.
Well, the movie script presents in the end a joyful Paris and Helen escaped from burning Troy. On contrary, the ancient legends presented the return of Helen with Menelaos in Sparta at the end of Trojan War. So, the script of the movie could be more generous also with the other couple, Achiles and Briseis.
Actually, their romance is likely as real as the one in Titanic. The reasons for the war were Troy being a Hittite client major trade center and the Greeks wanting a piece of the action or a bigger one in the trade between East and West.
They really should've included Paris' death by Philoctetes' arrows and Oneone jumping in Paris' pyre when they burned his body. It would've been a powerful scene. Cassandra's prophecies too. And Helen standing amidst the sacking and pillage waiting for Menelaus to draw his sword and kill her but realizes he can't because he still loves her. That would've been epic on the movie screen as much as it is in the source material.
Alfred winchister True, but Rome was already falling anyway. Still one of the greatest, if not the greatest empires the world has ever seen. Certainly greater than anything the Greeks had.
And the people on that mountain trail…their descendants only went on to create a republic that would ultimately become the greatest empire the Ancient World would ever see.
Not Helen or Briseis - Helen went back to Sparta with Menelaus and Briseis was handed out to one of Achilles' warriors as a trophy, like a horse or a set of armor. As were most of the other Trojan women, aside from the youngest princess, Polyxena, who was killed as a sacrifice at Achilles' funeral. Euripides told us all about it.
*patroclus. not once did achilles and briseis ever have a romantic relationship. unlike the movie, patroclus and achilles were never cousins. the iliad describes Patroclus and Achilles as extremely close, some historians and others even believe that they had a romantic relationship.
@@rachaelhurtarte9882No, they didn’t have a close romantic relationship. They were as brothers, not as gay romance. There’s even a video that mentions this. The idea that gay was common knowledge in Ancient Greece and Roman times is blown way out of proportion. Gay was nowhere as common back then as today and even today it isn’t all that common as well, except in some Western countries.
In the actual legend Paris was killed before the end of the war and Helen was taken back to Sparta by Menelaus and they lived miserably ever after. The ancient Greeks would never have accepted a happy ending for Paris and Helen either.
In the original poem this was based on, the Achaians actually dump Astyanax off the parapet and he goes total splat by the palace wall base below while his mother and aunt were carted off to become concubines/slaves. Odysseus actually took command of the spoils and assigned Andromache to Achilles' son, Pyrrhus. Briseis was portrayed in another movie having ended up as a concubine for Agamemnon, whose wife found her crying naked on the floor next to his bath where he was at that point enjoying the afterglow in the water, and his wife just unalived him in response. She wasn't jealous, just that she was herself a war prize, just happened to be #1 because it wasn't total victory (ie the marriage was hinted as being part of a treaty). The more common accounts from ancient sources though has Agamemnon getting unalived by his wife for a different reason: she has a new man and they were hoping he'd die in Troy.
Odysseus: "You mean for once I don't die in this movie? I just get to sail right home to my friends and family?" Poseidon: "Hold on just a minute there, bub..."
Paris/Legolas should have died by a Odiseus/Boromir's arrow like he was in Illiad. In one version at least. But...there are other versions...for example: After Hector's lecture, Paris decides to fight Menelaus, but after getting badly injured, Aphrodite teleports him back to his room in order to save his life. Later, after slaying Hector and other heroes, Achilles dies by an arrow. By some accounts, the archer is Paris with Apollo's help; by others it is Apollo disguised as Paris.Early in the epic, Paris and Menelaus duel in an attempt to end the war without further bloodshed. Menelaus easily defeats Paris, though Aphrodite spirits him away before Menelaus can finish the duel. Paris is returned to his bedchambers where Aphrodite forces Helen to be with him.[7]Paris's second attempt at combat is equally faced: rather than engage the Greek hero Diomedes in hand-to-hand combat, Paris wounds Diomedes with an arrow through the foot.Later in the war, after Philoctetes mortally wounds Paris, Helen makes her way to Mount Ida where she begs Paris's first wife, the nymph Oenone, to heal him. Still bitter that Paris had spurned her for his birthright in the city and then forgotten her for Helen, Oenone refuses. Helen returns alone to Troy, where Paris dies later the same day. In another version, Paris himself, in great pain, visits Oenone to plead for healing but is refused and dies on the mountainside. When Oenone hears of his funeral, she runs to his funeral pyre and throws herself in its fire.[8]After Paris's death, his brother Deiphobus married Helen and was then murdered by Menelaus in the sack of Troy.
without further bloodshed. Menelaus easily defeats Paris, though Aphrodite spirits him away before Menelaus can finish the duel. Paris is returned to his bedchambers where Aphrodite forces Helen to be with him. Paris's second attempt at combat is equally faced: rather than engage the Greek hero Diomedes in hand-to-hand combat, Paris wounds Diomedes with an arrow through the foot.Later in the war, after Philoctetes mortally wounds Paris, Helen makes her way to Mount Ida where she begs Paris's first wife, the nymph Oenone, to heal him. Still bitter that Paris had spurned her for his birthright in the city and then forgotten her for Helen, Oenone refuses. Helen returns alone to Troy, where Paris dies later the same day. In another version, Paris himself, in great pain, visits Oenone to plead for healing but is refused and dies on the mountainside. When Oenone hears of his funeral, she runs to his funeral pyre and throws herself in its fire.After Paris's death, his brother married Helen and was then murdered by Menelaus n the sack of Troy.
No what actually happened is that the surviving Trojans would later found the Roman Empire and crush and conquer the Greeks. It is the Romans that rebuilt troy and turn it into a trade city. I don't get why people don't like this ending but then again i was rooting for the Trojans. The Trojans were fighting for their homes and way of life. the greeks were fighting for a pieces of ass.
Rome being founded by the Trojan refugees is probably true. The story appears in both Greek and Roman ancient texts. Julius Caesar believed he was a Trojan and a descendant of Anaeas (the guy who was given the sword of troy)
it MIGHT be true but however there are more theories about the foundation of Rome or Alba Longa which we are speaking of right now. In any case there seems to be a lot of difference between the people living in the Roman area and the areas outside of it (the Etruscan people e.g.).
CJ Mooney It was not factual but the Aeneid is one of the greatest stories ever told. The Trojans carried a manly virtue, that virtue is what carried over to Rome.
I'd have looked at Paris and been like "Both our king and your brother who was our greatest protector are dead and our city burns to ashes all because you couldn't keep it in your tunic. Was that one piece of ass truly worth it?"
Man, I feel bad that we never got The Odyssey with Sean Bean as Odysseus. So far he remains the best version of the fabled King of Ithaca. At least his dog Argus, the most loyal dog ever, featured in the Director's Cut early on with his master.
This Trojan War supposedly occurred near the end of the Bronze Age. Within 50-100 years, the two major civilizations involved in the war were gone. The cities destroyed or barely hanging on. The rest of the eastern Mediterranean also suffered chaos and destruction. Even Egypt had to fight for its existence. Fascinating history.
Am I the only one aware that every movie the actor of Paris is in he's always some pretty boy stealing someone's wife? Like pirates of the caribean, the hobbit, and of course troy. And he always fucks everything up.
In POTC, Will Belonged with Elizabeth, ever since the moment when they were kids, she rescued him from that ship wreck and hid the knowledge that he was really a pirate.
I think Hollywood should make a three part trojan war. (They like splitting up stories anyway) start where this movie did end the first one with the landing of the trojan beach. Second one the Iliad, and just the Iliad. And the third one to cover the rest
In the full story, Odysseus is one of the few people (along with Menelaus and Helen) who survives the war, if you're wondering why he has the role of narrator/historian, in the movie. Paris, Hector and Achilles are killed in battle, and most of the Greek soldiers die on the journey home - punished by Poseidon. Ajax kills himself, because he's so distraught about the death of Achilles. And Menelaus is murdered shortly after returning home. Odysseus survives by outsmarting the gods - instead of returning to Greece, he and his troops settle in Troy, and wait for years for Poseidon's mood to improve, before journeying home. However, he is still the only survivor of that journey, with all his army perishing. Which is covered in Homer's Odyssey. Menelaus and Helen survive because they are both innocents. A key piece of information that the movie changes is the suggestion that Paris' love for Helen was returned, when it was not. The Iliad was not a love story. It was the story of a besotted boy, abducting the most beautiful women in the world, against her will. After the war, she returned to her husband and they lived happily ever after
The movie adaptation of the Trojan War significantly departs from Homer's "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey," as well as other Greek myths. The original stories are far more tragic and complex. For instance, Andromache (Hector's wife) is enslaved by Achilles' son, Neoptolemus and her baby is killed by being thrown from the walls of Troy. Paris and Achilles were killed before the Trojan Horse was built. Helen returns to Sparta with Menelaus and there's no mention of her daughter with him. The movie includes Aeneas, ancestor of Romulus and Remus, but doesn't establish his identity or significance.
I think most people miss the point of the ending. What was left at the end? Who won? No one. Everyone died or suffered great loss for what burned rubble and sand? If they remained in peace everyone could have prospered and shared.
ITS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE LEGEND OF THE SWORD OF TROY WHIT AENEAS WHO DIES IN DESERT OF ROME AND FAIL THE PROMESS WHIT PARIS AND THAT IS THE MISSING OF THE WORD OF TROY.
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Am I the only one that really hated Paris? How selfish and stupid can you be to start a war on purpose? And then he gets away with it while his brother died and he lives happily ever after with his girl...smh
+HaxelPrime Yeah, I agree with you bro. Paris should off been butchered by the Greeks. An entire population wipe out one night. With only a small hand full of Trojans escaping. With Paris,(and his whore) and Helen escaping with the rest of the group.
Sad, indeed.
+HaxelPrime Troy burn, because of a unfaithful women to her husband. Troy burn, because off one selfish prick of a prince who took another man's women and open up a full blown war between two nations.
If someone was to die, it should of been Paris.
+HaxelPrime No, you're not the only one
+wolverine48905 But Achilles embraced his death. When he was only 12 years old, the seer Tiresias challenged him to choose between eternal fame or length of days, and without missing a beat, he chose fame. And by dying young, at the height of his success, he accomplished his goal: to be remembered forever as the greatest, handsomest and most fearless warrior who ever lived.
+HaxelPrime I hate him, too :D so, you're not the only one.. :D
According to legend, Aeneas, the boy whom Paris gave the sword of troy to, is an ancestor of romulus and remus, the founders of Rome.
Well, in mythology. Romulus and Remis didn't really exist. Neither did the Trojan War. But, Troy did exist, and it's thought that Rome was founded by the Trojans. Refugees from the Etruscan wars.
Romulus and Remus are archetypal figures like the Anglo-Saxon Hengest and Horsa.
@@chrisjames6327 It is clear to him that it is a legend,so why are you telling him?And why you illogically added "it is thought Rome was faunded by the Trojans"?You only repeat that same legend.Or you think in real history we think Rome was founded by refugees from historic Troy?We don't.And those Etrusan wars from which your refugees from Troy were escaping are what?
wait, wait, wait . . . Sean Bean actually survived in this movie?
I was just thinking the same thing!
***** They then find the Carthagians or Roman Empires. I heard they found both.
He even survives the (possible) movie after this one!
heroinhero69 They should now. Sean's the right age to play an older Odysseus. The trick is getting a younger actor that looks like him to play him after the trojan war.
Cherubim 67 He does. And he returns home to his wife and son after 20 years of wandering here and there in the Mediterranean, getting rid of the Suitors who in the meantime have occupied his house with the most badass revenge in literature's history!
From the Odyssey:
"You dogs! You thought I'd never return from the land of Troy, so you laid waste my house, forced my maids, plotted my son's death and wooed my wife in secret though I was still alive, without fearing the gods who rule the wide sky or the mortal vengeance would find you. Now the net of fate is thrown over you all! I'd not keep my hands from slaughter until you've all paid the price. Now you can choose to stand and fight or run, if you think a single one of you can cheat death and fate. I don't think you'll escape death's finality!"
When i first saw this movie 10 years ago, i didnt realize how tragic it was until i rewatched it recently. 99.999% of the inhabitants of Troy are dead just so Paris could get a piece of @$$. Unbelievable!
I wish they went the mythologically accurate route with Paris getting killed and Helen going back with Menelaus
@@duncansalyer2999 it would have been too much for the audience. imagine showing hectors sone getting dumped from the palace walls, and her wife being raped multiple times by greek troops
@@TheMrgoodmanners showing Paris getting killed doesn’t mean we have to show that
Although, Paris did say to burn the Trojan Horse, and no one listened.
Well, almost everyone dies in the full story of the Iliad. The Greeks are punished by Poseiden on the way back to Greece. The only survivor is Odysseus (played by Sean Bean in the movie). Which is probably why he's the narrator in the movie.
It's story about vanity, pride and stupidity. Everyone losing, for no real prize. The only survivor is the guy with a brain - Odysseus
To make everyone feel better, Paris died a very slow and gruesome death irl.
You make my day. Thank you so MUCH!!!!!! 😊😄😄😄😄😄
how did he die
Good, little shit deserved that much.
ffp08 blinded broken killed by heracles/Hercules friend
U mean orlando bloom died??
I hate how Paris smirks at helen as if losing his whole city, father and brother in exchange for her was well worth it.
Among the many scenes they cut for good reasons, Briseis looking back at the smoke over Troy coming from Achilles ashes, really should have stayed in! Such a powerful moment, the despair and emptiness inside every Trojan soul that morning - perfectly captured in Rose Byrne's face, just before the great Odysseus takes his final stock. This version really would've topped off the ending of the film, while symbolizing the end of the Trojan Empire and the dawn of a new era in ancient history. Well, some creative decisions are better than others!
FYI: Still can't believe Sean Bean survived a historic action movie!
It's so funny how Paris and Helen are seemingly okay with the slaughter of millions of lives and are still "happy". And then Helen gets back with Menelaus and pretty much everything was for naught.
You're mixing elements of the film with elements of the poem. In the poem Paris dies, and Helen returns to her husband
@@chrisjames6327not in the poem but in the story the „poem“ is based on. The Illiad ends with Achilleus giving Hektor‘s body to Priamos as at that point his wrath ended
In the story The Trojan refugees settled in Italy and founded the Roman Empire. So Troy did survive. And got greater
+CJ Mooney By other name
And by other race. Rome was founded by Romulus, yes, but the roman people were latins.
Thanks to Aeneas. A Trojan commander that not only saved his friends and family, but also hundreds of Trojans from the Greek onslaught.
All empire fall eventually..If you count the eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine) Rome lasted a thousand years....Not a bad run.
@@ryanhampson673 it’s legacy lives on in modern institutions. See the Catholic Church, various Constitutional monarchies, written language, and republicanism.
Hector is the portrait of the perfect son, husband, father, soldier, leader and King. He is the only HERO in the Trojan War, because he only drew his sword to defend his country and his people against a big bunch of thieves, cutthroats and rapers who only came to burn and destroy a peaceful country.
You should really read the Iliad
You know that Hector is one of the Nine Worthies, right?
Dead prince cannot be a king
Agreed! Hector was the real mvp of the entire movie!
That is 😢so true Paris you’re stupid the only reason why you are alive is because your bother helped you and not only that you idiot you killed my man Achilles he should’ve survived in the heat and you Paris should have died and because of you people lost their home I hope you’re proud of yourself😡
She was wearing the necklace he gave her... Too bad they couldn't be together.
Yes, but I still can't understand why Achilles gave it away. It belonged to Patroclus before. And I am sure that it was a present to his younger cousin, because his mother is the sea nymph. And than he just gives it away to his Trojan lover he knew for at least five days, when the boy he loved over everything just died the day before. Very romantic. It was just like: Well, I killed Hector for Patroclus who was Briseis cousin so I just give her his necklace I took from him while he lied on his pyle and give it away now I paid my doubt... 😔🤨
@@saraoverkamping8143 i think Achilles knew he was gonna die soon so he gave it to her. IDK just a thought
Sara Overkämping
The Trojan war spanned years. God knows how long Briseis and Achilles were romantically involved in the film adaptation.
@@asellajoy5797 Of course he knew, he said to Hector's corpse, "We'll meet again soon, brother."
girls just love bad boys
So we see the ending of the Trojan War... and the beginning of the Aeneid and the Odyssey.
I felt bad for Achilles, yes he wanted to be famous but at least he wasn't greedy like most kings was, and he fought aside his brother's and in the end he actually loved for once I'm glad he found love and peace even if it was for a short period of time.
In the movie yes... In the story... He is a bit different.
Man I once had a dream that I saved Achilles from dying and he just lives happily with Persaus and they have a child together.
@@MrBandholm he isn’t a bad person in the Iliad either
You feel bad for Achilles? Dude sucked! He was insubordinate throughout the entire movie, cut off Apollo's head, murdered priests, took his inexperienced cousin to war, which indirectly got him killed. War sucks in general, and Agamemnon sucked as a person, but he was a good king and strategist, and acted just like a king is expected to act in war. Achilles sucked in every single aspect of his character
@@MrBandholmIn the story, he was an african man
They should make a movie about the Aneid and the founding of Rome.
YES YES I TOTALLY AGREEEE!!!!
And how the Roman later conquered Greece. Finally getting their revenge.
Lancer I always tell everyone who got depressed over this movie should just watch gladiator, it's basically their revenge watching their long time enemy descendants enslaved and forced to fight to the death for the Trojans descendants enjoyment
Just don't tell them what happens about 200 years after Gladiator...
I was thinking the same man
How is it possible to cut such a scene from the great movie ?
yeah
When the cinemas start asking for a shorter version so they can fit more showtimes in a day. That's how.
Let them say I survived this movie. Let them say I lived in a story were most characters died.
1. Paris was killed by Philoctetes who was using Hercules' bow and arrows before the end of the war.
2. Menelaus and Helen, according to all known variations, survived and came to Sparta. Besides, the Odyssey shows them alive and happy ruling over Sparta and helping Telemachus find his father.
3. According to the roman myths, Aeneas and some other Trojans survived and founded Rome.
Aeneas didn't found Rome, for fuck's sake. Why does everybody keep saying this? Does nobody know about Romulus and Remus?!
@@orev5035 Aeneas was supposed to be their ancestor...
@@orev5035
Aeneas is the ancestor of Romulus and Remus through their mother Rhea Silvia who was raped by the God of War, Mars.
All I wanted was for Achilles and Briseis to end up together and get a hea. As if...
That wasn't gonna happen
Robles Tako sadly yeah
Achilles' only true love was Patroclus.
@@orev5035 No, Homer described Achilles love as Breseis, so enough of the gay crap.
Well, the movie script presents in the end a joyful Paris and Helen escaped from burning Troy. On contrary, the ancient legends presented the return of Helen with Menelaos in Sparta at the end of Trojan War. So, the script of the movie could be more generous also with the other couple, Achiles and Briseis.
Does anyone else think everyone in the group walking is looking at Paris and thinking, "This is all your fault"?
he did tell them to burn the horse
Actually, their romance is likely as real as the one in Titanic. The reasons for the war were Troy being a Hittite client major trade center and the Greeks wanting a piece of the action or a bigger one in the trade between East and West.
It would be better if achilles and brieses had a child at the end.
I was hoping Briseis was pregnant at least, but didn't know it yet.
maybe she got pregnant
1:21 she's wearing the necklace Achilles gave her
That was sad when she realized he was being burned
They really should've included Paris' death by Philoctetes' arrows and Oneone jumping in Paris' pyre when they burned his body. It would've been a powerful scene. Cassandra's prophecies too. And Helen standing amidst the sacking and pillage waiting for Menelaus to draw his sword and kill her but realizes he can't because he still loves her. That would've been epic on the movie screen as much as it is in the source material.
It was big mistake to kill Menelaus, not only in the story and emotional department but Also because it was Brendan Gleeson
I hope I can meet Hector and Achilles one day.
lol, that would be fun. Take a video for me please!
Giannis Daniil Lol I mean in the afterlife if that even exist
@@Aekeofficial and people like you judge every little thing right
And Aeneas too.
@@MrThejoker6000 With Achillies will be hard he land probably in Hell..... or you want spent eternity in Darknes...
This movie makes me cry.
Why did they cut it ?! Seriously..
Such a painful moment for her...
Ahh man briseis face at 1:36
oh poor Briseis...
Was it worth it Paris?
We'll always have Paris.
This scene makes my heart ache each time i see it...
I wish they could've been together
Whoa..........Sean Bean didn't die!?
the death scene of hectot was easily the saddest part along with when priam goes to retrieve his body.
Wolfgang Petersen should do the oddisey with sean bean retaking his role.
Been saying that ever since this movie ended up on DVD. Sean Bean's Odysseus is so good.
mr.arms And dying......ok I'm kiding
i cried so much during this scene😭
I pity Achilles and most men who end like this. They want to be remembered, but 8/10 times you have to have a death wish.
I never saw this before! I’m glad I found it :)
Oh dear oh dear, if only Odysseus would know he was about to spend decades trying to get home.
R.I.P. Achilles 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
And then the descendants of those Trojans come back to conquer Greece and the entire Mediterranean.
In the end they got slapped by some Asian nomads :D
Alfred winchister True, but Rome was already falling anyway. Still one of the greatest, if not the greatest empires the world has ever seen. Certainly greater than anything the Greeks had.
Well, yes, if you so much believe in Rome is the legacy of Troy.
Alfred winchister It could be. We'll never really know but according to the stories,.
A great propaganda piece for Roman conquest of Hellenistic Greece, right?
The actress who played Briseis was totally gorgeous
Men rise and fall like the winter wheat ... but these names live on forever.
The next part of the story is how Odesseus gets back home
ned stark lives!!!
Love the poem at the end❤
And the people on that mountain trail…their descendants only went on to create a republic that would ultimately become the greatest empire the Ancient World would ever see.
Not Helen or Briseis - Helen went back to Sparta with Menelaus and Briseis was handed out to one of Achilles' warriors as a trophy, like a horse or a set of armor. As were most of the other Trojan women, aside from the youngest princess, Polyxena, who was killed as a sacrifice at Achilles' funeral. Euripides told us all about it.
The Ancient Western world. I'd argue the ancient chinese empire was as glorious as the roman one
They al have such wonderful costumes. What kind of fabric is the gown Briseis wears ? Cotton?
This is like the only film where Sean bean didn't die
Except Ronin, in which he was ambushed with a cup of coffee but survived.
Who else finds it unfair that Paris and Helen got a happy ending when others like Achilles and Briseis should have their happily ever after?
*patroclus. not once did achilles and briseis ever have a romantic relationship. unlike the movie, patroclus and achilles were never cousins. the iliad describes Patroclus and Achilles as extremely close, some historians and others even believe that they had a romantic relationship.
@@rachaelhurtarte9882No, they didn’t have a close romantic relationship. They were as brothers, not as gay romance. There’s even a video that mentions this. The idea that gay was common knowledge in Ancient Greece and Roman times is blown way out of proportion. Gay was nowhere as common back then as today and even today it isn’t all that common as well, except in some Western countries.
@@AFGsultanZ Aeschylus said otherwise.
In the actual legend Paris was killed before the end of the war and Helen was taken back to Sparta by Menelaus and they lived miserably ever after. The ancient Greeks would never have accepted a happy ending for Paris and Helen either.
And who says Bean dies in everything he’s in🤷🏻♂️😂
3500 years later and these mens names echo in eternity.
Bro first time I ain't seen Sean Bean die 😂😂😂😂
In the original poem this was based on, the Achaians actually dump Astyanax off the parapet and he goes total splat by the palace wall base below while his mother and aunt were carted off to become concubines/slaves. Odysseus actually took command of the spoils and assigned Andromache to Achilles' son, Pyrrhus. Briseis was portrayed in another movie having ended up as a concubine for Agamemnon, whose wife found her crying naked on the floor next to his bath where he was at that point enjoying the afterglow in the water, and his wife just unalived him in response. She wasn't jealous, just that she was herself a war prize, just happened to be #1 because it wasn't total victory (ie the marriage was hinted as being part of a treaty). The more common accounts from ancient sources though has Agamemnon getting unalived by his wife for a different reason: she has a new man and they were hoping he'd die in Troy.
Odysseus: "You mean for once I don't die in this movie? I just get to sail right home to my friends and family?"
Poseidon: "Hold on just a minute there, bub..."
Paris/Legolas should have died by a Odiseus/Boromir's arrow like he was in Illiad. In one version at least. But...there are other versions...for example: After Hector's lecture, Paris decides to fight Menelaus, but after getting badly injured, Aphrodite teleports him back to his room in order to save his life. Later, after slaying Hector and other heroes, Achilles dies by an arrow. By some accounts, the archer is Paris with Apollo's help; by others it is Apollo disguised as Paris.Early in the epic, Paris and Menelaus duel in an attempt to end the war without further bloodshed. Menelaus easily defeats Paris, though Aphrodite spirits him away before Menelaus can finish the duel. Paris is returned to his bedchambers where Aphrodite forces Helen to be with him.[7]Paris's second attempt at combat is equally faced: rather than engage the Greek hero Diomedes in hand-to-hand combat, Paris wounds Diomedes with an arrow through the foot.Later in the war, after Philoctetes mortally wounds Paris, Helen makes her way to Mount Ida where she begs Paris's first wife, the nymph Oenone, to heal him. Still bitter that Paris had spurned her for his birthright in the city and then forgotten her for Helen, Oenone refuses. Helen returns alone to Troy, where Paris dies later the same day. In another version, Paris himself, in great pain, visits Oenone to plead for healing but is refused and dies on the mountainside. When Oenone hears of his funeral, she runs to his funeral pyre and throws herself in its fire.[8]After Paris's death, his brother Deiphobus married Helen and was then murdered by Menelaus in the sack of Troy.
without further bloodshed. Menelaus easily defeats Paris, though Aphrodite spirits him away before Menelaus can finish the duel. Paris is returned to his bedchambers where Aphrodite forces Helen to be with him.
Paris's second attempt at combat is equally faced: rather than engage the Greek hero Diomedes in hand-to-hand combat, Paris wounds Diomedes with an arrow through the foot.Later in the war, after Philoctetes mortally wounds Paris, Helen makes her way to Mount Ida where she begs Paris's first wife, the nymph Oenone, to heal him. Still bitter that Paris had spurned her for his birthright in the city and then forgotten her for Helen, Oenone refuses. Helen returns alone to Troy, where Paris dies later the same day. In another version, Paris himself, in great pain, visits Oenone to plead for healing but is refused and dies on the mountainside. When Oenone hears of his funeral, she runs to his funeral pyre and throws herself in its fire.After Paris's death, his brother married Helen and was then murdered by Menelaus n the sack of Troy.
Iliad ends with Hector's funeral...Achilles and Paris' deaths are described in later poems...And in all of them, Paris is killed by Philoctetes
Rome being founded by descendants of trojans makes as much sense as any other explaination. There is really no other story on the Birth of the Rome.
Aldon Blackreyne there is btw it is said that Romus, the son of Odysseus and Circe, actually founded Rome
No what actually happened is that the surviving Trojans would later found the Roman Empire and crush and conquer the Greeks. It is the Romans that rebuilt troy and turn it into a trade city. I don't get why people don't like this ending but then again i was rooting for the Trojans. The Trojans were fighting for their homes and way of life. the greeks were fighting for a pieces of ass.
Rome being founded by the Trojan refugees is probably true.
The story appears in both Greek and Roman ancient texts.
Julius Caesar believed he was a Trojan and a descendant of Anaeas (the guy who was given the sword of troy)
True there was definitely something going on in the eastern mediterranean during and perhaps even before the Bronze Age.
it MIGHT be true but however there are more theories about the foundation of Rome or Alba Longa which we are speaking of right now. In any case there seems to be a lot of difference between the people living in the Roman area and the areas outside of it (the Etruscan people e.g.).
CJ Mooney It was not factual but the Aeneid is one of the greatest stories ever told. The Trojans carried a manly virtue, that virtue is what carried over to Rome.
I'd have looked at Paris and been like "Both our king and your brother who was our greatest protector are dead and our city burns to ashes all because you couldn't keep it in your tunic. Was that one piece of ass truly worth it?"
Plot Twist: Hector and Achilles were never real people but were created by Odysseus himself so that his own name will live forever!
plot twist: thats a lie
I love this version. Especially the longing look of Briseis while they burn his body.
What could’ve been a happy family.
Man, I feel bad that we never got The Odyssey with Sean Bean as Odysseus. So far he remains the best version of the fabled King of Ithaca. At least his dog Argus, the most loyal dog ever, featured in the Director's Cut early on with his master.
Finally! A movie where Sean Bean doesn't die!
This Trojan War supposedly occurred near the end of the Bronze Age. Within 50-100 years, the two major civilizations involved in the war were gone. The cities destroyed or barely hanging on. The rest of the eastern Mediterranean also suffered chaos and destruction. Even Egypt had to fight for its existence. Fascinating history.
The birth of greatest empire on the world, ROME
Roma Invictus!
Am I the only one aware that every movie the actor of Paris is in he's always some pretty boy stealing someone's wife? Like pirates of the caribean, the hobbit, and of course troy. And he always fucks everything up.
In POTC, Will Belonged with Elizabeth, ever since the moment when they were kids, she rescued him from that ship wreck and hid the knowledge that he was really a pirate.
Amazing movie Brad Pitt made it with his Achilles role
oh how i would want an odysey with sean bean
Είπες βλακεία ΝαΜηνΑπαντησω???
I think Hollywood should make a three part trojan war. (They like splitting up stories anyway) start where this movie did end the first one with the landing of the trojan beach. Second one the Iliad, and just the Iliad. And the third one to cover the rest
the greath names never dies
That's what I only just realized as well.
ma pke' hanno tagliato la parte di qando i Troiani scappano ai monti? !
Odd, this is how I remember the ending of the movie
You must have seen the directors cut edition - the theatrical omits this scene.
You must have seen the directors cut edition - the theatrical omits this scene.
1:03 Shameless couple is smiling no wonder Hera and Athena cursed her
Helen tried to surrender and go back. She can't be blamed.
Why dit they they deledet so many good scenes in the DVD version?
let them say I lived in a time of keyboard heroes
Plot twist: they later divorced anyway
In the full story, Odysseus is one of the few people (along with Menelaus and Helen) who survives the war, if you're wondering why he has the role of narrator/historian, in the movie. Paris, Hector and Achilles are killed in battle, and most of the Greek soldiers die on the journey home - punished by Poseidon. Ajax kills himself, because he's so distraught about the death of Achilles. And Menelaus is murdered shortly after returning home. Odysseus survives by outsmarting the gods - instead of returning to Greece, he and his troops settle in Troy, and wait for years for Poseidon's mood to improve, before journeying home. However, he is still the only survivor of that journey, with all his army perishing. Which is covered in Homer's Odyssey. Menelaus and Helen survive because they are both innocents. A key piece of information that the movie changes is the suggestion that Paris' love for Helen was returned, when it was not. The Iliad was not a love story. It was the story of a besotted boy, abducting the most beautiful women in the world, against her will. After the war, she returned to her husband and they lived happily ever after
The movie adaptation of the Trojan War significantly departs from Homer's "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey," as well as other Greek myths. The original stories are far more tragic and complex. For instance, Andromache (Hector's wife) is enslaved by Achilles' son, Neoptolemus and her baby is killed by being thrown from the walls of Troy. Paris and Achilles were killed before the Trojan Horse was built. Helen returns to Sparta with Menelaus and there's no mention of her daughter with him. The movie includes Aeneas, ancestor of Romulus and Remus, but doesn't establish his identity or significance.
Thanks Paris and Helen, hope it was worth it!
Rome was worth it
"Find peace, my brother"
I think most people miss the point of the ending. What was left at the end? Who won? No one. Everyone died or suffered great loss for what burned rubble and sand? If they remained in peace everyone could have prospered and shared.
What is the difference between this directors cut and the original?
Flying Fox it didn’t have the scene of Paris and Helen and the girl looking back at Troy
1:03 - heeey, Aeneas with his dad right there! :D
Dam ned...never makes a bad movie!
From Trojans to Romans. Aeneas saved what was left of Priam's people.
Nor this war will be forgotten nor will be the hero’s who fought in it
Fantastic movie great
So in this version of the story, Paris and Helen Would be together for the rest of Their life ? Great !
Everyone complaining about Paris, you got a point when they remove the gods from the story.
How did I not see this earlier??
I did not know about that extra scene of the movie!
Undefeatable! Untouchable! Promised and High Five!
ITS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE LEGEND OF THE SWORD OF TROY WHIT AENEAS WHO DIES IN DESERT OF ROME AND FAIL THE PROMESS WHIT PARIS AND THAT IS THE MISSING OF THE WORD OF TROY.
what?
This is the only film Sean Bean survives...
Can we all get over how Sean Bean does NOT die in this movie.....seriously!
Sean bean lives. Holy Shhhhhhhhhh.............
I guess Deiphobus is non-existent here, it's fine since they changed everything anyway.
he was Odysseus. of course he lived.