Renault Clio RS 200 EDC v Ford Fiesta ST Mountune - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS

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  • Ford has boosted the Fiesta ST. Many people already thought it was better than the paddles-only Clio RS. Time for a face-off.
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  • @uglyogk
    @uglyogk 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another weekly video dose of automotive excellence. Keep up the good work Chris and all of you at Drive.

  • @HighTQCummins
    @HighTQCummins 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the recent use of slow mo clips, they really make it a different viewing experience, keep pumpin out the footage chris! dedicated viewer/fan

  • @maximus9401
    @maximus9401 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    gotta love that straight cut whine

  • @uGotGot1618
    @uGotGot1618 10 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I think that Clio is better looking. looks incredible from the rear. fiesta looks, well, american.

    • @rejoicerone3176
      @rejoicerone3176 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alex Bienemann has the Clio got a manual gearbox... No!

    • @blacklabbby
      @blacklabbby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree the clio is better looking but I don't think the fiesta looks very American. I drive a fiesta st and on the road my car looks European compared to everything else

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rejoicerone3176 yes

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you can heel and toe

    • @firstpersonengineer
      @firstpersonengineer ปีที่แล้ว

      Clio has a face only a mother could love

  • @Guy_de_Loimbard
    @Guy_de_Loimbard 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0-60 in 6.5 in a Ford Fiesta of all things... these are good times for automotive enthusiasts.

  • @Schtorm_BLITZ_UNION
    @Schtorm_BLITZ_UNION 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm getting soon Clio RS 200 EDC and just can't wait! Been waitin for almost four months now...

  • @getahanddown
    @getahanddown 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Walkinshaw V6 was a mental move for any brand at any time. As car lovers we have to savour those moments, they won't come often.

  • @iHoady
    @iHoady 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fair enough that's one out of many. The best thing I advise you to do is not worry about a review and test drive them all yourself like I did and I went for the ST in the end, purely down to how well it handles. Pick the right one for yourself.

  • @TheSpongebob74
    @TheSpongebob74 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brakes on the Feista st are really really good I've never had brake fade yet and I've driven mine pretty hard it's the best all round hot hatch and has been for 3 years or so so the French have a bit of catching up to do on how to improve on the Feista

  • @Cowboy1O1y
    @Cowboy1O1y 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30 degrees, that's so cute. We got to 32 the other day in Sydney and we've only just started Spring

  • @spazemonkey
    @spazemonkey 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Ford stays true to the original definition of what a hot hatch should be. The Renault is trying to change the hot hatch formula which isn't broken in the first place.

  • @blazerbomb1
    @blazerbomb1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Toronto, Canada. Ive never even seen a Clio, but obviously a Fiesta. I only really watched this review because of Chris Harris' personality! Excellent info and entertaining to watch! They should drop Tanner Foust and have Chris as a third presenter

  • @iantownsend5480
    @iantownsend5480 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem I have is a like the Clio. Yes I miss the manual but I think I could get over it. The fiesta is brilliant to my eyes I like the styling but I do have a soft spot for the 208 gti I'm just glad they've found their mojo again

    • @Groaznic
      @Groaznic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Ian Townsend Me too, wish I could see more of the 208 GTI around.

  • @HesteBremse
    @HesteBremse 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked the Vid and both cars, but I keep wondering what that performance upgrade was all about on the ST?. If I had kids but still wanted a small rocket I would no doubt take the Clio of those two. Perhaps the Fiesta should have been a 4 door in this vid ( like the two door much better though). The ST looks really good and I even liked the Clio a lot when that came out (contrary to a lot of others) the ST is just more appealing and aggressive looking - The Clio feels more grown up which might be good for non Hot Hatch versions but for HH not so. Good comparison.

  • @G0ML333
    @G0ML333 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant stuff, as always.

  • @r14j
    @r14j 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    need to compare the mountune st to the clio 220 trophy ,,, pleassse

    • @Naps-95
      @Naps-95 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      r14j Why? It's more expensive. Surely the point it that you can have the Fiesta with Mountune for the same price as the regular Clio RS?

    • @neovenom9833
      @neovenom9833 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alex Napper Even with the Mountune kit it's easily over 1000€ cheaper. That pays for 2 sets of Michelin pilot sport 3 tires. Renault has blown it by not having a manual as standard. It's a hot hatch requirement. It's not playing in the league of cars like GTR, 911, and lambo's. and what not.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Naps-95 exactly

  • @Chicargo312
    @Chicargo312 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris, do you left foot brake? And how about a foot work shot on one of your vids so we can see how much is going on?

  • @csemit
    @csemit 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well with the new Clio Trophy having 220BHP and 260Nm of torque (280Nm with overboost in 4th and 5th!) I'm glad I've gone for the Clio.....
    I know it's more expensive but it just has so much more going for it than the Fiesta.....
    And if a lot of it is about talk as Chris says the the new Clio trophy has almost 100Nm than the stock Fiesta and OVER 100Nm in the later gears.....

  • @Cain353
    @Cain353 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    WhiteMoonLights
    That's a comparison between the stock versions of each car. The Fiesta ST in this video has been fitted with the Mountune Performance package giving it 215 hp.

  • @JEFF4507
    @JEFF4507 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was the relevance with the Cup car?
    I have a 172 and love the look of the new Clio, agreed lots of people say they prefer the Ford (maybe because cheap lease deals allow the hot hatch generation to drive a brand new car??)
    But the last 3 minutes of this video honestly make it look like Renault just asked you to drive their Cup racer to take the spotlight away from the Ford winning in a straight line at the start of the vid...

  • @GrotrianSeiler
    @GrotrianSeiler 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound of that Cup car us just fantastic. What fun.

  • @yanoucar
    @yanoucar 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review ! nice to see the Clio Cup !

  • @NormanCanton
    @NormanCanton 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the montune kit be available in the us?

  • @Uber-GT
    @Uber-GT 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris this may very well be a ridiculous question but would one be able to purchase a cup car and if so how much are they?

  • @khuong1994
    @khuong1994 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The clio cup has a limited slip/locked differential right?

  • @KA5Hx
    @KA5Hx 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a big RenaultSport fan, I've got a Mk3 Clio 200 but id still have the ST over the new Clio. £21,000 for a JUNIOR hot hatch? No thanks

  • @nousernamesification
    @nousernamesification 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really do think that whoever comes out with a rwd hatchback now, will most definitely kill em all. I hope Kia's concept comes out.

    • @toyotamarkIIjz
      @toyotamarkIIjz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi im from the future yes it did indeed come out

  • @Mikeyp1054
    @Mikeyp1054 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i find it odd in some shots its clearly molten orange in colour up to and including lining up and not once it goes.i know the molten orange colour changes dramatically in different lighting conditions but not to a red even burgundy colour as i had one

  • @Mikeyp1054
    @Mikeyp1054 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes me wonder whether that fiesta was driven with the air con on like in the early part of the video which shows the as air con on as we all know thiswill slow the car down a bit,but it will pee all over a standard clio sport.i know so(ive one in st3 guise).like chris says above 60mph it is so aggressive in mountune guise

  • @pjgrobler7619
    @pjgrobler7619 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get the rear spoiler that is on the clio cup?

  • @getahanddown
    @getahanddown 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    BurqaKing! thats fricken awesome! Totally agree the track if the place to explore the limits. Had errands to do all day. Took the wagon out and slow to warm up / fluctuating temp. Also wouldn't stay composed when pushing on a tight 450 degree onramp that is well cambered but drops maybe 8m. To the shed to do the thermostat (stuck halfway open) and flush + new coolant. Check tyre pressures (had done that when I picked it up but checked for changes) still all the same so check alignment, ...cont

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:47 what was that under the Fiesta? an oil squirt? water?

  • @warwickstingray
    @warwickstingray 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's nice there is now a car choice for everybody. The Clio for the gadget brigade, The ST has followed on from previous Clios but with the torque that everyone that didn't like to use a gearbox and a cam tuned powerband moaned about and the 208 GTI for the people that want a more everyday hot hatch in this sector. It's a good time if you have the money. No one needs to bother with any over priced VAG crap for a change.

  • @Razor046
    @Razor046 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the english subtitles!!! it´s make easier to me understand the video!!
    I´m from Brazil and english it´s not my native language!! So if can put subtitles in all of these videos i´ll be greteful!!
    Thanks!! and congratulations for the channel!

  • @nathanscheidler6393
    @nathanscheidler6393 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to get a Clio, but they don't have them over here in the states. Considering a Fiesta though.

  • @123cameltosis
    @123cameltosis 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    How's it different than ours ? My 2004 Focus has the same knob ?

  • @AmericanWithTheTruth
    @AmericanWithTheTruth 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK... so the clio the high performance one in the last part of the video. How do you get that kind of race car sound in a stock fiesta st or clio? Is that actually the sound from the exhaust or is it an entire different engine set-up? That sound is the coolest sound in the world and I would give my left leg to have that high pitch spooling whine of a race car in my stock fiesta st.

  • @77GR1982
    @77GR1982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fiesta ST: a proper POCKET ROCKET... ❤

  • @WatchedThisVideo
    @WatchedThisVideo 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a Ford Fiesta ST vs. the Opel Corsa OPC, same power range, both with a stick and pretty much same size (the European version of the Fiesta at least), would be great :)

  • @lawrencejames
    @lawrencejames 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be interesting to see that Clio Cup edition go up against the Ford Fiesta RS (like Ken Block drives). Would also like to see the Mountune Fiesta up against a regular ST to see if the difference is really worth the extra cash.

  • @onpole01
    @onpole01 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    so not the same gearbox in the clip cup car as in all the rs 4 road cars? Not sure I heard it right.

  • @marksapollo
    @marksapollo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exactly :D
    Really I wanted to see Chris compare the standard ST to the standard Clio. But I guess he has already said his opinion on that, which is in a conflict with the internet.

  • @Forza4You
    @Forza4You 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, that is true but the idea that first gear is furthest (besides reverse) from you rather than right up to your right thigh (or left in that case). It would definitely take some getting used to, but not impossible.

  • @axised001
    @axised001 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    with havent even whatched it: chris, you made my day

  • @leolion7876
    @leolion7876 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Erm....wasnt that fiesta tuned? Did anyone see the little yellow badge on the tailgate! And why isnt a comparison to the polo gti being done?

  • @SwPiotrek
    @SwPiotrek 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @adamcrb5975
    @adamcrb5975 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely getting the mountune kit for my focus st

  • @Lowflyer02
    @Lowflyer02 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a video with the new Focus ST Mountune!

  • @19chucki74
    @19chucki74 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the go-fast goodies we never get over here in the States. We got the Focus ST, but I didn't know they made a Fiesta ST too! And the Clio is cute too.

    • @BoredLikeHelI
      @BoredLikeHelI 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      weve got the fiesta st in canada so you must have it in the states. i agree we dont get most european spec goodies but i think youre wrong on this one

    • @19chucki74
      @19chucki74 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      We got the Fiesta, but not the ST model. And we just got the Focus ST. That'll satisfy me for a while.

    • @yummdiddy
      @yummdiddy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chalres Kirkland you can buy the fiest st in the states, but you dont get the option of a 2 door. there is only the 4 door st

  • @Matt7R
    @Matt7R 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll have my Mountune MP215 kit finally fitted after over a year of having my ST, I wanted to get really used to the stock performance so I'd feel the benefit from the Mtune kit. So excited! If I'm honest I think Chris Harris is the reason I bought a Fiesta ST! Loved his review of it.

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I bet you were disappointed with it lol.

    • @Matt7R
      @Matt7R 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardhurr31 funnily enough I didn't actually go with Mountune, I went for a Revo stage 2 kit instead running somewhere between 240 and 250 hp, full Milltek non res turbo back exhaust (with Milltek sports cat), airtec intake, intercooler (can't remember brand) and I was NOT disappointed haha. Only thing I was disappointed with was how often I needed to change the front rubber lol

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Matt7R haha good choice. Glad you saw sense. 😂

  • @nicolasbocchino3761
    @nicolasbocchino3761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “30 degrees is a heat wave”
    Lol *laughs in south of France

  • @alexpoket
    @alexpoket 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a video off a fiat 500 asseto corsee direct competitor for these 2 car!

  • @punkenduro
    @punkenduro 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder whats funner, clio cup or a well built honda challange car

  • @rotarycomet
    @rotarycomet 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean? The gearbox is the same as in left-hand-drive cars.

  • @GavinMufclee
    @GavinMufclee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Cleo race car sounds absolutely stunning wowsers....

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Forcing people to have a 5 door with auto box only in this sector is going to put a lot of people off, especially fans of the old clio....which was 3 door with a 6 speed manual.
    Also I bet that gearbox is at least part of why the clio is so much more expensive than the ST. Kinda shot themselves in the foot there really.

    • @seriouslydont402
      @seriouslydont402 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +soundseeker63 yes clearly based on the comments you're absolutely right. I suppose people get hot hatches for the driving pleasure and fun of it all, not sheer speed, and as such the 6 sp fiesta is miles ahead in terms of popularity.

    • @pwnt666
      @pwnt666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +lalala kieran In australia the clio has seen a massive boost in sales over the previous gen clio due to the EDC gearbox. I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to also have a manual option but Renault stated that it was one or the other and chose to go dual clutch. Everyone is still hoping for a manual Gordini though and that would be a nice car. In this price bracket though the most popular small sports car in aus is by far the toyota 86

    • @seriouslydont402
      @seriouslydont402 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Bradey golf gti's are everywhere in Sydney and polo gti's too are very popular. I got a golf gti 2011, manual of course, love it. really is manic little car when pushed not always so mature

    • @robertwaffel8248
      @robertwaffel8248 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. But in Straya so few people can even operate a manual. It annoyed me so much, that a lot cool used cars that I wanted to buy were only available in auto. Auto gearboxes are a huge market there. In Europe however, manual is still the stuff most people can use/want to have/buy.
      Props to the few Aussies that drive stick.

    • @seriouslydont402
      @seriouslydont402 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Waffel gotta have hot hatches in manual imo.

  • @Relyt345
    @Relyt345 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dual clutches put out amazing shift times but in anything like a hot hatch I just don't think it's needed, people don't buy a hot hatch for maximum speed they buy them for fun. Just think a manual better suits both these cars

  • @dhruvad911
    @dhruvad911 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the Tesla Model S P85+? It just got to Europe, might not be a bad time to test it..say along with an M5 for good measure?

  • @birgir94
    @birgir94 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    the next Golf 7 R will ( if I remember correctly reading it on top gears website ) have the haldex drive like all the other R-series cars from them BUT it will be able to send 100% of the power to the rear wheels if you want so or it requires it

  • @keviin05
    @keviin05 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends on the person.
    Like me I'm having more fun when I'm at the edge of the limit the car can have. For some others it's enough when the tires start to spueesh.

  • @getahanddown
    @getahanddown 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    pt 3 Some of the offramps etc, all Auckland NZ. Westbound on Esmonde Rd, descending left hander to get on to SH1 Northbound. Northbound on SH1, get off at Albany Expressway / Greville Rd, right hander on the roundabout and switch to the left that rises steeply to get back on SH1. Huia Rd and on to gravel on Whatipu Rd.

  • @snobotz
    @snobotz 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is stating the temp in Celsius, the conversion is 86 degrees Fahrenheit ,pretty warm for the UK I think.

  • @simbo5681
    @simbo5681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Need to do the 220 trophy clio vs the montune fiesta

  • @whalescan
    @whalescan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about an engine transplant for the Fiesta.The one from a Focus ST, a wider track. and a Fiesta R5 bodyshell

  • @fabulousprofound
    @fabulousprofound 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am from north america so i don't know this... but whenever renault is mentioned, everyone says it's unreliable and will slowly fall apart. is this true?

  • @janrdoh
    @janrdoh 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when Chris has to go and do some work .

  • @paulyC
    @paulyC 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know the feel, Like living in Australia, almost 40+ on some days

  • @dj4monie
    @dj4monie 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We can't get the Clio here anyway. And the Fiesta ST is only available as a Four Door which I don't mind I don't get caught up in how many doors a car has. I want a Focus ST because it's larger and nicer inside but every time I watch a video by Chris or by Matt @ Smoking Tire on their Modifed ST,it makes me want one especially if the banks won't let me have a loaded up Focus ST, might as well get a Fiesta ST, loaded get a tune (not Mountune in the US that's too conservative), exhaust and something I won't mention, increase the power by 40%... Its the small car that's good at EVERYTHING and that's hard to ignore.

  • @livedeliciously
    @livedeliciously 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad Ford is putting out great hot hatches. Hopefully, other manufacturers will follow suite.

  • @pokemon989359
    @pokemon989359 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody is too old for hooning around in a hot hatch! Although if you have space needs, the Focus could be better for you. I drove my friend's around and it was sublime.

  • @Underpantsniper
    @Underpantsniper 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im sure both would be a ton of fun on the streets or track

  • @domingoscarrasquinho7025
    @domingoscarrasquinho7025 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    After the Ferrari video it would br very dificult to top that one but still a good one this is! keep it up Chris!

  • @jbiz30
    @jbiz30 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to hear Chris's take on a Mazdaspeed3.

  • @xXbackcountryXx
    @xXbackcountryXx 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Forza4You My e36 m3 has the dog leg gear box and it's really natural. First gear feels like its in the same place as normal and you have to really reach for reverse.

  • @gianhet
    @gianhet 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not really a hatchback anymore, is it?
    The 1 serie is quite bigger than the clio etc

  • @pdpiper
    @pdpiper 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is trail braking?

  • @MrKypseli7
    @MrKypseli7 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you own both of them?

  • @WanganRacer2000
    @WanganRacer2000 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you driven the Clio not in the Race-Mode in the Drag?!

  • @markingfeat
    @markingfeat 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why? It's exactly the same. The gears are in the same position. The Reverse is in the front but that is very common on Diesel powered cars, and it's easy to get used to.

  • @uhcyzrk3
    @uhcyzrk3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:57 now that's how you hit the apex

  • @kevinho1922
    @kevinho1922 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clio is way better looking to me but preference varies from person to person, honestly looks like for won this one, cheaper, faster the only reason you'd get the Clio is if you just prefer it lol

  • @RussellRobinson77
    @RussellRobinson77 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would make sense for them to sell it as a Nissan in North America. I would like to see that :) I wish car companies would sell all the models all over the world, not just limited to markets. (even if in limited runs)

  • @Buffington916
    @Buffington916 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It has a roof scoop. I love it.

  • @Desmaad
    @Desmaad 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm loving that red seatbelt.

  • @porsche911CarreraRSR
    @porsche911CarreraRSR 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    RWD and shots wheelbase is a recipe for a legend!! Lancia Stratos, Toyota GT86, Lotus Elise, Mazda Miata etc...

  • @LasseSkjttHansen
    @LasseSkjttHansen 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really? That sound fantastic! Where have you heard about that?

  • @conza1989
    @conza1989 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, it is using the other hand though, maybe if it were flipped it'd be easier to go between, but having driven both lhd and rhd, you'd be glad its the same, trust me.

  • @stevenmillar8810
    @stevenmillar8810 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it supercharged or is the noise gearbox wine ?

    • @drj2039
      @drj2039 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha must be supercharged and turbocharged

  • @joaosoares3719
    @joaosoares3719 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    You might want to check out Fifth Gear review on the Clio RS / 208 GTI / Fiesta ST trio (season 23 episode 5)...

  • @Rune_Goto
    @Rune_Goto 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you have to do to get a job like this? I'm jealous!

  • @SophiaAphrodite
    @SophiaAphrodite 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched an episode where these guys took a used Fiesta ST and tuned it with a chip and bolt on upgrades to over 400 HP and 400 lbs of torque.

  • @DemGamingVideos
    @DemGamingVideos 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love both cars, but I think the front end of the new Clio is a little gaudy.. the previous model had it on looks from the front anyway, the back of that Clio looks fantastic!

  • @blackb15
    @blackb15 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it could be faster than the Focus for less money? Right...

  • @surviveasl
    @surviveasl 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Clio rims!!

  • @briceepl
    @briceepl 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very true! I forgot the first generation... ;)

  • @mpfourfour
    @mpfourfour 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a 280BHP Civic Type-R currently being tested on the Nord, due in 2015!

  • @wangonguy62
    @wangonguy62 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the problem with paddles in cars like this is day to day the novelty wears off. On the track its great but the percentage of time spent on the track vs street is very small. In town a manual in a small car or hot hatch will always be more entertaining day to day. If the had just offered both no one would have said anything. Both great. Ford would be my choice.

  • @Gasinduced
    @Gasinduced 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might have to import one for now. Costly if you have to repair it though.

  • @HoganFan69
    @HoganFan69 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    30 Degrees Celsius a heatwave? Its just turned Spring in South Africa and we are already averaging at 30 :) when summer comes we will be at 38-40

  • @lukemurphy2599
    @lukemurphy2599 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mountune needs to come to the US market. Ford has the best hot hatches at the moment and I think they would sell well in the US.