Here's Why I Bought Toyota Camry (and NOT a Honda Accord)
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- If you're looking at a Toyota Camry vs a Honda Accord and wondering why you'd buy the Toyota or why you'd buy the Honda, you've come to the right video. I'm going to share why I found the Toyota Camry was the best car to buy for me and my family and why I left the Honda Accord on the shelf. You're going to learn all about these two cars as I go through a full review, a full quality experience, and a full comparison of these budget cars.
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"Life's too short to drive boring cars!!!!!!!" - picks a Toyota Camry. All jokes aside, Camry's are great daily drivers. I own Honda/Acura's with no issues other than regular maintenance. Been a Honda owner for over 20 years. Love both Honda and Toyota though.
They go forever on minimal cost
@@ECPP I had the Camry xle v6 and the engine has over 300 hp. It’s a rocket.
Best thing about a yota is it doesn't leak as often and ofc I wouldn't have to disassemble the whole damn car to change a bulb; but, it doesn't quite feel like a honda.
He's a TH-camr, he has tons of money. He said this was a daily driver. I assume his "Lifes too short cars" are in the garage. Comprende?
Hondas are good but Acura has more problems
I like Toyota Camry because it has 8 speed auto transmssion instead of CVT.
Excellent
Same
Way better than CVT's
The Camry has more powerful engines as well. Toyota uses port and direct injection. The Accord uses direct only which may cause carbon buildup.
Did he misspeak when he said his Camry has a CVT transmission or did I hear it wrong? I replayed that part 5 times and keep hearing him say his Camry is CVT.
I just brought the new Honda Accord EX 2023 at MSRP 31,160. The fact that I’m 6’4”” and felt my comfortable in the Honda. Both Honda and Toyota are great.
Lots of room indeed. Not all cars have that.
If that was new camry no way i love Honda interior comfort but camry deff better long term with 1.5 cvt no go.
Hey John , I'm looking to get an Accord 2021 or 2022 but I'm like 6ft tall and was confused whether I should go for a CRV just for comfort in long drives but I'm an Accord lover. Please give me some insights
Owner a 2002 Honda accord for 16 years 200 k miles , very minimal maintenance . That v6 was still the best engine I have had over all .
My dad has a 2000 accord 2.4 with a 100k on the odometer, mostly city driving. It obviously has a few issues here and there but it’s served him well for many years.
I plow through cars every 3/4 years and put thousands of miles on cars every Month doing gig apps or delivering pizza for the last 15 years
I miss that car had one too. Had her up to 135 mph
@@thaydathroeun8678 I took it to 140 it was sweet , I fell for the matrix and bought a new car. No I regret it .
The hose clamp failures on other brands is something no one ever talks about and it says a whole lot about the manufacturer if they can’t get something like that right.
YES, Toyota/Lexus uses the type shown in this video, they expand with pressure and don't fail like the slotted banded ones with a screw.
Thanks for the review. I just bought the same car, on order, in Mica Grey. Also did my own research on other models and this one won. Can't hardly wait for its delivery.
Great cars for sure.
@@ECPP lol my mom had a 2002 and 2008 camry they were probley less reliable than her 2012 chevy malibu lol which now has 196,000 miles on it.
I really like your presentations. Crisp and to the point. You come across loud and clear. Thanks
Congrats! I rented a Camry when my regular car was in the shop and I was so impressed with that car. It had a great inside room a huge trunk, a sporty drive and I too love the look of it. If Toyota made a Camry TRD with a 6-speed manual mated to that smooth-running V6 I would have to find a way to get one.
I hope they make v6 an option on LE. Come on man, we gotta get this affordbale dumb reliable v6 game up. Tbe 4 bangers are good you can get NA 2 liter and turbo engines in sedans but its hard to get a v6 in a base model.
Most informative. Thank you!
Hey Mark, great video! I was in the same boat when I purchased my '21 Camry SE (Non-AWD). I was cross shopping the accord and the camry just did more things 'right' for what I wanted.
Non CVT, mechanical gear shift and not electronic, mine came w turn key ignition which I prefer to push button, 2.5 cl4 cylinder larger engine than accords 1.5 turbo. Less stress and strain and doesn't work as hard especially with passengers. Love how toyota went bigger displacement 4cyl and just kept it naturally aspirated. Purchase price was also lower. Great on fuel, amazing handling and adequate tech made it the winner kn my books. (Although I do think the accord looks very nice and sporty). Lol
I totally agree the larger 4 cyl just makes up the gap on power and keeps it more dependable. Great approach
Hi Mark thanks for the great video. Any reason you didn't consider the hybrid?
Great update and comparison Mark 🇨🇦✌️
Thanks 👍
Have a 16:Accord with the 2.4 naturally aspirated. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned. Had 3 previous Camry’s too. Driving dynamics and overall usability surpasses the Camry across the board.
Thanks for sharing
That naturally aspirated engine is the one to get; unfortunately Honda has been turbocharging most of its 4-cylinder engines and the result of that is inferior long term reliability compared to their bulletproof non-turbo engines.
Accord's four Cylinder 2.4 Vti-L engine from 2007 to 2017 line up is the best 4 cylinder engine I have come across to date highly fuel efficient and Powerful as a V6...
@@cnovasalmanhussain2348 Agree. Turbos are much less reliable than the Regular engines.
Honda does steering better. They feel really really good to drive. Just wish honda would lean more into natrually aspirated 4 cylinders and 6 cylinders again like toyota. Once you start throwing on hybrid turbo small displacement yadda yadda, it will only cost more and more of a fortune to keep going and ultimately the longer they can stay out of the junkyard the better. No replacement for displacement. Why turbo when you shoulda known from the beggining you wanted more power and just gone with a little larger cylinder and kept tons of the reliability and simplicity that will help us keep these things going longer.
One thing to mention (Honda employee here) Toyotas tend to make up that base MSRP with non negotiable accessories vs Honda that has a set trim level and all the options that come on that trim level are set. So by the time you have comparable features you actually end up at about the same price. Just a small mention. When it comes down to functionality and styling it will vary driver to driver. Just depends on preference between these two cars to a degree. Both are excellent cars.
LE is the base model here in the states. I have a se and I love it. Proud of this car.
I have an SE as well for my wife we wish we had gotten the LE because it is much quieter on the road the SE with its sport tuned suspension is very loud with the road noise.
Have a 2016 Scion iM 6sp and I do have to say they make quality interiors these days, the plastics are definitely not as crappy as my old Chevy Cobalt. The cobalt treated me well for the 10 years I had it though
As a former Camry owner, I have to agree with most of the things you stated above Mark. Never had a more reliable vehicle in my life, except for my Corolla, Haha :) However You do have the option of getting a naturally aspired engine in a Honda too, I currently drive a Honda Accord Touring with a 2.4 L, Na Aspired engine and no major issues. Compared to my Camry it is more fun, way more. Road handling manners in the Honda is superb, Stability, low end torque, Seat comfort, roominess, safety, infotainment Sys, All there for your disposal. Have you ever driven the 2.0T Engine Accord? I have and it's got around 250 BHP. The new 2023 Accord looks way better too. I am not a big fan of the Camry's front bumper with all those fake vents. For me purely the enjoyment of driving is paramount and maybe not the new ones, but my Camry was the most boring car I ever owned.
My Camry is extremely boring, like myself lol
my Camry also left my mechanic bored.(traded in 4 a Lexus and he’s still bored).
I had 2017 camry before, it’s boring car, my Honda Odyssey is better performance than the camry, even it’s a minivan.
Toyota is still more reliable
Boring Hondas and wait until their trannys act up lol 😆 😂 🤣 I'd rather have lexus
I love my 2017 Honda Accord, no issues, great mileage, speed when I need it, I'm happy! It's my 3rd Honda, non- turbo
Mine is ten years older than yours and is a great car. I enjoy how it doesnt beep at me or flash lights every time someone is in my blind spot. I like how it doesnt vibrate me
@TheAnnoyingBoss That's great, I had a 2005 Accord coup 2.4 liter, had it for 12 years, still drove like new at 170k miles, before that I had a 2002 civic for 5 years, very speedy car, loved it too!
Honda stopped being cool after 2017
@lionking4035 I completely agree especially the Accords. Not sure what is the point of buying an accord after 2017, the Civics are almost the same size and you can still buy a 2.0 liter non turbo Civic sport
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. Have a great weekend.
Accord's four Cylinder 2.4 Vti-L engine from 2007 to 2017 line up is the best 4 cylinder engine I have come across to date highly fuel efficient and Powerful as a V6...
V6 smoother. Also better looking.
Love the channel
9th Gen 2.4L 6MT Accord owner here. Looking to replace it in a few years and I just don't think I can go with the 11th gen Accord for the reasons you stated. Not a fan ~AT ALL~ of CVTs and turbo, GDI engines. I think the days of a 300K mile+ Honda engine are behind us. Camry hits home with a conventional auto and a NA GDI engine with intake valve injector rinse tech. Winning combo for my money and future cross country road trips.
Too bad. You are doing yourself a disservice by ruling out the 10th Gen 2.0T Accord. Best car in its class by a mile. And if you search TH-cam there are a plenty 1.5T Hondas with the CVT that has gone over 300k miles
Listen bro my 2007 accord v6 has 175k miles and doesnt burn oil its really feels like its built to go 30 years if you take care of it. I think honda needs to become turbo phobic and compete with toyota with better 4 cylinders and v6s in better feeling cars. Theyve been doing small displacement turbos so long with cvts and when my 2007 accord has a v6 thats built to last and an automatic trans for 6k its hard to justify prices like 35k for a v6 camry and honda doesnt even have any engine configuration competing. Honda feels better to drive but my v6 hinda feels good to drive too. Toyota can putnthe v6 in the base LE model snd honda doesnt wven have a v6 to put in any models...
I can't really take advice from people who've never owned the car and believe everything the internet tells them.
Your content is amazing
Just purchased an “In Transit” 2024 Toyota Camry AWD XLE Black on Black Leather…Can’t wait til she gets here.
Wow sounds like a lovely spec
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I’m really, really excited about the next gen Camry. It looks so much better than any Camry before it. Only issue is that I gotta wait a year
Yes it’s a long wait for sure
I bought the Toyota Rav4 XLE Hybrid. The eCVT in the hybrid is bulletproof with no belt and nothing like a CVT transmission except for the name. Toyota has 26 years of experience with the hybrid, so they have it buttery smooth right now, and I can't really tell when the engine is off or on except if I look on the dash. There's no starter or alternator to wear out, and the hydraulic brakes last twice as long because most of the time you are using the regenerative braking. the high voltage cable was corroding in the 2019-2022 models, so I bought the 7 year warranty, since Toyota Canada didn't extend the warranty against this to the 2023 models. It's a $7000 repair, and even has the name "cablegate".
Just bought a 2023 Camry SE Night shade 2.5 liter! Upgrading from a 2000 Camry that still runs great! This new car has so many features compared to the 2000 Camry, WOW!
Great choice and super reliable
Congratulations for your Toyota Camry they are great cars I own a 2018 camry xse awd tow ton colder pearl white and black top roof I had nothing done to the car amazing quality just oil change almost six years of ownership and no issues Toyota is a reliable reliable product
Great comparison Mark. ...🇯🇵
Thank you very much
Hey Mark do you have winter tires on the Camry? Lots of snow in your part of the globe.
I have a focus st it’s a freaking 🚀 23mpg , 120k miles and runs like a clock. German engine and transmission. I got lucky 🍀 oh, and I just picked up a Toyota grand highlander. Very happy with it not a hybrid version.
Very nice!
I have been driving a 23 LE as a rental and I have to say that I like this car! It drives very smooth, has an excellent chassis, and the power out of the 2.5 feels more than adequate.
07 se with 144k on it. I want a 15 or 17 but the devil you know ......
I owned a 2003 Honda Accord and just bought a 2024 Toyota Camry for the same reasons you mentioned. I test drove both and liked the Accord more but the rating for the Accord in Consumer Reports was well below that of the Camry. I saw an article of the top 10 cars to buy in 2024 and 7 of the 10 were Toyotas including the Camry. The other thing was the Honda dealer refused to negotiate the sticker price and Toyota gave me $5000 off the sticker price with NO trade in. Much better deal.
I had a 2017 Accord Coupe 3.5 V6 Touring. Loved it and the J35 sounds beautiful
Good choice!
****As an OWNER of the Camry 2018 XSE (Manufactured in February) we did have Transmission failure. It took two and a half weeks to order and replace under warranty but they provided a newer year Highlander as Customer Service Car that was covered as well. It was VERY NICE to drive but not as economical and costs about a third more.
Around 100,000 miles but as early as 50,000 depending on driving conditions hwy/city time(s) you can expect to replace the Electric Water Pump ($45), you will get a trouble code pop up and the car will quickly go to overheat. Immediately find a place on the side of the road, put on your hazards, pop the hood, wait till either tow truck arrives or watch the overfill drop down in about a minute or two then go again, you may only get a mile before overheating again, rinse and repeat. I would advise most to call a tow, it's not worth burning up the engine. I work on cars a little as a expensive hobby.
On the, "Infotainment System" it's crap, there is no reason to have this garbage tarnishing the car and it's not like you can run out and grab another head unit like you use to be able to do.
Somethings are better left alone.
If you love your car, CHANGE YOUR OIL when you are supposed to! I hate seeing engine from oil starvation having to be replaced. I'm currently helping my wife's cousins husband to do an engine swap, to find out it has to have all gaskets and certain elements changed to validate the warranty in case it doesn't work out. Unless you just want to throw away $4k to $5k, change your oil.
If you have GM's 3.6 that are prone to timing chain issues, GET RID OF IT! Even at a loss you'll be ahead.
Back to the Camry, Even though it's a, "Sealed Transmission" CHANGE this FLUID. It's similar to changing the oil, but make sure the car is level, DO NOT do a FLUSH!
Thanks for sharing your experience as an owner and mechanic. I desperately need a car. If you were currently in the market for a new car in the midsize segment, which would you go with, knowing what you know now? Unfortunately, none of these cars are as good as they used to be, but I have to get something asap.
@@sherrikwhiteside6107 There are variables to every purchase. The Camry was planned for a long time to obtain in my wife's and I purchases.
We bought a used Corolla having kids and budget to consider with the desire to make the most with what little we had.
We still have that car today. It's just not driven. Our son is supposed to be driving but is not. It lacks the safety that we would prefer him to have.
We've also owned a Hyundai Sonata, in which I maintained and drove properly for the design to prevent coking up the valves.
An accident had taken the car, as well as our baby girl in her last year of high school. Most cars for rear passengers will not survive an accident in a 40 mph collision. They fail in that regard towards safety.
My wife refuses to buy or be part of Hyundai.
The vehicle(s) I consider are;
Toyota
Genesis
Hyundai
Kia
Subaru
Stay far away from CVT transmissions.
I'm not a fan of Hybrids, just more to go wrong.
If lack of money wasn't an issue, it would be a Bugatti, I love the engineering and challenges it brings to learn its maintenance. Uncertain as to insurance costs though.
Aspects to all wheel driving dependant on budget would likely be on the new Camry or Subaru.
With all due respect because I'm limited as to research in actual drive time and personal engagement, I would consult leading research materials such as Consumer Reports.
Check them out, I have always suggested their data and agree with their findings.
Consumer Reports- would be MY go to for the answer.
@@TexasBig thanks for the detailed and well articulated response. It was definitely helpful, and I’m sorry you and your wife had to experience something so tragic. I couldn’t imagine.
2020 2.0 Accord w/63k and zero issues to date. Still very fun to drive.
You get around man.
My 2003 Accord 2.4L automatic transmission has 400k miles it's still running like a new car!
I have a 2010 Accord 4 cyl 2.4 vtec, 450,000 kms on salted roads for half the year in Canada. I have never had an unusual repair. I still have the original exhaust.
I am big Toyota fan after doing crazy research I went with the 2021 honda because that car just got everything in them.
got a 21 camry...very nice car...the inside appear luxury .....and rides nice..no short wheel base suv
Did your Camry come with Eco, Normal and Sport mode? I don't see the buttons below the shifter like they are on other Camry's in this generation.
I'm looking at both for a daily. Leaning towards finding a used 2.0t with a manual. If i cant find one, next choice is a V6 camry. I'm expecting used prices to drop here in the US next month when student loan repayments start.
great review my brother but I'm still in love with my 2018 accord with the 2.0 turbo 6 SPEED MANUAL. if i could have one thing from the 2023 version into my 2018 will be the full screen cluster display, other than that there’s nothing else i would change about my car
2018 2.0 turbo automatic 106k no problems ❤it
@@pawelkilian3890 what a car huh ☺️ 🚗 ✨
Every time honda makes a v6 its a banger
If my 2002 Maxima ever dies I will either put a new motor in it or get this Camry. Good advice. Everytime I jump in a Camry Uber here in NY I ask the guys for the mileage. Usually the response is in the +150k-200k mile range. When I ask about repairs it is always tires, brakes and oil.
If forced to choose...I'd buy a last-generation Accord with the 2.0L turbo engine. 5.4 sec 0-60.
Yes that’s the Accord to have in recent years fornsure
I'd rather buy the 93 accord. Those things were tanks.
Striking looks too!
Bro I also bought camry se 2020 in black just a couple weeks ago loving it.
We have a 2023 Camry Hybrid and a had a 2021 prior to that, aside from dust intrusion they are great, we drive a fair bit of gravel road.
True that can happen sadly
I chose the 2022 Honda Accord Sports 2T and I am loving it.
Turbos are the mess up factor for any car.
And a turn off for many who want a car they can keep for longer a time
Cars without those Turbos will last 20-30-40 years easily
It ups power, and efficiency, and sometimes fuel efficiency but often shortens life.
A lot of people say Toyota is the best but I did my research and I went with the Matchbox VR9.
I bought a used 2018 camry SE i love to drive handle well on the road very comfortable easy to drive too and very handsome design but please compare the sell in the USA camry sold 295 000 units and the accord sold only 153 000 units thanks for sharing your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada
Thanks for sharing, cheers from Edmonton
If I were in USA now, I would definitely buy a CAMRY so that I can feel secure and confident to drive around highways and country roads and interstate long distance travelling.
I like accord for long distance because you go higher speeds and it feels really a lot better in the wide sweeping bank turns etc.
I have own a 2020 Camry SE for 2 years now and its a great car. But I've been wondering whether I should have gotten a RAV4 thinking that it would be better for a tall person to get in and out.
Great video! I was surprised that they went with a cvt for the Camry, my 2021 has an 8 speed automatic transmission. Personally I’m not a fan of it sometimes because when I get into 7th gear I feel hesitation sometimes when it goes into it. Also, has anyone noticed that it gives off a weird engine sound when parked idling? I feel it is due to the high pressure pump in the engine
That weird sound is the Direct Injection
Camry has a 8 speed no cvt ever the accord yes
And I have a 2018 Camry bd the engine is low the high pressure fuel pump low and direct nd port injection too
Yes nasty engine sound idle and has a SLOW acceleration from a stop, also HARD shifting from a stop. Might take it back.
Good choice! As daily beater it's hard to beat a Toyota.
Couldn't agree more!
I owned many Hondas over the years. They were awesome, bulletproof vehicles. Until the Oil dilution issues on the 1.5 Turbo engines. Honda screwed up with this engine. The CVTs also suck. I no longer own any Hondas. They have lost their way in building simple, bulletproof vehicles.
I agree things have changed
I think the Camry has port injection as well, so no worry about intake valve carbon build up.
Yeah but its sorta a lie because i think toyota shoulda gave up on that spot and stuck with only port injection and got rid of direct injection so you have freaking half the injectors bruh... talk about expensive. If you had less injectors to buy from the factory this thing would be more efficient on the wallet. Is the .25 mpg worth it? Unless there was a way to reliably do port and direct injection with the same injector. Injectors these days seem to be pretty reliable. They just go and go and go but still if you do end up needing new ones in 30 years its nice if there is 4 and not 8.
Great video I bought almost the same exact vehicle except my car has 2 wheel drive. 4WD or AWD is not really necessary in Dallas. Same color and wheels. My only complaint is the telephone numbers stowed in Home Screen somehow keeps getting deleted.
How are they in the snow?
I went with the 2021 Honda Accord 2.0t 10 speed. For me the 10th gen Accord is the second best looking Honda ever made (#1 NSX). Only thing I didn't like was no AWD available
Man its good but i want a war amongst naturally aspirated v6. I love how hondas drive but i like my old hondas v6 too much to gove it up for 4 banger hybrid or turbo etc.
My Camry I got in Hs I put over 80k miles on it and the times it was in the shop was to change the oil 😂 that’s why I’m sticking to what I know works and upgrading to the TRD now that I graduated college
I was just talking to a Honda owner who drives a CR-V, the oldest model with over 250,000 miles on the odometer. he said he only changes the oil and does some minor repair.
In my household we own either Acura’s or Lexus’s. Obviously they’re luxury brands of both parent companies Honda and toyota. I’ve driven and owned acuras all my life. They’re more sportier and more aggressive/ sporty with their design vs Toyota products. I definitely appreciate Toyota products though. Their cars are super comfortable.. from their cabin, down to how they drive. It’s really up to the consumer at the end of they day. Do they prefer comfort or something that’s a little more fun to drive? Me personally i need something sporty so I always choose Hondas vs the other members of my family where they choose a more comfortable drive. To each their own. You can’t go wrong with either brand.
My 2004 Toyota Camry, bought new, is still running great & hasn't had any major repairs!
My biggest reason for not purchasing a Honda, instead, is their very inferior paint jobs!
Over the years, I have seen older Honda's, having their entire car's body paint, fading badly,
making the vehicle look shabby! All new cars should be required to have at least a 10 year
'bumper to bumper' warranty, including the paint job, against fading or chipping!
Toyota/Lexus uses the hose clamp type shown in this video, they expand with pressure and don't fail like the slotted banded ones with a screw. I'm happy my 2002 Lexus ES300 which has the super reliable 1MZ 3.0L V6, so quiet and more than enough power. 174k miles and doesn't burn any oil between 5k synthetic oil changes (Pennzoil, full synthetic high mileage). These Turbo 4 cylinders will most likely have long term reliability issues. Great choice on the Camry, but Toyota not offering a V6 anymore is a huge mistake
I have a 2006 Lexus ES 330. I’ve never had one problem with that car. I think they were built better back than they are now and they certainly look better. My wife has an Avalon 2002 180,000 miles. Nothing goes wrong with that car as well in her idiots son has a BMW 330. Nothing is always breaking down third turbo charger on it as we speak.
@@billsheehy1 2002 through 2006
4th generation ES 300 are the highest quality Lexus has ever built along with the LS early gens. There is one on TH-cam same year as mine which had 590,000 highway miles on it with original engine and transmission. This was posted about three years ago. Best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve been driving over 40 years.
personally for a reliable every day people/grocery hauler you can't beat a Camry for the price though I've never ridden in an Accord or a Corolla sedan though I came home from the hospital as a newborn in a Toyota Corolla station wagon 38 years ago so I might be a bit biased my favorite American car in the segment is either a Chevrolet Malibu or a Buick Skylark though the later had previously been a larger boulevard cruiser type car
LE is the base model. LE,SE,XLE,XSE in that order and you can get any trim in AWD,V6 with no AWD option or hybrid in FWD or AWD.
How's the 8 speed? I've read they tend to have issues.
TCCN is a Toyota MT, ofc, but he had similar things to say about his own Camry. (He, too, has had MB.) "Life's too short to drive boring cars", also too short to be spent dealing w/car problems at the dealer service center. You can have the fun ones, sure, but no one can deny the Camry's a reliable backup or daily for the family. There's a reason most Ubers, taxis, etc. are Toyota or Honda, and if you get the drivers talking, they'll tell you how much they love them. This is when "boring" ie. no drama, is good.
As a rideshare and food delivery driver I agree, safty, reliability and economy is everything.
@@ariesmight6978 My family has been getting home newspaper delivery for decades. One brutal winter, I worried about how our carrier was faring as I imagined him in an old SUV. Then I woke up very early one morning when it was still dark, only to see him arrive in a fairly new RAV4, and I wasn't so worried anymore. But I was a bit envious!😂
What does TCCN mean?
@@mr.foxwiz1653 To lazy to Google search.
@@mr.foxwiz1653 The Car Care Nut, another channel here on YT.
My OCD is in overdrive looking at that mud inside front fender behind the tire, lol
I just found your video and wow! Preaching to the choir!!! Seriously, we have a 2020 Accord Touring (2.0 turbo, being discontinued) that is coming off lease in May. We first checked out the 2023 Accord (no Touring models available until June). Sat in a Sport Hybrid model (one level below our Touring), and wow, smaller space in the front driver's seat than the 2020 version? WTF? Turns out, the upgraded Accords are now Hybrids. The battery packs are located under floorboard behind the front seats. So, the seat tracks were reduced, making legroom for the 6'3" driver very cramped. Then we asked about trade in value for our 2020 Touring (remember, no more 2.0 liter turbo engines). Got a figure and left dealership. Heading to our local Toyota dealership and sat in the XLE Camry (again, 2023, comparing XLE to Touring). What a difference. Camry has more legroom for driver. Plus, we can get an AWD (not available in Accords). We factory ordered a 2023 Camry XLE AWD (no sunroof) to replace our 2020 Accord. Oh, and the Toyota dealership also has an out-of-state Honda dealership, so they can take care of our lease (no costs to turn in a Honda), PLUS they are offering $2000 MORE for our 2020 Accord over the Honda Dealership! No more Honda, now we're Camry "to be" owners. Oh, and my 2022 Hyundai is a great little SUV (Kona Limited), but the infotainment is worse after a software update.
Don’t forget the problems with the Honda Accord Forward Collision Warning System. My new 2022 kept panic stopping with no cars, trucks, people, dogs, shrubs, to the front or side of the car. The accelerator would not function even after the Accord was at a full stop. Even had the FCWS at lowest sensitivity. Honda has had recalls for FCW on earlier Accords. NTSB has 117 incidents where the 2022 Accords have stopped for no reason and experienced rear end collisions. Betcha Honda will have these Accords recalled for the faulty FCWs
As a owner of many models in both Honda and Toyota I keep my cars for long periods
Every Honda I’ve owned -2013 fit/02 civic and 09 civic automatics were 4 cyl engines non turbo had transmission issues around 120-140k miles with drain and fills (never flushed) every 40k miles at most. Ended up having the D (drive) light flashing randomly and had internal wear. The best Honda I had was my 1985 accord 5 speed cable clutch manual reached 450k miles on original trans and motor and sold running!
Each Toyota I’ve had- 2010 matrix- now 2008 Yaris-07 rav4 and 09 tocoma have passed 200k miles absolutely trouble free
Except for maybe a valve cover gasket and alternators .
Each were also automatic
I've also had many automatic Honda transmission problems from different Hondas. I refuse to buy any more Hondas with automatic transmissions ever and never buying any more Hybrid cars either. Had way better luck with Toyota brand regarding reliability.
You really can’t go wrong with Honda, Mazda, or Toyota. I was hoping for Hyundai and Kia to improve their quality but based on what I’ve read, that does not appear to be happening.
exactly
Im on my 4th Hyundai sonata they get better with every new model. Mines a turbo and it does good on gas. 10 year 100k warranty on drive train.
The Korean imports in my area are getting stolen by a group of thugs.
I had very very bad experience with two Mazda, so I wouldn't include it.
I currently have a Honda and a Toyota and it's crazy how this machines just keep going and don't ask for anything than the regular mantinance.
@@MeXiCoDeOrO
Was your Mazda ownership during their time with Ford?
Camry is the pinnacle of reliability, Great choice.
Thanks
Working on a V6 in a front-wheel drive is always a nightmare. In a front-wheel drive vehicle I'll take the naturally aspirated 4-cylinder every time. I can also do without the infotainment, the electric water pump, electric power steering if it has it, the CVT, and the all-wheel drive.
A lot of Toyotas are also using that dual fuel injection setup now which I would also avoid.
That is totally true
All the rich people in my area have these cars, I have a RWD IS350 and it’s the perfect daily.
Yes for sure
I guess it all comes to preference 🤷♂️ I personally don't like Toyota, had some problems with a couple of them. In the other hand Handa accord I love them all. I own a 2003 5 speed 2.4L just replace the spark plugs, going through my 3rd clutch, other than that just regular oil changes 280,000 and counting. 2020 Handa accord 2.0L turbo. For a 4 cylinders its a monster on the road love the looks of it. 😉👍🙋♂️
I'm a definite Camry lover; my 2010 is still a smooth and very reliable no-headache ride, and I love it so much for all the good memories it has given me. I plan to get a newer one once I get my money up - probably the SE upgrade model. Maybe I'll get an Accord someday, but for now, the exciting "boredom" of the Camry still has me hooked, lol.
They will literally run forever
I've owned my fair share of both Accords and Camrys and the Toyota will definitely outlast the Honda when it comes to automatic transmissions. The Honda has a very good probably of getting stolen too. Thieves desperately like to steal anything with Honda brand on them. I've personally had an Accord stolen parked outside my home and my 2005 Honda Odyssey van parked outside of a repair shop waiting in line for typical Honda automatic transmission rebuild and the thieves still stole it even though it was barely driveable due to it's failing transmission.
I have a 2024 se. bought off the lot. Cold weather package. I didn’t get push to start they only had keyed ignition Camrys. Its weird
the 10gen accord 2.0 sport destroys the camry in every way except reliability, and they're nearly neck n neck in that regard. the accord is sexy and desirable with an exotic flair to a fault, as they are stolen more than most cars causing you to lose sleep. it's rims are the most stolen on the market. i get lambo attention in the 10gen, especially outside of nyc.
I agree with you for this. Honda accord failed a big time cuz of turbo engine, it s not reliable. Turbo made engine too hot and had a short life. I think. 😢
Wow peak hp at 6600 and torque at 5000 for the camry! I never really go over 3000 rpm! Thats the main reason I went for the turbo accord over the camry when both came out in 2018. Plus I think the camy looks a lil to ricey for me. I like the cleaner fastback euro look the accord has.
Sounds like you made a good/well educated purchase.
I really believe so
How do you all deal with the bouncy pounce feel if the Camry suspension while driving? It makes me uncomfortable. Been a Honda/Acura owner for the last 20 years and never had that issue. Should I go back to Honda? Please help…
Wait until honda gives us a 2.5L 4 cylinder and 3.5L v6 and competes eith camry fr fr snd starts driving these costs down when they cut deals to do stuff like use the same bolt in that one spot so the parts market is even broader.
How’s the Camry compare to a 2021 Chrysler 300s 3.6 I was looking at some Camrys but the interior styling and screen looks so cheap
I have to disagree, ive owned a honda accord for 2 years now, pushing 79k miles never had an isssues. Mines has a cvt, and i haven't experienced any faults or delays in it, they arent meant to be pushed hard.
Thanks for sharing
My 2020 Camry has the same engine which is the very advanced "Dynamic Force" 2.5. It is very energy efficient and "no turbo."
Congrats, you made the perfect choice.
Thank you!
I would pay now just $1200 to $1500 more for the Accord Hybrid or the Camry Hybrid. They are saving gas and very reliable. Honda will have a naturally 2L non-turbo engine and zero transmission. It just has a clutch at 40 MPH to engage the engine. The E-CVT for Camry is also very good and a no brainer upgrade from the gas only version.
I have the Camry Hybrid XLE and it does wonders! Also very smooth.
Hybrid adds unnecessary complexity for marginal MPG gains. Going from high 30's MPG to high 40;s isn't worth the risk to me.
@@brentharrington9235 Definitely understandable. Would you ever show up to the airport and get on an airline with a single engine?
@@brentharrington9235 i agree. There is some trade offs though like usually they get rid of stuff like serpintine belts and the ecvt are not those trash band kinds but they are just gears. So in some aspects theyre actuually more reliable. Up until you need a battery or have to go into the engine too much... then it costs a fortune compared to s simple NA 4 banger or v6
@@Jack-pd4psit is a car, not a plane. Big difference!😊
My priority is price and reliability. Both are reliable. Accord sticker price is a few thousand higher. Accords have bigger screens but I prefer buttons and don't watch movies in my car. Ventilated seats would be nice but at what price? Which dealership will give me a hard time with negotiations and markups? Time is money too.
They are great cars and might be worth it
My 1999 Corolla 4dr sdn CE still alive 392 000 miles .. need a new car
That’s a great run
6:15 The auto is a regular 8-speed, not a CVT.
Consumer Reports placing BMW third?..over Honda and Mazda? SMH
Good car with affordable price , greeting from Surabaya Indonesia
PTL. Why did Toyota go to CVT? Do theirs use a belt like the others? What is the reliability quotient? PTL
great review. I personally would have washed my car before making a video on it loll
Thanks for watxhing
What about all the rust issues with Japanese cars
funny thing is, on the highway a couple days ago i saw a hyundai burning on the shoulder