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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Sude and Orestis live in Nicosia, Cyprus. They’re both 22, both medical students with a passion for political science - yet they live under two different governments.
Nicosia is the last divided capital in Europe: a Turkish occupation in the North, the Republic of Cyprus in the South, and a thick green line cutting the capital in half to keep the two separated. We talked to two young Cypriots from either side of the ceasefire line to learn what life on a divided island feels like, and what their dream is for their home.
Chapters:
00:00 - 01:14 Intro
01:14 - 01:44 The most desired island in the world
01:44 - 02:33 A nation of refugees
02:33 - 05:10 Brief history of Cyprus
05:10 - 06:33 Living under the Turkish occupation
06:33 - 07:37 Heritage
07:37 - 09:15 We are Europe
09:15 - 10:56 What's next?
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Hi guys! Elena here, the journalist who produced this. A little disclaimer: the Cyprus problem is truly complex, so the views expressed here don't have the aim to describe those of an entire community. We know that the experiences of Greek and Turkish Cypriots can differ vastly, so please voice your opinions while remaining respectful of other users' perspectives. Thank you for watching!
Elena, I wish the video mentioned the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" that preceded "TRNC." "Turkish" Cypriots had other administrations before "TRNC," but the transition from the federated state to "TRNC" was a critical one--in a very negative way for "Turkish" Cypriots and Cyprus in general.
@@hsevay Hey! Thanks for your comment! You're right, we mentioned the TRNC was declared only in '83, but wish we had more time to go into the specifics
Dear Elena, congrats on your work. With all due respect, i would not agree, however, that the Cyprus issue is truly complex. On the contrary, it is quite simple and straightforward. What is all about? It's about abolishing the Republic of Cyprus and allowing Turkey's boots to step on Cyprus's soil. This crime was carefully devised BEFORE the establishment of the Republic. That's why in the foundation agreements there were provisions for guarantors and intervention rights. That's why the Turks of Cyprus were upgraded from a minority to a community in the Constitution. That's why the Greeks of Cyprus were downgraded from a majority to a community constitutionslly equal to the minority. That's why Turkey provided armaments and training to the Turks of Cyprus while the Greeks were almost totally unarmed. That's why the Turks of Cyprus turned their guns against the Greeks, provoking them, inducing them to defend themselves, playing the victims of the Greeks. NATO decided to abolish the state and placed Cyprus under the boots of NATO member States. They cheated when they proposed the establishment of a Republic (instead of the demand by the Greeks for Enosis). They cheated because they knew in advance that there were all necessary mechanisms in place that would lead such state to total failure. Such design was, yes, diabolical complex. But triggering the outcome was so simple as could be executed even by a child. Set up the so-called TC community, provide them weapons, impose on them a brutal leadership so no one TC will object (remember those TC who disagree with their leaders), provide intervention rights to Turkey, set the TC to attack the population, see the Turkish hordes landing on Cyprus's ground and the rest can be depicted by the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Look what they have done in the occupied areas since 1974. It's wrong. They do not occupy the areas. They turkify them. It's much worse. They bring settlers. The changed the names of towns. They destroy our cultural heritage. They destroyed our churches, even the graves of our grandfathers. Like a growing cancer. And they are proud of it. That's what they are. That's what the Cyprus issue is about. And they achieved all this with the strong support of the western civilised Christian countries. Look how they reacted against the Russian invasion of Ukraine and how gently the treat Turkey in relation to its invasion of Cyprus. It's disgusting. Isn't it? Disgusting but simple. Not complex at all. Please forgive me. I failed to mention the notorious Acheson Plan and the dictatorship imposed over the people of Greece. "If the Greek Government does not agree, we (USA) will change the Greek Government" they said. And they changed it. 😠
@@enentr Sude, if I spell her name correctly, if she is a real turkish Cypriot can have Cypriot citizenship and passport. Every turkish Cypriot has all the rights of a Cypriot citizen.
Of course this is not happening for turkish settlers from "motherland" turkey.
@@yiannispalamas1307 Hi Yiannis, Sude is the child of a mixed marriage - a marriage between a Turkish Cypriot and a Turkish national. As such, she can't obtain the citizenship of the Republic of Cyprus, despite being born and raised in the country.
Sude said "I have never been in Turkey in my whole life "in 6:21 but her Linkedin profile said she is graduated from Gazi University Faculty of Medicine in 2018 (in Ankara-Turkey) and Anadolu University Faculty of Political Sciences (in Eskişehir-Turkey.) That's AT LEAST 10 years of study in Turkey.
Why are you lying Sude?
Also, University is free for KKTC Citizens in Turkey but it's paid for citizens of other countries. If you don't like Turkey, why did you took university here? Why did you benefit from free education paid for from my taxes?
She never lived in Turkey, Sude said she continued her studies remotely. There is no other place where she could have gone, because she has no passport or ID Card and the only country recognising the TRNC as such is Turkey.@@shinitai-
Medical education takes 6 years in TR. Did she become a doctor from a distance? Don't talk nonsense. Maybe she may have taken certain courses remotely during Covid. @@enentr
@@enentr you can't took medical education "remotely"
@@enentrShe has a passport and ID card. Why do you lie? All Turkish Cypriots have the right to obtain a Republic of Cyprus identity. She could also study in European countries but Turkey offered him the right to free education.
I am from Taiwan and I visited Northern Cyprus two weeks ago. Landing in at the Ercan airport and staying in the Lefcosa, I crossed the border two times. My feeling is that people were just happy about having peaceful lives and hopefully making more money. At nights. I enjoyed seeing young people sitting and chatting with each other in a coffee street that literally adhered along the buffer zone which was wide enough to house a football court. I also spent time in Girne, a beautiful seashore where an old castle stood majestically.
Everything is Greek Cypriot culture brother. They stole it. Do your research dont @ me
@@paschalisiordanous4937 there is no Greek in Cyprus ,Greek Cypriots are Greek by the church they belong to. Christians of Cyprus is left behind from diferent people who ruled Cyprus over the centuries,
Turkish Cypriots were a majority in many places like Girne/Kyrenia before the 19th century
just one critisim : You should have talked with more Cypriots. Please make more and we will keep supporting you guys. Good Day!
@@cypthug We wish! Unfortunately given the length of these videos we can’t interview more than two people. Thank you for your comment!
Out of all Turkish cypriots selecting that girl is very meaningfull !
If Turkish soldiers hadn't left their wives and children behind in 1974 and gone to Cyprus to fight to save her grandfather, Sude probably wouldn't be there to speak about "occupation". I'm sorry Sude, you may feel European, but that doesn't change the fact that you are Turkish, when the "Annan Plan Referendum" was held in 2004, Turkish Cypriots voted yes to unification, while Greek Cypriots voted no. The people of Cyprus may rightfully be disturbed by the actions of some Turks who went to Cyprus from Türkiye and may complain about some other political things but at the end of the day, remember that we are your friends, realize what you have experienced in the past and be a little grateful. Greetings from İstanbul to all peaceful people of Cyprus.
Stupid arguments. Annan plan was very unfair to the Greek Cypriots. The plan gave equal represent of the Turks and Greeks even though The Ratio of Turks to Greece was about 1:4. Furthermore Most Turks in the north are not Cypriot Turks but settlers from the mainland Turkey who came after 1974. The deal even allowed Turkish troops to remain on the island. Basically the deal allowed Turkey to militarily occupy the islands and let the people who were loyal to Turkey to control the government. Why should have the Greek Cypriots accepted such a lopsided deal?
@@ChickenVeggi Annan Plan Referendum was planned by United Nations even de name of Annan Plan Referendum comes from secretary Kofi Annan who planned it so go explain your ideas to United Nations, besides it wasn't an argument in my comment, just an example. After the ethnical clean endeavors and "enosis" idea thousands of Cyprus Turks leave their homelands and emigrated to Türkiye or necessarily moved to North side of Cyprus, your are giving ratio and speaking about Turks settlered from Türkiye but you can't ignore the truth that Cyprus Turks was the real victims of the whole process and my comment was for some grandchilds of them who are extremely ungrateful to Türkiye, if Ayşe didn't go on vacation or the Turkish government had never intervened in the situation you'd probably be giving 1: 40 (optimistically) ratio now so ı don't understand what you find stupid ?
@ChickenVeggi
And the TsC's still voted overwhelmingly positive on it. Even today they want that BBF bullshit. At the Greek's expense.
The problem is not ethnic. Its political . Some People on both sides of the border share the same nationalistic ideologies that are keeping us divided . As a Greek Speaking Cypriot, i can tell our brothers from the North , there are hundreds of thousands of people who want a reunification so you can have a better quality of life and we can live together in peace .
The problem is unfortunately ethnic. A Greek is a Greek a Turkish is a Turkish. I don't believe that there exists a common umbrella identity of being Cypriot even if there used to be, these days it's not palpable.Take the example of Oresti and Sude, they have nothing in common, it's nearly impossible for them to come across each other in social circles. They study in different countries, they speak different mother tongues, they have different values towards life even moral values are different due to the effect of the religion even though Turkish Cypriots are more secular than Greek Cypriots which is evident as the first president of the Republic of Cyprus was Makarios. All in all, only thing that unites them is their zeal to get across to the other side. Orestis thinks of this as a claim of territory, Sude takes this as a claim of identity in the form of acceptance a piece of paper to tell her she is Cypriot real Cypriot to travel abroad, for orestis the land of her Giagia left in the North, a childhood fairy tale
@@nonamenoname2767could you please explaine why the British of Turkish Cypriot origin do not demand a separate State within the UK? Say, a Turkish Republic of Southern England?
Are there borders? And North? And brothers? Really? And your standard of living will be high under an environment which guarantees the continuation of the violation of every single principle of human rights? I am impressed.
@@phaedon3408 what do you call the barbed wired and road blocks that divide the island in two ?
Yes north the same way Paphos is on the West , Famagusta on the East and Larnaca on the South
Yes brothers for a million reasons
Any questions left unanswered ?
@GN-pz2lg I call it "Attilas", Occupation, turkification, violation of international law and human rights. Not borders... No. No way, borders.
was one year old at the time. We ( Mum & Dad & Siblings) lived in a council estate in central London where growing up during that time & the 1980’s being told to go back home. We would love to
British troops out of Cyprus!
I just did a week long study abroad there in Limassol, but I also went to Nocosia, Omodos, Pathos and Larnaca. I loved it!
Nice
7:23 are the old neighbors welcoming?
Good
Both sides made mistakes...if someday they decide to teach at schools the real history of our island then there is hope that one day in a lot of years we can all live together...I don't have a problem ofcourse but for most people to accept this it will take a lot of years
what would have happened, if the Turkish army did not displaced the Greek Cypriot population how the things could be ? I am pretty sure someone was a MI6 agent to destroy the island and divide into two.
cyprus isnt the last devided capital. what about belfast n.ireland
Belfast is in Northern Ireland, a country, where the sole authority is that of Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom. There are of course different communities with different wishes for their country, but there’s no other authority (which is the case for Cyprus). We just published a video about Northern Ireland, check it out!
Nice propogonda
h&m, mc donalds, bershka....
şu videoyu jahrein’e atın
I love Cyprus.. regards Richard London UK 🇬🇧
The problem is indeed quite complex, with no simple solution. The political guarantees Turkish Cypriots would need to accept unification could leave the union politically gridlocked, and Greek Cypriots unhappy for the disproportionate influence. This is why the Annan Plan failed - it gave both sides veto power and equal number of judges, as far as I know.
Also, the presence of Turkish settlers is left open, and it has no solution that pleases everyone.
You explained the period before 1974 very briefly. This was really important. You must explain what Greece is doing. You did not say that Turkey's intervention in the island was a necessity. Cyprus President Makarios has a statement. He said that Greece was responsible for what happened on the island.
As a Brit with a paternal grandmother who is Turkish Cypriot. When I did a DNA test it doesn't show up as Turkish, or Greek. It comes up as CYPRIOT. I know that my Grandmother grew up in Limassol speaking Turkish AND Greek. All Cypriot culture and all of Cyprus is my culture - greek and turkish. Cyprus should be one and the occupation must end.
Usually these tests only showcase DNA and genetic make up based only on recent DNA. In fact DNA in Greece also includes Albanian, Bulgarian and Romanian DNA which Greek Cypriots don't have. So Cypriot DNA is a very confused term. In fact Greek Cypriots share a very close genetic proximity with the Aegean Islands and Cretans (the Greek Cretan population is the closest genetic make up apart from Cypriot in my DNA). The fact that Turkish Cypriots have a common pre-Ottoman ancestry with the Greek Cypriots only proves that they are local people who converted, due to many reasons and used to be Greek. However nowadays after many decades and three hundred years they have completely adopted the Turkish culture and thus ethnically they are Turkish. Which of course they are is nothing wrong with it and should be respected along the other cultures of Cyprus.
Wtf is “Cypriot”
There is no such thing as Cypriot DNA, since Cyprus was never in its entire history, an isolated region
@@azmhyr There is such thing as Cypriot DNA just like how there is such thing as Irish, Sicilian and Sardinian DNA.
Cyprus genetically is more isolated than Greece, Balkans. Medieval Greece and Balkans received a lot of Slavic admixture and later Greece received a lot of Albanian and Vlach admixture.
Cypriots are the closest people genetically to ancient Greeks from 2000 years ago
@a_Gorilla117
I have my doubts about the isolation of Cyprus, given that it was frequently conquered by foreigners. Cypriot DNA would simply suggest that there is a separate ethnicity of some such. It's precisely this kind of thinking that allows the linobambaki to advocate for a sanitized Cypriot identity without any Hellenic element. Similarly for Sicily, it's been held by so many different people across history, it would be far fetched to claim its a cluster on its own.
0:24 omg the kittennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Out of curiosity why would Turks from Turkey want to settle in Northern Cyprus?
The minimum wage in North Cyprus is much higher than in Turkey
Sude seems to have forgetten what had happened before 1974. One thing I can assure you though is that, she couldn't talk here now if Turkey had not intervened. Learn from your history Sude, From another Turkish Cypriot.
We should all learn from history, that's true, and learning from history often means not repeating the mistakes of the past, and not being forever defined by the past. That's what a United Cyprus is. The EU, Cypriot government and Greek Cypriots pose no threat to Sude in 2024 in any way. All of us in the European family of nations want to see a United Cyprus where people like Sudan aren't prisoners of Turkish nationalism and settler collonialism that they want no part of.
Onun gelişigüzel mi şeçildiğini düşünüyorsun😊
@@TheThOdOr1s While I agree with your words on importance of not repeating the past's mistakes I would slightly disagree with you on Turkish Cypriots like Sude being “prisoners of Turkish nationalism". I'm a Turkish Cypriot myself. I was born and brought up in North Cyprus and absolutely no one is prisoners of Turkish nationalism in Cyprus. Turkey provides us with money and fresh water. The only thing I would criticise about Turkey is the fact that they repopulated the North of Cyprus with the Kurds who are mostly supporting a terrorist organisation called Pkk and also bringing ignorant Turks from the mainland instead of bringing in more intellectual and smart Turks from west Turkey.
Congrats on the video guys! Is there any hope left anymore? I don't know.
Orestis has the correct mindset in my opinion. More people should be like him and just spiral out!
But why Sude has not got EU passport although she is Cypriot? I think that topic should have been also analysed.
Because Sude is mixed marriage
She talked about the reasons -- being born in a mixed marriage in the TRNC means she only gets that citizenship, not the Republic of Cyprus' one. She also expanded on how she could get a Turkish one, and why she doesn't want it! It is indeed a very important topic.
@@enentrthe reason is not that she is the child of a mixed marriage. The true reason is that one of her parents entered and resided in Cyprus illegally. How can one expect the legitimate authorities to provide her a citizenship? Regardless of the fact that she hasn't done anything illegal to be blamed personally. This is indeed an unfortunate situation for which, however, the State has no responsibility.
@@phaedon3408 i guess his father side is from turkey, then why she is saying she doesn't feel she belong to turkey? it is same like you born in germany to turkish father and you dont feel turkish. okey then change your name from mehmet to hans? 🤣
@@enentr why cyprus government not issuing her a passport, i see many russians got their cyprus passports who never even landed on cyprus, but cyprus state denying passport to someone born to a greek cypriot mother who lived her whole life in the island. even this example shows how cruel cyprus government would be to turkish people if the island were united.
Interesting video ✌️
Good job, i love the video
You should do a video on the conflicts in Georgia with Abkhazia and South Ossetia too. The South Caucasus unfortunately has similar divisions.
I just got back from 2 weeks in Cyprus. What a beutiful country. I'm in love with the culture, Phaphos, Limasol, Aya Napa, Nicosia! Everything!
Este joven es muy inteligente y valiente. ❤
from this video, we see the difference;
Greek Cypriots identify them as Greeks while Turks Cypriots identify them as Cypriots
Orestis identifies as Greek Cypriot, not Greek!
Cyprus 🇨🇾 belongs to Somalia 🇸🇴
Yet Cyprus is fully independent of Greece and Turkey is the TRNC 😂
@@mikem8211TRNC is fully independent too
@aegonskywalker TRNC is fully independent of Turkey? They pump 500 million a year into your economy? The population in the North has more mainlanders than Cypriots? Turkey builds on Cypriot land selling it to mainlanders thus not boosting the Northern Cypriot economy? Independent you say 🤣🤣🤣
Isn't it ironic? Turkey ends up footing the bill for various aspects of your grandparents' lives, and yet the USA imposes an embargo on Turkey for this very reason. Does that really justify labeling Turkey as an occupier? Take a look at the photos depicting the situation on the Turkish side before the Turkish military intervention. It's likely that you wouldn't even exist if Turkey hadn't provided crucial assistance during that time...
Yeah, famagust sure looked like a warzone in afghanistan
@@greekcomenterperson446 I mean bloody christmas...
Cyprus is in Asia
Yes geographically but Cyprus is part of the European Union and its population is mostly of European ethnicity. So the Cypriots can call themselves European
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 I understand the political affiliation and ethnic affiliations but a country’s continent is based on geography. As a result, Cypriots are Asian.
Would you consider Australia as apart of Europe? Most people there are of “European” descent and is apart of the Eurovision.
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 No they're not. Cipriot ethnicity isn't European. The only reason they're in EU is that the Greek Cipriots are Christian and Greece blackmailed the EU for the entry of the Eastern European countries after the collapse of the Varshaw Pact
Μακριά και αγαπημένοι, το μεγαλύτερο δωρο του Ντεκτας στους κυοτραιος ηταν ο διαχωρισμός. Εύχομαι στους αδελφούς στιν βορά καλή τύχη.
If there was no operation called invasion, the elders of the family would be massacred in a bathtub, without women or children, as was done to the family of medical major Nihat Ilhan, if they were unlucky, and if they were lucky, they would be exiled to Turkey. If people had become Europeans by making their hair blonde, naturally blonde Bosnians would not have been massacred by Europeans a quarter of the way into the 21st century. Most of Cyprus is not like this. Cypriots who are old enough to live in ancient times are devoted to Turkey. But those who are under British influence see Turkey as an invader. Because they were born abundantly and did not experience massacres.
Excellent and true to life.
During the rule of the Ottoman Empire, Turkish Cypriots were never a minority in Cyprus until the beginning of the 1800s. Therefore, please refrain from providing false information to the people or conducting interviews with only 2-3 individuals, as they do not represent the majority of the population.
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Why are you so eager to call it an occupation? Has any of the involved parties ever suggested any other solution to systematic murdering of Turkish Cypriots by EOKA? As a Turkish Cypriot I am not happy to live under the shadow of Turkey but let's not forget how Greeks, Greek Cypriots and the UK pushed Turkish Cypriots there! What would happen if Turkey had not intervened by using it internationally recognized right as a guaranteur country? What have the Greek Cypriots done to reunify the island?
Can people born in TRNC get Cypriot passports?
Hi Paul, people born in the TRNC have a Cypriot ID if both their parents were also born in the country. In Sude’s case, because her mother is Turkish Cypriot but her father is a Turkish national, she doesn’t qualify.
@@enentr what happens in opposite case, if one of your parents is a Greek national?
Your family blood line has to be a Cypriot (We are from the south). My mother just got her TRNC ID. We have issue with the Republic of Cyprus (South) with the spelling of the family due to not matching up with our grandmother (mother side) Cyprus birth (Born in 1920 from Silikou) and USA death certificate. I should easily get my ID for TRNC. I'm pushing it off for the next couple of years due to my work position. Once I get the TRNC ID. I can pass it down to my son when he was born in the USA.
@@paulmattt Has to be married to a Cypriot citizen for at least 3 years; have Cypriot roots or live in Cyprus for 7 years w/temporary residence permit or 5 years as a permanent resident.
Elena mou, a colleague here. please correct your text. It is NOT North Cyprus. It is OCCUPIED Cyprus.
Hi Irene, it can be both north and occupied. Hence why we repeatedly called it the “occupied north”. Thank you for your comment, hope you’ll watch the full video :)
@@enentrwhat about the British? Are they occupying?
If Turkish soldiers must leave what about the British and Greeks?
@bigboyrambo2581 the Greeks do not occupy anything. If the Turkish withdraw there is no reason for the Greeks to stay. As for the British they have either to pay the rent the owe or to leave.
@HuseyinArclar-jo1wr I hope one day your country is invaded and occupied by another bigger country. And then Remember this comment you just made. As for the properties of the Turks of Cyprus in the free area of Cyprus, are always at their disposal. They are entitled to own and use them. Nobody has taken their properties. There are no occupying troops in the free part of Cyprus. Have a nice day...
@@bigboyrambo2009 is this comment of yours, a message from His Excellency the Sultan of Turkey? I doubt. Because I do not think that Mr Erdoğan and Turkey's deep state will agree with your 50-50 proposal . They want it all. Their stomach is too large to be fed and satisfied with the 50% only. Read the leading work of your Nihat Erim. The retaking of Cyprus. Their karagioze Tatar says it every day. "2 states, next to each other, COOPERATING AMONG THEMSELVES". Turkey's plan is to make Cyprus AS A WHOLE its own protectorate in Eastern Mediterranean. If it is only half, it doesn't work. Understand?
The problems of Cyprus have been caused by outside influences, including the CIA. Cyprus is a victim of it's geographical location and has been described as ''the unsincable aircraft carrier''
Cyprus beatiful balkan europe from Albania 🇦🇱
typical British tactic. The same thing they did in India, dividing the nation into two. its the British design every time.
@@gnulecturesillegal? After the independence of Cyprus from Britain, both Greece and Turkey had the right to militarily intervene in case the independence was threatened. And it was threatened. Eoka kicked Makarios and placed Sampson. Go search who Sampson was then talk.
Same thing they did in india? You mean making pakistan and bangladesh seperate nations?
İngiliz sana gidip Kıbrıs hükümetini devir, Türklere soykırım uygula sonra da adayı Yunanistana mı bagla dedi.. Saçmalamışsın..
No making India and Pakistan the separate nations. @@RichardMontgomeryYT
Amazing video, but something to know:
Sude (the girl being interviewed), living in Northern Cyprus, is automatically a Republic of Cyprus citizen. Therefore, she can get a Cyprus passport by default. Sude and any Turkish Cypriots who are BORN in Northern Cyprus and whose parents have roots on the island are automatically Republic of Cyprus citizens. The Republic of Cyprus passport is internationally recognized, and Sude can use it to travel to Europe and the world. The Republic of Cyprus recognizes all Turkish Cypriots as its own citizens.
I think Sude already has the Republic of Cyprus passport, but she does not admit that she has it in this interview.
Hi there, thanks for the comment! While it is true that Cypriots born in the Republic, regardless of being TRNC citizens, have the right to a passport, that's not true for children of mixed marriages, which is Sude's case. One of her parents is Turkish Cypriot, but the other is Turkish, so this doesn't give her the right to the passport of the Republic of Cyprus. That of the children of mixed marriages is a hugely complicated matter in Cyprus!
@@enentr appreciate your reply! That’s why If you have already read my comment carefully I said “Turkish Cypriots who are BORN…and whose parents have roots on the island are automatically Republic of Cypres citizens” but I did not know Sude’s other parent is Turkish from mainland Türkiye. Now it makes sense. Thank you again! 🙏🏻
Someone give that girl a cyprus passport immediately!!! She cant have a Starbucks coffee in her defacto country. Very sad.
SHE JUST EXPOSED YOUR SHAMLESS LIES.
No McDonald's store, either. As if she needs extra weight with that body.
Aslında kıbrıslıların ingiltereye yerleşme hakları da var. Acaba ne problemi var da, ingiliz yerine yunanlara özenmiş durumda
@@vanophibilsiron7781 kızda kafa olmadığı on km öteden belli bir de tıp kontenjanına çökmüş onun yerine yurdum insanı okusaydı daha yararlı olurdu. Ne Starbucks mış arkadaş soydaşlarını sattı iki kahveye bez parçasına.
It is not an occupation. It is an intervention. Have you ever read how Turks suffered from Greek-Cypriot attacks for years ? Many Turkish-Cypriot lost their lives, lost their families lost their future before the intervention..
Ξέρεις είμαι από τους ανθρώπους που είναι ακόμα υπέρ της ένωσης. Αλλά ακούγοντας αυτά τα πράγματα, μου αλλάζουν λίγο τη γνώμη. Όντως το να μην επισκέπτεσαι ένα μέρος όντως είναι σαν να το παρατάς τους άλλους. Δεν ξέρω τι θησαυρός έχει η κύπρος γιατί δεν έχω πάει ποτέ μου αλλά δεν λεω όχι να την επισκεφτώ.
Dedeleri mezarda ters döndü
We have something similar in Moldova near Romania. Moldova is a part of Romania stolen by the Russians which are strongly influencing it and trying to put it through a process of russification. Your problems seems to be solved but its complex yes... A lot of problems appear for the weaker countries which can't seem to decide there own fate/situation.
Moldova does want to be a part of Romania but Transnistria doesn't (it wasn't historically Romanian), and Gagauzia will only accept entering Romania if they'll stay autonomous. But if so, the Hungarians of Szekely land will want autonomy too.
That's why these ethnic conflicts are indeed in reality very complex, and oversimplifying them would be bad. Maybe some Moldovans do want reunification and feel Romanian and so would feel that's historical justice and self-determination... But what about the Gagauz people for example? They don't share this perspective at all... For them it could be viewed as the opposite. Therefore there isn't one right or wrong side of this conflict. Except of some side decides to escalate and start being violent and disproportionate.
@@gamermapper You make it complex its actually simple. Moldova is Romania and it should be back with Romania as a whole. You take small issues and make them big. We already have cities of hungarians in Romania, no1 is dying over that.
@@savagedonutthat never be a small issue bro
Here the girl says she has never lived in Turkey. But she studied medicine in Turkey. I've never heard such nonsense in my life. There is no such thing as studying medicine remotely in Turkey.
🙏🏻 United Federal Cyprus is only solution!🇨🇾
Right, it should be like in Belgium, Greek Community and Turkish Community.
All Greek flags must be removed from the south and Turkiye flags from the north.
All foreign troops must leave.
Britain must leave Cyprus.
UN must leave Cyprus.
Cypriots language should be Greek and Turkish.
Greek and Turkish Cypriots must share the government 50-50.
Or just forget about a united Cyprus.
But not under Greek Cyriot rules!
The problem is a political one Cyprus is Cyprus with 2 constituent peoples Greeks and Turks
The problem of Cyprus is complicated. Back in 1974 turks wanted to invade Cyprus no matter what! The coup of Cyprus was just a reason to start the invasion. Behind the coup was a well plan made by UK USA Turkey and some traitors of Junta(Of Greece)so that by starting the invasion and occupying half the island they would satisfy turkeys hunger. And the reason for that is turks would start helping USA in their fight against Russia! Henry Kissinger i think he once said that he prefer turkey over Cyprus or Greece because of its geopolitical place next to Russia. Now 2024 we again see turks threating Greece to take half the islands in the Aegean and they also are trying to let illegal immigrants in Cyprus and in Greece so that the population over time would become a non Greek and thus over time both countries would become turkeys vassal. As you can see turks are a problem in the region and as long as they have this ambitions we will never be at peace with them. Either turkey will join EU or its a war between Greece/Cyprus and turkey!
As an Azerbaijani turk I think both Greek and turks in Cyprus should unit and live under one Republic in peace and harmony........ because they all belong to that land ❤......
But not under Greek or GC rule. i could say the same thing to you about karabakh. C*
@@TMan1965 Karabakh belongs in Armenia...
@@user-zi2cp4ii6bThe last time in 2020, after the victory of Azerbaijan, Karabakh became Azerbaijan's
@@ilosteverything0 Karabağ always was a part of Azerbaijan as myself from Karabağ!!!
@@ahmadovasvlog5028 Did I say something different, I said that after the victory in Karabakh, it was reconnected to Azerbaijan?
Cypriots are able to live together if there's not any intervention.
Bilgisayarına kanlı noel yaz ve izle.
From my analysis, the problem with the Turkish speaking Cypriots stem from the amount of mainland Turks entering daily and assimilating themselves as the lady spoke. The amount of Turkish speaking Cypriots keeps dropping daily, I can't imagine what will be of them in 10 years time.. probably extinction. Cyprus is for the Cypriot.
Cıa
When are the Cypriots wake up
Nothing but respect and love to our Greek brothers and sisters from Cyprus,all the best from Serbia!🇷🇸❤️🇨🇾🇬🇷
With all due respect, you know, the Cyprus debate becomes an unnecessarily heated and a divisive one when one inserts a Greek or Turkish flag or when one makes a positive reference to one side. It is a bit like praising German-speaking Swiss people in a sort of discriminatory way.. Just saying . With best wishes..😇
🇽🇰 Kosovoya selam
@@SD-ti9so Alejkum Selam to Serbian Kosovo
8:59 alışmadınız mı daha la provakatifmiş. Fırsat bulduğumuz an çökecez üstüne
Senin dediğin "Türkiye sizi kurtarmasaydı sizler de denize dökülecektiniz!" kelimesinin "Ben gidersen devlet yıkılır!", "Ben düşersem Almanya yok olur!", "Biz varsak doğalgaz var! Biz yoksak doğalgaz yok!" gibi diktatörce sözlerinden hiçbir farkı yok! Ayrıca eskiden Kıbrıslı Türkler ile Kıbrıslı Rumlar içiçeydi lakin daha sonra ise Yunan emperyalistleri ile Anglo-Sakson emperyalistleri tarafından ikiye bölündü bu yüzden Kıbrıs'ta birleşme olmalı tamam mı? Ayrıca Kıbrıslı Rumlar Annan Planını reddettiler Çünkü Kıbrıslı Rumlar Türkiye'den gelmiş kişilerin Kıbrıs'ta kalmasını istemiyorlar. Eğer Annan Planı kabul edilseydi Türkiye'den gelmiş insanlar Kıbrıs'ta kalacaktı. Kıbrıslı Rumlar Türkiye'den gelmiş insanları istemiyor. Çünkü Türkiye 1975'te yanlış nüfus politikası uygulayarak kendi ülkesinden KKTC'ye suça bulaşmış cahil insanları soktu ve KKTC'de suç oranları arttı. Bu durum Kıbrıslı Rumlarda ve Kıbrıslı Türklerde çok büyük bir göçmen karşıtlığına sebep oldu tamam mı?
Senin dediğin "Türkiye sizi kurtarmasaydı sizler de denize dökülecektiniz!" kelimesinin Recep Tayyip Erdoğan'ın "Ben gidersen devlet yıkılır!" cümlesinden, Adolf Hitler'in "Ben düşersem Almanya yok olur!" cümlesinden ve Donald Trump'un "Beni azlederseniz piyasalar çöker! Herkes yoksullaşır!" cümlesinden hiçbir farkı yok! Ayrıca eskiden Kıbrıslı Türkler ile Kıbrıslı Rumlar içiçeydi lakin daha sonra ise Yunan emperyalistleri ile Anglo-Sakson emperyalistleri tarafından ikiye bölündü bu yüzden Kıbrıs'ta birleşme olmalı tamam mı? Ayrıca Kıbrıslı Rumlar Annan Planını reddettiler Çünkü Kıbrıslı Rumlar Türkiye'den gelmiş kişilerin Kıbrıs'ta kalmasını istemiyorlar. Eğer Annan Planı kabul edilseydi Türkiye'den gelmiş insanlar Kıbrıs'ta kalacaktı. Kıbrıslı Rumlar Türkiye'den gelmiş insanları istemiyor. Çünkü Türkiye 1975'te yanlış nüfus politikası uygulayarak kendi ülkesinden KKTC'ye suça bulaşmış cahil insanları soktu ve KKTC'de suç oranları arttı. Bu durum Kıbrıslı Rumlarda ve Kıbrıslı Türklerde çok büyük bir göçmen karşıtlığına sebep oldu tamam mı?
it's remind me West germans and East germans
Oresti you are so honest and real patriot,,, BRAVO
No one can explain how this greek island doesnt belong to Greece. They identify it as an independent country for no reason.
Calm down leonidas. because the island never belonged to greece. There is no real greece country after rome conqured them.
@@vanophibilsiron7781 u don't know history whatsoever. Cyprus speaks Greek for 3000 years. There is nothing to be proven
@@beardlong8235 greek? bro you are just talk like turks, eat like turks, look like turks. you are just christian turks. Your traditions are same. Only different religion.
Cyprus was controlled by romans, muslims, turks etc. is there any greek country controlled cyprus?
@@vanophibilsiron7781 psycho?
@@beardlong8235 Nope you just want to hear what you want. İf you look from west, you are same bro.
The fact is that, threre was an unlegal inveshion from Turkey army 1974 with all you can emagine happens in wars , killing and rapping enything was moving, taking land and hostages ho stiil missing since then
The root of the problem is “enosis”.
North Cuprus is not occupied but freed territory. If Turkey did not intervene in 1974, the TC lady in this video would not have existed as her parents would have been exterminated by EOKA whose only aim was to turn Cyprus into Greek Island.
I am a Greek Cypriot and I can tell you that EOKA was a coup organization that took over Cyprus and Turkey used it as an excuse to invade my country ,΄[
It's certainly free for those who came from mainland Turkey and stole the homes in the North.
Turkey is just like Zionist Israel in this conflict. Yet I'm sure you actually support the Palestinians in that particular conflict.
Yeah pity the litter is also freely available everywhere all over the once beautiful TRNC
bro cyprus is greek island 2000 thousand years
@@pro23creeper Bro Cyprus was never a Greek Island.
Today, 20 July, is the most horrific remembrance day in the history of Cyprus's people and one of the worst days for international law and justice of the mankind. 😢😢😢 NEVER FORGET
what international law you talking about? was killing a peaceful american ambassador part of this law?
@mikewillis6033 are you referring to the USA ambassador in Nicosia in 1974? The most hated American diplomat by CIA (not to mention the State Department). Why this diplomat was not trusted by the CIA and the Department of State? Who had pulled the trigger? And why? Do your research...
From 20 July we got our freedom from oppression. 😊
@ugurosman4870 not exactly. Until 1974 Turkey oppressed only the TC. But since 1974 Turkey has been oppressing both the TC and the GC. So, if you want your freedom you have to unite with the GC and kick Turkey straight on her astra out of Cyprus. Good luck.
@HuseyinArclar-jo1wr if you are scared of the fanatics in the south, please try to imagine how much scared are the Greek Cypriots of the presence of the Turkish army in Cyprus and the intervention and guarantor rights of Turkey. That was one of the main reasons for the GC to reject the Annan Plan. If you combine the Turkish troops in Cyprus with the settlers (who are Citizens of Turkey) and the residuals of TMT you can understand the threat against the GC.
Sude Hanım tehlikenin farkında değil.
Avrupali gibi hissediyormus hanimefendi 😂
@@benjaminjmillberg sorun ne hissettiği değil. Yunanı tanımıyor oluşu.
@@Horusian Anakara Yunanlari ve Kibrisli Yunanlar arasinda cok buyuk bir fark var.
@@benjaminjmillberg Haklısın, anakara yunanları uzakta olduğu için sadece tehdit edebiliyor, Kıbrıs yunanları ise seni banyonda kurşuna dizebiliyor.
@@shinitai-yorum kısmında Rumları fena rahatsız etmişsin. Eyvallah
SUDE...My poor baby... get the Cypriot passport and drink Starbucks coffee. You are Cypriot. Right? The Republic of Cyprus is the state of the Cypriots. Right? Not the state of Greeks. So why they don't give you a passport? Greeks are the most democratic and most modern people of all ages. They never judge people by their religion their ethnicity by their language. Say that you are not responsible for the Turkish invasion. Say that you pray for Apollo and eat Mousaka. They will give you the passport
start fighting
Ah the UK and its long history of creating problems 😔
I feel like the best resolution to this problem is for the people on the whole island to reunite and see their identity as Cypriots as a whole, stop dividing them by Greeks and turks because by doing that they let these countries have influence over them and divide them. No matter whether they are greek or turk ethnicity after all they are Cypriots in the first place. They do not come from either Greece or Turkey, they come from Cyprus and that whole island is their home. It doesn't matter if their culture traditions and religion are different they are all Cypriots which should be the main factor when creating a country. They should take an example from Bulgaria in Bulgaria there's many bulgarian turks, bulgarian Christians, bulgarian Muslims (pomaks) and Bulgarian roma people and they all consider themselves bulgarian and there has never been separatist movements, and everyone try to live peacefully with each other and respect the others traditions, religion, culture.
A bulgarian example come on, they put Turkish speaking Bulgarian citizens in buses and told them you are going to a journey and exported them to Turketçy by force and then these people after Bulgaria ascended to EU had some rights but with this trauma of the past, they continue to live out of Bulgaria and only go to renew their ids. Not a good and ideal example. The only difference in this story is that the Turkish Cypriots stayed on the North part of the country as it is now but this time the Greek Cypriots steal their ids and don't give citizenship to their children if they are married in north Cyprus to Turkey nationals or third country nationals.
@nonamenoname2767 Fun fact the majority of Turkish Cypriots lived in the south predominantly Paphos. They didn't have a presence in the North which was around 90% Greek
The cultures are very similar
Cyprus is.occupied bu UK,Greece and Turkiye,so after all this 3 removes the hand out of the island,maybe a solution can be achieved,otherwise nothing will change.😢it is not fair to call only north as occupied area,also south is an occupied area.
Greek side said "no" to annan's unification plan while Turkish side said "yes". Go figure it out.
facts, turkish cypriots there forgeting their heritage
proof that Turks are the peaceful one
@@guldanhare you dumb ??
Go figure it out why 200000 homes were taken and there expected to say yes. Slow slow people
@@guldanh they want to keep Turkish troops there so maybe not so simple
Unite Cyprus Now !! 🇨🇾🫶🏻🕊️
Yes, with Greece🇬🇷
@@akritasdigenis4831no Unite Cyprus with Cypriots 🇨🇾🕊️
then unite kashmir with pakistan
The division of Cyprus was planned BEFORE the establishment of the Republic (that's why the Agreements provided for "intervention rights" and even BEFORE any conflict between GC and TC. Such conflict was deemed to be necessary. So it was induced artificially from the outside. Tell us something about the "surrounding" environment. For example, the Istanbul polgrom against the Greeks and its link with Cyprus. Or about the following efforts of the external players to divide Cyprus, such as the notorious Acheson Plan. History is not a bedside story. If not complete and filled in with the crucial details it becomes a fake story. Unfortunately for the people of Cyprus and especially the GC who are the most tragic victims of the history of Cyprus, not just today but for every other period of time. Most TC are turkified Greeks of Cyprus during the Ottoman rulling. They are not settlers from Turkey or other Ottoman countries. Do your research. For the non historian layman there is a very informative and objective book on Google free to read. "The bloody truth on Cyprus". Have a look into it. It doesn't harm. Thank you.
Is not about trust between people, this will mean nothing at the end like before, Is all about the countries plans which they have the desire to occupy more land like Turkey. Anyways Cyprus is Greek and it will belong to Greeks, if you don't like it it's your problem
sude's father is from turkey, but sude feels she doesnt belong to turkey, and calls turkey as occupier, let's think about this, you are born to a turkish father you were given a turkish name, you live with turkish people, you go to a turkish university, you speak turkish, you dream in turkish, the world see you as turkish, so called cyprus state see you as turkish and dont give you a passport, and you say you dont feel turkish and want turkish people leave the island. this is either inferiority complex or stupidity.
I cant tell*
Because it’s an occupation ?!… I’m Turk myself but it’s occupied because of massacre
How its a occupation if greeks started to kill people and raid the villages ? You guys effected by greek media too much ?@@guldanh
Yunana gerek yok hayini çok bir milletiz.
@@guldanhur not Türk
So to the 120000turkish cypriots,give back the passport of the cyprus republic,and stay home, forget free travel to 180 country around the world,you can travel to turkey and Africa
Cyprus has the last divided capital in the world. What about al quds aka Jerusalem?
Cyprus is Cypriot! 🇨🇾🕊️
United Federal Cyprus Right Now!!!🤍🕊
United Cyprus🇬🇷🇨🇾
Girl as a bono fide Cypriot get your passport and come south.
UNITE CYPRUS NOW!🇨🇾❤️
Yes, with Greece
@@akritasdigenis4831If Cyprus ever decides to unite with a country, it will most likely be UK.
@@canbaydan Cypriots don't like the UK, they're a big reason why Cyprus is divided
@@akritasdigenis4831 Do you think UK would care this?
@@akritasdigenis4831 It should be like in Belgium, Greek Community and Turkish Community.
Lot of respect to Sude. 🙏
I'm a GC and my father left Varosha is '74. Orestis words represent me 100%. I truly want a reunification solution for all Cypriots but Turkey manage to change so much the demographics with settlers from mainland Turk, that such a solution scares me so much and seems really unviable! Unfortunately we born in a country that others have already made the desicions for us, and growing up is a constant search for identity and internal conflict of each ideology.
So you want but do not dare for a solution, in total you say no to unification federation etc
Derdiniz belli sizin, kıbrıs'ı türklerden arındırmak istiyorsunuz. Ezik sude'yi tebrik etmen de boşa değil tabi ki
Sorry T-Cyp, that we saved your "little" butts from G-Cyp. Next time we'll remember your decision that you are on your own!
Poor sude😢 maybe its s a good thing for you to stay away from southern side that has mcdonalds. If you get fit you can easily find h&m or bershka in turkey btw.
We will always be European, proud to be European. But firstly, I'm proud to be British. Brexit will work. 🇬🇧
As a Pakistani I fully support love and respect Turkey sovereignty and territorial integrity from Pakistan 🙂🇵🇰🇹🇷🥰😍. May Allah SWT bless Turkey and it's beautiful people from Pakistan 🙂🇵🇰🇹🇷🥰😍. Best regards from Pakistan 🙂🇵🇰🇹🇷🥰😍.
Why didn't you make them both meet and form a couple!
As a Greek Cypriot, I would like to congratulate this wonderful woman for seeking what is right for both sides. Long live Cyprus and all true Cypriots. Hopefully I'll be there next year.
all cyprus belongs to turks
@@WarnamentTurkiyeCyprus is a country in the EU. Turkey can't enter the EU without recognizing Cyprus. Cyprus is not Turkey and not Greece.
@@Goldenskies__ cyprus was ruled by turks for 307 years, a greek cyprus is unacceptable
@@WarnamentTurkiye yea keep changing history.
The British did the same thing in India created a country called Pakistan.
The same thing they did in Palestine, every country they left they created a mess. People need to wake up.
Sude is spot on. Well done.
Bruh, she is not even native, that's why she has British accent 😂
Cyprus is inside the border of Asia. It's an asian country under European influence
Geographically speaking, Cyprus is part of the Middle East
@@ArgKaiser no it's not. It's located too far to the west of Asia to be in the middle eastern region.
Cyprus is in Mediterranean sea,like Malta wich is next to afrika, or Greta
@@c.u.c7938it’s off the coast of Levantine states.
I don't believe Sude is a Cypriot Turk. She lies about everything, including never having been to Turkey and the existence of a certain brand in Northern Cyprus. This entire film seems like another propaganda effort. If she hates Northern Cyprus, she has the option to live on the Greek side, get lost!