Escape From Tarkov Developer Just Killed Their Game

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  • @fedos
    @fedos 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +409

    Why would anyone pay $150 to $250 for an advantage when it's so easy to cheat and the devs dont do anything about it?

    • @hanyolo2041
      @hanyolo2041 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Cheats are even more expensive you have to continually pay for them

    • @iguanaassassin9893
      @iguanaassassin9893 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Yea I saw something where people are paying hundreds a month for cheats. Like car payments..

    • @godmode8687
      @godmode8687 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

      That they dont do anything about cheats isnt true. Cheaters are getting banned on mass. Its just the incentive to cheat is incredibly high in this game.
      In CoD if you cheat you have a high KD, whatever. But in tarkov if you cheat you can extract loot. Lots of loot. Thern you can sell this loot to players who dont cheat. For real money. In tarkov its a job to cheat. So if you make 1k per month selling stuff and get banned once a month, and pay a 100 for cheats a month, you still make good money. Especially in poorer regions. Now we have an actual industry for cheats in tarkov. Something few other games have. Simply by the game design.
      Now add to that a deeply flawed terchnical design, which cant be changed without basically redoing the entire game, and we have cheat paradise. With little the devs can do about it

    • @thefinalboss2403
      @thefinalboss2403 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would anyone support a russian company that supports genocide?

    • @squigglesmcjr199
      @squigglesmcjr199 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Hell even if you do get caught cheating the devs run a racket selling new accounts, this is why they are so lax on cheating, it keeps them coming back to buy accounts if they do eventually get caught

  • @Choochinc
    @Choochinc 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +160

    "We are having no financial troubles." 1 line later... "It is too expensive to let people play our game." Stellar.

    • @bernhardlabus8511
      @bernhardlabus8511 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      They just figured out its easy not to have financial troubles if you dont run servers but charge for it anyways.

    • @munchmandrifta
      @munchmandrifta 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Translation:
      Battlestate Games CEO Nikita: I got a lot of money.
      Battlestate Games Studios: We don't have any money, our CEO put it all in his pocket.

    • @donkzy2406
      @donkzy2406 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The funds are going back to the motherland, running out of tanks and ammo

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@donkzy2406exactly reportedly lot of $$ is being funneled into Russian gov to pay for its war

  • @chaosryans
    @chaosryans 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    One correction "they should have access for free"
    nope
    They should have access because they already paid for it. They're having access revoked because they're not paying more.

  • @otterblau5253
    @otterblau5253 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    Man, the big wigs over overwatch 2 must be kicking themselves over their decision to cancel their PvE instead of selling it for over $200

  • @AlwayzFresh
    @AlwayzFresh 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +164

    The entire world, not just gamers, have officially escaped Tarkov.

    • @smirkingspyFO76
      @smirkingspyFO76 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      *ba dum tss*

    • @darkeclipse506
      @darkeclipse506 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      if you knew tarkov's community base, you'd realize everyone plays constantly or always comes back, no one trully leaves because of this game being unique to the point where it's the only game for this itch. If you can name a game like tarkov that isn't the trash cycle frontier, hunt showdown, or grayzone warfare that's moderatly realistic then by all means tell me.

    • @tracks681
      @tracks681 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@darkeclipse506 I play tarkov but calling it realistic is a big stretch av shot people and hit them 16 or 17 times and they have walked away.Arma games are far more realistic just dont think we will find another extraction shooter (not tried grayzone yet like)

    • @michael2026
      @michael2026 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@darkeclipse506I would agree if SPT didn’t exist you can get 85% of the experience of the live game offers with no cheaters and you can change any aspect of the game in any way you want I do not see myself playing the live game ever again it’s just not appealing to play when SPT exists and it’s so easy to set up

    • @b-ranthatway8066
      @b-ranthatway8066 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@darkeclipse506 I actually had genuine fun with Cycle Frontier and was quite disappointed when they decided to cancel it. Got me to stop playing Tarkov for a while.
      In all reality though, I'm kind of done with Tarkov. As an EOD owner myself, I might as well sell my account and make some money back 😂

  • @cartmann94
    @cartmann94 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +208

    The fun thing is that this was the game “The Day Before” scammers were trying to emulate. And now Tarkov aspired to surpass them in scamming.

    • @yespc
      @yespc 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      BSG really called The Day Before devs amateurs

    • @darkeclipse506
      @darkeclipse506 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      the fact you're bringing up devs that actively scammed and comparing them to a work of art that fumbled 1 update because they need more money to fund there game is crazy, not to mention they didin't run and hide, by no means did they run and hide and they did fix the problem. the insults hurt though.

    • @yespc
      @yespc 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@darkeclipse506 ion reading that

    • @abdou.the.heretic
      @abdou.the.heretic 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@darkeclipse506that work of art boosts my 5800x3d to 4.2 GHZ just to get crazy framedrops.

    • @H41030v3rki110ny0u
      @H41030v3rki110ny0u 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      ​@@darkeclipse506sucks being an addict, but we all have our vices

  • @ClearlyNutz
    @ClearlyNutz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    Everyone is talking about "Unheard Edition" costing $250. It does not!
    It's $250 + Fees + 25% taxes. So actual price is around $315

    • @lbmember4637
      @lbmember4637 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah, same with the base game being “50” bucks

    • @maskettaman1488
      @maskettaman1488 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      25% taxes?? That would be insane

    • @matthewjackman8410
      @matthewjackman8410 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@maskettaman1488 They don't eat the cost like every other company does.

    • @maskettaman1488
      @maskettaman1488 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@matthewjackman8410No company eats the taxes. 25% is just a bonkers number to come up with lol

    • @highbred
      @highbred 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maskettaman1488 I had to pay 21% extra on eod

  • @acereporter73
    @acereporter73 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    The "I'm sorry you feel that way" is some intense narcissist sauce!

    • @allRepublicansarepedos
      @allRepublicansarepedos 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The surprising thing here is this was translated once. Do we blame the translators here again, anti woke white trash?

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm sorry you feel that way

  • @Panhammer64
    @Panhammer64 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +190

    general sam once said "this game hates poor people" and as a former player, it's still a painfully true statement.

    • @misterymisterio8778
      @misterymisterio8778 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Poor people and newbies. The worst part of the game is easily the first 15 levels.

    • @ajkulac9895
      @ajkulac9895 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@misterymisterio8778 And casuals.

    • @carljcmjk8609
      @carljcmjk8609 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Not poor people people that has has common fooking sense and refuse to pay that price tag

    • @justinklatt3848
      @justinklatt3848 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😊
      ​@@misterymisterio8778

    • @markbates6610
      @markbates6610 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Poor people cant afford food or are living in a literal war zone. Calm down.

  • @toolittletoolate
    @toolittletoolate 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    Im sick of all these Reddit Lawyers who don't understand you cannot copyright game mechanics. They can't copyright phrases either, they can only trademark them. Like "Apple Inc." is a trademark, not a copyright.

    • @Zack_Wester
      @Zack_Wester 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I mean loading screen minigame is copyrighted.
      so yes on some level you can.
      the problem is that no one have and would dear to try to copyright let say FPS. because they would get just slamed by every other dev/publisher even one that does not make FPS.
      let say Nintendo does not make FPS have never made a FPS ever and will never make a FPS (one of the metro games are FPS so void as a example already but lets pretend).
      they would jump in on that and just smack that bugger for trying to copyright FPS games.
      and the thing is there is really nothing stoping someone from copyrighting FPS.

    • @henryokeeffe5835
      @henryokeeffe5835 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@Zack_Wester That's not how copyright works in most countries. You don't copyright something. If you make it, it is copyrighted by default unless you express otherwise. To "claim" copyright you'd have to open a court case against whoever you think is breaching your copyright. Also copyright is only for written or "artistic" work. "FPS" or "First person shooter" is too short and too obviously a description to claim copyright on.

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​​​@@Zack_Wester
      "the exclusive legal right, given to an originator or an assignee to print, publish, perform, film, or record literary, artistic, or musical material, and to authorize others to do the same."
      The concept of loading screen minigames cannot be copyrighted lol who tried to do that? No concept or genre can be copyrighted, so anyone trying to copyright the concept of FPS would be denied on the face of it because the _concept_ is not an original work. Do you mean the _term_ FPS? Because the term first person shooter has been around for decades and literally anyone could challenge that trademark (phrases cannot be copyrighted.) I don't think they would even have to do it immediately before a trademark is given, they could use it as a defense if the trademark holder tries to go after them.

    • @buggiesindustries7550
      @buggiesindustries7550 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@Zack_Wester loading screen minigames are patented, not copyrighted...
      There's a huge difference!

    • @innocentsmith6091
      @innocentsmith6091 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You can copyright a specific implementation of game rules. I.e. you can't literally copypasta them. You're right but I just thought it was worth clarifying. It's why during the OGL debacle, people were afraid of using the D&D mechanics because it's not clear which words and phrasings are protected even though the rules are conceptually not protected.

  • @orlfane1622
    @orlfane1622 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Refusing to give back the $50 as a refund should be enough for a class action lawsuit. Nobody wants a useless key or coupon. They are flat out stealing from you.

    • @Jabarri74
      @Jabarri74 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree but if you already sunk $150 into a video game, why would you go in for another $100. Especially after them bein caught lying. The best way to avoid being scammed is avoid dodgy people/ practices. The devs of this game for example

  • @drewbienewbie03xx81
    @drewbienewbie03xx81 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    BSG was also notorious for not helping with people locked out of playing the game for various reasons. The most common one is saw was refusing to help with email mistakes by both the consumer and BSG. This would result in the person who purchased the game being SOL and either having to repurchase the game or wait months for a first response from BSG. They want as much money as possible and they're OK with being shady about it bc they know, "Russia".

  • @juances
    @juances 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The scam for those that bought the previous edition is the cherry on top but even ignoring that part of the drama, locking a game mode behind a $250 price tag is insane and more so when part of that functionality has already been replicated by modders.

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    I just cannot get over the price they are asking for....both times, to me the cost is mental and its still in early access as well

    • @starberry22
      @starberry22 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      cant even blame them when there's fools who will pay for it

    • @jaboba69
      @jaboba69 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@starberry22not as many as they were hoping for

    • @starberry22
      @starberry22 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@jaboba69 i hope so

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      To be, fair, such as it is, to the tarkov devs it's not like they have a studio funding them. But the price is hilarious yes.

    • @jamiedavies3810
      @jamiedavies3810 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Like I've said before, if these guys get away with selling this to consumers, other big studios will look at this and think that they can do the same thing.
      Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda, Blizzard. They will try it. Hell, im sire they have done it before. People will riot and call them out. But some people will buy that expensive version of the game. And it will just continue from there.

  • @sinjin8576
    @sinjin8576 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Imagine paying 250$ to explore a boring, empty asset map and then die to a guy using aimbot and wall hacks anyway.
    Lmfao

  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +137

    PR students will study this 😂 great example of how not to handle a controversy

    • @justinwhite2725
      @justinwhite2725 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Bad PR has been happening for over a decade so I don't think the curriculum has been updated.

    • @AllTheSmoke90
      @AllTheSmoke90 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bad PR, good PR all the same. I have no idea about this but has this made mass amount of people uninstall and stop playing the game? Anyone have the numbers? Or are people still playing and are a mass amount of content creators creating content on it for weeks keeping EFT on the forefront of everyones minds?

    • @kantanenakseli8886
      @kantanenakseli8886 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go do your own research​@@AllTheSmoke90

    • @nocturnalverse5739
      @nocturnalverse5739 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I doubt the CEOs will ever learn. They live in a bubble.

    • @99mage99
      @99mage99 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@AllTheSmoke90 It's cute that you think EFT is on the forefront of everyone's mind.

  • @Vibrantclaw
    @Vibrantclaw 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    It makes me really sad the Tarkov players are going from one p2w game to another(greyzone warfare). I really want to believe that gamers will eventually stop falling for these predatory practices but they keep voluntary giving these companies their money time and time again.

    • @TheMissing8
      @TheMissing8 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      People just jump on bandwagons and the Twitch community has now moved to hype Grey Zone.

    • @penedrador
      @penedrador 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least they stay away from my precious PvE / Co-op games.

    • @Mat-ky5gr
      @Mat-ky5gr 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      So long as there’s people willing to pay for EA sport games, there will never be hope lmao

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They aren't gamers, they're p2w gamers. They aren't going to play any other type of game.

  • @Supreme-King
    @Supreme-King 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The "apology" reeks of lawyer corrections.
    Can't have an admission of guilt in case of a lawsuit if there is no actual aknowlwdgment of wrongdoing.

  • @LaserStorm117
    @LaserStorm117 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Idk if I've ever seen a Q&A where every question is longer than the answer. Almost like it refeeds into their philosophy of "we really don't care."

    • @Dommifax
      @Dommifax 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Asmons comparison to the magic 8-ball was pretty on point

    • @LaserStorm117
      @LaserStorm117 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@Dommifax 😂 That does sound like a spot-on comparison, but I think the magic 8-ball might care about you more

    • @seekittycat
      @seekittycat 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think they were trying to be funny and minimize the issues. To be fair if everyone's yelling but forking over 250 then it really really is a joke.

    • @LaserStorm117
      @LaserStorm117 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@seekittycat , well, I don't think that is a good way to "joke" about the situation, and idk how any relatively logical individual could come to that conclusion. I could be wrong, but I sure don't see a valid argument to corroborate that mindset.
      Also, that last bit you said was insinuating that all these people are buying the $250 edition? What about all the completely valid complaints from those that didn't, don't see a price value warranted, or the ones that bought the last expensive version and are told they no longer allowed to get what they paid for? Seems like your _point_ isn't really including everyone, but making it out to be just people that are paying and complaining, to write a false narrative. I could be completely wrong here, but that's what your comment read like to me. Even if your comment was the case, people are allowed to be upset with the price of things they pay for, especially when they're insanely out of touch with reality. You buy anything recently and been like, "wtf is this fucking price?"

    • @ekki1993
      @ekki1993 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@seekittycat What kind of dumb deflect is this? You know that the people yelling and the people paying 250 can be different groups of people, right?

  • @Nurr0
    @Nurr0 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    Time to settle in and hear the story of how Escape from Tarkov 'did a Unity'.

  • @munchmandrifta
    @munchmandrifta 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Battlestate Games: This is not DLC.
    Everyone else on the planet known as Earth: This content your releasing is Downloadable Content... It's DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT... DLC means DownLoadable Content... Even if you wanna get Technical, it's Downloadable Content by all definitions... Battlestate Games, what planet are you from?

    • @GRUMIAM
      @GRUMIAM 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is downloadable, but i would say there is no content so it is just a dl😂

    • @TomJacobW
      @TomJacobW 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      BattleState somewhere-out-in-fucking-galactica, that‘s where they‘re from.

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, they stated that nothing released during alpha is a DLC as the game is not officially released, dunno how the law would see this but i think they probably made sure that they act within legal boundaries before they announced it.

  • @lbmember4637
    @lbmember4637 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The most insane part, that most overlook, is that it’s 250 bucks before taxes. It costs 306 euros for Europeans.

  • @StephenMcGregor1986
    @StephenMcGregor1986 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    51,000+ dislikes vs 5000+ likes on the trailer
    Good

    • @endlessstrata6988
      @endlessstrata6988 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I wonder how much they paid for the 5k likes from bot accounts.

    • @seanpatrick9784
      @seanpatrick9784 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@endlessstrata6988 The likes are from all the people who bought unheard edition

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how are you seeing dislikes as youtube stopped showing them

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nobody cares about dislikes, especially because most of those dislikes are from ppl not even having the game and those who have it & dislike that Unheard edition, will probably still buy it 😂 Tarkov was always ment for a select type of hardcore players who are willing to overpay for any edge they might get in game.

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DerDrecksack87 i disliked the video and i only have standard edition

  • @GalvayraPHX
    @GalvayraPHX 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    You know, you could look at it as they having just admitted they sold something they couldn't provide and KNEW they couldn't. Sounds to me like something something criminal...

  • @Zack_Wester
    @Zack_Wester 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    250 USD for a DLC that dont really contains a lot of stuff.
    remmber when 250 USD would get you a in general a fine crafted statue, an art book, a nice themed box, a Music CD or several, some gimic, some documentations or something like that, several feelies and so on.
    Tarkov a singleplayer mode.

  • @ChristopherAndersonPirate
    @ChristopherAndersonPirate 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The hubris of Nikita baffles me. That guy really lives in his own little reality bubble.

  • @joshuahensley9395
    @joshuahensley9395 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Crypto ad before you video... Like guys I think you might have the wrong crowd.

    • @StephenMcGregor1986
      @StephenMcGregor1986 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      what's an ad

    • @justinwhite2725
      @justinwhite2725 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's like all the marvel movies ads before a video criticizing Disney.

    • @andrewmountford3608
      @andrewmountford3608 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you don’t want TH-cam algorithm adverts; buy Premium

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Iirc kira has said he actually buys / has bought crypto. Make of that what you will.

    • @andrewmountford3608
      @andrewmountford3608 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iamjustkiwi Anyone can buy Cryptocurrency. He’s been very clear on it several times. If you want to speculate in Crypto that’s your choice and your risk. As he’s also said before. I wouldn’t buy any myself as I’m not interested in gambling on highly volatile assets; I haven’t the time or interest to monitor them.

  • @micheljolicoeur6094
    @micheljolicoeur6094 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Exit strategy confirmed. Gets as many players to upgrade as possible before the failure.
    People are already looking into their finances, their booths at game shows have been very extravagant and expensive to the point you would think they were a AAA studio and not an indie. Nikata the COO of BSG is a habitual liar.

  • @scottl9660
    @scottl9660 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Time to join managed democracy, it only requires $40 for armor, bullets, and a almost new super destroyer.
    Become a helldiver today! 😊

  • @matthewh6172
    @matthewh6172 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I have over 4 years playing and loving this game (EOD owner). What happened was an atom bomb on the community. They tried scamming us in December with the Arena release by staggering access, but if you bought a copy, you got access straight away. They also threw Sigma (EvasionGG owner) out of the emissary program this week for speaking up, and didn't even bother telling her. Also another ex-emissary from the UK (Ironfists) today tweeted that he quit his role, and streaming fulltime, due to threats from BSG due to a tweet he put out. This is a disgustingly crap company, and they are getting what they deserve.

    • @thefinalboss2403
      @thefinalboss2403 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you support the russian genocide of Ukrainians just to play a crap game?

  • @TheGamedMind
    @TheGamedMind 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The real joke is, SPT already proves that running Tarkov on a single machine for one player works like a charm. They should just have released it as a single player edition for like 35 buckaroos.

  • @djentleman8116
    @djentleman8116 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    BSG and nikita are a bunch of scumbags. As an EOD owner, I'll never give them another dollar, nor will I ever touch that garbage game again.
    I wholeheartedly welcome any competitors.

    • @jonathanrabcewicz6191
      @jonathanrabcewicz6191 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here. Bought EOD and put 6k+ hours into this game over the years but they just crossed a line I never thought they would.

  • @moriakpotato
    @moriakpotato 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Good on you for not rushing the video and waiting to see how it turns out.

  • @kylecancilla5483
    @kylecancilla5483 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Steam needs a "filter by Russian developer" setting

    • @thefinalboss2403
      @thefinalboss2403 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Filter by "genocide supporters"

    • @djentleman8116
      @djentleman8116 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@thefinalboss2403agreed.

    • @jakospades7184
      @jakospades7184 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The game isn't on steam, but agreed

    • @thefinalboss2403
      @thefinalboss2403 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@jakospades7184 atomic heart is.

    • @markobucevic8991
      @markobucevic8991 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@thefinalboss2403thats racist, besides ukraine is doing the genocide

  • @Macecard
    @Macecard 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Kira branded cereal called Friendos when? I am thinking something similar to Fruit loops.

  • @icantthinkofaname2722
    @icantthinkofaname2722 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    People like to bring up the "don't like it, don't buy it", and this time it was even brought up by the developer himself, but it doesn't work that way. All of this shit is designed to manipulate people into buying stuff they either don't really need or is way overpriced.
    I don't want this to turn into a giga long rant about all the tiring stuff in modern "live service" games like battle passes, timed exclusivity and gambling, so I will just say this is interesting because even though a good old no bullshit DLC is in general one of the fairest monetization options you can have, the devs still managed to fuck this up by, on top of the worse issue of not delivering on their promises, making this P2W and way overpriced to get their hugely invested players to buy in. Imagine you're a Tarkov main with thousands of hours and this game is a huge part of your life. The incentive to buy this shit surely is there, if they have the money.
    There *needs* to be pushback, otherwise this will never end and keep getting worse. Everytime I see people defend this shit or say it doesn't matter it makes me think I'm the insane one, so thanks for your videos on these topics.

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      dont like it dont buy it dont play it and stop talking bout it - plenty of games for you fools to go hate on

  • @NaZtRdAmUs
    @NaZtRdAmUs 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    The people defending this deserve to have this company take all their money.

    • @yuzuchi5381
      @yuzuchi5381 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      lets hope they go broke :D

    • @raphg6319
      @raphg6319 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People who bought from a russian company game are literally a cancer to the society

    • @D0NU75
      @D0NU75 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      they get the game they deserve, that's for sure

    • @jordixboy
      @jordixboy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I dont play this game, but I defend it. I defend free market, every company should be able to do what the want, and consumers decide whats wrong or right with there green little friends. If you dont LIKE what they are doing, dont play the game nor purchase any of there stuff.

    • @henryokeeffe5835
      @henryokeeffe5835 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@jordixboy That works for products that you buy and are yours. Modern games are not that at all. They're a service you buy into. In this case the people upset are people who have already bought, and they ain't getting a refund.

  • @EQUAL1Z3R-FPS
    @EQUAL1Z3R-FPS 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    for a moment there i thought nothing could be higher then Destiny 2 DLCs prices but this just tops that

    • @yuzuchi5381
      @yuzuchi5381 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Destiny is a wild cashgrab and almost a scam .. .but this is even worse :'D

    • @alessandricedric1995
      @alessandricedric1995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@yuzuchi5381as a Destiny player I can only agree

    • @JPROP-vb7sv
      @JPROP-vb7sv 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      DOA 6 is more i.sane than that. It's almost 5k for everything

    • @memesrdreams4854
      @memesrdreams4854 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As a D2 player, I don't mind the DLC prices. Having to pay extra to access the Y2 content that's like, 80% been removed from the game, that's the problem.

  • @grider05
    @grider05 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Holy hell! Increase the scale of your display settings. Need a magnifying glass to read anything.

  • @jesse76th96
    @jesse76th96 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Take a mile, give an inch, wait for applause.
    perfect phrasing for corporations

  • @Tsukigato
    @Tsukigato 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Add a cat/dog DLC to hideout, add rare little military outfits and accessories you can scavenge to dress them up with. BOOM, easy money flow without pay to win and scamming people with this Unheard/PvE nonsense. So difficult.

  • @fatefinger
    @fatefinger 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This is something I would expect Ubisoft to do. And I fully expect them to do.

    • @markbaker4425
      @markbaker4425 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ubisoft dont have to. They have whales to milk.
      Ubi could release all their games for free and still make mad profit off of whales.

  • @Nick-zm2vm
    @Nick-zm2vm 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When a company says "Everything is fine" I just imagine the dog drinking coffee in a burning house meme.

  • @TrippyTheShroom
    @TrippyTheShroom 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I bought the EoD Edition once I finally hit 300 hours and had no intent on stopping. I genuinely find the game enjoyable solo and especially with friends.
    This though? This is beyond bullshit. I think it's a relatively open secret at this point that Tarkov is *never* going to get a full release. BSG are far too slow with updates, too willing to pad time with minor inclusions and far too comfortable with their current scheme to shake things up with an actual full release. By the time all the maps are released, all the planned updates are out, etc, the game will be nearly a decade behind the curve once competitors start creeping in, and they will...they already have. I haven't played for the past two wipes but seeing this... makes me regret being so willing to give them my money in the first place. Greed to the nth degree.

  • @azalea_k
    @azalea_k 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Anticipating the Kira video on this whole debacle. This gon be gud.

  • @fredEVOIX
    @fredEVOIX 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    the real question is why do they need server capacity for an OFFLINE mode, last epoch did it right there's the online app and the offline app, offline is offline local saves the lot

  • @InVinoVeratas
    @InVinoVeratas 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remeber when these game modes or King of the Hill and Elimination style matches used to be ny default included in every multiplayer shooter genere game, now its literally one game representative of one game mode, and has extra content included in later, if you beg with your wallet enough.

  • @keepleft
    @keepleft 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Developers, here's a simple checklist to determine if something is a DLC?
    1. Is it content?
    2. Is it downloadable?
    Yes to both confirms you have a DLC.

  • @HerrSchrodinger
    @HerrSchrodinger 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    BSG accusing others of plagiarizing is hilarious considering the sheer volume of trademarked and copyrighted content they have included in game assets.

  • @classicmicroscopy9398
    @classicmicroscopy9398 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    I don't know how these gaming CEO's get their jobs when it's obvious the only thought their tiny brains can have is "MONEH-MONEEYYY!" 😂

    • @Zantonny
      @Zantonny 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      Because the people that appoint the CEO also think like that

    • @justinm3745
      @justinm3745 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Zantonny I was gonna say this. If they're good at separating people from their cash they pretty much got the gig.

    • @toolittletoolate
      @toolittletoolate 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The people on corporate path burn every company under them while churning out temporary profits that leave the companies destroyed in their wake. But they're not judged on the overall life of a company, only on their time they spent their. They can just claim the person who came after them are the reason it's so messed up even though they're the factual reason it's that way. Just like Presidents and Prime Ministers do in the USA and Canada
      Like when some insane people tried to blame Biden for there being children in ICE camps when it was because of Trump they got there in the first place. Or people blaming Trudeau for building the oil pipe line when Harper is the person who signed the deal and would have cost billions to break the contract.

    • @Argumemnon
      @Argumemnon 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      They're raised and educated with the idea that the only metric is profit.
      That's the culture that's got to change. Money is important but it's not the only thing.

    • @TrippyTheShroom
      @TrippyTheShroom 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      For that exact reason. They see consumers as percentages and quotas, not people.

  • @Caydiem
    @Caydiem 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm 100% positive that interview was conducted with an actual caveman if I look at some of the responses to the questions.

  • @Turbo614
    @Turbo614 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Friendos 10/10

    • @kombatwombat6579
      @kombatwombat6579 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Always friendos, all the time.

  • @Katz2001
    @Katz2001 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know you are 'late' but your coverage of this stuff is what i'm waiting for! Please keep up the great job

  • @UkrNomad
    @UkrNomad 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's easy to understand why they choose to add more pay to win in EOD.
    There is an old video of Nikita CEO of BSG, taking about their first game Contract Wars, it was free to play browser team shooter.
    That there more cheaters there is, the more people willing to donate for better equipment, gun's ect in thinking that paying will help them win.
    So we have tarkov suffering from cheaters where developers most of the time do nothing and ban cheaters in waves when people start leaving game because of the amount of cheaters. Then again do nothing until community starts rebellion.
    And now they add even crazyer pay to win then before. EOD itself was a PayToWin already. You get x2 secure container space, more money, good gun's at start of the wipe. And you already have 0.20 relationship with all trader's, for better understanding other players will need to do from 7 to 12 quest's to progress to lvl 2 of trader's but EOD will need to do 0 quest's for lvl 2. And by the time regular player get to lvl 2 trader's. EOD players will be almost at lvl 3 or at lvl 3 on the way to lvl 4.

    • @BrunoSa96
      @BrunoSa96 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if every eft player would watch that video, bsg would go under the next day.. hopefully leaving the IP up for grabs for the modding community to put together a proper game

  • @valx7586
    @valx7586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I knew somerhing was up at the start where your inventories hard limit was based on how much money you gave them

  • @anon9469
    @anon9469 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    33:00 "So what happens if this obviously bad feature turns out to be bad?"
    "We can just nerf it into the ground. It's not like anyone's ever gotten mad over sudden post-release nerfs, right?"

  • @Seaneey
    @Seaneey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I won't even spend the $50 to buy the base game

  • @Kaihegon
    @Kaihegon 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Man i dont care about any of the games you ever talk about but i enjoy hearing you shit on devs and companies

  • @MikeGaruccio
    @MikeGaruccio 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “We don’t have server capacity” is such a weird thing to hear in 2024. It’s not like back in the early wow days where expanding capacity required buying new hw, negotiating colocation space (or building a data center) and actually building everything out. More servers are a few text file changes away. There are sometimes some limits in terms of architecture like what helldivers ran into but that was orders of magnitude more than the expected traffic and still took them only a few days to fix.

  • @kombatwombat6579
    @kombatwombat6579 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's always good to see people who wait a little for issues to settle before they report. Cheers, Kira.

  • @siubhan2047
    @siubhan2047 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have zero interest whatsoever of playing a PVP shooter rife with hackers. However, I'd gladly pay $25 for a PVE version that I can play solo. You are spot on.

  • @Darkwolfe73
    @Darkwolfe73 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They've just made competition for themselves, "Gray Zone" was just released on Steam, with mixed ratings. The positive reviews make comments like, "At least it doesn't cost $250." When tens of thousands of people flock to a mixed-review game, and highlight Tarkov's issues in their support of said mixed game, you messed up. Bad.

  • @duhmeister
    @duhmeister 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This fiasco finally made me stop playing after 5800 hours.
    There's a hidden perk for Unheard Edition owners and it's a dollop of shit on your upper lip.

  • @tenaar
    @tenaar 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tarkov devs: ahh money printer go brr
    Also them: let's dismantle it & see if we can make it print faster

  • @jamesklee
    @jamesklee 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was waiting for you take on this. I guess killing the golden goose is like the fashionable dev thing to do these days.

  • @cplhobs6045
    @cplhobs6045 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would say for the most part this is the best video of laying out what happened though it does feel like a disservice with you leaving out the most recent Reddit post from BSG going over what is changing for each edition but I’ll give benefit of doubt that you recorded this and uploaded before that happened. I really appreciate your take on this and giving great opinions on this vs a lot of the other content creators like Onepeg that just milked this drama or Noiceguy that just cried and changed his name over this. I would disagree on the DLC though as when I got EOD when anything was mentioned about DLC it was always talking about stuff after the release of the game and talked about the scav life dlc as the example of what to expect. I wouldn’t consider the PvE mode a dlc and would consider it something else as it doesn’t add anything to the base game like a normal DLC would so I can understand where BSG was coming from in not originally adding access to this mode to EOD. I also don’t understand why everyone is calling stuff out as pay to win as I don’t see anything that gives you an advantage over other players in fight. Sure you can pay extra to start with some bonus gear at the start of the wipe but if your shit at this game your just gonna loose that gear to a better player, doesn’t really change the outcome. If you’re already a veteran player and start the wipe with that gear I could see an argument that it also you to snowball your progress faster but at the same time a veteran player would have already been doing that and having some starting gear isn’t going to change that.

  • @grimvisionz91
    @grimvisionz91 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tarkov is like that good friend you used to be cool with but then they started doing meth and all you can do is watch them wither away slowly.

  • @sinnisota2831
    @sinnisota2831 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Tarkov felt shady when it was first released, sadly i don't trust a lot of the eastern bloc developers, seems like so many just making scam games or finding ways to scam, or outright steal from the players. Guess i was right about Tarkov. Never played it and now i never will. P2W, scamming players who paid 150$, preferential matchmaking.

    • @kaminekoch.7465
      @kaminekoch.7465 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't worry, nobody in the ex-eastern bloc trusts Russians either

    • @godmode8687
      @godmode8687 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lets be real here, it was not designed as a scam. They developed the game for a long time, and implemented a lot of new stuff.
      And even for 150€ you had a lot of content, more than you have with Battlefield. And there the best game version also costs 100+.
      And yes while it is strictly speaking pay to win as you do get an advantage, that is so small, its barely relevant.
      But still all that beeing said: trying to sell a dlc as a FeAtuRe is bullshit. And Aldingen more and more paid advantages is also not what anyone wants.

    • @sinnisota2831
      @sinnisota2831 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Not sure how you can be so positive that the devs of Tarkov did not have the intentions of ripping players off. It’s not like they just had an epiphany and decided it was time to scam… so let’s be real here… they have been shady since it first came out on the scene, I don’t play it, but I keep myself updated on a lot of games.

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      BYE FELICIA!!!

    • @godmode8687
      @godmode8687 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sinnisota2831 Sure they are shady. But not in the way that they wanted to scam, but that they are absolute narcissists, striking people who dont agree, banning everyone who is not 100% on their side, like a cult.
      But if you develop a game for like 10 years actively with a lot of new feateres etc, including many of the initially announced features, excluding those that turned out to be technically imposssible as is normal for any early access game, its really not a scam.
      Announcing a great game, selling and then immediately stopping development would be a scam. This here is just a case of a CEO completely out of touch.

  • @Supreme-King
    @Supreme-King 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Imagine paying 3 to 5 times the price of a full game for scraps in a game that's been in beta for over half a decade.

  • @DavyManners
    @DavyManners 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    lol on the bright side, they won’t have to worry about server capacity soon!

  • @undeadreader23
    @undeadreader23 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I considered buying shark cards for GTA online for a while, then I learned this secret - Wait in a public lobby for a while and someone will cheat and give everyone cash, log out, log back in and spend the cash on whatever you want to launder it :) No need for shark cards!

  • @doctorlolchicken7478
    @doctorlolchicken7478 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel players got what they paid for. You support pay-to-win and defend it, expect even more pay-to-win. This is why you don’t support pay-to-win.

  • @cheesesniper473
    @cheesesniper473 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fish reporter: "Why did you decide to sell a 250 dollar expansion pack to your game?"
    Tarkov develo......I mean Mr Krabs: "Money!"

  • @LugftHuronAC
    @LugftHuronAC 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want yall to remember this when someone says “why do game developers deserve raises” and you give some snotty self righteous response about hard work.

  • @khandimahn9687
    @khandimahn9687 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a total slap in the face to the players. I had been thinking of giving Tarkov a try, but not any more. If I was a player, I'd have uninstalled and never look back.

  • @KnakuanaRka
    @KnakuanaRka 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Two hundred and fifty dollars. That says so much in so few words.

  • @originalgaming1663
    @originalgaming1663 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The cherry on top of course is the addition of all of the new p2w garbage that only serves to dumb down your once hardcore mil-sim experience. So they've really fucked their game from all sides.

  • @merphul
    @merphul 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    why is it always so hard to say "we're sorry for what we did" instead of the old "we're sorry you felt bad about what we did."
    the moment I hear that I'm not interested in being gaslit and giving whoever said it the benefit of the doubt.

    • @DotDusk
      @DotDusk 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One has plausible deniability, and the other is an admission of guilt. It is not rocket science.

    • @merphul
      @merphul 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @DotDusk they're not in court, they're trying to do PR damage control.
      It's not ticket science, it's not legal liability, it's trying to assuage paying customers.

    • @merphul
      @merphul 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DotDusk it's not rocket science, it's not even a question of legal liability, it's actually PR damage control.

    • @toast1672
      @toast1672 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its the same reason a lot of companies will give you copy and paste support messages instead of actual help, or not tell you why you were falsely banned. The moment they do that one time, its the expected standard. If they do the bare minimum they not only, do the bare minimum, but also are not liable for anything more either. Its the perfect corpo storm

  • @rebel4466
    @rebel4466 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The EoD thing I see differently. The EoD should have been gone after a couple months. It was a special limited edition for early supporters. That's also where they shit on themselves. If like 1% of customers had EoD, they would still make money selling DLC. Most serious players have it now and nobody would have to pay for any DLC that is ever released. So BSG wouldn't be able to make money selling stuff.

  • @ImpmanPDX
    @ImpmanPDX 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's so crazy that after all this time I just realized. You can mod ARMA 3 to basically play this game for free whenever you want and not only that, but you can set your own rules, assets, etc etc.

  • @StephenMcGregor1986
    @StephenMcGregor1986 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'd expect to get a hand made custom knife with a super steel like Elmax or MagnaCut with that edition

  • @everwake2689
    @everwake2689 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "We're sorry that you're disappointed and stupid, and we pledge to do better with dismissing your concerns in the future."

  • @Sev-TV
    @Sev-TV 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The repeat mention of these "true believers" makes him sound like a cult leader lmao

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LONG LIVE EFT AND NIKITA -- the greatest cult leader to ever develop a game

    • @Lenariet
      @Lenariet 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And now! Back with Ancient Aliens! Ancient Astronauts have always said this pile of poop here looked like the head of an alien! So it shall must be! Amen!

  • @gzenno
    @gzenno 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yah that Gray zone game really got a good launch time put right in their lap. I've seen lots of people playing it and having fun as a tarkov alternative.

  • @Kamau1865
    @Kamau1865 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Totally unrelated to this video, sorry, but I think Kira should do an epic forensic analysis or Star Citizen, from inception to now. There is so much content to go over after so many years of controversies. Such a video, or series or videos, would be Kira's magnum opus.

  • @Jin420
    @Jin420 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good morning Kira & everyone 😊
    Have a fabulous day ❤

  • @grundged
    @grundged 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It gets worse. They just added more pay 2 win. EoD owners can now summon a personal tank out of thin air! Game is pure garbage.

  • @andrewbako9494
    @andrewbako9494 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have a co-worker who is really big into this game has been for a while I almost bought it about a month ago...so glad I avoided this mess!!

  • @skyrim654
    @skyrim654 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I dont regret spending time with my friends in this game. I regret giving BGS the money.

    • @cinchmccoy
      @cinchmccoy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      BYE FELICIA!!!

  • @BigDazzaT
    @BigDazzaT 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Angry rant on point👌. Greed in the game industry is wild at the minute. I think we’re about to witness gamings “eat the rich” moment.

  • @karri-sebastiancalitu4306
    @karri-sebastiancalitu4306 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are cheaper collector's edition game bundles, with statues, art books, and all sort of goods inside, that cost less than this.

  • @y337
    @y337 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At 9:43 I instantly thought of OJ saying “Hello Twitter world!”

  • @veliceligt02
    @veliceligt02 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gray Zone just dropped and its pretty good. I have never played EFT and wont now. It has PVPVE and PVE for $39.99. It's crazy they pulled this just in time to really boost Gray Zone adoption. Woopsie!

    • @IIMiikexDII
      @IIMiikexDII 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That game released like 6 months early to capitalize on BSG's failure. I think it WOULD be good if they waited. Now it's sitting on "mixed" reviews on steam which will make it impossible to achieve the overwhelmingly positive reviews that it would have gotten, a lot of people will refuse to buy it now. I had hopes for that game, but they're fighting an uphill battle now.

  • @zomkino
    @zomkino 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey, just letting you know, the Chronicle of Elyria website is down, did caspian finally pulled the plug and went into hiding ? wondering if you have info on that

  • @Speederzzz
    @Speederzzz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There was a famous Roman legal scholar who described fraud along the lines of "to present one thing but to do another"
    Which is a bit more wide than the legal definition, but I believe it to be closer to the common persons definition.

  • @SuperTyrannical1
    @SuperTyrannical1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Also the server costs are just an excuse. They said they would never do PVE. All they would have had to do is say that they are now doing it but your offline character will be managed client side, maybe even without co-op and people would have been just happy they are getting any kind of PVE TBH. Nobody was expecting PVE at all let alone co-op so even if they just added offline progression ran on the clients PC that would have made a bunch of people happy. Then they could even look into allowing local host co-op too. You would have to get the friend with the best CPU etc to host the lobby but it would still be better than nothing and there would be no server costs for Battlestate to maintain.

    • @endlessstrata6988
      @endlessstrata6988 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Server costs are immaterial. Literally. You could run 1000 instances of a 64 player Quake 2 CTF match with some pretty amazing bot opponents on a modern machine. Complete horseshit excuse.

  • @AZodiacCancer
    @AZodiacCancer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The term DLC is so duvirced from what it originally wqs its insane. People call actual mmo expansions DLC. ESO calls their updates DLC. At this point them bullshitting and saying "Its not dlc" isn't surprising, but they are still full of shit.

  • @thequestline2227
    @thequestline2227 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The cost of the PVE mode is because it's one of the main pay-to-win elements. Progress in gearing and rep are passed from the PVE to PVP. It allows whales to get kit and rep safely, then enter PVP ready to win.

  • @MatthewCEBamber
    @MatthewCEBamber 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you grey zone warfare. Day 2 and it's in a good state ATM. I've been EOD for 7 years now. I don't play anymore but if I ever do I play SPT 👍😁

  • @Rman0712
    @Rman0712 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fact that EOD holders were given access to Arena (a totally separate executable in the BSG launcher) but not this is insanity.

    • @Rman0712
      @Rman0712 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      $150 when a lot of people bought EOD in 2017, would be $190 today.