Becoming immortal | VPRO documentary | 2018
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- Becoming immortal is now at hands reach, thanks to the latest technological innovations. Would you want to become immortal, even if that means preserving your severed head in a cryogenic tank? If aging is considered as a disease, then the cure is immortality. This is not a Black Mirror episode, this is VPRO Backlight: Becoming immortal.
Original title: De Onsterfelijken
Is eternal life reserved only for the rich or the lunatics of the earth? Silicon Valley is fascinated with the concept of overcoming death and rejuvenation. Billions are invested in becoming immortal. The idea is that when aging is considered as a disease, we can also develop a cure for dying and modify the natural lifecycle thanks to age reversing or anti aging therapy.
A tight community of scientists and entrepreneurs from Silicon Valley bear an enormous source of daring capital, like Aubrey de Grey says: ““If you’re not pissing everybody off in this life, then you’re probably not making much of a difference”.
This community is also firmly convinced that our DNA can be cracked in what would becalled: The code of mortality, allowing us all to become immortal.
And if becoming immortal does not happen within their own life span, then it will certainly happen in the following years. Therefore many a millionaire has his own personal cryogenic tank ready for cryopreservation so they can be brought back to life after death. Whether it will be in material form or in the form of a software program (digital immortality) or as nanobots remains to be seen.
Some can not wait that long and use themselves as guinea pigs. All of them hope to become immortal.
The science in the field of life extension is a booming business. The question remains whether everyone can benefit from this groundbreaking knowledge and become immortal.
With: Aubrey de Grey (Scientist), Liz Parrish (Bioviva), Darren Moore (Millionaire) and Kathleen Ann Goonan (Science-fiction writer), Linda Chamberlain (Alcor).
Originally broadcasted by VPRO in 2018.
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My bet for true immortality is something non-biological. Our biological bodies are just too easy to kill for true immortality. If we could make our organs, especially our brains, progressively non biological, we could then transfer over to invulnerable or less vulnerable android bodies (Think the Avatars of the 2045 Initiative) and become immortal that way.
@@suthinscientist9801 PhaQue.My Deity Is Mightier Than Your Deity>
The massive problem with all this is that you need to stop organism or dna from reacting to the enviroment pretty much god like, you use anti biotic bacteria develops resistance, you surround your cell with alot toxic chemicals your cells degenerate get sick and you die of cancer how earth are you going to stop orgamism from stop evolving or reacting that is beyong god like.
I m not saying it can not be done it can be but over a massively long period of time so orgamism adapt and dont react we are already seeing this with the MRNA vaccines.
if we spend 50% of the money spend on defence to longevity we would be immortal next week
hahaha! Probably.
Sick quote, did Plato say that? Haha 😂
Zapper Zapped all devoloped countries have low or declining birth rates. With well being people choose to have less children. There is no reason to think this trend will stop if we live longer and healthier
Funding is key guys, the more money they have the more experiment and research will be done is basic logic ... that's why Aubrey is always looking for investors since tech shouldnt be an issue
Or religion ironically enough.
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First question: who here wants to live forever? Why?
Life as I live it centers around death's inevitability, so I don't even know how to start thinking about immortality/radical life extension. I'm very skeptical about the way these Cybertopia-types discuss this topic (and technology in general), but we shouldn't expect them to be philosophers.
why not? These people have a different approach to life and death, maybe more pragmatic than philosophy, but they sure know their field.
I respect different views on life/death and agree that these people (at least de Grey and the former professor) seem to know their science. I'm just cautious of how today's techno-evangelists view themselves as crusaders. They hail their own innovations as revolutionary in the best sense without pausing to acknowledge potential downsides. Like with social media, for example.
But what I am to do? I agree that if you're not pissing anybody off you're not accomplishing much of societal significance. I don't enjoy being that naysayer.
The cryo thing apart from being a rip-off (since it doesn't really work) it also highlights another entire issue with this immortality stuff: we live in capitalism, which means that even if we find a "cure" for old age, it wont be a right but a privilege for the wealthy, creating an even bigger rift between the haves and the have nots, now creating a class of wealthy immortals and a class of expendables.
But even disregarding how capitalism affects this issue, there is also a socio-political one. Lets say anyone who wants to become ageless will simply get it, then how will the world cope with the population bomb which would follow if everything else is kept as it is? Namely if the now immortal people are also allowed to have as many offspring as they wish, while very few people dying (due to fatal accidents), in that case it seems to me, overpopulation and resource depletion does become a major issue (unless opting in would also have the condition of opting out of having kids - but that also has consequences).
So it stands to reason, that governments would not want such a problem on their hands, hence such a breakthrough would probably be kept undisclosed and reserved for "important people" only (that is for those with lots of money or who are seen as assets like prodigies and geniuses - coupled with plastic surgery and new identity papers), thus I think its wishful thinking from the part of an average citizen to think that they are going to get an "immortality pill" anytime soon.
I would like to live forever. I like stay forever as a 20 year old forever though for I can still enjoy myself without having any heartbreaks.
I'm a big supporter of life extension. Aging causes a huge number of medical complications, from cancers to dementia, loss of muscle and bone function. A horrible way to go.
@Damian Furrer I would prefer not to
With the current rate of population growth,in the year 2600,the planet will be covered with people standing shoulder to shoulder. End aging and that will happen by next year. We'll all be starving to death within weeks.
In the wisest words of a friend of mine: "Just Let us die!!!!" LOL LOL LOL LOL
I don't see that happening due to the strong survive and the lack of food for that type of population is not sustainable and folks would drop like flies...
mckrackin5324 this comment shows that you absolutely dont understand anything. The rate of technology that will make our foods and buildings will grow much faster then the population,and secondly why would you cure cancer?this will also cause over population?you first cure cancer and then think how to get over the problem of over papulation and not vise versa you dumb ass.
Well you goona live for many years the amount of birth will decriese dramatically and just for you to know 99% of land is not used.
I would definitely love to live forever ..
Do not be so selfish: Make way for future human beings to take your place on this planet!
@Idk ___ My man😂😂
Me too
A lot of people want to live much longer but they don't know what to do on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
Those people are already frozen.
Best comment of rye year. Live forever to worship a phone
No one's gonna mention how great Liz Parrish looks?!?
Little confused when the interviewer constantly feels the need to question the folks trying out experimental drugs. Are we not past the point of understanding that nobody wants to die? These people are pioneers for a dream. It really is annoying to see people having to explain that they are taking a drug because they want to be younger. Who the hell does not? You want to be 90 year old, decrepit and die?
We actually had a discussion about this in our team. Some of us wanted to die, some wanted to be immortal. There are different approaches to this!
As it is now, we all die. So that wish is currently granted. Most healthy folks do not want to die. Sure, there are people with crippling diseases, in prolonged comas or that have some form of terrible struggle that would not want to continue on. Those situations are understood and there is nothing stopping one from going down that path. It just seems odd to question people doing things in an attempt to not die as in a way that is unreasonable or taboo. Exercise, eating right, sleep, meditation, medications are all things to help stall the current inevitable. Do we question the reasonable nature of those?
There is nothing odd wanting to stay around forever. If one feels differently about it they are certainly entitled to do so.
So I am sorry for my frustration. I just find that approaching the subject as "taboo" as an impediment towards fostering momentum for change. To me it is short sighted knowing that we have mega industries aimed at preserving life but yet when folks step outside the box and start experimenting and/or thinking differently about conventional approaches that they are in some way unrealistic or fanciful. It destroys momentum. No offense intended since I know we are all coming from a different perspective. Change takes time.
Grandfather_Din_Racket
You are what's wrong with the world and exactly why selfishness should not drive the search for immortality.
Coercion? Like firing people who disagree with you or telling them to kill themselves? For the record,I think immortality is the worst idea ever and would only lead to a fascist world and suffering,starvation and whole host of other problems... like no more children in the world...ever.
Reading that literally made me dumber. Thanks for that. Do YOU even remember what point you were trying to make? It started with you saying people with the wrong opinion should lose their jobs or be told to kill themselves and be given the tools to do it.
If nobody dies,the Earth would run out of resources in a year. In 50 years,people would literally carpet the planet. Shoulder to shoulder covering every square inch of the Earth. Obviously,starvation would come first. Unless the government steps in and controls the population by force.
If they cured and reversed aging,that would be 37 million people that should have died in the first year,and didn't. And since everybody would be young again,that's BILLIONS of people having babies that shouldn't. You see,people don't stop having babies because they die. They stop having babies because they get too old. What happens when nobody is too old? Babies happen. They happen by the billions. By the trillions in a couple decades.
It’s not immortallity, it’s delaying death indefinitely.
Also I love how they are freezing people down in the «desert».
I don't think you know the difference between immortality and invincibility. Next, deserts become some of the coldest places on earth. In fact, the Arctic and antarctic are deserts.
Bofnar Boland Cryo institutes are probably being set up in barren/remote areas as a protection against nuclear war. Not many governments would target a desert for heavy bombardment.
@@cardcounter21
1000 nuclear tests were done in the Nevada desert.
@@MicroTechForms yep its called biological immortality.
Finally a new documentary. The quality of these are insane.
And you haven't seen all of it yet! :D Thank you!
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I would love to see 3 documentaries.
First one on nanotechnology (and its effects on economics, health and the possibility of these "engines of creation" which is a book by Eric Drexler the father of nanotechnology).
Second one about Neurotechnology (the effects that true VR, A.I. and instant matrix like learning would have on humanity (we need a word for this)).
Third about the future of cell agriculture and robotics in food and the democratization of this technology (this also needs a word).
You are probably already producing these documentaries but it does not hurt to ask right?
it's really good that you ask. We take note. No promises. :p
vpro documentary I appreciate that you willing to listen/read to/what a random dude is saying/typing on the internet. The acknowledgement of my existence is good enough.
hahaha! We are not making the documentaries for ourselves, you know? It's important for us to know more about our public.
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Sounds like a modern day movie of Pet Semetary.
Best part of this documentary was Linda Chamberlin explaining she wanted nano-bots as her body type, not the biological bag of meat we live in now. I also want to go skiing on Mars one day too Linda. What a fantastic idea I never knew I wanted to try as well lmao.
Lmao.. 😅 I think that's kinda impossible. That's why we need God to achieve that without having a nanobot body since God controls everything and can protect us from anything.
But our sins deprive us from it. So, we die as the consequence.
But nonetheless, if we can imagine it.. I believe that there's always a way to achieve it. 👌 this life is incredible cause of it.. we don't clearly know what things can and cannot exist with certain. We just know what's available for us to understand at the moment.
The Iife extension movement needs an Elon Musk. While all of the players I have seen do bring a lot to the table -we need someone with similar vision, charisma, resources and know how with this as their mission.
So he could launch cryotanks in space? ;)
Elon not a believer. I once seen him answer a question on this. His answer was that life spans are fixed. I was kinda shocked hopefully he changes his opinion.
Mostly resources and public relations...
drew4021 Elon musk himself should invest in this it is a big deal for space exploration and his own life
Leon Musk is a paranoid drug addict who lives in a video game, I cant wait for him to go to Mars and make himself useful, finally. 😣😣😣
Sign me up for all of this. Getting old sucks
Everything was good until the insurance companies will come in to play..
Not all insurance - health insurance. They'd need to adapt to some other kind of insurance.
Its gonna be weird having people who are hundreds of years old looking the same as someone who is 20 years old. As a young person first going to a bar when they turned 21 you would walk in, see someone who looks like its their first time at a bar too and then talk to them to find out they have great-great-great-great-grandchildren
In 200 years time it will be weird for 21 year old's to imagine a world where this is not an everyday situation; the same way we might think it is weird today that people in 1850 believed disease was spread by miasma . History laughs at us all.
If thats the case then getting young hot strange will be easy lol
grahamyodude And the original 21 year old will have no chance over you, in terms of a relationship as he can't compete with someone who has centuries old maturity.
Well talking to people is the way to really know them. I think that kind of knowledge will make some older people quite desirable and others unbearable.
@@afterthedrjay is this why young girls like older men?
You should have interviewed some more scientists.
It's true that the topic is so interesting that we could have pushed deeper into the scientific aspect of life extension. But choices have to be made, and the director presented his vision of the topic.
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Ya, most of the documentry was emotional discussion in the favor of immortality.
I dislike your comment so that you can build some character it's not personal I just think it it you know
Most scientists would have said this is impossible.
@@thunderdeed1 That's because most scientists aren't experts in biogerontology.
What this people don't understand is, the cost of Intestine Transplant: $1,206,000, the cost of Heart-Lung Transplant: $1,148,400., the cost of Heart Transplant: $997,700 right? can you imagine how much it will cost for CRYOGENICS rival? (if it's possible in the future) now you only paid for the CRYOGENICS and you didn't pay for the rival of your body. Let's say in the future about 100 years from now where it's possible for them to revive your body they will not do it to you since you haven't paid for the revival of your body which the cost is likely be more expensive than the most expensive medical op right now.
Your soul is eternal and the world is an amusement park, your life is your roller coaster. In the scope of eternity, do you really want just one ride?
Exactly. We don't remember our past lives, but we are forever.
aubrey inherited 16 million. not billion
I heard million
Aubrey de Grey, Biomedical gerontologist, Chief Science Officer of SENS Foundation.
Answered Nov 28, 2016
As of now my net worth is around $2M, of which only a small minority is in any way disposable. I inherited about $16.5M from my mother in 2001, of which I donated about $13M to SENS Research Foundation (or more precisely to our UK affiliate). Of the remainder, on which inheritance tax was payable so it was reduced to about $2M, I spent the majority on the house where I now live, in the Santa Cruz mountains.
@@Adamorevo
Is this really your account?
I feel like this buisness is a sham i dont know of anyone currently working on any technology that is capable of A) resurrecting a frozen dead person B) Repair the long dead brain that holds our memories and consciousness. C) Reversing age. By the time we figure out how to do any 1 of those things whos to say they are going to use your "patients" as test subjects for free? or is your organization funding the cost of treatment at that point? As of right now your best bet is to clone someone although they will live a very short life and will not be the same person at all . The way i see it the company is offering a 200,000 dollar frozen coffin and thats about it.
I definitely didn't watch the entire video, but I started to hear the same run-around answer structure, like one person wrote all of the dialogue. Another thing I noticed, or rather a few things, were all these subtleties that were sort of subliminal messaging.
But once I heard the elder lady talk about the nanobot swarm immediately after introducing the ex-professor "science fiction" writer, and then the waiter at the diner asking if it's a documentary today but no, it's about, "science fiction and life extension", and that's when I realized exactly what's going on.
Although I must say, the video is incredibly well made, considering. I'm ashamed to admit I've now watched the whole video while typing. Red flags were everywhere. I'm a skeptic to the core, but a curious one, for sure.
Edit: I may not know *exactly* what's going on, but I've got a pretty good idea that I'd be willing to bet was close.
deep long long sigh.....yes.....I am forced to agree..and that is a highly educated decision...unlike most people here discussing this, I have a far far deeper understanding of what is needed. Let's dive in to just ONE aspect, one of many, but still, a major one. We are, essentially, contained in the intricate states of each neuron in our brains..over 100 billion of them, connected in ways so complex that, oh to hell with it, each neuron can be connected up to another 100 neurons, that's one hell of an architecture just there, but more than that, what about the internal state of each neuron ! think about the state of each nucleolus with the nucleus, what proteins are active and encoding for what structures, all the damage to the micro-tubules, the the tubulin, the endoplasmic reticulum, golgi bodies, etc etc, the cell membrane potentials, the chemo-receptors, the neurotransmitters present at the point of last conscious thought, the list goes on, and and on, frankly, you'd need a super computer like nothing that has ever been built yet with a memory capacity that is absurd and that's just to replicate ONE neuron, in a healthy vegetative state, let alone the interplay between billions of them.and then there's how to fix all this damage, imagine the research needed to arrive at the kind of biochemistry required to do all this, the reaction mechanism's to reverse multitudes of degraded chemical pathways ! it would be a new avenue of chemistry all together ! I'd argue that nobody in this conversation has the slightest clue as to the depth of knowledge and the discipline required to do this, it is so far beyond us, this is not likely until we are truly omnipotent beings, probably tens of thousands of years away, and by then, this issue wouldn't exist, because it is far simpler to keep a living organism alive than it is to fix a dead one ! The best bet, for this approach, would be to be frozen BEFORE death..but it can't be done like these guys are doing it ! their process introduces micro crystalisation, water molecules in the bodies cells, form ice crystals that effectively slice up cell membranes and do untold damage ! some creatures have already evolved ways to prevent this, biological antifreeze, some fish survive in minus ten degrees water, without injury, the water doesn't freeze because of the salt content, we could start there...a form of stasis, lowered metabolism for suspended animation...a lot of these people have gone in with blind hope, if i had the money, I'd be doing it quite different !
@@psycronizer I was going to reply with something, but as I typed it out, I hit a major flaw in one of my own assumptions. People think I'm crazy when I talk to myself. But it's just to make sure that the info inside my head is correct for when I dispense the info at a later date.
But yes, I agree. I had nothing else to add, except fun and humor.
Alcor sure does appear to be based on too many "ifs" to be be feasible. Meanwhile the company is making moolah.
yeah..that's always been a thing though, people parting with their cash not knowing bugger all about WHY, HOW, WHAT etc ..the gritty details....
I'm 40 years old I've been dreaming of living forever for as long as I can remember and I would gladly offer to be the first subject
That's awesome! Deaths arguments are really really religious and bad, but I do hope you get to live.
@@DomainAspect lol thank you and only when someone is close minded does that make any arguments bad
Same here as, I long as i can be 114 years old chronologically, and 23 years old biologically.
I watched a similar documentary the other day , and a woman was brought back from being frozen but she has mad problems now , and has a expect day to pass away because of these issues.
Leave what the most high made and just be happy with what you have.
Vpro, why you would make these and give them to the general public to watch for free I don't know, but I want to say thank you to you guys, because these are amazing and so are you.
We must be crazy. Thank you for your great comment, we're keeping it in "the" box. :)
We hope to see you again on our channel!
Why did 1969 hippy era was born, Law of business #2 "companies that advertise need the advertisement" maybe iPOs have something to do with it in Japan.
$5,000 to freeze a dog,, or only the head?/ gimme a freaggin break! I survived being in a diabetic coma in 1974 I was 19 and thought I'd be lucky to hit 30. I'm 60)+
proud of u brother
How long were you asleep for
That's crazy dude also good news
@@rakijr9176 scientist s r jokes
Would you like a lolly pop? 😂
Accepting immortality is the first step fellow humans.....
the most sensible comment was from the lady of the bar.It says if God made us capable of achieving immortality, so let it be.i love her
Listening to the people at the cryonics lab talk about this science reminds me of a religious person speaking about their religious faith. Both say they will be reunited with their loved ones someday. Don't get me wrong these people are amazing and this is not a bad thing at all, it's just seems interesting that they put faith in science and plan to use cryonics to hopefully bring us back someday. And they spend tons of money on this. Of course they know more then i do about the science behind this and i don't underestimating them. In fact i support this even if i don't understand it.
Then there are the religious people having faith in Jesus or Mohamed and a religious after life (let's be real, religious believe is dependent on what side of the planet you were born). Just as before I don't underestimate the the religious at all because only those with religious faith know & understand their own inner miracles and experiance. And just like the cryonics people, religious people also spend a ton of money on their church, missions, etc.
Goes to show that "faith" (whether it's faith in science or faith in religion) is not a bad thing (unless it's gets judgy and preachy). But they're both coming from the same place: a love for living, loving our loved ones and missing each other (and our pets). It's kind of sad and beautiful.
Explains what drives man kind: LOVE.
Yeah love & passion are the fuel to most all logical systems and most of everything we do.
Geeezzz.... i sound like a hippy. LOL!
It is a beautiful (hippy) comment. Thank you for it.
Cryonics is an action of Pascal's Wager. You have got nothing to lose, whereas in religion you can't choose believing something or getting convinced of something. That is an involuntary action that's why you can't do it. Whereas in cryonics you can take an action. That's the difference and I think it is logically sound.
What the fuck are you going on about man?
There is a big difference between religious faith and trust(not faith) in science one is based on no evidence whatsoever "blind faith" religion and other is based on empirical knowledge of the world ever improving and gathering new data - science
Beautiful.
great doc thanks
Thank you for watching!
these people doesn`t have unterstanding life and purpose. Your body dies, your soul lives ahead. Your lifetime is always given, if you born.
These people who imagine arguments against it...why not just try it and if for whatever reason you don't like it you can then choose to die.
I just want to have my brain live forever that way I can be like Ghost in the shell
We will be waiting for this for long time.
Extremely well done! Thank you. Will share and subscribe.
Thank you Karen, we appreciate it!
Dude looks way older than 54 (beard guy.) 60-70. Sunblock!
oh he s a rite old darling fair play 🤣
I just turned 54 and look 30-years younger myself. God decides how we age. Man has no input. Except man ages faster from drug addiction and alcoholism, etc.
@@Tennessee4Jesus, lol
He looks older every year
we're already eternal
Wow! Life extension and rejuvenation really works: This lady (Liz Parrish) just looks gorgeous with her 97 years of age! [16:18].
Can you give us a tracklist of the music included in this documentary? I would LOVE to hear more of it! Thank you
What ever you want to call it. I call him, Yaveh, the greatest scientist. It created the laws in and around us that will help us humans discover the key to defeat death
Bring the cure of aging on. 🎩
There's an absolute difference between preservation & immortality. Gimmie a break🤣
RAIN HAVOK did you even watch it past 3 mins
@@blahbee7223 nope she is too dumb to do that
Transplant young organ
@@sericsheon2057 no u don't need to watch this is the dumbest thing any human can ever do
Biological immortality is what they mean
I would love to live forever, and be biologically 23 forever.
Vpro is my new favourite channel.. i loved the one on remewable energy and vertical farming... gives me new hope for the future
1 Corinthians 15,42,44.So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable,it is sown in dishonor,it is raised in glory,it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power,it is sown a natural body,it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body,there is also a spiritual body.
I believe we would be rather fortunate to receive this technology.
We could avoid death until Christ's return.
We're nowhere near the Earth's carrying capacity even without technological advancement. The problem is improper distribution of resources and capital.
The capital and resources are distributed mostly to the ones who are successful and smart. You've got a problem with that? Then move your bitch ass to north korea.
More a matter of a small percentage, choosing to exchange the material, for the spiritual...
You got it the other way around, people are healthy successful and smart when they have enough resources to being so.
If you cannot afford healthcare and/or have to spend most of your time working it's hard to live a fulfilling life since you have to focus on your lower needs (look up the hierarchy of needs).
just think about the ocean and megastructers
There are still places in the United States that may have never have had people venture into. There are also HUGE tracks of land that are not populated by humans. People gather to cities and the size of most large cities are tiny compared to the amount of uninhabited land we have. Now add in the posibility of underwater habitats and we have A LOT of planet left to populate. If we manage our resources properly then we could have a planet with 10x the population. For an idea of how much unpopulated land exists in the USA alone see this theconcourse.deadspin.com/nobody-lives-here-a-beautiful-map-of-uninhabited-ame-1564430333
i clicked on this because i thought vermin supreme was in the thumbnail. i vote him for president
Just wonderful reportage,
all these researches that will lead in solving the medical failures caused by the incurable diseases, today are more than welcome. Congratulations to Liz Parrish and the entire viewing team and also to Darren Moore for his courage
Lol they're preserving heads. Grandma was watching to much of Futurama.
Where do you think futurama came from, them heads have been frozen for over two decades now.
xD
1booman1 bodies can be grown right now. They can easily clone a human even and may have even already done it. You won’t hear about it in the mainstream media. There are a lot of secret laboratories that are dealing with all this stuff as we speak. The super rich will be the ones to benefit from it though. Not everyone can be allowed to live forever. At least not on earth. We would have to colonize other planets
This comment is brilliant
43:28📺
The most honest and truest statement I have heard on the Internet.
That's always been acknowledged in the longevity world. They coined a phrase, "biological immortality", meaning that you don't age, but you could still die if you were run over by a bus or shot with a Glock Semi-Auto. (or got a bad infection or weird disease, for that matter) The expectation, as techniques improve, is that first you will stay healthy longer, but still die at an age that is within the human experience, say 90-120. Later, with further improvement in technology, lifespans would be pushed farther out. A couple promising treatments have a lot of venture money behind them, so the process is beginning.
@@incognitotorpedo42 yeah but I still perfer duplication of iPOs vs gene therapy. I believe that is where the rest of the planet will be.
it is all about ending previsibility of death, or, "deaths by natural causes". This will be done, inevitably. Again. Infinite times. Question is: will we get it too? We are having our shot
Very interesting documentary!
Interesting documentary, thanks
Who want to be erase from this world forever?
I believe in the simulation theory they havent had any solid evidence yet or they haven't really been able to test their theory yet but it is pretty weird how the laws that governs our universe is based around mathematical principles lol you should check it out it kinda makes you question reality we're probably highly intelligent human beings that evolved and this life is ancient history lmao in saying that though I know a few people who don't wanna live forever I wouldn't I wouldn't mind living for longer like a thousand years or so but not forever lol
❤
Not me
I died in hospital in 1981.
washington state. and crossed over in to heaven.
it was so awsome to get to be in heaven. it reminds me of switzerland Alps.
Must of been on drugs.
I definitely support the idea to live forever. Who else wants ? 💥💥💥
This technology would put the entire current medical world out of business , it’s for that reason we won’t see this becoming available anytime soon for everyone
Oh yeah it will, let's not forget those doctors are still more educated then most, they will simply move on to advertise new and better features like wings, extra two arms, horses legs etc., and let's not forget chip integrations. Competition is fierce or as the hood would say "it's rough out there" 😆
good intro guys!
Sweet.
Richard Heart I've been involved in C60 self research! What's your take on reviewing the scientific scoop?
Bitter actually, the woes we will create if imorallity ever becomes areallity will be more bitter than any sweetness life extension couold bring
No actually.
Summary of pro death arguments
**Fairness**
Only rich people will get it. (no tech has ever done this.)
Better to give money to the poor than science. (family,city,state,nation, has proven local investment beats foreign.)
**Bad for society**
Dead people make more room for new, other people. (consider going first.)
Run out of resources (live people discover/extract/renew better than dead or nonexistant)
Overpopulation (colonize the seas, solar system, or have a war.)
Stop having kids
Worse wars (nukes are more dangerous than having your first 220 year old person in 2136)
Dictators never die (they die all the time and rarely of age)
**Bad for individual**
You'll get bored. (your memory isn't that good, or your boredom isn't age related)
You'll have to watch your loved ones die. (so you prefer they watch you?)
You'll live forever in a terrible state. (longevity requires robustness.)
Against gods will (not if he disallows suicide, then it is required.)
Love ya Richard!
Nice documentry
We are all immortal.
Please does anyone know the title of the initial and end song ( by a choir of boys). It is a beautiful song !
Thank you in advance, and of course thank you for such an interesting documentary.
Sad...So attached and stuck to this dense material world of illusion....thinking it's the only reality of experience.
It's the only reality that we know exists.
Christina M - Not a proclamation you can make for everyone!
@@briobarb8525 Unless you have scientific proof otherwise, then yes I can.
Think how they feel getting stuck in limbo
How can I use science to measure something it cannot measure - scientism is a religion of this realm, very limiting and sad
I want to live long enough to earn enough money to live where that author, Mrs. Goonan lives! That place is gorgeous!
ur beautiful
Very well presented Documentaries.
Okay... this is soo freaking cool!!🤙🏽🤙🏽
very cool....even chill....
One common thread, all these people have a lot of money. I think these people are batshit crazy.
you may be right...a fair few of these people didn't get their wealth through being very intelligent, just circumstances...but, there is still a CHANCE they may come back, but there's still some serious hurdles to overcome, science issues like the fact that all those cells in those bodies are buggered...totally WRECKED by microscopic ice crystals that slice up the cell membranes when they slowly freeze, now how the hell do you repair THAT ?! you can't. not even a army of nano bots could fix that, the only way is cloning a new body, but good luck getting your thoughts out of your dead damaged brain and into your new body...that's technology that is way, way waaaay ahead of us..or not at all...maybe a digital scanner that can scan brain cells down to the molecule and represent it in some artificial way..hardly what I'd call living though, or even if it'd be sentient , self aware...we all talk of being transferred to the synthetic, but I really wonder if the human mind could cope with that adjustment, I doubt it. We'd still long to be human again, to touch, run,walk, feel, screw etc etc, oh, and eat and drink beer....lifes greatest gift...beer....
Excellent choix de sujet.
Merci Cybair!
joie de vi·vre aussi.
Humans can now create celestial bodies such as black holes in labs.
I think humans should try to become immortal and escape into a human-made universe where nature has rules.
Old comment, I know, but I fear the universe's natural laws prevent us from escaping an eventual fate.
As far as we know, we cannot create matter, and our energy is limited.
We do, however, have much time to enjoy ourselves, or even, progeny the laws of physics flawed.. but that would be optimistic...
"Entropy will always win" pretty much sums this all up. I like that guy. I feel extending consciousness indefinitely will present a whole load of psychological problems.
Those that look for problems will find them, this is a balance of man and woman, this is why without woman's complaint a garbage is never taken out, and once all of the stuff around the house is done she sticks her nose to the neighbors, hence term keeping up with the Jones's. Once caught up celebrations and innovations take place and the race is on again. No one can stop progress, slow it down yes. This is why I have a firm believe in neutral nations around the world, because in the end it's all about making it home safe and not purposely killing in the name of war.
Great documentary! Liz Parrish always gives a great interview and the info from Aubrey and Darren was vert interesting also! Ray Kurzweil was quoted in the new "Rejuvenation Research" by Oliver Zolman as saying he stopped aging for himself last year so I would say this article ("Lonegevity Escape Velocity...") is deserving of follow up! Some of us are 73 or older gang so I'm hoping Ray is right and would sure like to know what he thinks is working that well! Hopefully we can figure out how to simplify things from his 150 or however many supplements he is taking!
It's nice to read your enthusiasm over this topic. If it was accessible, would you use anti-aging therapy?
I hereby volunteer for any trials that may extend my life
how many emails have you received?
@@jsea8987 he might be inside a vault right now this is why hes not replying.
That's his frozen head in a coma. 😆
What do i need to study to research on immortality? Pls help
I HAVE A EASIER WAY , BUT TRUST ME BE SURE YOU WANT THIS , ITS NOT ALL FUN .....
Eyes on Jesus with him we have eternal life...💜...He is Risen✝️
YesYes! Thank you!
❤
Still believe in this liars fairy tales?
This channel is amazing, but us brazilian need subtitles in português. Please for more views add more subtitles, no just in português but in others languages. Thx for this amazing quality, I loved this channel.
Hello TOOTHLION and thank you for your comment.
We are currently starting with German subtitles, on top of the English, French and Spanish existing subtitles.
Unfortunately, we are not planning to subtitle ouor documentaries in Portuguese yet.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
thanks for your documentary vpro 10/10
Thanks for watching Dean. We're glad we passed!
outstanding production
The physicist Barbara Brennan wrote a book called "Hands of Light" published in 1987 In this book are many pictures of what we look like as eternal energy beings out of these bodies She writes that we are eternal energy and light beings or holograms right now Quantum physics says that we are electrical magnetic energy field vibrations right now In the book "The Quantum World" written by the physicist Kenneth Ford are these words---'magically bursting forth are quarks spinning billions of times a second as 3 points of light forming protons and neutrons' We are as eternal as the sun because the sun's light photons are constantly changing places with the quarks, electrons and protons that are our atoms
'In an atomic nucleus, a proton is made up of two up quarks and one down quark, and a neutron is composed of one up quark and two down quarks. The force that binds three quarks in a proton or a neutron is called the strong force, and this force is due to exchanges of gluons.
An atomic nucleus constitutes an atom together with electrons orbiting around it. The relation between the nucleus and electrons resembles the one between the sun and planets in the solar system.
The nucleus and the electrons are attracted to each other, exchanging photons. The force between the nucleus and electrons is the electromagnetic force.'
When are all of you going to read another book? I knew that there was no such thing as death when I was a child
if conscience can be digitalized I´m in for it!!!
you don't want to.
why it still wont be you but a copy,,you wont even know if your conscientiousness digitized is active or not,sleeping or awake it wont be you bozo.
@@odincoulombe706 oh they will find a quantum way to say it's a real sentient electric organism. Lol
its like saying let me take a movie of your life and play it over and over,and you are immortal, you yourself wont be the living thing,if they could take your soul and put it in a cloned body that would work,,but i think god may take offense to it,,ALL MEN MUST DIE AT SOME POINT IN TIME,and its good natural and the way of the universe deal with it men.....@@oleghurmak9911
@@odincoulombe706 look, God gave a man a choice free will, it was a risk, this is what Satan saw and decided to take his own chance. Now, that being said God will never get angry even if Satan has all off men he will simply prove God that his creation is fundamentally flawed and demand to be by his side again as his top angel and God will do it all over again. Why? Because when I meet him I am going to tell him to tell you himself in your dream, if you want to know. Now, you can't copy a soul, imagine looking at your clone, people think that it will all be fine and dandy, you will have too upload you memories too, yet the new brain is going to be clean therefore making different decisions, acting different, so after all is mastered to a T, people won't care if there is a soul there or not, to master it to that quality will leave a print, therefore, will be identified.
We are so far off. Ray kurzweil talks about exponential growth, that is the only hope him being right. So we would need complete understanding of our biology. If this is to happen other things would have to happen first. Like cripples walking, the blind seeing. Also cancer cured. None of this is possible yet. But I think for the first time in history, it's conceivable.
Scientists.. All over world.. Please do something really quick regarding aging..🙏 It's a humble request..
i hope he succeeds and that this tech and info does not go to elites only.
The rich need the poor to normalize it, otherwise the trend of purity will emerge and that will drive them into metal institutions.😂
Don't call em elites, parakeet
@@kidel3960 I agree, popularity standards is what makes their positions, like wanksters, the wannabe gangsters. 😂😂😂
I thought we spend money to give comfort to our self as we age, not to prolong death but to be able to enjoy our time on this earth.
@52 I had zero problems with health, no prescriptions. Now @67 I am old, old is joint pain, less strength, lack of concentration . Old is the loss of eye sight, hearing , agility, looks matter but not like most think. I doubt that life extension is going to work out. Over population problems would sky rocket. I imagine a few will make it . Then they will work to prevent others from living much longer . With age comes wisdom , wisdom is a two edge sword.
Any updates on this project? I haven’t heard about it in a while.
Darren, don't leave your reagents out of the fridge at room temp! Peptides degrade
what will happen if the grid goes down? is there a back up plan?
They are preserved in liquid nitrogen, with does not required energy to maintain the cold temperature, and it can be replenish by hand. A big reserve is in the back of the building. The electronics are to facilitate the monitoring process, like to watch appropriate levels of nitrogen, temperatures, have alarms...
Genial, ideas frescas e innovadoras..... Deberían hacer más documentales sobre silicón valley
If you want to live a very long and healthy life the answer is simple” Start eating healthy organic foods and exercise daily it’s that simple😁
At ~ 3:45 :'when the technologies will be available to revive us'; I'm seriously doubting that the heirs of those very rich people would be willing to revive them.'Yuppie, our parents are in 'stasis' now their fortune has passed to us'; then ring, ring:'This is the cryogenic center, your parents can be revived cos now they can be cured', and the heirs:'Burns them and you'll be richly rewarded, we don't want to hand them back our family fortune'.
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You are not flesh you are spirit
Even if you down loaded what you are
On some machine It would only represent what was you....
You never just appeared in this life time
You have been around forever and will
Continue to be...yes many fear death
That's normal and most avoid the subject however it's a turn of events that will
Occur try understanding instead of shunning it...or you will fall into the hands
Of these types in this film chasing a pipe
Dream
loved the movie "Death becomes her" (Meryl Steep and Goldie Hawn). These people remind me.....
I realize I've seen this, so peace out.
Darren Moore hit the nail on the head when he said "wouldn't it be nice to have the OPTION to extend life" -- Life is ALL about OPTIONS and choices, and no person should stop those options or choices of people like Darren, Liz, or the many MILLIONS of people like me who want to live for hundreds if not thousands of years...
Oh, my child is about to die. Should I call a doctor or choose a different option? Things are not so simple as you laid them out.
@10m18s - "Aubrey also invested the *16 Billion pound* inheritance from his mother" - dafuq?
it's millions.
it's still quite some money.
It doesn't go very far in biotech. That said, it's most of Aubrey's net worth, so he's certainly put his money where his mouth is.
Where is his mouth is... LOL
No one has seen it for decades!
That said, it's most of Aubrey's net worth, so he's certainly put his money where his mouth is.
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YR FUNNY comment
thought exactly the SAME
like
are his teeth NON EXISTANT
if so
WHY
with all his supposed wealth
A weirdo.............
Came from the future to see what was being said about this.
This is absolutely incredible I'm from the UK and this is my dream to work in a place like this and with incredible people. I am in ore right now. H xx
They are dead. Just chillin. If you freeze some one who is dead they are still dead. Wouldn't you have to freeze someone before they die? Also 5000 dollars for a pet? I love my dog but shit.
"I love my dog but shit." hahaha
In order to use stasis pods or teleportation devices you have to stop everything in your body from functioning on all levels heart, brain, nervous system everything that is moving, every cell. This is due to energy consumption which results in adaptation of the living cells to whichever state the cells are in, hense the term freezing unroll later. Notice how big those tanks were, at near absolute zero atoms themselves stop jiggling and decaying. It doesn't mean they are alive. Durring a heart transplant the body has to be suspended for a short period of time in order to complete the operation, this means death and revival. With time doctors found ways to do it easier so they think they can freeze things for later. Life or death is a definition of the beholder.
Yes nanobot swarm body #ForTheWin
It does sound kind of cool.
This is astonishing
I will do absolutely anything if given the chance to be immortal or close to it. I don’t care what it takes, I hate the thought that I will die one day.